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Gnome 2.0 RC2 Asks For Abuse

timothy posted more than 12 years ago | from the or-forever-hold-your-peace dept.

GNOME 214

A nameless reader submits: "The GNOME Desktop 2.0 release candidate 2 has been released! Gnome 2.0 should be coming out soon! The release notes have some good information."

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Re:shitfuckcunt! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3751939)

Right on! Fuck Linux and all users of Linux.

So says I, as I curse my burner for taking 20 minutes to burn valhalla RedHat-7.3 iso # 2.

I suck!

Re:shitfuckcunt! (0, Offtopic)

d2002xx (586197) | more than 12 years ago | (#3752031)

Why?

FP! (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3751843)

Yay!

You missed AC fag but munching ass eater (-1)

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Release dates (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3751845)

Pity they did't make the schedules release date...

Crime? (5, Funny)

KnightNavro (585943) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751847)

Isn't Gnome abuse a felony in most states?

Re:Crime? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3751875)

Isn't Gnome abuse a felony in most states?

If it were, then the authors of Red Hat's Gnome implementation would have been arrested by now,

Re:Crime? (1)

casings (257363) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751880)

If not it should be. ;D

Re:Crime? (1)

(outer-limits) (309835) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751962)

Read in the paper [216.239.51.100] today that falling asleep in a coutroom is.

Asking for it (4, Funny)

commodoresloat (172735) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751992)

I just can't believe the title. Gnome asks for abuse. Can you believe it? Blaming the victim, as usual. Fscking patriarchy....

dadscat!!!! (-1)

on by (572414) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751848)

"I'm a man!" I groaned. "I've been fucked by a man's cock! I'm not a boy anymore!"

I scooped Dad's and Uncle Brian's shit into my hands and smeared my body with their warm filth. Lying on the floor of the basement, wallowing in the waste of these two men, I gazed up at the candles. They flickered silently. I lay at the foot of the cross as upon an altar where I was the victim being offered up to the God of raunch!

Dad and Uncle Brian held me in their arms. Our filthy, smelly bodies rubbing against one another. My cock stirred and jerked upward within the confines of the leather jockstrap. I reached down and pulled it free, stroking it with my shit fillled hand.

The warmth of manturd on my cock, the stench that wafted into my nostrils made my body tremble and my asshole, my dirty asshole, quivered at the sensation it had just felt for the very first time!

My tight boy hole was no longer virgin territory. My father had filled me with his manhood and his seed. I belonged to him now in a special way.

Reaching up to my Dad, I grasped the back of his neck with my shitty hand and drew his lips towards mine.

"Am I a man now, Dad?" I whispered, as his lips grazed mine.

"Yes, my son!" he answered, softly. "You are now a man!"

Uncle Brian slid down, trailing wet kisses along my filth covered body. Closer and closer he slid his mouth towards my hard cock.

"Mmmmmmmmmmmm!" I moaned, as he took my raunchy dick into his mouth and sucked. "Yeah! Suck my dirty dick, Uncle Brian! Fuckin' suck your
shit off my dick!"

I squirmed, thrusting my hips upwards, sinking my cock deep within my Uncle's mouth.

As he sucked on my dick, he reached up and to his left, ramming his fingers up his brother's asshole!

"Aaaaaahhhhhh!" Dad groaned, welcoming this intrusion. "Fuck! Give it to me Brian. Fist my shitty hole!"

Slowly, Dad got up on all fours. He positioned himself over me, his cock hanging over my mouth.

"My fuckhole is so hungry, Brian! I need your fist up my ass!"

Uncle Brian took his mouth off of my dick and knelt between my outstreatched legs and Dad's upturned ass. He worked several fingers in and out of Dad's asshole. The pasty goo oozing out of Dad's shithole
served as lube as Uncle Brian inserted all five of his fingers in Dad's
butthole!

"Fuck yeah! Give it to me, little brother! More!" Dad groaned,
pushing his hairy ass back onto Uncle Brian's disappearing fingers.
The knuckles penetrated. Dad maoned out loud and reached for the bottle
of Rush.

I could hear him inhaling the vapors from the bottle deeply. I sucked
his cock into my mouth.

"Ah fuck!" Dad cried out, as my head jerked upward to swallow his
semi-hard cock and Uncle Brian's hand sunk into Dad's gaping, hungry
hole!

"How's that feel, brother?"

"Fuckin' wonderful, Brian! Fuck me! Punch my ass, little brother!"

Uncle Brian scooped some of the shit from my body and coated his arm
with it. Sighing with animal lust he began fucking Dad's ass with his
fist.

"More! More!" Dad grunted, pushing his ass back taking more of Uncle Brian's arm up his ass. "Find something up there you like, Brian?"

"I feel shit, Chris!" Uncle Brian yelled, "I can feel your fuckin' butt slop!"

"Yeah! Dig for shit, little brother! Dig for my stinking shit! That's your playground, Brian! Give it to me, fucker! Punch my dirty ass!"

Uncle Brian pistoned his fist in and out of Dad's ass. When he withdrew his hand completely I could feel Dad's warm shit oozing out of his
asshole onto my dick. I sucked his cock harder.

"Yeah! You fuckiin' cocksucker! Suck my dick, Philip! Suck it while your Uncle fists my shitty asshole!"

"Fuckin' shit pigs!" Uncle Brian shouted. "We're fuckin' dirty pigs!"

"Fist my raunchy ass, Brian! Shove your fuckin' arm up my dirty ass!"

Uncle Brian lunged forward. Dad's greedy hole swallowed his brother's arm up to the elbow!

"Yes! Yes! You fuckin' bitch! Pound my ass, Brian! Suck my fuckin' dick, Philip! Don't stop! Please don't stop, the both of you! Aaaaaahhhhhh! Fuck!"

Uncle Brian and I worked in unison giving pleasure to Dad. The one fisting; the other sucking; Dad moaning in ecstacy.

"Need more!" Dad yelled. "I wanna feel Philip's fist up my ass with yours too!"

I gasped as Dad pulled his dick out of my mouth.

"Get back there with your Uncle, Philip, and shove your fist up my hungry asshole! I want you both at the same time!"

I wiggled myself from beneath my Dad and knelt beside my Uncle Brian whose arm was embedded in his brother's shithole.

"There's some crisco in the toy bag, Philip. Lube your hand up with it."

I retrieved the can and proceded to grease up my hand and forearm.

"Are you ready, Philip?"

"Oh yeah!" I hissed as Uncle Brian retracted his arm to his wrist.

"Fuck me, guys!" Dad hollered, "I wanna feel the both of you up my ass digging for shit!"

"Slide your fingers up your Dad's ass, one at a time, Philip. Do it slow. Take your time. When you're all the way in, hold my hand!"

I did as I was told. One finger at a time.

"Fuck! Fuck!" Dad yelled. "Give it to me, son!"

Slowly, my hand disappeared into the gaping, dirty hole. My hand slid alongside that of my Uncle's and he curled his fingers around mine.

"Ah shit!" Dad let out a loud gasp. He looked back at us, his eyes glazed with lust. "Fucking pigs!" he screamed. "Fuck me! Fist fuck my shitty ass!"

In tandem, Uncle Brian and I pumped our fists deeper and deeper into the willing, hungry asshole. As we fisted Dad's ass, Uncle Brian kissed me deeply. Our mouths greedily sucking each other's tongues as our fists punched away in the sewer of my Dad's filthy butthole.

"Aaaaaahhhhhh! Yeeeeessssss! Yeah! Pound my motherfuckin' dirty ass! Fuck me! Dig the shit outta my ass, you fuckin' sluts! Fuckin' pigs!"

As I gazed upwards, the candles flickered softly, casting their glow upon the cross which the three of us, eerily were kneeling before. Together, we were upon the altar of Raunch. A new sacrificial lamb was being offered up to the God of Shit!

I clasped my Uncle Brian's huge, uncut cock in my free hand and began stroking.

"Jack me off, Philip! Make me cum!"

I pull and pull on his cock, milking the pre-cum from his pisshole. He
reaches for my dick and returns the favor. Stroke for stroke, we
masturbate one another as we bury our fists up Dad's filthy asshole.

A million shocks of pleausure envelope my body. I'm tingling all over.
So much has happened to me tonight. So many new discoveries. Pain with
pleasure. Pleasure with pain!

The journey that began several months ago has opened up for me a whole
new world that I embrace willingly.

"Yes! Yes! Jack me off too, Uncle Brian! I wanna cum again!"

Together, the three of us pull on cocks. We are untied, bound together
in a very special union.

"Fuck! Fuck!" we gasp in unison, "I'm gonna fuckin' shoot!"

Our bodies heave and tremble. Dad impales himself more deeply upon mine
and Uncle Brian's fists as he ejaculates upon the floor.

One by one. One right after another, our cocks explode sending ropes of
cum flying in the air.

As Uncle Brian and I retract our hands from Dad's ass, a slurping sound
is heard. His puckering bud flares and a foul smelling fart hisses from
his fisted hole. It's stink fills my nostrils as I collapse onto him,
my mouth at his asshole. Sucking. Nursing at the brown shit log he's
pushing out of his asshole into my mouth.

I tumble onto the floor, my mouth filled with Dad's shit. Uncle Brian
collapses beside me and kisses me deeply. A sloppy, slurping shit kiss.
Dad too, crashes to the floor, panting heavily in the aftermath of his
orgasm. He moans and releases a flow of warm piss that streams its way
towards Uncle Brian and I.

I am in heaven! The journey of a boy to manhood is completed.

Epilogue

January 1, 2000

It's cold outside. The wind is whipping snow against the window. I'm
making this enty into my journal sitting on a rim seat gazing at the
falling snow.

Dad is under the rim seat receiving my morning dump, the way he always
does, in his hungry mouth!

As for Uncle Brian. He lives here with Dad and I now. He's our lover.
We're each other's lovers. Strange isn't it, how things come about?

As Dad feeds from my asshole, Uncle Brian is sucking on my pissing cock.
Outside, the snow is swirling. Everything is beautiful. What more
could a sixteen-year-old teenage boy ask for?
You tell me!

hi mom! (-1)

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Re:hi mom! (-1)

diaper_tales (575224) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751869)

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Re:hi mom! (1)

d2002xx (586197) | more than 12 years ago | (#3752038)

Where do the guys come from? They seem to have burned brains.

Does anyone know... (1)

neo8750 (566137) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751851)

when the final version will be released? I'm looking forward to trying it.

Re:Does anyone know... (5, Informative)

Ami Ganguli (921) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751900)

I don't have any inside information, but if you look here [gnome.org] you can see that they've added an unscheduled release candidate and they had planned two weeks between the last release candidate and going gold.

Assuming we don't get another release candidate (which I think is a good bet - I'm running the nightlies and they feel solid) that places 2.0 around July 7.

Re:Does anyone know... (-1, Redundant)

DeezyChee (587489) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751915)

I've been playing with Gnome 2 for a while now, and I must admit it is starting to feel like a stable release.

There are a few things that I have mixed feelings about though. The default WM is switching to Metacity, which doesn't have the power and configurability of Sawfish, and that is symptomatic of the general reduction in configurability.

Someone, somewhere has decided that configurability === complexity, and that a bewildering array of choices is too many for a newbie. This appears to have been translated into a general 'dumbing down' of the interface.

I can no longer tell Sawfish to remember my window sizes. The Gnome Panel can no longer swallow applications, so all of those WM applets are now useless to me. I can't run the Afterstep clock applet!

I guess it is the applications job to remember what window size I last used, and to remember it without me telling the WM to do so, but they don't - not even Nautilus2 remembers it's window sizes - every time it opens a new window which is slightly less than 1/4 of my screen size.

Overall, this is probably a good thing. People should be writing their applications to remember UI things, and having the WM remember those probably makes them lazy, but I can see a bit of pain in my future with Gnome 2, until these issues are solved and Gnome 3 is released, perhaps.

At least Gnome 2 does seem somewhat snappier than Gnome 1.4, and the styling is better, especially with anti-aliasing available throughout.

No, I think I liked it better the first time. (2)

Inoshiro (71693) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751964)

When this comment was written by Karora [slashdot.org] .

Moderators of the above comment (+1 style): YHBT. YHL. HTH. HAND.

Re:No, I think I liked it better the first time. (1)

forged (206127) | more than 12 years ago | (#3752054)

AYBABTU [google.com] ?

Re:Does anyone know... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3751925)

As always, if you want to give the latest Gnome a whirl without messing up your existing system, try Garnome [gnome.org]
It takes a while to build (about an hour on my 1.0 GHz PIII), but it doesn't touch your existing install - everything goes into ~/garnome.

Gimme icaza (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3751854)

gimme icaza and i'll show you some abusive kid

gentoo Rulez! (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3751855)


Hmmm, emerge gnome....

Yeah, we love you spider ! ;-)

Re:gentoo Rulez! (-1)

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The_Messenger (110966) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751862)

Wow. When you see an article like this, it makes you glad to be alive in an era when such technology exists. My question is, how do think this will affect the Open Source community?

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GPL Troll (586731) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751863)

Windows 2000: A reliable comprehensive and integrated operating system platform delivering seamless interoperability, scalability, and performance, and broad application support.

Windows 2000 Linux
Seamless integration into heterogeneous environments
Windows 2000-based server appliances deliver seamless integration and interoperability with Windows, UNIX, and heterogeneous networks. For example:
Built-in support for Single Sign-On (SSO), which allows end users access to all authorized network resources with a single authentication.
Support for both CIFS and NFS in an integrated fashion, easily enabling interoperability between UNIX and Windows-based networks.
Integrated support for Windows NT®, FTP, HTTP, Appletalk, and Novell environments, which enables consolidated administration in heterogeneous networks.
Via Winsock and other programming interfaces, both Windows and non-Windows-based clients or servers can seamlessly access a Windows 2000 Server-based network attached storage (NAS) server appliance.
Linux does not deliver comparable heterogeneous interoperability. For example:
No support for SSO, thus requiring end users to use at least two logon names and passwords--one for Windows and one for Linux/UNIX.
Support for CIFS but only via Samba, not as an integrated, tested solution. Linux/Samba requires additional components and integration work by the OEM to match the integration built into Windows 2000. Thus, the OEM must focus resources on development, integration, testing, and ongoing maintenance of the operating system, increasing development cost and slowing time-to-market.
Aside from compatibility issues with Windows 2000, Samba has known backwards compatibility issues as well as compatibility issues with the underlying Linux operating system. For example, file system quota interfaces have diverged in different versions of Linux 2.4x kernels, which means Samba will work properly on some Linux distributions but not others. This potentially ties the OEM to a particular Linux vendor's distribution and its support programs. Given the recent cutbacks and layoffs at many commercial Linux vendors, including Red Hat's recent 17 percent reduction in it workforce, it is questionable whether commercial Linux vendors will be around to provide support in the long term, thus increasing the business risk to the OEM.

Server appliances built with Windows 2000 integrate seamlessly into Active DirectoryTM network environments. Without any extra administrative tasks, Active Directory creates a two-way, trust relationship between domains, providing single authentication and easier access to information and resources across multiple domains throughout an organization.

Linux does not support trust relationships across domains or forests and thus cannot act as a trusted element in Novell Directory Service and Windows NT Domain-based networks. This makes it difficult to integrate Linux-based server appliances into such heterogeneous network environments.

Windows 2000 Linux
Industry-leading scalability and performance
Windows 2000-based server appliances deliver industry-leading robustness and scalability with Symmetrical Multiprocessing (SMP) support for up to eight processors and advanced features such as asynchronous and specialized I/O, hot-fix support, and hierarchical storage management. Linux provides support for SMP but supports only synchronous I/O, which introduces contention and thus limits SMP scalability. Furthermore, Linux offers no support for hot fixes and does not have a hierarchical storage management capability.
Server appliances built with Windows 2000 provide native, integrated, mature support for Network Load Balancing (NLB) and clustering (failover). Windows 2000 Advanced Server supports load balancing clusters of up to 32, enabling Windows 2000 Server-based server appliances to scale out to meet peak demand requirements. Furthermore, Windows 2000 Server ships with a file replication service and full support for content deployment and replication for Web farms is provided via Microsoft Application Server. Linux offers both free and commercially available add-on clustering and load balancing solutions. However, these add-on clustering solutions come from various sources, do not conform to any set standards, and are often implemented on a particular Linux distribution. This can tie the OEM to a particular, potentially financially unstable Linux vendor and its support programs, or force the OEM to maintain specific and expensive expertise in-house for self-support. Furthermore, clustering solutions are new to Linux, lack some key features, and documentation can be insufficient. For example, Red Hat's High Availability Server is a customized distribution of Red Hat Linux version 6.2 with Red Hat's Piranha clustering package. In its review of the product, ZDNet noted: "Offices without Linux gurus on staff should seriously consider buying Red Hat's service package, especially because the documentation included with the software does not describe how to implement the product with any operating system other than Red Hat Linux 6.2". ZDNet also noted that Red Hat's High Availability Server also "lacks content replication support", a critical feature for Web server appliances in Web farms. The OEM would need to source or build and then integrate and test these technologies itself to build a comprehensive solution. Taken together, these limitations make building and maintaining a clustering solution on Linux a challenge for the OEM and can increase both cost and time-to-market.
Server appliances built on Windows 2000 perform better versus Linux on similar equipment in SPECweb tests. A SPECweb99 study found that a Windows 2000 Web server could process more requests and serve more users than a similarly configured computer running Linux. The Windows 2000-based server with Internet Information Server (IIS) 5.0 handled 707 concurrent connections, compared to 545 connections for the Linux-based.

Windows 2000 Linux
Comprehensive application support
Windows 2000 delivers native support for Active Server Pages (ASP), giving direct access to the IIS transaction engine kernel. Furthermore, server appliances built with Windows 2000 also provide out-of-the-box support for ASP .NET, a rich and very robust framework for creating ASP application code. ASP .NET is a compiled .NET-enabled environment, offering developers the ability to build enterprise-class Web applications in any .NET compatible language including Visual Basic, C#, and JScript. Linux offers support for ASP but it is non-native and requires an add-on program to Apache or some other Web server deployed on Linux. This means incremental engineering and development effort by the OEM, further impacting cost of development and time-to-market. Linux does not support ASP .NET.
Server appliances built on Windows 2000 deliver comprehensive application support with an integrated component model for distributed or Web-based applications; multimedia services; and built-in message queuing for asynchronous communications, integrated application integration, and transaction-processing.

Linux has no available framework for developing distributed or Web-based applications and no integrated implementation of COM, DCOM, Enterprise Java Beans (EJB), and no integrated transaction-processing monitor or queuing system. This means the OEM has to source or build this functionality, resulting in extra development, higher cost, and a longer time-to-market.

Windows 2000 Linux
Proven reliability with enhanced recovery and data protection
Windows 2000-based server appliances provide advanced reliability features including a mature, well-tested journaling file system (JFS), which enables easy, dependable file system recovery and ensures no loss of data in the event of unscheduled downtime. Windows 2000 also offers support for Plug and Play, hot-swapping and kernel mode write protection. Windows 2000 also provides system file protection and Windows File Protection, which help speed recovery in case of failure, without any user interaction. Linux now has over five options for a JFS. All of these are new to Linux and the depth of integration and regression testing can be scattered and the number of real-world implementations limited. The OEM will need to verify for itself the integration, depth of testing, and in-field results. With Linux, the OEM will have to take on the extra integration work to incorporate an add-in JFS or opt for a vendor-specific Linux distribution such as Red Hat, tying the OEM to that vendor for ongoing upgrades, support, and maintenance at an extra cost. Furthermore, Linux offers only limited support for Plug and Play, no kernel mode protection, and no functionality equivalent to Windows File Protection--significantly increasing difficulty and time when recovering from a failure.
Windows 2000 Server is a completely integrated, extensively tested operating system with built-in support for an array of protocols and drivers, as well as advanced technologies including Internet Information Services (IIS), clustering, Network Load Balancing (NLB), Windows Management Infrastructure (WMI) and the Active Directory (AD) service. In addition, Microsoft uses powerful stress testing and integration testing with teams of dedicated test engineers to ensure system integrity and that solutions work across multiple features. Linux distributions are a collection of technologies from multiple sources that lack true integration. Some commercial Linux vendors may provide setup scripts that allow certain blocks of code to load in proper sequence but this is not true integration and does not provide a comprehensively tested solution. Furthermore, given financial and resource constraints, commercial Linux vendors often lack the means to employ comprehensive and extensive hardware and driver testing, trusting open source participants to test on their behalf or leaving the OEM to do the test and quality assurance work, thus increasing the OEM's cost and time-to-market.
Windows 2000 provides support for advanced reliability features, including volume management, which lets storage capacity be transparently extended without interrupting existing services, and volume spanning, which enables more efficient use of multiple-disk systems. In addition, Windows 2000 provides extensive, mature support for both software and hardware RAID. Windows 2000 supports thousands of RAID installations worldwide and the Microsoft Hardware Compatibility List for Windows 2000 lists hundreds of tested and certified drivers for RAID storage arrays, controllers, and systems. Some Linux distributions do ship with Logical Volume Management (LVM), but these implementations are new to Linux and require extra tuning by the OEM, thus increasing development costs and time-to-market. Linux does offer software RAID support but hardware RAID support is less comprehensive than Windows 2000. For example, Red Hat's Hardware Compatibility List has only two RAID storage/device controller certified drivers and Mandrake's Hardware Compatibility List notes only three certified RAID storage adapters.
Driver signing in Windows 2000 offers OEMs the assurance that all drivers originate from a trusted source that has undertaken extensive testing and certification. Also, Windows 2000 enables OEMs to utilize standard, widely available hardware along with thousands of tested, certified drivers to build a server appliance.

Driver availability and certification can be inconsistent in Linux. Many of the drivers available for Linux have received little if any testing and are offered as non-supported drivers both from the open source participants and from commercial Linux vendors. For example, Red Hat's most current Hardware Compatibility List has less than 100 certified drivers and most of those listed are complete systems, not hardware components or peripherals.

The Microsoft Server Appliance Kit (SAK) provides OEMs with a comprehensive, powerful tool to build server appliances quickly and get to market sooner.

Microsoft Server Appliance Kit Linux
Faster time-to-market via powerful tools and extensive framework
The Microsoft Server Appliance Kit (SAK) provides a comprehensive, powerful toolkit to help an OEM build server appliances quickly and easily. This allows the OEM to focus its resources on adding value, rather than building an operating system from multiple components and add-on pieces. The SAK also provides powerful tools that include:
Powerful Web User Interface (UI) for remote management of headless appliances
Framework for supporting a local UI (LCD or LED), desirable on some server appliance implementations
NAS-specific tools in the Web UI that enable the creation and management of shares for Windows, UNIX, Appletalk, Novell, FTP, and Web, as well as the creation and management of folders
A Multiple Device Manager, available now at no extra cost, which enables an administrator to manage over 100 appliances from a single console
Linux offers no standard toolkit for the development of server appliances. An OEM must invest in third-party tools at extra cost as well as in-house development resources to get the kind of toolkit functionality delivered by the Microsoft SAK. For example:
Netmax offers Internet Server Management Suite software for remote Web-based and multiple device management for $139 per-server.
Various Multiple Device Management solutions are available from open source participants, but these require extra integration and engineering work by the OEM. In addition, open source components are often licensed under the GNU General Public License (GPL), which may expose the OEM's intellectual property and source code to open source participants and its competitors.

The SAK includes an extensible reliability framework that includes watchdog timers, basic input/output system (BIOS) failover, automatic mirroring, and an appliance monitor service for excellent reliability and data protection.

Linux offers no reliability framework to enhance system reliability. An OEM must source this functionality from third parties at an extra cost or develop it in-house, thus increasing development cost and time-to-market.

Microsoft Server Appliance Kit Linux
Ease of integration, deployment, and administration in a more secure environment
Native support for Active Directory (AD) enables server appliances built with Windows 2000 to integrate seamlessly into a Windows enterprise network.
Active Directory provides additional remote management for appliances in addition to the Web UI and automates major portions of deployment by defining directory-based policy to each class of Windows 2000 server appliance.
For alternative method of server appliance management, Windows 2000 supports extensive scripting via Windows Management Instrumentation and Microsoft Terminal Services.
Linux-based server appliances can be inserted into Active Directory environments, appearing as Windows NT 4.0 member servers, but, again, only when integrated with Samba 2.2 or higher, thus requiring the OEM to do extra development, integration, and testing work. Linux-based server appliances do not deliver equivalent functionality in an Active Directory environment, as Samba uses the Windows NT 4.0 SAM Application Programming Interface (API) and Remote Procedure Calls (RPCs) to obtain account information from Active Directory. This implementation means server appliances built with Linux/Samba cannot support publishing their share information to Active Directory network.
Server appliances built with Windows 2000 offer enterprise-level security with integrated support for Kerberos version 5.0, NTLM v2 authentication and a fast Secure Sockets Layer (SSL) server for data encryption over the Internet.
Microsoft invests in and compensates both internal and third-party resources dedicated to rigorous security-specific testing to find and fix security issues quickly. For example, Microsoft has spent significant resources in building, enhancing, and applying automated tools that detect suspected buffer overruns in our code. Furthermore, as a leader in the software industry, Microsoft recently announced a broad, industry-wide effort around software security.
Linux uses clear text for authentication, does not allow the configurations of individual permissions to the file level and does native support standard encryption technologies such as Kerberos version 5.0. Kerberos is only supported on Linux as an add-on solution and is not integrated into the operating system, thus requiring extra development time and cost for the OEM. In addition, Linux/Samba delivers only NTLM v1 support.
Linux vendors and open source participants rely heavily on source access, taking it on faith that the "many eyes" of open source developers equal a more secure operating system. Recently, a TechRepublic article comparing security between Windows and Linux reported that up to its publication date in the autumn of 2001, Windows had 24 reported security vulnerabilities. In comparison, Red Hat Linux had 28 vulnerabilities. When you consider the difference in the size of the installed base of Windows 2000 to Red Hat Linux, the percentages indicate a higher degree of security vulnerabilities for Linux.

Microsoft Server Appliance Kit Linux
Better business alignment with straightforward licensing and clarity of intellectual property ownership
The Microsoft licensing model does not contain licensing provisions that require an OEM, and potentially its licensees, to disclose the source code for its intellectual property in a widespread fashion to open source participants. An OEM building a server appliance with Windows 2000 Server operating systems and the SAK has the assurance the software code and added value it develops remain the OEM's intellectual property. To ensure proper management of its intellectual property rights, an OEM must carefully examine an array of licensing complexities around the General Public License (GPL) that govern Linux. These complexities have resulted in embedded and dedicated operating system companies such as Wind River saying that they are seeing "a growing problem due to the growing uncertainty of using GPL-based code in embedded devices". An example of this risk can be taken from NVIDIA. An NVIDIA programmer, in the course of developing a driver for one of its products, used a portion of code from a freely available video driver. The developer failed to realize the code was licensed under the GPL and would therefore require NVIDIA to release the source code for its entire driver. Because NVIDIA did not want to release the source code to its commercial software, the company incurred substantial cost to develop a new driver that did not contain the GPL code.

Companies need to recognize that in embedded and dedicated devices, such as server appliances, significant gray areas exist in the implications of the GPL's terms. Some forms of code linking and commingling may or may not trigger legal obligations under the GPL. As Michael Scott and Michael Krieger, a lawyer and computer science professor respectively, recently wrote, "Rare is the month when a lawyer who specializes in technology does not have a new client asking for help in untangling an open source code problem".

Joke? (1)

d2002xx (586197) | more than 12 years ago | (#3752050)

Is it an joke? I thinks it's not like an ad. The guy who wrote the comment seems to know nothing about computer.

RC code name (5, Informative)

joeykiller (119489) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751870)

For those of you who don't understand swedish too well: This release's code name, "Glad Midsommar", means "Happy midsummer". The swedes love a good mid summer party.

Re:RC code name (-1)

The_Messenger (110966) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751886)

Here's what I think of your stupid fucking Swedes: Zee Svedes ere-a muruns vhu shuoold be-a keelled. Bork bork bork! Zeey du nut deserfe-a tu leefe-a! Deet tu zee Svedes, I sey!

Re:RC code name (2)

Per Wigren (5315) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751920)

The swedes love a good mid summer party.

Yupp, I'm still having a hangover.. :)

Re:RC code name (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3751975)

..So do we Finnish people! And we consume more alcohol than you Swedish fellas as we celebrate the Midsummer Day ;)

Re:RC code name (2)

rasjani (97395) | more than 12 years ago | (#3752058)

Its not just Swedish, its all scandinavians like finns and norskes too. We, finns, are burning huge bonfires to celebrate midsummer and murder/drowning statictics go skyhigh because of the alcohol use.

Re:RC code name (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3752075)

Hep, Danes included.
We should all party together.

OH THE HUMANITY! (-1)

mobydill (218466) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751872)

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Mirrors (4, Informative)

neo8750 (566137) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751876)

More Mirrors [Score +5 Informative] (-1, Troll)

DeezyChee (587489) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751908)

Re:More Mirrors [Score +5 Informative] (0, Troll)

forged (206127) | more than 12 years ago | (#3752047)

I recognize here the fine trolling style of people over at Trollaxor.

Oh, that and I have the privilege to be your first fan.

Re:Mirrors (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3751909)

Re:Mirrors (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3751911)

and they won'tsee the [goatse.cx] in there damn you are a retard

Re:Mirrors (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3751976)

yeah but at least this shit keeps him off the streets

abuse! (5, Funny)

koekepeer (197127) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751881)

hey. if they are asking people to abuse gnome 2.0 rc2, why the hell are all the trolls modded down?

maybe i'm just being stupid, but trolling seems a very appropriate reply to such an ill-formulated headline ;-)

have a nice day!

"Glad Midsommar" (-1, Redundant)

Stefan Fredriksson (196416) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751883)

For those who are not Swedish natives, "Glad Midsommar" means "Happy Midsummer"

We celebrate this every year with tons of eat and drink.

Those of us currently stuck in Australia (0, Offtopic)

sinistre (59027) | more than 12 years ago | (#3752076)

It's winter here you insensitive clod.

Vennlig hilsen,
Ole

i like it when dad reams my asshole! (-1)

on by (572414) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751887)

chowtosstits analdorksuck spitfistrape balldogsrape homoball poospissdork cockball titscums fuckfeelwank feelsuckjerk homowankhomo cunttoss tossbumsfuck jerkbums dogsfistfuck analjerk dicktwat dorkfuckshit dickfagsfist twitpoostoss chewsucktits fistlinuxfeel cockdicktwat twatfist dickrape sucktoss dickcuntdogs twatjerkcunt cuntdorkanal jerkball twitsuckdork feelscat fistfist twatscat homochowchow shitanaldogs scatdorktwit cunttitsjerk jerkhomosuck cumsfuck fucktwit analtitstwit homosuck spitrape dorkscatspit chewjerkdick wankrape bumstwit chowbumsdork chewdicktwit feelpoos balltosschow fuckspitcums linuxcockfuck chowscatscat homocock feeldogslinux tossfist tossshitfist chowchewtits fagspoosshit analspitcums shitchewfeel linuxfistwank shitwankpoos tossball twitfistchew linuxpoosscat rapetwit twitanalchew feelfagstits cumscumsanal sucktwit jerkfuck titschow chowfuck fisttitsbums rapecunt bumschowdork wankshitfist wanktwit linuxchewchow bumscunt ballrapeshit dogsshitfeel tossrapepoos jerkfuck twittwat suckchowpiss wankcockchow pisspissspit scatchowchew dorkpiss fuckdickpoos pissspit chowlinuxsuck chewfags rapetoss rapelinuxdogs cuntchew titsfagstwit dogsspit fagsfisttoss cockspitfuck jerkchewdogs twatrapechew pisswankscat poosdick cumscuntscat titslinux analfeelspit pisscuntpoos fagscumscums spitcums twatspithomo analjerk ballball titspoosdogs spitscatpoos ballwanksuck cockscatchow analchewfuck chewcockcums suckchow chewchewchew bumscuntfuck feelpissfuck rapecunt suckcock wankspitball wankhomotoss jerkjerkbums fistcockspit feeljerk analchewball fistpoos dickjerk dicklinuxball jerkfagstwat chewtossscat twitanal wanktitspiss twatfuckpoos fistcockanal tosslinuxtwit chewdickjerk scatdorkhomo twittosstwit twitsucklinux ballfagsjerk cocktits chowcums suckcunt titssuckhomo fistdorkdick twatcocksuck rapesuckspit pissfist chewfagsrape spitdickdork poossuckshit cuntfeel twitfist fistfagslinux chowwankjerk cumsfagspiss wankcunthomo bumsspitshit fagsanal linuxsuck cockjerkcunt poosanaldork dickpoos twatlinuxspit dorkraperape rapepiss jerkcunt linuxjerksuck linuxballsuck dorktwit poosshitpiss chewfuckchew chowfeelfags dogsjerktits ballcums fuckpoos scatjerk dickfeel spitwankfuck linuxchew suckcunttoss suckhomosuck linuxanalcunt cuntcocktwat fuckchewspit dicktitstoss chewhomo suckdogstwit suckdicklinux analfags tosssuckfist linuxjerk tosscuntchew chewtwatfist tossscatcock dickwankpoos feeltwit chowsuck fagsfagscock suckrape shitcocktits linuxtits bumsshitcock fagsanaltwat shitpisssuck cumschowtoss balllinuxfeel sucksuck cocktwat fagssuckfist rapejerk shitfucksuck chewcock rapeshit sucktosssuck cumsdogs tossball twatrapefeel spitspit cuntlinuxdogs titstitspoos wankfuckcunt scatcunt twatshitwank cuntsuckanal dogsdogsfist titsdogsshit chowjerkcunt fuckdorkspit titscock rapefuck fistsuck shitshit titsdork feelsuckpoos pisscums balllinuxtits fisttwitfist fagsshitrape linuxdick dicklinux scatwankfuck jerkwank scatscat tosstwit suckscatdogs chewlinux bumscockhomo cumsdorkchow fuckbumsfags chewscat rapepissfist dorkbums tossrapecunt spitspitfist cumsspittwat chewfags cocklinuxtwat pisspoos ballhomorape fagsbums cocktwitfist bumscunt poospisstwit rapechew poosballfuck suckballcock twatcumsjerk fagstits poosfistsuck dickcocktoss rapecocktits pooshomo cumsjerk shitdogs dogscuntshit spitfistdork pooscunt chowwank titsfistsuck scatdorkspit fagstoss suckdork chowtossfuck sucktwatlinux bumsfist suckfuck cockscat cunthomo cumschowfags suckjerkwank homopiss suckfuckjerk dicksuckscat cunthomo homofags twattoss ballfags analtwitpiss cuntchew pissfagspiss bumsdorkwank twitspitball sucktwit cuntfuckchew pooswank fagsdick ballscat rapeballfuck titsdorktwat rapefisthomo suckshitsuck feelwank analjerkcums cuntsuck fisthomoball chewdickjerk pisstoss spitcunttwit dorktwit fagsbumsspit pisstosshomo suckrape fagsshit wanklinux balltosstits linuxtwat suckcock shitsuck cunthomoball shitchewcunt scatrape suckpoosfags tosscunt scathomoanal ballwankfist analhomo dogsrapetwat dorktitssuck fagshomo analfeel cuntdickfist tosswanksuck poosfeelchew jerkfisttoss feelfuckscat chewsuckshit twitchewpiss fistbumssuck poostwitcock feelpiss twatdorklinux scatpoosanal spitdickpoos pisswankanal dorkshit tosspooslinux bumslinux cuntanaljerk analspitscat jerkdork dicktwatjerk wankcumscums tossanaltwat dogscocktoss chewchewfist dogspiss dogsdork poosshit cuntwankcunt fistpooscunt spitlinuxwank ballpoosscat spitpoosfeel twitbumsjerk dorkspit homochowchow jerkwankdork suckanaldork scatcunt balllinux bumssuckball rapecunt wankwanktwat ballchewshit tosspoos pissfeel spitpissrape fagsjerktits chowball rapeanal fistscattits twatanalcums twitdick suckwank dogstwatlinux twitcumsfuck bumspisspiss balllinuxanal homojerkbums ballchowdick feelfags linuxcuntball fagsdick feelfist suckbumsjerk wankcockcunt dorkbumspoos fistdickpoos bumsfagsrape fuckrape sucksuck twitspit chewdorkchew dorktoss cockcumscunt dorkjerkfist twitfagsdick sucktossshit cumssuck twitbums feelsuck fagsbumscunt chowfeeldogs wankwankpoos sucksuckcock tossanalspit twitanalfuck rapetitsfist sucktitslinux scatfagsfuck shitcock fistfeel feeldicktits fagspiss dogsanal cockchew sucklinuxcunt scattitscums bumsdogsspit fuckcuntsuck twitdick twatchewshit bumstitsbums fagstoss dickrapechow jerkwank analspittwat titsballsuck pissdogs jerktoss fagsdogsfist jerkjerkfist cockfeellinux titspissrape poosrapehomo rapedorkbums spitscatscat linuxtitsfuck twatbumsball chewanalcums chewhomo cumsdickrape tosschow twatcuntwank chewbumsshit titsfuckdork chowbums ballpoosanal twatshitfeel cunttwitpiss homofistchew dogshomofags ballfistjerk feelcunt homosuckjerk linuxcums linuxspitscat analdork wankchewanal suckscatdick jerkdickrape titsball fistsucktoss fagsbumsdick scathomocock cocklinuxrape twitwank bumsfuckball twatfeel

Garnome (5, Informative)

Spock the Vulcan (196989) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751889)

As always, if you want to give the latest Gnome a whirl without messing up your existing system, try Garnome [gnome.org]
It takes a while to build (about an hour on my 1.0 GHz PIII), but it doesn't touch your existing install - everything goes into ~/garnome.

Re:Garnome (1)

AnoniemeLafaard (244106) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751988)

I'd love to, but the current version is still 0.11.0, which works with RC1, right? I guess we'll have to be a little more pateint for Jeff to release the garnome version that works with RC2.

Re:Garnome (1)

d2002xx (586197) | more than 12 years ago | (#3752019)

Only a hour!!! How fast compiling gnome is! I took whold day to compile KDE3 on my K6-2-400, and it only includes kdebase and kdelibs......

The /. experience (-1)

Klerck (213193) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751890)

CmdrTaco and his friend Hemos arrived right on schedule at 7. CmdrTaco had Hemos wait outside while made me undress and lay on the bed with my head hanging over the foot. He then blindfolded me and went to get his friend. They were whispering when they returned to the room. I heard a zipper open and immediately felt a huge soft cock on my face. It had to be Hemos's. I reached for it but my hands were grabbed. Apparently Hemos had one hand and CmdrTaco the other. Wrist straps were quickly fastened to my arms and they were stretched tightly pulled straight out to my sides and fastened to ropes. The big cock left my face. My balls were tied tightly and stretched to the ceiling with a bungee cord. I could not move in any direction without pulling hard on my balls. "My balls are hurting", I said. CmdrTaco then informed me that anytime I made a sound I would receive whacks on my balls with the paddle. He would start now with 10. Each time he heard a sound he would increase the number by one. "Is that OK with you?" he asked shoving the poppers under my nose. "Sure,", I replied. Whereupon he declared that now I was getting 11! "And you should have answered "yes Sir", he said. So... stupid me, I said "yes sir". "12 now", he responded. And began to again pound on my already aching balls with the paddle. When he go to ten he said "tell me to hit them harder". "Harder" I replied. And so now I was to get 13 whacks. Again when he reached 10 he told me to tell him harder. I had to choice but to comply.14 now. CmdrTaco continued to play this game with my balls until he had gotten me up to 20 hits. These were not light little pats either. Remember, I had been begging him, at his command, to keep hitting me harder all this time.

By now I had received well over 200 painful swats on my balls. They were starting to swell and become tenderer. All the time CmdrTaco had been beating my balls, Hemos had be alternately twisting and chewing on my nipples. They were starting to get pretty sore by now. He had also been shoving his rock hard dick down my throat. Sometimes he held it there, choking me, when CmdrTaco was hitting my balls the hardest. Mike asked Hemos if he would like to take a whack at my balls. "I have never tried anything like that before" Hemos answered. "I wouldn't know how hard to hit them". "I will tell you if you hit them too hard" CmdrTaco laughingly replied. "Seriously", Hemos said, "How will you know I if I hit them too hard?" "If he cries" CmdrTaco said. "Of course that will be more noise which willrequire more hits", CmdrTaco told Hemos. CmdrTaco then made me take 4 or 5 hits of poppers then turned around and sat his beautiful ass on my face... "Start the next set of whacks on his balls. I think we are at 20 now", CmdrTaco told Hemos. If he does not get his tongue up my ass far enough I will tell you to hit them harder." Hemos started twisting on one tit then the other while he began to count the poundings on my nuts. I worked my tongue around his asshole and tried desperately to shove it in. He had his butt clenched tightly shut. I couldn't get my tongue in at all. "Hit him harder", CmdrTaco told Hemos. Hemos swung the paddle harder and I licked and sucked at CmdrTaco's hole. He knew I was trying my best but he kept squeezing it tight not letting me in so he could tell Hemos to him me harder.

"Change places with me", CmdrTaco told Hemos. "I'll show you how to get his tongue to work". He got out the tit clamps and proceeded to tighten one onto each nipple. He made them so tight that he made me cry out. "Whoops - more paddling" he said. He forced me to take an enormous amount of poppers and told me that the whacks were going to get harder and harder every time Hemos had to tell me to get my tongue in farther. Hemos sat back against my face and I started licking his delicious ass. CmdrTaco started paddling my balls fairly lightly. "This will be good" I thought. I kept licking and sucking at his hole but not really making an attempt to get my tongue in yet. I was enjoying the light paddling and the taste of this great hole. "Get your tongue in there", commanded Hemos. CmdrTaco started hitting me harder. "Enjoying that ass?' CmdrTaco asked. Hemos said, "I want his tongue up there now. HIT HIM HARDER". WHAM WHAM CmdrTaco really started to pound on my balls hard now. I knew I'd better get into Hemos's ass. I pushed my tongue at the center but it would not budge. ""Harder", commanded Hemos. CmdrTaco hid harder and harder and I pushed with all my might. Hemos stepped away from my face and CmdrTaco told him to feed me lots of poppers. After about 6 or 7 deep hits of popper I thought I was finished but CmdrTaco made me take one more. I knew by the amount of poppers that he had serious plans for me. "You get your tongue in his ass now or I will beat your balls until they burst. Hemos sat back on my face and I started sucking at his hole. I pushed with all my might but there was no getting in. "He STILL IS NOT IN MY ASS" screamed Hemos. CmdrTaco squeezed the tit clamps again. "Do you want me to hit his balls again"? CmdrTaco asked Hemos. "Do you like to see his balls hit". "Yeah" Hemos said. "Hit him harder again".. WHAM WHAM CmdrTaco hit me and finally my tongue slid into his delicious ass. "AHHH,' Hemos exclaimed. "DEEPER" So CmdrTaco hit me harder still.

Finally CmdrTaco decided to give my balls a break. He took a short leather strap and started to beat my cock. Slap after slap. He hit it from one end to the other concentrating on the tender head. All the while I kept sucking and tonguing Hemos's ass. Hemos then turned around and shoved his cock down my throat. He must have really liked the ball beating and ass sucking as it seemed as if his cock was two inches longer than before.

"Grab his ankles", CmdrTaco said. He grabbed a large dildo and began to work it into my ass. Hemos made me take a couple of hits of poppers and stuck his big cock back in my throat. CmdrTaco took my tender balls in his strong hand and began to crush them as he pushed and shoved the dildo all the way in. I was in pig heaven. Hemos had his huge cock in my throat while he was twisting and pulling on my tits. CmdrTaco was shoving that giant dildo in and out of my ass. CmdrTaco asked Hemos if he would like to see a fist go up my ass. Hemos said he had never seen that and would like to. CmdrTaco told him that he had never been able to get his hand in me but really wanted to. "Actually", CmdrTaco said, "I have seen a movie where a guy not only got his hand in an ass but his cock too. Then the guy actually jerked off inside the guy's ass. " I would really like to do that" CmdrTaco said. Hemos suggested that maybe if he made me take enough poppers and held my ankles maybe CmdrTaco could do it. They put ankle straps on me and hooked them together so that Hemos could hold them with one hand, leaving the other to work on my tits. He also kept his dick or his balls or his ass on my face the whole time. CmdrTaco worked the big dildo in and out of my ass until it was good and loose. He pulled the dildo out and began to work his fingers into me. Soon he had the fingers of both hands in me and was rubbing them in and out much like you would wash your hands. I thought I would explode with excitement. He pulled his fingers from my ass and started ramming the giant dildo into me again. My cock was as hard as a rock from the combination of the great sex and the viagra pill they had made me take. Hemos had now re-straddled my face watching CmdrTaco work on my ass. I sucked and probed at Hemos's ass while he moaned in pleasure.

"Do you want to cum?", CmdrTaco asked me. "Yes" I shouted as he sucked my dick and worked on it with his tongue. Then he bit down hard on my dick. " Maybe you can cum after I get my whole hand in your ass", he said. "He turned to Hemos and said, "you make him take a ton of poppers, then make him eat your ass while you work his nipples hard. And don't stop until I get my fist in his ass. Then I am going to shove my dick in beside my wrist." Hemos made me take lots of poppers while CmdrTaco started to pull the huge dildo from my ass. Hemos then straddled my face and I again began to suck at his hole. CmdrTaco started to push his hand into me. Hemos was twisting my tits while I worked my tongue into him. "Shove that hand in there" Hemos said. CmdrTaco pushed and twisted until finally I felt my hole give way and his hand slid all the way into me. What an intense feeling. He slowly twisted and turned his hand against my prostrate. Pre-cum was flowing from my dick like water. I felt CmdrTacos dick against my leg as it worked it's way toward my hole. It felt like a steel rod. I don't think I have ever seen CmdrTaco more excited. The head of his cock came up against my hole next to his arm. I sucked as Hemos's ass like never before. He was moaning with the sight of CmdrTaco's cock starting to slide into me. I felt the hand open up inside my ass as it received his rock hard dick. Hemos twisted and pulled on my tits. "Untie his right hand", CmdrTaco told Hemos. "We are all going to cum at the same time", he said. He was pounding his meat with his fist in my ass. Hemos moved back and again shoved his beautiful cock in my mouth. I grabbed my dick and started jerking hard. Each down stroke brought my fist crashing into my tied and swollen nuts. Harder and harder I pounded my balls as Hemos fucked my face. CmdrTaco screamed, "I'm cumming" as he grabbed my balls with his free hand and crushed them with all his strength. Hemos saw this and tightened his grip on my tits and moaned as he shot load after load of sweet cum down my throat. Just as CmdrTaco squeezed my nuts the hardest Hemos grabbed my hand away from my dick. I felt the cum trying to leave my balls through the stretched and tied tubes connecting them to my body but it was not to be. CmdrTaco and Hemos looked at each other and smiled. They were just beginning. They quickly withdrew from me and removed the ropes and clamps.

"You have ten minutes to rest" CmdrTaco said, "then Hemos gets to make up the rules"

To be continued...

Re:The /. experience (-1)

on by (572414) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751910)

"I'm a man!" I groaned. "I've been fucked by a man's cock! I'm not a
boy anymore!"

I scooped Dad's and Uncle Brian's shit into my hands and smeared my body
with their warm filth. Lying on the floor of the basement, wallowing in the waste of these two men, I gazed up at the candles. They flickered
silently. I lay at the foot of the cross as upon an altar where I was the victim being offered up to the God of raunch!

Dad and Uncle Brian held me in their arms. Our filthy, smelly bodies rubbing against one another. My cock stirred and jerked upward within the confines of the leather jockstrap. I reached down and pulled it free, stroking it with my shit fillled hand.

The warmth of manturd on my cock, the stench that wafted into my nostrils made my body tremble and my asshole, my dirty asshole, quivered at the sensation it had just felt for the very first time!

My tight boy hole was no longer virgin territory. My father had filled me with his manhood and his seed. I belonged to him now in a special way.

Reaching up to my Dad, I grasped the back of his neck with my shitty hand and drew his lips towards mine.

"Am I a man now, Dad?" I whispered, as his lips grazed mine.

"Yes, my son!" he answered, softly. "You are now a man!"

Uncle Brian slid down, trailing wet kisses along my filth covered body. Closer and closer he slid his mouth towards my hard cock.

"Mmmmmmmmmmmm!" I moaned, as he took my raunchy dick into his mouth and sucked. "Yeah! Suck my dirty dick, Uncle Brian! Fuckin' suck your shit off my dick!"

I squirmed, thrusting my hips upwards, sinking my cock deep within my Uncle's mouth.

As he sucked on my dick, he reached up and to his left, ramming his fingers up his brother's asshole!

"Aaaaaahhhhhh!" Dad groaned, welcoming this intrusion. "Fuck! Give it to me Brian. Fist my shitty hole!"

Slowly, Dad got up on all fours. He positioned himself over me, his cock hanging over my mouth.

"My fuckhole is so hungry, Brian! I need your fist up my ass!"

Uncle Brian took his mouth off of my dick and knelt between my outstreatched legs and Dad's upturned ass. He worked several fingers in and out of Dad's asshole. The pasty goo oozing out of Dad's shithole
served as lube as Uncle Brian inserted all five of his fingers in Dad's butthole!

"Fuck yeah! Give it to me, little brother! More!" Dad groaned, pushing his hairy ass back onto Uncle Brian's disappearing fingers. The knuckles penetrated. Dad maoned out loud and reached for the bottle of Rush.

I could hear him inhaling the vapors from the bottle deeply. I sucked his cock into my mouth.

"Ah fuck!" Dad cried out, as my head jerked upward to swallow his semi-hard cock and Uncle Brian's hand sunk into Dad's gaping, hungry hole!

"How's that feel, brother?"

"Fuckin' wonderful, Brian! Fuck me! Punch my ass, little brother!"

Uncle Brian scooped some of the shit from my body and coated his arm with it. Sighing with animal lust he began fucking Dad's ass with his fist.

"More! More!" Dad grunted, pushing his ass back taking more of Uncle Brian's arm up his ass. "Find something up there you like, Brian?"

"I feel shit, Chris!" Uncle Brian yelled, "I can feel your fuckin' butt
slop!"

"Yeah! Dig for shit, little brother! Dig for my stinking shit! That's
your playground, Brian! Give it to me, fucker! Punch my dirty ass!"

Uncle Brian pistoned his fist in and out of Dad's ass. When he withdrew
his hand completely I could feel Dad's warm shit oozing out of his
asshole onto my dick. I sucked his cock harder.

"Yeah! You fuckiin' cocksucker! Suck my dick, Philip! Suck it while
your Uncle fists my shitty asshole!"

"Fuckin' shit pigs!" Uncle Brian shouted. "We're fuckin' dirty pigs!"

"Fist my raunchy ass, Brian! Shove your fuckin' arm up my dirty ass!"

Uncle Brian lunged forward. Dad's greedy hole swallowed his brother's
arm up to the elbow!

"Yes! Yes! You fuckin' bitch! Pound my ass, Brian! Suck my fuckin'
dick, Philip! Don't stop! Please don't stop, the both of you!
Aaaaaahhhhhh! Fuck!"

Uncle Brian and I worked in unison giving pleasure to Dad. The one
fisting; the other sucking; Dad moaning in ecstacy.

"Need more!" Dad yelled. "I wanna feel Philip's fist up my ass with
yours too!"

I gasped as Dad pulled his dick out of my mouth.

"Get back there with your Uncle, Philip, and shove your fist up my
hungry asshole! I want you both at the same time!"

I wiggled myself from beneath my Dad and knelt beside my Uncle Brian
whose arm was embedded in his brother's shithole.

"There's some crisco in the toy bag, Philip. Lube your hand up with
it."

I retrieved the can and proceded to grease up my hand and forearm.

"Are you ready, Philip?"

"Oh yeah!" I hissed as Uncle Brian retracted his arm to his wrist.

"Fuck me, guys!" Dad hollered, "I wanna feel the both of you up my ass
digging for shit!"

"Slide your fingers up your Dad's ass, one at a time, Philip. Do it
slow. Take your time. When you're all the way in, hold my hand!"

I did as I was told. One finger at a time.

"Fuck! Fuck!" Dad yelled. "Give it to me, son!"

Slowly, my hand disappeared into the gaping, dirty hole. My hand slid
alongside that of my Uncle's and he curled his fingers around mine.

"Ah shit!" Dad let out a loud gasp. He looked back at us, his eyes
glazed with lust. "Fucking pigs!" he screamed. "Fuck me! Fist fuck
my shitty ass!"

In tandem, Uncle Brian and I pumped our fists deeper and deeper into the
willing, hungry asshole. As we fisted Dad's ass, Uncle Brian kissed me
deeply. Our mouths greedily sucking each other's tongues as our fists
punched away in the sewer of my Dad's filthy butthole.

"Aaaaaahhhhhh! Yeeeeessssss! Yeah! Pound my motherfuckin' dirty ass!
Fuck me! Dig the shit outta my ass, you fuckin' sluts! Fuckin' pigs!"

As I gazed upwards, the candles flickered softly, casting their glow
upon the cross which the three of us, eerily were kneeling before.
Together, we were upon the altar of Raunch. A new sacrificial lamb was
being offered up to the God of Shit!

I clasped my Uncle Brian's huge, uncut cock in my free hand and began
stroking.

"Jack me off, Philip! Make me cum!"

I pull and pull on his cock, milking the pre-cum from his pisshole. He
reaches for my dick and returns the favor. Stroke for stroke, we
masturbate one another as we bury our fists up Dad's filthy asshole.

A million shocks of pleausure envelope my body. I'm tingling all over.
So much has happened to me tonight. So many new discoveries. Pain with
pleasure. Pleasure with pain!

The journey that began several months ago has opened up for me a whole
new world that I embrace willingly.

"Yes! Yes! Jack me off too, Uncle Brian! I wanna cum again!"

Together, the three of us pull on cocks. We are untied, bound together
in a very special union.

"Fuck! Fuck!" we gasp in unison, "I'm gonna fuckin' shoot!"

Our bodies heave and tremble. Dad impales himself more deeply upon mine
and Uncle Brian's fists as he ejaculates upon the floor.

One by one. One right after another, our cocks explode sending ropes of
cum flying in the air.

As Uncle Brian and I retract our hands from Dad's ass, a slurping sound
is heard. His puckering bud flares and a foul smelling fart hisses from
his fisted hole. It's stink fills my nostrils as I collapse onto him,
my mouth at his asshole. Sucking. Nursing at the brown shit log he's
pushing out of his asshole into my mouth.

I tumble onto the floor, my mouth filled with Dad's shit. Uncle Brian
collapses beside me and kisses me deeply. A sloppy, slurping shit kiss.
Dad too, crashes to the floor, panting heavily in the aftermath of his
orgasm. He moans and releases a flow of warm piss that streams its way
towards Uncle Brian and I.

I am in heaven! The journey of a boy to manhood is completed.

Epilogue

January 1, 2000

It's cold outside. The wind is whipping snow against the window. I'm
making this enty into my journal sitting on a rim seat gazing at the
falling snow.

Dad is under the rim seat receiving my morning dump, the way he always
does, in his hungry mouth!

As for Uncle Brian. He lives here with Dad and I now. He's our lover.
We're each other's lovers. Strange isn't it, how things come about?

As Dad feeds from my asshole, Uncle Brian is sucking on my pissing cock.
Outside, the snow is swirling. Everything is beautiful. What more
could a sixteen-year-old teenage boy ask for?
You tell me!

Gnome2 problems (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3751892)

I always been a gnome user, and i prefer gnome over KDE but i am dissapointed. I have been compiling gnome2 from CVS every 2-3 weeks.
Things I hope they can change in by release day.
Japanese Input is broken in gnome2 applications.
File Chooser is not improved.( I know this is planned for the 2.2 release)
I was expecting a lot more from gnome control center.
Default configurations are bad.

Re:Gnome2 problems (0, Troll)

d2002xx (586197) | more than 12 years ago | (#3752061)

1. Why input japanese? English is the only global (and only useful) language even if you hate it.

2. I think something like the address-bar in konqueror is much useful than file-chooser.

3. The quickest method to do configuration is to modify the configuration file, isn't it? Are you newbie?

Whip me (-1)

Anal Cocks (557998) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751896)

Harder. Excellent...

Missing info at Released note (3, Funny)

sebol (112743) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751898)

i've recieve the announcement view gnome announce mailing list. it contained with extra information:-

"Can we have a special TELSABUG category, and everything gets dropped
to fix them first?" - Telsa Gwynne

Re:Missing info at Released note (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3751906)

Isn't she the chick that looks like she used to ride the short bus and is Alan Cox's wife?

Re:Missing info at Released note (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3752015)

If you mean she looks like this: yikes! [linux.org.uk] , then you are right!
Now, if this [linux.org.uk] isn't a good argument for birth control, I don't know what is.

gnome-panel (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3751901)

Does anybody else's gnome-panel (in gnome-2) automatically reorder their launchers in undesirable ways every time it gets launched? I see mine reorder them to almost but not exactly the order they were created in.

Looking forward with mixed feelings (5, Interesting)

Karora (214807) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751904)

I've been playing with Gnome 2 for a while now, and I must admit it is starting to feel like a stable release.

There are a few things that I have mixed feelings about though. The default WM is switching to Metacity, which doesn't have the power and configurability of Sawfish, and that is symptomatic of the general reduction in configurability.

Someone, somewhere has decided that configurability === complexity, and that a bewildering array of choices is too many for a newbie. This appears to have been translated into a general 'dumbing down' of the interface.

I can no longer tell Sawfish to remember my window sizes. The Gnome Panel can no longer swallow applications, so all of those WM applets are now useless to me. I can't run the Afterstep clock applet!

I guess it is the applications job to remember what window size I last used, and to remember it without me telling the WM to do so, but they don't - not even Nautilus2 remembers it's window sizes - every time it opens a new window which is slightly less than 1/4 of my screen size.

Overall, this is probably a good thing. People should be writing their applications to remember UI things, and having the WM remember those probably makes them lazy, but I can see a bit of pain in my future with Gnome 2, until these issues are solved and Gnome 3 is released, perhaps.

At least Gnome 2 does seem somewhat snappier than Gnome 1.4, and the styling is better, especially with anti-aliasing available throughout.

Re:Looking forward with mixed feelings (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3751919)

This is starting to worry me. I have an old laptop that I use with gnome because it feels snappier than KDE. I don't think this machine would be able to handle KDE3. I've heard that gnome2.0 is quicker than gnome 1.4 on the same hardware.

Is Sun just playing lip-service to gnome development or what? Isn't their default desktop supposed to be gnome at some point in the not too distant future. You would think that with Sun and Redhat's involvement in gnome that these issues would have been resolved before release.

Oh well. If the time it's taking kde3 to reach sid is any indication, maybe some of these quirks will be sorted out before the debs are put on unstable.

Re:Looking forward with mixed feelings (3, Informative)

Karora (214807) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751940)

Gnome2 will hit Debian unstable fairly soon. In fact it is mostly in there already - there are just a few things in experimental really.

I would say that in your case you probably will be better off with Gnome2, because it does seem snappier than 1.4.

Why use either? (2, Informative)

Arker (91948) | more than 12 years ago | (#3752022)

Seriously, I run straight WindowMaker even on newer hardware, sure on a fast machine I bring up a gnome panel occassionally to mess around with, but I honestly never really understood why people seem to think they have to have KDE or GNOME on a machine - particularly an older one of course. Install the libs, and whatever applications you have to have, and they'll run just fine without any panels or the like...

Re:Looking forward with mixed feelings (3, Insightful)

Ami Ganguli (921) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751922)

I don't think you have to wait for Gnome 3.0 for this stuff to be fixed. The improvements between 1.0 and 1.4.x were amazing and I would expect the same kind of thing here.

Also, it'll take a while for most applications to be ported over to Gnome 2.0. In that respect I think a lot of users might be disappointed since most of what people think of as "Gnome" is really applications. The release of Gnome 2.0 means the new API and a few basic tools are ready, but the real benefits won't be apparent until Gnumeric, Evolution, and other big apps are ported over.

Re:Looking forward with mixed feelings (1)

groman (535485) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751938)

What I'm interested in is if they fixed that *feature* that didn't allow you to change the shapes of widgets in Gtk.. like Qt lets you.

Re:Looking forward with mixed feelings (2)

Ami Ganguli (921) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751973)

Are you saying that under Qt you can change a text box into an oval or something like that? Is this at the application development level or at the theme level?

Agreement, but reserved. (4, Insightful)

Inoshiro (71693) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751958)

I agree that dumbing down is bad, but I don't agree with your WM point. Why should every GUI program writer write the same support code? You might as well say that they have to make all their apps stateful by hand. It's much simpler to provide one provably correct code path in the WM, than potentially thousands in all the applications in a system.

For those apps which are "special," they could simply send a "NON_STATEFUL" token to the WM when dealing with that window.

Re:Looking forward with mixed feelings (2)

LionKimbro (200000) | more than 12 years ago | (#3752013)

The Gnome Panel can no longer swallow applications, so all of those WM applets are now useless to me. I can't run the Afterstep clock applet!
Wait, does this mean that Wanda no longer fits in the panel?

NOOOoooooooo!!!

Re:Looking forward with mixed feelings (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3752040)

An anlogue clock applet for the panel is missing too.

Just anti-aliasing? (0, Offtopic)

arvindv (524649) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751918)

After using ClearType on Windows XP, Gnome's antialiasing looks disappointing...

Re:Just anti-aliasing? (1)

loply (571615) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751934)

There are multiple anti-aliasing algorithms available for Gnome/XFree. Search on google for "Xft Hack" for a patch which results in a Microsoft style look.

Also, if you want "ClearType" (technically known as sub-pixel antialiasing) you will have to do a bit of XftConfig`ing.

Re:Just anti-aliasing? (3, Informative)

JamesHenstridge (14875) | more than 12 years ago | (#3752026)

If you are using Xft for font rendering (that is, you set the GDK_USE_XFT environment variable to 1), you can turn on cleartype style rendering. If your LCD panel is in RGB order, you can put the following in your ~/.Xdefaults file:
Xft.rgba: rgb

Or equivalently, in your ~/.xftconfig file:
match edit rgba=rgb;

"Gnome 2.0 RC2 Asks For Abuse" (4, Funny)

Second_Derivative (257815) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751923)

Sure thing, "Your mother was a hamster..."

Re:"Gnome 2.0 RC2 Asks For Abuse" (2, Funny)

JayAndSilentBob (517888) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751997)

and your father smelt of elderberries! I fart in your general direction!

Re:"Gnome 2.0 RC2 Asks For Abuse" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3752045)

I told him we already Got ONE!

You wan't abuse eh? (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3751942)

Fuck you gnome! Who wan'ts fucking smelly feet on the fucking desktop! You suck! There isn't a place were you rule!

Windows has got their desktop right, its been more or less the same since about 1994 (When Windows Chicago came out)

Linux has no need for you! Its got the kick ass K Desktop Enviroment which is much better than your shit!

Mac OS X dosen't need you, its got an Aqua interface which nukes your smelly fucking feet off the fucking planet! Don't Forget KDE is avalible for it too!

Solaris is no good because they got CDE which owns j00 in its fucking sleep!

Who the fuck needs gnome! Its slow, bloated, a fat bastard file manager, DEPENDS on mozilla for its browsing components and has a butt ugly motif like interface which you fucking stole from the fucking GIMP! Your only freinds is shit hat and those fucking monkey brains over at Ximan!

KDE 0wn j00 and it is the choice of all the 'Desktop' linuxes, Mandrake, SuSE, Lycoris and So on.

Fuck off and die smelly feet and let the mighty K rule the penguins desktop!

P.S, in the garden i have two gnomes, one who is humping a turtle and another one who looks like bin laden

P.P.S, wash your fucking feet!

+1 funny dammit!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3751971)

Why has nobody done this yet?

A Haiku for you! (1)

HaikuSpank (587493) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751950)

Desktop exploded Somebody please kill me now. I was running Gnome. Jesse haiku12.20.beamsplat@spamgourmet.com

Re:A Haiku for you! (1)

HaikuSpank (587493) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751956)

Desktop exploded
Somebody please kill me now.
I was running Gnome.

I should've hit 'Preview', shouldn't I? I'm such a n00b!

Jesse
haiku12.20.beamsplat@spamgourmet.com

What about KDE? (-1, Redundant)

cybermint (255744) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751966)

Asking .... will KDE vanquish GNOME, or "which will win the desktop environment wars" is the wrong question. It's like asking "Which will win, Ford or Vauxhall?". I wouldn't be surprised if a decade from now, KDE and GNOME are still around, still with plenty of happy users. I think KDE will be loved more by those who came from Windows and are most happy with a Windows style desktop environment (which is in fact quite a good design, MS bashing aside).

I think GNOME should start to differentiate itself in some way, and I expect we'll start seeing them diverge somewhat as GNOME realise they can't out-KDE KDE, and instead try and do their own thing.

Re:What about KDE? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3751983)

KDE is a WHOLE lot better than Gnome! Gnome is just a crappy copy quickly hacked together because of 'licences'. Now that QT is GPL Gnomes original purpose is gone and its obsolete!

Just scrap Gnome and join together to make one ultimate desktop! Just like when microsoft abandoned the 20 year old DOS Code for the NT Kernel with XP!

Im a KDE Supporter and I know GNOME sucks really badly and it should be destroyed! KDE looks a whole lot better than GNOME WILL ever be! Currently in Development is KDE new Keramik GUI. I downloaded a beta version from Suse linuKS and it is better than any other GUI ive seen in my life! Gnome limps on with crappy and obsolete PIXMAP guis and wonders why it sucks! KDE is the Future and gnome is dying! If you use gnome than your a loser!

But then theres always been flamewars between different Programs such as Emacs vs VIM, joe vs nano, linux vs BSD vs Windows, Aqua vs Luna, GTK vs QT vs TK vs Motif vs Athena vs Curses vs other toolkits and we will not stop having them until one defeats the other and reigns supreme! And KDE is winning!

Re:What about KDE? (1, Troll)

JanneM (7445) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751984)

Actually, I've seen the opposite effect. From what I've seen, people coming from Windows tend to prefer Gnome over KDE precisely because it's not like the Windows desktop they've left behind. It seems to be a combination of factors. One seems to be a desire to 'make a clean break'; they left Windows for a reason, and do not wish to be reminded of it. Another is likely to be the danger of confusion in using a desktop that's almost - but not quite - like the one they already know. Using a very different desktop there is no longer that danger.

Both Gnome and KDE are good, and Linux is far stronger for having two lively projects (and a lot of small or special-purpose projects as well) in this area.

/Janne

Re:What about KDE? (2, Informative)

RPoet (20693) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751993)

Very nice reasoning, and quite original [slashdot.org] , too.

Parent is a copy!!!! (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3752027)

This guy copied the whole message from previous Slashdot message written by someone else!! Very lame!! He's just trying to get more karma by using others.

Dumbarses (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3751972)

Why use a piece of shit 2.0, when you can use 3.0.1!!! [kde.org] . Fag0ts.

Quick hurry! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3751985)

Re:Quick hurry! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3752037)

I want to suggest you wait until next week when KDE 3.0.2 is released.

Gnome vs. KDE (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3751990)

Well for those of you who don't already know, KDE kicks the pants off gnome!

Re:Gnome kills KDE (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3752074)

With Gnome-2 KDE is dead :)

Where's the ChangeLog ? (1)

loom (35551) | more than 12 years ago | (#3751996)


Where is the ChangeLog between RC1 and RC2 ? All the release notes say is that "some bugs were fixed", which isn't really interesting.

Re:Where's the ChangeLog ? (1)

d2002xx (586197) | more than 12 years ago | (#3752029)

It's RC2, not a new version. I think any new featues should not be added, or it may need to release RC3, RC4, RC5, etc.

Re:Where's the ChangeLog ? (2, Informative)

JamesHenstridge (14875) | more than 12 years ago | (#3752036)

You can use bugzilla [gnome.org] to find this information.

As an example, here [gnome.org] is a list of all bugs with the GNOME2 keyword that are in the RESOLVED, VERIFIED or CLOSED state that changed state between the RC1 and RC2 releases. It is not complete, and probably isn't fully accurate (some changes may have been fixed but no new tarball is available yet), but it gives you an idea of what has changed.

No Launch-Feedback and Menu-Editor in Gnome 2.0 (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3752034)

They couldn't fix menu editing so they simply dropped it completely. Now they say you have to wait until 2.0.1 for it. Why not delay 2.0? Can't they resist pressure of all the firms like Sun who wants to see it released before Solaris 9?

Re:No Launch-Feedback and Menu-Editor in Gnome 2.0 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3752053)

They also hadn't time anymore for complete control center integration into Nautilus, a new file dialog, a Nautilus Bonobo HTML part. So I tend to agree with you.

The release notes (-1)

Genghis Troll (158585) | more than 12 years ago | (#3752035)

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To hell with Gnome. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3752051)

I want to use a Desktop Environment...that can... s.i.i.i.i.n.n.n.g.g.g.g...

More Flamebait (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3752055)

Re:More Flamebait (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3752059)

Look at the date, Debian 3.0 includes KDE 2.2.2.

New Button Order (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3752056)

Is here anyone who loves or agree with the new button order in dialogs?

Re:New Button Order (0)

Cheesy Fool (530943) | more than 12 years ago | (#3752065)

Well, it wasn't hard to adjust but i'd like to know the reasons why this was done, because i don't see how it makes it anymore usual.

Re:New Button Order (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3752072)

And you are not confused that non-Gnome2 applications (like Gtk, Gnome1, KDE, other) present a different order? Never mistakenly clicked the wrong, dangerous option?
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