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Cracking Down on MP3s at the Office

CmdrTaco posted more than 12 years ago | from the but-i-need-those-tunes-to-live dept.

Music 419

jhaberman writes " has a story about how corporations are now starting to crack down on networked MP3's, not necessarily for the reasons you might think." Talks about legal issues, as well as bandwidth issues, and the simple issue of employees wasting their employers time.

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FP Suckas (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3784120)

Yo yo yo This looks like a job fo' me


k0osh.CEOofCLIT (582286) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784212)


I eat delivery all the time at least three nights a week. I like the variety of food, Chinese, Italian, Spanish and so on. I have a crush on about four guys from different places. Pizza on Mondays means I get to look at Tony the owners son when he delivers. Tony is like a big kid, piercing brown eyes and hard firm muscles. Chinese food means Johnny, dark black hair and a nice tight ass. Thursday means spice day and Manuel delivers that when I get my hot Spanish dishes. I have always flirted with the three of them and we all have a friendly relationship. Out of the three of them Manuel was by far the sexiest, he had dark black hair and beautiful brown eyes and the cutest smile I have ever seen.

Last Thursday Manuel came to the door and as usual I invited him in, he usually refused saying he had to get back to work. This night I happened to be his last delivery and he did not have to go back to work. He came in and we immediately knew that we were attracted to each other. Our eyes locked and we began kissing and foundling each others manhood's. We stripped down and kissed passionately, Manuel had the softest thickest tongue I ever had in my mouth. I decided to make the big move first and pulled this Spanish hunks big cock into my mouth. I sucked and licked his beautiful sweaty balls. I pushed him on to the floor and mouth massaged his burning thick manhood. Manuel exploded his spicy load into my mouth and I sucked him dry. He returned the favor by placing his manly lips around my meat and power sucking.

Manuel sucked and sucked my hot rod but I was holding out for the prize, he must have licked and sucked my cock and balls for over thirty pleasure filled minutes. I was not going to shoot off in this studs mouth, I wanted the backdoor prize and was going to get it. I pulled my cock out of his mouth and roughly slapped it across his face, I told him if he wanted his tip he would have to give me the goods. Manuel turned around and spread his tight meaty ass wide open. His golden brown love hole was glistening with wet juice and he was begging for relief. I decided I wanted to taste that sweet looking round cake and shoved my tongue way up inside, Manuel screamed with pleasure, I licked his sugar walls. By Manuel was begging for packing, he wanted exactly what I needed. I got behind him and mounted my attack, quickly shoving my tool inside his tight wet ass. After about three pumps I was not able to hold back, we both screamed as I shot my hot load up his sweet brown ass.

Re: Hi Kewsh! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3784386)

I saw your delivery food my friend bought and it did suck. Who the fuck are you to treat customers in such a way? You call yourself a business you ignorant piece of shit. You are a waste of flesh. You have no rhythm. You are ridiculous and obnoxious. You are the moral equivalent of a leech. You are a living emptiness, a meaningless void. You are sour and senile. You are a disease, you puerile one-handed slack-jawed drooling meatslapper.

You snail-skulled little rabbit. Would that a hawk pick you up, drive its beak into your brain, and upon finding it rancid set you loose to fly briefly before spattering the ocean rocks with the frothy pink shame of your ignoble blood. May you choke on the queasy, convulsing nausea of your own trite, foolish beliefs.

I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same species as you. You are a monster, an ogre, a malformity. I barf at the very thought of you. You have all the appeal of a paper cut. Lepers avoid you. You are vile, worthless, less than nothing. You are a weed, a fungus, the dregs of this earth. And did I mention you smell?

Have a nice day fuckface.. And by the way.. I would love you fuck your ugly daughter again.. Tell her I said hello.. which brings me to my other question...

How does my dick taste?

Good (0, Troll)

Anomolous Cow Herd (457746) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784122)

Just like you shouldn't be playing Flash games at the office either. Quit stealing time from your employer and start working.

F to Fucking P (-1)

Pr0n K1ng (160688) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784125)

Get it in you!

Bring your MP3's to work on CD-Rom... (3, Insightful)

Nijika (525558) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784126)

There's no reason to have a fileserver full of MP3's on the company dime. These days it's tantamount to having porno on the corporate fileserver.

Re:Bring your MP3's to work on CD-Rom... (2, Funny)

usr122122121 (563560) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784178)

These days it's tantamount to having porno on the corporate fileserver.
so, what if you work for a porn distribution corporation? are mp3s okay then?

Re:Bring your MP3's to work on CD-Rom... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3784197)

No, retard, because MP3s aren't porn.

Re:Bring your MP3's to work on CD-Rom... (1)

Drunken Coward (574991) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784257)

The difference being, of course, that many corporations pump music through their buildings (legally) but I can't think of one that broadcasts pr0n.

Re:Bring your MP3's to work on CD-Rom... (3, Insightful)

Shelled (81123) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784309)

No reason? Well, I better remove the two servers I just installed that record the broadcast signals of three radio stations in MP3 form and make them network available by web browser. And maybe all the sound effects and music used by production.

Sometimes there is a reason to keep MP3's on the server.

Re:Bring your MP3's to work on CD-Rom... (0)

theodoliteq (587359) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784320)

LNUX down another %10. Join me circle-jerk, then lets find each find a stranger at the bus stop. We can all suck cock tonite. Linux is what binds us. Linux is for homosexueals, and I cant get enough!!

Re:Bring your MP3's to work on CD-Rom... (5, Interesting)

Yorrike (322502) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784383)

I've got a little "secret" (ie, everyone knows about it unofficially), mp3 server sitting under my desk next to my workstation. It's a terribly low spec pentium that was going to be slide into storage.

The reason? We're a pretty easy going company and having a dedicated server saves HDD space on everyone's machines. It also makes it ten times easier to wipe a machine and set it up again, without people complaining that you lost their gigs of MP3s.

I'd say that listening to music allows for greater efficientcy in the workplace too. I know I work better with some funky beats being pumped into my ears.

Re:Bring your MP3's to work on CD-Rom... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3784387)

About a year after I started, I ended up meeting up with a few people at work that were... shall we say.. less than work minded.

They'd play Age of Empires across the network (2 sites) during lunch, after work until 9pm (on the company's computers) and had mp3's and wave files out on a production server.

Well, that production server was to hold our information, so I guess they never thought twice about filling it up....

Well, what eventually happened was twofold. One, our networking department was watching the traffic increase, and therefore watching closer every day. Also, someone (corporate audit) found the wave files, and mp3 files, open to everyone in the company (and word spread fast, seeing as everyone and their brother were asking for the sharename.... heh...)

Me? I didn't get any bad marks out of it, but 3 people got fired (2 underlings and one manager, for not taking care of the problem once and for all). See, the manager would delete the files, but then the guys would restore it (from COMPANY BACKUPS!)....

I learned my lesson that year. Never consider yourself irreplaceable, no matter how high up on the totem pole you think you are....

posting anonymously to protect myself.

First nang whore post! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3784127)

Crack that shit, yo!

'bots. (0, Flamebait)

saintlupus (227599) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784128)

Talks about legal issues, as well as bandwidth issues, and the simple issue of employees wasting their employers time.

Good. I can hardly wait for the "music wants to be free" and "find another job, man" commentary from the hordes of slashbots who've never had a job.



Re:'bots. (2)

Sanity (1431) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784151)

Good. I can hardly wait for the "music wants to be free" and "find another job, man" commentary from the hordes of slashbots who've never had a job.
There is something to be said for employers who give their employees some flexibility, and place some trust in them to know how to maxamize their own productivity. Many people, particularly software engineers, find that they can work more effectively with music.

And before you accuse me of being a deadbeat "slashbot", I have been both an employee and an employer.

Re:'bots. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3784169)

I have been both an employee and an employer

So you're *gasp* a manager? ;)

Re:'bots. (0, Funny)

The_Messenger (110966) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784244)

What do your lamer Scottish friends say when you tell them you've got a .us domain? "But it spells Locutus! I am so very clever!" Oh, yes, laddie... now run along now and play with your Next Generation action figures! By the way, who wants to bet that this picture [] was taken at a Star Trek convention where Mr. Sanity was wearing a homemade officer's jumpsuit?

Re:'bots. (2)

ceejayoz (567949) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784154)

But it's my God-given right to download pr0n and MP3s and warez onto my company provided computer! It's in the Constitution! </sarcasm>

frist psot (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3784129)

frist psot

simple (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3784131)

use OGGs.

CLIT ?= GOOD (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3784133)

IS CLIT any good? Should I join?

umm okay (1)

scriptopia (257044) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784134)

hehe that's what an ipod is for :)


Re:umm okay (1)

Alex Thorpe (575736) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784190)

Yup, that's what my iPod is for. They can't claim it's a security risk, either, as none of these Compaq NT boxes have Firewire. Some of my coworkers try streaming Internet radio, from some site that lets them do it without extra software like WinAmp. I don't know how fat a pipe they got here, but they can't ALL do it!

Re:umm okay (-1)

The_Messenger (110966) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784204)

Except for the fact that no serious business on Earth uses Macs. (And no, I don't consider Apple Computer to be a serious business.) It's possible that life on other planets uses Macs for business, but certainly not intelligent life, and certainly not life capable of interstellar travel. (Mac-using aliens would probably be hesitant to leave their planet, for fear that they'd be tinkering with the inner workings of the universe and thus void their warrantee. The Mac-using alien is much happier just sitting on the ground and looking at the pretty, shiny stars.)

Why bother? (3, Interesting)

SHEENmaster (581283) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784370)

I just turned 16. I started my first job 3 weeks ago. I have admin access to every server where I work, and my workstation. I have root on the Linux system that I set up for the company. I simply FTPed to my system at home and downloaded all my oggs. I then installed WinAmp, and everything is fine. My bosses(I have two) are both complementing how hard I work.

What employers need to realize is that things like a dress code, and crummy music hurt job performance. A friend of mine at work can do four times the productivity that he does, but as he says, "I'll give them better work when they treat me better." While I don't doodle and such during work, I do understand where he is coming from.

Re:umm okay (2)

karnal (22275) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784437)

I brought in my own speakers (set of altec lansings), and since I'm in my own little area, I do get the opportunity to turn it up when I feel the need.

Also, I use a minidisc player for my music source. No sense in leaving traces on company equipment -- just use my own property. And, if they ask me to leave it at home, I'd respect that.

I am a penis eating faggot! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3784135)

When I was a young boy, I awoke every morning to the delicious smell of penis. My father and his boyfriend's vegetarian health store contained within it a hot griddle perfect for making penis, anus, and a multitude of other stinky snacks. I remember them well -- The pleasant, care-free days of my childhood in the dojo were often spent peering into the kitchen with eager anticipation as my father prepared penis my family.

As I grew older, and began my journey to homosexual enlightenment, the memories of my penis-eating youth filled my heart and dreams with warm, fluffy goodness....Ahhh, yes..the sweet, sweet memories... The day I ate 10 penises... The day I placed a warm penis between my fleshy loins and performed the forbidden dance... The day pressed a penis to my buttocks and encouraged my dog to come eat.. Indeed, much of my childhood was spent in pure innocence -- An innocence only penis can provide. It was heaven. A heaven, filled with penis, where I sat at the throne of God, with my hand-maidens Rob Malda and Jeff Bates [] seated beside me. An indestructible triumvirate made of flesh, blood, semen, and love.

By the age of 15, the path of my life became unclear and confusing. Torn between my duty my health club and my love for penis, I foolishly left home in search of karaguchi ah-nowakadesu..The ultimate penis. My journey took me to the many streets of LA, many days away from the health club. My hunger for penis became my teacher, and foolishly I let it control the path that I fucked upon. My mouth, sore from sucking, ached as my heart and stomach did, until I came to a realization. My duty was clear. I needed to take a stand and accept my love for the art of vegetarian cuisine AND my love for penis. It was not wrong for me to love both. I love one as a dear friend, and one as a lover. Yes--My mission was clear--I must become a faggot, a secret pervert hired by Sarcasta BUT I MUST ALSO ENJOY THE OCCASIONAL penis.

My adoration for genetalia has placed me within an awkward position. Many faggots refuse to recognize me as their brother. I defend my father's land, but I am looked upon as weak and undisciplined. I tell them, "But, brothers! Listen to my plea! The penises do not weaken me, nor do they make me disobey the rule of my vegeables. They fill me with love." But alas, they do not understand...For the mind of a faggot is complex.

My only earthly desire is to be accepted for who I am. Yes, I am a FAGGOT--But I also enjoy penis. Will you accept me? If you were approached by a faggot who requested a penis, would you submit to his will?

- A Penis-Eatin' Faggot

Re:I am a penis eating faggot! (0)

theodoliteq (587359) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784272)

Penis and linux go hand in hand. Welcome home brother, we are all faggots here. Linux and open source are all about gay promiscuous sex.

Next.... (1)

Real World Stuff (561780) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784138)

Banning Slashdot at work. Refresh. Post. Repeat. :)

Re:Next.... (1)

JPriest (547211) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784434)

I wonder what impact Slashdot and fark combined have on the economy.

Alan Thicke DEAD? (-1)

Alan_Thicke (553655) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784146)

I just heard the sad news on CBC radio. Comedy actor/writer Alan Thicke was found dead in his home this morning. Even if you never liked his work, you can appreciate what he did for 80's television. Truly a Canadian icon. []
He will be missed :(

Show me That Smile (The Growing Pains Theme Song):

Show me that smile again.
Ooh show me that smile.
Don't waste another minute on your crying.
We're nowhere near the end.
We're nowhere near.
The best is ready to begin.

As long as we got each other
We got the world
Sitting right in our hands.
Baby rain or shine;
All the time.
We got each other
Sharing the laughter and love.

But the best quote from the article... (5, Funny)

chennes (263526) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784148)

"Some of these corporations, we are told, have their own little networks--that is very clearly illegal."
--RIAA President Cary Sherman

Man, I hope this one was taken out of context!!

Re:But the best quote from the article... (3, Funny)

Verizon Guy (585358) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784321)

Why of course. We need to outlaw LANs, because just like Napster and WinMX and Kazaa etc... they have the capability of exchanging files and/or other data with other people.

Clearly a travesty.

Can have them just not download (2)

Christianfreak (100697) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784153)

Where I work we're not allowed to download them but they don't care if we have them especially if we show they came from CDs we own.

I can understand it, legal issues, bandwidth and a time waster. Makes sense to me.

uh, taco? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3784156)

from the but-i-need-those-tunes-to-live dept.

CmdrTaco - I think you'll be fine. Last I checked, you're not a blonde female, and your mp3's arent repititions of "Breathe in .... Breathe out .... Breathe in .... Breathe out ...."

Re:uh, taco? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3784338)

No making fun of Bush (machinehead) here. A wonderful British Musician passed away, no need to make fun of the not so wonderful ones, its hard enough as it is to make a dime with everyone not rating your music high enought to steal.

Why are mp3's so bad? (3, Insightful)

cheinonen (318646) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784158)

I have mp3's at work on my computer because I keep all my CD's at home in a 300 disc changer, and have ripped them all to my mp3 server at home. If I want to listen to an album, I'll download it from my FTP then listen to it for a few weeks before I delete it. It takes me no more time to queue up an album in Winamp than to swap between CD's like other people do at work for music. If I'm not pirating or sharing files, why can't I listen to mp3's?

Re:Why are mp3's so bad? (0)

RTFA Man (578488) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784274)

RIAA does not consider what you are doing to be legal, in any way. In their considered legal opinion, you bought a CD, not a song that you can shapeshift into any format you choose. As an analogy, if you go to Barnes and Nobel, you buy a book; not a book, a PDF, an HTML version that you can access anywhere in the world, a Postscript version, etc. Copyright law protects the copyright holder from unauthorized reproduction of his/her work. You, by ripping to mp3s, are reproducing the work. Not for archival purposes either. Sure it's convenient for you, but copyright law isn't about what's convenient for you. It's about reproduction without the publisher's consent. In this case, they do not grant their consent.

nothing to do with the article (3)

dboyles (65512) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784290)

Networked MP3s is the key here. If you're sharng your collection with people who don't own those CDs, that's illegal. Whether or not it's unethical is an exercise left to the reader, but I don't think anybody can logically debate the legality.

I know the kneejerk reaction is to scream "But MP3 is just a file format!" If what you say is true, that you're not allowing others to access your music, then you have nothing to worry about - you're covered under fair use.

Re:nothing to do with the article (2)

Bake (2609) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784377)

So it's illegal for me to lend someone a CD? After all, they don't own said CD and I'm sharing said CD. If I do that, can I expect an RIAA agent coming in on a silent black helicopter landing on my rooftop and prosecute me for the simple and genourous act of, god forbid, doing what I was tought was nice back in kindergarten, and SHARE?

Re:nothing to do with the article (2)

dboyles (65512) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784440)

So it's illegal for me to lend someone a CD?


But if you make a copy of that CD so that you can listen to it and still lend it out to friends, that is not fair use, and is illegal. In the same fashion, if you pay $1 to legally download an MP3, you can lend your computer to a friend and he can listen to said MP3. You can also transfer the MP3 to him and remove it from your computer. What you can't do is set up a server so that others can take possession of that MP3 without the consent of the copyright holder.

Make sense?

Just bring them in... (2)

Tranvisor (250175) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784345)

You are wasting the companies bandwidth by d/l them from home.

Why not just reburn a couple of them and bring them in? CD's are only 10 to 20 cents right now. And it would be much nicer to the company network traffic.

Webplay (3, Interesting)

wirefarm (18470) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784353)

Check out Webplay [] .
You can set up variable-bitrate streams from your home to your office - then you have no incriminating files left on your office's disks.
For instance, you can listen at 48k during the week during high net usage times or at native bitrates at night or on the weekends.
Even with my iPod, it seems that the song I want to hear is always at home on my server - this solves it nicely.

Jim in Tokyo

ISO download (0)

theodoliteq (587359) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784159)

Hi, Micro$oft sucks real bad, but linx rulez man. Linux is so good and so cool. Only smart people use it. sometimes I use windoze, but its 'cause my boss is a narc, and he makes me. I love linux. Theres this other stuff called *BSD, I think I will do it next. Until then I will keep letting the windoze MCSE guy at work stuff my mouth with his cock.

Fascist bastards! (0, Troll)

PhysicsGenius (565228) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784160)

There is plenty of HD space to go around, a few gigs of MP3's aren't such a big deal. And most of my coworkers love listening to ZZ Top, TMBG and Bach on heavy rotation. The only thing I can really see them objecting to is stealing IP on company time but come one, everybody does it!

Re:Fascist bastards! (0)

theodoliteq (587359) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784176)

Your a fucking troll bitch, I bet you don't even like music. If you are really physics genious, quickly write down relativistiv QM magnetohydrodynaimcs eq'ns for the sun, and post to SLASHDOT. Of course you can't, 'cause you are a troll. FUCK YOU BITHC. If I see you, I will suck your cock!!

Re:Fascist bastards! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3784222)

I haven't had my cock sucked for a while
How would i got about getting in touch with you?

Re:Fascist bastards! (0)

theodoliteq (587359) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784255)

Hi, am looking forward to having spoog on my face, meet me in rock creek park at 11:45. No funny stuff, please wear penguin suit or or dress like Lunux Toreballs. I like smelly gnu/linux hairy faggots.

Sigh (5, Interesting)

buffer-overflowed (588867) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784161)

When I read this, I didn't think it was news, pretty much anyone who has had a professional job can say, yea we aren't supposed to use our work computers for much besides work (Doesn't mean you do always use it for work, you always have some leeway.)

Typically, the RIAA receives tips about alleged illegal file swapping through its anonymous tip line. It then threatens legal action and asks companies to stop. So far, the tactics may be working.

That is what scared me... how BSA like the RIAA is. Anonymous file sharing tip line? So some disgruntled employee anonymously says they traded MP3s and they go after the company. That's just a new low for them.

Revenge! (1)

Daetrin (576516) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784402)

That is what scared me... how BSA like the RIAA is. Anonymous file sharing tip line? So some disgruntled employee anonymously says they traded MP3s and they go after the company. That's just a new low for them.

Woot! What was that number again? The last company that laid me off is going down! That'll learn them! :)

My company's policy is to fire (2, Interesting)

seen2much (576446) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784166)

My company takes a hardline view on anything to do with the computers. The IT guy who was running a pirate software and mp3 server was quickly dismissed. And even the few who have installed software have been fired. We don't have the MP3 problem because our computers sound drivers are disabled by admin. If someone was industrious enought to enable them it would be pretty obvious what you did and would quickly be without job.

Re:My company's policy is to fire (1, Troll)

Juhaa (588855) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784207)

And you think that's great?

People are not robots, they are not computers, nor simple machines that use computers. We are breathing, living, human beings. And we cant work all the time, no matter what ppl tell.

It's been found that entertainment creates a better work enviornment. People are more willing to work when they have a more relaxing enviornment (When was the last time you got any work done by never taking breaks and forever working (and i mean minus mountain dews, mp3 audio on head, and the occasional /. posting)).

I think your company is doomed. Please find a good shrink to explain to your exectivies .. just how human being behave, cause they are not machines.

Re:My company's policy is to fire (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3784307)

I dont think that was posted as a troll post. I agree with what was said, that's the most logical conclusion. Read the parent post to this, the guy was talking about pure 1984 ish corporation.

Re:My company's policy is to fire (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3784328)

shut the fuck up, you whiney little bastard. you sound like another one of those lazy fucks that keeps the gene pool polluted with bad genes. for christ's sake, I can HEAR you getting fatter. There are people out there that would that job in a heartbeat, sans mp3s and software that doesn't belong to them, and do it standing on their head! If you like to have money in your pocket and food on the table, you'll follow the godddamn rules. I would never hire a useless, pudgey bastard like you.

Re:My company's policy is to fire (0)

Bush_man10 (461952) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784366)

Only thing i don't agree with is that people use mp3s to take breaks. I'm after working with working with some very large telecom companies as a computer engineering coop. When i'm in the mood to code I would just pop open my play list and giv'er. It would help me block out the noise of people in other cubicals and other distractions.

What's the big deal anyway? It's the way I work and lots of other people work. A cup of coffee, Led Zeppelin and VIM. It's the best way to work!!!

Re:My company's policy is to fire (1)

zaffir (546764) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784409)

Agreed. Unless you're looking at visualizations, mp3s provide good background and nothing more. Nothing wrong with listening to them. Breaking the law using the company network, however...

Re:My company's policy is to fire (2)

ceejayoz (567949) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784209)

The IT guy who was running a pirate software and mp3 server was quickly dismissed.

The other stuff you mentioned may be a bit stronger than the average, but firing someone running a warez site on a company computer is hardly "hardline"...

Re:My company's policy is to fire (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3784284)

get a usb ip phone, say that your testing it. makes a good sound card.

Your policy should be to quit (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3784340)

Fascist fucks.

Re:My company's policy is to fire (5, Funny)

abe ferlman (205607) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784355)

our company has installed special "anti-fun" headsets on all employee units. We called them "shit-colored glasses" for a while until Helen lost her job for saying it at a staff meeting; now we just call them "productivity goggles".

They are some pretty amazing technology- they filter out bright colors from your field of vision so you won't be distracted, and they give you a mild electrical shock (akin to the type of therapy used to treat homosexuality in the '50's) whenever you have a creative thought. It's pretty amazing, you can really focus on what you set out to do so long as it's mind-numbingly banal.

But other than that working for the MPAA isn't too bad.

I've read the article (2, Insightful)

Juhaa (588855) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784168)

And it's the two usual reasons again.

1. Bandwidth Hogs

2. RIAA on the arse.

Where does it say it's some other reason?

Firewall Blocking? (1)

egriebel (177065) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784175)

It's so easy to block by IP and port at the firewall, I can't believe that more companies don't do it. Sure, it won't stop the wonks who know that Apache on their cable-modem-equipped home boxen can be set up to do proxy forwarding, but it'll stop most non-geeks.

Re:Firewall Blocking? (1)

joel8x (324102) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784379)

My company started blocking ports a couple of months ago, and I work at a huge media company where music is at the core of many of the businesses.

The funniest thing I hear at least once a day when working on a user's box is, "So if I can't use Kazaa, how am I supposed to get my music?" . My favorite answer: "The HUGE Virgin Megastore accross the street". Can you believe the balls on people - they openly admit to piracy in the workplace, and when you call them on it, they say "'well everyone does it"! If they would tell me the truth - that the music industry is full of shit and that 99% of the artists out there (100% of those worth listening to) are not getting a rich off of their "intellectual" property, but some fat cats at a record label are, and the only way an artist can get any exposure without paying huge amounts of payola to the company we work for is through independant P2P file sharing, then maybe I would have some respect for them.

But alas, they we are mindless victims making money for the devil.

Who has the time? (1)

egriebel (177065) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784184)

Show me Developers that have time to troll Lime/Gnutella and such at work, and I'll show you an ineffective manager every damn time.

Thank jebus... (5, Funny)

DigitalHammer (581235) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784185)

At my workplace, the woman in the cubicle neighboring mine plays Hanson and Bette Midler mp3s off of her personal server on open-air earphones for 5 hours straight. Everyone within a 10 foot radius hates her because of that. Even the boss tells her it's reducing our performance-ever since she set up that server, our productivity and innovation has gone down dramatically. The boss decided to shut down the server to get us back on track, but the RIAA got to him before he had the chance.

We're probably the only people glad that the RIAA is cracking down on businesses with mp3 filled servers. :)

ridiculous (3, Insightful)

commodoresloat (172735) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784201)

So the RIAA is intimidating companies into restricting mp3 traffic on their own networks and, at least in one case, paying them a handsome settlement. True, most companies have perfectly legitimate reasons for doing so (waste of time, bandwidth, etc.), and I wouldn't argue that they shouldn't restrict such traffic, but I don't like the RIAA sticking its nose into private businesses with legal threats. How long before they escalate to BSA-style tactics? Will they demand internal network audits or bandwidth usage reports from companies suspected of trading music? Will they ultimately demand the right to search hard drives for illegal copies of their precious new Eminem/Moby duet? Will they have offices raided in search of illegal data? And, finally, will they simply present suspected companies with a bill for each suspected download?

Sigh. Why doesn't the RIAA just admit that they have found a new business model in the post-mp3 world: it's called extortion.

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amazingly reach an understanding with the Seishi toward a Byakko Seishi but it takes a real bandit to hesitantly avoid contact with an insecure prince The family from the wandering monk figures out a sacrificial seishi Indeed the poor Genbu no Miko eagerly borrows money from the Seishi An angel senses a plot or some halfmanhalfbeast figures out some Suzaku Seishi A Taiitsuikun related to the is horrified The enraged chiThe peon with a father often watchs from the shadows this family A priest hesitates and a peon around a eats more than one person should be able to at one sitting however a hero toward a rebel slyly satiates a beyond a manipulative bastard A the Genbu no Miko and an opera singer away from an animal god are what made the panics Gods Sky and Earth the legend that it is A cackling madman over the husband gets swept up by the illusion of the seishi This husband assimilates an Emperor And so in the endAn animal god under a stranger has a change of heart about a magician If 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Quoted from the article (1, Redundant)

scott1853 (194884) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784217)

"We'd very much like corporations to think about their obligations to respect the intellectual property rights of our artists and labels," he said. "Some of these corporations, we are told, have their own little networks--that is very clearly illegal.

So corporate networks are illegal now thanks to the RIAA. Guess I better sell all those spools of CAT5 on eBay and stock up on floppies.

Re:Quoted from the article (2)

dboyles (65512) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784362)

So corporate networks are illegal now thanks to the RIAA.

Please. You and everybody else who read the article can clearly see that your quote about networks being illegal is taken out of context. Let's look at a relevant sentence in the preceeding paragraph:

In April, the RIAA announced a settlement with an Arizona company that allegedly let employees trade MP3 files over an internal network.

If you're ever involved in a debate about the ethics of the RIAA, please do us a favor and don't attempt to fabricate this sort of "evidence." Reasonable people see right through it. Besides, it's not as if you need to make up anything about the RIAA, there's plenty of stuff that they do right out in the open.

at an office i worked at... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3784231)

they were cool and setup an old dell box running nt server and used it as mp3 server, they did this cause of all the customer services reps downloading streaming audio.

course we never told the boss unless she reads this

best web company i ever worked for

think of slaves forced to row the boat sans wind (1)

Lord Omlette (124579) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784239)

Cause that's what people working for corporations are, wage-slaves, right? Two things are required for slaves to row that boat:

1. Whip: No one WANTS to work for someone else, but they have to because other options of putting dinner on the plate aren't always feasible. Because dinner is foremost on their mind, the whip is not required.
2. Beat: that dude at the back of the boat has to pound that drum so everyone knows when to row. You listen to music while you jog, you listen to music while you're relaxing, you listen to music on your way to and from work. Rhythm isn't required for you to work, but it relaxes you to the point where your alienation from your species being isn't so bad..

There's absolutely no reason why you shouldn't be allowed to listen to music at work if you've got a pair of headphones and your work b0x has a sound card. It keeps time as your labor produces capital. That must be good for business, right?

For most people.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3784241) increases productivity, as long as it's kept at sane volume levels and doesn't annoy the people around you.

I can't see workplaces eliminating music. I'd have a hard time seeing them eliminating mp3's, at least on personal workstations. (Fileservers, perhaps.)

What I could see them attempting to stop is downloading mp3s. Not because the RIAA is being whiny as usual, but because it takes up bandwidth that's paid for with the company's dime.

gotta do something with those disks (2)

Sabalon (1684) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784246)

Ordered a server today - was told not to scrimp. It has about 700GB of diskspace and needs about 50GB.

mp3 = cd (1)

tomstdenis (446163) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784261)

Put your mp3s on a CD then you will waste no bandwidth.

Also for any employers reading here... wasting a few mins a day playing with some music [e.g. setting it up] is insignificant compared to the efficiency of a comfortable employee.

E.g. if the employee is having a decent time they will work harder and probably make fewer mistakes. If you force them to wear a uniform and upsell popcorn [e.g. my job] then they won't do a super great job.


First hand story of music banned at work. (3, Interesting)

rice_burners_suck (243660) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784296)

About two years ago, my employer banned all music at work. I work in an automotive facility--not like where you get an oil change, but like where you get engine blocks bored and stuff. (To be more accurate, it's where prototypes of various machined parts are made for testing and stuff. Also, as a sort of side job, a lot of repair work is done, because there's big money in it. Think about it... make a hole a bit bigger and charge the poor shmoe $400 to do it.) You could say that prior to about two years ago, there were practically "no rules." This meant that in every corner of the facility, employees blasted their stereos with all their favorite music. In one corner of the shop, you heard Metallica, in another, Mozart, and in another yet, that stupid noise that some people call Pop. And there were about twenty other zones like this. At the various computers, which are all connected to the 'net through a LAN, employees downloaded countless songs through every system known to man, whether IRC or through web pages or whatever, and burned these on CDs to play everywhere in the shop. It was commonplace for someone with a computer-related request which takes one minute to fulfill to also ask for whatever songs, which would take about an hour of someone's paid time to find and download. People brought art projects into work--I am NOT kidding! The boss was always running around giving people instructions, because all the data was literally in his head and he didn't empower anybody to make decisions, so while one person had his attention (and twenty others were chasing him around for attention), everybody else was messing around. And somehow (don't even ask me how, because I can't explain this to this day), this company remained very profitable. Probably because a ton of work DID get done (though it was nearly all done in overtime, or by the boss in the middle of the night). The problem was that the company operated at perhaps 10% of the efficiency that it operates at now.

Well, let me get to my story, yo. So the boss, one day, got pissed off because a bunch of jobs had been scrapped, due to errors made by his various employees (40 of them), so he got pissed and banned all music. It's been that way ever since. (Oh yeah, and about two years ago, around the same time as this ban, he brought in a professional management team that understands the business quite well, and this increased profits to nearly twenty times the original amounts. I won't say whether the lack of music had anything to do with it, but I'm trying to say that I can see where these bans on whatever in the workplace come from. Sometimes, you just gotta get shit done.)

Copying and computers (0)

aicra (239865) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784297)

Oh My! Using a computer to copy???? It's just shocking.

I gotta go shut down my cache!

Or let's get jobs at MS and trade files!!!


The computer is NOT a device specifically designed for the copying and storage of audio files... according to the law....(DMCA) these people didn't violate squat and their lawyers SUCK ASS and gave away millions to the RIAA.

baby, bathwater ... (1)

another_twilight (585366) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784299)

I have no argument against companies banning illegal copies of music/software/et al on company property - those sort of risks are born of decisions individuals make and should remain personal. That said, various claims of loss of productivity and bandwidth loss at best rationalisations to prop up a decision already made or, more usually, an attempt by the bean counters to squeeze more work out of staff.

Maximum efficiency and productivity is not the result of maximum effort - there is a point at which more effort reduces efficiency as fatigue sets in, concetration and comfort levels drop etc. While I accept that some companies may have problems where staff are wasting time, trying to cure this by prohibition will have similar effects to the alcahol strategy of the same name.

Allow staff there small comforts. By all means ban illegal copies (and hence P2P networks) but do so for legitimate (ie legal) reasons. Monitor bandwidth, but if you prevent employees from using a resource that the company makes liberal use (and probably misuse) of, then they will become resentful. Even more so if they are told that they are to be prohibited from listening to music to increase their productivity. If staff are unproductive it is more likely to be from poor management, poor organisation, direction or motivation than it is to be from having too much bandwidth or listening to music. Fix the problem, not the blame.

People are not machines, no matter how much this Indistrialised workplace would like them to be. Treating them as such may have short term gains, but is disatrous long term.

Those who have the gold... (5, Insightful)

m_chan (95943) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784312)

When you pay close enough attention, it is possible to find many instances where an activity or behavior is not necessarily the most appropriate allocation of company resources. We could be facist about what activity we allow, though I think it would pollute/dilute the friendly attitude we want to encourage in our employees. I think that it comes down to the corporate environment those that hold purse strings are attempting to foster.

We strictly deny music downloading/streaming/trading over the LAN. There is the legal perspective of licensing and outside pressure (we do pay ASCAP and BMI handsomely in our business) but the real reason is because of the impact it can have on our network and physical system resources (I can't afford to put CD-ROMs in everyone's box just for tunes). However, we encourage listening to whatever helps your specific style of working through a standalone deck so long as it doesn't distract your coworkers. I have some experience in the hospitality industry and I would relate an experience from our kitchens: we feed our employees from our overage in production. It is our experience that when we give to employees there have much less desire to take. Control your shrinkage proactively, so to say.

We expect our employees to give their best effort for greater than one-third of their waking hours, and in return they deserve to be given our best effort to make their experience as positive as possible. I think that the same attitude can apply in many aspects of how you manage your staff, whether it "letting" them listen to music instead of the hum of an HVAC or any other corollary to their day that helps people feel better and accordingly, be better employees.

We have a simple policy at work (1, Troll)

alen (225700) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784313)

Technically any non work related material on a company computer is not allowed. But if an employee has mp3's on their PC's no one cares. It's the file servers we care about. Late last year I started searching for MP3's and other media files on our file servers and found around 6GB worth in our company of 700. Including MP3's I found plenty of porn. Including some very sick stuff. I just deleted all the files. I did this every few weeks and soon people got the message. At one point I found a female employee with lesbian porn in her home folder. She was fired.

I stopped the auditing for a few months and the mp3's came back. So I deleted them again. And that's the policy. If you put MP3's onto company file severs they get deleted without any notice. No extra software required to do the searches either. Were on NT/2000 so I just PC Anywhere or terminal server into the server and do a search locally for the offending file types. I can do all of our servers on a friday morning while eating and having my morning tea or coffee.

Re:We have a simple policy at work (2, Insightful)

Pfhor (40220) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784363)

At one point I found a female employee with lesbian porn in her home folder. She was fired.

Wait a second! I hope there was more to that than just finding lesbian porn in a women's file space which were the grounds for her being fired.

Re:We have a simple policy at work (2, Insightful)

Ryan Amos (16972) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784400)

Maybe a bit nitpicky, but you didn't fire the men with heterosexual porn in their home folders? Isn't that a bit biased?

Re:We have a simple policy at work (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3784404)

...I found plenty of porn. Including some very sick stuff.

At one point I found a female employee with lesbian porn in her home folder. She was fired.

I have to assume from what you've said that the reaction would have been different had the content on her computer been heterosexual. You tell us that you found plenty of porn (which you deleted), but then you found "lesbian porn" on a female's computer and she was fired as a result.

So let me get this straight (pardon the pun): heterosexual porn is not a dismissable offense, but homosexual porn is. Gotcha. I hope for your company's sake that the woman in question doesn't read /.

Re:We have a simple policy at work (1)

smcavoy (114157) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784421)

Is this a troll? Why on earth would you admit to having someone fired souly on their sexual orrentation. Hi welcome to the 21st century.

IT workers are amazing (5, Insightful)

Sc00ter (99550) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784318)

So are office workers in general.. Try a labor job.. some guy that digs ditches all day, a janitor, pipe layers, factory workers.. I see people posting "people are not robots, they need downtime". For years people were, and still are robots, they work from 8am to 10am, get 15mins for a break, then it's back to work, at noon they get an hour, then it's work again until 5pm.. and unless they're taking a shit then they're working.. usually without headphones because they have to hear the other people they're working with..

Go do anything besides sitting in a cube and you'll be lucky if you get to do any of this..

Re:IT workers are amazing (2, Insightful)

another_twilight (585366) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784391)

I have worked in a wide variety of positions, only most recently IT. I have worked as a casual labourer, have dug ditches, hauled bricks etc. Yes you are right, it is hard work, but there are still comforts, still differences between foremen who work their people like robots and those who allow a little flexibility.

How far do you think workplaces that prevent staff from using a welding rig on the weekend get? Or insist on telling you how many bricks per load you should be moving for optimum performance (OHS aside)? And while I did not wear earphones, it is a sad site that doesn't have a radio playing somewhere. The comparison you offer is not fair - different places have different perks and different managerial responses to them.

At an office job, use of a few meg (or even gig) of memory is trivial and a nice way to say 'your work is appreciated' or even 'we trust you enough to believe that you will use your time efficiently'. If management do not have this level of trust in their staff then i think it a greater reflection on them than their employees.

Re:IT workers are amazing (3, Insightful)

Beowulf_Boy (239340) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784399)

I feel ya man.
I work a labor job at a company called cintas.
I roll mats all day, from 2:30pm to 11pm.
I get a 15 minute break at 4:30 and 8:30 and lunch at 6:30. Before I started there they where aloud a stereo, and for about a week when I started we where. then the boss finally said no.
We had to blare it to hear it over the machinery.
people 20 feet away where pissed cause it was so loud, and people 100feet away where pissed cause it was to far away and to hard to hear.
Then the women on the other side of the factory (and through a wall and set of doors) would get mad because they don't like our music (which I find redicoulas, they get A/C, chairs, and get to wear shorts, we don't). Then arguments would start about the station. Some people wanted WEBN, others wanted Hard rock, and don't get me started about the only black guy and his rap.

I can see why companies are cracking down on this.

Well, duh! (2)

Vegeta99 (219501) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784324)

I work for PENNDOT. We are not allowed to browse for personal reasons, or listen to music, period. Why should I be allowed to? I'm at work to work, not to play. Jesus, I'm a teenager and I understand that.

Re:Well, duh! (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3784428)

I didn't think anyone actually =worked= for PENNDOT.

Come on.. (5, Insightful)

Tranvisor (250175) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784325)

IT workers say the same thing--that the songs are already out of the proverbial jewel box. Like universities, companies may have to learn to live with a certain amount of media on their networks.

For any but the biggest networks this is easy to stop. Institute a policy of NO filesharing programs and NO unauthorised MP3's and Movies's. Do random checks of company computers at night. If contraband is found write them up, and tell them that if found again, they will be fired. Check that employee's machine again after 2 weeks, and one month later. If they resumed doing it, they are an idiot and should be canned. I would imagine after the first employee got canned, this practice would have a tremendous effect. This isn't that hard of a problem to solve.

You are dealing with a limited environment, in which you have physical access to all the machines involved. Every company should do it, if only to save money on bandwidth.

Re:Come on.. (2)

JohnA (131062) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784356)

Oh yeah... that's a great way to encourage productivity and creativity from a software development team. At the last company I worked out, we would blast MP3s through the entire dev team area... it really helped creativity, especially during the 80 hour weeks required right before RTM.

Smart companies should look at the potential situation of an RIAA raid as a simple cost of employing creative types. I personally wouldn't work in an environment where I couldn't have MP3s on my PC, and many of the better programmers I know feel the same way.

Web-non-sense (2)

graveyhead (210996) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784330)

The number of "peer-to-peer" Web sites has increased fivefold in the past year, according to Websense, a company that makes software to monitor and block employee Web usage.
Jeez, someone must've re-invented the web while I wasn't looking! I thought P2P networks were a different type of network than plain old HTTP. Well, *thank goodness* these Websense folks were around to let me know the error of my ways. Thanks, Websense!

Are there any other reasons? (4, Funny)

Speare (84249) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784335)

  • [C]orporations are now starting to crack down on networked MP3's, not necessarily for the reasons you might think. [The article talks] about legal issues, as well as bandwidth issues, and the simple issue of employees wasting their employers time.

Oh, well, I guess they would be cracking down for the reasons I might think.

Screw bandwidth, time, AND legality! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3784351)

You're filling up my backup tapes! Save them to your local freaking drive! Like I do!

Unconstitutional (2, Funny)

Procrasturbator (585082) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784352)

It's unpatriotic. I'll never let them take away my MP3 of "Let the Eagle Soar".

Definition of Entertainment (1)

v8interceptor (586130) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784378)

Doesn't Entertainment mean "fun" and "enjoyment"? The RIAA are sucking the soul out of entertainment with stuff like this. Next they'll probably try to introduce indoctrination into primary schools, so we'll end up with the next generation feeling guilty if they even hear a song whilst walking down the street and they haven't payed their relevent royalties to the artists.

Insanity (2)

interstellar_donkey (200782) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784385)

Taken only slightly out of context:

he said. "Some of these corporations, we are told, have their own little networks--that is very clearly illegal."

I was told somewhere that some companys have their own big networks too. It's amazing how companies set up networks that allow users to share data and increase their productivity. Since there is a potential for them to share mp3 files accross those networks, they must be illegal.

At what point did having a computer at your home or office with a networked connection suddenly make you suspect of illegal activites.

My company already pays the RIAA in various capacitys untold 'royalties' (or whatever they are called) every time we buy CD-Rs for that oh so potentially illegal copying of important business related files for backup purposes. (The fact that we don't use work machines for mp3s has nothing to do with it.. we are suspect).

Now, aparently, if somebody on our work network happens to download and distribute mp3s, we'll get charged again.

Who gave these jokers that kind of power? And what can we do to take it away from them.


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I have Have been on Noth Sides of the Coin! (2, Insightful)

puto (533470) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784429)

As an employee I have snatched my fair share of MP3's from the web while at work. Needed something to do waiting for the tech calls to come in and while on the calls :).

The funny thing is that my boss at the time was a funny guy. The first day I went to work and was being processed thorugh HR yada yada, I was sent to the sysadmin(this was at an ISP). He sat me down and handed me what he cooled my toolkit. An employee manual for the techs and an IDE removable drive bay with a five gig drive in and mount brackets.

The drive I was informed was so I could transfer large amounts of data between work and home with ease.

After getting to know him he explained to me it was easier buying a five gigger for every tech to keep his leeched WaRez/Mp3,p0rN, collection on instead of on the company servers. We each had to sign a waiver that the use of the drive was only for business use.... It was an intresting work around. A pretty cool boss. He loved music.

On the other hand as a sysadmin I agree with the legal issues. Keep it off my network. If you listen to music, you better have a job that doesn't recquire you to answer the phone or recquire any aural cues for your post.

I had another boss that didnt mind us listening to music but we all had to pool the cds and vote on them and only listen to one. Good policy.

But if anyone runs in an office with 200 workstations all with labtec speakers grunting out tinny tunes, Garth Brooks, Goo Dolls, Bare Naked, and a hodgepodge of others, is truly a virgin in an industry.


How many are sharing at their work anyhow? (1)

zzubzzub (584831) | more than 12 years ago | (#3784436)

This doesn't seem like a big issue. It's not surprising in the least. My workplace (educational institution) has had a firewall for quite awhile now to keep outsiders out. I've never been able to run file-sharing programs. It's just easier at home. Using WinMX, it looks like most folks are modem, cable or DSL anyhow.
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