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Sony Hard Drive Recorder for Cars

CmdrTaco posted about 12 years ago | from the step-in-the-right-direction dept.

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blues5150 writes "Sony has introduced the Sony MEX-1HD. This is an in-dash CD/Receiver with a 10 giagbyte hardrive built in to rip CD's at 8X speed. It also has an auxilliary input that allows connection of an MP3 player, tape, MD player, and/or an optional Sony plug-and-play XM Satellite Radio tuner. The price is a little steep at $1,499.99, but it's still nice to see a major car audio manufacturer delivering what the public wants."

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253 comments

First post (-1)

Cubeman (530448) | about 12 years ago | (#3828354)

First post! I am a loser!

Re:First post (-1)

Adolf Hitroll (562418) | about 12 years ago | (#3828429)

Do this device allow the ripping of Sony's crippled CD ?

Neat (1)

SpatchMonkey (300000) | about 12 years ago | (#3828360)

That's pretty neat. Sounds like a bit of a fragile thing to be putting in a car though ..

Re:Neat (2, Interesting)

Matthaeus (156071) | about 12 years ago | (#3828376)

Not at all. http://www.mp3car.com

I run one of these systems myself. As long as you mount the hard drive properly (so that the heads swing on a vertical axis), there's not much problem.

Re:Neat (2)

CaseyB (1105) | about 12 years ago | (#3828527)

so that the heads swing on a vertical axis

I agree that the platters should be vertical, but wouldn't it be better to have the heads swing horizontally than vertically? (i.e. they "dangle" rather than move up and down against gravity and road vibration)

Re:Neat (1)

Megahurts (215296) | about 12 years ago | (#3828605)

mope. Sideward loads destroy bearings.

MP3 Car Players (0)

lordkuri (514498) | about 12 years ago | (#3828363)

I don't get it... Kazaa, WinMX, etc.. get sued all to hell, but these car audio makers market devices to rip mp3's and no one says a damn thing.

Kinda makes me wonder.

Re:MP3 Car Players (2)

SirSlud (67381) | about 12 years ago | (#3828374)

When Sony's in-dash mp3 player lets you bluetooth a song over to that guy in the lane next to you, I think you'll see the RIAA et al go after em.

It's not the ripping that bothers the RIAA (well, it does, but they dont have too much leverage here since ripping can be fair use), its the sharing that scares the shit outta them.

Re:MP3 Car Players (2, Funny)

user no. 590291 (590291) | about 12 years ago | (#3828401)

Imagine the ugly freeway pileups when the two cars tried to stay in range.

Re:MP3 Car Players (2)

SirSlud (67381) | about 12 years ago | (#3828503)

Kinda gives a new meaning to 'listening to speed metal'.

Re:MP3 Car Players (1)

ALecs (118703) | about 12 years ago | (#3828616)

And since the only way to get files in/out in MP3 format is Sony's "MagicGate" memory stick (the DRM version of the MemoryStick), copying shouldn't be a wory to the RIAA.

Re:MP3 Car Players (1)

SpatchMonkey (300000) | about 12 years ago | (#3828378)

The difference is this: If they let you trade music with other cars nearby, then they would probably get in trouble.

Which is a shame 'cos that would be really neat too.

Re:MP3 Car Players (0)

sirsex (550329) | about 12 years ago | (#3828466)

It's just a matter of time until Sony sues themselves :)

Re:MP3 Car Players (0)

jck9626 (578944) | about 12 years ago | (#3828595)

mod up parent, funny stuff!

Reason it works in cars (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3828482)

Put one of these in your Viper and you can outrun DMCA enforcement thugs in their boaty Crown Vics.

You're dumb. (2)

Wakko Warner (324) | about 12 years ago | (#3828572)

I don't get it... Kazaa, WinMX, etc.. get sued all to hell, but these car audio makers market devices to rip mp3's and no one says a damn thing.

Kinda makes me wonder.


It does? About what?

The fact is, Kazaa, WinMX, Napster, Scour, and Audiogalaxy (et al) specialized in profiteering through the exchange of misappropriated intellectual property. The format used just happened to be MP3.

Sony is profiting through the sale of legitimate hardware that allows the user to store copies of CDs (which he presumably owns) on a hard drive in his car. The format it stores them in just happens to be MP3.

I see absolutely no connection other than the fact that both things used MP3.

- A.P.

CLIT forever! (-1)

Ralph JewHater Nader (450769) | about 12 years ago | (#3828364)

First racist [jewwatch.com] post!

Re:CLIT forever! (-1)

Adolf Hitroll (562418) | about 12 years ago | (#3828579)

where were you my friend ?

a *little* steep? (1)

buzban (227721) | about 12 years ago | (#3828368)

10 gig ipod + car kit...a little of my time to make sure it has somewhere to sit...less than $600...

Re:a *little* steep? (1)

SpatchMonkey (300000) | about 12 years ago | (#3828396)

A little steep for you maybe, but for many people, the automation of ripping, the niceness of having it in your car radio slow, the convenience of having car radio style controls and the built in amplifier is worth the extra few hundred dollars.

Automated ripping? (1)

phriedom (561200) | about 12 years ago | (#3828545)

But I already ripped my entire collection once, over a 2 week period, plus hours of deleting songs I decided I didn't want, and making play lists. Now Sony wants me to do it again? Now if it had a USB or Firewire connection, that would be an entirely diffent story. But it doesn't because of course that would let me load "pirated" music.

Doesn't someone make a deck with a pull-out HDD that can be mounted in your desktop for loading up the music? That makes a whole lot more sense to me.

f1257 p057 (NT) (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3828370)

(NT means no text)

Re:f1257 p057 (NT) (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3828436)

Umm, but there is text in your post.

This post intentionally left blank.

How long (2, Insightful)

Paraplegic Vigilante (590364) | about 12 years ago | (#3828371)

do you think it would be before it got stolen in an average American city? A few months tops? A friend of mine just got her ~$500 car stereo stolen, and she's buying another one right now. I never understood why people would spend so much money on something like this. Guess I'm not a stereo enthusiast. :)

Re:How long (2)

Cryptnotic (154382) | about 12 years ago | (#3828395)

This is why you park your car in a garage. Garage at home, garage at work, bright, open monitored parking lot wherever you go out to dinner or whatever.

Re:How long (2)

Neil Watson (60859) | about 12 years ago | (#3828512)

Garage at home? You can't use that for storing a car. That's where people store their BBQs, bikes, hoses, workmates, saw horses, empties, garbage cans, non working appliances, non working cars, jacks, creeper, old shoes, pink flamingos, broken garden gnomes...

Do you want to put the garage sale business out of business?

Re:How long (1)

hendridm (302246) | about 12 years ago | (#3828533)

> Garage at home, garage at work, bright, open monitored parking lot wherever you go out to dinner or whatever.

I suppose I'll need to buy a second car for the circumstance where I cannot do this. I cannot afford an apartment with a garage, there are no garages within many miles of work (I also live in the country, so car-pooling and buses are tough), and I occasionally want to go to the mall and other places that aren't stereo safe.

Re:How long (1)

macdaddy357 (582412) | about 12 years ago | (#3828539)

But boxen is my second favorite sport! Second only to resslen

Your Sig (1, Offtopic)

hendridm (302246) | about 12 years ago | (#3828550)

> The plural of box is boxes. Anyone who uses the term boxen should not be taken seriously.

You may not like the term "boxen", but at least the people using it are doing it on purpose to be colorful. It amazes me that those who speak english for their entire lives still do not know the difference between "your" and "you're". THESE people should not be taken seriously.

Re:How long (2)

geekoid (135745) | about 12 years ago | (#3828457)

no, no your not.

I used to have top notch car stereo equipment, never had it stolen.

I did have my car doors stolen once, tho.

Re:How long (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3828585)

I never understood why people would spend so much money on something like this. Guess I'm not a stereo enthusiast. :)

You could always just steal one.

Sony, eh? (1)

Andorion (526481) | about 12 years ago | (#3828384)

I always wonder... is Sony Music [nandotimes.com] tearing their hair out, while Sony Electronics develops a way to copy music CDs?

-Berj

Re:Sony, eh? (1)

bsane (148894) | about 12 years ago | (#3828479)

Nah. This player is probably crippled in some way that they're not telling us. The only reason Sony Electronics fights for dominance of standards is so that Sony Music can corrupt them. If you're even half serious about boycotting the RIAA you should stop buying Sony Electronics.

Re:Sony, eh? (1)

Midnight Thunder (17205) | about 12 years ago | (#3828519)

Probably, but at the same time the hard-drive can be seen as cache, since I don't think it comes with anything to allow the data to be transfered off it, unless you do some hacking.

The last thing I want... (2, Funny)

Real World Stuff (561780) | about 12 years ago | (#3828386)

is some ass cruising down the road trying to eat, shave, apply makeup, talk on the phone, read a paper, AND rip MP3's.

No thanks.

Re:The last thing I want... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3828419)

"...trying to eat, shave, apply makeup..."

Shaving AND makeup? You must know some hairy women. Or drag queens.

Re:The last thing I want... (1)

macdaddy357 (582412) | about 12 years ago | (#3828559)

Drag queens? How un-PC. They are "actors."

The public? (5, Funny)

gmhowell (26755) | about 12 years ago | (#3828387)

Umm.. The public wants to rip CD's in their car?

Yeah, right.

And they thought it was bad for people to use cell phones...

No, this is for kids who drive the base model Civic, because the insurance would kill them if they (err, their parents) bought the Si. Now that they've added the coffee can exhaust, 300 pound wing (someone explain why you put a wing on the back of a FWD car that isn't set up in a way to break the rear loose) $800 worth of stickers, and $2000 worth of wheels/tires, the only thing left is some stereo.

Re:The public? (3, Funny)

SquadBoy (167263) | about 12 years ago | (#3828423)

You mean like
this [riceboypage.com] ?

Re:The public? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3828467)

The wings they put on their car (to make them look 'fast') are what actually slows the car down. they have no idea how to adjust a wing. My car has one, came with it, and it's a FWD. Then again, Accord Coupes look kinda dumb without one..

Re:The public? (1)

peterpi (585134) | about 12 years ago | (#3828474)

So what?! If that's what the public want, you bet Sony's gonna sell it! ;)

Re:The public? (2)

scott1853 (194884) | about 12 years ago | (#3828492)

Personally, I'd rather see a detachable hard drive with Firewire connector so I can just take it inside and hook it up to my PC and load it with songs. I really don't want to have to burn or dig up a hundred+ CDs just to get them into my car.

Besides, it's only 8x, that's still about 9 minutes per CD!

Re:The public? (2)

geekoid (135745) | about 12 years ago | (#3828508)

depends how they design the interface.
If the use just presses a button, and it rips there CD onto the HD, the public will love it. 10 gigs worth of music, and no cd's cluttering up my car? cool.

Re:The public? (2)

strictnein (318940) | about 12 years ago | (#3828534)

no, the public does not

A very small group of people who can afford the $1400 price tag do.

And as far as those wings being 300 pounds... come on now, most of them are fibre glass or aluminum, or plastic... they're no where near 300 pounds... I doubt if any of them weigh over 100 pounds.

Re:The public? (2)

mshiltonj (220311) | about 12 years ago | (#3828573)

Now that they've added the coffee can exhaust, 300 pound wing (someone explain why you put a wing on the back of a FWD car that isn't set up in a way to break the rear loose) $800 worth of stickers, and $2000 worth of wheels/tires, the only thing left is some stereo.


Don't forget neon lights under the car. And hydraulic lifts on the tires.. And 300 watt speakers in the bed of the pickup, also with hydraulic lifts.

*shakes head*

Not me (1)

wirefarm (18470) | about 12 years ago | (#3828586)

Not unless they have a mobile link to a freeCDDB-type database for the titles -
Who wants 2000 songs all unlabled?

Plus, once you rip them in the car, I doubt it would ever be possible to move them indoors.

Now what would be really cool is an in-car MP3 web server with wireless 802.xx networking in a kind of open mode. Stuck in traffic? Download the songs in the car next to yours!

"Officer, honest! I wasn't drag racing him - I was just trying to finish my Procul Harum download, but the light changed!"

No *that* would be cool...

Cheers,
Jim in Tokyo

RIAA Chase? (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3828390)

Great, when the RIAA comes calling, I can engage in a high-speed-chase while continuing to commit crimes.

Re:RIAA Chase? (2)

uncoveror (570620) | about 12 years ago | (#3828501)

Curiously enough, Sony is a member of the RIAA. They don't have a problem with developing this unit, because it is part of their pay-for-play radio scheme. [uncoveror.com]

User Interface (1)

wmabey (164607) | about 12 years ago | (#3828398)

The trick to these sort of devices is how you pick the song you want to play. I know it's a pain to do this with my Apex DVD/MP3 player in my home theatre; the thought of trying to do this while driving a car and looking at a tiny LCD screen seems a little challenging.

I wouldn't want my insurance agent to know I had one in my car.

Voice Recognition (1)

SpatchMonkey (300000) | about 12 years ago | (#3828415)

This would be an excellent application of voice recognition technologies.

Or heads up display (1)

Maledictus (52013) | about 12 years ago | (#3828517)

'bout time we had what fighter pilots have...

Coming soon to a car wreck near you... (1)

stirfry714 (410701) | about 12 years ago | (#3828402)

Just what we need... more gadgets to distract the guy in the lane next to me.

Some of you can wish for the day that Bluetooth lets you swap files with the guy in the lane next to you. I'd prefer we both concentrate on driving, so we won't have to be swapping insurance company information on the shoulder of the highway.

Re:Coming soon to a car wreck near you... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3828513)

Won't be necessary to swap insurance information on the side of the highway. With a few additional lines of code, an XML DTD for insurance information . . .

Re:Coming soon to a car wreck near you... (1)

stirfry714 (410701) | about 12 years ago | (#3828592)

I stand corrected. :)

Do you think we can set up something so you can swap information with the cute girl in the Beetle in the next lane, who you *know* you will never see again?

Of course, it would have to be some sort of broadcast system or at best semi-directional, so the burly guy in the semi in the next lane might get the wrong sort of idea.... hmmm...

Platter crash? (3, Insightful)

Your_Mom (94238) | about 12 years ago | (#3828405)

While this thing sounds cool and all, what happens when I drive down a dirt road? My shocks don't absorb the bumps and such so well and I can just picture the ceramic head of the hard drive being ground into microscopic dust...

Thanks, I'll pass for now.

I'm confused (3, Interesting)

adam613 (449819) | about 12 years ago | (#3828409)

Doesn't Sony have a music division which is part of the RIAA? And doesn't the RIAA make a concerted effort to stop people from ripping CDs? So how can Sony make a device to do just that? Is one division going to sue the other or something?

Re:I'm confused (1)

SquadBoy (167263) | about 12 years ago | (#3828487)

I've always found the idea that Sony also makes regionless DVD players. (Fine links to them here [vcdhelp.com] ironic. It would appear that Sony has a music/movie side that is evil and a hardware side that is cool. I 've always wondered how often the two sides talk.

It's called hedging (2)

gosand (234100) | about 12 years ago | (#3828602)

It is called hedging your bets. RIAA wins, Sony makes money. RIAA loses, Sony makes money.

Look closer (2)

eyeball (17206) | about 12 years ago | (#3828411)

As it was explained to me by a salesman (and please, someone correct me if I'm wrong...), the one thing you cannot do that would seem obvious is copy mp3s from a cd to the harddrive.

Kenwood Music Keg (5, Informative)

Cryptnotic (154382) | about 12 years ago | (#3828417)

Kenwood has a similar product, the Music Keg [musickeg.com] . Their version works like a CD changer with a removable hard drive cartridge.

Re:Kenwood Music Keg (4, Informative)

Josh Coalson (538042) | about 12 years ago | (#3828596)

Kenwood has a similar product, the Music Keg. Their version works like a CD changer with a removable hard drive cartridge.

And it's half the price and plays [phatnoise.com] FLAC [sf.net] also (the MusicKeg is a re-branded PhatBox).

Pioneer has an in-dash unit like Sony's for around ~$2K but you can't even rip MP3's from ISO-9660 discs on that. Besides, who wants to spend all that time trying to rerip and recatalog everything on another box?

An iPod or a portable drive like the PhatBox is the way to go.

Josh

Re:Kenwood Music Keg (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3828615)

1. boxen is slang, it's a play on ox -> oxen.
2. you're an idiot.

Knowing Sony . . . (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3828421)

they probably copied GPLd code to use in their overpriced "buy MP3 gear from us to help fund our fight against P2P" box and won't release source.

My question is ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3828425)

Does it crash when you try to use this to rip the Celine Dion CD? How can one division of Sony publicly oppose ripping by putting out a CD that can destroy your computer, and another division publicly encourage ripping by buying this device? Christ, if there ever was evidence violation of fair use rights needed for a Judge, this would be a good example to give him.

Re:My question is ... (1)

MImeKillEr (445828) | about 12 years ago | (#3828455)

Nah, I'd hope that it'd spit the CD out and a nice voice calmly ask "Just what the F* are you trying to feed me?"

Wow (5, Funny)

oman_ (147713) | about 12 years ago | (#3828428)


Man.. at $1.5k I might as well PAY for my music!

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While I think this is good... (1)

stubear (130454) | about 12 years ago | (#3828432)

"...but it's still nice to see a major car audio manufacturer delivering what the public wants."
...I think this comment is a bit misguided. IS this truly what the public wants or what a small handful of geeks wants? I'd hold judgement until the sales figures come in. I'd also suggest geeks drop this attitude or kick it down several notches. You only serve to make yourselves look like idiots and appear misinformed as to how the world works (let me give you a hint, you don't live in the United Federation of Planets and teh USS Enterprise is not a starship, it's an aircraft carrier).

Re:While I think this is good... (2)

geekoid (135745) | about 12 years ago | (#3828543)

actually, I think this is what the public wants. My dad has asked about something like this for years. If he could get 10G orth of music, and not have to keep track of his CD's. he would live it. a lot of people feel that way.
The caveat is, it must have a good UI and be 'idiot proof'. so If I try to rip a cd, and I all ready ripped it, it would either noit rip it, or rip it over the previous one.
Your sentiment is understood, but I think this has strong apeal to non-geeks as well.
once we get past the introductory curve, competition will kick in, then the price will drop.

Useless, closed, proprietary product (5, Informative)

Radi-0-head (261712) | about 12 years ago | (#3828456)

I had considered the purchase of one of these units (several months ago, indcidentally -- this "news" is kind of old) and did a little homework on it... here's why it sucks, and why I won't buy one:

- Proprietary compression
The unit uses Sony's ATRAC compression which is proprietary and heavy on DRM. Even MP3's which you copy from a memory stick to the unit are converted to ATRAC, resulting in loss.

- No direct PC connectivity
You can't wire up, say, an ethernet jack to this unit as you could with the Empeg, etc... and copy files to it from your computer. No way. You must either sit in your car and rip (at a paltry 8x) every friggin CD you want into the unit, or use a Memory Stick back and forth from your PC to this unit. An utter waste of time, IMHO.

Pioneer Electronics came out with a unit that is extraordinarly similar yet has a larger, easier to navigate menu system... it still, however, suffers from the same shortcomings as the Sony unit. I am not sure what type of compression Pioneer uses, though.

Anyway, my two cents...

Useless, closed, proprietary product (2, Insightful)

joe_bruin (266648) | about 12 years ago | (#3828544)

you hit the nail right on the head.

can't use your mp3's with it. can't take the music you rip anywhere. nearly impossible to manage.

why not try the phatnoise car audio system [phatnoise.com] (they're selling them again). pretty similar to an empeg, except that it emulates a CD changer, so it connects to your existing headunit. plays mp3, wma, and flac (lossless encoding). removeable hard drive connects to your pc via usb, and lets you use all the music that you already own.

even with the price of a new headunit it's cheaper than this sony pos.

What about Celine? (1)

jay95 (139426) | about 12 years ago | (#3828463)

Isn't Sony the company that distributes the Celine Dion CD that was copy protected? I guess they think it is okay to rip any CDs except the ones they make? ;-)

Magic markers (1)

AtariAmarok (451306) | about 12 years ago | (#3828497)

This player automatically magic-markers the crippletrack to make the CDs copyable.

However, you might get some severe bumper dentage if you start bluetoothing Celine Dion tracks to guys in the next lane. :)

JC Whitney (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3828465)

What the public wants? This remindes me of the old dual tape decks that JC Whitney once sold. Yea, I can see myself driving and ripping; oh the fun never ends.

But the public does not want this... (1)

JoshMKiV (548790) | about 12 years ago | (#3828470)

Even the geek public did not want (in enough quantity) the Empeg/Rio Car. A better unit (as far as geeks go, because it has ethernet, Linux, can be modded to the hilt). I do not think the "public" will buy this Sony unit. Geeks will not, they already have their Empeg.

Cheers,

Josh

Interesting but (2)

sulli (195030) | about 12 years ago | (#3828473)

I will echo the other comment that says iPod is the answer. I use mine in the car all the time with a tape player adapter - not ideal, but it works fine. A better iPod adapter (say a cellphone style rack with built-in audio feed to the stereo) would be ideal, since iPod stays in your pocket and doesn't get stolen, unlike this thing which just about screams "Soon I will buy a No Radio sign."

Seems like a poorly thought out product (1)

SN74S181 (581549) | about 12 years ago | (#3828480)

Except for a few homeless people, who are now living in their car, I can't think of a market for this product. Nobody I know wants to 'rip' their Audio CDs in their car.

Automobile audio systems are generally meant as playback systems. You do all the futzing around to set up 'playlists' in the comfort of your home, then drop it in the Car's sound system when you're driving.

This sounds awkward at best. When I've 'ripped' CDs into the hard drive out in the car, how do I edit out the tracks I don't want? How are play lists constructed? It seems like just another thing on the dashboard to distract the driver.

The only way in is through MagicGate? Woof! (2, Insightful)

PenguinOpus (556138) | about 12 years ago | (#3828490)

I think the important thing here is that appears that sony created a fine consumer device that has many capabilities, but they intentionally crippled it by not having USB/firewire/ethernet/bluetooth/802.11b or anything to get my already ripped music onto the system. Using a memory stick is ridiculous. My Empeg needs to be left overnight to sync 10-20G of music over 10Mbit ethernet.

You can understand why they did it:

1) They're Sony and they don't _really_ want to support PC-based sharing

2) They'd have to come up with a PC-based app to manage the music. Emplode is getting there, but its a lot of work for a consumer electronics company to write software :-).

but it's lame.

802.11 Hard Drive? (2)

anthony_dipierro (543308) | about 12 years ago | (#3828494)

What I'd like to see is a low cost, low power, hard drive adapter which I can plug into my cigarette lighter to recharge and access from my iPaq whenever I'm within a few hundred feet of my car.

the public wants yet another distraction (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3828496)

to possibly cause people to have more car accidents?

oh, well. evolution in action.

(RIAA) Bad boys bad boys (1)

FIRESTORM_v1 (567651) | about 12 years ago | (#3828499)

Whatcha gonna do when the RIAA comes for you.. heh heh

It sounds like a nice thing but I'd rather prefer a 1,200$ laptop.. (My MP3 player can get on the Internet and play Q3A, what does yours do?) I think this is a cool idea but this is gonna be really bad if they do get the bluetooth thing going..

.oO(Sound of COPS music)Oo.
COP:Do you know why I pulled you over?
Driver: No sir
COP:Do you know how fast you were going?
Driver: Uhh.. 65?
Cop: Try 384K/Sec.. You do know that the speed limit in this zone is 256K/Sec?
Driver: But Officer! It wasn't me!!
Cop: Tell that to the judge.. You have MP3's spewed all over the place.


How will we be able to tell the RIAA police from the Real cops? will they have dark blue cop cars? In Houston the cop cars are sky-blue... Just my .02c (hope this is funny)

What the public wants? (1)

Control-Z (321144) | about 12 years ago | (#3828504)

I never asked to rip CDs in my car. And I never agreed to pay $1,400 for it!

I think the best thing for a geek right now is a hard drive based MP3 player. I bought a Dension DMP3 ( http://www.dension.com ) for around $300 and stuck a 40 GB hard drive in it. It's got a very nice and somewhat customizable satellite display, I've got the unit itself under my driver's seat. Driving down the road with 3,500+ songs at your fingertips is very cool.

What about Pioneer? (1)

CNERD (121095) | about 12 years ago | (#3828506)

If you ask any real car audiophile they will say that Sony is a second rate company when it comes to car audio. Both Sony and Pioneer now have HD based headunits out now.

Why is sony getting the hype and no mention of the Pioneer?

Oh the Irony (2)

Ogerman (136333) | about 12 years ago | (#3828524)

Anybody else think it's kinda ironic that Sony, one of the RIAA big-5, is going out of its way to facilitate supposed "unauthorized copying"? (Not to mention all the other Sony products like CD/MP3 portables and their DVD/CD/MP3-player home units that specifically advertise "CD-RW compatible") Is this just a failure to communicate between their Electronics and Music divisions or are they finally seeing the light that fair-use is actually profitable? If so, this is a good sign that consumers are realizing the value of their rights and perhaps it'll be easier than we expect to get folks to shun M$ Palladium.

It's really a bomb. (1)

traphicone (251726) | about 12 years ago | (#3828612)

Tick, tick, tick, tick...

K4B00000MP3!

Bad idea? (1)

iONiUM (530420) | about 12 years ago | (#3828536)

Doesn't this seem like a bad idea? I don't even want to touch my computer when it's doing heavy hard drive access, and now they want to put it into a mobile machine? It better have good shock absorbtion, otherwise going over any sort of bumps at fast speeds would certainly cause havoc.
If anyone remebers, this used to be an issue with the first in-car CD-players -- they'd skip...

Great.... (2)

nochops (522181) | about 12 years ago | (#3828537)

This is just what the world needs....another distraction for drivers.

They can:
Read, write, eat, drink, compute, play games, watch movies, apply makeup, talk on the phone, and now, BURN FSCKING CDs

All while they should be driving.

Someone, please tell me where are the automatic cars? These people could be sitting in the back reading, writing, eating, drinking, computing, playing games, watching movies, applying makeup, talking on the phone, and burning CDs while the autopilot drives them to their destination

Caveat emptor (3, Funny)

An. (Coward) (258552) | about 12 years ago | (#3828541)

Keep in mind that Sony, the company that builds MP3 players, computers with CD-RW drives, CD players, DVD players, etc., is also the company that owns Columbia Records, which tries to prevent their music from working with those MP3 players, computers with CD-RW drives, CD players, and DVD players.

Are you going to go out and spend $1500 on a piece of equipment from a schizophrenic company that's trying to sabotage their own products?

Re:Caveat emptor (3, Insightful)

geekoid (135745) | about 12 years ago | (#3828575)

since corporation go where the money is, and the 1500 dollars will go to the side that makes creating mp3s easier, why not?

It is my humble opinion that sony knows the genies out, and there just playing the fence until they dominate the mp3 market.

Oops (1)

ZaneMcAuley (266747) | about 12 years ago | (#3828549)

Explain that one to your insurance company...

Oh I was ripping CDs to MP3s at the time sir.

Gives new meaning... (1)

jhampson (580482) | about 12 years ago | (#3828560)

Gives new meaning to the terms: Hard drive crash Make tracks Any others? Let's hear 'em!

first cluster post (1)

hexfortyfive (219375) | about 12 years ago | (#3828562)

nobody said it yet, so...
Imagine a beowulf cluster of those.

not exactly news (1)

Snowbeam (96416) | about 12 years ago | (#3828568)

This is old news. Pioneer and Kenwood have similar products and they've been out for months. I'm only surprised /. would decide to post this story now.

The ripping purpose is so that the music is ripped and stored tot he Hard Drive, thereby allowing you to leave the CD at home from that point onwards. Now if they would add something like the 801.1(a|b) specs, so that as you drive up to your place, music is downloaded or uploaded to a server at your place of work or residency, I would be happy and impressed.

Rendezvous at the McD's parking lot... (1)

Beatbyte (163694) | about 12 years ago | (#3828569)

Ripping session of the latest CD's will now be done at the same place the rice rockets hang out.

Not particularly useful unless you could get the data out of the car (firewire HDD or CD-R). Ripping is soooo much faster on a PC anyways.

Not to mention the safety factor of some loser on a cell phone and ripping CD's and tweakin the knobs on the amp all while "driving" ...

Sony and Ripping? (1)

natefaerber (143261) | about 12 years ago | (#3828598)

Is this the same Sony that doesn't want you to be able to rip [slashdot.org] their CDs? Will they only allow their CDs to ripped in this thing?

A CD tray?! (2)

eples (239989) | about 12 years ago | (#3828609)


I think the concept of the player is great - but why on EARTH is there a disc tray that ejects from the front?!?! This picture [crutchfield.com] shows the tray, I would have *much* preferred a front-loading [crutchfield.com] mechanism like on their bottom-of-the-line model.
Bad Sony. No cookie.

kinda useless (2, Informative)

joe_bruin (266648) | about 12 years ago | (#3828610)

i saw this (and the pioneer one) at CES. 10 gigs (unupgradeable) of music that rips from your cd player. unuseable (atrac3) format that you can't take out of the car. the only way to get music on it is by inserting a cd and waiting for it to rip or by magicgate (drm'd) memory sticks (which means my music collection is useless with it). and how do you manage, navigate, control all that music through the stupid headunit interface?

these guys [phatnoise.com] had it right. create playlists on your desktop (mp3's), transfer them to a removeable hard drive via usb, plug that drive into a device that emulates a cd changer in your car. don't even have to change out your headunit. sounds like it does just the opposite of what the sony unit does, and is much more practical. they also make a model [kenwoodusa.com] specifically for kenwood, so it does look like they're gaining headway in the market.

Have to rip a CD for each DRM device? (1)

fermion (181285) | about 12 years ago | (#3828617)

I found this press release [sony-europe.com] and it echos the fact that CDs are ripped to hard disk at 8x speed. The potentially more interesting thing is that according to specification [discountcarstereo.com] the memory stick can only be used "check out" music. Exactly what this means i don't know.

What does seem to be happening is that the forces that be are allowing us to copy music from CD to CD or CD to MP3, but not MP3 from a non-CD to MP3 to a non CD. What this means is that the consumer is going to be inconvenienced by having to rip cd to many different places, instead of ripping the CD once, and then piping it to different stand alone devices. One assumes that if DRM is implemented, this will also apply to the GPC.

There is really no reason why I shouldn't be able to take my portable computer, IPod, or whatever, and transfer MP3s directly to my car.

Actually... (3, Informative)

Polo (30659) | about 12 years ago | (#3828622)

These are becoming more mainstream.

For instance, Pioneer [crutchfield.com] has one too.

However, I think cd players that play MP3's off CD-R/CD-RW's are a much better deal [crutchfield.com]

They cost LOTS less, they hold "enough" music, and if the media dies, it costs 20 cents to replace it.
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