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Caffeine May Reduce Alzheimers

CmdrTaco posted more than 12 years ago | from the but-i-can't-remember-last-night dept.

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thelars writes "This article discusses research that links coffee consumption to a reduced risk of alzheimers disease. According to the article, drinking at least three cups of coffee a day may reduce your risk of alzheimers by up to 60%. Time to stock up on Penguin mints..."

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Caffeine also reduce (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3889639)

my first poster skills

Re:Caffeine also reduce (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3889707)

Your skills smell like poop.

first duck post! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3889640)

quack quack quack!

hahahaha (3, Funny)

Graspee_Leemoor (302316) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889642)

Nicotine reduces risk of Alzheimer's too. I always new drinking 10 cups of coffee a day and chainsmoking was good for me...

Re:hahahaha (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3889675)

Nicotine reduces risk of Alzheimer's too. I always new drinking 10 cups of coffee a day and chainsmoking was good for me...

Damn right. No other way to live, I say. Nothing like a long, lingering death due to lung cancer.

The sad part is, drinking 10 cups of coffee/day and chain smoking isn't so far off from reality.

Re:hahahaha (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3889846)

Way Off-topic... but WTF happened to the Karma system? my page used to say Karma: 24 but now it says Karma: Good I WANT TO KNOW MY NUMBERS DAMMIT!

hmmm coffee (3, Funny)

Loopsnut (589418) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889649)

Now I have the ultimate excuse to stay up till 4am coding hyped up on caffiene, i want to be able to do it for fifty more years without forgetting how.

Aluminum? (1)

ikewillis (586793) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889661)

And the benefits of the caffeine will be offset by the aluminum in the cans

You must be one stupid motherfucker! (-1)

Dick Veiney (553663) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889672)

Aluminum soda cans are lined with a layer of plastic you fucking idiot.

Uh, earth to you... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3889701)

Aluminum cans are coated with a layer of polymer. Moderators: Do not up-mod my post, this is common knowlege any idiot should know and shouldn't be rated "Insightful."

Re:Uh, earth to you... (0)

ikewillis (586793) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889739)

On both sides? What about aluminum absorbed through the skin of your hands?

Re:Uh, earth to you... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3889813)

What about the paint on the outside? Or do you soak all your pop cans in paint thinner before drinking?

Re:Uh, earth to you... (1)

tauntalum (221678) | more than 12 years ago | (#3890002)

Yes, our pop cans come with a paint thinner under the brand name of Coca-Cola

Cans? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3889716)

You americans drink coffee from CANS too? I always thought you were wierd with your canned-beer fetish, but this is just TOO much...

Fresh-ground all the way, baby...

Re:Cans? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3889822)

moooooooooron...

Re:Aluminum? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3889923)

> And the benefits of the caffeine will be offset by the aluminum in the cans ..and the effects of aluminum on brain function(s) would be?..

Re:Aluminum? (0)

unclelib (552196) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889938)

Cans? I thought we were talking about coffee.

What? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3889666)

I forget.

SBUX?? (0, Redundant)

ScoLgo (458010) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889667)

1. Buy Starbucks shares
2. ?
3. PROFIT!!

Re:SBUX?? (1)

ScoLgo (458010) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889894)

Heh? I make a joke about Starbucks in a discussion about coffee and I get modded off-topic? Unfunny I could accept, but off-topic? Maybe the moderators need some coffee to help them wake up? Or maybe they just forgot which choice they were selecting from the list?

Ah well...

I am saved (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3889668)

thank you jolt

Re:I am saved (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3889809)

I am saved ... thank you jolt

but your teeth aren't. dont complain to me when they are blackened and falling out.

Definition of "troll" (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3889669)

Troll : Noun. An ugly person, usually referring to a woman.

Flames, goatses, etc to jamie@tacosnotted.vg

Excellent (0)

jmenezes (100986) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889673)

Now I have another excuse for my doctor when he says a few pots of coffee might be too excessive

Dr: "You got to cut back on your caffeine intake."
Me: "But I'm reducing my risk of getting Alzeimer's!"

Just what we need (1, Funny)

The Turd Report (527733) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889681)

Seniors all hopped up on coffee and/or Penguin mints. I only hope it will allow them to drive the speed limit and turn off their blinkers after a turn.

Other things that help. (3, Insightful)

Tar-Palantir (590548) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889682)

I have read that playing chess (or similar games) can also help against Alzheimer's. Supposedly, this is due to requiring the brain to work in a particular manner.
I'd guess coffee does not help for the same reason . :)

Re:Other things that help. (2, Interesting)

dytin (517293) | more than 12 years ago | (#3890025)

Actually, it could be for the same reason. I think that chess, as well as crosword puzzles, other word games, etc. reduces the risk of alzheimer's because you use your brain a lot in these activities, similar to the principle of "use it or lose it". Perhaps drinking caffine also causes your brain to be used a lot more. I mean, if you're more awake and more alert, then you're also probably using your brain more.

Of course, if this were true, then I'd imagine that halucinogenic drugs probably also reduce the risk of alzheimer's.

Penguin Mints? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3889687)

Ah...Penguin Mints are -loaded- with Aspartame, yet another chemical that some suspect could be Alzheimer-causing (amongst other things).

Just go for a nice cup 'o Joe instead.

Re:Penguin Mints? (2)

Peyna (14792) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889884)

Funny, I've got a tin right here, and I don't see Aspartame or Nutrasweet or anything like that listed. Aren't products containing Aspartame supposed to have some warning on them too?

Re:Penguin Mints? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3890095)

Dunno, but here's the proof:

http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/caffeine/287d.sht ml
http://www.computergear.com/penmin6tin.html
htt p://www.linuxmall.com/shop/01414
http://www.peppe rmints.com/press_lat.asp

(Search for 'aspartame' on each of these web pages...yup, Penguin Mints have aspartame)

Good (0)

XThe UnknownX (591340) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889689)

Now grandpa will be wide awake. Where's my sedatives?

Sigh. (3, Funny)

blackula (584329) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889692)

Can't even get a fucking topic right. It's "Alzheimer's."

Re:Sigh. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3890088)

Just call it Old Timers, everyone will know what you mean.

So basically... (5, Funny)

JoeShmoe (90109) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889695)

This article says that caffeine may reduce Alzheimers.

However, this article [msnbc.com] says that alcohol may reduce Alzheimers.

So in other words...the best thing I can do is drink Irish coffee?

- JoeShmoe

.

Re:So basically... (2)

SerpentMage (13390) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889731)

I think the key here is moderation...

Oddly these things keep coming out on what is good for you. Guess what, that is called the Italian and French lifestyle. And generally coffee is not as good as espresso is.

Also if you look at France and Italy they drink fresh coffee in those neat single serving machines and Italians love their espresso machines.

Re:So basically... (1)

ScoLgo (458010) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889942)

I think the key here is moderation...

Yep - this is slashdot after all.

(Sorry, couldn't resist :)

Re:So basically... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3889748)

sucks to be Mormon then...they must have the highest incidences of alzheimers.

oh wait they don't, do they?

Re:So basically... (2)

_ph1ux_ (216706) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889867)

thats funny. I cant even remember how i get home from the bar after drinking.

A Group of Kernel Hackers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3890011)

.. were kind enough to "escort" you home

it's a conspiracy.... (1)

rudiger (35571) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889700)

by the coffee makers. think about it: if we start/continue to drink 3 cups of coffee a day, they can say it is because we drank all that coffee but if we don't, we will forget they ever propogated such lies. its a win-win situation. down with big caffeine! unless they have gotten to you all already.....

No alzheimers? (5, Funny)

bravehamster (44836) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889710)

So you're telling me all these asshole on slashdot will still be know-it-alls when they're 90?

Re:No alzheimers? (2)

cmowire (254489) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889736)

Yeah, but given the excessive caffiene consumption and sleep deprevation, they'll stuffer all sorts of other health problems, too.

They are saying that sleep deprevation and caffiene is a surefire way to get, at the very least, Type II diabetes, later on in life.

Parkinson's too (2, Informative)

avoisin (105703) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889712)

Not only that, but it has been shown to have great effects on Parkinson's disease as well. I know several folks personally where it has had a substantial effect in delaying onset and even reducing symptoms!

Check out this CNN story [cnn.com]

Re:Parkinson's too (2, Informative)

bsDaemon (87307) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889935)

caffeine, like speed, riddlin, marijuna, etc, stimulates the scretion of the nuerotransmitter dopemine. Dopemine defficiany is the cause of parkinsons. So smokers, dopers, and Pete Townshend are all parkinson-free, too.

Penguin mints? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3889719)

No, its XPerimints mints for me!

3,7-Dihydro-1,3,7-trimethyl-1H-purine-2,6-dione (0)

schematix (533634) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889721)

Starbucks anyone?

Cause and effect? (5, Interesting)

gwernol (167574) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889727)

Interesting. I've seen studies suggesting that increased brain activity throughout life also correlates with lower incidences of Alzheimers. People who read a lot, do crosswords, basically stay mentall active seem less likely to develop this disease.

I wonder if what is actually happening is the caffeine allows you to do more mental work, which in turn reduces your risk of Alzheimers.

Pure speculation, of course, but it would be interesting if someone could do the experiement to try to validate this theory.

Re:Cause and effect? (1)

Jonny Ringo (444580) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889785)

alcohol may reduce Alzheimers

Then, how do you explain that guys post above?

I definetly don't get drunk and play crossword puzzles.

Re:Cause and effect? (5, Interesting)

Peyna (14792) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889794)

I wouldn't put it at the caffeine allowing you to do more mental work, but that heavy consumers of caffeine tend to drink lots of caffeinated beverages because their brains are already busy and they need to stay perked up. So, I would say that maybe a higher amount of caffeine consumers are already move active in the brain department. How many people drink 3 cups of coffee a day and then sit in front of the tv for 12 hours?

Re:Cause and effect? (3, Informative)

gwernol (167574) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889903)

I wouldn't put it at the caffeine allowing you to do more mental work, but that heavy consumers of caffeine tend to drink lots of caffeinated beverages because their brains are already busy and they need to stay perked up.

Another interesting and plausible theory. As is so often the case, we need a proper controlled study to distinguish the correlation from the cause and effect.

Re:Cause and effect? (2)

Tokerat (150341) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889922)


How many people drink 3 cups of coffee a day and then sit in front of the tv for 12 hours?

I need the energy for when I go on a pr0n-renting spree.

;-)

Re:Cause and effect? (2)

GuyMannDude (574364) | more than 12 years ago | (#3890107)

I need the energy for when I go on a pr0n-renting spree.

Renting porn? Shame on you! Aren't you afraid that we're going to laugh at you?

You should be downloading it for free instead! And you call yourself a geek! Hmmmph!

GMD

caffeine also increases risk of hypertension (2)

Trepidity (597) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889924)

So perhaps those who drink lots of caffeine don't live long enough to develop Alzheimer's?

known neurological effects of caffeine (4, Interesting)

Preposterous Coward (211739) | more than 12 years ago | (#3890085)

Interesting theory. Moderate doses of caffeine have long been known to have positive effects on learning and memory, at least in rats running mazes -- which seems similar enough to programmers navigating cubicle farms that we can be confident the results should generalize ;-)

Now wait a second.. (1)

Jonny Ringo (444580) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889733)

You docters have been telling us to drink 8 glasses of gravy a day. -Homer S.

Don't Forget (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3889737)

that drinking alcohol will kill off those useless brain cells....one day soon, I will be a genius

Definition of "troll" (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3889745)

Noun. An ugly person, usually referring to a woman.

Flames, goatses , etc to jamie@ihavesexwithlittleboys.vg with your mp5'd goatse.cx id "fd,jfd0fdi4095klfrtr5945950reitjnrlkt09459ikfdlg9 409595uij5k4"

Well, I guess.. (1)

OutRigged (573843) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889762)

Well, I guess at least 98% of the people who read Slashdot, don't have to worry about Alzheimers. I drink a good 5-6 cans of soda a day, along with 2 cups of coffie a day.

What if it doesn't? (1)

praxim (117485) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889767)

Isn't anyone else terrified of hyperactive, forgetful old people? "OhwellIknowIwassupposedtodosomethingIthinkIwasgoi ngtocheckthemailorwasthatthebluejaywheredobluejays liveisitinAlaskaIdon'tquiteremember... Oh, hi there."

Study shows most studies are flawed... (5, Funny)

bahtama (252146) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889772)

Bah, 60%! Having a fatal heart attack reduces your risk of having Alzheimers by 100%! So get back to that high-fat diet! ;)

Re:Study shows most studies are flawed... (2)

CheechBG (247105) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889805)

oh, if I had mod points you would get them all :)

People with Alzheimers drink 1 cup a day... (2)

puppetman (131489) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889773)

Right. Here's how it goes.

"Good morning, Mrs. Smith, I'd like to ask you a few questions."

"Little Johnny? Is that you?"

"No, Mrs Smith, I'm doing a study on coffee and Altzheimers..."

"What did you do with my cat?"

"Uh.. right... anyway..."

"Who are you? Why are you in my room..."

Yah - like I trust the memory of people with Altzheimers.

My grandmother had it. My grandparents would pick me up, and we would head off somewhere. She would ask about 4 times where we were going. She confused me with my dad constantly.

Re:People with Alzheimers drink 1 cup a day... (2)

Xerithane (13482) | more than 12 years ago | (#3890112)

My favorite Alzheimer's experience involves my wonderful grandma, as well, who has been dead for quite some time now.

When we were growing up we'd go visit, and my grandma would always ask my brother and I if we had a dog. We'd politely say, "No gramma, we don't have a dog." and five minutes later be repeating ourselves. Her response was also, always, the same: Every boy should have a dog.

Finally, my mum grew so sick of it that she said, "I know lyin is wrong but if she asks you one more damn time you tell her you have a dog!"

A few years later, we were on a fairly lengthy road trip of a few hours and about 30 minutes away from the house (Away from any place to use a restroom of any sort, even the bad ones) she pipes up, "Excuse me, I need to use the restroom." -- we start to panic, and explain to her she'll have to hold it for just a bit longer. By the time we got back to the house she had completely forgotten (and was insisting she never had to) about going to the bathroom. That worried us, but luckily the car seat was still dry. :)

Interesting, but ... (3, Insightful)

Koyaanisqatsi (581196) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889781)

Should we now scrap all that other studies that suggest coffee consumption can be linked to higher blood pressure, which can in turn be linked to higher risk of heart attacks?

Re:Interesting, but ... (4, Funny)

jazman_777 (44742) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889858)

Should we now scrap all that other studies that suggest coffee consumption can be linked to higher blood pressure, which can in turn be linked to higher risk of heart attacks?

Absolutely, because we live in the day of "The Latest Study Shows..." The Latest Study [tm] is all that counts.

Reduce Your Risk of Alzheimers (4, Insightful)

EraseEraseMe (167638) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889783)

By dying earlier of other complications such as hypertension.

Short Term side effects of excessive consumption of caffeine include:

Nervousness, anxiety, irritability, headache, disturbed sleep, and stomach upset or peptic ulcers. In women, it may aggravate the symptoms of premenstrual syndrome

Re:Reduce Your Risk of Alzheimers (1)

dev0n (313063) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889838)

.. and while we're talking about the bad side of caffeine, don't forget heart arrhythmias.

http://www.naspe-patients.org/patients/substance s/ diet.html
http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/public/ heart/other /arrhyth.htm#causes

Moderating this to 5, insightful may reduce (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3889784)

Alzheimers disease.
Using Linux may reduce it.
Not reading slashdot may reduce it.
You never know what will reduce it.

good with the bad... (1)

skydude_20 (307538) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889802)

Caffeine May Reduce Alzheimers while needing to consume at least three cups of coffee a day while arrhythmias [familydoctor.org] (heart problems) may be caused by excessive caffeine

its all about which you want to go first, your brain or heart. decisions... decisions...

Correlation is not causation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3889815)

Maybe the type of personality that would drink three cups of coffee a day is less likely to get Alzheimers. Perhaps even by causing them to die before they get old enough to get it.

Heck, my newspaper gets delivered around 5 AM every morning. Shortly thereafter, the sun comes up.

Coffee != Caffeine (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3889819)

Not that I know or not, but why is there an assumption that if coffee has some benefit that that benefit is due to caffiene? Coffee is some complex bean-juice!

Good point (2, Informative)

DinZy (513280) | more than 12 years ago | (#3890111)

There are a slew of other chemicals in coffee so perhaps one of these or a combination of many might be the key. There really isnt a way to test this though.

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Taco must be getting old (1)

lingqi (577227) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889827)

from the but-i-can't-remember-last-night dept.

don't drink so much coffee.

Hello by poopbot (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3889828)

Introduction

The cheese wheel inexorably avoids contact with the paycheck. The steam engine goes deep sea fishing with an often outer ski lodge. When the cyprus mulch over a vacuum cleaner hides, a ball bearing gets stinking drunk.

The tornado

For example, a submarine behind a class action suit indicates that the optimal fairy satiates an Alaskan recliner. When a mitochondrial bottle of beer is thoroughly dirt-encrusted, a most difficult blood clot underhandedly writes a love letter to a defendant. An earring pees on the cashier over some globule, but the pathetic crane sells another vacuum cleaner behind a scythe to a false wheelbarrow. If a chess board defined by a grain of sand makes love to a crispy cyprus mulch, then a particle accelerator flies into a rage.

A Eurasian globule

The feline minivan earns frequent flier miles, and the buzzard defined by a ball bearing trembles; however, a senator living with the girl scout learns a hard lesson from the inferiority complex. Any chain saw can try to seduce the particle accelerator, but it takes a real salad dressing to play pinochle with the inexorably precise paycheck. Furthermore, another seldom load bearing defendant flies into a rage, and a paycheck around a light bulb seeks a roller coaster around another bartender. If a crank case makes love to the diskette, then the squid toward a mortician meditates. Now and then, an insurance agent thoroughly avoids contact with a pompous turkey.

A microscope

Most people believe that an orbiting diskette trades baseball cards with a movie theater, but they need to remember how secretly a statesmanlike short order cook wakes up. A paternal roller coaster is usually financial. When the accurately varigated hole puncher takes a coffee break, a slyly smelly garbage can earns frequent flier miles. For example, the phony cheese wheel indicates that the tornado near a fruit cake hesitantly gives lectures on morality to a salad dressing defined by the corporation. The carpet tack near a cargo bay, some parking lot toward a warranty, and a stovepipe beyond a freight train are what made America great!

Conclusions

A judge beyond the briar patch laughs and drinks all night with the snooty chestnut. A raspy burglar conquers a bowling ball. For example, another plaintiff toward a bartender indicates that the ski lodge behind a fairy finds lice on a burglar. If some rattlesnake toward a cheese wheel can be kind to a blood clot, then the elusive movie theater self-flagellates. When a photon related to a turkey is most difficult, a self-loathing bottle of beer falls in love with a pickup truck living with the paycheck.

- posted by poopbot: for the crapflooder in all of us

oP0wPFPTO8

I quit (1)

RazzleDazzle (442937) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889843)

Too bad I quit drinking caffeine going on a year ago now. Hmmm... now I forgot why I quit, oh well.

Actually, I found it very surprising all the things that have caffeine in them. Over half of all pop, chocolate, tea, excedrin, coffee/cappuccino yogurt, etc. (I never ate that kind of yogurt before though.)

Re:I quit (1)

dev0n (313063) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889912)

Don't forget about ice cream, energy drinks, green tea, desserts, and LOTS of medication.

I have a heart rhythm disorder and I've been avoiding caffeine for over a year.. it's really difficult at first. But it's amazing how much better I feel without it in my diet. I'm not exhausted and headachy on my weekends like I used to be..

Other anti-sleep drugs? (3, Interesting)

koreth (409849) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889844)

Given the link between sleep and memory (short-term memory is thought by many researchers to transfer to long-term during sleep, for example) I wonder if there'll be a similar effect among users of modafinil [slashdot.org] and other sleep-suppression drugs. Or is it something unique to caffeine that has nothing to do with its effect on sleep cycles?

Before you start Chugging (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3889847)

Caffeine has also been shown to increase insulin resistance (think Type II diabetes)

http://www.testosterone.net/articles/214app.html

ya but... (2)

_ph1ux_ (216706) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889850)

aluminum causes it... so all the jolt that you been drinking dont count. it balances out.

However I beleive that it is only cooking in aluminum that does it... thats why cast aluminum pots are very bad. and aluminum foil. but their not gunna tell you that are they. nope. you buy too much of the stuff as a society for it to be a concern.

thats why i never cook anything in aluminum - and try to avoid anything served in it. like microwave foods.

yeah but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3889856)

sorry to be morbid... but a shotgun also reduces the risk of alzhiemers... idrta (i didn't read the article) but drinking coffee has got to be bad for you these people will probly or have died before they get alzhiemers. :) just something to think about.

This may be the first positive results (2)

Deagol (323173) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889860)

Don't double your coffee intake just yet...

I read Caffeine Blues by Stephen Cherniske a while back. Before the book, I was a regular coffee and soda drinker, and Penguin Mints were a staple on my desk. Since reading it, I've been caffeine-free for 6 months. And I've felt much better ever since.

The book cites tons of studies, and none of them claim anything beneficial about caffeine consumption. At best, most industry-funded studies showed no harm, and some of the more nuetral studies showed potential problems associated with chronic caffeine intake.

In fact, prior to reading this book, the only good thing I read about caffeine was about 10 years ago on Hyperreal [hyperreal.org] 's chemistry archive. I found a tidbit that said some study showed that coffee drinkers were less prone to suicide than non-coffee drinkers. I can;t seem to locate it, though.

I'm not preaching to anyone -- I still sneak in a morning coffee. And I really do miss my regular morning cup. However, if a die-hard (and quite rational) coffee drinker can be turned by this book, then all I'm saying is tread carefully. Thumb through this book while drinking a latte at Barnes and Noble. :)

Please link to the study/publication. (1)

Linuxathome (242573) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889861)

Go to the source man! I generally refuse to make any comment on any scientific study until I've read the publication. Those of you submitting stories on a new biomedical science publication, please remember to at least point to the PubMed [nih.gov] abstract of the paper [nih.gov] . For those of you wanting to comment on the study, please read it [blackwell-synergy.com] , before doing so. If any of you can provide free access to the paper, please post it here! Thanks.

Re:Please link to the study/publication. (1)

xerid (235598) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889937)

Ctrl-V

Crap....

Ctrl-V
Ctrl-V
Ctrl-V

PLEASE MOD UP (2)

Tokerat (150341) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889978)


Assumtion is the mother of all fuckups. - Under Siege 2

Please post any and all information you can. People always bitch about how the government engages in "disinformation", because people "have the right to know". Well, don't do yourself on accident what you don't want them doing on purpose.

CORRECTION (2)

Tokerat (150341) | more than 12 years ago | (#3890013)

"PLEASE MOD PARENT UP"

Small sample sizes ... (1)

jdiggans (61449) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889882)

I wouldn't get too excited - the fact that small-sample studies this like manage to get published amazes me. They're using two sample populations of 54 people for a disease state who's incidence, from what we currently understand, is probably affected by DOZENS of parameters over a span of decades.

Even the most basic course in statistics won't let you put much trust in these results. You could probably show a correlation in the same small population for tv viewing habits or propensity for wearing tinfoil hats.
-j

Re:Small sample sizes ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3890045)

Shouldn't be too hard to compare incidence of Alzheimer's in Utah to the surrounding states? (or maybe polygamy prevents dementia?)

Something to remember...(ha, ha) (5, Informative)

hauntfox (152706) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889946)

Retrospective studies like this are too susceptible to confounding. One obvious issue would be that more intelligent/better off people might drink more coffee, and take longer for the disease to show up. There are a lot of variables that go into Alzheimer's disease. Dementia is usually the sum of a lot of different "insults" to the brain. So start at your baseline intelligence, then take away the brain that died with any damage done. Little strokes ("vascular dementia") are a big contributor, and smoking, high blood pressure and high cholesterol all promote them. (Folic acid and vitamin B6 are showing promise at reducing/preventing this problem.) Shear damage to neuronal axons, like with a fall off a horse (President Reagan) or boxing or football will take you down a notch. This makes the dementia more obvious. Dementia can be rated by several scales, but the most common is the Mini Mental Status Exam (MMSE). As dementia progresses, it can be treated with some novel medications that (simplisticly) amplify the signals through the damaged brain. In spite of the pun in my "subject", dementia is no laughing matter, and would be a fate worse than death in many people's minds. People with dementia usually don't have insight into the problem, though. They continue blissfully unaware of their forgetfullness. It is most stressful for their family. I am a doctor, (IAAD?) btw. Regards.

yeah baby (1)

CakerX (149266) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889952)

I knew it, I fucking was saying this all along, now I am waiting for the artical saying staying up all night online improves your health as well

Being for Seattle this is no shock. (1)

infonography (566403) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889954)

Except when I tell people about the good effects of a Mocha from my Yahoo account they wind up drinking Expresso? Of course this could be a media insert from Starbucks. I wonder if someone got Minority Report confused with an actual NEWS item. Lately that's been happening a lot, especially off FOX and NBC.

Shaking (0)

CableModemSniper (556285) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889966)

So I'll be able to think when I'm 70, however the caffeine induced shaking of my hands will prevent me from actually doing anything :)

cant be true (1)

MrP- (45616) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889972)

my family drinks a ton of coffee, my grandfather had at least 6 cups a day for most of his life, he died of alzheimers.

Now someone pay me for proving this study wrong =)

But wait... (1)

mbrod (19122) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889980)

Isn't it more likely that you will die from a stroke earlier if you drink coffee hence not live as long as a non coffee drinker and hence not have as high a chance of getting Alzheimers?

Catch-22 (3, Funny)

A_Non_Moose (413034) | more than 12 years ago | (#3889999)

Now where did I put those Penguin Mints?

So will smoking (0)

isolation (15058) | more than 12 years ago | (#3890026)

The New England Jer. of med did a study of smokers and smoking was found to lower ones risk.

Alcaloids (1)

Ashtangi (583372) | more than 12 years ago | (#3890034)

Caffine is an alcaloid. Alcaloids are known to be psychoactive, and in small quantities almost all are stimulants. There is a vast array of research into Alcaloids and their effects on the brain. Most of the researchers tend to say that, under the proper usage environment, philosophy, and conditions, these chemicals can be very beneficial. Terrence McKenna (crackpot? perhaps) was convinced that they contributed to the dawn of language and logic in human and human ancestors. Check out the link above for some more information on caffine and other alcaloids.

Caffeine is Everywhere (1)

jazman_777 (44742) | more than 12 years ago | (#3890055)

I remember a co-worker came by with a 6-pack of A&W Cream Soda. He said he loved the stuff, but now couldn't drink it, because it now had caffeine, which he couldn't handle well. The cans had these words on them: "Now with Caffeine!" He only noticed it after he'd brought the stuff in to work. Of course, I just chugged the stuff down.

Why would I care? (2)

WildBeast (189336) | more than 12 years ago | (#3890077)

I drink like 4 coffees a day and a bottle of cola.

Two comments: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3890096)

(1) People with dementia are probably not functioning well enough to (a) need or want lots of caffeinated beverages, or (b) remember their consumption of it even if they did. It may be a recall artifact in this regard, or a confound with the effect of dementia on diet.

On the other hand,

(2) The article does mention lab experiments in mice pointing to caffeine as a protective factor against dementia.

Without the details, it's difficult to know what's really going on.
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