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Extra Scenes in FotR Special Edition DVD

CmdrTaco posted more than 12 years ago | from the stuff-to-desire dept.

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gdr writes "Lights Out Entertainment have an article on the extra scenes that will be in the Fellowship of the Ring special edition DVD. It will be nice to have the relationship between elves and dwarves fleshed out a bit. I'm not sure the final battle scene really needs to be any longer." There are quite a few bits mentioned for the extra 30 minutes of footage that I'm looking forward to seeing. Just be careful to buy the November 12 release and not the august release if you want the extra mojo. I'll be waiting.

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Pist Frost (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3894080)

Screw the CLiT!

I say it simple (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3894136)

I say simple fuck you.

Re:Pist Frost (-1)

k0osh.CEOofCLIT (582286) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894152)

This is for the CFACLPT (Coalition of forced AC posting trolls). We will make your life suck.

Europe? (1)

Dilbert_ (17488) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894092)

When is this coming to Europe? Or is it a simultaneous region 1/2 release?

Europe? Listen to Homer S...! (2, Funny)

Knacklappen (526643) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894163)

You should have listened to what Homer said [theregister.co.uk] on The Simpsons DVD FAQ page [fox.co.uk] ... ;-)

"Versatile" discs are no different from a regular disc. They just put the word "versatile" on so they can charge more.

Re:Europe? (1)

Colm Buckley (589428) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894260)

When is this coming to Europe? Or is it a simultaneous region 1/2 release?
Certainly R1 and R2 are coming out at the same time; I don't know about other regions.

Will they... (2, Funny)

aengblom (123492) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894093)

Will they have more minute-long shots of them walking? I really don't think their was enough in the original version.

Re:Will they... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3894118)

I agree! They should have it proportionately as long as the books had descriptions of landscape, trees and grass!

Re:Will they... (1)

Tin Weasil (246885) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894156)

I sure hope so... There was definately not enough "up the hill, down the plain, cross the river, under tree, walk for five days, etc." in the movie. The books were chocked full of that kind of riviting action.

Re:Will they... (1)

ElginCon (592970) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894157)

I am still angry that Peter Jackson took it upon himself to modify the story. I know he thinks he did it for the good of mankind, but many important themes and characters were removed or butchered for the transition to the screen.

The LotR did not have to be modified for the cinema. Jackson took more "creative freedom" than he should have and ruined a wonderful novel. I would have liked more scenes of them walking and talking.

That being said, I'll probably get both DVDs as well. I'm such a consumer whore.

Re:Will they... (2, Insightful)

FortKnox (169099) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894175)

I only really missed Tom Bombadil and the Old Man Willow tree...

Re:Will they... (1)

thaigan (197773) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894232)

I don't agree with you. I think it was important that he stick as much as possible to the story, but not all of the story would translate well into a movie. If it did, then endless hours of walking and talking should be added. I think it's important that he make a movie that really works well for anyone that has or hasn't read the books. Hopefully this will inspire all to either read or re-read the stories. I know it did for me and most of my family.

Re:Will they... (2)

CynicTheHedgehog (261139) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894236)

A-men. If it's not good enough to make into a movie, then don't.

Re:Will they... (1)

NexusTw1n (580394) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894221)

Just be careful to buy the November 12 release and not the august release if you want the extra mojo. I'll be waiting.

So they sell it in August, then sell it to the same people again with bonus footage released just in time for Christmas....

What's the betting they release it again for Easter with a bonus "making of.." DVD and maybe even a couple of postcards thrown in absolutely free!!

Personally I'm going to wait for the super limited edition triple film box set with 12 postcards, limited edition poster personally signed using a scanned copy of Peter Jackson's secretary's signature, and 14 hours of previously unseen footage.

Great film, but is this level of marketing really necessary ?

Re:Will they... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3894279)

Yes.

Re:Will they... (1)

thaigan (197773) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894283)

I used to agree that this is overkill. However, it's likely that there will be many people that would just want the theatrical release at a relatively low price and there will be others(myself included) that will want everything they can get and be willing to pay significantly more for it. I know view it as options. Albeit, it's a little annoying that you have to do some legwork to be informed about all your options before you buy anything now;-(

Re:Will they... (1, Interesting)

sdjunky (586961) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894248)

"Will they have more minute-long shots of them walking? I really don't think their was enough in the original version"

Considering this is mostly what they did in the book I believe it shows the labor of their journeys. I believe it fits well. If you don't like the walking then you'll hate the book since it takes forever to even get to the point where
<spoiler>

Frodo gets stabbed with the knife by one of the Ring Wraiths
</spoiler>

I understand that for some it may have been boring but the Lord of the Rings is a masterpiece. There is no part that doesn't fit in some small way to the whole. It's said that JRR Tolkien scrapped 3 chapters of work because he realized that the phase of the moon was wrong and had to rewrite earlier chapters to take into account of the differing light.

He not only wrote the languages of the Elven Tongue and Dwarfish etc. But those languages predecessors and their predecessors. They are real languages ( considering he was a linguist - no surprise ). If you read the Silmarillion you see references to words in their earliest form "Orkos" which later was termed "Orcs" etc.

You'll note ( a part taken out of the movie I believe ) that in the Bar Frodo was saying what was to be an earlier form of the childrens nursery rhyme where "The cow jumped over the moon".

He was a perfectionist. His work is a masterpiece and maybe some will appreciate the intended meaning of the "long walking scenes" since they add to the air of the FotR.

Jackson is like Lucas (4, Funny)

Rupert (28001) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894106)

He knows I won't be able to resist the lure of the August release, particularly when I see the display in the window of Sam Goody. Although I want to be strong, want to wait for the November release, we all know it's not going to happen. I'm going to buy both. And I'll hate myself for it.

Re:Jackson is like Lucas (1, Troll)

SirSlud (67381) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894169)

Be a man, not a franchise slut.

Re:Jackson is like Lucas (2, Insightful)

theRhinoceros (201323) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894179)

There's an easy way to let you watch the August release without giving yourself more reason for self-hatred: Rent the DVD when it comes out, several times if need be, then buy the November release. Acknowledge your weakness, sate your desires, save yourself from blowing 20 unnecessary bucks.

Re:Jackson is like Lucas (2)

dzym (544085) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894214)

If he's going to rent it several times, the $ amount will still add up, so he might as well just buy a copy.

Re:Jackson is like Lucas (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3894230)

Rent it and just copy it. Then when the SE version comes out buy it and you'll be all legal. It's not his fault they're being assholes like Lucas and trying to skim every red cent out of you. Is Jackson a jew?

Re:Jackson is like Lucas (1)

Hadlock (143607) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894278)

omebody mod this up. pure freaking genius. never thought about it that way.

Re:Jackson is like Lucas (1)

Hadlock (143607) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894339)

not if he has netflix (assuming, of course, he's not #8,000 in a line of 9000 for 6 copies

Re:Jackson is like Lucas (2)

acroyear (5882) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894185)

there's really no reason to hate yourself...as with Harry Potter, the august release is definitely "Priced To Own", meaning at walmart/bj's you might be able to find it for as low as 17.99. That in itself is the same as renting it 3 times, which you'd be doing anyways for the 3 months until it hits HBO and you'd tape it off the TV. Or you can just the PPV for 5.99 in about a month after it hits stores...but then its a crap-shoot on whether or not its letterboxed (some movies are, some aren't, and there's no way of knowing 'til you've paid for it).

Re:Jackson is like Lucas (1)

Heywood Yabuzof (255017) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894298)


Well, at least you know ahead of time there will be two releases. I'd rather have that information than what studios normally do, which is release a "quickie" DVD first, see how it does, then later decide to do a "special" version. Grrr.

I know it's all business and they have reasons for doing things that way, but I really appreciate it when a studio is up front about the multiple DVD plans.

Re:Jackson is like Lucas (0, Troll)

Hieronymus Howard (215725) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894311)

My timetable:

August - Rent, Rip

November - Buy

HH
--

Re:Jackson is like Lucas (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3894347)

I must have it....My precioussssssssss...

Re:Jackson is like Lucas (0, Troll)

thaigan (197773) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894348)

Jackson is nothing like Lucas!

For one thing, Jackson is working with an excellent story and Lucas is making it up as he goes along.

Re:Blockbuster deal on the movie in August (1)

Serrus (308753) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894373)

If it makes you feel any better, go to Blockbuster and buy a 10 rental card (1 rental/week for 10 weeks) and get the DVD for VHS for free. The cost is $26 with tax. Not a bad deal..... helps to justify buying the August version.

Wrong Battlescene? (4, Interesting)

FortKnox (169099) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894110)

I heard the battlescene that was supposed to be extended was the battle with Sauron at the beginning. I heard it was to be, not only elongated, but a lot more gory, giving the movie an "R" rating.

This is just heresay, though.

Re:Wrong Battlescene? (2)

levik (52444) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894299)

I hope this is more than wishful thinking. That battle scene was the highlite of the movie. The one at the end is pretty much a glorified "bar brawl".

Re:Wrong Battlescene? (5, Informative)

reidjones (202850) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894312)

It has already been approved for a PG-13:
(from ringbearer.org)

Press Release
SOURCE: New Line Home Entertainment
November 'Ring' Earns PG-13
'The Lord Of The Rings: The Fellowship Of The Ring' Special Extended Version DVD Receives PG-13 Rating From MPAA
LOS ANGELES--(ENTERTAINMENT WIRE)--April 22, 2002--New Line Home Entertainment announced today that the Special Extended Edition of ``The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring'' due in stores on DVD and VHS on November 12 has received a PG-13 rating from the Motion Picture Academy Association (MPAA) ratings board.

Nooooooo (1)

Montag2k (459573) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894111)

Awww MAN, I got into that Blockbuster deal where you get 10 free rentals if you pay $24.95 for FoTR. But its the August release! Whats the big difference between the two?
Well, it sure seemed like a good deal at the time
-Montag

Re:Nooooooo (2)

SomeOtherGuy (179082) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894234)

Read the story to find out the difference. There is a url in the main story.

Re:Nooooooo (2, Funny)

maddskillz (207500) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894317)

Given the cost of renting movies at Blockbuster, that deal doesn't sound too bad anyways, even if you end up using the first dvd as a frisbee

You're complaining? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3894333)

You basically got 10 rentals and a DVD for the price of 5 rentals, and you're complaining? That's a great deal. I've already preordered my SE version of FotR and still went for that deal when I saw it at blockbuster. Why? There's no overlap. The extra's included on the standard version are completly different from the extras on the SE. So, if you want the complete collection you have to get both. Now stop whining and go out and preorder the SE too.

Well I wouldn't buy a DVD for extra footage... (2)

FyRE666 (263011) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894114)

While some films benefit to an extent (Aliens being one), on the whole most of the "extra" material was usually cut because it adds nothing to the film anyway. If I like a film I'll buy the DVD regardless of the extra footage. I think behind-the-scenes material is often more important, although it's usually something you'll only watch once anyway.

Any DVDs that force me to watch adverts are taken straight back for a refund as "broken" by the way - hopefully other people do this as well...

Re:Well I wouldn't buy a DVD for extra footage... (4, Insightful)

ZaMoose (24734) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894146)

Except most movies don't weigh in at around 3 hours in their post-cut form.

For those devoted Tolkien fans that want to see a more faithful recreation of the book on-screen, these additional scenes will help out (to an extent).

Those who aren't fans of the book should be perfectly happy with the August release.

Still, no Tom Bombadil. *sigh*

Re:Well I wouldn't buy a DVD for extra footage... (3, Funny)

Dark Paladin (116525) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894184)

Except that a "faithful recreation of the book on-screen" would have to be around 7 years long, if you include the parts where Frodo is just waiting around getting older while Bilbo is off getting Elf nookie.

Re:Well I wouldn't buy a DVD for extra footage... (1)

ek_adam (442283) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894320)

Except that a "faithful recreation of the book on-screen" would have to be around 7 years long, if you include the parts where Frodo is just waiting around getting older while Bilbo is off getting Elf nookie.
Don't you mean 17 years? Bilbo disappeared at his 111th birthday which was also Frodo's 33rd birthday. Frodo started the trek when he was 50, the same age as Bilbo was when Bilbo took off in The Hobbit.

Re:Well I wouldn't buy a DVD for extra footage... (2, Interesting)

Knacklappen (526643) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894273)

Those who aren't fans of the book should be perfectly happy with the August release.

I wouldn't quite agree with that conclusion. In my world, No-fans of the book are just persons who didn't spend the time reading it. I went to the movie with friends who didn't - and consequently they were bored by the movie! Can you belive this? Well, I can... because the movie throws a lot of characters and small stories in the air without connecting them to the larger picture of Middle Earth. To be fair - this is a Mission Impossible. The movie does the best it can in the limited amount of time. It would need trice the time to explain the FotR story to the uninitiated, so that they can fully appreciate it.
I wouldn't be too surprised if TtT will attract less viewers than FotR just because of this... A shame, though.

Re:Well I wouldn't buy a DVD for extra footage... (2)

MouseR (3264) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894155)

most of the "extra" material was usually cut because it adds nothing to the film anyway

Uh-ho... imagine the AotC DVD release... more scenes of Anakin riding space mega ticks, and the complete soundtrack of Sound of Music.

Re:Well I wouldn't buy a DVD for extra footage... (1)

Puggs (562473) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894266)

'on the whole most of the "extra" material was usually cut because it adds nothing to the film anyway.'

In LotR:FotR, there was a HUGE amount of the book cut out, not because it added nothing to the film, but because the film would have been ridicously long.

For Example: on FotR, Galadriel's gift-giving scene. (not Gif-Giving as the article says ;), galadriel gives the hobbits elven brooches, which are later used to help find the two captured hobbits. Im not sure how peter jackson is going to get round this one as afaik (havent seen the film in a while), hes made no mention of these brooches outside the extra dvd only features..

Re:Well I wouldn't buy a DVD for extra footage... (2)

leucadiadude (68989) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894329)

"Any DVDs that force me to watch adverts are taken straight back for a refund as "broken" by the way - hopefully other people do this as well..."

You are sooo right. I absolutely LOATHE it when I am blocked from fast forwarding or skipping ads (commercials) for other movies released by the same company. I bought the damn DVD so I wouldn't have to sit through that crap.

I have taken back a total of four dvd's now that had this "feature".

Bastards.

What I want to know is.... (1)

eyegor (148503) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894116)

How many of us LoTR compulsives will end up buying BOTH?

I know I can't wait until November....

Re:What I want to know is.... (1)

japhmi (225606) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894154)

I will be buying both... but only because I don't have a DVD player right now. I will be getting one in September - so I'll buy the VHS in August (no extras) and then get the DVD later with the extras.

Re:What I want to know is.... (5, Funny)

alChandler (86146) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894209)

I preordered them both. But it's ok, I can quit anytime.

Re:What I want to know is.... (1)

Programmer_In_Traini (566499) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894362)

I'm in the same position and you know what I've been wondering about??

I am going to buy both but why?

1. Is it because I really am a fan of LoTR?
or
2. Is it the LoTR team did a hell of a job with the marketing.

At first I told myself Answer #1 was the answer. But the more I think, the more I'm going for #2.

Oh man....being impusilve really isn't always that good.

He He He!

Happy Impulsivity :)

Eniac (Programmer In Training...)

For those who can't wait for the extras... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3894122)

Hit this site [d9movie.com] for a DVD. Sure, it doesn't have all the extra features. Sure, the transfer is a little less than perfect. But for $12USD you can't beat getting it before your friends. :)

Gotta love those Malaysians!

Mod this up! # +5; Patriotic # (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3894123)

O say, can you see, by the dawn's early light,
What so proudly we hail'd at the twilight's last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars, thro' the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watch'd, were so gallantly streaming?
And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof thro' the night that our flag was still there.
O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

On the shore dimly seen thro' the mists of the deep,
Where the foe's haughty holt in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,
In full glory reflected, now shines on the stream:
'Tis the star-spangled banner: O, long may it wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion,
A home and a countrv should leave us no more?
Their blood has wash'd out their foul footsteps' pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

O thus be it ever when free-men shall stand
Between their lov'd home and the war's desolation;
Blest with vict'ry and peace, may the heav'n-rescued land
Praise the Pow'r that hath made and preserv'd us a nation!
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust!"
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free und the home of the brave!

Re:Mod this up! # +5; Patriotic # (-1, Offtopic)

Colm Buckley (589428) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894220)

My word. I'd not seen the second and subsequent verses before - they're even worse than the first one. How do you get by with such a godawful national hymn?

Re:Mod this up! # +5; Patriotic # (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3894301)

LOL, envy is sad really

Doesn't this imply (1)

taliver (174409) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894138)

That the full "collection" will be at least 12 DVDs? And wouldn't you expect 2-4 more with the full set of "never to be seen before" details? Is this set ging to retail around $200 or so?

Talk about a marketing coup! They'll get people to buy this movie at least twice, and some of them three times.

Re:Doesn't this imply (0, Troll)

ichimunki (194887) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894251)

Gee, and that's without the normal MPAA BS where they make you buy new copies for the car, the vacation home, for watching with groups of unrelated acquaintances, for the next shiny device they make to show the same content, etc etc. And from the looks of Slashdot, it's going to work wonders. The MPAA lawyers thank you all for helping pay their lobbying expenses. :)

Waiting???? (2)

Tin Weasil (246885) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894139)

Waiting? Hell, I'm going to be buying both releases. Sure will beat the cheap divx ;) version running around the net.

I just can't wait for the protest rallies against the Two Towers!

Re:Waiting???? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3894181)

Dude, you need to get out and get some air.

Slowly step away from the computer and. . . Turn around and walk toward the door. Open it. Walk outside.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

Re:Waiting???? (4, Funny)

isorox (205688) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894197)

I just can't wait for the protest rallies against the Two Towers!

You mean Rename "The Two Towers" to Something Less Offensive Petition [petitiononline.com]

Re:Waiting???? (2)

EasyTarget (43516) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894325)

From petitiononline:

The title is clearly meant to refer to the attacks on the World Trade Center ...
3598 Total Signatures

Ha! Hysterical. Is this whole petition just a troll?

Re:Waiting???? (1)

dfluke (545168) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894367)

There should be a petition for keeping the original title, just so the petition against the title gets beaten properly to the ground.

There is only to a certain point one should take "political corectness", and that petition takes it absurdly far beyond that.

Re:Waiting???? (4, Funny)

Grape Shasta (176655) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894368)

You mean Rename "The Two Towers" to Something Less Offensive Petition

This petition is stupid... because it doesn't go far enough. Just the numbers 2, 9, or 11 are enough to remind me of the WTC tragedy. It is offensive to use those numbers in any context ever, unless you are solemnly remembering victims of terrorism. And don't even get me started on the "T" word - bad news!

Glad this wasn't a summer popcorn flick (2)

KrancHammer (416371) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894145)


I am glad this wasn't made into one of the inane, witless summer movies we in the U.S. have been subjected to all season. The book and material was treated with respect and dignity, with the core concepts and philosophy of Tolkien's works left intact. I, personally, would have watched (many times) a blow by blow, scene by scene translation of the book into film, but I don't think such a treatment would have been successful, commercially. All in all, PJ made the right decisions about what to keep, what to change, and what to discard entirely (Bombadil).

Re: Glad this wasn't a summer popcorn flick (2)

Black Parrot (19622) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894223)

> All in all, PJ made the right decisions about what to keep, what to change, and what to discard entirely

Except of course for the silly fight between Gandalf and Saruman, which looked like a some unused Xena footage got spliced in to save people from having to exercise their imaginations.

Re:Glad this wasn't a summer popcorn flick (1)

thaigan (197773) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894379)

Here Here!

Actually, both DVDS are totally different! (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3894147)

Actually, all the extra stuff thats coming out on the first Lord of the Rings DVD is NOT going to be on the huge November one. So if you are a hardcore fan, you need to get both. Over on www.moviepoopshoot.com they interviewed the guy creating both DVDs, and he said that they are doing this for a reason. True hardcore fans will get both sets to view ALL the extras. In other words, they have a shitload of stuff that people can see, and they will milk all the money out of us fans as they can get.

Wait, why wait? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3894161)

I want both, of course.
I have august pre-ordered, and am hinting that my family buy me the special collectors edition, the extended one with the argornath book-ends.
I can only hope.

Poor Sam! (1)

nastro (32421) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894162)

"A new introduction of loyal Hobbit Sam Gamgee"

Re:Poor Sam! (1)

nastro (32421) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894212)

"A new introduction of loyal Hobbit Sam Gamgee"

Please, keep it clean!

We don't need another rehash of the homo-erotic bs that has started some of the worst and most moronic debates ever to blight the Web.

Besides, they go down as Worst Thread Ever!

Galadriel gif-giving! (0, Troll)

funwithBSD (245349) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894165)

Whoo Hoo! She's handing out .gif's! Hope the Celeborn guy isn't in them.

Biding my time (5, Funny)

Grape Shasta (176655) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894170)


I'm holding out for the 24-Disc box set of the trilogy when they release it in 2007. $395 might sound like a lot of money, but it will probably take a month to watch it all, so that's a lot of entertainment! I'm looking forward to the full 10-hour commentary tracks by each member of the Fellowship, Bilbo, Gollum, Mojo Jojo, Liv Tyler, Natalie Portman, the director, the producer, and the key grip. Wooooooooo!

Re:Biding my time (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3894249)

oohhhhh...yeah.....

for myself, I will just wait until my local video store rents it to me for $1.50. Of course, I will have to set aside a full Saturday to watch it....I just love those special effects!!!!

Please no Tom (3, Insightful)

Washizu (220337) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894172)

I was extremely glad they cut out the Tom Bombadil scenes from the book. It was the most boring and meaningless section of the entire trilogy and it would have died on screen. Seeing the hobbits get sucked in by the trees would be neat, but I can live without that.

I think I'll rent Fellowship when it comes out in August and then buy it in November. It's a great movie and one of the best book to movie adaptations I've ever seen.

Re:Please no Tom (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3894337)

While the Bombadil scene is useless to LoTR it is part of the world of Middle Earth. I have forgotten the title but Tom actually has his own book.

I find the depth of the books as a whole to be as intrigueing as the LoTR storyline.

What i would like (1)

m4g02 (541882) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894174)

More than more scenes i would like if they included some important facts about "The Hobbit", like how Bilbo really found the ring or some stuuf of the battle (If it can be called a battle) versus the Lonely Mountain Dragon (Smaug was the name?), or the final battle of dwarfs, elves and humans versus goblins, orcs and wolfs.

Anyway, the DVD is a must =)

Re:What i would like (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3894227)

I've heard rumors that Jackson is going to be taking down the Hobbit after they finish off all three LotR movies.

Whether or not it's true, *shrug*, but hey, considering how well he's done with FotR, it may be a possibility.

I want a Silmarillion movie. Problem is, it'd have to be like Gandalf or someone sitting around telling stories.

d00d! (4, Funny)

Black Parrot (19622) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894176)

> It will be nice to have the relationship between elves and dwarves fleshed out a bit.

d00d! I don't think that's the kind of cut scenes they're talking about!

Re:d00d! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3894340)

> > It will be nice to have the relationship between elves and dwarves fleshed out a bit.
>
> d00d! I don't think that's the kind of cut scenes they're talking about!


Yeah, this isn't "FotR Porn Edition".

Filling in the gaps (1)

absterge (263820) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894177)

Right on. I read through the whole trilogy immediately before seeing the flick, and throughout the whole movie (even though it was, what, ~3hours long?), it kind of felt rushed. There seemed to be a lot of CHARACTER missing from the characters. The fellowship spent so much time getting right through the story that it all came up a bit thin in comparison to the books. 'course, I didn't read through the first book in three hours, either...

Re:Filling in the gaps (1)

m4g02 (541882) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894198)

Not to say that Gandalf is WAY more powerfull than in the movie, he isnt even a human.

LOTR: DVD Additions summary (0, Informative)

ZipperHead99 (121585) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894192)

  • Galadriel's Gif-Giving Scene. As the elves prepare to leave Lothlorien, Elf Queen Galadriel bestows a special gift upon each of the nine members of the Fellowship.
  • Bilbo Baggins writing a journal entry entitled "Concerning Hobbits," which serves as a history of the Hobbits and their bucolic lifestyle.
  • A new introduction of loyal Hobbit Sam Gamgee.
  • More footage from the Green Dragon Inn, with Peregrin "Pippin" Took, and Meriadoc "Merry" Brandybuck happily singing Hobbit songs.
  • Sam & Frodo witnessing the stately Exodus of the Elves on the road to Bree.
  • Aragorn singing an Elvish ballad that adds back story to the implications of his love for Arwen
  • Aragorn beside his mother's grave in Rivendell.
  • An extended sequence of the Fellowship's departure from Rivendell.
  • Pre-battle scenes in the Mines Of Moria, explaining how the dwarves came to be in the mines.
  • Character material delving into the complicated relationship between elves and dwarves.
  • Additional footage from the Fellowship's climatic battle scene.

And also:
  • Composer Howard Shore has returned with his Academy Award winning score and recorded 50 minutes of new music with the London Philharmonic for the special extended edition set!
  • Weta Digital has returned and contributed all new effects shots for the deleted scenes.
  • In addition to the 3 and a half hour feature, presented on 2 discs, the set will include 2 MORE discs packed with features not on the August release of the disc! This is includes production team commentaries, production documentaries, & interactive featurettes covering the film adaptation from "book to vision" and "from vision to reality"!

    I wonder how many people will actually watch the two extra discs. Regardless, its worth the wait if you ask me.

What is this movie about ?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3894222)

Heard so much hype and blah blah blah. Titanic was another movie which people touted about. Am glad I never watched that junk of 3.5 hrs !!!

Clarifying details (1)

gerf (532474) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894239)

it looks like the re-added scenes are ones which just make the details of the book stand out. not big plot-benders of course, but the things that really give a bit more depth, a little more insight. i'm looking forward to downloading the divx rip of it (poor college kid here...) :P

FOUR disks? (5, Funny)

Anarchofascist (4820) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894244)

It may take only one ring to rule them all, but it takes four disks to watch it.

Mirror? (1, Offtopic)

OS24Ever (245667) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894246)

Anyone get a mirror before the ISP suspended the page? The ISP for that sight intervenes with a 'Suspended' web page and no details.

Re:Mirror? (2)

Peyna (14792) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894300)

Probably 'suspended' because they didn't want to get spanked by the slashdot effect.

Move on with your life (2, Insightful)

SirSlud (67381) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894255)

Man, I've spoken to crack fiends who sound more self-empowered with respect to their vices. :)

Personally, I have very little respect for the franchise slut. It's one thing to be a fan, but to flat out say, "I dont want to buy two, but I know I will cave and do it." ... I mean, shit, where's the self control?

This isn't flamebait .. I wanna hear how somebody can justify that kind of sentiment. And how does this factor into the power of the boycott when consumers themselves admit being unable to control their spending habits?

Re:Move on with your life (1)

DoctaWatson (38667) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894321)

The difference is that the Lord of the Rings is such a significant piece of cultural art that it cannot just be dismissed as "corporate franchise".

Yeah, people are making gobs of money off of this... which is good if you ask me. Better America spend its money on something of depth and quality than on the usual Hollywood garbage.

Encouraging high-quality theatrical productions of classic literature by spending is probably going to work better for us in the long run. People spend money to see awful crap all the time- its when those with taste manage go out and spend for once that the industry stands up and takes notice.

MPAA BOOO! (0, Flamebait)

isorox (205688) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894264)

"BOOO, MPAA sucks, give us back our rights! Its disgusting how senators get bribed"

"OOh, shiny DVD's"

This is NOT a troll. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3894375)

He's simply pointing out the typical Slashdot modus operandi.

One minute everyone here is boo-hooing and raging about the MPAA...the next, someone posts an article about the latest "must-have" Anime DVD.

I'd extend that further, too....I remember when DIVX (the DVD-wannabe) was still around, just the MENTION of it would get people wailing and gnashing their teeth. DVD was a saintly intervention from God Himself (according to Slashdotters). Of course, DVD is full of idiocies itself (like region encoding, CSS, Macrovision, etc)...but Slashdotters don't care about THAT...just gimme my Anime DVDs.

On Talking and Travelling vs. Orcs. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3894265)

If you're in a movie, your obvious choice is, "Let's hunt some orc."

Why?

No one wants to sit through a rather lengthy movie listening to Legolas and Gimli bitching at each other for entire scenes. Okay, no one aside from Tolkien fans.

That's the important thing - Tolkien fans, die hard fans, that is, aren't that numerous anymore. Hell, I'm having a hard time finding 'Frodo Lives!' graffiti of late. As a result (Of the lack of die hard fans, not lack of graffiti!), Jackson had to make the movie more 'action packed'.

Frankly, by doing so, I believe he betrayed Tolkien's vision. Tolkien was never about action. If anyone remembers Ebert's review of FotR, he pointed out that LotR was more a travelogue than anything else. He was right.

But you know something? Jackson never promised us Tolkien's vision. He only offered us his own interpretation. I think that's the sole reason I don't hate the movie(s). (Well, that, and he managed to make the Balrog not suck terribly much. ;))

Text of the article (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3894292)

EXCLUSIVE: Fellowship Of The Ring Special Edition DVD pictures & info! Find out what's in that extra 30 minutes!!!
Sunday, July 7, 2002 2:37AM PDT - by Brian

We've got some exclusive pictures and information on what will be included on the special extended 4-disc edition of Lord Of The Rings: The Fellowship Of The Ring DVD hitting store shelves November 12th!

Here's what we found out from our friends at Newline:

On November 12th, 2002 Lord Of The Rings: The Fellowship Of The Ring will be released as a 4-disc special extended edition DVD which will integrate approximately 30 minutes of extra footage never-before seen, into the original theatrical release. Check out some exclusive info we found about about what's being included:

What can viewers expect from the 3 and a half hour immersion into Middle Earth??? WE'VE GOT THE ANSWERS!!! Here's what's to be expected...check out the stills!!! (Click to enlarge)

Galadriel's Gif-Giving Scene. As the elves prepare to leave Lothlorien, Elf Queen Galadriel bestows a special gift upon each of the nine members of the Fellowship.
Bilbo Baggins writing a journal entry entitled "Concerning Hobbits," which serves as a history of the Hobbits and their bucolic lifestyle.
A new introduction of loyal Hobbit Sam Gamgee.
More footage from the Green Dragon Inn, with Peregrin "Pippin" Took, and Meriadoc "Merry" Brandybuck happily singing Hobbit songs.
Sam & Frodo witnessing the stately Exodus of the Elves on the road to Bree.
Aragorn singing an Elvish ballad that adds back story to the implications of his love for Arwen
Aragorn beside his mother's grave in Rivendell.
An extended sequence of the Fellowship's departure from Rivendell.
Pre-battle scenes in the Mines Of Moria, explaining how the dwarves came to be in the mines.
Character material delving into the complicated relationship between elves and dwarves.
Additional footage from the Fellowship's climatic battle scene.
Lord Of The Rings DVD Special Edition pictures Lord Of The Rings DVD Special Edition pictures
Lord Of The Rings DVD Special Edition pictures Lord Of The Rings DVD Special Edition pictures
Lord Of The Rings DVD Special Edition pictures

Composer Howard Shore has returned with his Academy Award winning score and recorded 50 minutes of new music with the London Philharmonic for the special extended edition set!

Weta Digital has returned and contributed all new effects shots for the deleted scenes.

In addition to the 3 and a half hour feature, presented on 2 discs, the set will include 2 MORE discs packed with features not on the August release of the disc! This is includes production team commentaries, production documentaries, & interactive featurettes covering the film adaptation from "book to vision" and "from vision to reality"!

One thing missing? - 'The Sword That Was Broken' (5, Interesting)

cprice (143407) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894305)

Am I the only one who thinks they could have spent
2 more minutes talking about the 'Sword Of Elendil'? They show the sword in the preface cutting the hand of Sauron, and then they show Boromir doing his 'Still Sharp(e)' shtick. I think a quick scene with Elrond presenting the re-forged sword 'Anduril' to Aragorn would have been a worthy plot addition ('The sword that was broken goes to war'). To me, its part of the 'Aragorn claims his birthright' story within the story.

No overlaping extras (5, Informative)

Nilatir (179045) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894307)

From The Digital Bits [thedigitalbits.com] which in short says that the extras on the two releases do not overlap so your not wasting money by buying both editions. If you want more, buy the SE, otherwise just get the August release.
We're getting a lot of e-mails from readers asking if the special features set to be included on the theatrical edition of The Fellowship of the Ring (due on 8/6) will be repeated on the special extended version (following on 11/12). The answer is no. The documentaries and web featurettes are being included on the theatrical edition because a lot of fans have requested them. But since the special extended version includes an entirely new cut of the film, everything that will be included on that later edition is being custom created specifically for that release, for a more adult audience and to go MUCH deeper into the making of the film trilogy than what was seen in any of the TV specials. The idea is that most DVD consumers will be satisfied with the theatrical edition, while more sophisticated fans will wait for the extended edition. The most diehard fans will probably want both, as they perfectly complement each other but do not overlap.


Also, just to clarify, each DVD version includes a SEPARATE edit of the film. The 4-disc special extended set DOES NOT include the theatrical cut of the film on a separate disc or via seamless branching. If you want the theatrical cut, you have to buy the August 2-disc set. If you want the longer cut, you buy the November 4-disc edition. If you want both, save your money accordingly and buy both. Some people may feel that this is an effort to milk consumers, but I don't think so at all. In order to include everything you'll be getting on both editions, New Line would have to create a single 6-disc release, which would be WAY too expensive for most consumers to even consider. This way, they can have DVD purchase options for everyone. And by not having any overlap between the two editions, fans who buy both are absolutely getting the most for their money. Just think... over eight hours of unique special edition material alone on these two releases, not including the films themselves! If you're a fan, I say don't look a gift horse in the mouth!

Fortuitous (3, Funny)

stubear (130454) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894308)

Fortuitous that they call themselves "LightsOut Entertainment" only to suffer from a good slashdotting after posting a LOTR article.

Jackson is going to trigger mass piracy... (2)

Lethyos (408045) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894319)

It's stupid marketing tactics like this that help cause widespread piracy. Releasing "special editions" they will trigger a simple buyers tactic.

Lots of people on this board are mentioning how they cannot resist the August release, and will likely buy both. On the otherhand, how many of these people will in fact say "fuck it" and not hit the stores to get the August release, but rather hit Gnutella? People don't want to double their costs to get 30 minutes of extra footage, so they will end up buying the movie once. That once will be the November release. In the meantime, they'll settle for a high quality DiVX ;-) rip.

Then, the MPAA will bitch and moan about how they're so fucked by piracy. Meanwhile, they were the catalyst by teasing the consumers.

The "Moon": A Liberal Myth by poopbot (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3894322)

Credits: 70%

It amazes me that so many allegedly "educated" people have fallen so quickly and so hard for a fraudulent fabrication of such laughable proportions. The very idea that a gigantic ball of rock happens to orbit our planet, showing itself in neat, four-week cycles -- with the same side facing us all the time -- is ludicrous. Furthermore, it is an insult to common sense and a damnable affront to intellectual honesty and integrity. That people actually believe it is evidence that the liberals have wrested the last vestiges of control of our public school system from decent, God-fearing Americans (as if any further evidence was needed! Daddy's Roommate? God Almighty!)

Documentaries such as Enemy of the State have accurately portrayed the elaborate, byzantine network of surveillance satellites that the liberals have sent into space to spy on law-abiding Americans. Equipped with technology developed by Handgun Control, Inc., these satellites have the ability to detect firearms from hundreds of kilometers up. That's right, neighbors .. the next time you're out in the backyard exercising your Second Amendment rights, the liberals will see it! These satellites are sensitive enough to tell the difference between a Colt .45 and a .38 Special! And when they detect you with a firearm, their computers cross-reference the address to figure out your name, and then an enormous database housed at Berkeley is updated with information about you.

Of course, this all works fine during the day, but what about at night? Even the liberals can't control the rotation of the Earth to prevent nightfall from setting in (only Joshua was able to ask for that particular favor!) That's where the "moon" comes in. Powered by nuclear reactors, the "moon" is nothing more than an enormous balloon, emitting trillions of candlepower of gun-revealing light. Piloted by key members of the liberal community, the "moon" is strategically moved across the country, pointing out those who dare to make use of their God-given rights at night!

Yes, I know this probably sounds paranoid and preposterous, but consider this. Despite what the revisionist historians tell you, there is no mention of the "moon" anywhere in literature or historical documents -- anywhere -- before 1950. That is when it was initially launched. When President Josef Kennedy, at the State of the Union address, proclaimed "We choose to go to the moon", he may as well have said "We choose to go to the weather balloon." The subsequent faking of a "moon" landing on national TV was the first step in a long history of the erosion of our constitutional rights by leftists in this country. No longer can we hide from our governme

- posted by poopbot: for the crapflooder in all of us

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R Rated Version? (2, Funny)

TheVidiot (549995) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894324)

It will be nice to have the relationship between elves and dwarves fleshed out a bit Sure if you're into that kind of thing... Elves and dwarves in the flesh! Must be the scenes dropped to keep it from an R rating...

Buy Both Versions (5, Insightful)

AJSchu (23730) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894342)

I've read reports that state that the extras found on the first (2-disc) release will not be available on the second (4-disc) release, and vice versa. Hell, the 4-disc version won't even contain the theatrical version of the movie, but (from what I've read) the 30-minute extended version only. So I'm planning on buying both anyway.

For those of you who see this as purely a money grab, it's not. Look at the other options New Line had:

  1. Release the two-disc set only. Hardcore fans bitch and moan about not getting "extras."
  2. Release the four-disc set only. People who enjoyed the movie (but aren't hardcore fans) won't shell out $40+ for a load of features they're not interested in.
  3. Release separate packages with nearly-identical features, but label one a "special edition" with extra footage. Duplicated features for people who buy both. Cue the bitching and moaning.
  4. Release separate packages with widely differing features, one geared toward the casual fan and one geared toward the hardcore fan. Buy only what you want.

New Line did their best to give its customers a choice and opportunity to get what they want.

AJS

Explanation of Two Disks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3894355)

Sorry, Taco, it looks like you have to buy both releases, anyway. The two will offer disjoint viewing experiences. [moviepoopshoot.com]

Offering the ring to Elrond? (2)

John Harrison (223649) | more than 12 years ago | (#3894372)

Article is /.ed so I haven't read it, sorry.

Didn't this happen in the book? Doesn't Frodo offer the ring to all three of the bearers of the elven (elvish?) rings even though he doesn't know that they are ring-bearers? Doesn't it seem like this is an important detail that has been left out? He certainly offers it to the other two in the movie. Some would argue that he offers it to Aragorn as well, though I think he was asking if Aragorn would take it by force. In any case it didn't strike me as an offer as much as a query.

The council of Elrond was the one part of the movie that I didn't care for. I am not sure why this was. Maybe because in the context of the movie you don't know who the participants are.

Anyhow, imagine Agent Smith with two rings of power! Both his own ring and the one ring. I am sure that he would beat up on Keanu if he had both of them.

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