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Hitachi's Water-cooled Laptop

CmdrTaco posted more than 12 years ago | from the degrees-of-seperation dept.

Technology 228

surfacearea writes "The Register has an article about the new Flora 270W Silent Model, a Japan-only 1.8GHz water cooled laptop. Apparently the pump and piping is all held behind the LCD in the lid. I wonder how much extra weight that consumes." But best of all, it means now laptops have a chance to spring a leak!

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fp (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3917395)

for the children

Re:fp (-1, Offtopic)

GETerry (518033) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917512)

I can understand the mentallity of someone getting first crack at concert tickets,
or being first in line at the movies,
or first one to do a fine hottie,
but First Post for the sake of saying "First Post"...


Re:fp (-1, Offtopic)

govtcheez (524087) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917548)

And I'll unever nderstand why people browse at -1 and then bitch when they encounter trolls and crapflooders. Lighten the fuck up.

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Less chance to overheat (1)

bberg (516819) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917402)

This would be nice as I often tend to put my laptop in its insulated carying case before I turn it off. DOH!!

Re:Less chance to overheat (2)

scotch (102596) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917619)

The water cooling won't help you at all, but likely hurt you (bring on overheating faster). Depends on the effectivenesss of the insulation in your carrying case, though.

Re:Less chance to overheat (3, Informative)

morcheeba (260908) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917707)

Close, but not quite. The rate that heat is generated isn't a function of the cooling system; it's a function of the heat-disappating components (and, true, only a high-power processor would have a water-cooling system).

Given an insulated enclosure and non-stopable heat generation, the second best you can do is to evenly distribute the heat among all components (actually, the best you can do is distribute more heat to components that can take the heat - i.e. heat the aluminium just to the point of melting at the same time silicon reaches its melting temperature). A water cooling system would better distribute the heat (as opposed to when I did this- my poor little fan was running, but there was no air in my bag to move).

Re:Less chance to overheat (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3917697)

They should put a big warning sticker on laptops saying "KEEP AWAY FROM MORONS!"

fuck your water-cooled BULLSHIT (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3917404)

lameness has filtered my SHIT you faggots

for CLOT

Good excuse (4, Funny)

GigsVT (208848) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917411)

"Why did you take your laptop into the bathroom? Were you looking at porn?"


"Then what's that on the front of your pants?"

"Oh, the water cooling sprung a leak"

This will save marriages everywhere.

Re:Good excuse (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3917781)

Your wife would divorce you for beating off? What the fuck kind of marriage is that?

Sometimes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3917420)

You're probably thirsty enough to drink your laptop.

Compaq's suck (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3917424)

I have a compaq 715us which overheats like crazy. It reached a peak of 132 degree's before turning off. Keep in mind if you buy a laptop find out about how well it cools. I didn't research as well as I should have. -

Missing the point (5, Insightful)

Junks Jerzey (54586) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917428)

To me, this kind of thing strikes me as the wrong solution. I'd much rather see the emphasis on low power on low energy, rather than fixing this on the back end by coming up with a novel way of eliminating all the excess heat that is generated.

It's like saying "We found a way to reduce the emissions from SUVs," which ignores the fact that SUVs are grossly fuel inefficient in the first place.

Re:Missing the point (1)

tx_mgm (82188) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917467)

i agree
this only introduces more potential (and serious) problems to an already *very* disaster-prone type of system
i would imagine that since everything is packed so tightly together inside of one of these things that even a drip of water would cause catastrophic problems

Re:Missing the point (4, Insightful)

1000101 (584896) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917484)

The japanese company that is offering this laptop is creating a way for the end user to maximize current technology. It's up to Intel/AMD to come up with ways to reduce power consumption at 2.5 Ghz......

Re:Missing the point (3, Insightful)

Gyorg_Lavode (520114) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917488)

There isn't much laptop makers can do to make their computer components generate less heat. That is more on the hard drive and processor manufacturers.

Personally I think liquid cooling will slowly become standard in cooling because it is so efficient and can replace the cooling of all components of a computer. It is slowly dropping in price and the main hinterance is the inate resistance to putting liquid in a computer.

Re:Missing the point (1)

tcm614ce (570300) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917570)

Maybe you have a point...But...

From the mfgr. site it appears that they are marketing this laptop as silent and cool as well. Both plus-good in my book.

Re:Missing the point (1)

prof187 (235849) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917594)

You'd figure that engineers would have found a good way to turn this excess heat into energy. That should extend the life of the batter by a lot.

Re:Missing the point (2)

Moofie (22272) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917763)

The reason it's called "waste heat" is because it's really hard to do anything useful with it. Trust me. The laws of thermodynamics (particularly that entropy part) are stacked against you.

Yes, it is possible to get energy from waste heat...the efficiencies are just so incredibly low that it's rarely worth it.

Re:Missing the point (1)

Gyorg_Lavode (520114) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917783)

A way to generate eletricity from thermal energy would require a rather large amount of extra equipment in the computer/laptop adding to the price and size. For the efficiency obtainable I doubt it could be considered worth while. Also, whatever process was used would most likely require a working fluid which would not sit well with people who already don't like liquid cooling.

drip drip (4, Funny)

vinnythenose (214595) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917434)

Splish splah I was making a hack,
all on a Saturday night...

Re:drip drip (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3917455)

Sorry, that has got to be the lamest joke I have seen in a lot time.

Well maybe that sig siggity sig saroo thing, that was pretty fucking dumb too.

METAMOD THIS DoWN (-1, Offtopic)

gerf (532474) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917504)

for the love of god (or whatever in this day of the US gov't) can you say hella lame?

Re:METAMOD THIS DoWN (0, Offtopic)

Anonvmous Coward (589068) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917551)

"can you say hella lame?"

It's hard to be critical of jokes like drip's when most Slashdot people think that stale jokes about Windows crashing are funny.

Re:METAMOD THIS DoWN (-1, Offtopic)

gerf (532474) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917567)

HAHA windows crashing! oh, now i'll be trolled for this. and, oh my, they modded it up more. how asinine can you GET?!

Back to the Future (5, Funny)

Ashurnasipal (589537) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917438)

I still remember the DEC guys making fun of the water-pumping IBM mainframers - "I see your computer is down, have you called the plumber yet?"

Re:Back to the Future (1)

Ooblek (544753) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917592)

Or how about now when you get off the plane and have a wet spot on your crotch...."Was the toilet too busy or did your laptop leak?"

Re:Back to the Future (2)

Anonvmous Coward (589068) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917627)

For some inxeplicable reason, Nintendo fans hear jokes like that all the time too.

hey! (4, Funny)

mike77 (519751) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917442)

What about a beer cooled laptop? can drink it when things get bad and just get a refill at your local pub???? :)
oooh, imagine a beowulf cluster of those?


Re:hey! (0, Flamebait)

laserjet (170008) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917480)

Wow. You are very humor impaired. Did anyone else think this was remotely funny?

Re:hey! (1)

mike77 (519751) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917531)

why thank you, I truly appreciate the criticism.

Re:hey! (0, Offtopic)

Myco (473173) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917609)

Actually, "a Beowulf cluster of beer" is the first funny Beowulf cluster joke I've heard in a long time.

Re:hey! (2)

scotch (102596) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917643)

Do you mean anyone besides yourself? If not, your use of "else" is presumptuous. BTW, I found the post to be hella funny.

Re:hey! (0, Offtopic)

tx_mgm (82188) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917506)

hot beer?!?!
thats discusting!

Re:hey! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3917587)

It's beerwolf I think you'll find...

Re:hey! (4, Funny)

edgrale (216858) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917768)

You Americans are funny, only you would actually drink beer that has been used to cool your 1.8GHz laptop. Its bound to be _warm_, yuck :P

Less chance to overheat, BUT... (1)

cez (539085) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917443)

What about freezing? Any anti-freeze in there or strictly h20?

If You Hear a Woman Yell (0)

gerf (532474) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917445)

"My Water Broke!"

don't look up her skirt

well, right away... :-D

Re:If You Hear a Woman Yell (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3917740)

True geeks run away when they hear a woman yell she's horny.

Wrong market? (2, Insightful)

og_sh0x (520297) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917450)

Will this really sell in a purely Japanese market? The Japanese are more obsessed with small size and light weight. Seems like Americans and Europeans are more likely to add extra weight or size to get a quieter machine.

spring a leak? (3, Insightful)

laserjet (170008) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917456)

As usual, slashdot has sensationalized water cooling, and made it seem that springing a leak can be common with a system like this.

Water cooling has been around a long time, far pre dating computers. While it may be true that over clockers working on their own PCs in their dads' garages may spring a leak, in reality a commercial water cooling system this just doesn't happen.

Springing a leak with this system would be about as likely as your new air conditioner sprining a coolant leak. It simpley won't happen within the normal life span, and assuming you don't run over it with a car or drop it down an elevator shaft.

Re:spring a leak? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3917495)

Hey, my car's air conditioning sprung a leak in the coolant lines, they replaced the lines only to have it leak again

Re:spring a leak? (1)

func (183330) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917517)

Your air conditioner runs on freon, or perhaps r-22. It's a gas, and it's not so apparent when it springs a leak, it just doesn't work as well (or not at all) anymore.

Cars are mostly watercooled though, and I don't think I've had a car that didn't leak antifreeze at one time or another. They are a bit more complicated though.

That brings up another point - is there antifreeze in this laptop? That'd suck if I left it in the car by accident on one of those -56 deg C days we occasionally get. :) I imagine the tank would burst, just like a beer left in the freezer. Fun!

But still, water cooling is pretty powerful.

Re:spring a leak? (2)

karnal (22275) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917579)

Well, as far as cars, you're correct. They're a little more complicated.

I was going to make the point that with an automobile, you have massive amounts of "the elements" fighting the hoses, and they're usually rubber. After a good 7 year run, though, I've not had a single problem (other than the physical pump) on my vehicle.

I would imagine, in a sealed system, using either all metal or combination metal/plastic tubing, it could easily last a lifetime of a laptop. The only real concern I would have would be pump life, and monitoring of the "coolant flow" (not just the pump RPM, mind you, but actually measure the coolant flow through the tubes.) Some automobiles do this and actually increase the idle speed (off of the power steering pressure line).

Re:spring a leak? (1)

tx_mgm (82188) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917535)

1. my car air conditioning has a leak so bad that it would cost more than the car to fix it...these things do actually happen

2. if i understand correctly, the pump is behind the lcd. (obviously) the processor will be down under the keyboard...meaning the hose will be bending at the hinge for the screen (very often) tell me how thats not going to cause problems with the hose...

Re:spring a leak? (0)

Evil Adrian (253301) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917791)

How old is your car though? If it costs more than the car to replace the AC, chances are the car is beyond its expected life usage...

Re:spring a leak? (1)

shadow303 (446306) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917547)

Yeah, it kind of reminds me of the talk about AMD chips and heat sinks falling off. If you do it right, no problem, but if you're an idiot, any system is going to fail.

Re:spring a leak? (5, Funny)

isorox (205688) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917605)

ew air conditioner sprining a coolant leak.

Wouldnt it be cool to shout [b]coolant leek! We've got a coolant leek! Everyone out, lets go go go, and dive under a closing door?

Re:spring a leak? (0, Offtopic)

bafreer (592306) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917667)

mod this up, finally an original joke!

Re:spring a leak? (1, Funny)

sfled (231432) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917613)

While it may be true that over clockers working on their own PCs in their dads' garages may spring a leak, in reality a commercial water cooling system this just doesn't happen.

Yes, and while small watercraft may spring a leak, in reality a commercial ocean liner just can't sink.

Re:spring a leak? (4, Insightful)

pmz (462998) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917623) reality a commercial water cooling system this just doesn't happen.

Springing a leak with this system would be about as likely as your new air conditioner sprining a coolant leak. It simpley won't happen within the normal life span,...

??? Air conditioners, cars, toilets, any hydraulic systems...they spring leaks all the time. Usually, the leaks are small, and people put up with them by adding antifreeze to the resevior, hiring an HVAC technician to add refrigerant each year, etc. There is no reason to believe that a laptop would be any more immune to microcracks or bad gaskets than any other hydraulic system.

Re:spring a leak? (0)

subsimian (526551) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917789)

The amount of energy involved in circulating water around a computer, and that involved in those devices differ enormously. The amount of pressure exerted on the connections will be nominal. Most of the water you see on air conditioners is condensation caused by the cooling of surrounding water in the air.

Design and Leaks. (5, Insightful)

lionchild (581331) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917633)

While I tend to agree, the sensationalism of a leak springing from your laptop in the midst of a high-level confrence in some plush board room with a teak wood table isn't terribly likely. However, as noted, the coolant system runs up behind the LCD. That means that somewhere between the system board and the LCD, there's some flexing happening as you open and close the LCD on your laptop. Moving parts are potential failure points.

Let's all admit, how often have you picked up your laptop and held it by the LCD? For Joe User, it happens. Or how many times have you seen a User stacking reports and books on their laptop? More pressure on that LCD that's got the cooling system in it.

Apple had problems with their good looking Titaniums loosing connections when their cases flexed. If engineers don't look closely a real-world instances where users are going to flex things that really weren't meant to be're going to find the wear will cause a leak. Maybe not during your warranty period..but, say a couple months after it's over? Of course then, you'll need to go buy a new laptop, eh?

There's a gimmick.

Re:Design and Leaks. (1)

restauff (168301) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917677)

If Fluorinert were used as the coolant rather than water, it would minimize the risk of major damage being done to at least some of the components (though I still can't imagine an LCD screen would like getting wet). I believe it would also answer the question of the freezing point, as I believe the freeze point for fluorinert is somewhere substantially below 0 degree Celcius.

Coffee (1)

prof187 (235849) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917458)

...if you were talking the larger real estate of a water-cooled desktop machine the mod people could surely fit a couple of fish in

I'd like to see someone make a coffee perk out of it. Maybe cappacino (sp)...

Re:Coffee (2)

DrVxD (184537) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917649)

You mean like this? [] (which was featured on /. recently)

Illness (1)

ThereIsNoSporkNeo (587688) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917472)


I've had various computers; smoke, spit sparks, and make loud clattering noises before dying.

Now I have one that will start steaming.

I wonder if I could sue them if I spill hot water in my lap?...

water cooled 1.8GHz mobile Pentium 4,,, (1)

Surlyboi (96917) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917489)

That's all well and good, but what do you do with
the heavy water that results from cooling a nuclear
reactor like the P4? =D

THG video (5, Interesting)

dboyles (65512) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917491)

Tom's Hardware Guide [] has a pretty nifty video on installing a water-cooling system in a traditional, desktop system. IIRC, it not only cools the CPU, but also the GPU (graphics processing unit) as well as the motherboard's chipset.

Said video can be found here []

dangerous (0, Troll)

tps12 (105590) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917497)

I am not so sure this is a good idea. One very popular place to use laptops (other than Starbucks) is on airplanes, which have pressurized cabins. It seems like the increased pressure might weaken the piping system, causing leaks and failure. If I get one of these, I'll use a vacuum case for travelling with it.

Re:dangerous (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3917628)

What idiot modded this post down? He has an excellent point. I doubt that it would really spring a leak on an airplance, but it might...

Re:dangerous (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3917651)

welcome to slashdot, home of the crack smoking moderator

Old old old (1)

hexdcml (553714) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917502)

Isnt this pretty old news? Has the /. eds forgotten such a story which appeared several months back? I still remember the bad jokes about water on your lap etc...

bleh, I'm off to change my iTools address.. silly silly apple....

Re:Old old old (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3917515)

Don't be a dildo... that was several months ago.. bitch bitch bitch

Obviously no one here read the... (1)

bafreer (592306) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917520)

article. It specifically states that the water-cooling is not better at diccipating heat, but rather much quieter. Its juast a trade-off for the user, weight vs noise.

And for those of you that think water-cooling is a fancy new techno-toy, you've obviously never seen the spray of water pumping out the back of jetskis or boats.

Re:Obviously no one here read the... (0)

tx_mgm (82188) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917764)

oh, good. you can read japanese.
plase translate and post the article in english so that we have more to go on than pictures

Freezer (1)

gerf (532474) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917536)

there used to be that old trick of freezing your laptop to get the battery to last longer... might want a disclaimer to NOT do that

Re:Freezer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3917744)

freezing you laptop to make is last longer? that's retarded, cold wreaks havoc on batteries, if you lived in Canada you'd know that, I don't know how many times I've had to recharge my PDA or cellphone a few hours after charging them because I was just carrying them around in my jacket pocket in the winter.

Maintance (1)

I_am_Rambi (536614) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917541)

I have torn a part a laptop or two. The first thing to come is is the LCD monitor. How is the maintance working if you have to tear it apart? How would the insides be accesible?

Why is it water cooled? I have used a laptop for years and things have bumped the screen and I have tosseed it around. If I have pipes in the monitor area, most likely they would break, thos water would be going everywhere. O don't forget water on the motherboard. Well, I guess if springs a leak, I'll have to buy a new laptop. Over $2000 is washed down the drain when my laptop sprag a leak.

Re:Maintance (2)

Espen Skoglund (204722) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917577)

If I have pipes in the monitor area, most likely they would break, thos water would be going everywhere. O don't forget water on the motherboard. Well, I guess if springs a leak, I'll have to buy a new laptop.

I suppose the pipes in the monitor area are of some sort of plastic which doesn't break very easily. I also guess that instead of water one would prefer to use some sort of solution that would not cause harm to any hardware components if there should be a leak.

I have to ask... (5, Funny)

randomErr (172078) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917554)

I have to ask, what happens if you leave your laptop outside in the winter? I've have people leave their laptops in their car all the time. So what would happen this winter?

Re:I have to ask... (5, Funny)

danger42 (302987) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917582)

What happens if you leave your laptop outside in the winter?

Same thing that always happens. Someone steals it.

Re:I have to ask... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3917637)

It's called Anti-freeze.

Re:I have to ask... (2)

morcheeba (260908) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917758)

It's a japan-only model for exactly that reason [] . It'll be a long wait until it's available in []

Women & Open-Source Software, by Bitter Old Ma (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3917562)

I feel it is my duty to point out an interesting parallel I've found between two second-class societal entities: Women and open-source software. At first glance, one might think of the two as being not at all likely to be associated with each other, but a more thorough understanding demands a closer look.

Women have, throughout almost the entire length of history, been treated as second-class citizens. This is only fitting, as their physical and mental capabilties are both substantially below those of their male counterparts. Women are like open-source software hippies: They accomplish nothing and then complain about the second-class treatment they receive. Their achievements are limited, unremarkable, and in almost every instance, able to be completely surpassed by those of their male counterparts.

Take sports, for example: Why are there no women in the American NFL, NBA, NHL, or MLB? Feminists will shout loudly that it's because they're not allowed, but this is not true; the real reason is that there are no women skilled enough to compete against the highly competitive and infinitely more capable men. Even the strongest, bulkiest woman will crumple under the weight of a 350-pound linebacker colossus.

This brings me to another important observation: Women produce much less testosterone than men, and so, without artificial supplements, are doomed to weakness and incapability. They have barely any muscle to speak of; most women over 175 pounds are simply fat, whereas men are perfectly capable of achieving in excess of 250 pounds of pure, woman-crushing muscle.

Take scientific progress: Who invented the television? The automobile? The airplane? The light bulb? The steam engine? The automatic penis enlarger? Atomic energy? The Periodic Table of the Elements? Penicillin? Men, all men. What have women accomplished? Nothing. Nada.

Take intelligence. The great geniuses in history: Einstein. Picasso. Heisenberg. DaVinci. Hitler. Shakespeare. Fermat. Himmler. All men. Can you name even ONE female genius? Of course you can't, because none exist; there is no such thing as a female who doesn't live by riding the coattails of her smarter and more capable male counterpart.

Take the penis: Who has the penis? The man does, not the woman. The woman has a mere hole where the penis should be. No wonder women feel so subordinate and inferior: All the whining and excuses of the Feminist Left is merely a result of an extended case of penis envy.

But enough about women. How could all the evidence I've demonstrated possibly tie into the open-source software movement? A valid question!

The OSS proponent's incessant superiority complex, even when deep-down, he knows he is in last place, smacks of similarity with the woman's complaints of being in second place even when she knows she is nothing but an inferior, penis-lacking clone of her male counterpart.

Ever wonder why geeks hate Microsoft so much? It's because they're jealous; they know they can never even dream of accomplishing what Microsoft has. Microsoft is the OSS movement's Emmanuel Goldstein - the scapegoat for all that is wrong with OSS.

Ever wonder why women hate men so much? Now you understand.

I'm quite aware that the glimpse I've presented at how open-source software's never-ending and always-failing attempt to gain respect in the world is so similar to women's similar attempts to make up for their missing Y chromosome will be upsetting to many readers, but reality is not always cozy. Although women, like open-source software projects, are dramatically inferior, we men can comfort them by looking down on them with pity, holding doors for them (as they are too weak to do it themselves), and letting them suck on our penises, because they do want our cum, even when they say they don't.


Bitter Old Man, Ph. D.

270W? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3917568)

I hope that's not an abbreviation for 270 watts!

More info on the laptop (1)

yknott (463514) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917571)

Here [] is more information on this laptop. It's in japanese, but the pictures speak a thousand words.

The problem with fish... (1)

mdvlspwn99 (172473) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917578)

is that they'll take a dump in your water cooling tank, then if the tank ever breaks, you'll be sitting pretty in some watery filth.

What next for CPU cooling? Liquid Nitrogen! Haha.

I thought an interesting read on cooling was this technical blackpaper from arstechnica:

Peltier Theory []

Yay!!! (2)

Ilan Volow (539597) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917581)

My problem of having to go really badly while dealing with an overheating laptop has been solved.

Question (1)

greymond (539980) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917608)

on the articles comment about having fish in the water tubes - it made me wonder - has anyone made a sace mod featureing water and fish for there desktop - i'd imagine this wouldn't be to hard to do if you took one of the glas case mods and attached a fish bowl to the side of it -with the top being inside the system so you could see the fish from the outside - i think if i did i in my system the fish would die from heat - but just a thought.

The name "270W" (1)

The Creator (4611) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917616)

I'm sure many people are going to think "270 Watts no way, that's going to drain my 5000mAh 10.8v battery in 12 minutes!"

Water? (2)

RailGunner (554645) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917618)

Why would they use water instead of something that *wouldn't* conduct electricity?

I know there's got to be at least one liquid that doesn't conduct electricity that would be suitable for this.. hey - materials engineers, little help?

Re:Water? (4, Informative)

coreyb (125522) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917689)

Pure (distilled) water is actually a very poor conductor. It's all the impurities in solution that make most "water" into a conductor.

Re:Water? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3917800)

And how many impurities are there inside a laptop just waiting to dissolve in any leaking water?

Re:Water? (2, Informative)

llamalicious (448215) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917721)

Dude, pure, de-ionized water doesn't conduct electricity. Elec Co's use this type of water for spraying down the insulators on hi-voltage lines to clean off the accumulated grime (which does tend to conduct over time.)

I'm not saying they'll go that far in a laptop cooling system to filter water to such an extent, but it wouldn't suprise me.

Water is still bad for the components, but it doesn't always HAVE to conduct.

Re: Water? (2)

Tenebrious1 (530949) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917736)

I think whatever liquid they use, they should dye it red. And put in a chemical that reacts with oxygen so that it slowly coagulates. That way, when your laptop does spring a leak, it looks like it's bleeding...

Re:Water? (1)

shadow303 (446306) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917782)

I rememer hearing about some crazy guys imersing a motherboard in something made by 3M (fluorinert or something similiar to that). The trouble was the stuff was like $500 a gallon, oh... and it tended to gel up when they cooled it with liquid nitrogen.

Even MORE info (5, Interesting)

yknott (463514) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917625)

ITworld [] has more info on the laptop. To answer those who say this laptop will spring a leak:

"The solution can last for more than five years, the flexible tube can circulate the solution over 20,000 times and the pump works for more than 44,000 hours, the statement said."

And even if it does spring a leak:

"Plastic panels separate these water-cooling elements from high-voltage areas, in case of a solution leak from the cooling system. The Tokyo company also offers a three-year guarantee service for the product."

Sounds good to me!

Smoke'n (0)

mudpup (14555) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917630)

I had a laptop that developed a smoke leak;
when all the smoke leaked out;
it just quit working.

I've modded my boxen (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3917631)

I've modded my boxen by adding a water cooled system so I can increase my overclocking significantly (by a factor 0f 47%). It is really quite simple.

Obviously, the main problem to overcome was condensation on th outside of the lines, not the lines themselves springing a leak. Think about it.

Linux Conspiracy by poopbot (-1)

pwpbot (588025) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917638)

It has come to my attention that the entire Linux community is a hotbed of so called 'alternative sexuality,' which includes anything from hedonistic orgies to homosexuality to pedophilia.

What better way of demonstrating this than by looking at the hidden messages contained within the names of some of Linux's most outspoken advocates:
  • Linus Torvalds [] is an anagram of slit anus or VD 'L,' clearly referring to himself by the first initial.
  • Richard M. Stallman [] , spokespervert for the Gaysex's Not Unusual 'movement' is an anagram of mans cram thrill ad.
  • Alan Cox [] is barely an anagram of anal cox which is just so filthy and unchristian it unnerves me.

I'm sure that Eric S. Raymond, composer of the satanic homosexual [] propaganda diatribe The Cathedral and the Bizarre, is probably an anagram of something queer, but we don't need to look that far as we know he's always shoving a gun up some poor little boy's rectum. Update: Eric S. Raymond is actually an anagram for secondary rim and cord in my arse. It just goes to show you that he is indeed queer.

Update the Second: It is also documented that Evil Sicko Gaymond is responsible for a nauseating piece of code called Fetchmail [] , which is obviously sinister sodomite slang for 'Felch Male' -- a disgusting practise. For those not in the know, 'felching' is the act performed by two perverts wherein one sucks their own post-coital ejaculate out of the other's rectum. In fact, it appears that the dirty Linux faggots set out to undermine the good Republican institution of e-mail, turning it into 'e-male.'

As far as Richard 'Master' Stallman goes, that filthy fudge-packer was actually quoted [] on leftist commie propaganda site as saying the following: 'I've been resistant to the pressure to conform in any circumstance,' he says. 'It's about being able to question conventional wisdom,' he asserts. 'I believe in love, but not monogamy,' he says plainly.

And this isn't a made up troll bullshit either! He actually stated this tripe, which makes it obvious that he is trying to politely say that he's a flaming homo [] slut [] !

Speaking about 'flaming,' who better to point out as a filthy chutney ferret than Slashdot's very own self-confessed pederast Jon Katz. Although an obvious deviant anagram cannot be found from his name, he has already confessed, nay boasted of the homosexual [] perversion of corrupting the innocence of young children [] . To quote from the article linked:

'I've got a rare kidney disease,' I told her. 'I have to go to the bathroom a lot. You can come with me if you want, but it takes a while. Is that okay with you? Do you want a note from my doctor?'

Is this why you were touching your penis [] in the cinema, Jon? And letting the other boys touch it too?

We should also point out that Jon Katz refers to himself as 'Slashdot's resident Gasbag.' Is there any more doubt? For those fortunate few who aren't aware of the list of homosexual [] terminology found inside the Linux 'Sauce Code,' a 'Gasbag' is a pervert who gains sexual gratification from having a thin straw inserted into his urethra (or to use the common parlance, 'piss-pipe'), then his homosexual [] lover blows firmly down the straw to inflate his scrotum. This is, of course, when he's not busy violating the dignity and copyright of posters to Slashdot by gathering together their postings and publishing them en masse to further his twisted and manipulative journalistic agenda.

Sick, disgusting antichristian perverts, the lot of them.

In addition, many of the Linux distributions (a 'distribution' is the most common way to spread the faggots' wares) are run by faggot groups. The Slackware [] distro is named after the 'Slack-wear' fags wear to allow easy access to the anus for sexual purposes. Furthermore, Slackware is a close anagram of claw arse, a reference to the homosexual [] practise of anal fisting. The Mandrake [] product is run by a group of French faggot satanists, and is named after the faggot nickname for the vibrator. It was also chosen because it is an anagram for dark amen and ram naked, which is what they do.

Another 'distro,' (abbrieviated as such because it sounds a bit like 'Disco,' which is where homosexuals [] preyed on young boys in the 1970s), is Debian, [] an anagram of in a bed, which could be considered innocent enough (after all, a bed is both where we sleep and pray), until we realise what other names Debian uses to describe their foul wares. 'Woody' is obvious enough, being a term for the erect male penis [] , glistening with pre-cum. But far sicker is the phrase 'Frozen Potato' that they use. This filthy term, again found in the secret homosexual [] 'Sauce Code,' refers to the solo homosexual [] practice of defecating into a clear polythene bag, shaping the turd into a crude approximation of the male phallus, then leaving it in the freezer overnight until it becomes solid. The practitioner then proceeds to push the frozen 'potato' up his own rectum, squeezing it in and out until his tight young balls erupt in a screaming orgasm.

And Red Hat [] is secret homo [] slang for the tip of a penis [] that is soaked in blood from a freshly violated underage ringpiece.

The fags have even invented special tools to aid their faggotry! For example, the 'supermount' tool was devised to allow deeper penetration, which is good for fags because it gives more pressure on the prostate gland. 'Automount' is used, on the other hand, because Linux users are all fat and gay, and need to mount each other [] automatically.

The depths of their depravity can be seen in their use of 'mount points.' These are, plainly speaking, the different points of penetration. The main one is obviously /anus, but there are others. Militant fags even say 'there is no /opt mount point' because for these dirty perverts faggotry is not optional but a way of life.

More evidence is in the fact that Linux users say how much they love `man`, even going so far as to say that all new Linux users (who are in fact just innocent heterosexuals indoctrinated by the gay propaganda) should try out `man`. In no other system do users boast of their frequent recourse to a man.

Other areas of the system also show Linux's inherit gayness. For example, people are often told of the 'FAQ,' but how many innocent heterosexual Windows [] users know what this actually means. The answer is shocking: Faggot Anal Quest: the voyage of discovery for newly converted fags!

Even the title 'Slashdot [] ' originally referred to a homosexual [] practice. Slashdot [] of course refers to the popular gay practice of blood-letting. The Slashbots, of course are those super-zealous homosexuals [] who take this perversion to its extreme by ripping open their anuses, as seen on the site most popular with Slashdot users, the depraved work of Satan, [] .

The editors of Slashdot [] also have homosexual [] names: 'Hemos' is obvious in itself, being one vowel away from 'Homos.' But even more sickening is 'Commander Taco' which sounds a bit like 'Commode in Taco,' filthy gay slang for a pair of spreadeagled buttocks that are caked with excrement [] . (The best form of lubrication, they insist.) Sometimes, these 'Taco Commodes' have special 'Salsa Sauce' (blood from a ruptured rectum) and 'Cheese' (rancid flakes of penis [] discharge) toppings. And to make it even worse, Slashdot [] runs on Apache!

The Apache [] server, whose use among fags is as prevalent as AIDS, is named after homosexual [] activity -- as everyone knows, popular faggot band, the Village People, featured an Apache Indian, and it is for him that this gay program is named.

And that's not forgetting the use of patches in the Linux fag world -- patches are used to make the anus accessible for repeated anal sex even after its rupture by a session of fisting.

To summarise: Linux is gay. 'Slash -- Dot' is the graphical description of the space between a young boy's scrotum and anus. And BeOS [] is for hermaphrodites and disabled 'stumpers.'

What worries me is how much you know about what gay people do. I'm scared I actually read this whole thing. I think this post is a good example of the negative effects of Internet usage on people. This person obviously has no social life anymore and had to result to writing something as stupid as this. And actually take the time to do it too. Although... I think it was satire.. blah.. it's early. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

Well, the only reason I know all about this is because I had the misfortune to read the Linux 'Sauce code' once. Although publicised as the computer code needed to get Linux up and running on a computer (and haven't you always been worried about the phrase 'Monolithic Kernel'?), this foul document is actually a detailed and graphic description of every conceivable degrading perversion known to the human race, as well as a few of the major animal species. It has shocked and disturbed me, to the point of needing to shock and disturb the common man to warn them of the impending homo [] -calypse which threatens to engulf our planet.
You must work for the government. Trying to post the most obscene stuff in hopes that slashdot won't be able to continue or something, due to legal woes. If i ever see your ugly face, i'm going to stick my fireplace poker up your ass, after it's nice and hot, to weld shut that nasty gaping hole of yours. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

Doesn't it give you a hard-on to imagine your thick strong poker ramming it's way up my most sacred of sphincters? You're beyond help, my friend, as the only thing you can imagine is the foul penetrative violation of another man. Are you sure you're not Eric Raymond? The government, being populated by limp-wristed liberals, could never stem the sickening tide of homosexual [] child molesting Linux advocacy. Hell, they've given NAMBLA free reign for years!
you really should post this logged in. i wish i could remember jebus's password, cuz i'd give it to you. -- mighty jebus [] , Slashdot

Thank you for your kind words of support. However, this document shall only ever be posted anonymously. This is because the 'Open Sauce' movement is a sham, proposing homoerotic cults of hero worshipping in the name of freedom. I speak for the common man. For any man who prefers the warm, enveloping velvet folds of a woman's vagina [] to the tight puckered ringpiece of a child. These men, being common, decent folk, don't have a say in the political hypocrisy that is Slashdot culture. I am the unknown liberator [] .
ROLF LAMO i hate linux FAGGOTS -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

We shouldn't hate them, we should pity them for the misguided fools they are... Fanatical Linux zeal-outs need to be herded into camps for re-education and subsequent rehabilitation into normal heterosexual society. This re-education shall be achieved by forcing them to watch repeats of Baywatch until the very mention of Pamela Anderson [] causes them to fill their pants with healthy heterosexual jism [] .
Actually, that's not at all how scrotal inflation works. I understand it involves injecting sterile saline solution into the scrotum. I've never tried this, but you can read how to do it safely in case you're interested. (Before you moderate this down, ask yourself honestly -- who are the real crazies -- people who do scrotal inflation, or people who pay $1000+ for a game console?) -- double_h [] , Slashdot

Well, it just goes to show that even the holy Linux 'sauce code' is riddled with bugs that need fixing. (The irony of Jon Katz not even being able to inflate his scrotum correctly has not been lost on me.) The Linux pervert elite already acknowledge this, with their queer slogan: 'Given enough arms, all rectums are shallow.' And anyway, the PS2 [] sucks major cock and isn't worth the money. Intellivision forever!
dude did u used to post on msnbc's nt bulletin board now that u are doing anti-gay posts u also need to start in with anti-black stuff too c u in church -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

For one thing, whilst Linux is a cavalcade of queer propaganda masquerading as the future of computing, NT [] is used by people who think nothing better of encasing their genitals in quick setting plaster then going to see a really dirty porno film, enjoying the restriction enforced onto them. Remember, a wasted arousal is a sin in the eyes of the Catholic church [] . Clearly, the only god-fearing Christian operating system in existence is CP/M -- The Christian Program Monitor. All computer users should immediately ask their local pastor to install this fine OS onto their systems. It is the only route to salvation.

Secondly, this message is for every man. Computers know no colour. Not only that, but one of the finest websites in the world is maintained by a Black Man [] . Now fuck off you racist donkey felcher.
And don't forget that slashdot was written in Perl, which is just too close to 'Pearl Necklace' for comfort.... oh wait; that's something all you heterosexuals do.... I can't help but wonder how much faster the trolls could do First-Posts on this site if it were redone in PHP... I could hand-type dynamic HTML pages faster than Perl can do them. -- phee [] , Slashdot

Although there is nothing unholy about the fine heterosexual act of ejaculating between a woman's breasts, squirting one's load up towards her neck and chin area, it should be noted that Perl [] (standing for Pansies Entering Rectums Locally) is also close to 'Pearl Monocle,' 'Pearl Nosering,' and the ubiquitous 'Pearl Enema.'

One scary thing about Perl [] is that it contains hidden homosexual [] messages. Take the following code: LWP::Simple -- It looks innocuous enough, doesn't it? But look at the line closely: There are two colons next to each other! As Larry 'Balls to the' Wall would openly admit in the Perl Documentation, Perl was designed from the ground up to indoctrinate it's programmers into performing unnatural sexual acts -- having two colons so closely together is clearly a reference to the perverse sickening act of 'colon kissing,' whereby two homosexual [] queers spread their buttocks wide, pressing their filthy torn sphincters together. They then share small round objects like marbles or golfballs by passing them from one rectum to another using muscle contraction alone. This is also referred to in programming 'circles' as 'Parameter Passing.'

And PHP [] stands for Perverted Homosexual Penetration. Didn't you know?
Thank you for your valuable input on this. I am sure you will be never forgotten. BTW: Did I mention that this could be useful in terraforming Mars? Mars rulaa. -- Eimernase [] , Slashdot

Well, I don't know about terraforming Mars, but I do know that homosexual [] Linux Advocates have been probing Uranus for years.
That's inspiring. Keep up the good work, AC. May God in his wisdom grant you the strength to bring the plain honest truth to this community, and make it pure again. Yours, Cerberus. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

*sniff* That brings a tear to my eye. Thank you once more for your kind support. I have taken faith in the knowledge that I am doing the Good Lord [] 's work, but it is encouraging to know that I am helping out the common man here.

However, I should be cautious about revealing your name 'Cerberus' on such a filthy den of depravity as Slashdot. It is a well known fact that the 'Kerberos' documentation from Microsoft is a detailed manual describing, in intimate, exacting detail, how to sexually penetrate a variety of unwilling canine animals; be they domesticated, wild, or mythical. Slashdot posters have taken great pleasure in illegally spreading this documentation far and wide, treating it as an 'extension' to the Linux 'Sauce Code,' for the sake of 'interoperability.' (The slang term they use for nonconsensual intercourse -- their favourite kind.)

In fact, sick twisted Linux deviants are known to have LAN parties, (Love of Anal Naughtiness, needless to say.), wherein they entice a stray dog, known as the 'Samba Mount,' into their homes. Up to four of these filth-sodden blasphemers against nature take turns to plunge their erect, throbbing, uncircumcised members, conkers-deep, into the rectum, mouth, and other fleshy orifices of the poor animal. Eventually, the 'Samba Mount' collapses due to 'overload,' and needs to be 'rebooted.' (i.e., kicked out into the street, and left to fend for itself.) Many Linux users boast about their 'uptime' in such situations.
Inspiring stuff! If only all trolls were this quality! -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

If only indeed. You can help our brave cause by moderating this message up as often as possible. I recommend '+1, Underrated,' as that will protect your precious Karma in Metamoderation [] . Only then can we break through the glass ceiling of Homosexual Slashdot Culture. Is it any wonder that the new version of Slashcode has been christened 'Bender'???

If we can get just one of these postings up to at least '+1,' then it will be archived forever! Others will learn of our struggle, and join with us in our battle for freedom!
It's pathetic you've spent so much time writing this. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

I am compelled to document the foulness and carnal depravity [] that is Linux, in order that we may prepare ourselves for the great holy war that is to follow. It is my solemn duty to peel back the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wire brush of enlightenment.
As with any great open-source project, you need someone asking this question, so I'll do it. When the hell is version 2.0 going to be ready?!?! -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

I could make an arrogant, childish comment along the lines of 'Every time someone asks for 2.0, I won't release it for another 24 hours,' but the truth of the matter is that I'm quite nervous of releasing a 'number two,' as I can guarantee some filthy shit-slurping Linux pervert would want to suck it straight out of my anus before I've even had chance to wipe.
I desperately want to suck your monolithic kernel, you sexy hunk, you. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

I sincerely hope you're Natalie Portman [] .
Dude, nothing on slashdot larger than 3 paragraphs is worth reading. Try to distill the message, whatever it was, and maybe I'll read it. As it is, I have to much open source software to write to waste even 10 seconds of precious time. 10 seconds is all its gonna take M$ to whoop Linux's ass. Vigilence is the price of Free (as in libre -- from the fine, frou frou French language) Software. Hack on fellow geeks, and remember: Friday is Bouillabaisse day except for heathens who do not believe that Jesus died for their sins. Those godless, oil drench, bearded sexist clowns can pull grits from their pantaloons (another fine, fine French word) and eat that. Anyway, try to keep your message focused and concise. For concision is the soul of derision. Way. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

What the fuck?
I've read your gay conspiracy post version 1.3.0 and I must say I'm impressed. In particular, I appreciate how you have managed to squeeze in a healthy dose of the latent homosexuality you gay-bashing homos [] tend to be full of. Thank you again. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

Well bugger me!
ooooh honey. how insecure are you!!! wann a little massage from deare bruci. love you -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

Fuck right off!

IMPORTANT: This message needs to be heard (Not HURD [] , which is an acronym for 'Huge Unclean Rectal Dilator') across the whole community, so it has been released into the Public Domain [] . You know, that licence that we all had before those homoerotic crypto-fascists came out with the GPL [] (Gay Penetration License) that is no more than an excuse to see who's got the biggest feces-encrusted [] cock. I would have put this up on Freshmeat [] , but that name is known to be a euphemism for the tight rump of a young boy.

Come to think of it, the whole concept of 'Source Control' unnerves me, because it sounds a bit like 'Sauce Control,' which is a description of the homosexual [] practice of holding the base of the cock shaft tightly upon the point of ejaculation, thus causing a build up of semenal fluid that is only released upon entry into an incision made into the base of the receiver's scrotum. And 'Open Sauce' is the act of ejaculating into another mans face or perhaps a biscuit to be shared later. Obviously, 'Closed Sauce' is the only Christian thing to do, as evidenced by the fact that it is what Cathedrals are all about.

Contributors: (although not to the eternal game of 'soggy biscuit' that open 'sauce' development has become) Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, phee, Anonymous Coward, mighty jebus, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, double_h, Anonymous Coward, Eimernase, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward. Further contributions are welcome.

Current changes: This version sent to FreeWIPO [] by 'Bring BackATV' as plain text. Reformatted everything, added all links back in (that we could match from the previous version), many new ones (Slashbot bait links). Even more spelling fixed. Who wrote this thing, CmdrTaco himself?

Previous changes: Yet more changes added. Spelling fixed. Feedback added. Explanation of 'distro' system. 'Mount Point' syntax described. More filth regarding `man` and Slashdot. Yet more fucking spelling fixed. 'Fetchmail' uncovered further. More Slashbot baiting. Apache exposed. Distribution licence at foot of document.

- posted by poopbot: because we're all crapflooders at heart

lNWCK2p818 Post #299

Dell should adopt liquid cooling... (1, Funny)

rholland356 (466635) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917642)

to put out battery fires in its laptops.

Hmmm... (2, Informative)

Whispers_in_the_dark (560817) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917646)

Okay, I can't read whatever language the informational site is in (I assume Japanese but I woldn't know the difference to be hones). However, I can look at the pretty pictures ang get an idea of what's going on. Two things occur to me:
  • 1. It looks like there's a water pump in there. If that fails I assume you're going to have a toasty system (I'm assuming system shutdown would happen in that event).
  • 2. Wouldn't there be at least a little bit of "sloshing" back and forth as the device moved around. I couldn't get a feel for how much water is in there but if there was enough I might think you would get some counter-motion there. Better bring the Dramamine for the laptop I guess.
I figure I'm off base on these but I figured I'd bring 'em up anyway and see if the same occurred to anyone else.

Re:Hmmm... (1)

noodley (563532) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917723)

It's what they call a closed loop system. No air in the system at all, just water, and as such, no sloshing..

IMPORTANT! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3917653)

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  • Broken moderation system, The whole point is to sort the gems from the crap, yet a lot of posts designed to make a LIVELY DISCUSSION are MODERATED as flamebait! Come on, not everyone likes X, but just because some one bashes it dosent mean its Flamebait. Flame bait is more useful for DIRECT INSULTS and not legitmate discussions.
The "troll" moderation reason is fragmented and broken, why? Because they are trying to use an obsolete usenet term on a realtime discussion, "trolls" can cover a huge blanket of ideas.
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For more information. . . (2)

stevarooski (121971) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917706)

Slashdot recently [] discussed [] alternate notebook cooling solutions.

Looks like someone has beaten Hitachi and Sony to the punch.

Have you seen The Lain? (2)

bludstone (103539) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917728)

Bah.. Lain did this better with a liquid carbon cooling system. She had to pad the floor of her room with plastic in order to keep the water from condensation from ruining her house.

Now, everytime she needs to use her computer, she has to wade to the console.

Now, where did she get those nifty holographic projector screens?

Increased Weight...not really (2, Informative)

SMQ (241278) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917809)

For what it's worth, the Hitachi page lists the weight as 3.75kg, or about 8 1/4 pounds. (It's on the specs page, which is the second tab). That's only a few ounces more than my Dell Inspiron 8000.

Clever (2)

brad3378 (155304) | more than 12 years ago | (#3917811)

From a heat transfer perspective, cooling via the back of the screen is a clever idea.

when the base of a laptop needs to be cooled, it is often self-insulated by being placed against a table-top.

The front and back of the screen are exposed to ambient air.

The monitor effectively increases the mass of the heat-sink.

Area is increased.

All things being equal, convection will be more efficient on a vertical than a horizontal surface.

Liquid generally have a relatively high thermal capacity. The water pump will not need to run continuously - only long enough to exchange fluid - less noise.

Potential problems:

There is only one place I would expect to find a leak on this laptop - Near the hinge. I would pay special attention to the coolant connection here.

Mass. I have not yet looked, but I'm assuming that the coolant passages and water-pump will increase the mass of the laptop. (big assumption)

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