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554 comments

FP (-1)

govtcheez (524087) | about 12 years ago | (#3938236)

Both my posts today are FPs? It really is Troll Tuesday!

Re:FP (-1, Offtopic)

zapfie (560589) | about 12 years ago | (#3938282)

Keep up the good work. ;)

First Post! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3938240)

Wooo!

Compiled with gcc-3.1 (5, Insightful)

rnturn (11092) | about 12 years ago | (#3938244)

Well, someone had to be first to ship with this compiler. I wouldn't worry. Vendors will catch up.

Re:Compiled with gcc-3.1 (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3938301)

gentoo has had gcc3.1 support for a while, now almost official with its 1.3 release

Re:Compiled with gcc-3.1 (1)

Clue4All (580842) | about 12 years ago | (#3938329)

They're actually using GCC 3.1.1 from CVS now and will include the official 3.1.1 in 9.0. I wouldn't worry to much about vendors, either.

Re:Compiled with gcc-3.1 (3, Insightful)

FU_Fish (140910) | about 12 years ago | (#3938343)

I agree, if somebody doesn't step up and start using 3.x, we'll probably all be stuck 2.9x forever. Thank you Mandrake (and Gentoo).

Re:Compiled with gcc-3.1 (2)

BrookHarty (9119) | about 12 years ago | (#3938429)

Been using GCC 3.1 on my 7.3 SuSE Sparc install (sunblade 100) for months. They had the RPMS out for awhile, just upgrade and go, it even compiles the kernel. Very nice, alot of compile problems have went away with GCC 3.1.

Re:Compiled with gcc-3.1 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3938353)

That's great, but gcc-3.1 totally break's Kai's PhotoSoap, which I use every day in my job as graphic designer. Sorry, I love Mandrake, but I'm not going to upgrade until they squish that GCC bug.

WTF??? (2)

Andy Dodd (701) | about 12 years ago | (#3938449)

How can GCC break Kai's PhotoSoap???

PhotoSoap is a Windows application, it didn't run under Linux (except for maybe under WINE) to begin with.

Re:Compiled with gcc-3.1 (1)

MCZapf (218870) | about 12 years ago | (#3938362)

Red Hat's current beta also uses gcc 3.1, right? If so, that's another big distro on top of things - and one vendors tend to single out anyway.

linuxgames? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3938425)

So, Quake 3 and kohan work with this new version of gcc?

Re:Compiled with gcc-3.1 (1)

(startx) (37027) | about 12 years ago | (#3938469)

not to nit pick, but gcc-3.0 was in contrib/ in slackware 8, and 3.1 was in extra/ in 8.1

Re:Compiled with gcc-3.1 (1)

Sunrun (553558) | about 12 years ago | (#3938486)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't MacOS X 10.2 also shipping with gcc-3.1, and wasn't that before today?

Sweet (2)

Uttles (324447) | about 12 years ago | (#3938246)

Now, will HardDrake support USB HomePNA devices or is that still left out in the dark?

no usb driver planned (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3938385)

look on google for drivers and there's a faq from the homepna ppl or whoever that sez that they rnt planning usb drivers :(

Re:no usb driver planned (2)

Uttles (324447) | about 12 years ago | (#3938413)

Yes, I looked, did a lot of research. The HomePNA hardware dealers are in fact not planning Linux drivers for their USB devices. 2wire (http://www.2wire.com) doesn't even have linux drivers for any of their hardware. Lots of hardware, however, is hacked by misc Linux gurus out there and so I was just hoping Mandrake had gotten a submission to the HardDrake library for these devices.

Re:Sweet (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3938442)

why the hell would ANYONE use home PNA?
it sucks with every turn.
everything about it sucks.

dont use it, and if you bought hardware, sorry for you wasting that money as you could have had someone pull CAT5 or yourself pull cat5 just as easily/cheaply.

Gpl Code (-1, Offtopic)

newton34 (542785) | about 12 years ago | (#3938248)

If I distribute code containing function calls that need to be resolved at link time, there is no way the license of my code can be governed by the license of libraries against which others may (or not) care to link it. For example: Suppose code happens to work if you link it against the GPL'd "readline"; theres no way of knowing that I didn't intend it to be linked against, say a public domain replacement for readline, so the GPL cannot possibly govern my code. Theres no guarantee I've used readline, I may have never seen the code, or the license, let alone agreed to their conditions, so they can't possibly apply to me.

(OT) say so in your README (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3938394)

theres no way of knowing that I didn't intend it to be linked against, say a public domain replacement for readline

If you want to link to a PD or BSD licensed readline clone, say so in your README. However, I don't think you'll find one in Mandrake 9.

Question (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3938252)

Why dosen't Redhat complie for i586 like mandrake? Is there a difference?

Re:Question (2, Informative)

FU_Fish (140910) | about 12 years ago | (#3938360)

I can't believe that RedHat is still compiling their new releases for i386 either. They need to step up. It just seems like a waste to continue to release new distributions compiled for 386s.

Re:Question (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3938398)

I think it looks cooler to have my login herald say ".. for i586".

Re:Question (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3938414)

For 99.999% of the code out there, no there isn't.

AFAIK all distributions (including Red Hat, SuSE, Slackware, etc) use something along like -march=i386 -mcpu=i686 which optimizes for that arch without using any instructions that would render the binaries incompatible with lesser-than-i686 CPUs.

Re:Question (1)

Merlin_1102 (594400) | about 12 years ago | (#3938426)

to my knowledge there is not a big difference, but I could be wrong. I think that the i586 or any other 86 is just optimized for a specfic type of x86 model where as the i386 is compatible with all intel models... So essentially using or compiling for the i586 model means that it is not backwards compatible. I state again im not 100% sure if that right or not.

Heh.. (5, Funny)

iONiUM (530420) | about 12 years ago | (#3938259)

CD switching during the installation causes some problems. When a new CD is requested, clicking the "cancel" button may lead the installation process into an infinite loop.

I'm glad they tell you this, basically once you start installing you're getting linux whether you change your mind or not ;-).

Oh well, it's better than a lot of microsoft's installs at least, where it does this with the "next" button instead of the "cancel" button.

Re:Heh.. (1)

axis-techno-geek (70545) | about 12 years ago | (#3938434)

Installing from CD! How... 90's, get the DVD-ROm, then their is no swaping :)

mdk-82 and proud of it!

Re:Heh.. (0)

angelkey (590280) | about 12 years ago | (#3938515)

I often wonder if we are using the same Windows. It surprises me that you can command-line Linux to do anything and yet can't get a stable install of Win2k/WinXP/WinNT working. Wierd.

Glad to hear (3, Informative)

dciman (106457) | about 12 years ago | (#3938261)

I'm always glad to hear about a new release from Mandrake. Although I personally use Debian, Mandrake has always done an excellent job of promoting useability with their distro. Not to mention what is often the best hardware suport out of the box that I have seen. Granted it isa bit bloated unless you do the expert instal. But I think it is targeted at exactly the right market, and is an easy way for people with out lots of experience to get some of the newest goodies out there.

Re:Glad to hear (1)

linzeal (197905) | about 12 years ago | (#3938333)

It is by far the best distro I have ever used out of the box for a laptop for hardware compatibility.

This is good stuff (2, Funny)

mblase (200735) | about 12 years ago | (#3938383)

Okay, let me be clear from the beginning: I'm not a Linux user. I've only got so much computer hardware, and most of it is old Macintoshes with puny hard drives. I now have Mac OS X on my newest machine, and if I ever get the urge to start tinkering with UNIX goodies that's where I'll begin.

So I don't own, or use, Linux. But I've resolved to make Mandrake my distro when and if I decide to give it a try.

Not just because Mandrake's got a nearly-current PPC distro to go with their Intel-compatible ones, although that was what got their name to me in the first place. It's because they're packed with features, lots of options, both GNOME and K desktops, and an easy installation. If I were to put a Linux machine in front of my wife or daughter, it would be this one.

And now they've got v9.0 coming out the door. Nice. I know that you can't do everything with Linux that you can with a current Mac or PC; everyone knows that. But it looks like Mandrake covers all the essential bases -- internet, office, customizability, multimedia. I could give a family member this distro and they'd be able to do just about everything they needed.

If there's any Linux that's ready for the consumers, it's this one. Mandrake deserves to be known as the hardest-working distro development company as far as sheer user-friendliness is concerned. I'm glad it's free, but they're clearly worth the money.

Re:Glad to hear (2)

Skyshadow (508) | about 12 years ago | (#3938424)

I use Red Hat personally (I know, boo, hiss), but I have used Mandrake and I believe it will eventually be far and away the best desktop distro.

It's true that the install is somewhat bloated, but then again it seems like most desktop OS's are -- they tack on a lot of functionality that you might need just in case, sometime down the road, you do need it. IMO, this isn't such a problem with incredibly large desktop hard drives being so inexpensive.

Besides that, though, Mandrake has always seemed to have the end user in mind -- they were the first with a nifty GUI update feature, they were the first to introduce some of the simple programs to update config files (what can I say, vi scares some people), etc. Hopefully, in the longer run, this sort of emphesis will pay off on the desktop.

Remember: Just because Linux sucks on the desktop right now doesn't mean that it always will. Linux is an evolutionary product, and as such should eventually adapt to fill all niches (although not necessarily in the same form).

Re:Glad to hear (1)

JamesGreenhalgh (181365) | about 12 years ago | (#3938467)

I dunno - try SuSE 8.0, it spotted everything on:

1: Dell desktop machine, with TNT2 card on PCI bus overriding crap on-board Mach64.

2: Home machine, built from spares. Twin cpu, onboard scsi, onboard IDE, megaraid, USB camera, voodoo3

3: Dell server, brand new percraid raid card, problematic e1000 based intel network ports (dual)

It 'just worked' on all of the above, and was childs play to get installed and configured.

I'm extremely impressed :)

In case it gets slashdotted...... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3938264)

Posted by michael on Tuesday July 23, @01:20PM
from the keep-both-pieces-when-it-breaks dept.
leviramsey writes "MandrakeSoft has released the first beta of the next version of its distribution. It features XFree86 4.2, KDE 3.0, GNOME 2.0, and is compiled with gcc-3.1, which (alas) makes it incompatible with a fair amount of commercial software."

java (3, Interesting)

dlb (17444) | about 12 years ago | (#3938265)

* Java support is broken. Reason: The currently available Java is not compiled with GCC 3.1 and therefore does not work with our packages.
What is so imperative about going to gcc 3.1 that you have to break java?

Re:java (2)

SomeOtherGuy (179082) | about 12 years ago | (#3938297)

Can't Java be compiled against 3.1?

Re:java (1)

dlb (17444) | about 12 years ago | (#3938332)

If it can, why didn't they compile java against 3.1 before they packaged it in?

Re:java (1)

JebusIsLord (566856) | about 12 years ago | (#3938382)

Yes, you can compile the Sun JRE from source provided you have a compiled copy of the JRE to fulfill it's circular dependency. Then it apparently works fine. This is what is unfortunately necessary with Gentoo 1.3+ right now. You are still hooped on flash support though.

Re:java (5, Informative)

Garion911 (10618) | about 12 years ago | (#3938509)

Yep, I have compiled Java with 3.1 (using the 2.95 comipiled one first of course.)

You will need a patch to compile Java too, read here for directions:

http://hints.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/javafrom sc ratch.txt

Also, you CAN get flash to work, there's a post in gentoo's message boards on how to do this:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=4753

Hope this helps.

Re:java (2, Insightful)

Clue4All (580842) | about 12 years ago | (#3938309)

What's is so imperative about Java that you don't want to use the best version of GCC out there? (They're actually using 3.1.1 and will have the final release in 9.0)

Re:java (1)

Requiem (12551) | about 12 years ago | (#3938348)

Some of us program pretty heavily in the language.

Re:java (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3938478)

GCC affects a helluva lot more things in a distribution than Sun's Java package does.

Re:java (1, Offtopic)

the MaD HuNGaRIaN (311517) | about 12 years ago | (#3938419)

My browser (mozilla) isn't RETARDED....but that link in your post sure as hell is.

Re:java (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3938493)

Haha, it got you too, did it?

Re:java (1)

dlb (17444) | about 12 years ago | (#3938421)

Well, if you're not a java developer and arent heavily involved in java it shouldnt matter... oh and if you're not using Mandrake as your desktop and dont care about using the VM as part of your web browsing, it shouldn't matter either.

No reason, I guess.

Re:java (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3938423)

your sig is retarded- what's the point of a blank page?

Re:java (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3938517)

The name of the object tag is "dosIE." I know you can do it, try to put 2 and 2 together. Come on, I have faith in you, think really hard...

Re:java (2, Informative)

spencerogden (49254) | about 12 years ago | (#3938349)

The most important difference is that 3.1 does a much better job at c++, which makes a huge difference in KDE

Re:java (2)

southpolesammy (150094) | about 12 years ago | (#3938359)

You still have two options -- get the powers-that-be to compile and release a VM with gcc-3.1 compatibility, or don't use Mandrake 9.0b1. It's the same situation that Windows users find themselves in all the time, but this time it happens in the Linux world and we wonder what the fix is....

Re:java (1)

HisMother (413313) | about 12 years ago | (#3938392)

Here they're talking about GNU Java, not about Sun's Linux JVM. Download that, and it works just fine.

but not in mozilla (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3938418)

to use java plugins, you'd hafta get packages of mozilla that were compiled with the same gcc version that sun used

Re:java (1)

nikal (141824) | about 12 years ago | (#3938437)

The important thing is the gcc3.1 is by far a better compiler than the other gcc releases.

* 3.1 has a much more complete STL implementation
* 3.1 enforces namespaces as they are supposed to be.
* 3.1 generates by far more optimized code.

Any one of those reasons is good enough for me to make the switch; I've been using 3.1 for a few months now.

Re:java (2)

extrasolar (28341) | about 12 years ago | (#3938438)

Who runs java apps, anyway?

Re:java (1)

FU_Fish (140910) | about 12 years ago | (#3938446)

Install the official JDK, I'm pretty sure that'll still work. I know for a fact that the IBM jdk for linux works w/ gcc 3.x.

What is so imperative about going to gcc 3.1 that you have to break java?

The fact that it has better c++ support, produces more highly optimized code, and everyone will be moved to it soon anyways. There's no good reason, IMHO, not to switch to gcc3.x....including java...and I'm a java developer by trade.

preorder a DVD and get a free hat (3, Funny)

npietraniec (519210) | about 12 years ago | (#3938270)

preorder a DVD and get a free hat... Doesn't sound like a bad deal to me. http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/90dvdedition.php3

Re:preorder a DVD and get a free hat (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3938312)

I found an even better deal! Download it and save $55!

Re:preorder a DVD and get a free hat (1)

rmadmin (532701) | about 12 years ago | (#3938403)

Geek goods are great. Nothing like walking around in a Walmart with a Linux shirt on when the 300+ people around you haven't even heard of Linux, let alone know who that Tux fellow is. =P Good ole Iowa. :-D

Hrm.. Time to hit Thinkgeek again.

Re:preorder a DVD and get a free hat (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3938470)

Free Hat ! Free Hat ! Free hat !

One step forward... (-1, Troll)

C.U.T.M. (595268) | about 12 years ago | (#3938276)

"... is compiled with gcc-3.1, which (alas) makes it incompatible with a fair amount of commercial software."

Sometimes one step forward ends up being two steps backward.

A Mandrake fan cries... (2, Funny)

mikehunt (225807) | about 12 years ago | (#3938278)

Just as I am about to go on holiday without a single computer in sight, Mandrake release a new beta.

How can they do this to me?!!!

Which apps won't work with gcc-3.1? (4, Insightful)

Archie Steel (539670) | about 12 years ago | (#3938281)

Is there a way to find out? I know it's still early, but I just want to find out if I should be excited about Mdk9.0 yet...

My Mandrake Experience (-1, Troll)

LordYUK (552359) | about 12 years ago | (#3938293)

I once installed mandrake (about 3 months ago)... it was sooo coool, it even had this program where you click on it and the computer went "blah" and died (kinda like how windows does with 90% of its software!). It was called "the Gimp". Now, I had never installed a linux distro before, so I figured this was the "kill" switch. Later I discovered that its an actual program akin to PS. Never will I use Mandrake for anything other than a frisbee

Re:My Mandrake Experience (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3938317)

You are stupid and should not be permitted in cyberspace. LOOSER!

Wow, 9.0 so soon? (2, Insightful)

colmore (56499) | about 12 years ago | (#3938298)


I feel like 8.x went by as I blinked.

they've really been churning them out lately.

Re:Wow, 9.0 so soon? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3938364)

The Mandrake CEO says "we plan to have a new release every 6 months".

Re:Wow, 9.0 so soon? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3938367)

this is insiteful?
wouldnt it be better if he said something ya know worthwhile?

Re:Wow, 9.0 so soon? (1)

Jacer (574383) | about 12 years ago | (#3938378)

Yes, Mandrake is making an effort to stay current, and doing a hell of a job with it too!

Re:Wow, 9.0 so soon? (1)

bcwengerter (416056) | about 12 years ago | (#3938400)

they've really been churning them out lately.
Meanwhile, at the Mandrake Linux News [mandrakelinux.com] page:
March 18th, 2002 - Mandrake Linux 8.2 is available!
July 23rd, 2002 - Mandrake Linux 9.0 Beta 1 appears
A little over four months? Yeah, I'd say so. :-)

Re:Wow, 9.0 so soon? (1)

brsmith4 (567390) | about 12 years ago | (#3938457)

Aren't you glad its not like debian? :o

But it's free (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3938302)

Who cares if all the apps are broken now, it costs $0! "Linux is free only if your time has no value."

Hurry, mod that bastard down! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3938339)

Because the truth really hurts!

Fair amount of commercial software (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3938305)

Linux has a fair amount of commercial software?

Where's the love? (0, Flamebait)

Storm Damage (133732) | about 12 years ago | (#3938306)

Mandrake puts out a beta, and it gets front-page coverage, but Debian Woody finally goes gold [debianplanet.org] , and Rob isn't all over it? I know there was a Debian article [slashdot.org] last week and all, but I'd think that after almost 2 years this would be a significant cause for cheerleading and celebration!

Re:Where's the love? (3, Funny)

ajakk (29927) | about 12 years ago | (#3938387)

I bet you are one of these people who complain when duplicate stories are posted saying, "The least they could do is run a search on /." Amazingly, when I ran a search for "debian", the first thing I found was the announcement that Woody went gold [slashdot.org] . There were only 490 comments on the article.

Re:Where's the love? (1)

Storm Damage (133732) | about 12 years ago | (#3938461)

Well would you look at that...

Amazingly, I did check the archives...probably should have searched, but I skimmed through the older articles to make sure I hadn't missed it while I was looking for the Importance of Being Debian link...

Now I'm gonna run off to get my eyes checked and cut my belly.

(and I could have sworn I freshened up on the latest headlines Friday evening, too...weird)

Re:Where's the love? (2)

Cyph (240321) | about 12 years ago | (#3938393)

There was a story about it, check it out here. [slashdot.org]

Re:Where's the love? (1)

thonot (226019) | about 12 years ago | (#3938420)

Mandrake puts out a beta, and it gets front-page coverage, but Debian Woody finally goes gold, and Rob isn't all over it? I know there was a Debian article last week and all, but I'd think that after almost 2 years this would be a significant cause for cheerleading and celebration!


Well, if you had searched [slashdot.org] before asking that question, you would have found this [slashdot.org] at the top of the results, and it was on the front page.

Re:Where's the love? (1)

Guspaz (556486) | about 12 years ago | (#3938440)

Woody is outdated out of the box. KDE 2.2 instead of 3.02, Gnome 1.4 instead of 2.0 or whatever, XFree 4.1 instead of 4.2 or whatever... Woody doesn't seem to have ANY up-to-date software.

Regards, Guspaz.

Mandrake Rocks (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3938307)

I have been using Mandrake now for about 3 years and absolutely love it. I am one of those people who will actually go out and purchase the retail packages of the software and Mandrake is the only one I have bought every major release of over the past 3 years though I have bought a couple of redhats and a suse once. Keep up the good work ladies and nerds!

Ray Moore/Puff N Stuff

Getup and get down (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3938315)

Late 911 joke in your town

-Flavor Flav

ECI-ADSL (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3938316)

despite all my ranting they haven't included the eci adsl [slashdot.org] It works great and supports loads of USB ADSL modems.

HURRAY MANDRAKE (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3938347)

Good job Mandrake. It is nice to see you doing so well.

mirrors (3, Informative)

dotgod (567913) | about 12 years ago | (#3938365)

Australia

ftp://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/Mandrake/8.2/i586/ [planetmirror.com] (Brisbane)
Austria

ftp://ftp.univie.ac.at/systems/linux/Mandrake/8.2/ i586/ [univie.ac.at] (Vienna)

ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/pub/linux/Mandrake/8.2/i586/ [tuwien.ac.at] (Vienna)
Belgium

ftp://ftp.belnet.be/packages/mandrake/8.2/i586/ [belnet.be]
Costa Rica

ftp://ftp.ucr.ac.cr/pub/Unix/linux/mandrake/Mandra ke/8.2/i586/ [ucr.ac.cr]
Czech Republic

ftp://ftp.cesnet.cz/OS/Linux/Mandrake/mandrake/8.2 /i586/ [cesnet.cz] (Brno)

ftp://ftp.fi.muni.cz/pub/linux/mandrake/8.2/i586/ [fi.muni.cz] (Brno)

ftp://klobouk.fsv.cvut.cz/pub/linux-mandrake/Mandr ake/8.2/i586/ [fsv.cvut.cz] (Prague)

ftp://mandrake.redbox.cz/Mandrake/8.2/i586/ [redbox.cz]

ftp://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/OS/Linux/Dist/Mandrake/m andrake/8.2/i586/ [mff.cuni.cz] (Prague)

http://ftp.fi.muni.cz/pub/linux/mandrake/8.2/i586/ [fi.muni.cz] (Brno)
Denmark

ftp://ftp.dkuug.dk/pub/mandrake/8.2/i586/ [dkuug.dk] (Koebenhavn)

ftp://ftp.sunsite.dk/mirrors/mandrake/8.2/i586/ [sunsite.dk] (Aalborg)
Estonia

ftp://ftp.aso.ee/pub/os/Linux/distributions/mandra ke/8.2/i586/ [ftp.aso.ee]
Finland

ftp://ftp.song.fi/pub/linux/Mandrake/8.2/i586/ [ftp.song.fi] (Espoo)
France

ftp://ftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/mandrake/8.2/i586/ [ciril.fr] (Nancy)

ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/unix/linux/distribu tions/Mandrake/8.2/i586/ [club-internet.fr] (Paris)

ftp://ftp.info.univ-angers.fr/pub/linux/distributi ons/mandrake/8.2/i586/ [univ-angers.fr] (Angers)

ftp://ftp.lip6.fr/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake /8.2/i586/ [lip6.fr] (Paris)

ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandr ake/8.2/i586/ [proxad.net] (Paris)

ftp://ftp.u-strasbg.fr/pub/linux/distributions/man drake/8.2/i586/ [u-strasbg.fr] (Strasbourg)

ftp://linux.ups-tlse.fr/Mandrake/8.2/i586/ [ups-tlse.fr] (Toulouse)
Germany

ftp://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/Mandra ke/8.2/i586/ [fht-esslingen.de] (Esslingen)

ftp://ftp.de.uu.net/pub/linux/mandrake/8.2/i586/ [uu.net]

ftp://ftp.fh-giessen.de/pub/linux/mandrake/8.2/i58 6/ [fh-giessen.de] (Giessen)

ftp://ftp.fh-wolfenbuettel.de/pub/os/linux/mandrak e/dist/8.2/i586/ [fh-wolfenbuettel.de] (Wolfenbuettel)

ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/mandrake/8.2/i586/ [ftp.gwdg.de] (Goettingen)

ftp://ftp.join.uni-muenster.de/pub/linux/distribut ions/mandrake/8.2/i586/ [uni-muenster.de] (Muenster)

ftp://ftp.leo.org/pub/comp/os/unix/linux/Mandrake/ Mandrake/8.2/i586/ [leo.org] (Munchen)

ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/mandrake/8.2/i5 86/ [tu-chemnitz.de] (Chemnitz)

ftp://ftp.tu-clausthal.de/pub/linux/mandrake/8.2/i 586/ [tu-clausthal.de] (Clausthal)

ftp://ftp.uasw.edu/pub/os/linux/mandrake/dist/8.2/ i586/ [uasw.edu] (Wolfenbuettel)

ftp://ftp.uni-bayreuth.de/pub/linux/Mandrake/8.2/i 586/ [uni-bayreuth.de] (bayreuth)

ftp://ftp.uni-kassel.de/pub/linux/mandrake/8.2/i58 6/ [uni-kassel.de] (Kassel)

ftp://ftp.uni-mannheim.de/systems/linux/mandrake/8 .2/i586/ [uni-mannheim.de] (Mannheim)

ftp://ftp.vat.tu-dresden.de/pub/Mandrake/8.2/i586/ [tu-dresden.de] (Dresden)

ftp://ramses.wh2.tu-dresden.de/pub/mirrors/mandrak e/8.2/i586/ [tu-dresden.de] (Dresden)

ftp://sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/Linux/ mandrake/8.2/i586/ [rwth-aachen.de] (Aachen)
Greece

ftp://ftp.duth.gr/pub/Mandrake/8.2/i586/ [ftp.duth.gr] (Thrace)

ftp://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/linux/mandrake/8.2/i586/ [ftp.ntua.gr] (Athens)
Hong Kong

ftp://ftp.wisr.eie.polyu.edu.hk/linux/mandrake/8.2 /i586/ [polyu.edu.hk]
Hungary

ftp://ftp.linuxforum.hu/mirror/Mandrake/8.2/i586/ [linuxforum.hu]
Ireland

ftp://ftp.esat.net/pub/linux/mandrake/8.2/i586/ [esat.net]
Italy

ftp://bo.mirror.garr.it/mirrors/Mandrake/8.2/i586/ [mirror.garr.it] (Bologna)

ftp://ftp.edisontel.it/pub/Mandrake_Mirror/Mandrak e/8.2/i586/ [edisontel.it]
Latvia

ftp://ftp.latnet.lv/linux/mandrake/8.2/i586/ [latnet.lv]
Netherlands

ftp://ftp.nl.uu.net/pub/linux/mandrake/8.2/i586/ [uu.net]

ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/Mandrake/Man drake/8.2/i586/ [nluug.nl]

ftp://ftp.surfnet.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/Mandrake/M andrake/8.2/i586/ [surfnet.nl]

ftp://ftp.wau.nl/pub/Mandrake/8.2/i586/ [ftp.wau.nl] (Wageningen)
Poland

ftp://ftp.ps.pl/mirrors/mandrake/8.2/i586/ [ftp.ps.pl] (Szczecin)

ftp://ftp.task.gda.pl/pub/linux/Mandrake/8.2/i586/ [task.gda.pl] (Gdansk)
Portugal

ftp://ftp.dei.uc.pt/pub/linux/Mandrake/Mandrake/8. 2/i586/ [dei.uc.pt] (Coimbra)

ftp://tux.cprm.net/pub/Mandrake/8.2/i586/ [cprm.net]
Russia

ftp://ftp.chg.ru/pub/Linux/mandrake/8.2/i586/ [ftp.chg.ru] (Chernogolovka)
Singapore

ftp://ftp.singnet.com.sg/opensource/linux/Mandrake /8.2/i586/ [singnet.com.sg]
Slovakia

ftp://spirit.profinet.sk/mirrors/Mandrake/8.2/i586 / [profinet.sk] (Bratislava)
Spain

ftp://ftp.cesga.es/pub/linux/Mandrake/8.2/i586/ [cesga.es] (Galicia)

ftp://ftp.cica.es/pub/Linux/Mandrake/8.2/i586/ [ftp.cica.es] (Sevilla)

ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandr ake/8.2/i586/ [rediris.es]
Sweden

ftp://ftp.chello.se/pub/Linux/Mandrake/8.2/i586/ [chello.se]

ftp://ftp.chl.chalmers.se/pub/Linux/distributions/ Mandrake/8.2/i586/ [chalmers.se] (Gothenburg)

ftp://ftp.du.se/pub/os/mandrake/8.2/i586/ [ftp.du.se] (Dalarma)
Switzerland

ftp://ftp.pcds.ch/pub/Mandrake/8.2/i586/ [ftp.pcds.ch] (Neuhausen)

ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/mandrake/8.2/ i586/ [cnlab-switch.ch] (Zurich)
Taiwan

ftp://linux.cdpa.nsysu.edu.tw/pub/Mandrake/mandrak e/8.2/i586/ [nsysu.edu.tw]

ftp://linux.csie.nctu.edu.tw/distributions/mandrak e/Mandrake/8.2/i586/ [nctu.edu.tw]

ftp://mdk.linux.org.tw/pub/mandrake/8.2/i586/ [linux.org.tw]
Turkey

ftp://ftp.ankara.edu.tr/pub/linux/dagitimlar/Mandr ake/8.2/i586/ [ankara.edu.tr] (Ankara)
United Kingdom

ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/un ix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake/8.2/i586/ [mirror.ac.uk] (Canterbury)
United States

ftp://ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributi ons/mandrake/8.2/i586/ [gatech.edu] (Georgia)

ftp://ftp.cise.ufl.edu/pub/mirrors/mandrake/Mandra ke/8.2/i586/ [ufl.edu] (Florida)

ftp://ftp.cse.buffalo.edu/pub/Linux/Mandrake/mandr ake/8.2/i586/ [buffalo.edu] (NY)

ftp://ftp.nmt.edu/pub/linux/mandrake/8.2/i586/ [nmt.edu] (New Mexico)

ftp://ftp.orst.edu/pub/mandrake/8.2/i586/ [orst.edu] (Oregon)

ftp://ftp.tux.org/pub/distributions/mandrake/8.2/i 586/ [tux.org] (Virginia)

ftp://ftp.umr.edu/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/8.2/ i586/ [umr.edu] (Missouri)

ftp://ftp.uwsg.indiana.edu/linux/mandrake/8.2/i586 / [indiana.edu] (Indiana)

ftp://linux-cs.tccw.wku.edu/pub/linux/distribution s/Mandrake/8.2/i586/ [wku.edu] (WKU-Linux, Western Kentucky University)

ftp://mirror.aca.oakland.edu/linux/mandrake/8.2/i5 86/ [oakland.edu] (Michigan)

ftp://mirror.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/Mandrak e/8.2/i586/ [wisc.edu] (Wisconsin)

ftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/Mandrake/8.2/i586/ [anl.gov] (Illinois)

ftp://mirrors.ptd.net/mandrake/8.2/i586/ [ptd.net] (Pensylvania)

ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandra ke/8.2/i586/ [secsup.org]

ftp://uml-pub.ists.dartmouth.edu/mirrors/ftp.mandr akesoft.com/pub/Mandrake/mandrake/8.2/i586/ [dartmouth.edu] (New Hampshire)

ftp://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mirrors/mandrake/Mandra ke/8.2/i586/ [hawaii.edu] (Hawaii)

http://mandrake.dsi.internet2.edu/Mandrake/8.2/i58 6/ [internet2.edu] (For Internet2 academic institutions only)

Re:mirrors (0, Redundant)

dotgod (567913) | about 12 years ago | (#3938397)

Oops...these are the real ones

Austria

ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/pub/linux/Mandrake-iso/i586/ [tuwien.ac.at] (Vienna)
Czech Republic

ftp://mandrake.redbox.cz/Mandrake-iso/i586/ [redbox.cz]

ftp://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/OS/Linux/Dist/Mandrake/m andrake-iso/i586/ [mff.cuni.cz] (Prague)
Estonia

ftp://ftp.aso.ee/pub/os/Linux/distributions/mandra ke-iso/i586/ [ftp.aso.ee]
France

ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrake-iso/i586/ [rpmfind.net] (Lyon)

ftp://ftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/mandrake-iso/i586/ [ciril.fr] (Nancy)

ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandr ake-iso/i586/ [proxad.net] (Paris)

ftp://linux.ups-tlse.fr/Mandrake-iso/i586/ [ups-tlse.fr] (Toulouse)
Germany

ftp://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/Mandra ke-iso/i586/ [fht-esslingen.de] (Esslingen)

ftp://ftp.join.uni-muenster.de/pub/linux/distribut ions/mandrake-iso/i586/ [uni-muenster.de] (Muenster)

ftp://ftp.uni-bayreuth.de/pub/linux/Mandrake-iso/i 586/ [uni-bayreuth.de] (bayreuth)
Hungary

ftp://ftp.linuxforum.hu/mirror/Mandrake-iso/i586/ [linuxforum.hu]
Netherlands

ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/Mandrake/Man drake-iso/i586/ [nluug.nl]

ftp://ftp.surfnet.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/Mandrake/M andrake-iso/i586/ [surfnet.nl]
Russia

ftp://ftp.chg.ru/pub/Linux/mandrake-iso/i586/ [ftp.chg.ru] (Chernogolovka)
Sweden

ftp://ftp.chello.se/pub/Linux/Mandrake-iso/i586/ [chello.se]

ftp://ftp.du.se/pub/os/mandrake-iso/i586/ [ftp.du.se] (Dalarma)
Taiwan

ftp://linux.cdpa.nsysu.edu.tw/pub/Mandrake/mandrak e-iso/i586/ [nsysu.edu.tw]
United Kingdom

ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/un ix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-iso/i586/ [mirror.ac.uk] (Canterbury)
United States

ftp://ftp.cse.buffalo.edu/pub/Linux/Mandrake/mandr ake-iso/i586/ [buffalo.edu] (NY)

ftp://ftp.orst.edu/pub/mandrake-iso/i586/ [orst.edu] (Oregon)

ftp://ftp.software.umn.edu/pub/linux/mandrake/Mand rake-iso/i586/ [umn.edu] (Minnesota)

ftp://helios.dii.utk.edu/pub/linux/Mandrake/Mandra ke-iso/i586/ [utk.edu] (Tennessee)

ftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/Mandrake-iso/i586/ [anl.gov] (Illinois)

ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandra ke-iso/i586/ [secsup.org]

ftp://raven.cslab.vt.edu/pub/linux/mandrake-iso/i5 86/ [vt.edu] (Virgina)

ftp://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mirrors/mandrake/Mandra ke-iso/i586/ [hawaii.edu] (Hawaii)

Mmm lunch (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3938374)

Should I go with Japanese or Italian today? What do you guys think?

Re:Mmm lunch (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3938468)

Japanese.

what? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3938375)

Mandrake? I thought he was a programmer for E...he runs a distro too..man no wonder he is not working on E

They always have been incompatible (1)

ehudokai (585897) | about 12 years ago | (#3938390)

In versions up to the present for the past few years they have compiled with gcc 2.96.x which if you read the docs on the gnu gcc [gnu.org] web site specifically stated that it was developement and SHOULD NOT BE USED FOR PRODUCTION

Although this is better since 3.1 is not a developement build. It doesn't surprise me in the least.

Mandrake has done a great job of creating a nice looking interface,but I have refused to use them (or redhat) because of their compiler.

Re:They always have been incompatible (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3938485)

I heard that the redhat compiler is much better than the mandrake because they only 2.96 generation

Two options (0)

newton34 (542785) | about 12 years ago | (#3938399)

You still have two options -- get the powers-that-be to compile and release a VM with gcc-3.1 compatibility, or don't use Mandrake 9.0b1. It's the same situation that Windows users find themselves in all the time, but this time it happens in the Linux world and we wonder what the fix is....

why not wait for 3.2? (2, Redundant)

asteinberg (521580) | about 12 years ago | (#3938404)

I could be wrong about this, but I was under the impression that gcc-3.2 will be incompatible with 3.1, and therefore it seems strange for me for Mandrake to make the switch so quickly, when there are still some issues with 3.1 and it's more or less a dead-end in terms of compatibility. Hopefully they'll use 3.2 (scheduled for release within the next week according to the site [gnu.org] ) on the final version.

Oh, here's the quote from GCC's page [gnu.org] about 3.2 incompatibility:

GCC 3.1 [sic, should be 3.2] has a number of C++ ABI fixes in it which make its C++ compiler binary incompatible with the C++ compilers found in earlier GCC releases, including GCC 3.1 and GCC 3.1.1
.

Attention (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3938409)

This is the last release before the creditors rip Mandrake apart, so get it while you can! Michelin tires are da bomb tho, so I don't hate French people.

Re:Attention (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3938491)

I bet you had French toast for breakfast & French fries for lunch.

Another GCC nightmare ahead (2, Interesting)

jmv (93421) | about 12 years ago | (#3938411)

I've seen the beta ships with gcc 3.1.1. If this holds for the release, that means there's going to be yet another C++ ABI incompatibility when gcc 3.2 [gnu.org] comes out. I just hope RedHat 8.0 and Mandrake 9.0 both ship with the same compiler.

mandrake and gentoo (1)

xcable_hhh (442882) | about 12 years ago | (#3938432)

I have used Mandrake as my server OS, desktop, and laptop OS for years now (since 6.x if i rememeber correctly). I really like the some features that Mandrake has (the Control Center, drake, etc..). But I have started using Gentoo, and now i'm in love again. The last Mandrake install 8.2 was just.....to easy, everything worked off the bat. With Gentoo you have to work a lot at the beginning and have a lot more control. The next gentoo install CD will use GCC 3.1. Portage KICKS ASS. Every distro should use something simular. It's some much better than RPM hell (reminds me of dll hell).

heath

# emerge rsync
# emerge exit
# exit

If you are interested in purchasing this CD-r set: (5, Informative)

pheph (234655) | about 12 years ago | (#3938464)

A company I do work for is selling (3) CD-r sets of this distribution for $2.49. $0.50 is donated to misc. Open Source and $0.50 is donated directly to Mandrake for their hardwork in creating this distribution.

If you are interested, please see Open Soars Mandrake Linux 9.0 Beta 1 Product Page [opensoars.com] .

I'm sure its a step forward, but... (0)

bafreer (592306) | about 12 years ago | (#3938481)

right now all of my hardware works properly under Mandrake 8.2 . My Geforce4 works fine with the Nvidia drivers, and I have installed KDE 3 and Gnome 2 independantly. Maybe if make another system I'll put on 9.0, but right now I'm trying to thin-down the bloatedness, not increase it. Great job Mandrake, I like your distro, I just need a faster system. Keep up the good work!

Trollling in the name of by poopbot (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3938505)

Happy Troll Tuesday!

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Are the same that bought XP
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95 is justified for running the games that you didn't buy
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Are the same that bought XP
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Linux Useability (2, Insightful)

Parsa (525963) | about 12 years ago | (#3938511)

We always ask questions and ponder why Linux isn't more prevalent on the desktop. I think this post and thread is a perfect example of why it isn't.

Look at all the fuss over gcc 3.1 not being compatible with Java, other software packages and even 3.2 that is suppose to be out soon. The average user doesn't want to have to deal with that.

I myself have used Mandrake for about 3 years now and love it, and will buy the retail package when it comes out in stores. But I don't expect my 70 something year old grandfather to deal with gcc version compatibility when all he wants to do is email and look up stuff he watched on Discovery or The History Channel.

RedHat Limbo (1, Flamebait)

DeadBugs (546475) | about 12 years ago | (#3938518)

The new Redhat Beta "Limbo" [linuxtoday.com] has a similiar feature set that includes gcc 3.1. Seeing that Mandrake is based off of Redhat they are probably just moving right along following Redhat's lead
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