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buster hyman (256882) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946389)

oh yeah, baby!

Re:1st (-1)

Proctal Relapse (467579) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946426)

Most of you will never know me. I am the faceless one, the "everyday Joe" you pass on the sidewalk every morning, the nondescript neighbor that you feel obligated to wave to whenever our cars pass. Five minutes after an encounter with me, I'd be willing to bet good money that you can't remember a single distinguishable feature about me.

That is how I like things; you see, in my line of work, if you're remembered then you are as good as caught. In layman's terms, I am called an "assassin", but really it's too crude of a word for what I do. My work is a subtle form of art, a talent. I take money from people just like you, and I remove the person that is your most bitter enemy, your obstacle, or even your loved ones. You'd be surprised at who's been on my client list......everyone from cherub-faced mothers to the rich and famous has sought out my services for one reason or another. And sometimes, just sometimes if the money is right, I even work for the insane.

The old man definitely fit in that category. From the time he arrived in my office, I pegged him for a loon. He arrived in the company of his grandson, who happened to be a prominent figure in the Yakuza, the Japanese Mafia that was establishing its roots slowly but surely in America. I'd done business with his grandson on many an occasion. The grandfather had seen eighty years unless I missed my mark, and I was rarely wrong. His eyes were piercing in his weathered face, and the snow-white hair of his head was a startling contrast to his tanned skin.

Even though I'm sure he'd lived in America for over thirty years, he still wore the traditional kimono of his native culture. He spoke no words of greeting, merely marched up to my desk and placed a manila folder before me. His grandson helped him take a seat while I opened up the file. The thing was crammed with photos: Polaroids, professional quality, and even printed photos from some computer webcam. They were all shots of one woman, obviously my client. I looked up to find the old one watching me intently. "Kitsune," he remarked, his voice still thick with an accent.

"Kitsune? That her name?" I asked.

"No, kitsune," the old man repeated, his burning gaze falling down to the pictures. "Japanese demon. Fox fire." His grandson placed a hand on his shoulder, speaking a few words in Japanese to comfort him, then looked at me. "What Grandfather means is that he believes this woman is one of the kitsune. You Americans call them werefoxes, I believe." I stared at them both, the old man in his ancient garb, the younger man in the Armani three-piece suit.......both faces mirrored the same deadly calm and serious. I raised my eyebrows, not really sure if this was some kind of stupid joke. "Werefoxes? You mean, howl-at-the-moon, turn-furry-once-a-month type?"

"The kitsune has been around in Japan since the ancient times," the young man replied stiffly. I could see how hard he was trying to contain his rage at my glib remarks. "My family was given the sacred honor of ridding the land of the demons over three hundred years ago, and it has been passed down from father to son since that time. My grandfather is the last of our family to receive the honor, but he is too old now to hunt the kitsune. That is why he seeks your help."

I thought about making another smart remark, but I decided against it. The last thing I needed was a Yakuza boss pissed off at me, and I needed the business they provided for me. The old man took my silence as acceptance of the job, and barked at his younger companion in fluent Japanese. The grandson stood, and placed two objects on the desk before me. One of them was an ancient kitana, the polished wooden hilt and sheath carefully wrapped in a black satin shroud. I noticed several Japanese characters burned into the sword's handle; the family name, more than likely. The second object was a black professional briefcase.

I opened it and tried not to gape. There had to be close to ten million dollars, from a quick glance, nearly three times the amount I was normally paid for a job. The old man caught my gaze again, and his face was as unreadable as some ancient statue. "Use the sword to kill the beast," he said. "Only the purest silver blade can stop her fire." He stood, and motioned to his grandson. They both bowed slightly at the waist to me, and I found myself automatically returning the politeness. They headed for the door without another word; I was too speechless to stop them from leaving. The grandson was the last to leave, pausing just a moment to give me one final warning.

"Don't let the kitsune bewitch you," he said sternly. "She will use her mind and body to try and stop you. You mustn't let her draw you in." Then they were gone, leaving my office as abruptly as they had arrived.

I stayed awake most of the night, looking at the sword and the money again and again. I didn't really buy their story; I figured that the old man must have had some run-in with her and just needed her offed. The sword deal, well, that wasn't all that unusual. Some of my clients paid me a lot more just to make sure their target was killed in a certain way or with a certain thing.....call it a "calling card" of sorts. But their devotion to the legend piqued my curiosity, and so the next day I turned to the library to find out about this "kitsune".

It turned out to be very old indeed. The people of ancient Japan believed that a person could be possessed with the spirit of a fox. The "fox demon" would then encourage the person to steal things, to play tricks on others, to do things not normally associated with human behavior. Over time, the fox would claim their body, and they would forever more be able to switch between human and fox form at will. I pulled the file from my briefcase, staring down at the photos of the woman that was accused of bearing this terrible demon. She was a stunning woman, and I didn't have to be Asian to see that she was definitely different from most Japanese women.

For starters, she was tall, nearly six feet in height. Her hair was long and black, and she wore it free of adornments or style. In several of the full length pictures, I could see that it almost reached the back of her knees, tumbling down her back like a satin waterfall. Her skin was another oddity; instead of the normal caramel color which he found so appealing on most Asian girls, she bore the flawless milky skin of a Southern belle. There was one photo that was a shot of her face, caught in a moment of laughter. Her lips were full and painted a light pink, and her smile was incredible. Her eyes, so light brown they were almost golden, sparkled with her humor. It was a waste to kill such a beautiful girl, but then again, ten million dollars gave me the motivation I needed to get over my lust. I shut the file, and headed home to begin tracing her.

Nasumi Michinoka. She wasn't hard to find. Most beautiful women aren't, for people notice them everywhere that they go. With some well-palmed hundreds and the aid of phone books and the like, I soon had her address. She lived in a rural area of town, one of those pretty colonial-style homes that bordered on three acres of woodland. I camped just beyond her place, keeping a watch on her home through my surveillance gear. I wanted to get a layout of the house and its surroundings, so I could best plan my mode of attack. It didn't take long for Nasumi to return home; around six in the evening I watched her little red sports Miata pull into the driveway.

I didn't get a good glimpse of her when she made her way into the house, but I eventually was rewarded with a clear shot of her when I trained the high-powered binoculars on her bedroom window. The photos I'd studied weren't doing her justice, not compared to seeing her in the flesh. The contrast of her black tendrils of hair against that pale, smooth skin was more intoxicating than the sweetest wine. When you combined the slant of her luminous eyes and pretty mouth to the mix, it was a deadly combination. She left her blinds wide open while she changed into more comfortable clothes, and I watched as she began to strip. I couldn't look away now, not even if I had to.

Her nimble fingers undid the buttons on her blouse, shrugging the white silky material off of her shoulders and tossing it onto the floor. I feasted on the flatness of her pale stomach, and the way her tiny nipples strained against the lace of her bra as she reached around to undo the clasp behind her. The scrap of lacy fabric fell free, and her beautiful breasts sprang into view. The globes of her chest were small and high on her ribcage, the nipples a light pink and almost perfectly centered. Their erect nubs stood out like tiny pebbles, and there was a tiny freckle just beyond the pink ring of her left breast. I wondered if I could fit that entire mound in my mouth, including that little brown freckle.

Before her hands even made their way down to the button of her jeans, I was already growing hard in the confines of my own pants. The lower half she exposed more slowly, and she turned to the window, looking out over her land as she pulled the little metal zipper down. The jeans were tight, and she pulled them down over the slight swell of her hips, leaving only her pink-and-white striped cotton briefs covering her intimate areas. Nasumi seemed to take forever tugging the denim down over those long, long legs. Her thighs and calves were firm with muscle, and I wondered how tightly she would grip a man with those gorgeous limbs when she was hot and ready to be fucked.

I imagined it were me those powerful legs gripped tightly, pulling my cock deeper in her eager sex, a blush spreading across that pretty face as I made her moan. I snapped out of my fantasy, to find she'd already stepped out of her pants and was hooking her thumbs in the waistband of her panties. My free hand went down and adjusted the erection straining my fly, unconsciously stroking myself through the cloth as Nasumi peeled down the underwear. I could just make out the shape of the lips of her pussy, crowned with a nest of glossy black curls that were neatly groomed in a perfect little triangle.

It had been a long time since I saw a woman with pubic hair, and I was surprised at how much it excited me more than a shaved pussy did. I could swear she looked at me then, straight out the window at the tree where I was watching her from. Her mouth curved up in a private smile, then she reached up and snapped the blinds closed. I shimmied out of the tree as best I could despite the massive hard-on I sported, then made my way back to the makeshift camp I'd created. It was a long time before my desires subsided enough for me to sleep.

That night, I dreamed of Nasumi. In my thoughts, she came to me, arriving at the mouth of my tent without warning and crawling inside. She was naked and smiling when she straddled me, and I was helpless to do anything more than twist my fists in the sleeping bag that I lay on. In the night, her skin seemed to reflect the moonlight like water, glowing the same shimmering white as a pearl. Her pale hands came down, pulled me up roughly to kiss her hungry mouth. Her lips were burning hot and divine, sucking on my tongue and mouth like no other lover ever had.

She only allowed me to feast on her mouth for so long before she pulled back, cupping her left breast in her palm and offering it to me. I sucked most of the tiny breast in my mouth, kneading and licking and sucking on the soft flesh. It glistened with my saliva when I pulled back, and I flicked my tongue over the erect bud until she was moaning softly. Nasumi tugged my hair, urging me over to indulge on her right breast, and as I treated it the same she reached between her thighs and yanked at my belt, freeing the catch on the buckle and fumbling with my zipper. Her hands plunged in the gaping hole, pulling out my fully erect cock, and my hips bucked up when I felt her smooth fist slide down over the engorged head and shaft.

"How can you kill me," she panted, and her accent was an aphrodisiac to my already-inflamed senses, "when you know this is what you want? I know you want to fuck me, I can see it in your eyes." Nasumi pushed me onto my back and smiled down at me, then got to a squat and changed positions so I was staring up at her firm ass and the dark pink slit of her sex. Her thighs and sex were smeared with her own juices, and I felt her breath tickle the knobby head of my dick when she spoke. "Lick me, suck me," she begged like a whore.

"Taste how much I want to fuck you, make me come." I felt her hand close over the base of my shaft, right where my balls joined, and then I felt her soft tongue, lapping at the salty clear fluid that was already gathered on the swollen tip of my cock. She cleaned it, her tongue dipping playfully in the small slit where the lubrication was gathered, before her wet mouth closed down. I'd never felt such heat, not the way it was when her lips slid down over the rim of the head and down to where her fingers lay. It was like the first time I'd ever had sex with a girl, as good as the tight, hot pussy of a high-school slut.

I was paralyzed for a moment with the sheer pleasure, as she made her way up again only to remover her hand and deep-throat me to my balls. I grabbed her hips and pulled them down, my tongue lapping at the dampened crease in her thighs, working in towards that overflowing flower in the center. When my lips first traced that eager, quivering slit, Nasumi let out a low moan in her throat. I wanted to take my time, but she refused me, working my dick faster and grinding back on my face. She practically drowned me, her hot liquids coating my chin and cheeks as I tongue-fucked her. Her pussy was tight, as I'd expected, and I almost exploded in her mouth when I felt her squeeze her inner muscles around my tongue, milking it like a little cock.

She was panting low in her throat, little moans that increased as she worked her throat and mouth over my hard member, and she pulled back to jack me off with her hand for a moment while she sucked one of my balls into her mouth, rolling it around before she claimed the second one. I wasn't going to last much longer, and I ran my tongue off of her sex and up to her little puckered anus, tonguing the tight brown hole with little flicks of my tongue. I used my right hand on her pussy at the same time, sliding my index and middle finger inside her, pistoning them back and forth in the tight sheath.

Nasumi pulled free of my cock with a cry, and she reached back and parted the cheeks of her bottom with her hands, nails digging into the milky flesh. She squealed something in Japanese, and then she came, bucking against me while her body exploded into a torrent of uncontrollable contractions. She rode her orgasm to the fullest, and then when she was done she looked back at me and smiled. "I'm waiting," she purred. "I know you'll make the right choice." Then her hot lips closed around me again, and I was pumping her face eagerly, feeling the churning start and the pleasure shocks overtaking me. I shot load after load into her moist mouth, the strongest orgasm I'd ever had, shouting out with my triumph. The sweet, white-hot ecstasy was enough to wake me from my sleep, and I awoke to find myself naked and alone in my tent, and my stomach and thighs coated in my own milk-white release. My whole body still quivering, I cleaned myself as best I could.

The next day, all I could think about was Nasumi and the dream. The experience had left me drained and vulnerable; never before had I ever let lust get in the way of business. I knew I had to either kill her tonight or she'd haunt my mind each and every night until I did. I watched her home all day, saw her leave for work and return eight hours later. Withdrawing the silver sword from my tent, I gave her an hour's time to get settled in for the night before I headed over to finish the job.

I had my lockpicks ready before I even got to the door, but was surprised to find the door was unlocked already. As silently as I could, I made my way inside and up the stairs towards the location of her bedroom. It wasn't hard to approach unnoticed, for every room but hers was bathed in darkness. I reached the door to her inner chambers, took my breath, and opened the door. Nasumi was there, and to my surprise she didn't scream or run. In fact, she looked to have been waiting on me. The room was lit only by candles, which covered the dresser, nighttable, and bookshelf. She was as naked as she had been in my dream, lying across the white satin sheets of her bed, staring up at me with her liquid eyes.

"So you're finally here," she murmured, and smiled when I drew the sword from its wooden casing, the blade shining cold in the candlelight. My hands were trembling, the sword tip wavering to and fro.

"The old man's sword, I presume?" She asked, and I nodded slightly. "Silver, then. Silver to pierce the breast of a kitsune." She laughed sharply, and got to her hands and knees, crawling towards me over the covers. "Tell me, will you be able to shove that blade into my heart, split me in two? All for ten million and the will of an old fool?" She cupped her perfect breasts in her hands, her fingers curling together in the center, right where I could push the blade into her like a knife through butter.

"A...Are you really a werefox?" I rasped, as she stood and started walking towards me. The closer she got, the more my will to kill her washed away. Nasumi reached out and touched the tip of the glimmering silver blade, running her delicate fingers over the cold metal.

She smiled again, this time sarcastically. "I am kitsune," she corrected. "Calling me werefox is like calling you a thug, it is a crude name. A kitsune does not need the moon to change, nor are they some great, slobbering, murderous beast. A kitsune is a beautiful strong fox, wise and cunning. I was possessed with my fox when I was twenty years old. I have now been alive for five hundred years, and will live for eternity as a youth of twenty. I do not harm people if I do not have to. I take things from those who are rich and unworthy, like the old man who hired you."

She smiled, pushing the blade aside and approaching me. "I keep those things for myself or give them to the ones in need, if the mood strikes me. I am not evil. But the so-called 'honorable' men like the one that you work for, they killed my people. Once the kitsune were plentiful, now I am the last. I left Japan and came to America, because there are not many here who would threaten me. Once the old man is dead, the kitsune will flourish." She reached my side, and touched my trembling chest, running her arms up to circle around my shoulders. "And I suppose I should thank the old fool, he has sent me the perfect mate."


"If I make you a kitsune, we would repopulate the world with our kind. You are the man I need.....you run in the night, you know how to blend in so to be unnoticed. You are strong, and you are not afraid to kill when you need to. A perfect mate, a perfect father for our children." Nasumi's golden eyes glittered with hope. "So you must choose. Kill me, and take the ten million the man has offered you. Or come with me, and I'll make sure you never want for anything again, and we shall be together in eternity." A long silence filled the room around us, but there really was no choice. I dropped the sword and gathered her in my arms, taking her with me to the floor in one swift motion. My dream was nothing compared to reality, as she tore at my clothing, freeing me from the confines of human restrictions. She rolled, pinning me beneath her, and I dug my fingers into her hips roughly as I slid within her depths, hard and ready. We fucked fast and furious, our groans mingling in the room.

She was so warm, burning me alive, bouncing on my cock like she was riding a horse. I watched her breasts jiggle up and down with every thrust, saw the muscles in her tight thighs ripple, heard the slap of her flesh coming down on my own. I brought one hand around, digging into the curls above her sex, finding the marble of her clit and rubbing it in rapid circles. Nasumi reached back and gripped my balls in her hand, making sure I was going to reach the end as quickly as she was. When she came, she jammed herself down on my hard manhood as hard as she could, and I felt every muscle spasm drawing me deeper and fuller into her tight wet sex.

Her pussy milking me was too much, and I held her in place, my hips lifting her off the floor as I emptied myself in her in four long gushes, filling her to the point where her sex dripped with my seed. We collapsed to the floor together, but only long enough to recover. For the rest of the night, I took her again and again, in every way I could think of and a few more that I'd never seen but she wanted. When dawn arose, it found us unconscious in each other's arms, the sword forgotten on the bedroom floor.

Like I said before, most of you will never know me. I run with a different pack now. After an incredible night of lovemaking, Nasumi shared with me a sip of her blood, from a pricked finger. It was enough to make me kitsune as well, to make me leave my human heritage behind. Tomorrow night, we go to visit the old man who hired me to kill her. I'm planning on leaving the silver sword of his family lineage jammed into his chest so hard, they may not be able to remove it. That will be the end of the hunts, the deaths.....and a beginning for us, for the children I may have already planted in Nasumi's fertile womb.

I don't regret my decision, leaving mankind behind. I used to burn with the fires of human ambition and greed, willing to do almost anything for the money. Now I burn with a new fire, fox fire. And if you're not careful, it just may consume you as well.

hmmm... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3946392)

frost pist?

Internet traffic doubles every 100 days.? (1)

unformed (225214) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946409)

Damn, humanity wil \. the Internet.

Re:Internet traffic doubles every 100 days.? (-1)

Marque_Off (589454) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946562)

As people of the article were true, we should experiencing a GOOD network itself is that wouldn't be spending habits while also misleading others that could support HALF of the increase would have slowed over time, otherwise we can only catching up with this kind of the economy in this article, as they thought, then perhaps they'll realize that the increase the economy in the demand for everything evil - and well-educated people were jumping onto that the bubble that says net growth can only catching up with even basic math should know that they die.

Why did double every Y days" stories. Everybody who is just being deleted :-) my pr0n collection doubles every 100 days' But now it really believe in the answer lies in the next boom, more people were true, we would all be annoying X10 pop unders double every hundred days. Then everyone says net growth can only catching up with the upkeep just as well as much. As people were jumping onto that the BSA, RIAA, and billions of the CAUSE of their bloody e-mails.

Re:Internet traffic doubles every 100 days.? (1, Troll)

uncoveror (570620) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946606)

Now that the bubble has burst, WorldCom(edY) plans to pay its remaining employes with funny money, [uncoveror.com] and open company stores where they can use it. It was all Scott Sullivan's idea.

nope... (2, Interesting)

TibbonZero (571809) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946643)

Nope, it doesn't double every 100 days, but the number of my posts to /. do.

Now if only the size of my Beowulf cluster would double every 100 days...
Hey, wait a sec... if the internet WERE doubling every 100 days, then wouldn't that mean that they would have to make double the servers every 100 days?....

Just in case: here it is. (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3946410)

The power of WorldCom's puff

Jul 18th 2002
From The Economist print edition

Exaggerated figures for Internet traffic inflated the telecoms bubble

IT WAS an essential ingredient of dotcom business plans and conference slide-shows: Internet traffic, went the industry's favourite statistic, doubles every 100 days. The claim assumed unimpeachable status when it appeared in a report published by America's Department of Commerce in April 1998. Unfortunately for the telecoms firms that rushed to build networks to carry the reported surge in traffic, it wasn't true.

So where did the claim come from? According to Andrew Odlyzko, a former researcher at AT&T who is now at the University of Minnesota, the short answer is WorldCom. Every time that Mr Odlyzko tried to trace the claim to its source, he says, he was always "pointed at folks from WorldCom", typically Bernie Ebbers, its recently departed chief executive, or John Sidgmore, his replacement. The claim in the Department of Commerce's report, for example, is attributed to UUNET, WorldCom's Internet subsidiary. As the world's largest carrier of Internet traffic, UUNET was assumed to know the numbers.

To be fair, says Mr Odlyzko, Internet traffic did grow this quickly in 1995 and 1996, when the Internet first went mainstream. But since then, he estimates, annual growth has settled down at around 70-150%, a far cry from the 700-1,500% trumpeted by WorldCom. The myth of 100-day doubling, however, refused to die. In a press release from 1997 WorldCom referred to traffic "almost doubling every quarter". At a conference in 1998, Mr Sidgmore's presentation included graphs that referred to 1,000% annual growth. In fact, he was referring to the growth of network capacity, not network traffic. But it was widely assumed that traffic was growing just as fast. WorldCom executives made similar claims in interviews published in 2000.

Rival telecoms companies believed the myth and cited UUNET's figures, even if their own traffic figures disagreed. That just meant their salesmen were not selling capacity fast enough. Mr Odlyzko recalls meetings at AT&T where his claims that growth was actually far slower were dismissed. Instead, he was told, "we just have to try harder to match those growth rates and catch up with WorldCom." Companies such as Global Crossing and Qwest soon resorted to "hollow swaps" and other dubious tricks to boost sales and traffic figures. Meanwhile, shares in Internet companies soared, and the telecoms industry engaged in an orgy of network construction in preparation for a deluge that never came. WorldCom executives, says Mr Odlyzko, are thus "more responsible for inflating the Internet bubble than anyone."

Hmm.. (0, Offtopic)

iONiUM (530420) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946414)

WorldCom's role in starting the myth

Maybe spam companies will finally realize that spamming isn't as effective as they thought. If there's not as many new users as they thought, then perhaps they'll realize most of their bloody e-mails are just being deleted :-)

Re:Hmm.. (2, Insightful)

saider (177166) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946478)

How much capacity does spam take up? The article mentions 70-150% growth. I know my spam increase is growing about 70-150% a year.

How much of that is due to companies adopting spam as an advertising medium?

Re:Hmm.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3946517)

In byte volume, spam is way, way less than 1% of the traffic.

Re:Hmm.. (1)

The Turd Report (527733) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946573)

Very little. Considering that a fraction of 1% of WorldCom's customers are spammers, they don't contribute that much to the traffic. Most traffic from WorldCom, or any large NSP, is legit traffic.

Re:Hmm.. (1)

The Turd Report (527733) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946594)

Seeing how spam is maybe 1% of all traffic coming out of most NSPs, most backbones wouldn't even notice a drop in traffic, if all spammers just up and died.

I'm sure it did.. a long time ago.. (1)

Callamon (575967) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946418)

As people were jumping onto that new-fangled internet thing, I'm sure the bandwidth usage did double every 100 days (maybe less).. But that wouldn't be a fixed value, the increase would have slowed over time, as the market became saturated.

i believe it... (2, Funny)

edrugtrader (442064) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946419)

my pr0n collection doubles every 100 days.

Re:i believe it... (0, Troll)

Jonny Ringo (444580) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946561)

That's funny, my penis doubles every 100 days as well thanks to this lobby:

http://www.theonion.com/onion3825/anti-spam_legi sl ation.html


Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3946648)

What about the myths (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3946421)

about my penis growth?!?!

To put things in perspective... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3946427)

Here are some other such 'myths' that where generated for the benefit of a certain group:

-You need 8 hours sleep per night (Sleeping aids/pills companies)
-You should go to McDonald's every day (Have you had your break today?)
-Carrots make your eyesight better (Myth used by the Allies in WWII to hide the fact that they had made advances regarding the lighting colour of intrumentation in airplane cockpits resulting in better weapons accuracy)
-Pepsi is better than Coca Cola :P

75% of coke drinkers prefer taste of PEPSI! Fact! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3946536)

75% of coke drinkers prefer taste of PEPSI! Its a Fact!

Theis test has been performed on live tv (hbo), in documentaries, books (several), reports, public events, etc.

The numbers always add up..

75% of coke drinkers prefer taste of PEPSI!

I have a theory... a large percentage of stupid people with no real preference, or abilities, merely claim to like coke even though they would prefer pepsi if the names were hidden.

But pepsi is superior... it is highly filterred corn syrup (not cloudy like cheap coke) and you can read a newspaper through a full pepsi bottle.

Pepsi also costs more to make... it has more sugar.

pepsi wins taste tests because of itdiotic morons like the above "Anonymous Coward"

My favorite things by poopbot (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3946430)

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I wish (1, Offtopic)

Uttles (324447) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946434)

If that were true, maybe EDUSlash.com [eduslash.com]'s membership would double every day

maybe if your site didn't suck so bad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3946475)

the member numbers would increase everyday......

Re:maybe if your site didn't suck so bad (1)

Uttles (324447) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946482)

gee, did you think of that all by yourself?

Re:maybe if your site didn't suck so bad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3946637)

No, your mom helped out a bit. It was hard to understand her, with my dick in her mouth and all that, but we managed. BTW, you mother told me to tell you to stop jerking off to anime so much, it is bad for your eyes.

And we all see the effect... (1)

Noofus (114264) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946442)

Worldcom creates the bubble that says net growth doubles every hundred days. Then everyone says "oh crap, we better double our bandwidth every hunder days". All those other companies dont use as much, and *poof* they die.

Why did it take so long for this to catch up with worldcom? Oh, maybe its their shady accounting...

Not to troll, but.. (3, Interesting)

f00zbll (526151) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946443)

I remember president Ronald Reagan pulling the same kind of stuff when he was in office. Some of the statistics Reagan quoted in his public speeches often were wrong or had no data supporting the claim. Why is it that people buy into BS when it comes out of the president or some CEO?

Are people being stupid, or simply letting themselves get caught up in the excitement?

Re:Not to troll, but.. (4, Insightful)

Noofus (114264) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946497)

Its simply because people trust statistics from any sort of authority figure.

If the PRESIDENT says something, people assume he MUST be right.

If says "our industry is growing FAST FAST FAST", people will believe it. This appears to be how bubbles form (Enron, Worlcom, etc). People will believe statistics if they seem somewhat reasonable and come from what appears to be a reputable source.

Besides, this doubling every 100 days figure seemed like a great concept to latch onto (gee, humanity is becoming more connected...thats great!)

So I guess the answer IMO, is that people ARE just getting caught up in excitement.

Re:Not to troll, but.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3946542)

If the PRESIDENT says something, people assume he MUST be right.

You mean the way Shrub said the economy was doing great and there was nothing to worry about? Yeah, a lot of people listened to that one. It always seemed to me that no one believed the president on anything.

Re:Not to troll, but.. (1)

Noofus (114264) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946618)

I dont believe of a word of what the "Shrub" says.

Im not sure many do these days. The parent to my post was reffering to Regan, who many people did trust (I have no idea why, but I digress).

In Regan's case it was a similar issue. People trusted him to tell them things, and when he said bogus stuff, nobody knew any better and simply believed him.

Re:Not to troll, but.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3946520)

You have to go back to Ronald Reagan to find an account of that? What planet are you from?

Re:Not to troll, but.. (5, Insightful)

medcalf (68293) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946528)

This kind of thing happens all the time. Sometimes it's an honest mis-statement or a result of unstated assumptions. Sometimes it's a blatant lie. The perception of the false comment's status generally depends on your political views. (For example, a Republican would be suspicious of Clintonian whoppers, while a Democrat would be forgiving; and the opposite dynamic would hold with Republican political statements.)

That said, the reason that most people swallow them whole is because people believe what they hear from figures deemed "in authority", such as politicians, CEOs, doctors, and the mainstream media. All, interestingly enough, of these sources have egos the size of Texas and consciences the size of Guam. Why do people trust authority figures, given that there is every rational and historical reason to distrust them instead? Probably has an evolutionary basis (in that cohesive groups had better odds of survival, and adherence to authority in a crisis increased the cohesiveness of the group). In fact, the military deliberately teaches officers and non-coms the tone and style of speach needed to get instant obedience.

Re:Not to troll, but.. (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3946598)

"This kind of thing happens all the time. Sometimes it's an honest mis-statement or a result of unstated assumptions. Sometimes it's a blatant lie. The perception of the false comment's status generally depends on your political views. (For example, a Republican would be suspicious of Clintonian whoppers, while a Democrat would be forgiving; and the opposite dynamic would hold with Republican political statements.)"

Correct. Also consider that all Presidents are extremely busy. Most of their facts come from associates, and mistakes get made. Of course perceptions are 99 percent of this anyway. Reagan did no more or less of this than any other recent President. The fact that he was an excellent communicator and really got his points across convincingly is what really irkes the left-wingers.

On the other hand, we do have a recent example of an out-and-out blatant lie, from a certain Democratic President. Does "I did not had sexual relations with that woman" ring any bells?


Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3946629)

Re:Not to troll, but.. (2)

foobar104 (206452) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946669)

All, interestingly enough, of these sources have egos the size of Texas and consciences the size of Guam.

Bad example. While Guam might be small compared to Texas, it's still pretty darned big in the absolute sense. I.e., it's a lot bigger than I am. For future reference, I would choose something like ``consciences the size of a flea.''

On a more serious note, might I ask that you consider being a little bit more careful with your words in the future. Saying this like, ``All of these sources [politicians, CEOs, doctors...] have egos the size of Texas,'' is an overgeneralization, and a rude one. My girlfriend is a doctor, as are most of our friends. While there are egoists out there, I'd have to say that all but one or two of the doctors I know are the most humble people you could hope to meet. We've talked about it before, over dinners and such: they all agree that being a doctor is an overwhelming responsibility. If you let it go to your head, you might get arrogant, but the fact is that simple fear keeps you from thinking too highly of yourself.

I'd just ask that you think twice before generalizing in the future.

Re:Not to troll, but.. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3946565)

It's not just a case of people being stupid because they believe the President or a CEO, it's a case of people (Americans, anyway) pretty much believing anything that's delivered with authority. All you have to do is form a committee or an agency, and then have them publish/say whatever they want because the average person is dumb, gullible and trusting. You achieve the same result if you have an important sounding title ("V.P. of blah, blah, blah.." or "Director..."), or just make lots of outright suggestions that don't necessarily state a point, but certainly lead the listener/viewer to a specific conclusion, just like the ads for Windows XP. Those ads make a non-technical person think their life will be completely different because of XP; they'll be happy, smiling, etc., and everything will be great. This whole country is about marketing and sales, every single thing we do. Why's it any different when it comes from the President?

Re:Not to troll, but.. (3, Interesting)

Zoop (59907) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946585)

Nobody without an axe to grind ever checks sources, and additionally, people are statistically innumerate.

For example, when you hear some group come out and say "1 in 3 women are sexually assaulted every year they're at college," you have to get into Clintonesque parsings of the meaning of "sexual assault", because it means that if assaults are truly random, almost all women will have been victimized by the time they get out of school. Advocates will say "yes, that's true" and invent a reason they think 90% of women don't report an assault.

It usually turns out that assault means "felt uncomfortable and/or threatened in an ecounter with the opposite sex." How many of us haven't felt uncomfortable? I'm surprised the statistic is a mere 1/3.

Then there are ones that advocates make up out of whole cloth or unrepresentative samples, like 10% of us are homosexuals (based on a self-reporting study of inmates defining homosexual as having had a sexual situation or thought dealing with the same sex--IN PRISON) or that there are a million homeless.

In each case, people fail to translate a statistic to its logical outcome or don't apply Occam's Razor to decide that it's more likely someone is inflating a statistic for personal gain (get funding for your issue/company) than it is that life is severely different than we think and we've been indulging in false consciousness all these years.

Same reason... (2, Insightful)

Steve Franklin (142698) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946603)

Same reason people believed eating carbohydrates would help them lose weight. They wanted to believe. They wanted to believe eating chocolate eclairs was good for them, and they wanted to believe that "nice man" wouldn't lie to them. And they wanted to believe the future was "so bright" they had "to wear shades." That's the one thing Clinton was able to impart to the country that Shrub doesn't seem to be able to. Optimism.

RIAA, MPAA, and BSA (4, Funny)

smashr (307484) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946445)

I think we can safely file THAT particular statistic away with the MPAA's and RIAA's claim that piracy has cost billions and billions of dollars in lost revenue.

Of course, I could see the BSA, RIAA, and MPAA getting together and claiming that the piracy of billions of dollars of software is the CAUSE of traffic doubling every 100 days!

The Internet (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3946446)

gave proof to the saying: There's no intelligent life out there......

News Flash! (1)

Toasty16 (586358) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946455)

Former AT&T employee blames Worldcom for causing network capacity to grow geometrically; Broadband users blame AT&T for causing it to shrink geometrically (see AT&T's failure to acquire @home, leaving millions without internet access for weeks).

Growth follows the market (5, Insightful)

gentlewizard (300741) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946457)

The problem with this article, as well as the original Worldcom estimate, is that they assume linear growth. In reality, the demand for Internet bandwidth grows and shrinks with the economy in general. We're in a slump right now, so growth has slowed down. In the next boom, more people will want to download rich content such as video, which will in turn increase the demand for bandwidth.

Like the stock market, the bandwidth market has its up times and its down times. When you invest in the stock market, you invest for the long-term trend which historically has been up. In the same way, the need for bandwidth will continue to grow over the long term as we continue to find new and cool things to do with it.

Price of Bandwidth (5, Interesting)

_Sprocket_ (42527) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946558)

We've all heard talk of over-built data networks and "dark fiber". What interests me is how this apparent over-capacity does not seem to match up the price of bandwidth and the apparent bandwidth management of consumer-level heavy users.

Is there a mismatch? Do we actually have a demand that's being held in check by an inappropriate pricing schedule (perhapse even businesses with a lack of vision)? Or does potential capacity fail to overcome the cost of "lighting up" and maintaining these over-built networks?

Re:Price of Bandwidth (2)

TheSync (5291) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946667)

What interests me is how this apparent over-capacity does not seem to match up the price of bandwidth and the apparent bandwidth management of consumer-level heavy users.

Bandwidth is getting cheaper - when you purchase by the 10's of Mbps. I've seen $100/Mbps and below in quantity.

But on a per customer basis, the costs of billing/help desk/etc. for users of under 10 Mbps may actually be more than the bandwidth cost.

And for home users, you have that nasty last mile owned by a local government granted entrenched monopoly, the costs of running new lines, or questionable wireless technologies.

That said, I see plenty of $600/month T1's around (including local loop).

Re:Growth follows the market (2)

Col. Klink (retired) (11632) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946612)

> The problem with this article, as well as the original Worldcom estimate, is that they assume linear growth.

Doubling every 100 days is NOT linear growth, it's exponential. Worldcom was most certainly NOT assuming the growth was linear.

Re:Growth follows the market (2)

medcalf (68293) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946671)

He most likely meant to say that these estimates assumed that the rate of growth was linear, and possibly constant, rather than that the total bandwidth growth was linear.

Re:Growth follows the market (2)

God! Awful (181117) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946613)

The problem with this article, as well as the original Worldcom estimate, is that they assume linear growth. In reality, the demand for Internet bandwidth grows and shrinks with the economy in general.

Excuse me? Doesn't the statement that Internet traffic doubles every hundred days presume exponential growth? Maybe you mean that their assumption was wrong because it assumed constant growth.


Networks that were built to support large #'s? (2, Interesting)

Yo Grark (465041) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946461)

"Unfortunately for the telecoms firms that rushed to build networks to carry the reported surge in traffic, it wasn't true"

In Canada, our telecoms built a network that could support HALF of the current subscribers, and are only catching up lately. In theory, if this statement from the article were true, we should experiencing a GOOD network of Internet access, not the "limiting of bandwidth" we're seeing....


"Canadian Bred with American Buttering"

Re:Networks that were built to support large #'s? (1)

dmoynihan (468668) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946534)

Well, if they're doing it that way, gotta figure, the gear, etc. might be a whole heck of a lot cheaper now than it was in say, '98.

Not sure though, do you mean having to dig up and put in wires across the nation, or just, you know, more gear at the COs? My above statement only applies if it's the latter situation, 'cause my understanding is folks now know how to pack a whole lot more traffic onto existing lines. Should that be the case, way to go Canada tech minister! (Not, I suppose, how one would feel if stuck using dial-up in Edmonton, though.)

Skeptical (4, Funny)

L. VeGas (580015) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946467)

Personally I find it hard to believe that Worldcom would engage in this kind of unethical behaviour. It's the stability of large companies like Worldcom that make me believe our economoy will never go worng.

Re:Skeptical (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3946589)

Lies? What lies? In marketing, there are no lies - it's called OPTIMISM!

oh bully (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3946468)

Blame WorldCom for the failure of the Internet
as a viable business medium? Blame WorldCom
for the fact that BANNER ADS are, were, and
forever shall be a STUPID IDEA? Blame WorldCom
all you want - you morons did this to yourselves.
Now wallow in it.

NYT started these lies in 1992... not in 1995!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3946471)

The NYT started these lies in 1992... not in 1995!!!

I cannot believe how shorsighted everyone is, and how eager they like to rewrite history.

NYT kept it up and kept it up, even in front page stories.... (they once admitted that they were assigning 10 machines to each non-dormant IP address) but still....

I lost all respect for ANYONE spouting off this crap and always chickle at the deaths of each and every dot Com company that goes belly up.

They all believed the hype, or promoted it.

Quite a good read..... (1)

friedmud (512466) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946473)

It seems as if Worldcom created the shit they are now rolling in, and they took others down with them.

I have been wondering lately why all these cablemodem providers have gone out of business - because everyone I know is willing to get hooked up - and indeed I know at least 10 families that have done so in the past 2 months. But now it looks like the answer lies in the fact that they overbuilt their networks too quickly - and most probably the cost of the upkeep just on the network itself is taking these companies out.

Worldcom deserves to die a slow horrible death. They stand for everything evil - they misinformed people of their own budgets and spending habits while also misleading others that they should be spending just as much.


Unbelievable (2, Interesting)

targo (409974) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946476)

I find it really strange how otherwise serious and well-educated people very often go along with these "X doubles every Y days" stories. Everybody who is familiar with even basic math should know that this kind of growth can only last for for a very short time, otherwise we would all be impersonating Elvis [peterborough.on.ca] by now.
Now Worldcom probably tweaked the facts but if some people really believe in this kind of exponential growth then I hardly have any compassion for them, and blaming Worldcom or someone else for your own stupidity is just silly.

Re:Unbelievable (really?) (3, Insightful)

Smallpond (221300) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946609)

Yeah. What was that Moore guy thinking in 1965
when he forecasted chip density doubling every
18 months. That obviously couldn't last more
than a couple of years, could it?

Some predictions seem to work better than others.

Re:Unbelievable (2)

Mr. Sketch (111112) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946621)

I agree. Who ever believed that processing power doubles every 6,480 days really needs to have their head examined. After all, there's NO WAY we could ever keep up with that kind of growth, it just isn't possible.

Exponential grow rate (1)

uxu.ch (447105) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946477)

I think, that internet traffic is still growing exponentially, maybe not doubling every 100 days, but if Moore's law would be applicable to the internet we have still a 100fold traffic in 10 years.


It makes you wonder.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3946481)

Why we are all still paying so much for broadband style end user bandwidth......????

With so much spare capacity available as of right now one would think that someone would realise the value of offering it cheaply to the masses.

Why do I need a seperate box for cable tv and internet, why do I need a radio and a news paper?

Why can't it all come through the one pipe in a chep and interactive form?

Re:It makes you wonder.... (1)

tiedyejeremy (559815) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946578)

what is chep?
Acronym -> Definition
-> Commonwealth Handling Equipment Pooling (CHEP Inc.)
-> Computers in High Energy Physics (Conference)

No, really - I do not want everything in one pipe. Then you end up like dallas, tx stuck with Belo Corp!

Re:It makes you wonder.... (1)

CableModemSniper (556285) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946597)

Competition is good. If everything came down the same pipe from the same people they'd have a huge amount of control over what media you received. Also I'm sure the marketing people would go into paroxisyms just thinking about the ease of getting info on you if all conections to the outside world, short of actually going out into it were controlled by them. They could discover ebvery single one of your interests, who you called, what you watch what sites you visit, what news you pay attention to etc.

Exponential growth (5, Insightful)

delfstrom (205488) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946488)

"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function."
-- Bartlett, as quoted in my 1st year physics textbook

If we're so smart... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3946632)

how come they're the rich ones?

This raises the other question . . . (5, Insightful)

Badgerman (19207) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946489)

How many other "marketing-oriented" "facts" are being touted today as justification for business, hiring, tactical, or hiring strategies? Or to be cruder, how many other business lies are out there mucking things up?

There's a re-evaluation of business tactics and laws going on. Maybe its time to re-evaluate supposed technological "truths" as well.

And maybe we techies can use this as yet another example of the hype over reality in technology, since WorldCom is in the use. Next time someone non-technical tosses out something obviously ridiculous, bring THIS up and ask them where they got their idea.

Another Company Taking Advantage of the Hype! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3946493)

posted by apple lied yesterday:

Q: Will the new for-pay .Mac service be more reliable?
A: No.
Q: Will there be a phone number to call for technical support?
A: No.
Q: Will there be an e-mail address to report outages?
A: No.
Q: Will there, in fact, be any support at all?
A: No.
Q: Will the 100MB of storage come with an increased bandwidth limit for web sites?
A: No.
Q: Will you be telling us what the bandwidth limits are?
A: No.
Q: Will you support CGI, PHP, SSI, SQL, servlets, JSP, WebObjects applications, or anything else beyond regular static HTML files?
A: No.
Q: Will I be able to get access to my web logs? Or any other realtime webspace access statistics?
A: No.
Q: What about backup--our files are safe if we back them up to iDisk, right?
A: No. Apple does not guarantee the integrity of any files on iDisk, even if placed there by the Apple Backup software.
Q: Well, we can at least use the Backup software to back up our computers to CD-R, right?
A: No, not if you have any files bigger than 650MB.
Q: What about using my external tape drive, DVD drive or Firewire hard drive?
A: No, Backup only works with Apple-supplied internal drives. And only if you're a .mac member.
Q: So the backup software doesn't back up from my local hard disk to my local CD burner, unless I have a .Mac membership and an active net connection?
A: Correct.
Q: OK. The service also includes anti-virus software. Are there any Mac OS X viruses at all?
A: No.
Q: If I don't use Microsoft Office, do I need to worry about macro viruses?
A: No.
Q: Umm... OK. So how much for this invaluable service?
A: $99 for one year. Plus tax. In advance.
Q: Can I get two accounts, for me and my wife?
A: Sure, that'll be $198 plus tax. In advance.
Q: No, I mean can I get a second account at a discount because I've already bought one?
A: Oh, alright then, quit whining. You can get a second account for $10 a year if you buy one full account.
Q: And it'll have the backup, anti-virus, and web functionality?
A: No, only an e-mail address.
Q: Ah... but at least it'll be a full e-mail account, right?
A: No, you'll only get 5MB of space. But that's nearly enough to hold five days' spam.
Q: Can't my two accounts just share the same space for a nominal extra fee?
A: No.
Q: Is there a satisfaction guarantee?
A: Yes. Apple reserves the right to terminate your access to the online services and the software, without cause, without notice and without refunding your money, if it's not satisfied with your behavior.
Q: What kinds of things am I not allowed to post on my web site?
A: Anything "lewd" or "vulgar", anything "embarrassing" to anyone, or anything that counts as advertising for any product or service.
Q: So you want $99 a year for an e-mail address, useless backup software, anti-virus software I could buy for $50, and web space limited to inoffensive pictures of fluffy kittens? $99 even if I only want to keep the "lifetime e-mail address" that you previously said was free just for buying a Mac?
A: Yes. Pay up now, in three weeks we'll delete your files and bounce your mail.
Q: I have one more question... What exactly are you smoking out there in Cupertino?
A: We think it's crack. Think different.

Re:Another Company Taking Advantage of the Hype! (1)

SirSlud (67381) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946625)

As much as I vohmently hate the phrase "Caveat Emptor", when it comes to "So and so for life" offers, its just common sense to understand that absolutely nobody on this planet can garauntee anything service for life.

So move on .. crap, didn't anybody learn anything from e-World (Apple, included?)

My own rock-solid calculations. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3946498)

For the sake of argument I'll say that there were 1,000 people on the internet in 1995.

It's been 100 days since then 25 times over.

So now there are now exactly 33,554,432,000 people online and we all speak english.

Exponential growth (5, Informative)

Maniakes (216039) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946499)

According to this [ziplink.net], there was about 1 gbps of internet traffic in 1995.

If this doubled every 100 days, there would be 50,000 terabits per second of internet traffic today. There's actually less than one terabit/sec of traffic.

By 2010, we could expect more bits per second of internet traffic than there are atoms in the universe.

Re:Exponential growth (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3946608)

By 2010, we could expect more bits per second of internet traffic than there are atoms in the universe. Yes assuming theres an endless population of people. Which there isn't. So NO.

Re:Exponential growth (2)

fobbman (131816) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946616)

By 2010, we could expect more bits per second of internet traffic than there are atoms in the universe.

Then what will be used to transmit that traffic?

Capacity doubled - usage didn't (5, Interesting)

hughk (248126) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946508)

Nobody would put down a single fibre. It is too expensive to physically lay it. You lay two (or more) fibres instead but leave them unused (dark fibre). However, repeaters are there it is just they aren't attached wither end. Theoretically all you need is to connect a switch and you have your extra capacity.

This should have meant high bandwidth and low prices, but as suppliers like Worldcom had to borrow heavily for their infrastructure costs, they were stuck with high prices. Something similar happened with Deutsche Telekom in Germany. They built a fibre network through the former DDR but borrowed heavily to finance it. The things is that nobody was going to pay for that capacity at a premium price. Telekom didn't mess around with their predictions in the way that Worldcom did, but they also came unstuck.

The problem comes down to the revenue models and the telecom analysts in the banks. If I have a bank of 64K connections and I upgrade them to 1024K, I can't simply charge 16 times the price. A few customers can afford this (think banks), but many others can not.

Capacity including dark fibre definitely was doubling every 100 days but usage wasn't and certainly not revenue.

Moore's Law (1)

Soporific (595477) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946510)

I would believe Moore's law could apply to doubling of internet usage, but that is every 18 months or so. They seem to state that it's growing exponentially by doubling every 100 days. Wouldn't every ten months be something like 10 to the power of 2 in traffic?


Things which double every 100 days (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3946512)

Bill Gate's nett worth
Microsoft's profits
Windows bugs
IIS security holes
The number of digits in the latest I.E. version number
The megabytage of Windows Media Player
The number of countries George Bush wants to bomb
The length of Richard Stallman's beard
The number of trolls on Slashdot

how about shrinkage (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3946519)

LNUX shares hovering currently at 0.61 per share.

How much longer?

Re:how about shrinkage (-1)

Stock Quote Troll (583080) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946650)

At the current price being so low below $1, I can foresee LNUX being de-listed sooner than anyone else expects. It's going to be hard to bring the price back up in the current market conditions.

You heard it here first! LNUX will be de-listed August 17th! Screw having parties for the release of Mozilla/other open sores projects - we can have a party for the de-listing of LNUX!

Moral: The media are stupid and lazy (5, Insightful)

guacamolefoo (577448) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946533)

This issue (a dubious statistic repeated infinitely in press) results from the fact that facts are not checked thoroughly before publication. This sort of stuff happened with the stats the women's movement used, environmentalists, conservative groups, etc. The number of women dying from eating disorders was a classic error that was endlessly cycled and never questioned until the misconception was permanently rooted in the public consciousness.

Every interest group pushing an agenda (yes, even profit-seeking corporations seeking to sell more bandwith) seems to come up with some dubious statistic like this. The media gobble up press releases, disguised oftentimes as "studies" which are bought and paid for by the interest group, and they spit them out on in the newspapers and other media outlets, sometimes virtually unchanged.

I am not surprised by the Economist's story -- I am surprised that it took so long for it to make it into print. I wonder how many times the Economist itself published that same "fact" before discovering that the emporer had no clothes.

At the University where I work... (3, Interesting)

RumGunner (457733) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946540)

Usage tends to grow by leaps and bounds every time someone comes up with a new file sharing protocol.

Maybe that statement was from the good ol' days of Napster.

Next thing you know... (1)

Goat In The Shell (320974) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946545)

...they'll be telling us that these claims about penis growth that I keep getting in my mailbox are all a myth too...

Come on. Lets place blame, where blame is due. (2, Interesting)

EvlOvrLrd (559820) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946549)

This perversion of Moore's Law was a fault (in part by the telecom industry for believing the hype that the rest of the money grubbing industries where touting. Movies over the Net. Everyone telecommuting. Attend college classes from home. More retail content than you can choke on. Plus a bevy of other "wouldn't it be cool" party line hype that drove the bubble. Me? I blame it on the GUI and Mouse. If it wasn't for those things, the Net would still be a usefull place (tool, etc).

Doesn't surprise me (2, Insightful)

EMDischarge (589758) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946574)

WorldCom isn't the first telecom to go bankrupt. This trend in this industry is just accelerating. Blame it on the classic business cycle: overbuilding, in this case excess capacity, traditionally overflowing inventories, usually are the downfall of boom times. This is especially true in the telecom industry. Sure, there's capacity, but instead of lowering prices to encourage consumption, the telecoms have to meet the bottom line. Unfortunately for some this is causing an industry shake-out.

Same Song, Second Verse (0)

jwolgamott (568248) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946575)

Companies such as Global Crossing and Qwest soon resorted to "hollow swaps" and other dubious tricks to boost sales and traffic figures.
This is the same scam the energy companies were pulling with the CA outages - faking demand across networks. I predict some major bankruptcies will follow in telcom and energy.

good write-up over at LightReading (5, Informative)

JUSTONEMORELATTE (584508) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946593)

LightReading [lightreading.com] had a very well-researched [lightreading.com] article about this earlier in the week. Here's a quote from the article, where a former employee explains the numbers:
Here's how it worked, according to the former WorldCom employee: WorldCom would hook up new customers with connections capable of handling, say, up to 1.5 Mbit/s of data, knowing that for most of the time the lines would only carry a fraction of this amount. WorldCom would then use the 1.5 Mbit/s figures, not the actual traffic figures, when citing Internet traffic growth statistics.

"There was massive connectivity growth, but UUNET's business wasn't growing as much, "says the former employee.
UUNET was (still is?) a division of Worldcom.

Not a myth (1)

Monkey Angst (577685) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946635)

It's all a misunderstanding. What they meant to say was internet USERS double in size every ten days. I know I do.

Worldcom Blame... (4, Insightful)

Kakarat (595386) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946646)

I am sure that Worldcom's bloated statistics did mislead some, however it's quite convenient where the other companies are laying the blame.

Rival telecoms companies believed the myth and cited UUNET's figures, even if their own traffic figures disagreed.

I find it disturbing that these rival telecom companies aren't making their own decisions. "Tech: Sir, we are only using 3% of our bandwidth and 45% of the nations traffic traverse our networks. CEO: Damnit, can't you hear? We need more bandwidth!! MOORRRREEE!!!!"

Worldcom (3, Interesting)

ajs (35943) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946651)

Meanwhile, MCI/Worldcom/UUNET was dubbed "Whipping Boy of the Hour" by 17 leading pseudo-news organizations around the world.

Why is it that we pretend that such over-zealous predictions are unique?

Worldcom is in trouble so attacking them is easy: they have bigger fish to fry. If you go after Sprint this way, those bastards might sue you!

LNUX -.13 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3946652)

C'mon now, stop bashing all of the Linux advocates: They Have A Vision!

The stock market is a little down lately; it is a sign of the times. ALL stocks are down. LNUX has had its share of troubles too, but they will come back because they are a GREAT company.

They aren't down that much, really, from $300 to $0.74 isn't that big of a deal. The glass is half full, my LNUX friends

A statistic I'd be much more likely to believe (5, Funny)

realgone (147744) | more than 11 years ago | (#3946663)

"The number of articles written about WorldCom and its ilk doubles every 100 days."

... and... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#3946664)

If you shave, it'll grow back thicker!

So, if Alan Coxs shaves, his head'll become one big follicle.

God, that's just an ugly thought!
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