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RIAA Smacked by DoS

CmdrTaco posted about 12 years ago | from the gonna-get-messy-before-it-gets-clean dept.

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nekid writes "ZDNet is reporting that the RIAA's website was hit by a denial-of-service (DoS) attack over the weekend, most likely in response to their endorsement of legislation that would give them permission to do the same to personal computers that are pirating music (see earlier article). Seems to me that they are killing themselves with bad public relations..." But it seems to me that they don't care, and are instead banking on the ignorance of the bulk of the world.

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hahahahah (4, Funny)

hether (101201) | about 12 years ago | (#3978330)

Too funny. Someone's been reading user friendly and decided to fight back perhaps?

Re:hahahahah (1)

unicron (20286) | about 12 years ago | (#3978429)

No one reads user friendly anymore.

Great job... (5, Insightful)

Drizzten (459420) | about 12 years ago | (#3978333)

Give the media and the average American more reason to think the people the RIAA are against are little more than immature "hackers."

Re:Great job... (1)

undeg chwech (589211) | about 12 years ago | (#3978379)

The ZDNet article focused more on the RIAA side of things - describing the legislation and quoting such immature gems as "Perhaps it at least took 10 minutes away from stealing music."

Mature (3, Insightful)

FortKnox (169099) | about 12 years ago | (#3978335)

Yup, the best way to convince a large corporation/government office/anyone over the age of 20, is to act like a child.

Immaturity like this only HARMS what we are trying to do.

Grow up kids.

Re:Mature (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3978368)

I think your not realising that brilliant irony of the situation. BTW, can you say WOOT?

When is the next round gonna be?

Re:Mature (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3978388)

Yeah, great irony.

We will give government officials of B governing body the ability to carry weapons.
Lets shoot some of them to show some good irony!!

I think its (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3978402)

w00t!

Re:Mature (5, Insightful)

unformed (225214) | about 12 years ago | (#3978428)

Immaturity like this only HARMS what we are trying to do.

Grow up kids.


That's right; the adult way to convince corporation/government office/anyone over the age of 20, is with green things.

And no, I'm not talking about grass.

Re:Mature (4, Insightful)

FortKnox (169099) | about 12 years ago | (#3978474)

My point was, there are MATURE ways of combating the legislation. Write letters to your congressman. Using "mob rule" strategies will just make it worse (they'll go against congress with a "see? This is what we are trying to stop!" attitude, and congress will agree).

Hacking someone that's using hacking as a stepping stone to circumvent laws is just plain stupid.

Re:Mature (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3978489)

er, you mean ... pot?

Re:Mature (2)

garett_spencley (193892) | about 12 years ago | (#3978501)

That's right; the adult way to convince corporation/government office/anyone over the age of 20, is with green things.

And no, I'm not talking about grass.


Yup. As well as convincing the govt., a lot of good ol' Mary Jane would be able to convince me of pretty much anything too ;)

... assuming of course that by "grass" you're talking about the stuff that grows on your lawn...

--
Garett

Re:Mature (2)

selectspec (74651) | about 12 years ago | (#3978451)

How about acting like a "criminal." I'm sure that Andovernet would prosecute anyone who DOS'd ./ over a political disagreement. These DOS attacks are not justice, nor should the slashdot editorial staff take show immature and irresponsible sympathy to the culprits.

Re:Mature (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3978458)

Shut the fuck up you RIAA loving, free speech hating son of a bitch. The RIAA and MPAA are evil and somebody has to stop them. I am happy people are giving them what they deserve.

Great... (2, Interesting)

brad-x (566807) | about 12 years ago | (#3978337)

Certainly not the most constructive of things to be doing to an organisation that already wants to paint internet users as miscreants, largely. One wonders if they'll approach Congress and call it an act of anti-captitalist terrorism ... :P Funny though. :)

Re:Great... (1)

haz-mat (8531) | about 12 years ago | (#3978446)

We can only hope: anti-captitalist terrorism. I've been biding the time until we resurect good ole Joe McCarthy. It's definetly funny that they are assaulted with the very means that they want made legal to use against the various "miscreants" of the internet. Unfortunately, I think that the majority of the people that will understand the message/ the irony of the events are reading this thread right now. Too bad no one in the media-proper will get the message, get it out, that we as a community will be once again villified and be depicted as piriahas of our society. Too bad...

and why not? (4, Insightful)

WildBeast (189336) | about 12 years ago | (#3978339)

If the RIAA is allowed to do a DoS attack, I don't see why individuals should be forbidden to do so.

In short: No one should be able to legally commit such a crime.

Re:and why not? (5, Insightful)

Amarok.Org (514102) | about 12 years ago | (#3978403)

If the RIAA is allowed to do a DoS attack, I don't see why individuals should be forbidden to do so
Because it's illegal, that's why.

The RIAA isn't allowed to, either. They're supporting legislation which would allow them to, but it's not currently legal.

The way to make a concinvincing case against legalizing a certain activity is NOT to commit that crime yourself.
My $.02.

Re:and why not? (1)

spencerogden (49254) | about 12 years ago | (#3978425)

The mob should never be allowed to do what the individual cannot

Re:and why not? (2)

garett_spencley (193892) | about 12 years ago | (#3978430)

A couple reasons:

a) The bill hasn't passed yet. At present time they are not allowed to DOS anyone.

b) They haven't DOS'd anyone to date AFAIK.

c) When they are allowed if you really want to play "an eye for an eye..." then, by your own standards, you have no right to DOS them unless they DOS you and you can prove it.

d) IMO two wrongs don't make a right. There's a better way to fight. But this one is entirely subjective and I expect many to disagree.

--
Garett

Re:and why not? (2)

Slak (40625) | about 12 years ago | (#3978463)

Because the RIAA bought^H^H^H^H^H^Hlobbied for a legislative exception (ok, the bill has not actually been signed into law, yet). If an individual wants to do a DoS, he should simply lobby Congress for a similar exception beforehand.

Cheers,
Slak

Re:and why not? (2)

realdpk (116490) | about 12 years ago | (#3978526)

The exception was for copyright owners. It makes no reference to "licenses", so presuambly any copyright owner can attack you if you're on the Internet and have one of their files available.

Much of the Open Source-ish software is copyrighted by individuals. Under the bill as written, they'd have every right to DoS or otherwise attack the RIAA if the RIAA was distributing their files.

The only thing is - the RIAA would drastically inflate their damages, and would crush the person. That's still legal (in as much as bribing congressfolk is currently legal).

Re:and why not? (1)

FortKnox (169099) | about 12 years ago | (#3978512)

The RIAA is using "hacking" as a stepping stool to get their law past (which would allow them to circumvent other laws).

Hacking someone who is using hacking for their argument to get what they want is just plain stupid. It just gives them a "see? This is what we are trying to stop!" argument that will favor THEM more than the script kiddies.

Gotta cheer the script kiddies.... (3, Funny)

reaper20 (23396) | about 12 years ago | (#3978340)

Everyonce in a while they make us all grin from ear to ear.

Re:Gotta cheer the script kiddies.... (2)

Noofus (114264) | about 12 years ago | (#3978369)

It might be mildly entertaining to see a pain in the ass entity like the RIAA get smacked by script kiddies. However, all this is going to do is cause the RIAA to say "SEE told ya so". The RIAA wants to make all internet users into criminals that must be monitored closely or else they will go about stealing things.

So now we have to deal with the fact that the RIAA has PROOF that "internet users are evil".

Re:Gotta cheer the script kiddies.... (2)

reaper20 (23396) | about 12 years ago | (#3978405)

There's no doubt in my mind that you are correct, this doesn't help any internet users one bit ... but I'm sure this idea has crossed all our minds a few times, it's good for a laugh I guess.

Now someone with a dremel, blowtorch, and a chainsaw in the RIAA server room ... that's a good time for everybody... :)

Re:Gotta cheer the script kiddies.... (2)

Pig Hogger (10379) | about 12 years ago | (#3978483)

Now someone with a dremel, blowtorch, and a chainsaw in the RIAA server room ... that's a good time for everybody... :)
What's the dremel for????

Re:Gotta cheer the script kiddies.... (2, Insightful)

stoolpigeon (454276) | about 12 years ago | (#3978471)

They will do that but the thing is it will continue.

This is a lot like terrorism on a much less lethal level.

Terrorists are wrong to kill people. But sometimes governments realize that the only way to stop the terrorists is to listen to them and change some things. The governments come to the conclusion that compromise is better than fighting. (I've been thinking about this a lot w/all the documentaries PBS ran on Northern Ireland recently)

There is such a widespread unhappiness w/the RIAA that it doesn't matter what they do. As long as they continue to mistreat their customers they will get hammered.

Quite frankly they need to get over the 'wrong and right' of the issue and deal with the reality. The true irony is the only reason the record companies are trying to take the moral high ground is because they don't like the reality of the situation (they can no longer control the content the way they want). If they could profit by stealing themselves (I know they already do) they would.

I do not steal copy righted music, I don't buy CDs either. And I wont ddos their site- but you wont see this kind of thing stop until they back off

.

Karma (2, Flamebait)

steveeq2 (148816) | about 12 years ago | (#3978341)

RIAA has bad karma. What goes around, comes around.

They deserve it.

Re:Karma (2)

Gizzmonic (412910) | about 12 years ago | (#3978499)

I much prefer this sort of real life karma to the inane imaginary sort that limits and extinguishes discussion on certain weblogs.

Re:Karma (1)

DetrimentalFiend (233753) | about 12 years ago | (#3978514)

And they deserve the second DOS (slashdot effect) that hit them a few minutes ago.

BWAHAHAHAHA (4, Funny)

bgarcia (33222) | about 12 years ago | (#3978342)

ZDNet is reporting that the RIAA's website was hit by a denial-of-service (DoS) attack...
And if *that* doesn't make them think twice, we'll set them up for a good slashdotting, eh CmdrTaco?

Re:BWAHAHAHAHA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3978418)

this is great...

-- ALL USERS --

CLICK HERE [riaa.com]

(many times).

Re:BWAHAHAHAHA (1)

macrom (537566) | about 12 years ago | (#3978456)

Considering they get their bandwidth from WorldCom, we may not need to /. their site. Let bankruptcy do it for them.

Even better, wait until they switch to a new provider, then "test" out their connection to see if it's up to the load.

Re:BWAHAHAHAHA (2)

AlaskanUnderachiever (561294) | about 12 years ago | (#3978525)

Too late Looks like we already killed them. Hey Taco can we get an RIAA linked story every hour or so for the next few days? . . .

Fritz (2, Funny)

benjaminbishop (245276) | about 12 years ago | (#3978348)

Whats next? Somebody going to steal Fritz Hollings credit card numbers?

PS: Note to FBI - It wasn't me!

sweet! (2, Insightful)

tps12 (105590) | about 12 years ago | (#3978349)

That'll teach those bastards. I'm going to start copy protecting my CD's, too. Two can play at this game.

Re:sweet! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3978408)

Yea, and me, I'll start damaging critical sections of my CDs so they can't be read on my drives...

slashdot (1)

capoccia (312092) | about 12 years ago | (#3978351)

>RIAA Smacked by DoS

so now we can /. them too!

Self-Defense (5, Funny)

Amazing Quantum Man (458715) | about 12 years ago | (#3978352)

The DoS'ers were obviously trying to prevent the RIAA from distributing material copyrighted by the DoS'ers. Namely DoS software.

Userfriendly (4, Interesting)

Sobrique (543255) | about 12 years ago | (#3978356)

Userfriendly link [userfriendly.org] for those who didn't see it :)
A tragic irony isn't it?
I wonder if we can start a campaign to keep the RIAA DoSed off the net. Not that I'd ever condone such a thing, but there are times when a little net abuse is so poetic.

Re:Userfriendly (1)

program21 (469995) | about 12 years ago | (#3978472)

I wonder if we can start a campaign to keep the RIAA DoSed off the net. Not that I'd ever condone such a thing, but there are times when a little net abuse is so poetic.

Right on.

Did anyone miss it? (2)

echucker (570962) | about 12 years ago | (#3978357)

Not intended to be a flame, but how many folks actually access their site? Quite a few people condemn their actions, but when was the last time you clicked your way to www.riaa.com ?

Dear Taco, (5, Funny)

liquidsin (398151) | about 12 years ago | (#3978361)

Thank you for posting that helpful link to the RIAA website [riaa.org] . This is a pressing issue, and as such, I urge everyone to go immediately to this [riaa.org] website and show your support. Now, more than ever, the RIAA [riaa.org] needs our love. So everyone, stop hammering the SSH site and give the RIAA [riaa.org] the affection they so sorely need.

Done and Done (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3978452)

HTTP Error 403
403.9 Access Forbidden: Too many users are connected

This error can be caused if the Web server is busy and cannot process your request due to heavy traffic. Please try to connect again later.

Please contact the Web server's administrator if the problem persists.

how can they complain (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3978362)

Whats good for the goose is good for the gander. I get a kick out of them refering to it as "immature" as it is what they are gunning for as their legal right.

Ofcourse they don't care, LOL. (1, Troll)

sinserve (455889) | about 12 years ago | (#3978363)

The RIAA makes more money than this crapy DoS costed them, did I need to explain that really?

This retaliative attack amounts to nothing; it was carried out my anonymous individual(s) who didn't
earn brownie points by for legal permission ;-)

Either way, two wrongs don't make it right. Stop DoSing their website and go and promote your favorite
independent music label instead.

P.S. First Post.

You couldn't be more wrong. (1)

Eric_Cartman_South_P (594330) | about 12 years ago | (#3978413)

>Either way, two wrongs don't make it right.

Say that to the 50+ men who got together and decided to become indipendant of the brits. Was it "wrong" to say "Good Bye" to the king? Sure. Was it wrong to pick up arms against the king? Sure. But see how "wrong" it was every July 4th, buddy.

Things like these... (2)

Grieveq (589084) | about 12 years ago | (#3978366)

...only give the other side more ammunition.

Hmmmmm (5, Funny)

tickleboy2 (548566) | about 12 years ago | (#3978372)

"Perhaps it at least took 10 minutes away from stealing music."

Apparently the RIAA hasn't heard of this cool technology called "multitasking". :-)

Re:Hmmmmm (1)

Sobrique (543255) | about 12 years ago | (#3978389)

Or 'zombie' DoS clients.
Which is a good thing really, when you think about it, because it means that if/when they get their legal right to DoS people, then it's not going to be a very effective one....

Never Underestimate... (1)

mrwiggly (34597) | about 12 years ago | (#3978375)

the ignorance of the bulk of the world

So ironic. (2)

www.sorehands.com (142825) | about 12 years ago | (#3978376)

I can't wait until the RIAA's computers are taken down for violating a person's copyright.

Then they will claim the law is outragious.

They just got a small taste.

RIAA Server Party (0)

crow_t_robot (528562) | about 12 years ago | (#3978382)

The rebels have thrown the empire's tea^H^H^Hservers into the harbor.
Take a hint, legislators and RIAA. The people don't like the RIAA.

heh..... (1)

pixitha (589341) | about 12 years ago | (#3978383)

they were DoS'd this weekend, and now let the legit dossing begin again... /. time

Re:heh..... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3978442)

Remember, everyone, it's RIAA.org ...

O, wait, will you look at that. Their servers are busy! What a shame.

Didn't stop me.... (5, Funny)

johnlcallaway (165670) | about 12 years ago | (#3978384)

"Perhaps it at least took 10 minutes away from stealing music." -- unnamed RIAA representative
What an idiotic thing to say. I do all my music stealing using automated scripts, I don't have to lift a finger.

Obviously the RIAA rep is not very tech savy. Of course, since their site was DoS'd, I would have to say that about the whole organization.

Hubris (1)

stoolpigeon (454276) | about 12 years ago | (#3978387)

"Don't they have something better to do during the summer than hack our site?" asked the RIAA representative, who asked not to be identified. "Perhaps it at least took 10 minutes away from stealing music."

To public show such contempt for your customers is so telling. Their arrogance is just unbelievable.

Anyone who bites the hand that feeds them this regularly will eventually starve to death. You can take that to the bank.

A safe bet... (2, Insightful)

thewheel (92774) | about 12 years ago | (#3978401)


But it seems to me that they don't care,
and are instead banking on the ignorance
of the bulk of the world.
Unfortunately, this is a pretty safe bet to take.

exactly (2)

Ender Ryan (79406) | about 12 years ago | (#3978404)

"But it seems to me that they don't care, and are instead banking on the ignorance of the bulk of the world."

Exactly, they believe most people are stupid. They are, in essence, flipping the bird at every single citizen of every country they operate in.

Glad they care about their customers!

Re:exactly (2)

Pig Hogger (10379) | about 12 years ago | (#3978513)

Glad they care about their customers!
The RIAA's customers are the record companies, not the general public at large.

bad publicity... (4, Interesting)

bje2 (533276) | about 12 years ago | (#3978407)

wow, didn't they get enough publicity when this story [slashdot.org] was announced last week...i'm not saying they should have ignored this DOS attack, but it seems to me the RIAA rep had a little too much attitude with quotes like "Don't they have something better to do during the summer than hack our site?" and especially "Perhaps it at least took 10 minutes away from stealing music."...talk about antogonizing the masses...couldn't they comment on this story without being blatantly condescending and arrogant???

on the good side, maybe the link to the RIAA website [riaa.com] with this story will slashdot their site and bring it down again....

I have been Oppressed for the past 72 hours (-1)

roadkill999 (594008) | about 12 years ago | (#3978410)

Dear Readers,

I have been banned for 72 hours for trolling but now
I am back for a quick post before I get banned again.
It upsets me greatly that the Slashdot Nazis won't
let me post chapters from LOTR, insulting comments
or other random garbage.

I wish I was a haX0r and then I would do some stuff
with viruses and that Denial of Business thing that
everyone keeps going on about.

I the meantime I am open to suggestions for new
and exciting trolling venues. Hey, lets start a
discussion....where do the cool trolls hang out?

Sincerely yours,

roadkill999

Um, no (1)

FullClip (139644) | about 12 years ago | (#3978412)

They were trying out their Stacheldraht setup
but the whole thing backfired ;)

The Solution (1)

Garridan (597129) | about 12 years ago | (#3978432)

This will be an easy problem to solve. Write a counter-DoSer, and slip it into GNUtella. Simply, there are many more of us than there are of them. If a GNUtella client detects a DoS attack, we respond with a DDoS attack. We win, hands down, every time.

You reap what you sow... (1)

wjp3 (241343) | about 12 years ago | (#3978434)

Plain and simple.

Bad public relations? Doubtful. (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3978436)

Seems to me that they are killing themselves with bad public relations...
Think different.

Here's the predicted headline: "Hackers Respond to RIAA's Proposed Legislation By Vandalizing Website".

That is, RIAA: mature and respectful, Anti-RIAA: bratty idiotic thugs.

And another (1)

Fembot (442827) | about 12 years ago | (#3978437)

by the deluge of slashdot readers

Did it happen? (2, Insightful)

Analog Penguin (550933) | about 12 years ago | (#3978443)

The article cites no source for the information, besides the RIAA itself. Can we be sure that it actually happened, and wasn't just a way for the RIAA to make themselves look like the victim in this whole situation?

"Don't they have something better to do during the summer than hack our site?" asked the RIAA representative, who asked not to be identified. "Perhaps it at least took 10 minutes away from stealing music."

That's certainly a nice way to deflect the issue. It's like a mantra with these guys!

" On Thursday, the RIAA endorsed a bill written by Rep. Howard Berman, D-Calif., that would authorize copyright holders to begin "blocking, diverting or otherwise impairing" peer-to-peer networks.

RIAA CEO Hilary Rosen said in a statement that Berman's bill was "an innovative approach," adding that "it makes sense to clarify existing laws to ensure that copyright owners--those who actually take the time and effort to create an artistic work--are at least able to defend their works from mass piracy."


Call me a skeptic, but that reads a whole lot more like a "Hey, those guys are bad, so side with us" thing than anything else. While I trust in the immaturity of script kiddies, I'm not convinced that this attack even happened. If it did, though...well...come on guys, this isn't helping us any.

Who were the culprits? (1)

DearSlashdot (592493) | about 12 years ago | (#3978447)

Maybe some of the thousands of artists raped by the RIAA over the years decided to act on the spirit of this new bill and assert their rights to attack an organization dedicated to stealing their intellectual property.

DOS? No! (1)

Lord Bitman (95493) | about 12 years ago | (#3978449)

Probably just the slashdot effect. You guys should be more careful who you link to!

RIAA technology is outdated (4, Funny)

dknj (441802) | about 12 years ago | (#3978450)

Please please please tell me this is faked [netcraft.com]

-dk

Interesting Quotes (1)

Nethergoat (597008) | about 12 years ago | (#3978453)

From the article:
"Don't they have something better to do during the summer than hack our site?" asked the RIAA representative, who asked not to be identified.
Well, in that case, since this is now considered 'hacking their site,' don't they have anything better to do than 'hack' the computers of people they suspect to be trading mp3s illegally?

And then:

"Perhaps it at least took 10 minutes away from stealing music."
It's exactly this mentality of "Everybody's stealing our money!" that risks our privacy rights getting the legislative screw.

What is amusing is..... (3, Interesting)

Viewsonic (584922) | about 12 years ago | (#3978465)

If the RIAA downloads illegal MP3s, even to check to see if they're legit illegal copies, this in turn opens THEM of for legit DoS attacks. The person in question that is doing the "checking" for the RIAA better own the right to every single MP3 he downloads. They're going to need to have the artists themselves sit at the cpus and do the DoS's for this to even be legal, it can't be based around "trust". Quite an evil little repurcussion .. If this goes live, it will effectively DESTROY the RIAA.

and they can't really speak bad about it (1)

DrkShadow (72055) | about 12 years ago | (#3978475)

If they say it was something disruptive or costly to them, it'll go against their case as being something harmful, completely unnecessary. Kinda interested in all they have to say on the issue :-)

-DrkShadow

I think it's just been hit by another one (1)

alienw (585907) | about 12 years ago | (#3978476)

Behold the power of slashdot. Maybe Taco should start featuring riaa.com more often.

/. -ed (1)

den_erpel (140080) | about 12 years ago | (#3978477)

Whoohoo!

and now it is being slashdotted :)
Is this a "legit DoS"?

Too many users connected.

Oh, well, they don't have anything to say that would interest me anyway, it's just my curiousity getting the better of me...

They should have waited.... (2)

Dr. Bent (533421) | about 12 years ago | (#3978480)

Here's the right way to do this:

1) Wait until this insane law passes
2) Set up a webpage with a lot of "warez" & "mp3z" stuff on it. (Don't forget to include the popups!)
3) As content, however, include only songs for which you own the copyrights. Name the files to look like popular songs for which you do not own the copyright.
4) Log everyone who downloads those files and wait until someone from riaa.com downloads one.
5) Follow all the procedures laid out in the law for launching a DoS attack and do so.
6) Issue a press release. Get as much publicity as you can. "I hacked the RIAA website and it was COMPLETELY LEGAL!" etc...

so what? (2)

Sebastopol (189276) | about 12 years ago | (#3978481)


Gee, the RIAA website is SOOOO important. Ever been to it? Taking down their website does not hurt them, because it's only provided as a marketing angle, it will in NO way hurt their business (like DoS'ing Amazon for example).

from the gonna-get-messy-before-it-gets-clean dept (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3978482)

you can say that again

Vigilante Justice (1)

austinBlues (91975) | about 12 years ago | (#3978486)

When you want to legalize vigilante justice, you better make sure you can outgun everyone. When it comes to the Internet, RIAA hasn't got a chance. Of course, this is why they went whining to Washington in the first place.

I'd love it if several of the RIAA people went to prison for live for hacking. Two wrongs make a righteous fantasy!

Problems with multi layer of communications (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3978488)

RIAA CEO Hilary Rosen said in a statement that Berman's bill was "an innovative approach," adding that "it makes sense to clarify existing laws to ensure that copyright owners--those who actually take the time and effort to create an artistic work--are at least able to defend their works from mass piracy."

But the bill was ill written : it actually give all power to RIAA, instead of permiting artists to fight it.

Logs of the attack (1)

stuyman (46850) | about 12 years ago | (#3978490)

Declan also posted logs of the way the server was responding all weekend at http://www.mccullagh.org/bin/riaamon/ [mccullagh.org] in case anyone is curious how bad it got...it rotates the logs out, so look before they're gone

Pot. Kettle. Black. (5, Funny)

PK_ERTW (538588) | about 12 years ago | (#3978491)

"Don't they have something better to do during the summer than hack our site?" asked the RIAA representative, who asked not to be identified. "Perhaps it at least took 10 minutes away from stealing music."

"Doesn't the RIAA have anything better to do than hacking into my website?" asked a pimply 15-year old who asked to be called "H@ckeR d00d." "perhaps it at least took 10 minutes away from fucking over artists."

Banking on the ignorance of the bulk of the world (0)

johnhyland (187827) | about 12 years ago | (#3978494)

"Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public."
- P. T. Barnum

/. effect in action (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#3978498)

403.9 Access Forbidden: Too many users are connected

Change a few words and... (2)

MarvinMouse (323641) | about 12 years ago | (#3978500)

"Don't they have something better to do during the summer than hack the P2P servers?" asked the hacker representative, who asked not to be identified. "Perhaps it at least took 10 minutes away from their stealing money."

Geez, It's like listening to a bunch of children, eh?

their website infringes... (1)

bje2 (533276) | about 12 years ago | (#3978503)

considering their so big on "infringing" on other's electronic rights, and "stealing" and illegal copies of things, there are some nice "gif" images on their website...hmmmm....

DoS? psssh... Slashdot Effect (1)

cryptor3 (572787) | about 12 years ago | (#3978509)

Why DoS when you can Slashdot 'em?

We'll make it an international event, where we make August 1, 2002 at 10:00 PM CDT the Repeatedly-visit-the-RIAA-website Day.

Yeah, that helps alot (2)

roman_mir (125474) | about 12 years ago | (#3978510)

And in the other news: the US is setting up road blocks on all remaining functional roads in Afghanistan. All 5 road blocks have being successful at not letting any Usama Bin Laden followers in or out of the country. It is not clear though whether the road blocks were successful or whether terrorists have being unlawfully and actively avoiding the road blocks by taking alternative mountine and underground paths.

voluntary dos (5, Interesting)

drDugan (219551) | about 12 years ago | (#3978511)


#!/usr/bin/perl

while (1){

`wget "http://www.riaa.com" -nc -r -l 0 -k -nH -o /dev/null -O /dev/null`;

}

# one of many many ways to do this...

In these troubled times.... (1)

mike3411 (558976) | about 12 years ago | (#3978515)

"Banking on the ignorance of the bulk of the world" is one of the few remaining safe bets.

Don't you get it? Their job is to get bad PR (5, Insightful)

Sanity (1431) | about 12 years ago | (#3978518)

The RIAA doesn't care about public relations, their whole purpose is to take the heat and protect the brand names of the companies behind them such as Sony and EMI.

Arguing that bad PR will make the RIAA think twice about doing something is like arguing that a fish won't want to get wet.

and next .. (2)

josepha48 (13953) | about 12 years ago | (#3978519)

.. they will probably get 'owned' by some cracker in another part of the world where they have no jurisdiction.

Things like the DCMS, RIAA, MPAA, all piss of the cracker community and the hacker community. (Hmm notice they are all 4 letter words .. guess they must be bad words ).

To me the DCMA says if you buy this then you don't really own it. I own my redhat cdrom. I can make copies of it and modify it. I can't legally do that in the US according to the above mentioned 4 letter words. That's why I use open source case MS and all the other MS vendors do that crap too.

Think of this (1)

Jacer (574383) | about 12 years ago | (#3978520)

RIAA needs backing for their bill, they pay some script kiddie a few grand to DoS them, they report it but don't have enough information to get the script kiddie, they get backing for the bill, everyone wins, or rather, the RIAA wins.

Geese and Ganders (1)

raumdass (210351) | about 12 years ago | (#3978522)

The question of whether this DOS attack was immature/brave/foolish/revolutionary is up for debate, but I hope that the attack at least brought some attention to the fact that what happened to the RIAA this weekend is exactly what they are trying to get the right to do leagally to P2P networks and users! We are talking about giving the RIAA the legal right to break and enter and vandalize. And for what? Because the have the money to have enough lobbyists and enough congressmen in thier pocket to earn them that right?

I for one smiled just a bit when I heard the new this morning, and it also reminded me that I had a letter to my congress(wo)man to write.

The best part (2)

Chris Burke (6130) | about 12 years ago | (#3978524)

Is when Mrs. Rosen said: "it makes sense to clarify existing laws to ensure that copyright owners--those who actually take the time and effort to create an artistic work--are at least able to defend their works from mass piracy."

Oh, right, this isn't a new law granting vigilante powers to big media, it's a clarification of existing law! The laws already on the books meant to put enforcement of the law into the hands of the RIAA, it just wasn't worded clearly.

That's damn hilarious, but also sad, because she gets to have her insane comment quoted in a serious context. If the next line of the article was "A passing rational human was quoted as saying: 'Clarification of existing law? What the hell is she smoking?'" then we might have some balance. Oh well.

Wow! (1)

MrPerfekt (414248) | about 12 years ago | (#3978528)

And I thought NAMBLA was the most hated organization in the country. :)

On a serious note tho, while this certainly doesn't accomplish anything, niether does the RIAA's proposed "solution"... The article just goes to show how one-sided, narrow-minded, the RIAA is.

Oh well, someday when their business model changes after world peace has been achieved, we'll look back at this and chuckle.

The Irony (1)

Saint Mitchell (144618) | about 12 years ago | (#3978530)

....is that most likely they will attempt to prosecute the parties responsible. Yet, they don't want to be held accountable to these same laws. It reminds me of the south park episode when chef was taken to court for telling the RIAA someone stold his stinky britches song.

I am above the law!

Re: RIAA, Eat this. (1)

lightcycler (587416) | about 12 years ago | (#3978532)

"Don't they have something better to do during the summer than hack our site?" asked the RIAA representative, who asked not to be identified

A good question indeed, for the people who've campaigned long and hard for permission to do this very same thing.

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