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Douglas Adams, Narnia, and Trailers

michael posted more than 12 years ago | from the aslan-says-don't-panic dept.

Movies 380

A few interesting movie tidbits: Joel Greengrass writes "Final post-production has been completed on the long awaited documentary, 'Life, the Universe, and Douglas Adams.' Narrated by Neil Gaiman, the film is a tribute documentary about the life, loves, and passions, of the greatest sci fi comedy writer ever, Douglas Adams. The film will be available for sale on August 4 at" Reader The_Shadows writes "Sci-fi Storm and's Scifi-wire are reporting that Walden Media exercised options for feature-length, big screen versions of the Chronicles of Narnia, by C. S. Lewis. They have also found an Emmy award winning writer (Ann Peacock) to adapt the most famous book, 'The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe.'" And finally, there's an interesting piece about the process of turning a two-hour movie into a two-minute trailer.

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FIRST POST (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3980387)



Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3980440)


The CAT (Community of Anonymous Trolls, led by Anonymous Coward) is working to overturn the CLIT. CLIT shall die!!! HAHAHAHA!!!


YourMissionForToday (556292) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980597)

Wake up and smell the catbox, punk. That battle is long over, and the CLIT won. Now we must all band together!

First Post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3980399)

First post!

Michael Sims, and Censorship (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3980403)

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Re:Michael Sims, and Censorship (-1, Troll)

GodnataS (594076) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980444)

Easy don't like the system here? Leave. The Moderators can run their site any way they want to.

Re:Michael Sims, and Censorship (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3980466)

moderators? you mean editors right? since they have unlimited mod points and can repeatedly mod the same comment over and over. those are the only moderators that can run the site any way they want to.

Re:Michael Sims, and Censorship (0, Offtopic)

GodnataS (594076) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980480)

That's what I meant

Re:Michael Sims, and Censorship (-1, Offtopic)

Fehson (579442) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980446)

I think it would be nice if you would start your boycott now. Never come back to slashdot, and for the love of God, please never post again.

create your own (0, Offtopic)

pretzel_logic (576231) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980470)

if you want a web site of your own, then you must create your own. "Wise men learn more from fools than fools from the wise." - Cato, Roman censor

Re:create your own (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3980732)

crybaby hippies - this is my favorite type of response from you stupid open sores pukes. Lets see - this whole site is basically devoted to you bitching about companies trying to stop you from stealing their music, movies and software.
You cry everytime a library stops people from looking at kiddie porn. I never hear any of you sheep bleating that someone should "go get their own internet connection" to see tentacle rape sites, instead you scream that taxpayers must allow any of you pedophiles to annonymously go to the library to see pictures like this [] .
The mere mention of alleged censorship anywhere, regardless of ownership or legality, stirs this anally intrusive pack into frenzy, but try to step out of line on this site and you are immediately cast away.
Makes me glad most of you rarely leave your parent's basements.

Please post using an account (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3980491)

So that i can use the slashdot "foes" system to ignore your posts.

Re:Michael Sims, and Censorship (0, Offtopic)

DaytonCIM (100144) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980541)

You mean well. And I'll give you some points for emotion. However, signing the post anonymously is unacceptable.

If you have something to say (which it looks like you do) step up and say it... but don't hide away. Stand up for yourself, your beliefs.

Bottom line: if it's important enough to create a petition and post several messages; it's important enough to put your name on it.

Until you do, you're just another flaimbait-posting, Anonymous Coward.

Squeezing (1, Interesting)

boowax (229348) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980409)

Its hard enough to squeeze those books into a 2 hour movie, much less into a 2 minute trailer designed to show every interesting part of the movie before you go and see it.

Re:Squeezing (5, Insightful)

Noofus (114264) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980485)

The problem comes when you notice that the story line of the movie being promoted is so thin, that you got the entire story in the 150 seconds. I can think of many movies who's trailer started off convincing me to see the movie, but by the end have told me that I got the whole deal for free, while waiting for the feature.

The few times I ended up seeing a movie after determining its entire useful content was dumped into the trailer, I either walked out due to lameness, or just bitched about it to my movie-going companion the whole way home :)

The *art* of trailer making. (2)

Alkaiser (114022) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980647)

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see how this can POSSIBLY that hard, artistic, or time-consuming when all they end up doing is either telling you everything about the film or nothing at all except the title...which is of course, subject to change.

Nowadays, you get stuff like the Terminator 3 "trailer" or the Solaris "trailer" which make you turn to whoever's sitting next to you and go, "Well, that was fucking informative. That movie's out, when? Next year? Better mark that down in my calendar."

Honestly, I learned all the skills necessary to put every trailer I've ever seen together back in High School using Adobe Premiere and a Power PC. It's no different today. The reason it takes this guy so long to make anything is the same reason it takes 6 months to design a webpage. All the idiots up in marketing will hum and haw while the designer and artists tear their hair out creating 15 different designs, only to decide in the end they just want it to look like MSN or Yahoo.

Boo fricking hoo, Mr. Trailer Creator. Join the club.

Excercised options... (2, Insightful)

samjam (256347) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980416)

"Walden Media exercised options for feature-length, big screen versions of the Chronicles of Narnia, "

Of course that doesn't mean it will get any further than the film on Doom did.


Re:Excercised options... (1)

elmegil (12001) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980479)

At least they have some options worth exercising :-)

How to Make a Trailer: (3, Funny)

superdan2k (135614) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980417)

Take all the best parts of the movie. String them together in one 2-minute epileptic-seizure-inducing orgasm of light and sound, preferably with some modern rock/psuedo-metal song in the background. Stick your title on the end in a grunge or techno font along with "This movie has not yet been rated," and a release date between 6 months and a year into the future.

Re:How to Make a Trailer: (3, Insightful)

SirSlud (67381) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980619)

Dont' forget the part where you make the plot in the trailer seem more interesting and bait-and-twist than the plot of the real movie.

That's a common tactic .. people should go back and watch trailers aftering watching the movie; often they make the 'plot' in the trailer more interesting than the movie.

Re:How to Make a Trailer: (2, Interesting)

eikonoklastes (530797) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980713)

> Take all the best parts of the movie ...

I remember seeing the trailers for Hot Shots (that *awful* Top Gun parody) and thinking it looked pretty funny. When my buddies and I went to see it in the theater, we discovered that ALL of the previews came from the openning credits. Assuming the rest of the movie must suck (or else they would pull scenes from it) we left. Snuck into a different movie.

Much later I rented the movie and was relieved that I left when I did in the theater.

Come to think of it, that was the only time a movie trailer has ever done anything for me. Usually (at least lately) they serve only as spoilers for movies. Now I flip the channel whenever a preview for a movie I want to see comes on TV and I try to show up for movies late to avoid the trailers.

Do We Care? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3980426)


Narnia Movies Already (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3980435)

I am pretty sure that I already own some Narnia movies. A check on IDMB [] confirms that some made for TV movies existed in 1988.

Re:Narnia Movies Already (1)

jigokukoinu (549392) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980517)

Yes, but some well done movies would be nice for the Narnians in us all! I wanna se a CG Reepicheep!

Re:Narnia Movies Already (2)

JCCyC (179760) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980634)

Make that 1979 [] .

I saw the movie when I was 13, and the Jesusness of the lion did impress me a lot.

Greatest Scifi Comedy Writer.... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3980436)

Oh.. we are not talking about the author of Battlefield Earth then ;)

OH! Comedy... (1)

stoolpigeon (454276) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980477)

I didn't see that my first read through and almost busted a vein or two.


Re:Greatest Scifi Comedy Writer.... (2, Interesting)

ScoLgo (458010) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980489)

Hubbard never intended Battlefield Earth to be a 'comedy'. It just turned into one in the hands of Hollywood and Travolta. The best Hubbard sci-fi/comedy story came in the form of the 10-volume Mission Earth - A bitingly sarcastic riot of a read IMO.

Re:Greatest Scifi Comedy Writer.... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3980576)

Naw, the true comedy is Hubbard's "About the Author" bio. Every time I see a Hubbard novel, I read the bio and snicker because it's a complete fabrication.

I'm getting drunk! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3980457)

Does any know how to make a PanGalactic GargleBlaster?

Blatant karma whoring (2, Interesting)

ComaVN (325750) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980530)

To make a Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster using Terran ingredients:

Take the liquid contained in a 200 ml bottle of EverClear to remind you that your head will be clear forever if you drink too many Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters, and that your brain will clear of anything soon after you start drinking some, if not before.

Into it, slowly pour a 750 ml bottle of Bombay Sapphire to remind you of the marvelous beauty of the old Santraginean seas, or an equal amount of Jeremiah Weed in acknowledgement of what has happened to the Santraginean Seas and their lifeforms.

Now add 750 ml of Cold Wild Turkey, letting it run into the mixture as we run through life to remind us of all the lifeforms we meet and experience while hitchhiking through the galaxy.

Speedily stirring, add 375 ml of Herradua Tequila, mixing it in to commemorate the galactic hitchhikers who died of pleasure among the vapors and gasses in the marshes of Fallia.

Over the bowl of a silver spoon, let flow 1 liter of rum in memory of the waterfalls and their glorious rainbows encountered on your journeys through the galaxy of life.

Next, drop in the worm found in a bottle of Musquil, watching it dissolve into the mixture. If the bottom falls out and the worm survives, drink at your own risk.

Finally, sprinkle into the mixture some Gatorade to commemorate the lifeforms which have vanished and are becoming extinct, both sentient and non-sentient, especially those most in need of aid.

If this many Pan-Galactic Gargle Blasters are too many for the number of people you think you are, mix together the following amounts of ingredients as described above for a single serving.

1 oz. EverClear

4 oz. Bombay Sapphire or Jeremiah Weed

4 oz. Cold Wild Turkey

2 oz. Herredura Tequila

5 oz. Rum

1 worm from bottle of Mezcla

2 oz. Gatorade

This makes one approximately 18 ounce Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster. The reason this drink seems so large is that Zaphod Beeblebrox has two heads, so when he created it, it came out to 9 ounces per head, so both were happy.

Before drinking, eat one olive to create a sweetness in it which is not there.

Drink very, very extremely carefully at your own risk, and remember where your towel is (if you can).

Re:Blatant karma whoring (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3980585)

bottle of Musquil

now that would cure a cold ....

Yuck! (0)

jedie (546466) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980537)

I heard the CDC found Vogon sperm samples in those...

these pretzels . . . (0)

Hall and Oates (575706) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980459)

. . . are making me thirsty.

Narnia Movie (3, Interesting)

DaytonCIM (100144) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980465)

A movie version of Narnia? Outstanding! I remember devouring the collection several times as a kid.

Admittedly, I'm a little hesitant about how a filmmaker could bring CS Lewis' vision to the big screen, but I'll still fork over my $8.50 to see it.

If the Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe does well, maybe some conglomerate studio can hire Tim Burton to film CS Lewis' other great book: The Screwtape Letters.

Re:Narnia Movie (1)

tolldog (1571) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980495)

By other great book, I hope you mean other great *fiction* book.

I would say that Mere Christianity is his best book. Then I would place Screwtape Letters and then the Chronicles, and then the Space series. But all of them are great works.


Re:Narnia Movie (1)

DaytonCIM (100144) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980638)

My bad: should have said one of CS Lewis' other great books.

Re:Narnia Movie (2)

JThaddeus (531998) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980768)

I haven't read the Space series but I've loved everything I've read by Lewis--Narnia, Mere Christianity, Screwtape, Miracles, The Great Divorce, etc. I don't know how Screwtape would be on the screen. As a book, it's great comedy and great instruction. It would take someone with great creativity and a sensitivity to Lewis' writings. Maybe the guy who wrote "What Dreams May Come"? I thought that one very clever--a bit of Dante, Lewis, and others.

Re:Narnia Movie (1)

Quill_28 (553921) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980697)

>If the Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe does >well, maybe some conglomerate studio can hire Tim >Burton to film CS Lewis' other great book: The >Screwtape Letters.

My God! Why would you want Tim Burton to do a C.S. Lewis book! Anyone but Tim Burton!

On another note, remember Narnia is for children, he has a bunch of great books with alot more meat. The Great Divorce being one of my favorites books of all time.

Re:Narnia Movie (1)

Allaria (547479) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980710)

The Screwtape Letters on film. Now that would be interesting. Of course some lawyer in CA would call up and complain, saying something about how Christianity shouldn't be put in American theatres.

Then we'd tie him up and force him to watch it.

The following things are gay: (-1)

CmdrTaco (troll) (578383) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980469)

Douglas Adams
Monty Python
Anyone who quotes the above.

Narnia (3, Interesting)

I_am_Rambi (536614) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980472)

Every movie that comes out does not follow the book. LoTR followed very close to the book, but wasn't quite on target all the time. I have enjoyed reading the Narnia series, but am alittle weary of the movies. C.S. Lewis is a great author, and I would hate to see his books turned into not so great of movie. I just hope that the movies follow the story line very close for me to even think of going to watch/buy them.

Re:Narnia (1)

jigokukoinu (549392) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980545)

I recently reread the first few books in the series. They read through in only a few short hours of reading, instead of the days of reading it initially took me. The story is very simple and there are really not that many "difficult-to-do" special effects. They are quite short, as well. I think that a modest budget and some good casting would end up providing a decent director all they needed to satisfy every Narnian fan's appetite.

Re:Narnia (1)

panthro (552708) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980706)

What you need to consider is that novels and films are two very different forms of narration of a story. They fill different niches; the intent is not to have one replace the other.

To depict every event from, say, the Lord of the Rings in nine hours of film, you would have to watch the entire thing in fast forward. Take Tom Bombadil and the Barrow Downs for example. That makes up much of the first book (of six). However, I think most people agree that while interesting, it was nonessential in telling the story and not worth sacrificing quality of other scenes to cram it in.

Also, there are certain other elements of LotR that are better changed for the purpose of a movie. Rather than Glorfindel the Badass-Elf-Prince-Who-Never-Shows-Up-Again fighting the Black Riders, they had Arwen do it. You'll often see several minor characters combined into or annexed by one major character in book to film transitions.

Now, as far as Narnia goes, I would definitely not want to see a movie that follows the book exactly. The beauty of Lewis' novels is that they allow your imagination to run wild; they are very fantastic (in contrast, the Lord of the Rings is more descriptive of the actual look and feel of situations). Having someone else paint the picture for me scene by scene, in the case of Narnia, would ruin all the fun. However, a movie would be cool as long as it tells the same story, albeit modified to fit the media. It's a bit like the Neverending Story. The movies weren't all that great, but not because they didn't follow Michael Ende's book exactly. They told the same story in a somewhat different way.

The point is, after watching a movie, you should be able to go read the book and enjoy all the richness it adds to the story. Conversely, after reading the book, you should be able to watch the movie and have it take you through the story without repeating everything from the book you just read.

2 minute movie trailers (4, Funny)

maddskillz (207500) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980478)

Getting a movie to fit into two minutes shouldn't be too dificult, since it has already been proven you can get five books into a trilogy

The hitchhikers guide to the galaxy (0, Flamebait)

JollyTX (103289) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980492)

Having read all the books in the Hitchhiker series, I fail to see what makes Adams the "greates sci-fi writer ever". I find them quite boring.

Re:The hitchhikers guide to the galaxy (1)

elmegil (12001) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980539)

You omitted "comedy". I think it was clear that he is by no means the "greatest sci fi writer period", but as comedy sci fi goes, who's better? I can't think of anyone particularly. Pratchett's a better writer, but is not a sci fi writer.

Re:The hitchhikers guide to the galaxy (5, Funny)

L. VeGas (580015) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980608)

Being the funniest sci fi writer is roughly equivalent in status to being the best ballet dancer in Idaho.

Re:The hitchhikers guide to the galaxy (1)

elmegil (12001) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980743)

Which doesn't mean your NOT the best ballet dancer in Idaho. So what's the point of the argument here?

Re:The hitchhikers guide to the galaxy (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3980767)

I da-ho? You da-ho!!


Re:The hitchhikers guide to the galaxy (1)

Verteiron (224042) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980680)

Actually, even though Pratchett's not a sci-fi writer per se, it's still obvious through reading his books that he's up-to-date on most of the cooler scientific concepts. After all, how else could he satirize them so accurately?

Re:The hitchhikers guide to the galaxy (1)

kingkade (584184) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980540)

Well he's certainly one of the most imaginative, witty and funny sci-fi writers in many ppls opinion. The hitchikers guide isn't for everyone, I guess.

Re:The hitchhikers guide to the galaxy (1)

ComaVN (325750) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980580)

It's because they are *funny* (well, the first 3 are), which most other sci-fi books are not.

Then again, it's all a matter of taste I guess.

What I'm curious about is why you read 5 (or 6) books from a series you find boring.

Changing characters as Narnia series progresses? (1)

bartash (93498) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980494)

I wonder how the changing characters in Narnia will affect the franchise

All movie studios want to create a franchise. It enables them to make a boatload of money. People will go and see any old Batman crap they serve up because they're hoping that each will be as good as the first.

So one problem with the Narnia books is that there are different characters in the books as the series progresses.

Another problem to be smoothed over is the Christian allegory. Even as an 11 year old I found 'The Last battle' a bit hard to take.

Magician's Nephew (1)

Neon Spiral Injector (21234) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980497)

Isn't the Magician's Nephew the first book in the series?

Re:Magician's Nephew (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3980538)

Chronologically, yes. But the way they were written/published, LW&W was first.

Re:Magician's Nephew (2)

Skyfire (43587) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980554)

In the Narnia timeline, yes. In the order in which they were written, no. The first was the the Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe.

Re:Magician's Nephew (1)

Richard_at_work (517087) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980778)

Your point is? They wrote back to the future 2 first as well, i jsut dont think it would make any sense to have it as the first movie :)

Re:Magician's Nephew (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3980572)

Magician's Nephew is chronologically placed before the other books. It is kind of a prequel.

In america, in all of the printings i've seen, Magician's Nephew is the seventh book (out of eight in the series).

I am told, however, that in england, Magician's Nephew is printed/listed as the first book in the series.

Is this correct?

Re:Magician's Nephew (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3980602)

It depends on which version of the series you have.

Originally, like everyone else has mentioned, The Lion, the witch, and the wardrobe was the first, although not chronologically.

In more recent publications of the series, they for some (dumb) reason decided to order the series chronologically, instead of the orginal order. So in recently printed versions, The Magician's Nephew is book number one.

Confusing, eh?

D.A. (1)

crumbz (41803) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980499)

Just re-read The Hitchhikers Guide for the first time in about ten years. What a great book. Still had the ability to make me laugh. Especially after living through twenty years of Moore's Law, the face that the philosphers had to wait seven million years for the answer to the question had me rolling on the floor. Can't wait to pickup The Restaurant at the End of the Universe when I have a chance.

The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe (3, Insightful)

f00Dave (251755) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980500)

I'm betting that they're going to attempt a Harry Potter/LotR of this classic. And I'm also betting that if they don't get precisely the right people, it's going to tank. Hard. My bet's on the tanking.... ;-)

But anyway, it's sort of a shame to see the best literatre of my youth ("'The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe', 'Lord of the Rings', etcetera) turned into Hollywood extraveganzas. Where's the imagination? The visualization of the scenes and characters was, for me, the whole joy in those works? Perhaps it's just a sign of our times, that an active imagination is now considered to be a Bad Thing.

Admittedly, a fantastic job has been done with LotR, so I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Narnia (1)

tps12 (105590) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980503)

Ugh. Blatant attempt to capitalize on the "fantasy craze" supposedly signalled by the success of the Harry Potter franchise and the Lord of the Rings movies.

The fact of the matter is, fantasy hasn't been doing any better than usual, outside of these two series. And it's entirely due to the fact that the Harry Potter books were really, really good, and that the Fellowship of the Ring movie was also really, really good. These are not the "genre fans" who are eating it up, so anyone queueing up and the bandwagon stop should save their fare and start hiking.

Not to mention that Narnia is overrated, even when you're 12. Granted, I missed a lot of the Christian references, but I think that would have hurt it more than helped, anyway. The series is actually pretty cool, but The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe is especially silly, and doesn't exactly get people hooked on the series. And film and stage adaptations have been dependably terrible, so I'm not optimistic about this one.

Oh yeah a tps12 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3980550)

I am looking for gondrof stoned to use for wall paper. It is good news for linux that I can make background a stoned grondrof, he symbolizes Linux stranght unlike M$.


Greatest ever? (0)

huntz0r (580511) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980516)

I sincerely doubt that. I think that title goes to Issac Asimov.

Re:Greatest ever? (2)

Mt._Honkey (514673) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980678)

Asimov was a sci-fi comedy writer?

Bouncy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3980529)

Is it just me, or would anyone else like to take a trip down Beyonce Knowles dirt road? Man, I just wanna crawl all over her!

Narnia (5, Insightful)

Com2Kid (142006) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980535)

Great series of books, I read The Magicians Nephew and The Lion The Witch and The Wardrobe in second grade, excellent series. C.S. Lewis's science fiction books are also rather nice, though he has a rather nasty habit of starting a series well and then having each successive book get worse and worse (lucky if you can read through the third one. . . .) but it was years ago that I last read C. S. Lewis so my opinions may change should I read those books again.

Narnia has been banned from my local school district do to 'religious' content. Pisses me off, had it not been for Narnia there is a good chance that I would never have developed my love of reading. Liberals /can/ go to far at times. :

And what the hell is wrong with /books/ with religious content? Hell it is OK to read every body elses religiously derived fiction but just not Christian religiously derived fiction? It seems to me that if church and state are to be separate, then the state should not work their asses of concentrating on just isolating out any one particular religion! As it is the removal of Narnia was an obvious attempt at "see we are't being biased, look here, we are removing Christian inspired literature! Yeeesh. That IS called bias folks!!!

(By banned I mean it was banned from being read in the classroom as part of school work or assignments, students can still check them out from the Library of course, I mean they /are/ damn nearly classics and all. :-D )

I do think that some of C. S. Lewis's works should be mandatory reading though if just to show students that things do NOT have to be the way that they are. My word, people cannot even IMAGINE that schools used to not have as much fighting or sex in them! .... Ugh! People must be reminded that it IS possible to get through schooling without punching and fucking your way from one class to the next. :(

Re:Narnia (2, Interesting)

DaytonCIM (100144) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980584)

My Nephew spends six weeks every Summer with his Father and Step-Mother in Florida. Last Summer, his Step-Mother took him and his 3 Step-Brothers to the local bookstore and waited outside for 3 hours in order to buy Harry Potter books.

My Nephew said the whole family read after Dinner.

Then, he arrives this Summer and finds out that his Father's church has recently banned the book and now he and his Step-Borthers are forbidden from reading it, watching the movie, or discussing the story.

My 9 year-old Nephew's comment: "What's different between this Summer and last?"


Re:Narnia (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3980729)

Hey, if it was fun it must be the work of the Devil. Jesus said so!

Re:Narnia (2)

Silverhammer (13644) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980656)

Liberals /can/ go too far at times.

Why is that such a revelation?

Narnia (1)

CaffeineAddict2001 (518485) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980544)

The BBC already made all of these books into VERY HORRIBLE AWFUL made for TV movies. If you thought they butched HHGTTG, wait til you see this! PLEASE, JUST LEAVE BOOKS ALONE! *cries*

Re:Narnia (2)

jonathanjo (415010) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980752)

The BBC already made all of these books into VERY HORRIBLE AWFUL made for TV movies. If you thought they butched HHGTTG, wait til you see this! PLEASE, JUST LEAVE BOOKS ALONE! *cries*

Ah, but Tom Baker as Puddleglum the moribund Marshwiggle was alone worth the price of admission!

Adams (5, Insightful)

Skyshadow (508) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980551)

When I read (on /.) that Adams had died, I pulled my leather-bound copy of Hitchhiker down off the shelf, flipped to a random page and started reading.

I happened to open to the bit where they go to see God's final message to his creation. I'm not normally a very emotional person, but when I was reading that I cried like a little kid. For a geek like me, Adams was my John Lennon -- hearing that there just wasn't going to be anymore stories made the world seem gray.

I wonder if the book made up from his notes is worthwhile, or if it'll just seem.. I dunno... wrong.

Re:Adams (1)

kingkade (584184) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980611)

Yes, it sounds a bit selfish but, its sad that we can never hear a story from Zaphod, Arthur Dent, or that poor reincarnated creature thingy that Arthur kept on killing in every incarnation :)
I've seen writers try to imitate his style but rarely get the same laugh.
"Sorry For The Inconvienice".

special effects in Narnia (1)

pretzel_logic (576231) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980556)

I cant wait to read the stories of how the designers used 20,000 linux servers to render the magical world. I hope they do a good job on it.
I remember reading those books in 5th grade. Its about time they got more mainstream attention. The imagination that develops when children read this type of story is like no other.
So whos gonna make the follow-up video game anyways...

Trailer review (1)

briggsb (217215) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980566)

Here's a trailer review [] of the trailer for Signs they talk about in the NYT article.

There already was a (1)

Stinson (564450) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980568)

there already was a 'lion, witch and the wardrobe' movie...i got it here at home (although i havent watched it in like 10 years)

Aslan (2, Funny)

Skyfire (43587) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980582)

Heh, they should get Sean Connery to be the voice of Aslan. That would rock

Re:Aslan (1)

dejaffa (12279) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980655)

Or James Earl Jones -- the deepness of that voice would be even better, IMHO. YMMV.

Re:Aslan (1)

nojomofo (123944) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980686)

I was thinking James Earl Jones.

Re:Aslan (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3980705)

Darth Vader as Aslan.

"You are all my son."

Re:Aslan (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3980738)

Not as much as James Earl Jones.

From Vadar to Aslan on 15 years... fitting, especially given the story behind the story line...

Who should play the white witch?
Glenn Close? Candice Burgin (sp?) Cameran Diaz? Ruth Buzzy might be booked, but that alone shouldn't stop anyone from inviting her to the auditions...

Niel Gaiman is the bomb (1)

Dark Paladin (116525) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980591)

I've loved his works (I have yet to read his latest, but Good Omens, Neverwhare, Stardust, American Gods, and other hardcover Japanese fable are amazing), his work on the Mononoke script was well done. He has the ability to weave in the extraordinary into the mundane, and make it seem all the more plausible. (Well, that and Pestilence replaced by Pollution just makes me chuckle - see Good Omens.)

I'd watch the documentary just to see what he comes up with for that one.

Re:Niel Gaiman is the bomb (2)

Skyshadow (508) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980651)

Disclaimer: I'm a huge Gaiman fan. Don't flame me.

I think that Neil Gaimen works best in short stories (I associate graphic novels with short stories, when you think of the length of the average narrative). In books, I think the quality of his writing falls off tremendously.

American Gods, while by far his best book (I grew up in Madison and have been to the House on the Rock maybe ten times, so that bit was just crazy) was still nowhere near the level of some of his short story work. My personal favories are Murder Mysteries and The Price, and I think they illustrate his range.

Re:Niel Gaiman is the bomb (1)

Dark Paladin (116525) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980673)

No flamage at all - we're all allowed to like/dislike different things. Take me and Sandman - I think it's interesting, but I find his written work to be far more enjoyable. (Maybe because I'm not too visual, or because I haven't sat down with the entire series at once or something.)

Hitchhikers movie... (1)

TibbonZero (571809) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980604)

Who else things that they should have the Hitchhiker's Trilogy Movies (yea 5 movies in a Trillogy would really screw up most people). I think it would be really sucessful, and alot easier to do than LoTR was. It's not quite as complex, or long, easier to condense too...

Re:Hitchhikers movie... (1)

kalidasa (577403) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980763)

Who else things that they should have the Hitchhiker's Trilogy Movies (yea 5 movies in a Trillogy would really screw up most people). I think it would be really sucessful, and alot easier to do than LoTR was. It's not quite as complex, or long, easier to condense too...

Oh my. The answer is . . . Douglas Adams did, for one. He wrote what is reportedly a pretty good script for HHGTTG for Disney, which was concerned about the lack of an obvious hero (his workaround for this is hilarious: -paraphrase-well, for we English, just surviving in absurd bizzare circumstances IS herois-endparaphrase; another studio was concerned that sf comedy was not a genre with much of a track record (then Men In Black came out . . .).

As for it not being as complex, well, no, but it's complex enough to be a problem - and there's the whole "how do you actually depict a guy with three arms and two heads?" problem, and the whole issue of how one gets across the narrative bits properly (take a look at the two putrid versions of Dune for examples of how difficult characters' thought processes are to get into a movie in a way that works; for the narration - the stuff that BBC gave to "the Book" the problem would be the same).

And is it really easier to condense? The whole thing is about tone, and someone somewhere will complain about the loss of Bowagger the Infinitely Prolonged, or the dog swallowing the massive alien invasion army launched by Arthur Dent's complaints about not being able to get his lifestyle in order, or complain if the young woman in the cafe at the opening of HHGTTG isn't the same actress in the same pose as the one who plays Fenchurch at the start of the fourth movie.

Wrong Guy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3980615)

Heh...Love that Dilbert character.

Chronicles of Narnia / Potter (2, Interesting)

PK_ERTW (538588) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980621)

Just a comment really... The Narnia books were some of my favorites as a child. I also remember rushing home to watch the (somewhat brutal) live TV show that told the stories. I would look forward to a good movie based on them.

My real point of this post is I often comment that I think Harry Potter really isn't that different from the Narnia books. I think the success is just a product of modern marketing on something of quality. If C. S. Lewis was writing now, I think we would see the series become a wild success, just like Potter.

I am not really commenting on the quality of the movie, more the books. The movie was alright, and it did stay true to the story, but it was not a classic or anything. I think the C. S. Lewis books would be the same way if they were coming out now. Great books, enjoyed and loved by poeple around the world, but they would also become a piece of pop culture. 1000's of toys and games, movies, etc. of varying quality would come of them.

Re:Chronicles of Narnia / Potter (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3980734)

If C. S. Lewis was writing now, I think we would see the series become a wild success, just like Potter.

If C.S. Lewis was writing now, it would be a miracle, because he's been dead since 1963 :o)

Narnia movies? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3980626)

Weren't there already a bunch of animated narnia movies? I remember seeing "Prince Caspian" in Blockbuster the other day.

Has anyone seen these, are they of any worth whatsoever?

All the narnia-related stuff listed on the IMDB seems to be made-for-tv..

Problem with publishers Rant. (5, Interesting)

teamhasnoi (554944) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980629)

Whoever here has read the Books of Narnia may be interested to know that the publishers in their 'infinite wisdom' :P have rearranged the series so "The Magican's Nephew" is the first book in the series. This is very annoying. Yes, I know that you can just read them in the original order, however, new readers of the series are denied CS Lewis's original vision through ignorance of the change. I fear this change will make it to the movie (plus a ton of Harry Potter-esqe BS that is incongruous with the story).

The series should stay the way it was written, not re-ordered [] by a focus group and committee. This is what leads to mediocre films, books, and music.

See also: Ren and Stimpy, The Simpsons, NSYNC & Britney (and their ilk), Dr. Pepper Red Fusion, New Coke, any Disney anything, Windows ME, ect.

I know repackaging "content" and the like is a fine way to make an extra buck when the bottom line needs a push and nobody wants to take a chance, but just leave it alone already!

Re:Problem with publishers Rant. (1)

Richard_at_work (517087) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980745)

the publishers in their 'infinite wisdom' :P have rearranged the series so "The Magican's Nephew" is the first book in the series.

Erm, i dunno when u mean they did this, but in the collection i have always read, The Magicians Nephew has always been the first book (and this is going back 15 years). So unless it wasnt done recently, ill say the order i read them in made perfect sense, as the nephew turns out to be the old man who owns the wardrobe.

Tom Baker (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3980659)

My favorite movie version of "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe" will always be the one with Tom Baker.

Slashdot NYTimes reg (1)

harborpirate (267124) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980666)

Would someone please reply with the slashdot username and password for NY Times?


Re:Slashdot NYTimes reg (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3980770)


Please do the first one!! (1)

Richard_at_work (517087) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980694)

Why oh why do they always do "The lion, witch and wardrobe" first??? Why cant someone do the first one and show that theres more to narnia than that world. The Magicians Nephew adds a whole lot of back story to narnia, and shows just WHY theres a lampost in the middle of a forest :)

As a kid, i really enjoyed the books, and the BBC films, although dreadful now, were jsut right for a 10 yearold. Unfortunatly they seemed to be a bit selective as to which ones they chose, leaving out the first book and the last book. Both of these books are brilliant, SO PLEASE DO THEM!!!!!!!!!!!

Narnia (1)

chrisseaton (573490) | more than 12 years ago | (#3980700)

I hope they do the Narnia books in order, and they had better be as good as the BBC productions that they used to show before Christmas here in the the UK. They were really great, watching them in front of a real fire with my family when the weather was getting colder outside. Makes me feel all christmassy inside :)
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