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In Print: MegaTokyo

chrisd posted more than 11 years ago | from the trade-in-your-return-ticket dept.

Announcements 193

MartyJG writes "Freg Gallagher certainly has a talent for announcing things with a maximum of words - the summary of his latest rant on Megatokyo however, is that his webcomic is about to get a dead-tree hardcopy version produced by some nice people at Studio Ironcat. The first volume is going to be 120 pages, with additional off-line-only content. The announcement also includes a new webserver on order, and new merchandise soon to be available with the help of ThinkGeek. All the background on the announcement is in the current MT Piro rant and their very official-looking Press Release."

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FP (-1, Offtopic)

Critical_ (25211) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006354)

First P0st!!!!

Just Kidding... here is my comment... (1)

Critical_ (25211) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006368)

I just had to be a lamer just once. As for web comics, I am a huge fan. Not having access to dead-tree newspapers is often a problem in college. I regularly download and save such comics for adding to my collection. I'll be the buying myself the hardcopy version as soon as funds allow it.

Webcomics suck without exception (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4006355)

Except for Space Moose [] , that is.

You suck without exception (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4006607)

MegaTokyo Rocks!!!!!!!!!!!

second post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4006359)

second post oink oink moo moo, its the lameless filter...

Re:second post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4006374)

ok, third post, I cant count...
so what?

Karma Burn... (-1, Troll)

stikves (127823) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006362)

Sorry I am MegaTokyo fan, but What does MegaTokyo have to do with SlashDot?

I know: because they are "sister" sites. But it does not look like "news for the nerds".

Sorry for interrupting...

Re:Karma Burn... (1)

AlaskanUnderachiever (561294) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006386)

Don't you know? Haven't you seen the banners? Through the mastery of BannerAdTech (r) I will now forever associate ThinkGeek, SourceForge, and Megatokyo with Slashdot. . . JOIN US. . .

Re:Karma Burn... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4006422)

You're right. Anime, webcomics, and video games have nothing to do with nerds. You've been sold down the river. There's the door.

Re:Karma Burn... (2)

zaren (204877) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006431)

Well, beyond Megatokyo being in heavy rotation in the banner ads...

Re:Karma Burn... (2, Insightful)

Cid Highwind (9258) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006475)

But it does not look like "news for the nerds".

I disagree. It may not be "news for linux geeks", but most of Megatokyo's fans are nerds. Thus, news regarding Megatokyo is "news for nerds".

Re:Karma Burn... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4006713)

however, it does not fucking matter, not one bit.

Lame (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4006363)

Nobody except Rob and about 3 other faggotty, childish, virginal geeks gives a rats fucking ass about anime. LAME!

Re:Lame (1)

hackwrench (573697) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006482)

My name is Robert Claypool and I care about anime.
My address is:
417 S. Manning
Munice IN.
I await your judgment.

Re:Lame (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4006507)

mod me down. been using tt again. dammit!

Re:Lame (1)

JPriest (547211) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006542)

And I didn't thin _anyone_ really liked those C.O.D. Elvis Presley plates you always see in TV guide.

Why FreeBSD is dying -- the true story (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4006367)

The End of FreeBSD

[ed. note: in the following text, former FreeBSD developer Mike Smith gives his reasons for abandoning FreeBSD]

When I stood for election to the FreeBSD core team nearly two years ago, many of you will recall that it was after a long series of debates during which I maintained that too much organisation, too many rules and too much formality would be a bad thing for the project.

Today, as I read the latest discussions on the future of the FreeBSD project, I see the same problem; a few new faces and many of the old going over the same tired arguments and suggesting variations on the same worthless schemes. Frankly I'm sick of it.

FreeBSD used to be fun. It used to be about doing things the right way. It used to be something that you could sink your teeth into when the mundane chores of programming for a living got you down. It was something cool and exciting; a way to spend your spare time on an endeavour you loved that was at the same time wholesome and worthwhile.

It's not anymore. It's about bylaws and committees and reports and milestones, telling others what to do and doing what you're told. It's about who can rant the longest or shout the loudest or mislead the most people into a bloc in order to legitimise doing what they think is best. Individuals notwithstanding, the project as a whole has lost track of where it's going, and has instead become obsessed with process and mechanics.

So I'm leaving core. I don't want to feel like I should be "doing something" about a project that has lost interest in having something done for it. I don't have the energy to fight what has clearly become a losing battle; I have a life to live and a job to keep, and I won't achieve any of the goals I personally consider worthwhile if I remain obligated to care for the project.


I'm sure that I've offended some people already; I'm sure that by the time I'm done here, I'll have offended more. If you feel a need to play to the crowd in your replies rather than make a sincere effort to address the problems I'm discussing here, please do us the courtesy of playing your politics openly.

From a technical perspective, the project faces a set of challenges that significantly outstrips our ability to deliver. Some of the resources that we need to address these challenges are tied up in the fruitless metadiscussions that have raged since we made the mistake of electing officers. Others have left in disgust, or been driven out by the culture of abuse and distraction that has grown up since then. More may well remain available to recruitment, but while the project is busy infighting our chances for successful outreach are sorely diminished.

There's no simple solution to this. For the project to move forward, one or the other of the warring philosophies must win out; either the project returns to its laid-back roots and gets on with the work, or it transforms into a super-organised engineering project and executes a brilliant plan to deliver what, ultimately, we all know we want.

Whatever path is chosen, whatever balance is struck, the choosing and the striking are the important parts. The current indecision and endless conflict are incompatible with any sort of progress.

Trying to dissect the above is far beyond the scope of any parting shot, no matter how distended. All I can really ask of you all is to let go of the minutiae for a moment and take a look at the big picture. What is the ultimate goal here? How can we get there with as little overhead as possible? How would you like to be treated by your fellow travellers?


To the Slashdot "BSD is dying" crowd - big deal. Death is part of the cycle; take a look at your soft, pallid bodies and consider that right this very moment, parts of you are dying. See? It's not so bad.

To the bulk of the FreeBSD committerbase and the developer community at large - keep your eyes on the real goals. It's when you get distracted by the politickers that they sideline you. The tireless work that you perform keeping the system clean and building is what provides the platform for the obsessives and the prima donnas to have their moments in the sun. In the end, we need you all; in order to go forwards we must first avoid going backwards.

To the paranoid conspiracy theorists - yes, I work for Apple too. No, my resignation wasn't on Steve's direct orders, or in any way related to work I'm doing, may do, may not do, or indeed what was in the tea I had at lunchtime today. It's about real problems that the project faces, real problems that the project has brought upon itself. You can't escape them by inventing excuses about outside influence, the problem stems from within.

To the politically obsessed - give it a break, if you can. No, the project isn't a lemonade stand anymore, but it's not a world-spanning corporate juggernaut either and some of the more grandiose visions going around are in need of a solid dose of reality. Keep it simple, stupid.

To the grandstanders, the prima donnas, and anyone that thinks that they can hold the project to ransom for their own agenda - give it a break, if you can. When the current core were elected, we took a conscious stand against vigorous sanctions, and some of you have exploited that. A new core is going to have to decide whether to repeat this mistake or get tough. I hope they learn from our errors.


I started work on FreeBSD because it was fun. If I'm going to continue, it has to be fun again. There are things I still feel obligated to do, and with any luck I'll find the time to meet those obligations.

However I don't feel an obligation to get involved in the political mess the project is in right now. I tried, I burnt out. I don't feel that my efforts were worthwhile. So I won't be standing for election, I won't be shouting from the sidelines, and I probably won't vote in the next round of ballots.

You could say I'm packing up my toys. I'm not going home just yet, but I'm not going to play unless you can work out how to make the project somewhere fun to be again.

= Mike


To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. -- Theodore Roosevelt

So, you saw... (1)

stimpy (11763) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006378)

the part about the new web server, and had to give them a reason for it?

Re:So, you saw... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4006497)

ba hahahahah haa AHAHAHHAHAH

oh wait,
thats, retarded

Freg Gallagher: Talented Artist, No Story Skillz (1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4006384)

Sorry, I don't mean this to come off as a flame, and I do love his artistic skills, but Gallagher cannot tell a story to save his life. Sure, he has his "Dead Piro" days, which, contrary to others, I love since it gives us a chance to see he scribbles. That is not my issue, though. For the time that the comic has been up (which has been something like over a year), Piro and Largo have managed to get stuck in Japan, get an apartment, and get a job. THAT IS IT! Please, if you are reading this Fred, dude, PICK UP THE PACE A LITTLE. It wouldn't be such an issue if the background story didn't have so much potential. Sorry, but I have to pass on the first book. Lots of pretty pictures, but no substance....

Faster story pace is not always better. (1)

PsychoKick (97013) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006847)

Frankly, I LIKE the slower, meandering pace. I dislike comics that stuff each panel to the gills with exposition and word ballons, that insist on rushing the reader from one scene to another before they can properly enjoy it. Fred is basing his work on the Japanese manga style, and manga is generally slower paced and more visual than American comics anyway.

Re:Freg Gallagher: Talented Artist, No Story Skill (2)

JamesKPolk (13313) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006848)

Try reading it more often. The story picked up pace a *lot* right around the time Fred announced he'd be doing the comic solo.

And in particular, Largo was morphed from a drunk weirdo back into an articulate, interesting character (with a cool thing!) that actually speaks to the other people around.

I look forward to buying lots of Megatokyo in print.

Megatokyo rant summary (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4006402)

The following summary of pretty much every Megatokyo rant is courtesy of exploitation now [] :

"Blah blah overworked blah blah couldn't get comic done blah I'm a terrible artist blah blah *whine* blah blah some damn new anime meant for twelve year old Japanese girls blah blah dating sim blah blah respecting my character's privacy blah blah- *Urk!*"

I guess that explains something (2, Interesting)

jred (111898) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006404)

I've been a Megatokyo fan for a bit, but here lately I've been seriously considering deleting the bookmark. I mean, I understand having a life other than the comic. I can handle the occasional DPD (dead piro day), or even DPW. But the comic seriously has not moved plotwise in months. It's gotten to the point of being ridiculous. Anyway, I guess that's what's been taking all his time away from the webcomic, he's been working on the dead-tree comic. More power to him. I won't follow along, though. I'll be reading Exploitation Now [] ...

Re:I guess that explains something (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4006462)

(sarcasm)Oh yeah, 'cus E.N. gets updated every day without fail. (/sarcasm)

Re:I guess that explains something (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4006503)

I've never understood the point of comics that feature a lack of any discernable plot and just aren't funny. You can do one or both, but not neither. What a waste of time.

Re:I guess that explains something (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4006854)

Considering Peanuts, Family Circus, This Modern World and Dilbert, the point is to get syndicated in major newspapers.

Re:I guess that explains something (4, Insightful)

cjpez (148000) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006535)

Hm, well I'll disagree here, 'cause I think the plot's been moving along rather nicely as of late. Sure, last week was kind of a wash because he spent most of it preparing for / recovering from Otakon (or however that's spelled), and it's not like the occaional DPD or SGD strip is too painful. If it really does piss you off enough, why don't you just try out dailystrips [] , a wicked-cool perl script which'll go out and download all your favorite strips and present 'em all on a single HTML page for you. I read about twenty strips and it only takes me a minute or two each morning to go through 'em, because I only have to click on one link. And since it's Perl, it'll even run on those heathen Operating Systems out there. :)

Re:I guess that explains something (1)

Joe Tie. (567096) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006579)

What I've done is just move to checking it every couple of months, and found the comic much more enjoyable that way. I'm not sure when the comic hit mass and reached the progression level of Dark Shadows for me. Eventually though, week after week then month after month of things like the possibly vampire girl made reading the comic weekly more frustrating than enjoyable.

I really like the idea of having this available in a collected paper version. That way people who enjoy slow progression can get their fix online, and easily frustrated people like myself can avoid it compleatly and simply buy the collected works.

Dreaming Away. (2)

The_Shadows (255371) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006617)

You mean you'll be reading Exploitation Now for a few more weeks or months, right? I mean, you can't be reading it for much longer. It's dying. Not in a bad way, but the fact is that as we're Dreaming Away in Act 4, Poe is Ending It All.

I, personally, have been reading EN since practically the beginning. It's been impressive to see Poe's style evolve, along with the EN characters and storyline. I was actually saddened by ****'s (in case anyone decides to start reading, I won't spoil it for ya) murder last week. I know that I'll be sad to see EN go, but Poe is, so far, doing an excellent job at bringing about the end.

I'll be one of the first to visit his new comic, Errant Story (domain already registered), when EN ends. I really hope that Poe puts all of EN into a book when the series ends. I'd be more than willing to lay down $20-$25 for a hardbacked EN collection.

More OnTopic, Congrats to Piro. I'll be buying a MT book when it's released. I certainly can't complain about the $8.95 price. I still want Gabe and Tycho to make a PA Year Two book. While MT is decidedly excellent PA is, IMHO, the best web comic out there.

Re:Dreaming Away. (2, Informative)

neuromortis (161690) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006731)

No offense, but if you think PA is the best web comic out there you need to look around a bit. The art is good, but the jokes are usually pretty flat. Most of the humor comes from the rants. "Real Life", "Mac Hall", "It's Walky". . .they all top PA in jokes, and "It's Walky" and "Mac Hall" -- especially "Mac Hall" -- surpass it in art. (Though "Mac Hall" only updates twice a week.)

Re:Dreaming Away. (2)

The_Shadows (255371) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006858)

Affirmative. I enjoy all three, as a matter of fact (and read too damn many others:). Real Life is very solid, the humor is wonderful. Greg's art style is Adobe Illustrator, and it's not amazing, but it get's the job done and is enjoyable. I'd like to see the occasional hand though.:) I think it's right up there with PA, and would love a RL book. It's Walky is great, but I don't care as much for Willis' art style as I do Gabe's. *shrugs*

Mac Hall, OTOH, I agree, is better in both art and humor, but I was put off on it for a long time this year when it was updated once a week at best. I think it's great and all, and I appreciate all Ian does for it, but part of what I appreciate about PA is that without fail on MWF I get a new PA. I know Ian has the same problems that the rest of us do (like work and classes getting in the way), and I respect that, and I hope he can keep his new schedule into the next school year.

And who said we don't count rants for humor? :-)

I almost always save PA for last when I read comics (and follow the link off RL), because they both almost always brighten my day. Lately, I'm saving Exploitation Now for last, since it is wraping up and, as I said before, Poe is doing a spectacular job.

Anyway, that's just my opinion(TM). You're entitled to your own, unless you live in China. Then you're part of the hive-mind. :)


Re:I guess that explains something (2)

mstyne (133363) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006671)

I have to agree. I was an MT devotee for a while, but got tired of no new material. I realize I wasn't paying for it, didn't buy an t-shirts or anything... but I started reading MT because it was funny/interesting/fresh .. a few weeks of sketches and no story was enough to make me decide I wasn't into it. Penny Arcade on the other hand...

Re:I guess that explains something (2)

Lord Omlette (124579) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006785)

The ridiculous number of webcomics that miss their published schedule and make no attempt to make up for it YET still ask for donations reminds me alot of Dragon Tails [] which, I believe, hasn't missed an update (daily) in 3 years, and regularly (maybe once a month?) provides slashdot inspired jokes.

l33t (1)

Jotham (89116) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006410)

ah they would get slashdotted during a filler comic. Here's one of my favorites that the slashdot crowd should appreciate
#9 - speak l33t []

Re:l33t (1)

JPriest (547211) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006520)

Did you know Google has a l337 H4x0r [] language for it's search engine?

Re:l33t (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4006701)

congratulations, you're an idiot

and yes, we did know

If you lik (2, Informative)

kormoc (122955) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006421)

If you like megatokyo, give these other comics a try. Feel free to add others
GPF []
PvP []
Real Life []
RPGWorld []

Re:If you lik (1)

neuromortis (161690) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006754)

It's Walky -
FOG Club Adventure -
Sinfest -
Ozy and Millie -
Chopping Block -
Diesel Sweeties -
Help Desk -
Nukees -
Mac Hall -

One thing to remember about webcomics however is that it's often helpful to read them from the beginning. Since they aren't constrained by the paper they can afford to not do one-shots every day. Luckily most of them haven't been around for more than a year or three.

Cool (2)

Com2Kid (142006) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006442)

I remember when Megatokyo was first opening, and I still on occasion listen to Kim Justice []

I have not read the comic in around a year, (I left off in the point where the dude was just starting to working in the store as a mascot) but from what I remember it was Kick Ass. :-D Just got bored waiting for the story line to come along, heh, I gotta check it out again one of these days before it goes ^_^

Sweet! (1)

Link-chan (566296) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006444)

I'm definitely getting the book when it comes out! I like Megatokyo very much.

Dead trees? (3, Insightful)

evilviper (135110) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006449)

a dead-tree hardcopy version
Just once, just once I'd like to see a live tree hardcopy version of something.

Re:Dead trees? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4006537)

Just once, just once I'd like to see a live tree hardcopy version of something.

Enjoy! []

Re:Dead trees? (1)

Kobal (597997) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006724)

Actually, with all this recycling, it's more and more dead toilet paper.

this is frontpage /. news? (2, Insightful)

Dynedain (141758) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006452)

Ok, does Megatokyo have that large of a following here @ /. ??

Because amongst other webcomics:
Goats [] Is currently at Comicon putting out a second book.
Achewood [] is finishing up the polishing touches on a book.
Cat and Girl [] has a book going out.
As do [] a whole [] slew [] of others [] . Why don't they get mentioned??

Re:this is frontpage /. news? (2, Insightful)

Com2Kid (142006) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006465)

I have heard of Penny Arcade and PvPonline;

Neither of which is nearly as adorable as MegaTokyo has been at times, nor nearly as empathetic to Nerds as a whole. I mean sure Penny Arcade is kick ass in a "Well FUCK them all!" kind of a way, but MegaTokyo captures the whole entire "Well gee that sucks" aspect of being a Nerd.

Re:this is frontpage /. news? (1)

JPriest (547211) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006534)

Com2Kid has posted 1413 comments.

You really don't get out much do you?

Re:this is frontpage /. news? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4006631)

Listen to you, you fucking Cockmonger.. 326 comments, lifeless fuck. Why don't you go eat some more pudding you fatass drug addict?

Re:this is frontpage /. news? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4006758)

fucking Cockmonger
not sure what that is, but I *do* hope it's better than being an asshat.
fatass drug addict
very wrong on both
326 comments, lifeless fuck.
here you make a point, I'm off to eat pudding in search of a life :P

Re:this is frontpage /. news? (1)

NeMon'ess (160583) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006753)

You've got to be kidding. com2kid's id number is about 150,000 which means its at least three years old. I have 331 comments over three years. You have that many in six months.

Re:this is frontpage /. news? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4006770)

Actually, counting comments made as AC I am probably much closer to 500 or so....

Re:this is frontpage /. news? (1)

Com2Kid (142006) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006799)

You've got to be kidding. com2kid's id number is about 150,000 which means its at least three years old.

I came aboard /. about the time Katz was rounding up his Hellmouth series, third or so episode.

Re:this is frontpage /. news? (1)

Com2Kid (142006) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006781)

? You mean besides biking ~6mi a day walking ~2-3 miles, spending at least 5-6 hours in one of the local forest reserves a week, going to college and working a job?

Nope, don't get out much.

I do type fast though. :-D

Re:this is frontpage /. news? (1)

BJH (11355) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006789)

You : UID 547211 / 326 comments.
Me : UID 11355 / 1075 comments.

Considering I've been reading /. since before there was any such thing as UIDs, I'd say you're the one who needs to get a life...

Re:this is frontpage /. news? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4006817)

Considering I've been reading /. since before there was any such thing as UIDs, I'd say you're the one who needs to get a life...

I thought that portion of your comment was worthy of a second posting lol.

Re:this is frontpage /. news? (1)

BJH (11355) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006835)

Heh.... yeah, I guess that could be ironic.
I would like to mention that, even though I've been here for some number of years, I do actually still have something that could be called a life.

Re:this is frontpage /. news? (1)

cpt kangarooski (3773) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006867)

I remember that. In fact, I only finally registered an account on the day when it was no longer possible to post without an account. But I'd been reading since before there were accounts at all. Gosh, it's hard to remember /. back in the days when people just typed in whatever handle they liked into the blank for it.

Altus, who has an account somewhere in the 1000's IIRC was rooming with me at approximately the same time to give an indication of when we were reading here. (having been turned on to the site by the then-somewhat more accurate MacOS Rumors site)

Oh well. Now there'll probably be a Chips 'N Dips era reader chiming in.

Re:this is frontpage /. news? (1)

BJH (11355) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006881) was no longer possible to post without an account.

I guess you mean, 'when it was no longer possible to post without an account, unless you wanted to post as an AC', but yeah. I chose to post as an AC for a while, and then caved in like the spineless weakling that I am.

Help me to remember... when did CT and Hemos get their photos in Wired?

Re:this is frontpage /. news? (1)

limbostar (116177) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006590)

The Diesel Sweeties book (along with the second ExplodingDog book) is really just a pamphlet. Seriously, it's only 16 pages, 8 sheets stapled together. It's extremely professionally printed, but calling it a book is a bit much.

I really like Diesel Sweeties (I did buy the book after all), but when I think 'book' I think of something that wouldn't flutter in the breeze and has a spine with the title printed on it. The Diesel Sweeties thing is more like a CD insert.

The first ExplodingDog book was actually a book, and it's really nice. I highly recommend it to anyone who likes ExplodingDog. Hopefully rstevens will make a second book that's more expansive than the first.

Re:this is frontpage /. news? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4006717)

You forgot the one little part at the end of the announcement, that they're moving their shirt and merchandise sales from CafePress (which pretty much made that business) over to ThinkGeek (owned by OSDN, owners of Slashdot).

So the announcement to /. fans was a marketing move, of course, hidden as a comic announcement.

Ahh, Megatokyo (-1, Flamebait)

Vidmaster_Steve (455301) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006459)

Ahh sweet sweet Megatokyo... the BESTEST COMIC ONLINE! HA! My god I crack me up. MT has become somewhat of an internet counterculture icon in its few years in publication. I don't know a single member of our small counterculture revolution that can STAND Piro's whiny DOOD THIS IS MY TOKYO, GET USED TO IT stance on his little webcomic. Yeah yeah yeah HIS webcomic. Big deal. He's got a fucking webcomic and a smattering of "talent" this makes him one of the most beloved icons in the "webcomics scene" as it were?

Now, remember, this is the same scene that elevated the 8BT guy, a person who is PROFITING on ANTOTHER COMPANY'S IP, to godhood.

Back in the early days of webcomicing, there was some integrity and actual wit and originality. Now everything's degraded to crap like User Friendly, Megatokyo and 8BT. I don't understand WHY this utter shit is so BELOVED when there are real, good comics out there that are actually DESERVING of high praise and love from the community (ie: Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal, Pentasmal and Anime Moments in History), usually due to the FUNNY that they contain. Aw fuck it, you retards are going to mod me into oblivion and right now, baby the whisky is doing the talking, not me. If you've a problem with it, I'll KILL YOU AT OTACON (if you don't get THAT then you're similarly as worthless as the dork who does Megatokyo. No fucking wonder "Largo" left in disgust and rants long windedly at how gay "Piro" is and how god damned preachy and utterly faggy that MT has become homph glomph like an octopus at the boner buffet).

In closing, Die Megatokyo die, you are not the pinnacle of webcomics like you think you are.

Re:Ahh, Megatokyo (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4006519)

It's almost as if I note a hint of jealousy or bitterness. Nah, couldn't be.

Re:Ahh, Megatokyo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4006613)

8BT is a PARODY. Nor is he "profiting" from it either.

You might as well cry foul on Mel Brooks.

Two thoughts on this (1)

grungebox (578982) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006490)

First, I do commend Mr. Gallagher for trying (and perhaps successfully)making Megatokyo a profitable comic. Profit-making webcomics are VERY few and far between. The only other ones I can think of are (correct me if I'm wrong): Penny Arcade []
PVP []
and possibly 8-bit Theatre []
Numerous comics have print versions out, though. Aside from PVP and Penny Arcade above, GPF [] and I think Diesel Sweeties [] both have offline versions. So I ought congratulate Megatokyo.

Secondly, I thought I could add to the list of worthwhile webcomics to read:
Penny Arcade (above)
Res Life []
Mac Hall []
Angst Technology []
Zeek V2.0 []
I'll avoid the urge to shamelessly promote my own new comic :)

Re:Two thoughts on this (1)

Tralfamadorian (115732) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006648)

I'll avoid the urge to shamelessly promote my own new comic :)

What's the URL?

Re:Two thoughts on this (2)

elmegil (12001) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006876)

Everyone seems to be missing:

Bruno [] and Sexy Losers [] (talk about opposites) and User Friendly [] . Bruno in particular has several "dead trees" editions available at the moody cow cafe (link on page), and definitely tells a story better paced than MT (not to diss Piro too much, I like MT just fine). Chris Baldwin is a hella nice guy to boot.

why complain? comic is free + cool! =) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4006493)

this comic rocks. it is FREE and it is cool. I sure will be buying the book. Call me a mark, whatever. He makes a cool comic. I like to read it.

Here's something more in line with (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4006499)

/.'s sexuality.

How about some well hung cat-man/demon porn [] ?

Not front page worthy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4006525)

I like megatokyo, but the long winded rants of Piro are not worth the time. Slashdot, if you want to gain notary as a real news source, then stop patting your friends on the back.

Its disappointing because this is such a blatient example of indirect advertising.

Re:Not front page worthy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4006530)

Why would Slashdot need a notary? Sure, they're fun for signing wills and deeds and stuff, they're good to have around when buying a house.

Maybe you meant notoriety?

Megatokyo? Nah.... (2, Insightful)

Dark Lord Seth (584963) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006533)

I loved MT for ages, but recently it all went to hell IMHO when the "storyline" got too drawn out and some comics (those things between the "Dead Piro Days") weren't even funny, just part of a (boring) storyline which is the main storyline in any "respected" soap series on TV, namely; "Does she love me/Will I be able to bone her eventually?". It gets old and tiring up to the point where even Largo isn't funny anymore. He's been ranting about zombies for month now in-comic and really, isn't it time for a change and go back to the small stories that actually oozed wit and humour?

Sadly, I have seen this happening to other comics as well. Anyone remember GPF? (The comic, that is. Put down that Windows developer right now before you break something!) It used to be funny, I read it all the way from the start to the end and then religious started following it because it too had loads of simple jokes. Look [] at it right now, it's nothing but pure and utter online filth that ended up in a overdrawn B-moviesque storyline. And I'm not even going to mention the total irrelevance of MT to Slashdot or question why it ended up on the front page.

And this is a call to comic artists: Notice the ARTIST bit. It means you can draw better then most of us, it doesn't mean that you can also think up of a decent storyline. Don't get illusions of grandeur, fooling yourself that you're capable of writing a novel in comic form. Thank you.

Steps of his soapbox...

Re:Megatokyo? Nah.... (1)

Dark Lord Seth (584963) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006544)

It might seem odd to reply to myself. Hell, it IS odd, but the first thing I saw after posting my comment is.... A Megatokyo advertisement/banner. This is a slight bit suspiscious to me. Someone been "donating" money to something perhaps or should I quit my fascination with conspiracies?

Re:Megatokyo? Nah.... (5, Insightful)

The Raven (30575) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006578)

You said:
just part of a (boring) storyline which is the main storyline in any "respected" soap series on TV, namely; "Does she love me/Will I be able to bone her eventually?".
Well, you're free to have that opinion. However, I would like to point out that Piro, and hence the storyline, are heavily influenced by Shoujo (sp!?) manga... ie, japanese girly comics. Like Love Hina. Which have plots VERY like Megatokyo. I happen to think they're cool... you don't. That's nice.

But don't act all surprised about it... it's normal for the style of comic Piro is creating.

As for its relevance... webcomics are a geek thing. Megatokyo is one of THE biggest webcomics, period. He is just as relevant as news about a new anime release by a popular anime director or something... it is news for nerds.

Re:Megatokyo? Nah.... (1)

Uthers (594864) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006595)

Though I have nothing against the manga-style plot Piro is employing, I think the main problem lately has been the way it's dragged. I'm somewhat interested in seeing what happens between Piro and Nanasawa, but with the infrequency of new comics and the lack of activity in a lot of them (ie. Piro and Nanasawa looking at each other pathetically while Largo rants about zombies) I wonder if the story will ever progress. I've been a fan of MT since day one, but and hopefully Piro will be able to get the pace of the comic back up. -Uther

Re:Megatokyo? Nah.... (1)

Microlith (54737) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006716)

Love Hina is not shoujo at all.

It's seinen manga, for older teens (generally college age people), and targeted towards men.

Now then, I do think the original poster is being a little bit of an ass, as though he feels he is owed something by Piro.

First off, his art is several times better (and larger) than many other webcomics out there. He's also trying to build up a larger story. If he could focus on it totally like the mangaka do in Japan (where they turn out a new chapter (15-25 pages) a WEEK, then maybe you'd have a lot more of a story. But since piro is limited to the time he has, and the resources available to him, there's not much that can be done.

Personally I think the line now is great, and since it's been Piro alone, it's moved a _lot_ faster. Where you got this "Does she love me/Will I be able to bone her eventually?" being the plotline from I haven't a damn clue.

Maybe you need to stop watching cheapass daytime soaps with 50 year old cyclical plots and start exploring other stuff out there.

Re:Megatokyo? Nah.... (2, Informative)

BJH (11355) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006801)

Bzzzt! You lose...

Love Hina is actually a shounen manga, aimed at young males between the ages of 12 and 18.

Seinen manga would be series from magazines such as 'Young Magazine' or 'Young Jump'.

(Clue: Love Hina is currently running in Shounen Magazine.)

Sorry, another rant (0)

prototype27 (560145) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006830)

First, I would like to agree that this probably isn't front page news. Second, I'd also like to say that everyone has his or her own opinion, and that this is mine.

That said, I personally have a great liking to MegaTokyo. Yes, the fan base is mostly fanboys/fangirls (myself included), but it does extremely well in that audience. The forums are packed, and there is a strong sense of community amongst the fans. It is a well-known saying that you can't please everyone, and I believe that this applies much more so to internet-related ventures. Fred Gallagher has done an excellent job of catering to his fans, and tries to keep as many people happy as he can, while still maintaining his sanity and controlling his creation.

Though the Dead Piro Days and Shirt Guy Dom can get annoying sometimes, it is often just a short interlude so Fred can catch up with himself. The plot hasn't been moving very much recently, but it will eventually. Patience is the key here.

Also, MegaTokyo is not meant to jump from one isolated gag to another. It is more akin to Japanese comics (manga) or "Graphic novels" (old-style comic books, like Superman, etc.), which tell a more definite story, but take much longer. It also tends to be a little sappier, and is not really geared towards what current American culture is used to. It follows a more relaxed pace, and there is *much* more plot than, say, Dilbert. Mind you, Dilbert is also an excellent comic, but it is in an entirely different class from MegaTokyo. It's like comparing a Sedan to an SUV. They focus on different things.

As for storytelling, Fred was always more involved in long-term plots. Largo did participate in plot development, but he was better at shorter gags and mini-plots, IMO. If the plot in MegaTokyo rubs you the wrong way, then it does. That's just the way things are. Personally, I enjoy the plot, and find it very satisfying, as well as funny.

Again, sorry about the rant. Just voicing my opinion.

if you can't say anything nice... (2)

cabbey (8697) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006856)

...then just shut the fuck up.

Just imagine if ungrateful assholes like you had as open a forum as /. (and the rest of the net in general) back in the days when Picaso, Shakespeare, and Mozart were getting started. Back then you had to be talented to get your words in front of the kind of masses the above tripe was subjected to. Look at any of the big names' really early work, most of it was crap, or at least not up to the level they latter attained. Fred has asperations twoard manga, and a page at a time, even the best manga isn't always funny. Go pickup a good one, pick any page at random and read it, just by itself. Now a couple days later, read the next page... wait a couple days and read another page. You'll very soon note that it's about the same pace as reading MT. If you can't handle that, then don't read the new strips every few days, wait a month or more and come read several of them at the same time.

That's the whole point of the net, it's NOT as much of a meritocracy, you don't have to already be a master in order to put something out there, hell, as you've proven so very well, anyone that can string a sentence together (and even some that can't) can inflict their literary diarrhea on the unsuspecting masses.

That you've not found the humour in the recent stories doesn't suprise me. Fortunately not all the readers of MT are at your level, and even more fortunately, Fred understands this.

Webcomics I read (2, Informative)

jfedor (27894) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006539)


Re:Webcomics I read (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4006546)

I don't know about User Friendly. You know, if I look here [] , you get the feeling that a web comic should be funny, maybe just once, ever.

User Friendly ain't it, dude. Never been funny. But it IS gayer than a submarine full of interior decorators.

Re:Webcomics I read (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4006677)

Open source interior decorators.

Re:Webcomics I read (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4006653)

I read all the ones you mentioned.. Plus, I've recently discovered Ozy and Millie [] , which is my current favorite. Not really geeky, but it *is* a web comic. (Love the art...)

I still like MegaTokyo... (3, Insightful)

DragonPup (302885) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006549)

...but since Largo basically left the comic, you can really feel the difference. I miss that drunken l33t d00d who can dance(I saw him dancing on the last day of Akon this year).

Re:I still like MegaTokyo... (1)

darketernal (196596) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006647)

Well, he's not directly involved with the storyline anymore, but his character in the comic is still as drunk and trigger happy as ever. :)

Re:I still like MegaTokyo... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4006756)

"Well, he's not directly involved with the storyline anymore, but his character in the comic is still as drunk and trigger happy as ever. :)"

It is not the same, it just isn't.

thinkgeek (2)

Lord Omlette (124579) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006554)

I checked all links, where is the Thinkgeek related stuff?

Re:thinkgeek (2)

moonboy (2512) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006619)

"...and new merchandise soon to be available with the help of ThinkGeek."

Re:thinkgeek (2)

Lord Omlette (124579) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006654)

Does that mean Thinkgeek will be selling all the stuff? Or do they have different stuff from the previously available stuff? So anxious!

The internet is so old-skool! Try dead trees! (1)

agent0range_ (472103) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006563)

Offline-only content? I remember, back in the day and when the internet was all new and shiny, people used to offer special online-only content. My, we seem to have come full circle, haven't we?

Iron Cat = crap (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4006591)

Too bad all Iron Cat does is barely-dressed women. I mean, I know Fred likes to draw short skirts and all his female characters are...well equipped... ...but talk about publishers you -DON'T- want publishing your work.

Also, aside from the fact that this is blatant story-for-ad-revinue material, what exactly was justification for this being a story?

These kinds of stories should NOT be main-page material.

Err. (1)

hage (581704) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006628)

Megatokyo is a comic for nerds? What about Schlock Mercenary? []

As with most webcomics, it has started to go slack a bit, but a lot of it is top-notch.

At Otakon (1, Flamebait)

Apreche (239272) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006694)

The longest line for any event were the Megatokyo Panels. The comic is seriously popular among anime fanboys who feel the same as Piro. Our art is superior! We can't get chix! Meanwhile all the people who weren't socially inept (i.e. the ones who didn't pay almost 2000$ for one megatokyo drawing) were at the party. party or wait in line to see a guy who can draw, party, guy who can draw, party... The only people who still like Megatokyo are fanboys. It's popular, because there are a lot of fanboys.

I have to say (2)

The_Shadows (255371) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006703)

I'm a big fan of MT, and congrats to Piro on the book.

But seriously, can we mod this story down as Offtopic?

Re:I have to say (2)

digitalsushi (137809) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006853)

But seriously, can we mod this story down as Offtopic?

Because it's a difficult and laborous task to parse the subject line of each article for your own personal interest, or because you aren't aware that you aren't the center of the universe? In what way is this article offtopic?

head won't stop shaking. (2)

RestiffBard (110729) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006709)

why is this news for nerds? um... cause. it just is. I wouldn't even know megatokyo existed but for slashdot. no one else notice that theres a webcomics slashbox? in it are PA and MT and many others. this is news for nerds. if slashdot posted a story about football then I would wonder what the hell was going on. as for the plot of MT. , it is his strip. and I've never known him to proclaim himself grand poobah of webcomics.

Re:head won't stop shaking. (0)

vga_init (589198) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006747)

Well, in case you haven't noticed, MT is a very accurate embodiment of a generation of nerds/geeks/hackers and is to be taken as very serious news for people part of that generation (such as myself). I'm a big fan of MT and I'm very glad to see it in print.

Support (2, Insightful)

McCart42 (207315) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006752)

When this book comes out I think I will probably buy it. This and Penny Arcade are the two comics that, when intended to be funny, make me laugh on a consistent basis. And when not funny, Megatokyo is at least very good art. I'll admit the story isn't as fast-paced as many other webcomics, but this is a welcome change at times. I figure Fred needs the support and I appreciate his art...I would definitely like to see more manga webcomics.

Too Little Time (2)

Kenshin (43036) | more than 11 years ago | (#4006832)

Umm... why doesn't Piro, instead, put his efforts into ACTUALLY DOING HIS COMIC?

In the past few months he's done maybe FIVE...
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