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IMAX Develops Movie Transfer Technology

timothy posted more than 11 years ago | from the coneheads-better-be-on-the-list dept.

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kazama writes: "Toronto-based IMAX said that it had developed a new process called DMR (for "digital remastering") to digitally convert conventional 35mm films to the IMAX format without significant loss of detail. 'Our customers have been saying to us for years, "We want to see Star Wars on IMAX, we want to see The Matrix on IMAX." and DMR is the technology which is the enabler,' Co-CEO Bradley Wechsler told Reuters. 'That's going to be an increasingly important part of the company's performance.'" So what movies would you want to see on IMAX?

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for me... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4034523)

So what movies would you want to see on IMAX?

pr0n. lots of pr0n.

Re:for me... (1)

Camulus (578128) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034567)

I guess Bill Gates was right when he said pornography is one of the driving forces behind almost every technological advancement. *shudder*

Now THAT'S what I call big breasts! (2)

cryptochrome (303529) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034709)

If they thought the breasts were preposterously large in video, wait'll they get a load of this!

Heh heh... forget porn... they should do an Amazing Nurse Nanako [bootyproject.org] marathon...

two words (0, Redundant)

coug_ (63333) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034532)

IMAX Porn

Re:two words (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4034545)

sorry sir. YHL. your post is redundant by one minute. if you would please read the second comment of the article, you will see taht you are redundant.

Re:two words (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4034569)

unless of course one reads at comment level 1 so as to filter out all the anonymous crap.... besides, his post was better phrased :)

I want to see LOTR on IMAX (1)

Frothy Walrus (534163) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034535)

I want to be right in the middle of the battle for Middle Earth!! :D

Re:I want to see LOTR on IMAX (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4034625)

At first glance I thought this said "I want to be right in the biddle of Battlefield Earth!!"

Re:I want to see LOTR on IMAX (1)

CrystalCut (307381) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034697)

Two words. OMG YES!

And what about other movies that show great vistas or cool effects?

Shoot To Kill
The Time Machine (2002 version)
TRON

I'm sure I could come up with a ton to include in this list. I'd pay $15 bucks to see any of these in an IMAX theater. $25 to see LOTR.

Not the Matrix (1)

MaxVlast (103795) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034537)

I, for one, do _not_ want to see The Matrix in IMAX. 35mm was bad enough...shiver. Keanu's acting is miserable in any resolution, and detail doesn't make up for lack of anything interesting to present in detail.

Re:Not the Matrix (1)

davesag (140186) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034604)

Yeah and i remember when i first saw it on dvd on my mac and thinking "man is Laurence Fishburn's skin really that bad!" seeing those nasty pok marks up so close would be terrifying.

also the aspect ratio would be all wrong. take a film like lawrence of arabia. no one disputes that this is a must see on the big screen and seeing the 70mm print is just amazing, but on an imax screen you'll be sitting far too close to get the benefit of the wide shots of the desert.

on the other hand i am all for technologies that can make small images bigger with no loss in quality. how do they do that?

when are we going to see an imax film that is actually any good?

Re:Not the Matrix (1)

MaxVlast (103795) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034658)

I'm still totally bummed that 70mm never caught on fully. Seeing Kenneth Branaugh's Hamlet in 70mm at a Sony theater might have been one of the most spectacular (and certainly most memorable) moviegoing experiences of my life.

Re:Not the Matrix (3, Interesting)

Xaoswolf (524554) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034610)

I would have to agree, the whole reason for watching an IMAX is to become immersed in the movie, Which is what makes the nature ones so good. When flying over a volcano, you feel like you are actually flying there. The sharks swimming around you become a little more scarry. A 30' tall Keanu does nothing to inhance the film.
I wouldn't mind watching Star Wars though, I bet some of the space battles would be pretty beat ass, not to mention watching a bunch of ATAT's crushing Hoth.

Oh boy (0, Flamebait)

jormurgandr (128408) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034538)

Great, something else for the MPAA to be pissed aobut. Those greedy little buggers... Anyway, I think this is great. Nothing better than "Ernest goes to camp" on an IMAX screen. Just what the world needs.

Re:Oh boy (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4034576)

Why would the MPAA be pissed? IMAX wouldn't be stupid enough to violate copyright laws, they aren't a bunch of penniless geeks.

The best part is that you idiots will go see all the movies you wank over AGAIN once they are reformatted for IMAX. The MPAA thanks you for giving them the money to afford the batallion of laywers they will use to get you sent to prison.

Re:Oh boy (1)

heliocentric (74613) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034600)

Nothing better than "Ernest goes to camp" on an IMAX screen.

If there are three lines:

1. Ernest goest to camp IMAX Movie
2. Dude, where's my car IMAX Movie
3. Slow painful death involving hideous torture locked in a room with Martha Stewart, Carrot Top, and Anna Nicole Smith.

Which would you choose?

Re:Oh boy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4034683)

Of course, Ernest Goes to Camp!

The other two don't even sound that good at all.

Re:Oh boy (1)

The Dobber (576407) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034695)



Would that be the occasionally slimmed down Anna Nicole or the more recently as seen on E! porked out Anna?

Cause it might make a difference. I could distract Martha S with some Imclone stock and give ol C-Top a rotary phone.

duh (1)

seizer (16950) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034539)

Sure, you can interpolate and use fancy smoothing and guessing algorithms. But you can't get it looking as good as something that was shot originally for IMAX. I'm sure it looks good, but not that good.

This could be useful.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4034540)

They should show porn on IMAX screens

Movies? How about an IMAX monitor? (0, Offtopic)

erlkonig (15872) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034544)

Having an IMAX screen for a computer monitor - now that's even better than the IBM T221, neh? The perfect display system for the as-yet-unfinished bedroom Beowulf cluster :-)

How do they do it now? (5, Interesting)

SClitheroe (132403) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034550)

This is confusing to me...a long time ago, I watched Jurrasic Park on an IMAX screen, and was disappointed - the image was not IMAX size (didn't fill the whole screen)nor aspect ratio. The only benefit was the better sound system.

But recently, I went to the local mega theater to see SpiderMan, and was suprised to learn they were showing it on the IMAX screen. I expected the same thing, but it wasn't - it was a full sized IMAX image, and the image quality seemed fine to me.

So if this technology in the article is some new innovation, how are they doing it right now, and what are the disadvantages of the current approach?

Re:How do they do it now? (5, Informative)

anotherone (132088) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034611)

You might have seen a 70mm print (as opposed to a 35mm print) of Spiderman on the imax screen. It wouldn't be full Imax size, but it's a lot bigger.

Re:How do they do it now? (2)

Neon Spiral Injector (21234) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034645)

I was going to post a comment asking what is wrong with doing optical transfers? I'd think the film-digital-film conversion would loose something. I guess their new magical process tries to add something in the process. But what is the size of a IMAX print, 62mm or something? There will be an aweful lot of dots to process and store.

I think the audio in IMAX theaters is digital as is the sound track for most modern movies, so someone already digitized it, all is left is for them to work some magic on those bits to try to get more out of them.

I don't get it either. You can't shine shit. You can't recreate information that was orginally lost when shooting on 35mm.

Star Wars.. (2)

Chicane-UK (455253) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034552)

Well, seeing as I grew up in the wrong time period to see Star Wars when it first came out (and was not interested when it got remastered and shown at various marathons at local cinemas), I for one would love to see Star Wars get redone using this technology and then get a re-release.

I wouldn't imagine I am the only one either :)

What else? (3, Funny)

denzo (113290) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034553)

The Blair Witch Project on IMAX, of course! How else are we supposed to compete for projectile vomitting distances?

Interesting... (3, Insightful)

IIRCAFAIKIANAL (572786) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034554)

Has this tech been used already?

I saw LOTR on the imax screen here in Calgary. My girlfriend got annoyed watching it though - too blurry and it gave her motion sickness. We could have done the same thing with Spider-Man but we saw it on a regular screen instead.

Re:Interesting... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4034619)

nice username

if i recall correctly, as far as i know, i am not a lawyer

cool.

Re:Interesting... (0)

bafreer (592306) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034622)

I got stuck up in traffic and entered 5 minutes late, had to sit in the front row.

basically the same effect

Bout fricken time! (1)

Bizaff (443681) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034556)

I hope this works out as well as they're touting. We just got one of these theaters a year or two ago, but I'm just not interested in 'Avalanche' or stuff like that. Show classics, like the Indiana Jones movies and such, and I'll gladly spend money to go there, probably more often than a regular theater.

Re:Bout fricken time! (1)

DavidLeblond (267211) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034681)

Maybe they'll put Indy on IMAX after they finish the DVD release which, by the rate they're going, won't be any time soon.

Oh Man!!! (3, Funny)

getagrip (86081) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034558)

I just upgraded to HDTV. Now I have to go out and buy an IMAX projector for my home theater system? Where will it end???

Ernest goes to Camp! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4034561)

admit it -- you'd go

better theaters (1)

TinCanFury (131752) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034564)

maybe they could just build better movie theaters so we don't need to see movies in IMAX. I've been lucky enough to have seen movies in theaters that put IMAX to shame, and its quite an experience...

ANOTHER Lucas remake? (5, Funny)

BDew (202321) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034568)

Imagine what Star Wars will look like when Lucas gets done remastering it for an Imax screen. Not only will Greedo fire first, but he'll be accompanied by two Hutts. Then Han will have a long discussion with them about the morality of self-defense and playing nice with other children.

The possibilities are, unfortunately, endless...

Re:ANOTHER Lucas remake? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4034629)

What the fuck are you talking about? What is a Greedo and what are Hutts? What does 'fire first' mean? Han?

Please explain this crap, or speak English.

Re:ANOTHER Lucas remake? (2, Insightful)

Clue4All (580842) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034639)

That change pissed me off like no other in the Special Edition series. Han was cool because he was a bad-ass mercenary. He got down to business and got rid of Greedo because he was in his way. Now suddenly he fired in self defense because Greedo missed with a blaster from THREE FEET AWAY?? Truly awful.

Great Slashdot Poll (5, Funny)

Consul (119169) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034570)

I smell a great /. poll here...


Which movie would you like to see in IMAX?

  • Star Wars (any or all)
  • The Matrix
  • Lost In Space
  • Metropolis
  • Godzilla vs. Mothra
  • Plan Nine From Outer Space
  • Night of the Living CoybowNeals


:o)

Re:Great Slashdot Poll (1)

bo0push3r (456800) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034705)

Waterworld

Stephen King's The Stand

Debbie Does Dallas 2000

That Infomercial for The Spray-on Hair

This movie is a pretty good choice for an imax (2)

yeoua (86835) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034571)

Step into Liquid, which I don't think is released yet, seems like a good choice for imax, if it isn't for imax already. That first cam angle where it goes into the wave would be one amazing effect on a huge imax screen.

http://www.stepintoliquid.com/

http://www.apple.com/trailers/independent/step_i nt o_liquid.html

What movie on IMAX? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4034572)

girls gone wild

2001: A Space Odyssey (2, Insightful)

HWheel (444926) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034574)

For my sixth grade graduation present, I asked my parents to take me to 2001, which we saw in Colorado Springs in, what I now know to be, "Super Panavision," the only time I've ever seen such a "vision." Some time later, the theater was broken into four separate theaters and was later torn down.

Movies I want to see... (5, Funny)

Abstruse (100599) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034578)

I'd like to see Clerks on IMAX, just for the absurdity factor of watching a movie originally shot on 16mm film projected from 75mm film.

Re:Movies I want to see... (2)

(startx) (37027) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034653)

That WOULD be absurdity! I recently bought the clerks special edition DVD, and you know what? it looks exactly the same as the 100mb .asf of it I downloaded 3 years ago on efnet.

DMR?? (3, Insightful)

erroneus (253617) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034582)

I'm sorry, but if it were assigned a 3-letter acronym, it would have to be "DRM." But I suppose that has been taken already and should be scrambled...

DigiRema sounds pretty cool though... or DiRema maybe. I have nothing more useful to contribute at this time.

This Article Should Have Been... (0)

Mike Mentalist (544984) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034583)

an 'Ask Slashdot';

'What films, apart from pr0n, do you want to see on IMAX?'

The question 'what films...' is an obvious one on a site dominated by male techs...

Just for the sake of nostalgia... (2)

CrazyDwarf (529428) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034585)

I say let's see Tron. It isn't that great of a movie, but I seem to remember thinking it was the greatest thing since sugarless sweatener when I was a kid.

Re:Just for the sake of nostalgia... (1)

xchino (591175) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034630)

Yeah but sugarless sweetener sucks too. I ain't scared of no stinkin arcade game!

Re:Just for the sake of nostalgia... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4034689)

...the greatest thing since sugarless sweatener...

Is it hot in here or is it just me?

Reservoir Dogs! Pulp Fiction! (1)

B3ryllium (571199) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034590)

From Dusk Til Dawn would be fun on IMAX :) Or John Carpenter's Vampires. That one would be cool :)

screw conversion... (2)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034593)

I want to see MATRIX-reloaded on IMAX if the filmed it on IMAX film.

conversion cannot create detail out of nothing. you can fudge and guess but the big draw of IMAX is the insane detail on the insane side screen.

Sorry but if they shot Everest on cheap-ol 35MM film and tried to pass it off as an IMAX film with conversion it would have lost almost every bit of it's impact by losing the detail and resolution.

I wanna see (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4034594)

"Metalstorm: The Destruction of Jared Synn" in 3D IMAX!!

pr0n? no. (5, Funny)

UncleOzzy (158525) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034603)

I've seen a lot of posts already saying, "sh0w suM pr0n!!!!1!!!"



People, think about what you're saying. Pornography (at least the modern sort) is shot for the small screen. The very small screen. Nineteen inch televisions or, even worse, computer monitors. As a result, its directors often go for the extreme closeup, usually to great effect.



Now think about these closeups on IMAX. Gaping orifices of every level of hygeine standing several stories high? I don't know about you, but that sounds more "nauseating" than "erotic."



So please, think twice before you request porn on the (really) big screen. This has been a public service announcement(TM).

Re:pr0n? no. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4034634)

stupid "plain old text" default. a pox on thee.

Its all about.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4034609)

The Biodome - Rocketman doulbe feature!.

I'd like to see IMAX on IMAX! (2)

Chairboy (88841) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034616)

What movie would I like to see on IMAX? Classical IMAX movies, for one! This may sound dumb, but the truth of the matter is that some of the best IMAX films are out of circulation and simply cannot be seen today.

For example:
Tomorrow in Space
To Fly!
Titanica

Re:I'd like to see IMAX on IMAX! (2)

Chairboy (88841) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034646)

whoops, submitted too early:

On The Wings
L5: First City In Space
Hail Columbia!
and
The Dream Is Alive, a movie about the shuttle program released just before the Challenger disaster.

These are great, but the only thing you can find is the (albeit neat) Space Station 3d and some 'Xtreme' stunts movie.

Blade (2)

rooinlondon (599496) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034617)

I want to see blood showering from the ceiling, and see each drop fly in front of my eyes. I'm not usually the psychotic type, but I've seen the movie at least half a dozen times and *love* it!

Re:Blade (1)

kazama (468542) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034673)

Not to mention the soundtrack blaring on the IMAX sound system durring this scene. *drool*

Picture might be clear but... (4, Interesting)

John Harrison (223649) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034621)

What isn't clear is if they only want to go back and remaster past films that have been hits or if they want to do this to first run films. I would love to see LoTR: TTT on an IMAX screen. At least I think I would. I am assuming that they aren't lying when they say they can bump up the quality.

For action films lots of people might want to see them first run on the IMAX screen. I don't know about dramas. Who wants to see Road to Perdition on a giant screen? Or worse yet, When Harry Met Sally?

Of course this trend might annoy George Lucas. I am not aware of any digital project capability for IMAX theaters. They would need a really impressive high resolution digital projector to go to IMAX size. Which reminds me, most IMAX movies run for a long time. I mean they are at the theater for about a year. I would guess that the film is expensive to produce and transport. Would it make economic sense to convert The Matrix? How many people would pay $10 to see it again on a really big screen? Maybe first run movies would be a better bet.

Spaceballs and Starship Troopers (2)

LowneWulf (210110) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034623)

Some of the humor might be lost though: all of Spaceball 1 would fit on the screen!

And come on, giant bugs diving at me at Imax size can't be beat.

IMAX locations? (2, Interesting)

TonyZahn (534930) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034626)

Where are these theaters located anyway? Here in Maryland we have one in the Baltimore Science Center, and one in the Smithsonian (I think it's the Museum of Natural History) in DC. Are any of these theaters meant for the general movie-going public or all they all attatched to educational centers?
If they're all in museums and such, then I don't see the point in releasing the latest summer blockbuster there.

Re:IMAX locations? (1)

Alpha_Geek (154209) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034702)

There's also one in the Air & Space Museum. They are not all attached to educational institutions, but I think most are. For example there are a couple at casinos in Las Vegas.

I don't get the letters (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4034635)

How does DMR stand for Digital Remastering? Wouldn't DRM make more sense? Oh that's right, that's already been used...

Sam

Of (2)

Apreche (239272) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034640)

course all the good movies have already been taken. So I'm going to put my money on Akira, Transformers The Movie, Battle Royale, Monty Python(any one of 'em), and the Super Mario Bros. movie just for laughs.

70mm vs 35mm (4, Informative)

pagercam2 (533686) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034641)

I beleive that the average theater uses 35mm film but in the high end theaters they often also can use 70mm. In a multiplex that I used to go to in VA they had two screens of 70mm for new/big releases and featured that they were 70mm while the other 10 screens were 35mm. IIRC IMAX is a 70mm format, but I assume different from the run of the mill 70mm film projector, so they could use the higher quality 70mm film in an IMAX, but it wouldn't be up to full IMAX standards, what they are suggesting here is that they can digitally enhance the film from 35mm to make it acceptable on IMAX screens.

What movies do I want to see on IMAX? (2)

randomErr (172078) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034652)

What movies do I want to see on IMAX?

Armatage III OVA version - Especially the final battle.
Tenchi Muyo OVA
Princess Minoko
The Rats of Nihm

[Before you flame me, I freely admit my spelling sux]

Movies I would like to see at an IMAX (5, Funny)

teamhasnoi (554944) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034663)

The English Patient
Ishtar
C.H.U.D
Licence to Drive
Ladybugs
Chairman of the Board (with the irrepressable Carrottop!)
Sister Act 2: Back in the Habit
The Master of Disguise
The Country Bears
and finally, the #1 Movie I would like to see at an IMAX: Air Bud 4: Seventh Inning Fetch!

A guy can dream, can't he?

Scientology involved in IMAX? (2)

IIRCAFAIKIANAL (572786) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034664)

"... as well as enlisting Tom Cruise as the narrator of our new hit 3D film SPACE STATION."
He'll probably ramble on about Xenu or something. Hoo boy. This could be a conspiracy, huh?

--
It's a joke. Laugh.

how about... (1, Redundant)

vex24 (126288) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034668)

how about the Blair Witch Project... that'd be a nice big puke-fest. ;)


Aw but seriously, any of the biggees would be nice... Braveheart, Star Trek First Contact, maybe 2001...

Films for IMAX, and general categories of them (1)

erlkonig (15872) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034676)

Here are some more:
  • Akira
  • Tron
  • any Star Wars (although JarJar on IMAX is, ummm...)
  • any Lord of the Rings
  • Men in Black - especially the end sequence
  • Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
  • Perfect Storm - you thought those waves were big on a normal screen, eh...
And just about any movie with serious panaromas, including lots of art films, some of the shorts out of the animation festivals, films with large battles scenes or including view from aircraft or space, and so on.

What I want to see on IMAX (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4034690)

Yo' Momma...cuz 'da beyotch don't fit on regular widescreen...

I'm a little clueless... (1)

DLWormwood (154934) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034700)

...so I'll ask. What is the advantage of transfering a 35mm source to a larger format? You wouldn't gain resolution or quality, you would just get interpolation or blurring. My understanding was that the only reason IMAX theaters traditionally have massive screens was to show off the increased detail of the film format. Is there a specific reason why transfering a film to IMAX format gains anything?

Be HONEST: PR0N!!!!!! (1)

ausoleil (322752) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034706)

C'mon, the classics of the genre in IMAX?

Are you kidding me? Every detail exposed in tender, loving IMAX quality?

Yeppers, there IS a silent majority that would dearly love to see their favorite pr0n babe up on the IMAX screen. :)

imax dmr (4, Informative)

intuition (74209) | more than 11 years ago | (#4034708)

If a feature length film was shown on an IMAX screen, the studios and IMAX were probably looking the other way.

IMAX and the Hollywood studios don't want some hack to display regular film onto an IMAX sized screen. Its going to look bad, period. Even if you go to a multiplex that has a "very large screen" (General Cinema's Green Monster Screen in Boston, MA comes to mind) movies look like crap on it. Jittery and grainy.

However, IMAX and the Hollywood studios are waking up to the fact of revenue potential from full feature length films being shown on IMAX sized screens. Of course this must be done according to IMAX's brand level of quality. IMAX DMR represents the initiative to do get this done. The first feature length hollywood film to be shown with this technology will be Apollo 13. So if you think you have seen a movie with this technology and it wasn't Apollo 13 pre-screen and you were a member of the public when you saw it, then you are deluding yourself.

Disney's Beauty and the Beast represented an earlier "beta" generation of this technology. So if you saw that you get some idea.

Text of a press release follows :

Universal Pictures, Imagine Entertainment and IMAX Corporation bring Apollo 13: The IMAX Experience to IMAX screens worldwide.

Apollo 13 tells the dramatic true story of the heroic actions needed to bring a three-astronaut crew safely back to Earth after the Apollo 13 space mission suffered catastrophic mechanical problems en route to the Moon. Made with NASA's collaboratioin, the highly-suspenseful film is scientifically and historically accurate. Apollo 13 features strong performances from the ensemble cast, led by Oscar®-winning actor Tom Hanks, and brilliant direction by Ron Howard, another Oscar winner. Apollo 13 will be digitally re-mastered into IMAX's 15/70 format using the revolutionary IMAX DMRTM technology.

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