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Tracking Your Employees, Children

michael posted more than 12 years ago | from the not-much-difference-at-many-companies dept.

Privacy 262

Mattygfunk writes "Hong Kong has launched what's believed to be Asia's first location-based service which enables companies to locate their employees via their mobile phones signals." And in a semi-related story, Son-of-a-Geek writes "The BBC is reporting on a new GPS device for kids from Wherify Wireless. With the new device parents can track junior or he can call for help by pushing a panic button. Available only in the US for one penny less than 400 dollars it is a pager as well."

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Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4076216)

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Q: How do I know if I found Mr Right ?
A: Unfortunately, there's no sure way to tell. Therefore, I suggest you try out many different kinds of men and many different kinds of bars.

Q: Do men like aggresive women?
A: Definitely. Although they don't admit it, men are often shy - so it's up to you to be bold. In addition to bars, don't be affraid to approach men on streetcorners, in restaurants, even in restrooms. Break the ice with simple "hello", followed by an offer to buy them dinner, drinks - even an expensive gift. Then invite them to back to your place.

Q: What if a man's married ?
A: Go for it. This is a great opportunity to enjoy the valuable experience a married man possesses, without being tied down by any sort of commitment.

Q: But what if I fall in love with a married man ?
A: This is a tough one, especially if you find yourself pregnant. Ask him how he feels about his wife and family. If he says his wife doesn't understand him and he's thinking of leaving her, believe him and continue your relationship, secure in the knowledge that he'll soon make good his promise. Married men rarely lie about such important matters.

Q: How do I know if I'm ready for sex ?
A: ask your boyfriend. He'll know when the time is right. When it comes to love and sex, men are much more responsible, since they're not confused emotionally as women. It's a proven fact.

Q: Should I have sex on the first date ?
A: YES. Before if possible.

Q: What exactly happens during the act of sex ?
A: Again, this is entirely up to the man. The important thing to remember is that you must do whatever he tells you without question. Sometimes, however, he may ask you to do certain things that may at first seem strange to you. Do them anyway.

Q: How long should the sex act last ?
A: This is a natural and normal part of nature, so don't feel ashamed or embarressed. After your man has finished making love, he'll have a natural desire to leave you suddenly, and go out with his friends to play golf. Or perhaps another activity, such as going out with his friends to the bar for the purpose of consuming large amounts of alcohol and sharing a few personal thoughts with his buddies. Don't feel left out - while he's gone you can busy yourself by doing his laundry, cleanig his apartment, or perhaps even going out to buy him an expensive gift. He'll come back when he's ready.

Q: What is "afterplay" ?
A: After a man has finished making love, he needs to replenish his manly energy. "Afterplay" is simply a list of important activities for you to do after the lovemaking. This includes lighting his cigarette, making him a sandwich or pizza, bringing him a few beers, or leaving him alone to sleep while you go out and buy him an expensive gift.

Q: Does the size of the penis matter ?
A: Yes. Although many women believe that quality, not quantity, is important, studies show this is simply not true. The average erect male penis measures about six centimeters. Anything longer than that is extremely rare and, if by some chance your lover's sexual organ is seven centimeters or over, you should go down on yur knees and thank you lucky stars and do everything possible to please him, such as doing his laundry, cleaning his apartment and buying him an expensive gift.

Q: What about the female orgasm ?
A: What about it ? There's no such thing. It's a myth.

Q: Are you sure ?
A: Will you stop asking so many questions ? Do you distrust men or something ? Instead, prove how much you care for your boyfriend by going out and buying him an expensive gift.

I get it... (5, Funny)

Alpha42 (19695) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076220)

So for just 399.99, I can have a little electro-gizmo that will do the job that I, as a parent, should have been doing all along (Tracking where little Johnny is, and what mischief he's been into)..


(Don't get me wrong, I'm all for electro-gizmos, but I also believe that parents should be responsible for just that... parenting.)

Its O.K (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4076288)

For only 299.99, you can get a little electro-gizmo that will make sure that little Johnny stays in one place. Television, they call it. Just plonk your child down in front of one, and Hey Presto! the child will not move until it is switched off, freeing you from the bothersome problem of parenting (Including having to know where your child is!)

Modern Parenting Inc. Because You Can't Be Bothered!

Re: I get it... (4, Insightful)

Ian Wolf (171633) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076361)

No parent can be there 100% of the time for their child. In the past six months, kids have been taken from their bedrooms, school yards, as well as their front yard.

It maybe "en vogue" to blast parents for their irresponsibility, but there are some things that all parents are defensless against.

I have a little girl coming this January, and I'm terrified. We live in a world full of sick and twisted individuals and there are practical limits to what parents can do to protect their children.

Hell, my parents were the best parents anyone could hope for, but that doesn't mean they were permanently adjoined to my hip 24x7. I was often alone at the bus stop. Sometimes I decided to walk home from school or from a friends house. I would periodically walk to the store less than 1000ft from my house. And sometimes, I would run off somewhere to do something they expressly forbade me to do.

I think this device, as is, is perfect for its target market, small children. For my teenager, I would prefer a device that they could turn on and off, so that they can control when it should act like a distress beacon. There comes a time, where you have to respect your kids right to be a kid.

Re: I get it... (1)

Alpha42 (19695) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076507)

"In the past six months, kids have been taken from their bedrooms, school yards, as well as their front yard."

Just for the record, kids have always been snatched up by sick and twisted individuals. It's just that within the last six months it's suddenly become "en vogue" to broadcast it on the six oclock news once again since there's apparently nothing better going on in the world. Kids have been kidnapped for decades, and they always will be, sometimes from the most caring and protective of households, I'm not debating that, I'm saying that any device with claims to 'assist' the situation is only going to make it worse, as it takes yet another responsibility off the parental units.

"Hell, my parents were the best parents anyone could hope for... And sometimes, I would run off somewhere to do something they expressly forbade me to do."

And you're still here to talk about it today right? Your parents cared, where there, and you still managed to put yourself into situations that could have resulted in your being hurt and/or abducted (it's okay, we all did it at sometime, don't sweat it) So what's the problem? The problem is that some clueless moron will buy one of these things, strap it to his kid, and assume "hey, the kids got the beeper, I can run off to the bar with the guys and chill, if anything goes wrong, they can set it off."... then little Johnny procedes to burn the house down, get run over, or get manhandled by the local priest, and clueless moron dad will sue said company and anyone within armreach claiming "They said it would protect little Johnny!"... Trust me, it WILL happen.

Stopping kids from getting hurt is all well and good, having one of these is fine, as long as you don't for a second let yourself be disillisioned into thinking that it's really anything other then a "Toy" that your kid will undoubtly take apart to tinker with, trade to a friend for some baseball cards, or leave at home on the dresser on a regular basis. Not to mention that they'll never carry it anywhere once they get old enough to realize that "Mom and Dad know where I'm at when I've got this thing with me!" I guess I should have explained myself better in my original post... not all parents are bad parents, and not eveyrone who'd buy one of these is going to be an idiot about it.. but I'm just so tired and sick of watching people these days find new ways to pawn their responsibility off onto others and/or gadgest...

Re: their irresponsibility (1)

RobertNotBob (597987) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076536)

It maybe "en vogue" to blast parents for their irresponsibility, but there are some things that all parents are defensless against.


So you are a good parrent. Please allow me to take a momment (before I go on a rant) to genuinely applaude you. If more people were like you, the world would be a better place.

However, the number of people who have invested the level of thought that you have, is uncomfortably low. There ARE bad parrents out there. They have problems that ARE their own fault that they then expect society to fix while they whine about how unfortunate they are.

It is no wonder that the children of these people have little feeling of accountability as they have never seen what that looks like. Take for example the kids that shot up thier high school and killed themselves. If their parrents had done that personally they would be on 'death row' right now, and I am not so sure that they shouldn't be there now.

And while there are situations where bad things happen to good people, more often than not, the story ends up being that half of what would be considered 'due dilligence' would have protected these poor children.

Allow me to sum-up the point I am trying to make. Bad things happening to children is not always due to the neglegence of the parrents. BUT when it IS, they should be recognised as the criminals that they are and removed from society just like all of the other scum.

Re:I get it... (1)

yatest5 (455123) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076389)

So for just 399.99, I can have a little electro-gizmo that will do the job that I, as a parent, should have been doing all along (Tracking where little Johnny is, and what mischief he's been into)..

Has anyone considered that someone who snatches a child may take the precaution of taking such devices off them and throwing them away?

Re:I get it... (2)

Ian Wolf (171633) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076432)

The device was created with a lock. Of course the sick bastard could just cut the kids hand off, you have to hope that either A) he doesn't realize what it is. or b) recognizes what it is and simply leaves your kid alone.

Of course, an unselfish/noble individual would prefer (A) and that the guy is caught quickly before any harm is done, but I think many parents would be happy with (B).

Re:I get it... (2)

Pedersen (46721) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076400)

There's this little thing called kidnapping. Someday, you should consider looking into it. Now, I'm not sure of the exact number of missing children in this country, but I do know it's at least 6 digits.

The reality is that there are any number of ways for a stranger to grab a hold of your child. I've seen studies (and video tapes) which show that a complete stranger can kidnap a child in under 60 seconds off a playground. Now, imagine a pair of mothers taking their children to the playground (especially if one of them has two children). Being people, the mothers might actually start talking to each other. Now, how easy would it be for a potential kidnapper to grab one of their children? And you would blame the mother for this?

It's not about a parent doing (or not doing) their job. It's about being able to undo the damage done by unscrupulous individuals as quickly as possible. Keep that in mind.

Re:I get it... (1)

gowen (141411) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076490)

There's this little thing called kidnapping. ... Now, I'm not sure of the exact number of missing children in this country, but I do know it's at least 6 digits.
And only a tiny percentage of them have anything to do with kidnapping. The vast majority of missing children have left home voluntarily, and I'd imagine that very few of them would choose to take their electronic tag with them.

Re:I get it... (2)

Patman (32745) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076523)

The vast majority of missing children in this country non-stranger abductions.

This device will do nothing. Any child who wants to get it off or get away from it will. And any kidnapper with half a brain would
get rid of this thing. It's not like it's tacked on.

There is *no* substitute for a parent. Should you give your kids freedom? Yes. But you should still know where they are, where they're going, and how they're getting there.

Don't depend on a 400 dollar piece of equipment to do what you should be doing.

Re:I get it... (2)

lythander (21981) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076420)

Except it can only do it where your PCS phone will work. Look at the coverage map, the feind planning to nip your progeny surely has.

Re:I get it... (2)

Ian Wolf (171633) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076450)

You're confusing the two techs discussed. The employee tracking uses cell phones. The kid watch uses GPS.

Err, yes but.. (2)

tonywestonuk (261622) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076492)

Did you never 'get lost' when you were a kid?.... Was it your parents fault, or yours for 'wandering off?' - The fact is that parents can't constantly keep an eye on there kids - there attention needs only to be distracted for a brief moment for kids to disappear, and this gizmo is for when, the kids find themselves lost.

Re:Err, yes but.. (2)

AndrewHowe (60826) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076521)

So when you got lost as a kid, what happened? Did you wander for months, and end up being raised by wild animals in the jungle?
I think not... Yes, even before the days of such technological gimmicks, people did actually manage to exist...

I was never lost. (1)

Unknown Poltroon (31628) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076567)

I always wound up in the book section, or the toy section. I knew right where i was and where I was going. ;)

Excellent! (2)

Latent IT (121513) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076223)

Now I just need to buy my wife a 'pager'. ;p

Re:Excellent! (1)

inburito (89603) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076250)

Just make sure it has a vibrating alert and she might even want you to page her.. :-)

Re:Excellent! (1)

the way, what're you (591901) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076484)

No problem, she'll just leave it in the parking lot until she gets back from my house. ;)

fp (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4076224)


How to Lay a Girl (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4076233)

A. Purpose of this guide.

Firstly, this isn't a joke guide. All the methods described here are working, and with not too much difficulties.

Don't expect that you will be able to lay a girl in one week. Not with this guide anyway. If you have the time, patience, and some manners, you will succeed.

I don't pretend to be a big expert in girls; I'm not. But after some experience with them, I can provide you some information that can help you, with the first moves between he's and her's business.

I will happily update this guide and improve it, with your help, of course. Please send me comments and please help to make it better.

B. The first meets

I believe you have a girlfriend you can experiment with. If you don't, find one. For those purposes, every mid looking girl will suit. Every one can owe a girlfriend, and it's not the time and place to explain how to reach one. (maybe in the next "completed guide of...").

If you don't have a girlfriend yet, at least try to achieve a meet with one.

If you want to continue seeing this girl you have to remember the following:

* Don't make a physical connection on the first dates (don't kiss her goodbye and don't hug her )

* Let her talk. If she has a lot to say - just listen. A node with the head and some leading questions will do.

* If she is permanently silent you can always ask her about:
- herself (hobbies ext.)
- school (although it seems to be boring, you can talk hours on this subject)
- her musical prefers (If she mentions an artist that you dislike, don't show it to her. Just hide it.
- tell her about yourself.
- ask her if she knows x & y from her school.
- and the most important: don't answer with yes or no. those above are chat-stoppers. Expand you speech.
- tell her jokes
- remember to have a lot of humour - they like it.
- very important : don't be serious.
- Mind your manners: don't talk rudely nor curse.
- smile : release the tense.

If all the above fail, and you can't find common language with her, you Probably won't keep with her long time.

* Where to go at the first time:

- movie (let her choose, but don't insist on doing so) You can talk about the movie latter. Pay for you both. (as it's obvious). If she's ok, she will insist on paying on herself.
- go for a walk
- meet at one of your homes. (It's better on her home - she'll feel more relaxed and free)
- party : if available
- School - only if you learn in the same school

* If you enjoyed her company, tell her so. Tell her that you enjoyed, and you want to see her again. Before the end of the meet, fix yourselves a new date (fix it on the same evening)exchange telephones, ofcourse.

* Flatter her, but know your limits. Flatter to her nice sides. (Every one has some). Tell her how nice she is. Flatter to her looks (If you at least find her attractive). Don't say to her "You are the most beautiful girl I ever so"- It sounds non-natural.(She's Probably not.)

* If she plays (love-games) a little - please understand. we'll close the bills later...

* Don't bother her with too much telephone calls. Be cool at the first meets, or she'll take advantage over you. Show her you interested, but not desperate.

How will you know if you are friends or not? here are some ways:

- Hear what her girlfriend thinks about your connection.(For instance: If she meets her girlfriend in the street, and the above askes if she is your girlfriend - hear what she says (it's an embarrassing moment - from experience...)
- Enter phrases that assume that she is you girlfriend in your talkes to her. (not infront of her and your friends) See how she react to those statements.

The first physical connection. There are two ways establishing it:

* The spontaneous way: Kiss her goodbye (not in the first date - she'll appreciate it if you'll have patience.) In the following date take you hands together. It's very romantic. Dance with her in one of your homes. Dance is a kind of hug, and it the middle of this slow song - kiss here. (she might be shy in public, so understand her, and do this critical steps in public garden or other quiet place.)

* The non-spontaneous way: Lead her to non-public and quiet place (i.e. garden) look in her eyes and silent for a moment or so. She, understanding the moment, will silent too. Approach her head with yours, and gently kiss her a few times on her mouth. Hug her. (BTW, this the recommended way).

By this time, if she is with you, you'll understand that she likes your company. If she didn't, you won't reach that stage. If she likes you (or love you - in the better case), she would more then hugs and kisses -- but don't hurry. You should have patience. You should reach the bed only by small steps.

C. Phase I - "I like you"

You (both) will start to say compliments to each other. Don't say you love her if you don't feel anything to her. Choose the right moment of doing so.

Imagine the situation: You tell her "I Love you.". She, likes you very much, but the way to love is still long. She will be in shocking situation. If she'll say "I love you too" and she doens't mean it - you will both leave in lie. If she'll be silent, you will Probably have bad feelings -- "She doesn't love me at all.."

You can say to her "I like you/your looks/your style." This isn't strong as "love". Love is very strong word. Don't use it when not needed.

Some guys say to their girls that they love them - They think she will jump to the bed right a way. Although she will try to show you her greetings, don't expect to much. She's just a girl, and if she is between younger then 16. she's Probably virgin.

Bring her flowers & presents some time - it will mean very much to her. If you like to write, write her love letters. Bring her audio cassette with love songs - she'll remember you and connect you to them.

D. Phase II The body language

You are now on the kings way.

You should talk about sex by this time. Ask her what she thinks about it. (Don't involve doing sex with YOU). Ask her about sex generally. Ask her what is the appropriate age for doing it.

Start investigating her body - only in one of your homes. After you kiss her you should get to a situation where you are laying one infront of another (on the bed)

Let your hand travel over her body Don't touch between her legs - do the things in the order below.

Sneak you hand under her skirt and pat her back. If she wears a bra put you hand under the stripe (the one above her back - but don't open it - let your hand travel under the bra surface and forward to her tits. Don't touch hard there - it hurts. If she resists get you hand out of there quickly. We will continue later with this. Give her 10 minutes of rest from the last event. Talk about something else. (Remember - Don't ask her why she resists. Just ignore.)

Another area you should quest is her ass. Pat it gently - Stack you hand gently under her trousers and move your hand more deeply every time. She'll Probably resist or do sounds of disagreement. Remember - Even if she says she's not - She like your touches there. By this time you should be friends for 1-2 months or so - you know each other enough for those games.

After few meets doing the above, you can try removing her bra. The fastest you do it-the better she won't say anything. Don't ask her too remove it by herself - You're on you own now. after you opened it, don't ask her to totally remove it (not at the first time, at least).

Now it's a very important moment. Remember to close the lights, and get blanket from somewhere. Move you hand down to the area of her cunt. (all with clothes, of course). Pat her near it - but don't touch it directly. She'll bag in her mind from you to do it. After a few minutes of doing so, (Don't forget to kiss her all the times...she's not a sex machine)

Move your hand directly to there. You might feel some bones there (and by this time you are wondering where the hall is)

Don't ask her if it's good to her. It is. Your touch there is just like an electrical shock - it's very pleasuring.

If she's OK, she will do the same to you, so you will both feel perfect understand of each other. She might resist to your touch, but -believe me- if you'll stop toucing there for a meet or so, she will curse herself. The next time you'll try - you won't hear a hiss. her trousers. If she'll resist ask her what she afraids from. What can possibly happen? Start patting her cunt harder and with circulating movements. (she is still with her underwear -- don't remove it!)Have patience and control yourself. If she'll like what you are doing there, and she's OK, she will do the same to you. Don't hide your erect penis. You can't. But she'll will be amazed from the quick reaction...

Now your hand is there - circulating over her underwear. The best way of directly touching it is to "accidently" insert a finger under her underwear. (Do it from her legs side) She want resist...don't insert a finger in the hole - It can hurt even if she isn't virgin. Remove you fingers from there and insert full hand from her stomach side. Lay your forehand on her hair, and let the fingers play a little down there. Try to locate her clitoris - this is the mega power station of emotions... (Open the little lips of her cunt and travel up until they meet (the lips) there should be there an small organ (About 2-3 cm) - remember:Don't touch there to long - it is the most enjoying organ there, but it's not the only.

Don't forget to kiss her all the times. You can lick her tits nipples (not all the girls will let you doing so in that stage)Kiss her under her neck and lick her hear.

Continue touching her there. The lights are off, but try to look if her eyes are closed. If they are - she's enjoying. If not, continue patting her there - her eyes will be closed immediately.

Try to concentrate on her (girls like attention) but if she wants to pleasure you let her doing so. Remember - don't expect to much from her. You are the leader in the bed.

Try to give her an orgasm. A few minutes of direct squeezes at her clitoris will do. If it doesn't - ask her what will make her good there. Let her instruct you, but don't insist on it. If she has a serial of convulsions - she reached it (with your help of course). After that she will feel free to do it to you...

After the next meet she will take a talk with you. She'll say that she don't like what you've reached ("..I think we are getting to much close to it..."). Ask her "What do you afraid of?? You had fun didn't you? Look. I don't rowing anywhere. I don't know if I want to it yet (I mean full sex)". She'll be convinced. She won't start with it when you are doing so- she have to much pleasure...

You are both naked now, beside of your underwear (I hope). Now - lay on her. Curse the existence of your lower underwear - Loudly. Lay her on her back. Massage her for 10 minutes. Kiss her back. Now - Remove her underwear completely - she'll fill safe because she is on her stomach. (No danger of actual intercourse). Remove your pants. Lay on her (She still upside down -remember?) She will Probably feel great and hot. Rub your penis against her ass chicks. Say to her "would you like me to take some safety percations?". She'll say "What do you mean?" answer her: "I almost finished...". Pull a condom from somewhere (I bet it waited a long time...)and put it. Lay again over her and make some moves. Now - Rotate her so she'll lay on her back again. Lay over her. Fiddle with her cunt a little and try to insert your penis. If she'll say "don't insert" - say "ok", wait and retry.

If it doesn't enter, open her lips with your two hands and try again. If she is virgin, it will Probably hurt her a little so please be patient and if you are powerful, wait for the next meet. (In the next meet throw your parents of your house for the day). If it still hurts her, try to expend her virgin membrane with your fingers. (There IS a hole there - even if she is totally virgin. All you have to do is expend it a little).

What if it doesn't work - There are few possibilities:
- You tried to move too forward with not too much time.
- She's totally cold (Frigid). Find someone else.
- She isn't ready yet. Convince her. "What do you have to loose?" remember that you must make yourself credit from hers side
- She is afraid of pregnancy : Wait, or convince her that you will take a reliable anti-pregnancy device. (Tell her that you'll take condoms; If she's virgin, this is the only possibility).

If she is totally afraid, but want to try sexual intercourse, convince her to take anti-pregnancy pills. It is vey hard for anyone to admit befor a strange person that you're making sexual intercoures; try to understand. BTW, the doctors usually don't "insert hands" today. (They just test blood pressure and heart beat rate)

She will give you examples of girls that she READ about that used anti-pregnancy devices that failed; tell her "Did you hear about all the intercourses which didn't end with pregnancy ?" and "Why are you so negative about it? it's positive thing!"

- If all above fails and she still don't want it, wait. or....merry her...

All the procedure described here (From totally start) Should Take about 3 months. If you're thinking that you are moving to quick, slow the rate.

Available in Japan ages ago (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4076234)

This system was availale in Japan, for a very high price, ages ago.

It was demonstrated on the BBC TV program "Tomorrows World", and I believe it cost about 40,000 Yen each time you used it.

I think it's excellent.

Paranoia (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4076240)

Is there an untapped paranoia market? Is there money to be made playing on peoples fears?

Re:Paranoia (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4076284)

sure, sell tinfoil hats.

for 399.99 (2, Informative)

reshu-wan-kenobi (599205) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076243)

You too can have a device any smart kid would leave at home..

Re:for 399.99 (2)

Jondor (55589) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076296)

yeah, or have an "accident"..

Re:for 399.99 (2)

EnderWiggnz (39214) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076325)

or just leave it at "billy's house" and then go off an create mischief...

Re:for 399.99 (2)

Ian Wolf (171633) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076384)

I think that is why they put a lock on it. Also so that Joe Likesmallchildren can't take it off either.

Easy to Defeat (1)

LaNMaN2000 (173615) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076247)

If the subjects of this monitoring know that the location of the cell phone/pager is being tracked, then they will merely leave their cell-phone where they are supposed to be. Unless the parent/employer calls every so often to ensure that the subject is actually carrying the device with him, then it is all but useless, as the subject can go anywhere he pleases while the device reports that he is where he is supposed to be.

Re:Easy to Defeat (1)

paladino (156081) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076330)

If people would read the information provided you would see that the thing LOCKS! onto your wrist and can not be unlocked by the kid. It can be unlocked by the parent remotely via the web or with the provided key fob device. Read people Read.

Re:Easy to Defeat (2)

AndrewHowe (60826) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076386)

Oh yeah and I bet it has an uncuttable wrist strap too. Seriously, this thing is junk. I mean, I have one of those Casio GPS watches, but at least I know it's a gimmick...

Re:Easy to Defeat (2)

Ian Wolf (171633) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076503)

Look at the statistics of car alarms and "The Club". They do not eliminate theft, they mitigate it. Professionals and people hell bent on stealing your car WILL steal your car. Joyriders will keep looking.

The same goes for the watch. I'm sure it isn't easy to cut the band, but I gurantee it can be done. If the motive is kidnapping for profit, then they are going to grab your kid no matter what. The random sexual predator however, is going to go for an easy mark. If you don't believe that just read your local paper and see how many aborted kidnappings happen because the kid squirmed away or started screaming. Most of these perpetrators are not persistent, patient maybe, but not persistent.

Pagers are so 20th century. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4076256)

Pagers are so 20th century.


I think this was (1)

cbensinger (127227) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076262)

posted several months back.

I do think it's got it's potential uses; but I'm guessing it's too expensive to really get any kind of market and if that turns out to be the case how long will the service be around?

I wonder... (2)

Pig Hogger (10379) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076263)

I wonder how many of those devices will be forgotten on city buses...

Or better, just drop one into a Greyhound bus bound for the other coast...

similar technology (1)

carpe_noctem (457178) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076273)

This technology isn't really new, but it is the first time that I've heard of it being used with humans. My mom, who breeds show dogs, has told me about people that "chip" their dogs with a small GPS microchip that can be used to track the animal in case of theft or escape. Unfortunately, the chips are not very strong (due to power concerns, one wouldn't want the dog to have to carry a giant battery on its collar), so the broadcasting range is rather weak. That is to say, if you want to find the lost animal, you already need to have some general idea where it went. And while I'm not too hot on the idea of "chipping" people, it probably wouldn't help if one of your employees went AWOL or your kid decided to join the circus.

Not so (2)

jockm (233372) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076390)

The chips [] placed in pets do not have GPS. They are passive transmitters that use the energy from the reader to broadcast back a simple ID. The range of the largest reader we have at the shelter I volunteer at is less than a foot.

That being caid chipping your pets is a "Good Thing" and is one of the most effective things you can do to help ensure you will recover your pet if it gets lost.

Re:similar technology (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4076410)

I'm pretty sure the chip you refer to is not GPS based. rather, it's like the RFID tags that you would find in a supermarket or music store to track inventory (or shoplifters). They are implanted in the back leg of an animal (or sometimes the shoulder) and are passive until you run a wand over them. Then they emit a unique ID and you can prove that it is your pet or not. Kinda like etched serial numbers in auto glass. This is useful not just in theft cases, but also if someone is stupid enough to implant one and then abandon their pet or let it get run over. The vet can ID it from the database and notify the owner/police. As for humans, they actually have a prototype version in trials, but I forget how far along it actually is.

medical/emergency workers (1)

andrewdcs (549164) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076274)

This is a good thing for emergency workers/medical staff etc. (if they'd agree to it first, not as spyware) As part of their contract (maybe with a bonus) they could agree to be on "location based call" at certain times, if an accident happens near them emergency services will know not only who is on call but who is nearest/most useful? An location based extension of a beeper. Cops could use it too, instead of calling all cars, call whos near on the Bat scan.

Re:medical/emergency workers (2)

Ian Wolf (171633) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076548)

I think, meaning I'm too lazy to look, that some Police departments already use GPS in their cars.

This made me think of another use, albeit a niche use. It could seriously aid rescue workers looking for a child in a burning building.

Chip'em!!! (2)

Neck_of_the_Woods (305788) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076280)

Think this is wild, what about the family down in south Florida that got CHIPED with the ADSX chips that hold your medical records. They also have batteries that suck the heat away from your body to produce energy to run. Within the they believe they will have GPS in them. All this in a chip the size of a piece of rice. They are putting them in everything from Dogs to Cattle, and people are next....Lost your kid? Here, that little rug rat is on your handy dandy webpage, via gps...

Anyway, as much big brother as this screams I think parents are going to jump all over the Applied Digital Solutions [] chip. It is just a matter of time.

expensive pet tracker (1)

bensej (79049) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076281)

Since as others have pointed out a kid would just leave it at home by "accident" or leave it where they are supposed to be the only good use I can see would be as a pet tracker if you have a dog that likes to run off.

haX0rD P/-\g3rZ (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4076287)

Yeah, and within a month of this becoming popular kids will be able to hack their pager to always report them being at the library, the peach pit, or church.

Things wrong (2)

CaffeineAddict2001 (518485) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076297)

1) That's pretty expensive, considering children loose EVERYTHING. 2) I could see children being mugged because someone wants to steal these watches.

Re:Things wrong (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4076338)

2) I could see children being mugged because someone wants to steal these watches.

Except it would be pretty easy to find out who the mugger is, don't you think? Even muggers arn't that dumb, they'd catch on pretty quickly.

Re:Things wrong (1)

yatest5 (455123) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076402)

2) I could see children being mugged because someone wants to steal these watches

Yeah, I can think of soooooooo many reasons why muggers would want a device that would allow parents / the police to track them!

Furthermore, without the locator doobrie, it's going to be pretty useless isn't it?

Re:Things wrong (2)

CaffeineAddict2001 (518485) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076422)

Not who, maybe where. But I suspect like most electronic devices it has a battery that can be taken out, or have the GPS disabled,so you can pawn off essentially a junk watch giving people the illusion that its tracking thier kids.

Re:Things wrong (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4076495)

Well once you know "Where" its usually pretty easy to figure out "Who". I.e. the crack house down the street? Then its probably the crack head who lives there!

As for disabling the GPS, how many muggers do you know who have a degree in E.E. and could actually do that?

Does anyone remember that scene in _Casino_... (2)

hyacinthus (225989) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076311)

...where Ace Rothstein (Robert DeNiro) gives his faithless, alcoholic wife Ginger (Sharon Stone) a beeper to keep track of her after she'd run out for the umpteenth time? Anyone who's seen the movie knows how well _that_ worked.


Re:Does anyone remember that scene in _Casino_... (0)

h0mer (181006) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076512)

Not to mention the pager was the size of a brick. That was pretty high technology in that era though.

Wherify wireless device discussed earlier (2)

Goonie (8651) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076312)

here [] . Still have grave reservations on using it on anybody competent enough to understand what it is.

Super geek-on-the-playground toy (1)

Gudlyf (544445) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076313)

"Don't punch me again Dougy, or I'll push my panic button and my dad will come get you!"

Re:Super geek-on-the-playground toy (2)

Maran (151221) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076506)

Sounds like Bart's second-hand "Ultimate" belt.

"Help! Help! Help! Help!"

"Can't you read?! Call the police!" Thwack.


Tracking your employees, children... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4076314)

Why would children even have employees? This is very strange.

More developer opportunities (1)

SL33Z3 (104748) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076316)

The next question is this. You can track where your kids are. But I wonder how long it will be before someone comes up with an alert system that tells you if kids go someplace you don't allow them to. Can you imagine going to a website and setting location boundaries, then getting a cell-phone alert if your kids cross those boundaries?

Re:More developer opportunities (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4076377)

Oh, kind of like a NetNanny for actual places? And you can have your selection of banned locations, e.g., sexually oriented, violent, satanic/cult, etc.?

Re:More developer opportunities (1)

f00zbll (526151) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076403)

This has already been done by several companies as research projects. For example GPS messaging. I worked on something similar, though we weren't targetting kids/parents. Our idea was cheating husbands and wives.

No amount of technology is going to make a bad parent become a good one. Teenagers are smart and will find ways to get around it. Really, if some kid wants to go outside the boundaries, they could easily pay a classmate to sit at a cafe for 4 hours while they go party. Given that phones can forward the calls to another phone, what's to stop a group of kids getting a phone to share? Think about it. Say you have a group of teens whose parents are very strict. A group of them pool their money together to buy a phone. They all meet at a burger joint, friends house, cafe or where ever. They have all their phones set to forward the calls. If the parents call, they cover for each other. One person watches the phones in one location and it looks like the kids are where they're supposed to be.

Of course, one could use more high tech methods to get around it, but why bother when lo-tech method works just fine.

You guys are missing the point... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4076321)

Considering the rash of high-profile abductions plaguing the US of late, this sort of thing is a concerned parent's dream come true.

Stop thinking stalking your teens, start thinking Amber Alerts.

Re:You guys are missing the point... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4076369)

" Considering the rash of high-profile abductions plaguing the US of late..."

Hmmm...someone might want to check into the backgrounds of these abductors and see if there's any connection to this company.

Re:You guys are missing the point... (1)

YrWrstNtmr (564987) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076474)

These abductions are high-profile only because they are on TV. No more or less lately than there have been for ages.

Kids need freedom. Within limits, but freedom to explore.

As far as employees, if one chooses to go AWOL, so be it. He'll come back to an empty desk. If I can't trust him to be where he is supposed to be, I can't trust him with the companies money or clients.

Re:You guys are missing the point... (1)

Captain Zion (33522) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076501)

Of course, the only real solution for this case is to build a city wall. (Someone call the City Wok guy please.)

Repeat (1)

mattyohe (517995) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076322) l

The disussion was mostly /.'ers sharing anticdotes about getting lost as a child, and how this tool is a "Godsend". Others stated that parents want their kid to "handle themselves outdoors".

but at the end of the day... repeat

Uhmmm say what ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4076327)

Shouldn't parents just raise their children ? They wouldn't need these kind of devices if they were real parents.. Just like those parenting classes for mums and dads that don't know what to do with a kid. This is so USA. Just another sign of the US breaking apart ... in 25 years it will be just a country full of really fat dumb arrogant people with no education and no parenting skills because their parents were dumb as well. The US thinks it's all that but they've become a big fat kid. They think they own the world but the world is getting more and more fed up with 'em.. And rightfully so.

old (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4076345)

we've had that offered to consumers for ages in finland, don't even think it costs alot more...
anyway.. it has some potential when thinking that everyone here over 10 years basicly has a mobile phone.. so for them it can be nice that the parents can check where their children are..

OMG (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4076349)

Did anyone else read that as tracking your
employee's children?

I need more caffine

The device LOCKS onto your wrist. (5, Informative)

paladino (156081) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076356)

If people would read the information provided you would see that the thing LOCKS! onto your wrist and can not be unlocked by the kid. There would be no "leaving it at home" or "putting it were you are suposed to be". It can be unlocked by the parent remotely via the web or with the provided key fob device. Read people Read.

Re:The device LOCKS onto your wrist. (3, Funny)

oyenstikker (536040) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076541)

Well, you see, I was watching Johnny's dad fix his car, and he dropped the propane torch, and it went right by my arm. Luckily, the gizmo was there to protect my arm, but it got wrecked. Then, wouldn't you believe it? I tripped over a lug nut, and fell, and the gizmo, being weakened from the heat, got bent. So then we were playing baseball, see, and I got hit by a pitch, which broke it the rest of the way off!

Ideal time to market this! (1)

Corporate Troll (537873) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076357)

Since there seem to be two teenage girls missing in the UK, it really is an ideal time to market tracking devices for you children. Never forget: "Think of the children".

Re:Ideal time to market this! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4076418)

The kids are missing. There is no seem about it.

Great concept but... (2, Informative)

Jesus IS the Devil (317662) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076358)

I had this same idea a while back... but then found the real problem:

GPS signals are way too weak to be of any use in real-life situations. Go inside a building and the signal dies. Go under some trees and it's one. Heck even state of the art GPS receivers require a 30-second interval to get its initial coordinates.

Re:Great concept but... (2)

AndrewHowe (60826) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076471)

Yes, and futhermore the batteries are not going to last long. My wristwatch GPS is supposed to do about 70 readings or something. Then I have to recharge it. You certainly don't leave it getting constant readings... Bye bye battery! Add the fact that this thing has to act as a pager too...

Window of opportunity (3, Insightful)

theRhinoceros (201323) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076360)

The window of usefulness for a device like this, IMO, is bounded by two things:

-the lower boundary being the age where a child can reliably keep this thing on all day without messing with it, taking it off, or letting somebody "borrow" it

-the upper boundary being the age where the child is savvy enough to put a bit of distance between him/herself and the device.

If your child is young and loose enough to warrant a $400 tracking device, perhaps your parenting techniques need to be reconsidered. If your child is older and warrants a tracking device, he/she will soon figure out a way to defeat it, whether by losing it, throwing it away, etc. Older children who do not want to be tracked will find a way not to be tracked. The window of age where this device will be an effective tracking solution is pretty narrow, as I see it.

Re:Window of opportunity (2)

sheriff_p (138609) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076526)

It's great to see you took the time to read the product description!

Now, while I'm not saying it's not possible to take the device off, if you put a lot of time and energy into it, the device is specifically made to be difficult to take off or cut off. Attempts to do so will trigger the alarm feature.

- Young kids will have trouble letting someone borrow it without parental permission or loosing a hand

- Older kids who try and remove it will find it triggers an alarm to let their parents know. Nice try.

Your last paragraph seems to be a little strange ... are you saying that parents should watch their children 24 hours a day? Seems a little unfeasible, I think, but maybe you've figured out a way not to sleep.

Not too new in the US, either. (4, Informative)

budalite (454527) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076367)

There is at least one company, SAIC, that has been installing a similar mobile product in American utility trucks for a few years. It tracks the trucks 24/7. Utility Repair/Installation Efficiency has risen dramatically in response. The Union agreed to the idea only, if I remember rightly, after the Utility agreed to include (and require) an emergency call button on a seperate keychain for the Techs.
(Disclaimer: Used to work for SAIC.)

Two things about "child abductions" (5, Insightful)

TheConfusedOne (442158) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076376)

First off, despite the recent spait of publicity about child abductions, well over 90% of them are by family members. So, they either probably have the code to turn this thing off or it isn't on the kid when they're taken.

Second, GPS signals and wireless signals are quite easy to block. GPS doesn't work indoors and the most common place to lose a child is a large department store or mall. So, it doesn't do you any good there.

Finally, battery life. How long will this thing run before recharges? If it doesn't last long then you can just wrap some tinfoil around the thing to block the GPS signal and wait for the battery to die.

Though, you have to admire how quicly companies can market to the latest paranoia.

Re:Two things about "child abductions" (2)

sheriff_p (138609) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076562)

90% of them are by family memebers

I don't know where you got this statistic, but, let's assume it's true. Your argument is a little like saying:

"90% of car crashes are non-fatal, thus airbags are pointless"

Yes, it's conceivably possible to block off the GPS signal and wait for the battery to die. Assuming your child's abductor knows the child wears it, knows what it is, and knows how the GPS signal can be blocked. Even with these assumptions, it's still then possible to get the last location of the child before the signal went black, and thus probably where they were abducted. Perhaps you think this is useless information?

Great.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4076379)

Just what my boss always wanted, an electronic leash.

or perhaps even... (2)

MarvinMouse (323641) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076380)

Tracking your employee's children. :-)

I've already got something that can track my kids (if I had any) it's called a large network of friends in my city.

Re:or perhaps even... (2)

vr (9777) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076475)

sounds kewl. is there an RFC for this network? what's the protocol called? does it run over TCP/IP?

For my staff! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4076381)

I can strap these on my staff and find out how many times they use the bathroom! I wonder if I can write a script that will deduct that time out of the payroll system....

employees and/or children (1)

pizza_milkshake (580452) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076393) several asian countries your employees and children could be the same people! *ba dum bum*

Osama (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4076398)

We should have given one to Osama a couple of years ago as a gift... darn it darn it darn it

Tracking Your Employees, Children (1)

kubrick (27291) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076423)

There are children out there with employees? And here I am, self-employed and contracting at 28, no-one working under me. Some days I just feel old...

Friendfinder (2)

zyklone (8959) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076430)

The main ISP/Phone Company here in Sweden, Telia, have had that service for a while now.

Basically you can enable a service which lets your friends locate your phone. The triangulation part is not working yet I think. But the location of the closest GSM station is usually enough to find someone.

It's SMS/WAP based and can be enabled and disabled easily. It could ofcourse be used by corporations also, they would just have to require the employees to have the service on at all times.

implants, dammit! (1)

fermion (181285) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076436)

This is kind of like those collars you put on dogs and cats to keep them from leaving the yard. It may be a technically good idea, but it is a matter of minutes before the animal will have the collar off and eat it. The same thing should be expected with kids. I am pretty sure the expectation value of the time between the kid leaving the house and the device leaving the kid would be measured in nanoseconds. Likewise, reasonably intelligent employees will just leave the tracking phone in the office while he or she goes out for the afternoon affair. Although there are some security reasons for both technologies, I think either group, in most cases, would resist.

Never fear, though, a solution exists and it come from the vet. We must all be implanted with microtransmitters. The sales of receivers will strictly limited to parents and employers. The receivers will be set so they can only track the intended parties, and the settings will be protected with the latest quantum crypto chaos based advanced pseudo mathematical encryption that will keep all hackers at bay. The DCMA will be used to prosecute receiver hackers and surgeons that remove the transmitter.

Oh, how safe the world will be.

Nice idea... (1)

Bowdie (11884) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076439)

Get children used to wearing trakcing devices early. That way, it'll just be the norm when they're grown up.

Tin hats on people.

Oh wonderful world (2)

Ektanoor (9949) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076440)

Well this device may look pretty cool. But every technology has its double uses...

First we get it to the kids so they don't get lost or abducted... Pretty and nice toy that kids love to carry.
Then we keep track of teenagers and where they get lost by night and if they go to school... We stick a superminiature device to their shoes...
Later your boss keeps track of your wanderings and why you get late to work... All under a new fresh product "Window to worker(TM)" sold by another politically correct privacy corp...

That's right folks! (1)

medraut (136992) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076441)

Gone are the days of needless parenting, where watching your child's every move consumed most of your day. For a limited introductory price of $399.99 we will introduce you to a world of reasonability-free parenting, where a touch of the button will allow little Johnny's whereabouts to be transmitted to every paedophile in the area.

Does anyone know what kind of security is in place to prevent tapping of such information? The last thing I would want is some freak 'sniffing' the location of my children. It makes me think of a predator following the scent of it's prey.


Misread title (1)

voicebox (516987) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076443)

I read the title as "Children, Track Your Employees" and I wondered why children would employ anyone...

look FIRE! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4076444)

"Hong Kong has launched what's believed to be Asia's first location-based service which enables companies to locate their employees via their mobile phones signals."

You mean slaves.

AC wuz her

First? (2, Informative)

BJH (11355) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076467)

Japan's had phones with similar functionality for at least three years... there's a version for children that allows the parents to find out where the phone is via fax.

Chldren != people (2, Insightful)

LAI (166400) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076489)

This is great. Put your kid on a leash, monitor him electronically, follow his every movement. Why be half-assed about it? Just tag your child like livestock so they can't just "forget" their tracking device somewhere. Are children really denied any human rights that interfere with their parents' plans?

A kid can't pursue happiness if their particular brand of happiness conflicts with their parents' wishes. Think of the standard example of a kid who is gay, and whose parents are religious or otherwise intolerant. Generally what happens is the kid either represses his normal, healthy urges and becomes miserable or rebels against his parents, often being punished for it, often hating his folks for the rest of his life.

A kid can't pursue liberty if his parents don't want him to. A kid (with this or any other tracking device) doesn't have the privacy [] that we all strive for [] all the time. The implication is that a child's life is not his own. He is free to live his life until his parents decide he's stepping on their toes or they decide they don't agree with the way he feels about stuff.

Kids' right to life is a whole big bucket o' worms, so I won't go into that -- but you get the idea.

There seems to be a pervasive attitude (not just in North America) that until we reach the age of majority we are not fully human. Speaking in American terms, two of the so-called "self-evident" and "unalienable" rights are waived or subjected to editing according to what the child's parents think.

Security/privacy concerns... (2)

bigmouth_strikes (224629) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076493)

Service provider - The Pinpoint Company - insists there'll be no breach of privacy if it is used properly.

Duh! I hate to be the one suggesting it but what if - and believe me this is entirely hypocri^H^H^Hthetical - someone isn't using it "properly" ?

Serisouly, the concern would ofcourse be that it might allow tracking of people who are now aware of it. Although it doesn't mention much of the technical side in the article, I doubt that the technology requires more than software in the phone system. This means that in the wrong hands, any phone could be tracked.

Still, it'd be cool to install it in your car so you could track that when it's stolen.

Long overdue (1)

maunleon (172815) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076500)

Maybe it will keep the cops from parking their butts for hours at the donut shop next to my freeway exit!

Come to think of it, Krispy Kreme could start their own network aimed at law enforcement. All you'd have to do is call them and ask for "Officer Jones" and in 30 seconds or less he'll be located at one of their branches. If he's not there, he can still get the message when he walks in within 15 minutes. Ah.. who needs this HK high tech thing.

Cool Use for tracking your stuff (0)

bafreer (592306) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076502)

Maybe if just a tracking component comes down to the $25 range I'd buy a few. I've always wanted to be able to plop them in my car, computer, and anything else of value. If you hide it well enough, no one will even find it until it gets to the chop-shop. oh, shi...


As a parent... (2)

conan_albrecht (446296) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076546)

As a parent of small girls, I welcome this technology. We watch our kids like hawks. They are never more than 5 feet from us. So why would I welcome something like this? Because it's one more level of security.

3 years ago we were at sea world and I was watching my 3 year old on their giant playground. She went behind a slide and disappeared. I immediately ran over to find her, and she was gone. My heart sank. 30 minutes later my wife and I found her 1/4 mile from where we had lost her.

So say all you want about "well, the parent should be watching the child." Blah. Things happen. Kids run. I'd love to have something to help me find them.

That said, an even better technology would be one that would use short-distance (0-5 miles) wireless and simply point in the direction of my child's signal. That would be even more helpful when they wander unexpectedly at sea world or wal-mart or...

Get off your high horses. After all we can do, parents still need help sometimes.

like that AT&T labs thing (2)

AssFace (118098) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076550)

I can recall when VNC was still on the AT&T labs site and they had this other thing that I thought was really cool and also really disturbing.

You would wear a tag on your shirt, presumably part of an id badge system already in place (or not). In that badge was... something magic - I'd assume a chip of somesort and maybe a transmitter.
Then using the gridwork of a hanging ceiling, you would setup monitors at central places in each room (or several over large spaces).
Then this would talk to your servers... or maybe the servers would talk to it... whatever.

The end result was you could finger someone and it would say where in the building they were - even with the ability for a graphical system as well (technically could even tie into a camera system, but that wasn't something they showed).
So you could be sitting in a meeting, waiting for Larry (Larry is always late, that bastard), and then on your laptop there finger Larry and see that he is in the kitchen and has been there for 3 hours... perhaps Larry had a heart attack and is lying there dead (or just took off his id badge there and ran away, frolicking merrily in fields of poppies... you know, those fields that are near all offices).
You could also finger rooms and see all the people in that room - so you could finger the bathroom and see who is in there, or who is gathering around the water cooler.

That alone made me want to start a company. Just to dick around with that.

This is nothing new... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#4076553)

An Icelandic company called TrackWell has a product that is in use in Iceland. It actually uses GSM signals....but it is close enough.

What about (ex)wives? (1)

redfenix (456698) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076554)

Sure wish I could have thrown one of these things into the (ex) wife's car when she was cheating on me.

the new threat (1)

Rumagent (86695) | more than 12 years ago | (#4076556)

Forget terrorism and bio weapons. This is the new threat. We are breeding our own demise. In a generation or two, the entire northern hemisphere will be reduced to a bunch of pussies wearing nothing but sensible shoes with matchings outfits.

With any luck I will be dead by then. /Rumagent
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