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Mozilla 1.1 Hits The Street

timothy posted more than 11 years ago | from the posted-with dept.

Mozilla 606

asa writes: "Mozilla 1.1 has arrived!. This release has many new features including full-screen mode for Linux, Mac MathML support, a redesigned JavaScript Debugger, new window icons for the different Mozilla applications, view selection source, display HTML mail as plaintext, and much more. Along with all the new features, Mozilla 1.1 also contains many improvements to performance, stability, standards support, and web site compatibility. You can get Mozilla 1.1 by visiting the mozilla.org releases page or directly from ftp at ftp.mozilla.org. Now that 1.1 is out the door, the focus moves to 1.2 alpha, and beyond. If you're confused as to how all of these releases relate to each other, be sure to check out the Mozilla Roadmap and the community hub over at mozillaZine.org."

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Pathetique (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147124)

But the frist pist is mine!

First? (-1, Troll)

whizzmo (239423) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147125)

lameness filters suck big ones

Great The best browser ever!!! (1, Funny)

mezzin (578393) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147126)

IE bits the dust!

Re:Great The best browser ever!!! (1)

leviramsey (248057) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147136)

Yes, Opera!

/me ducks

Re:Great The best browser ever!!! (1)

wheany (460585) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147217)

IE will bite the dust when they start bundling Mozilla with Windows.

Re:Mozilla ain't got no reliable SPELLING (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147266)

I sure wish this was the case. So far I've switched Sales Dept, Technical Services, and another dept. over to Open Office. Great so far. However, a few insist on using Outlook Express. So the problem is they can't spell. So we have to buy a $15 spelling thing plugin for OE.

What really sucks is I have to install Netscape 6.2.3 instead of Mozilla on many peoples computer. Why? Only one stupid reason. No spelling for Mozilla.

Before you say go download the free plugin. Been there done that. It crashes constantly and I tried it on 3 or 4 computers. Sorry but can't install freakin Mozilla for just that reason alone at my corporation. Wish I could...I really do. When is mozilla going to properly disply cdrinfom.com [cdrinfo.com] ?

I"m anonymous (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147127)

Yessir I am anonymous!

Increased website compatibility (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147129)

aka support. Boo! Hiss!

Re:Increased website compatibility (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147137)

aka support. grr boo hiss?

IT's most heartening (-1, Troll)

slashuzer (580287) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147132)

To see the OSS browsers like Opera and Mozilla take the fight to Micr0$oft.

The only problem is that Mozilla still requires a dual processor server to run at any reasonable pace. It's just too sluggish compared to IE. However, I am in no doubt that soon Mozilla will be better than IE. Infact, it already leads IE as far as features are concerned. Now, let's hurry to download :-)

Re:IT's most heartening (1)

sgifford (9982) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147147)

> To see the OSS browsers like Opera

Opera isn't open source at all.

Re:IT's most heartening (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147168)

Opera isn't open source at all.

Actually, it is... they coded it in machine language. That's why it's so fucking fast.

Re:IT's most heartening (1)

sgifford (9982) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147174)

:-)

Re:IT's most heartening (0)

slashuzer (580287) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147250)

To be very honest....Opera is fast but fast only by "other than IE" standards. Between Opera and IE, it's a tie on my system. But I use IE even though Opera gives more features.

...but does Java work? (0)

coolfrood (459411) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147133)

I hope they fixed Java though. I still can't get Java reliably on Mozilla on all sites. It's either SecurityException, or Java hangs, or weird behaviour with text fields. When will it work properly?

Re:...but does Java work? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147151)

When the sites stop being retarded and coding for the IE specific JRE...

Doing so is whats causing your problem, I can almost guarntee it

Re:...but does Java work? (2, Insightful)

short (66530) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147176)

This is not a flaw of Mozilla, it is a general non-crossplatformity of Java. Exactly according to the famous "Write once, test everywhere".
When I was bothering with Java in the past I had to implement various workarounds of existing JVM bugs, on each platform a different ones. Java applets would benefit a lot from autoconf(1). :-)

Re:...but does Java work? (2, Insightful)

leviramsey (248057) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147191)

Java applets would benefit a lot from autoconf(1)

Or from slow torture to the designers who required that a Java applet be there. Java applets are even worse than Flash, and that's gotta count for something.

great work (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147141)

ok, begin the 'i like opera' posts. But seriously, I love mozila, great browser, GREAT work guys! Thanks!

Re:great work (-1)

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM (537317) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147211)

Great work? It's been 10 years since the last version. That's called incompetence.

goatse (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147143)

goatzilla :)

Re:goatse (2, Funny)

leviramsey (248057) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147152)

Actually, judging from the number of gaping security holes, IE is the ultimate goatse browser.

I'd like to note that (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147144)

Monolinux, back from the grave, has scooped Slashdot yet again. [monolinux.com]

You can't beat monolinux, Taco and Co., you can only hope to contain us!

boot (1)

monotoy (577581) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147145)

seems to boot a *lil* bit faster (w2k version) (still too slow though). hopefully the osx one will too ...

Yeah (-1)

Klerck (213193) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147148)

And amazingly, it's still not worth using! IE6 blows away. Fuck Mozilla. Fuck it right up the nigger.

Re:Yeah (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147162)

What became of the PWP's?

I have been away from Slashdot and I miss them.

:o(

Fuck Slashdot form keys!

Re:Yeah (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147201)

Klerck's just mad because he can't widen Mozilla pages.

Re:Yeah (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147251)

Nice work with the Twin Towers petition. That one is currently doing the rounds via. office email...

Not complaining, but gave me two crash messages (2, Informative)

titansfreek (569067) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147149)

I love Mozilla, the browser and email client are awesome and so much better than anything else. But before it even finished starting it gave me to error messages about some DLL. Then enigmail is complaining at me too. And why are 2 mozilla shortcuts added to my desktop? A cool new feature: view selection source. You can select some text and view the source just for that piece of the page. And tabbed browsing still rocks. Control-click a link or after typing a URL in the location field to open it quickly in a new tab, or hit control-T to pop a new blank tab. I just wish you could control click on the links in your toolbar.

Re:Not complaining, but gave me two crash messages (1)

monotoy (577581) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147156)

i wish you could switch between tabs by keyboard shortcut! am i the only one? i'm waiting for something like like ctrl-tab since the introduction of tabbed browsing.

Re:Not complaining, but gave me two crash messages (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147163)

Ctrl+PgUp & Ctrl-PgDn.

Re:Not complaining, but gave me two crash messages (5, Informative)

snake_dad (311844) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147170)

Ctrl-pgup, and ctrl-pgdn under windows. ctrl-t for a new tab, ctrl-w to close one. Or use mouse gestures or piemenus.

Re:Not complaining, but gave me two crash messages (4, Informative)

Aanallein (556209) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147177)

i wish you could switch between tabs by keyboard shortcut!
ctrl-pageup and ctrl-pagedown do this. See the keyboard shortcuts [mozilla.org] .
And indeed, those shortcuts aren't really handy if you want to use a mouse, but I personally have quickly grown used to them. Who needs a mouse anyway? :)

Mod Parent Up! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147259)

I wish I had a mod point for you.
Best tip I've read all day.

Re:Not complaining, but gave me two crash messages (2, Informative)

sgifford (9982) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147165)

Search for bugs in Bugzilla for all of these things, and if there aren't already bugs file your own. Otherwise they'll never get fixed.

http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/

Re:Not complaining, but gave me two crash messages (3, Informative)

Aanallein (556209) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147185)

But before it even finished starting it gave me to error messages about some DLL. Then enigmail is complaining at me too.
Enigmail [mozdev.org] does indeed not work anymore - but a new enigmail build is released for each milestone (currently the last one is still for 1.1 beta), so I expect to see a working version within the next day or so; the developer(s) should definitely have been aware of the problem for several weeks now.

themes (1)

SystematicPsycho (456042) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147155)

before you could apply themes without rebooting, but that 'feature' has been taken away, why aren't there many themes either? can't be that hard?

Re:themes (2)

snake_dad (311844) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147181)

Come on, it isn't Internet-"Windows has detected a mousemove, please reboot"-Explorer! No reboots necessary, just restart the browser. Or maybe that was what you meant to type.

After installation... (5, Informative)

snake_dad (311844) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147158)

Check out the radial context menus [mozdev.org] or the mouse gestures [mozdev.org] . Look at edit->preferences->navigator->internet search, and edit->preferences->advanced->Scripts&Plugin s. And finally take a look at the preferences bar [xulplanet.com] to quickly enable or disable certain options. These are always the first things I install with any new Mozilla, release or nightly.

Re:After installation... (2)

madprof (4723) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147236)

Having upgraded from 1.0 to 1.1 Mozilla has kept those settings, so no need to go running around. It hasn't even wiped history or cleared the URL bar history.

Mozilla has good karma. (4, Interesting)

bjornte (536493) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147159)

I've been a Moz 1.0 user since it was launched, and I've been very pleased with it. Many nice touches, like tabbed browsing (try ctrl-shift-clicking), banning images from ad-serves, anti-popup and so on. Best of all, it manages all the security routines my internet bank throws at it.

Having downloaded Moz 1.1 the difference is not so great, as expected. Some minor bugs have vanished, like the frequent paralyzation of the http-input field.

In general, there is nothing IE can do for me that Moz can't. And Moz is just... a smoother ride. Plus it's got good karma. Recommended.

history (1)

monotoy (577581) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147167)

btw, what happened to the history manager? it seems to haven been removed w/ v1.0. why?

Re:history (1)

mitsuhama (587060) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147188)

try crtl-h

Re:history (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147189)

Menu: Go->History. Keyboard shortcut: ctrl-h. That what you're looking for?

This version is buggy (1)

pubjames (468013) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147169)


I use Mozilla as my main browser and like it a lot, but this version seems quite buggy, at least on Windows XP. Better stick to 1.0 for now.

Re:This version is buggy (2, Informative)

titansfreek (569067) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147206)

I think 1.1 fixes many of the glitches or bugs from 1.0, although it did have a glitch the first time I ran it. You might check out the forum at http://www.mozillazine.org/talkback.html?article=2 415 to discuss any issues you had installing or running the new version.

Is this version more buggy? (2)

StrawberryFrog (67065) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147213)

but this version seems quite buggy, at least on Windows XP

Eeep! this is not good news. I am using Mozilla 1.0 on WinXP. On a couple of occasions it has crashed, so I resorted to IE6, which worked just fine.

I was hoping that the 'Improved stability' (What's New in Mozilla 1.1) would have improved this. Anyone else have a perspective on this?

Re:Is this version more buggy? (1)

Joe Tie. (567096) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147268)

I've been using the 1.1 beta on Linux since it's release and haven't had any problems. I might just be lucky, but I'll often have mozilla running for three or more days at a time, and 1.1b has never crashed on me.

Re:This version is buggy (1)

madprof (4723) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147222)

Buggy how? I've just upgraded to 1.1 on XP so I'd be interested...

No Source!! (1)

dcstimm (556797) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147171)

Ugg this makes me so mad, everytime mozilla releases a new version the dont release the src until 72 hours later, its so annoying. I use gentoo and I like to just modify the old ebuild to download the new src, but if its not avalible I cant install it!

Gezz! Come on mozilla! I dont want the binaries I want the src!

But I cant wait!

Re:No Source!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147175)

use cvs:

cvs co -r MOZILLA_1_1_RELEASE mozilla/client.mk
cd mozilla
gmake -f client.mk checkout

Re:No Source!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147214)

use linux

Re:No Source!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147267)

You want the source ?
You are one of these "real" men ,aren't you ?
Running gentoo and everything ...

How fucking pathetic.

Re:No Source!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147291)

You want the source ?
You are one of these "real" men ,aren't you ?
Running gentoo and everything ...

How fucking pathetic.

I dont understand?

That's cool... (2, Funny)

netsharc (195805) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147173)

it took them forever to reach 1.0 (although the 0.9 releases were already really good), but now they're releasing a 1.1 after only a short time, and also working on a 1.2 Yeay Mozilla!

If not "Release early", "Release often!" :)

faggit (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147178)

fag@boy: uname -a

Mozilla Os 1.1 #1 Sun Aug 18 12:07:00 CEST 2002 i686 unknown

fag@boy: boot mozilla

Booting Mozilla OS version 1.1 ... Please standby ...

Re:faggit (1)

leviramsey (248057) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147196)

For the ultimate in pointlessness... get Mozilla to build in Emacs... then you can say you're running two OS's at the same time without VMWare or anyting similar.

Re:faggit (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147262)

Hmmm, XEmacs ported to XUL....the posibility is frightening! W3c in XEmacs on Mozilla, anyone?

Uhm..I must be an idiot.. (1)

Ricky M. Waite (544756) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147179)

..but the source tarball? I can't seem to find it anywhere.

Mozilla source here (2, Informative)

Novus (182265) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147275)

Try clicking "Get the Source" on the left side of the main Mozilla page, or follow this link [mozilla.org] .

Coverage for other browser projects as well (5, Interesting)

jukal (523582) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147180)

It is great, that Mozilla progresses and that Slashdot supports the work by directing traffic to their site. But I really hope that /. could give other and new browser projects coverage as well. Many of them [dmoz.org] have innovative ideas, and potential, and probably would not mind a few more volunteer developers. Slashdot is in great position to give these too the needed momentum. Why don't you release an article about one of them today already?

Re:Coverage for other browser projects as well (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147280)

Why don't you release an article about one of them today already?
Because those ones suck!

Thought you guys would like this (5, Funny)

dcstimm (556797) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147187)

Thought you guys would like this:-) http://linux.darylstimm.com/mozilla1280.jpg [darylstimm.com]

WARNING! GOATSE.CX LINK IN PARENT (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147207)

He's a sneaky one, he is, hosting the image himself.

Re:Thought you guys would like this (1)

dcstimm (556797) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147210)

why am I a troll? I made this for the mozilla guys.. I dont understand

Re:Thought you guys would like this (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147233)

i liked it :)

Re:Thought you guys would like this (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147230)

Oh now come on you jerk off Moderators, that was funny. THAT WAS NOT A TROLL

The only fucking trolls in this place are moderators without a sense of humour

Re:Thought you guys would like this (2)

Fweeky (41046) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147253)

It's a Gecko (well, a lizard at least) eating the Microsoft butterfly, no need to panic, moderators.

dcstimm: Blame your high userid (I didn't realise they'd hit half a million, heh) and moderators not bothering to check links. Although tbh I would have prefered it without the butterflies :)

Re:Thought you guys would like this (1)

dcstimm (556797) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147272)

check out linuxart.com

they have the real pic.

I was also mentioned on the front page so you can see the before and after pics! glad you liked it...

Re:Thought you guys would like this (-1, Troll)

dcstimm (556797) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147281)

WARNING! GOATSE.CX LINK IN PARENT (Score:1, Informative)

He gets troll for something funny and the troll gets Informative just because the moderators dont know how to click on a link...

Re:Thought you guys would like this (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147293)

Thought you guys would like this:-)

It's been my main wallpaper now since 1.1b. :)

But Mozilla still has some weaknesses (5, Funny)

norculf (146473) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147192)

1.1 is still a very immature version, compared to the Internet Explorer family of technologies, which is currently in version 6.x and still being improved daily.

When will Mozilla feature speedier web browsing, and better integration with best-of-breed Microsoft products such as MSN messenger and Outlook XP?

A theme that more closely matches the award winning Windows look-and-feel would also be helpful.

Re:But Mozilla still has some weaknesses (1)

Slurm-V (513189) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147254)

The day I can open all my news sites with one click, I might look back. Might.

Re:But Mozilla still has some weaknesses (2)

iapetus (24050) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147292)

Um. If I understand what you're saying, then you're looking for Multizilla [mozdev.org] , a tabbed browsing enhancement for Mozilla. You can open a folder full of links as multiple tabs in a Mozilla window with a single click, or set it up to open them on launch.

Time to switch?

Re:But Mozilla still has some weaknesses (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147274)

IE improving daily? is this opensource? the only thing not improving is the amount of security holes.

Breaks Galeon? (1)

Xpilot (117961) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147195)

Will installing this break Galeon?

Re:Breaks Galeon? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147239)

yes, you will need to recompile galeon against the latest version.

Re:Breaks Galeon? (0)

gsergiu (585096) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147245)

well, because Galeon version X works with mozilla version Y. Thats always been the case. If u look at the galeon page u see that it states: mozilla Y compatibility/requirement .
If you install mozilla Y and not Galeon that works with that version of mozilla, it won't work. Thats why i wait for the next release of galeon, before grab my hand on the new mozilla. Galeon it's the best and i know it's worth waiting.

Ad blocking features please (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147202)

Here's the feature I want most: The ability to specify a list of url patterns to never ever under any circumstances visit, such as http://www.doubleclick.net/*, or http://www.foo.com/ads/*, etc. Why can't we have a feature like that? I'm aware of proxies like junkbusters but they break some pages. This should be integrated into the browser to work right.

Re:Ad blocking features please (1)

Aanallein (556209) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147257)

There are several bugs on pattern matching image blocking - and one of them has a patch. The contributor commented that he was going to rewrite that patch, and that this might be a while - but work definitely _is_ being done on this, and with a bit of luck we should still see it by 1.2

Debian packages? (1)

sapone (152094) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147208)

Damn, Mozilla 1.1 is out since yesterday, and there are *still* no packages in Debian/unstable. ...Want...Mozilla....Now...! :-)

If I install a tar.gz now, I'll break my fine packaging system. :-(

Re:Debian packages? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147231)

"Damn, Mozilla 1.1 is out since yesterday, and there are *still* no packages in Debian/unstable....Want...Mozilla....Now...!:-)"

Big baby! Wait for galeon.

"If I install a tar.gz now, I'll break my fine packaging system.:-( "

No it won't.

C.

Re:Debian packages? (-1)

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM (537317) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147238)

People using Debian have been incested by their father at a young age. What you need is not a
packaging system, but a therapy with a good shrink.

Re:Debian packages? (1)

norculf (146473) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147265)

The maintainer probably hasn't finished compiling it yet. It's not like donating his time to work on Debian pays for Athlon XP 2600 based compile farms...

I agree with the packaging system thing. There should be a dpkg based install command that does the normal install procedure, but creates a pseudopackge that can be removed or manipulated at will (although removing is the only function I can think of that would work properly without a lot of extra dicking around on the part of the user).

popup windows? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147209)

"The connection was refused when attepting to contact " How do you stop this window coming up? I've got the a certain in my /etc/hosts file..

so for the idiots... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147212)

Can I "update" Mozilla 1 to 1.1 w/o the obligatory uninstallation of v1 then installation of v1.1...
then follow with the time consuming preference settings?

Also, anyone knows how to increase the time out for image downloading in mozilla?

These must be FAQs but they are not answered yet...
Any pointer is appreciated :)

Re:so for the idiots... (3, Informative)

Aanallein (556209) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147248)

Can I "update" Mozilla 1 to 1.1 w/o the obligatory uninstallation of v1 then installation of v1.1...
then follow with the time consuming preference settings?
You still have to uninstall 1.0 before installing 1.1 - or at least install 1.1 in a different directory than 1.0
However, uninstalling 1.0 doesn't remove your profile - all your preferences will remain and can be used with 1.1 without any problems.
Just make sure not to switch back and forth between 1.0 and 1.1 while using the same profile...

Download From Gnutella (1)

Anenga (529854) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147216)

If your really cool, you'll download Mozilla through Gnutella using Shareaza [shareaza.com] .

I've included four sources in this MAGNET URI link, so when you click it you can download a chunk of the file off each of them! I even added myself as a source. And if everyone shares, we can all download the file of peers instead of the servers!

magnet:?xt=urn:sha1:M3UDEZTSE2UK7C6BC2EYF5VFN6N3 DB SJ&dn=mozilla-win32-1.1-installer.exe&xs=http%3A// 12.240.86.81%3A6346/uri-res/N2R%3Furn%3Asha1%3AM3U DEZTSE2UK7C6BC2EYF5VFN6N3DBSJ&xs=http://ftp.mozill a.org/pub/mozilla/releases/mozilla1.1/mozilla-win3 2-1.1-installer.exe&xs=http://archive.progeny.com/ mozilla/releases/mozilla1.1/mozilla-win32-1.1-inst aller.exe&xs=http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/packages/i nfosystems/WWW/clients/mozilla/releases/mozilla1.1 /mozilla-win32-1.1-installer.exe

Copy and Paste it in Shareaza under "Tools -> Download URL".

Oh the Power of Gnutella!

Re:Download From Gnutella (1)

Anenga (529854) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147227)

Just To Let You Know, that is the Win32 version. Perhaps someone else can karma-whore a Linux/Mac MAGNET URI up.

Here we go again? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147224)

Be advised that as of 0600 EDT, the md5 hash on the MD5SUMS file at the ftp site does not match what the contents of the file says it should be.

'find.com' bug (1)

fearlezz (594718) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147226)

Okay, cool. The bug in the side bar has been removed. :) Whenever you open the google sidebar, it won't open find.com (which redirects to apps5.oingo.com) any more.

Now I just wish Macromedia would release a FlashMX player for Linux.

new GNOME 2 Webbrowser ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147228)

Look at this Thread which I found some hours ago. It looks like someone is doing a new GNOME native Webbrowser which supports Gtkhtml2. Looks promising.

Please Look here! [gnomedesktop.org]

the church and the marketplace (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147240)

Mozilla has proved that just putting out the source is not enough. It has to be simple enough for other programmers to pick up. Sadly, that is why linux has so many programmers---because it's so simple-minded and toyish. We need to stop the hype and refocus on advancing the state of the art, not reimplementing what's already in BSD. Switch to BSD today!

Mozilla is _bad_ (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147263)

I must say, as a daily browser mozilla is unusable.
I have a celeron 600mhz 320 mb ram, mozilla is slow, dead slow.
Im not talking html rendering here, its fast. But rather everything else but the rendering.

Gods own browser. [sourceforge.net]

Mozilla is _bad_ so is Galeon (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147273)

yeah but galeon is basically nothing else than a frontend to mozilla.

respect to the galeon developers but glueing something infront to mozilla may make it look better but it is definately not the way to go.

Look for 1.2beta tommorow! (2)

Ben Jackson (30284) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147270)

Well, exactly 24 hours ago I upgraded to 1.1beta because bugzilla claimed it fixed a problem I was having with IFRAME. Now 1.1 is out, and I downloaded it while I was writing this comment. At this rate you should save your bandwidth, and look for 1.2b tommorow night!

Also I predict a low chance of rain tommorow, since I did not wash my car. I will keep you posted.

Answer me this. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147282)

I love mozilla first off (and its offspring), but at what point are the developers going stop adding new crap and just focus on fixing bug's?

What I'd love to see them do is take a few months off mozilla 1.x etc. and fix the bugs in the trunk, and releasing mozilla 1.0.x and/or 1.1.x builds as the bugs get fixed. then restarting the project with 1.x builds or something like this.

You know you got to rethink things when mozilla is using 200MB's of ram!

That funky graph (4, Interesting)

Zaffle (13798) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147283)

I just want to know what program they used to generate that funky [mozilla.org] milestone graph. Anyone know?

Why I like Mozilla (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4147288)

The best part of Mozilla is that it easy enough for Negroes, yet visually
pleasing to the homosexuals. It appeals to the whole spectrum of deviancy.

Not Quite Finmished yet (2, Interesting)

Nailer (69468) | more than 11 years ago | (#4147289)

Unpackaged tarballs are the tool of the devil. Other applications rely on Mozilla and I'm not going to install an unpackaged version and then have to force install every other package that relies on it, and deal with a nonstandard install, uninstall and query routine.

I'm going to run away and try and cook up some Linux packages, so I can have myself a nice little LSB-compliant RPM.

If you beat me to it, post a URL to this page...

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