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Ripping Vinyl Via Your Scanner?

chrisd posted about 12 years ago | from the wax-cylinders-are-next dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "This site describes a method of extracting audio off of scanned images of vinyl records. Kazaa vinyl swapping is on it's way!" While this method creates exceptionally noisy samples, you can definitely hear the underlying music.

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cool fucking hack (0)

Breakfast Pants (323698) | about 12 years ago | (#4204236)

what more can I say, impressive.

Re:cool fucking hack (1)

BeyondALL (248414) | about 12 years ago | (#4204373)

Yepps - this cool trick proves that there is absolutely NO way to make a completely "Copyright-protected" recording of any kind. Nomater what you do - people like this witch has so much time to waste can rip them of ;-)

Re:cool fucking hack (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4204397)

Nothing of the sort has been proven, fool.

Virile records? (2, Funny)

Perianwyr Stormcrow (157913) | about 12 years ago | (#4204237)

Does that exclude Kenny G?

Re:Virile records? (4, Funny)

matthewn (91381) | about 12 years ago | (#4204307)

No no: Kenny G albums would be vile .

sorry no mod points (1)

turbosk (73287) | about 12 years ago | (#4204395)

funniest thing i've seen in a while.
thx for making my day :)

i saw this guy on johnny carson who could tell you what record he was holding without looking at the label, only the groove pattern. he could only do classical, but sometimes you hafta specialise.

reminds me also of the trick question "how many grooves on a LP?"

pax out

what's next? (5, Funny)

joejoejoejoe (231600) | about 12 years ago | (#4204241)

A device that can extract 1000 words from a picture?

Re:what's next? (-1, Offtopic)

asdfasdfasdfasdf (211581) | about 12 years ago | (#4204267)

Why did this guy get modded down--? it's hysterical.!

Re:what's next? (-1, Offtopic)

Buck2 (50253) | about 12 years ago | (#4204403)

He got modded down because moderators, in general, are a bunch of humorless assholes. That's why.

I still don't understand why anyone would be so arrogant as to moderate someone DOWN in any case.

Laser Turntable (4, Interesting)

ArchieBunker (132337) | about 12 years ago | (#4204242)

Serious audiophiles would simply buy a laser turntable to minimize the wear and tear. Although it probably sounds more like a cd than anything.

http://www.elpj.com/

Re:Laser Turntable (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4204283)

serious pedophiles would simply buy a muslim boy to minimize wear and tear. Although it probably sounds more like an inflatable sex doll than anything

Re:Laser Turntable (1)

Buck2 (50253) | about 12 years ago | (#4204385)

Oh, man, that was harsh.

BTW, do you know where Osama Bin Laden is? We've been looking for him.

Re:Laser Turntable (3, Interesting)

dfung (68701) | about 12 years ago | (#4204366)

Back in the days before CDs, I believe there may have been a super-esoteric turntable that tried to do this (or perhaps it was just a press release gracing a CES show).

It's actually a good idea that doesn't have to sound like a CD. CD music=digitized music. A laser turntable can be used as a precise no-contact ANALOG reader.

In fact, they're obsolete now, but 12" laserdiscs are doing exactly this - the disk is an optical medium, but the signal on that disk is analog, not digital.

Now, you can't overcome the limits of the analog recording process, the cool thing about analog systems are that you can keep making them better and better. There is always hope.

David Fung

It's spelled "vinyl" (2)

AJWM (19027) | about 12 years ago | (#4204250)

But yeah, it's a cool hack.

I seem to recall in the last days of turntables and vinyl records, when CDs were starting to take over, that some company came out with a no-contact record pick-up that bounced light off the grooves. This is sort of a variation on that idea, except you don't need to spin the record.

Re:It's spelled "vinyl" (4, Insightful)

AJWM (19027) | about 12 years ago | (#4204273)

I take it back. I don't think it's a cool hack, I think it's a cool hoax. WHBT.

Pretty funny write-up, actually, but I'll believe he actually did it when I see the code.

Re:It's spelled "vinyl" (1)

blincoln (592401) | about 12 years ago | (#4204341)

I agree on both counts. The page is cleverly written, but the actual wav files sound like he sampled the record, then looped some synthesized or shortwave-radio noise over the top of it.
Also, in dneedle1.wav there is a pop that IMO could not have been generated by anything except a turntable needle hitting a scratch.

Vinyl/Vinile (2, Informative)

jargonCCNA (531779) | about 12 years ago | (#4204252)

Do /. editors actually edit? Probably not the first to notice, but it's spelt Vinyl. V-I-N-Y-L.

Not that hard, folks. Especially when you get it right in the headline.

Re:Vinyl/Vinile (0, Offtopic)

saskboy (600063) | about 12 years ago | (#4204257)

Yse, speel chequing is a must for posting something everyone cna reaad. :-)

Re:Vinyl/Vinile (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4204264)

maybe they were using virile records.

Re:Vinyl/Vinile (1, Interesting)

MrP- (45616) | about 12 years ago | (#4204266)

they didnt write it so why should they have to edit it? they should add that comment... [sic] is it? that news sites use when theres a spelling error in a quote.

Re:Vinyl/Vinile (1)

Xacid (560407) | about 12 years ago | (#4204279)

What on earth does that [sic] thing mean? I've seen it here and there but I've yet to find out.

Re:Vinyl/Vinile (1)

Monkey-Man2000 (603495) | about 12 years ago | (#4204293)

sic [dictionary.com]

Re:Vinyl/Vinile (3, Insightful)

Trepidity (597) | about 12 years ago | (#4204311)

It's latin for "thus". It's placed in brackets after quoting something that sounds wrong or odd to indicate that it really is like that in the original you're quoting (otherwise you might think it's a typo or misprint on the quoter's part). Simple errors are usually fixed instead of being marked with [sic], it's used if something is just bizarre and impossible to correct (like when Dan Quayle says something completely non-sensical) or when you're quoting a published work (fixing typos when quoting a published work is okay, but fixing its grammar is generally a bad idea).

Re:Vinyl/Vinile (1)

GigsVT (208848) | about 12 years ago | (#4204317)

[sic] is viewed as elitist by many. It's usually used when a reporter wants to make someone look stupid.

Re:Vinyl/Vinile (2)

Qrlx (258924) | about 12 years ago | (#4204427)

Many people think it stands for
Spelling InCorrect. It doesn't really mean that, but it might as well.

Re:Vinyl/Vinile (1)

MrP- (45616) | about 12 years ago | (#4204322)

Spelling Incorrect

Re:Vinyl/Vinile (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4204354)

You know, that's what I thought too. But the latin word made more sense, because [sic] is sometimes used after passages that may not contain spelling errors but grammatical errors or what-have-you instead.

Re:Vinyl/Vinile (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4204372)

i got spelling incorrect from dictionary.com

Re:Vinyl/Vinile (2)

Peyna (14792) | about 12 years ago | (#4204286)

If I submit an editorial to the local newspaper, they will correct spelling errors and other gramatical errors before publishing it. They also never mark them with [sic] or otherwise in such cases. Usually you see the [sic] when George Bush invents a new word and they don't know what to do about it.

Re:Vinyl/Vinile (1)

jargonCCNA (531779) | about 12 years ago | (#4204294)

Because that's what editors do. They edit. They fix typographical and grammatical errors. A lot of them are paid a great deal of money to see rough drafts of potential bestselling novels. They make sure that as many little screwups are taken out of books as possible before the books are printed. Yeah, you still find the occasional one, because they're still human. But this is just shameful.

Re:Vinyl/Vinile (1)

kormoc (122955) | about 12 years ago | (#4204369)

Like you said, it is a quote and everyone here knows it. the slanted words and the "quote marks" give it away. People like to be bitches

it's also spelled definite (1)

th1nk (575552) | about 12 years ago | (#4204314)

while we're on this subject

Re:Vinyl/Vinile (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4204330)

no, but they're too busy moderating down posts they don't agree with.

When I first read it . . . (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4204371)

. . . I thought they were literally using a Milli Vanilli record.

Re:Vinyl/Vinile (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4204414)

Is it just me - or does everyone notice that vinile rhymes with senile and penile ?

practical applications? (2, Funny)

larry bagina (561269) | about 12 years ago | (#4204255)

Yeah, but can you rip a fart on your scanner?

Re:practical applications? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4204326)

Yeah you can rip a fart on a scanner, but I sometimes have compression artifacts....

Re:practical applications? (1)

saskboy (600063) | about 12 years ago | (#4204352)

You may run the risk of over-exposing the subject however, if you scan with your pants down.

Re:practical applications? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4204421)

lol

it's vinyl for cryin out loud... (0, Redundant)

I'm a fscking genius (606595) | about 12 years ago | (#4204259)

While this method creates exceptionally noisy samples...

just like my old turntable...

Quick! (5, Funny)

tuxedo-steve (33545) | about 12 years ago | (#4204261)

Someone patent this! We can sue this guy and make millions!

Cool (0)

Moderator (189749) | about 12 years ago | (#4204263)

But wouldn't it make more sense to just hook the record player up to the Mic port on the back of your computer and record? You can buy all the equipment at Radioshack for ~$5.

Of course, the article reads:

"I am releasing no code because it is both sucky and useless (you see, I don't really think swapping scans of old records across p2p networks will become common practice any time soon)."

So I guess this is your only option.

Re:Cool (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4204299)

Sucky and useless? Sounds like he placed it under the GPL!

Re:Cool (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4204320)

Nope, sounds like BSD license to me. It'll probably be part of the next version of FreeBSD, in fact. That way you can combine one dead technology with another.

Does this mean scanners are the next Napster... (4, Funny)

saskboy (600063) | about 12 years ago | (#4204270)

Get out the lawyers big bad music companies. There is hell to pay, for this new copyright violating technology.
I can't wait to start ripping my parent's vinyl. I used to listen to it all the time as a kid, and now my Pentium II is finally advanced enough to play 100 year old technology.

OT: your sig (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4204342)

BEDEMIR: Who are you who are so wise in the ways of science?
ARTHUR: I am Arthur, King of the Britons.

What is vinile? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4204274)

These spelling errors have to stop. No wonder no one takes /. seriously anymore (like they ever did).

Re:What is vinile? (-1)

Reikk (534266) | about 12 years ago | (#4204323)

you know, like the west vinile virus

Image=Music?! (1)

jargonCCNA (531779) | about 12 years ago | (#4204275)

Who'd'a'thunk'it? I just checked out the gramophone.mp3 file the guy provided, that's great quality! Hardly any noise and it even picked up some pops and clicks near the end! Kudos to the programmer, it sounded like a vinyl source!

Re:Image=Music?! (2, Informative)

kormoc (122955) | about 12 years ago | (#4204303)

ummm. listen to the wav files, as the mp3 is a rip of a cd to allow you to hear the diff from the cd and the vinyl.

Re:Image=Music?! (1)

jargonCCNA (531779) | about 12 years ago | (#4204346)

Ahhhhhhhhhhh..... Right-o. Maybe I should have read a little more carefully, eh?

-listens to the ripped image-

Ewwww, all right. That dude's fired.

Re:Image=Music?! (1)

MrP- (45616) | about 12 years ago | (#4204313)

the mp3 was the actual song, the wavs are his versions from the images. the mp3 is to compare

Re:Image=Music?! (1)

Raiford (599622) | about 12 years ago | (#4204318)

I'm impressed ... if he really, really did it. I was actually expecting the sound quality to be worse. Not revealing the code is a little suspecious.

Re:Image=Music?! (1)

aronc (258501) | about 12 years ago | (#4204406)

Not revealing the code is a little suspecious.

Of course if he did post the code he would be violating the DMCA.

Yeah right (3, Insightful)

tswinzig (210999) | about 12 years ago | (#4204277)

I am releasing no code because it is both sucky and useless (you see, I don't really think swapping scans of old records across p2p networks will become common practice any time soon).

More like he'd rather get his practical joke on slashdot, and if he supplied the code, it'd be a lot easier to prove it's fake.

Let's apply Occam's Razor.

Those music samples could have been generated by software that reads stitched together images of scanned vinyl records.

Or they could be just regular samples of music taken off a record/cd/tape and run through a static-izer for effect.

Which is simpler?

Let's see the code, please...

Re:Yeah right (1)

NixterAg (198468) | about 12 years ago | (#4204306)

I'm with you. The whole thing sounds really fishy.

Re:Yeah right (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4204390)

yeah, it smells fishier than kathleen fent's cunt.

Re:Yeah right (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4204325)

And thus a voice of reason speaks.

Of course it's a hoax (3, Flamebait)

wackybrit (321117) | about 12 years ago | (#4204332)

I can't believe the amount of morons that have fallen for this story yet. The explanations the guy gives are shoddy, and logically it makes no sense.

Not only that, but he's extrapolating a higher amount of data from a smaller amount, and that just does not work people! Listen to that MP3 on his site. That is just a recording of a record playing.. there are no hideous artefacts or giant gaps.. all of which would be expected with such a crazy new idea like this. It reeks of a hoax.

Just because it's not April 1st doesn't mean you haven't been fooled, folks! I have to give the guy credit for trying though.

Re:Of course it's a hoax (4, Informative)

kormoc (122955) | about 12 years ago | (#4204351)

duh, the mp3 is of the song, listen to the wav files.

Re:Of course it's a hoax (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4204389)

i can't believe the amount of morons that didn't read the story close enough to realize the mp3 is supposed to be a reference consisting of nothing more than just a recording of the record playing.

the hideous artifacts are in wav files you dumbass.

just because it's not April 1st doesn't mean people will actually read the article before posting

The angles of stereo records are well known (5, Interesting)

isdnip (49656) | about 12 years ago | (#4204281)

The original author failed to research how vinyl records work, something that "everybody" knew 20 years ago, before CDs.

Now to see if my memory still works. Mono LPs used horizontal modulation; the needle moved back and forth within the groove. Stereo can be viewed two ways. Vertical is difference (L-R), horizontal is sum of the L+R. Viewed differently, the two diagonal walls of the groove are the two channels.

A flatbed scanner can only see the horizontal, so it might work a bit with mono, but it won't work too well! However do note that some very, very expensive ($10k+?) new turntables actually do use optical "needles" to track the groove without touching it. Talk about low tracking force!

real people (3, Interesting)

squarefish (561836) | about 12 years ago | (#4204282)

ok, so I'm aging myself- but many years ago on "Real People" they had a guy that could recognize an album or song just by looking at the grooves, his specialty was classical, but he knew everything and could easily identify the song just by looking at the grooves. This is basically doing a similar type of thing.

Re:real people (1)

I'm a fscking genius (606595) | about 12 years ago | (#4204310)

yeah but it's not like he opened his mouth and music camme out... just because he could recognize it doesn't mean he would reproduce it with any sort of fidelity... methinks he's missing a few bits of resolution

Optical record players (1)

jcl5m (519470) | about 12 years ago | (#4204284)

The sound is impressive for an off the shelf scanner. I do not know if they exist as a consumer product, but an optical record player would be quite significant. It would preserve the record by not causing physical wear and could likely be made much more sensitive than a needle. A flat bed scanner isn't really they way to go, but it's a definite and very impressive proof of concept.

Re:Optical record players - found some (2, Interesting)

jcl5m (519470) | about 12 years ago | (#4204297)

A quick jump of Google turned up a couple optical record players.

http://www.elpj.com/main.html [elpj.com]

Still, it's pretty darn neat to do it with a scanner.

Cool, but we (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4204285)

all know where this is heading. RIAA will have the guy's site down by noon tomorrow.

Definitely multiple DMCA violations, sir. Those grooves DO serve the purpose of encrypting those sounds.

Please stop thinking and trying this silly nonsense. The State will create the most beautiful music for your pleasure. You will be very happy with the State's music. It is good.

Re:Nahhh... (1)

Blondie-Wan (559212) | about 12 years ago | (#4204343)

all know where this is heading. RIAA will have the guy's site down by noon tomorrow.

Oh, I'm sure /. will have it down long before that. ;)

I wonder (1)

Sir Bard (605512) | about 12 years ago | (#4204287)

Saving an old record collection in a few megs of image files could last a very long time and provide some important historical info. These things are great.

CowboyNeal = Harry 'AICN' Knowles (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4204288)

Has anyone else noticed that CowboyNeal and Harry Knowles look exactly the same?

Here's the proof:

Picture of CowboyNeal [cowboyneal.org]
Picture of Harry Knowles [cnn.com]

Spooky!

Re:CowboyNeal = Harry 'AICN' Knowles (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4204336)

::hears x-files theme song::

Re:CowboyNeal = Harry 'AICN' Knowles (0)

BeneDux (302992) | about 12 years ago | (#4204361)

Harry's hair isn't near as blue as Neal's. But I suppose we should really base our opinions on the talent competition and not on appearance.

Is this what passes for comments? (1)

Hott of the World (537284) | about 12 years ago | (#4204289)

Granted its still early, but come on! So the guy messes up spelling. There is way too many high horses that think spelling is all that counts. This is a cool article on something useful to us old farts with an entire collection of Led Zepplin and Jimmy Hendrix records.

hyprocrisy runs amok (0, Offtopic)

KingPrad (518495) | about 12 years ago | (#4204290)

Will this work with vinyl too? Seriously, yesterday we ripped into Prince for his 733t-speak, accusing him of continuing the degradation of the English language. Today we post more articles with atrocious misspellings. I can forgive an occasional mistake, but misspelling vinyl as vinile strikes me as more than a minor mistake.

bw of a jpq v mp2 (2, Funny)

I'm a fscking genius (606595) | about 12 years ago | (#4204291)

does it take more bandwidth to send jpgs or mp3s of your record collection? oops i guess jpg and mp3 *both* have ip issues... I got to switch from mp3 to png... ogg is for pussies

My Dual Turntable sounds much better. (3, Interesting)

puto (533470) | about 12 years ago | (#4204295)

I have a Dual direct drive turntable I bought in 1986 with a diamond stylus. It sounds great and I have 'ripped' all my LPs to mp3 a long time ago. Didn't need to stick em in my scanner, didn't need to stitch any images together.

Besides I would not stick any of my 12 maxi singles of 1980s Billy Idol in the scanner to be scraped against the glass. ;).

My NAD stereo has been faithfully updated over the years but the turntable remains the same. And I do use it on the odd occasion and sometimes do pick up an ablum at the flea market.

Puto

Cool, but... (2, Informative)

Cyno01 (573917) | about 12 years ago | (#4204305)

this is really cool and all, but whats the point, if you really dont care at all about quality then this may be a quick option for converitng your collection, but if you still have vinyl you probabably care enough to plug your turntable into the audio in jack on you computer

Scanned Backward? (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4204319)

If you scan it backward, are there satanic messages?

Re:Scanned Backward? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4204376)

I don't know about that, but I DO know that if you scan a Judas Priest record backwards, you can hear Rob Halford say "I like hot man sex."

Any proof? (1)

tylerdave (58777) | about 12 years ago | (#4204333)

Is there any proof that this guy actually extracted the audio from a scanned image? I'm sorry, maybe I've gotten too skeptical but I find it hard to believe that this guy made his hack work so well but he fails to provide any technical detail (or code). Please prove me wrong.

Re:Any proof? (1)

theNote (319197) | about 12 years ago | (#4204367)

No, he didn't rip the album.

I ran the image from the site through the vinyl image ripping doohicky I wrote and came up with a completely different song.

Hypothetical Question (2, Interesting)

theNote (319197) | about 12 years ago | (#4204345)

Hypothetical Question:

Lets say this is for real (not really sure about that one)

Lets also assume it eventually extracts 100% clear as a bell.

Would it be legal to trade/sell pictures of albums?

Re:Hypothetical Question (3, Informative)

wackybrit (321117) | about 12 years ago | (#4204360)

No, of course not.

MP3s are not like-for-like copies of CDs, they're extremely lossy, and you only get a tenth of what's on the CD.. but.. you can still get busted for swapping them! I believe the copyright laws specify that any 'likeness' to which a third-party could associate with the original, is covered as such.

Ditto for music encoded within images, though this is a hoax.

Re:Hypothetical Question (1)

theNote (319197) | about 12 years ago | (#4204420)

But I think this is a little different.

If you really could rip the sound from an an image of an album, it would be an exact replica of a performance in a visual format, not audio.

Suppose I sent you a picture of me holding my old led zeppelin album.
Nothing illegal about that.
Then, you enhance the image, and extract the sound.
Again, I don't think there is anything wrong there, because you extracted you're data from a piece of art that I hold the copyright on - the picture of me holding the album!

Re:Hypothetical Question (1)

tyrani (166937) | about 12 years ago | (#4204392)

Wish I had some Karma to give, that's an interesting question. If it is legal to trade images of albums, would it them be legal to trade sound wave images?

computer media? (2, Interesting)

cosyne (324176) | about 12 years ago | (#4204348)

Can this be done with computer media? Could you just scan in two halves of a broken cdrom and extract the info? (Or has the NSA been able to do this for years and not told us about it? They just dig the CD shards out of your trash, reassemble the electron micrscope output, and read off the bits.) He said he had to scan the record in multiple sections, so it might not matter if those sections are all attached to each other.

On a related note, is there any technology for using a high res laser scanner to read records? It might actually sound decent.

Re:computer media? (0)

lordkuri (514498) | about 12 years ago | (#4204404)

From about 6 posts into the topic.

Serious audiophiles would simply buy a laser turntable to minimize the wear and tear. Although it probably sounds more like a cd than anything.

http://www.elpj.com/

This could save the WORLD! (1)

HomerG (15114) | about 12 years ago | (#4204350)

This code needs to be released. We could use it to read the grooves in Bill and MonkeyMan's heads and tell what they are thinking. Perhaps with the information gained, we can then stop their evil plot to take over the world.

I think, therefore I'm right

Finally (1)

DavidLeblond (267211) | about 12 years ago | (#4204362)

I can rock to some old JPEGs.

I suppose soon some genius is going to find a way to rip CDs with a digital camera, right?

how? (1, Insightful)

reitoei1971 (583076) | about 12 years ago | (#4204364)

"writing the decoder was very simple. All it did was rotate a "needle" around a given center at some predefined angular velocity" of course! that is so simple!! this guy is acting as though he has some magic program to pull the exact topology of a record out of a digital image. these images are 2D, you need 3D to extract sound. and keeping the "needle" inside the track on the image? very simple...provided you have a time machine in the garage and grabbed some advanced image recognition technology from a few years hence.... how about some valdity checking on /.

optical turntable (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4204365)


that was good fun. here's the high-end deal:

http://metwww.epfl.ch/lecteur_disques/MainLectDi sc E.htm

Yeah right, and the Hubble can see my penis (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4204377)

1) LPs have features with 0.001 mil resolution (that's 1/1000000th of an inch). Source: Encyclopedia Brittanica, Vol 17, p772Fd, 1962 edition. Got a 10 MILLION DPI scanner? (UW-SCSI for reasonable scan times, I guess.)
2) Got a scanner with a 12x12 inch platen?
3) As a previous poster stated, stereo grooves are recorded with 90 degree quadrature, ie there's a horizontal and a vertical (depth) component.
4) LPs are far more complex than CDs to figure out. CDs are almost child-like in comparison.
5) For the fucking BILLIONTH TIME, it's spelled D-E-F-I-N-I-T-E-L-Y.
6) Why is it I can post nonsense for days and not get blocked, I make ONE stupid Goatse joke, and I'm banned?

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Something along the same lines, laser vinyl player (1)

Stinson (564450) | about 12 years ago | (#4204381)

A few years ago i had the idea of something like that, except, a laser record player, using the same concept as a Cd player, you would have lasers scaning the vinyl for side to side movement, along with vertical, and converting to audio, not much modification to existing cd player hardware required, and it would have almost no ware on your records too. Also, a modification of this would be to use depth lasers to generate a 3d model of the record on your computer, you could use software to read the record off the hd, or, using one of thoes nifty plastic makers from 3d models, make a replica of the record as backup

Hoax or not... (1)

DigiNic (68397) | about 12 years ago | (#4204388)

there's a debate that comes up once in a while about backing data to media... The debate is whether the devices to read the data from the media in the distant future will be avaible -- and if not, what the best way to do it. I hear it all the time whenever people do time capsules. I think this list, hoax or not, shows that people will figure out how to decode what ever we come up with -- with today's technology, or tomorrows.

For those intrested in Digital/Vinyl (1)

armhead (177386) | about 12 years ago | (#4204400)

http://www.finalscratch.com/ [finalscratch.com] This is another cool Vinyl 'hack'. It uses timecoded records to mix mp3s on analog equipment, albeit with a bit of help from a CPU that uses good ole Linux :) For DJ's just starting out Records are expensive, but this can greatly reduce the cost of starting out.

New slashdot low? (2)

MisterBlister (539957) | about 12 years ago | (#4204409)

Heh. Nice Hoax!

I love the part where he draws out all these superficially fancy-looking diagrams modelling 3d space but he doesn't bother to even use a compass for his angle drawing/measurements so his record looks like it was drawn by a 3 year old...

optical network p2p (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4204416)

just tape whatever vinyl you want to share in your windows (ahem... the glass covered hole in the wall) and let your neighbors take a photo of it and upload it to the pc - however it might make balance control tough if they are not at a 90 degree angle to your window

A way to remove the noise. (2)

sterno (16320) | about 12 years ago | (#4204424)

The best way to remove the noise is to not ADD THE NOISE when you produce your hoax! :). Very clever but this is a big steaming pile of it!

How about the opposite? (2)

Wesley Everest (446824) | about 12 years ago | (#4204428)

Take mp3 files, generate a 3D polygonal representation of a record, then do a physics simulation with a virtual needle, also made up of 3D polygons. Take the vibrations of the needle and simulate the conversion from kinetic to analog electrical energy. Then digitize the electrical signal and play it out the sound card. Then you could just swap mp3D files on your P2P net of choice...

obDMCA: rot13 the poly data and call the FBI when the RIAA circumvents it...

Next song to be scanned: (1)

Garion911 (10618) | about 12 years ago | (#4204429)

Too much time on my hands - Styx

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