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Bluetooth And The Common Motherboard

timothy posted more than 11 years ago | from the no-mandatory-webcam-yet dept.

Hardware 98

Just say no to Apple writes "Computers seem to be on the precipice of a new chapter with things like Serial ATA and now bluetooth showing up as standard equipment. Of course the bluetooth kit that comes with this board is really tiny, which makes me wonder if you might be able to integrate it into a small remote device... But anyway, if a computer upgrade is on the horizon, have a look at this Epox board review and the bluetooth gear it uses."

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98 comments

Sweet (-1, Offtopic)

miketang16 (585602) | more than 11 years ago | (#4257130)

Sounds cool.. can't wait for these to show up.

Re:Sweet (-1)

cmdr_shithead (527909) | more than 11 years ago | (#4257148)

Hi! Would you like to attend MIT? It's just for people like yourself, you moron.

Mass Inane Turdlicking University [mit.edu]

Move along, Macintosh faggots... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4257190)

... this discussion is about computer hardware, which is being carried on among adults. There is nothing for you to see here, much less participate in. Go back to gloating about iPhoto and iTunes and how stupid everyone is who isn't in thrall to Steve Jobs.

Candy-assed fags.

Re:Move along, Macintosh faggots... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4257353)

Yeah, Adults are the majority of /. users, rrright.

Re:Sweet (-1, Offtopic)

miketang16 (585602) | more than 11 years ago | (#4257634)

Off-topic? Now that wasn't very nice... I was just typing a short little thing, so that I could get the first comment. Call me a troll or whatever, but in actuality I am not a Mac user or anything of that order. I guess I should have just said "FIRST POST!!!".. maybe I wouldn't have been flamed. Then again, this is Slashdot, what am I saying...

w00t (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4257131)

linuxisforbitches [linuxisforbitches.com]
w00t

wurd to mah h0miez

Wo000o000oooo000000000! (-1)

cmdr_shithead (527909) | more than 11 years ago | (#4257141)

goat post 2000;

"on the precipice of a new chapter" (2, Funny)

Animats (122034) | more than 11 years ago | (#4257163)

Try to get your metaphors unmixed, please.

FUCK THE MODERATORS (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4257278)

who cares if it's Offtopic? All you mods are on crack. That comment was funn.y

pr0n on the go? (1, Offtopic)

ElQuesoEsViejo (81308) | more than 11 years ago | (#4257164)

You could bluetooth an external harddrive for even more pr0n for today's geek on the go.

FUCK THE LAMENESS FILTER (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4257288)

I just tried to post this comment saying how gh3y the mods are and how theyre on crack but it said "This exact comment has already been posted. Try to be more original...". FUCK IT

Re:pr0n on the go? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4258925)

do you realize how slow this would be? you wouldn't even want to play mp3s or movies off of this thing! geez. why would anyone buy anything bluetooth? 70 kilobytes per second? WTF? and a way small range? why not just go full 802.11b??? what the heck

Re:pr0n on the go? (2)

packeteer (566398) | more than 11 years ago | (#4264179)

bluetooth is really only meant for printer sharing/wireless mice and keyboards/non-bandwidth intensive networking (such as simple messaging)... not for me for the price

small remote device (1)

oliverthered (187439) | more than 11 years ago | (#4257177)

This'd be great, ALL you need to do is get some standards agreed and from then on you'd only need 1 remote for you PC. I could cat /dev/bluetooth/remote and microsoft could DirectRemote it.

Now anyone know how to get the TV and Sound card manufactures to agree on a standard?

Re: small remote device (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4257639)

Bluetooth is not new, I have an Ericsson phone and am now on my third new model of bluetooth headset because I keep upgrading as the newer ones come out.

A friend of mine has the same phone and a toshiba pocket pc thingy that he connects to it using bluetooth to sync his address list.

There are already laptops that have bluetooth devices. It's not new, it's already in tiny devices like phones and laptops and handhelds.

But I think it's a little slow for lots of data.

KT400 (3, Informative)

I_am_Rambi (536614) | more than 11 years ago | (#4257184)

If you're in the market for a new AMD motherboard, perhaps you should wait and see how the new VIA KT400

Well some of these boards have been tested. According to this article [tomshardware.com] on Toms Hardware [tomshardware.com] the KT400 boards aren't worth it. Interesting benchmarks, that is for sure.

always been small (3, Informative)

forgoil (104808) | more than 11 years ago | (#4257187)

Correct me if I am wrong, but if I remember the guys at Ericsson correctly, the point of bluetooth is that it can be put into almost any piece of electronic gadget, being really small and all. Hence it should appear in just about anything you can imagine.

The problem is that it should have appeared many years ago, I have no real clue on why it has taken such an enormous amount of time to get it to market in anything interesting.

Re:always been small (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4257202)

'no real clue on why' I susspect patents and licensing agreements are preventing blue tooth from taking off.
IR probably costs 1cent per transmiting device if that.

small amount of power (4, Insightful)

johnjones (14274) | more than 11 years ago | (#4257253)

bluetooth has always been about low power

this meassn that it can be put into phones
and washing machines, fridges, microwaves and of course keyboards, mice and microphones/speakers

Microsoft next keyboards are to be wireless and bluetooth

bluetooth is about short range low power 802.11b is about high power, long range and high bandwidth

bluetooth is pretty sweet its really the software that holding things back because their are lots of devices now

it terms of volume more bluetooth devices are made each day than 802.11b in a year
(pinch of salt bluetooth sig no. but a good idea about the volume)

regards

John Jones

802.11b - HIGH POWER????? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4257506)

Under no means would I consider WiFi to be high power.. In fact, the reason you can run these devices without an FCC license is becuase they broadcast with *very low* power. True, it's more powerful then bluetooth, but to call it high-power would be a misstatement.

Power consumption, not transmit power (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4257807)

The difference between the transmit power and total power consumption of a Wi-Fi device can be pretty high. Even though most radios only transmit 30mW they may consume 500mW of total power, which really strains battery-powered devices.

Re:small amount of power (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4257578)

Microsoft next keyboards are to be wireless and bluetooth

Like hell would I allow my keystrokes to be sniffed. its like using a cordless phone: anyone can listen in.

Fact check on bluetooth volume (4, Informative)

Adam J. Richter (17693) | more than 11 years ago | (#4258876)

it terms of volume more bluetooth devices are made each day than 802.11b in a year

"In 2Q02, 802.11b hardware shipments grew 15%, totaling 3.9 million units." [216.239.35.100] 3.9 million x 4 quaters/year = 15.6 million/year if volumes are at least flat for the next three quarters. x 365 = 5.7 billion bluetooth devices produced per year? I read in a magazine recently that the total number of computers ever produced is expected to reach one billion in the next few months.

Poking around the internet, all I see are projections that perhaps bluetooth unit volumes will catch up to 802.11 this year. "It is not fair to run comparisons between Bluetooth and WLAN regarding the number of chips being shipped or expected to be shipped for either technology. Because of its price and the type of products where it is going into, Bluetooth will soon surpass 802.11 chip shipments but dollar volume might still be smaller for some time." [mobileinfo.com]

"Our annual Bluetooth study predicted Bluetooth chipset shipments would rise from close to zero in 2000 to just over 10 million units in 2001, and the year will end not far from this figure." [wirelessdevnet.com]

Could you please post a reference for your claim that "more bluetooth devices are made each day than 802.11b in a year" or a retraction? Thanks in advance.

Re:Fact check on bluetooth volume (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4259050)

This guy can't even make a coherent sentence, how can you expect him to look up facts?

in terms of volume .... phones or PC's (1)

johnjones (14274) | more than 11 years ago | (#4259195)

think not how many PC's but phones

all new phones have Bluetooth

take a long hard look at the semiconductor world and in terms of volume x86 makes up under 1% this year compare this to the ARM and MIPS world which make up your Set Top Box, NIC, and mobile phone

ask yourself how many phones per person ?

regards

John Jones

p.s. phone booth [apple.com] and of course www [arm.com]

p.p.s. I can actually format URL's cant you ?

Please post references (2)

Adam J. Richter (17693) | more than 11 years ago | (#4260559)

take a long hard look at the semiconductor world and in terms of volume x86 makes up under 1% this year compare this to the ARM and MIPS world which make up your Set Top Box, NIC, and mobile phone

This report [aallison.com] estimates sales of Arm, MIPS, SH and PowerPC chips in 2001 was 539 million units. "For the first quarter of 2002, PC makers worldwide shipped 31.4 million PCs" [compuserve.com] . So, that's 125 million PCs/year. That's a lower bound on annual x86 unit volume. Even if every PC were a uniprocessor, and even if that source's definition of "PCs" included every x86 application, from embedded to supercomputers, 125 million is still a lot more than 1% of 539 million.

Please post references or retractions for your claims that "in terms of volume x86 makes up under 1% this year compare this to the ARM and MIPS world", "more bluetooth devices are made each day than 802.11b in a year", and "all new phones have Bluetooth" (even if you meant all new designs of cellular and cordless phones, a reference would still be in order).

do your own research you hack (2)

johnjones (14274) | more than 11 years ago | (#4269461)

well why dont you phone up ARM or MIPS

and maybe do some work rather than just reading slasdot before you have to put in your copy

how do I know this ?

no geek would care for surveys I only knew it because I had to work in those places

regards

John Jones

Re:do your own research you hack (2)

Adam J. Richter (17693) | more than 11 years ago | (#4270835)

I have provided numerous links to support my factual claims. If you cannot provide any references to support your claims that "in terms of volume x86 makes up under 1% this year compare this to the ARM and MIPS world", "more bluetooth devices are made each day than 802.11b in a year", and "all new phones have Bluetooth", then there is no way to distinguish you from someone who just makes up false information. I have done enough research for my statements to provide links that directly show the numbers that support my claims. You have not done this with yours.

Anyhow, it's pretty apparent that you are unable to provide links that show the numbers that you claim. If your claims were true, you could easily find them by google and then you should have and would have posted them.

I'm sorry if I am no longer able to prioritize time to respond further to you if you do not post references or retractions for your aforementioned claims.

Re:in terms of volume .... phones or PC's (1)

wurp (51446) | more than 11 years ago | (#4261845)

With a sig that says "please don't comment about spelling" and a posting style that ignores the existence of most capital letters and punctuation, comments about someone's style of formatting URLs is a little disingenuous.

BTW, it's "URLs" and "can't", not "URL's" and "cant".

wanker (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4269472)

I do try and get away from people like you

Re:small amount of power (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4259460)

Tell me, then, why can't I buy a Palm device that has integrated Bluetooth? Why can't I get any attachments to retrofit a PalmV with bluetooth? It's supposed to be cheap, I should be able to plunk down $50 and get a bluetooth piggyback.

Come to think of it, why can't I buy a stereo minisystem that has bluetooth integrated in it?

Ok, it's shown up on one mobo, woohoo. It's shown up in Ericsson cell phones, but that doesn't really count, because Bluetooth is Ericsson's baby. And even so, what could I possibly want to do between a cell phone and a desktop machine? Dial up the internet?

I think you'll find that TCP/IP has a simpler programming interface than bluetooth does. It's like WAP, in that it's the kind of protocol only a telco person would love. And complex protocols tend to have complex APIs. And as much as some of you like to be 1337, complex APIs are not going to get used that often, ie. no software is going to get written.

Which is why 802.11b is growing like crazy and bluetooth sort of stumbles along in the shadows, because at the application level, 802.11 is no different from a normal socket connection, which is something you definitely can't say for bluetooth.

If I had one piece of advice to give to the bluetooth boosters, it's this: provide a open source stack that implements the Berkeley socket interface. It should be as simple as TCP/IP, if you want people to adopt it. Otherwise, watch 802.11's taillights recede in fron of you.

Re:always been small (3, Informative)

Neuro2000 (594273) | more than 11 years ago | (#4257259)

I work for Anritsu, in the same engineering group that manufactures the Anritsu MT8850A Bluetooth production Test Box. Its taken this long to get the different chipset correctly working together. It wasn't until Version 1.1 when people had stable Radio's and Stable protocol working! Other smaller companies are struggling to get their implimentation of bluetooth working. BTW. BlueCore02 from CSR is a very good Bluetooth device.

Re:always been small (1)

softsign (120322) | more than 11 years ago | (#4257549)

From what I've heard, it's because a Bluetooth kit was originally intended to be a sub-$5 part... Before this year, nobody had brought a Bluetooth solution to market for under $50.

Re:always been small (2)

Darren Winsper (136155) | more than 11 years ago | (#4257708)

Bluetooth is actually quite complex and getting it working on a small, embedded device is a nightmare.

ddSRgeerdzfg3wh (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4257199)

r if you might be able to integrate it into a small remote device... But anyway, if a computer upgrade is on the horizon, have a look at this Epox board review and the bluetooth gear it uses."

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Satellites Image Earthquakes
SciencePosted by CowboyNeal on Saturday September 14, @12:03PM
from the plate-tectonics dept.
evilocity writes "A BBC story reports that scientists are now using satellite radar to study earthquakes and fault lines, gathering more data than was ever before possible. Already the findings are challenging current theories, but the practical goal of course is earthquake forecasting."

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WA Wins First Case Against Deceptive Spammer
SpamPosted by CowboyNeal on Saturday September 14, @10:56AM
from the using-the-law-to-filter-your-inbox dept.
GPFCharlie writes "The Seattle Post-Intelligencer is running this article about the first victory by a US state against a spammer. Apparently the judge ruled that a civil trial was not even necessary, since the state had already proven their case. The law was upheld by the WA Supreme Court and an appeal was turned down by the US Supreme Court. Next phase: penalties. How about 5 million hand-written apology letters?"

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War Car Offers Wi-Fi
The InternetPosted by CmdrTaco on Saturday September 14, @09:47AM
from the now-how-does-that-work dept.
NetGyver writes "news.com has an interesting story about public hot-spot operators that use a weapon in protest against the growth of commercial Wi-Fi networks: Michael Oh's "war car." The 1997 Saturn has enough Wi-Fi equipment installed on its bumper and rooftop to create a 150-foot wireless network, said Oh, who helps run a free wireless network covering two Boston city blocks and is one of hundreds of so-called public hot-spot operators who believe Wi-Fi networks and the Internet access they offer should remain free."

( Read More... | 45 of 71 comments )
UT2003 Demo Readyr if you might be able to integrate it into a small remote device... But anyway, if a computer upgrade is on the horizon, have a look at this Epox board review and the bluetooth gear it uses."

( Read More... | 5 of 10 comments )
Satellites Image Earthquakes
SciencePosted by CowboyNeal on Saturday September 14, @12:03PM
from the plate-tectonics dept.
evilocity writes "A BBC story reports that scientists are now using satellite radar to study earthquakes and fault lines, gathering more data than was ever before possible. Already the findings are challenging current theories, but the practical goal of course is earthquake forecasting."

( Read More... | 14 of 27 comments )
WA Wins First Case Against Deceptive Spammer
SpamPosted by CowboyNeal on Saturday September 14, @10:56AM
from the using-the-law-to-filter-your-inbox dept.
GPFCharlie writes "The Seattle Post-Intelligencer is running this article about the first victory by a US state against a spammer. Apparently the judge ruled that a civil trial was not even necessary, since the state had already proven their case. The law was upheld by the WA Supreme Court and an appeal was turned down by the US Supreme Court. Next phase: penalties. How about 5 million hand-written apology letters?"

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War Car Offers Wi-Fi
The InternetPosted by CmdrTaco on Saturday September 14, @09:47AM
from the now-how-does-that-work dept.
NetGyver writes "news.com has an interesting story about public hot-spot operators that use a weapon in protest against the growth of commercial Wi-Fi networks: Michael Oh's "war car." The 1997 Saturn has enough Wi-Fi equipment installed on its bumper and rooftop to create a 150-foot wireless network, said Oh, who helps run a free wireless network covering two Boston city blocks and is one of hundreds of so-called public hot-spot operators who believe Wi-Fi networks and the Internet access they offer should remain free."

( Read More... | 45 of 71 comments )
UT2003 Demo Readyr if you might be able to integrate it into a small remote device... But anyway, if a computer upgrade is on the horizon, have a look at this Epox board review and the bluetooth gear it uses."

( Read More... | 5 of 10 comments )
Satellites Image Earthquakes
SciencePosted by CowboyNeal on Saturday September 14, @12:03PM
from the plate-tectonics dept.
evilocity writes "A BBC story reports that scientists are now using satellite radar to study earthquakes and fault lines, gathering more data than was ever before possible. Already the findings are challenging current theories, but the practical goal of course is earthquake forecasting."

( Read More... | 14 of 27 comments )
WA Wins First Case Against Deceptive Spammer
SpamPosted by CowboyNeal on Saturday September 14, @10:56AM
from the using-the-law-to-filter-your-inbox dept.
GPFCharlie writes "The Seattle Post-Intelligencer is running this article about the first victory by a US state against a spammer. Apparently the judge ruled that a civil trial was not even necessary, since the state had already proven their case. The law was upheld by the WA Supreme Court and an appeal was turned down by the US Supreme Court. Next phase: penalties. How about 5 million hand-written apology letters?"

( Read More... | 82 of 129 comments )
War Car Offers Wi-Fi
The InternetPosted by CmdrTaco on Saturday September 14, @09:47AM
from the now-how-does-that-work dept.
NetGyver writes "news.com has an interesting story about public hot-spot operators that use a weapon in protest against the growth of commercial Wi-Fi networks: Michael Oh's "war car." The 1997 Saturn has enough Wi-Fi equipment installed on its bumper and rooftop to create a 150-foot wireless network, said Oh, who helps run a free wireless network covering two Boston city blocks and is one of hundreds of so-called public hot-spot operators who believe Wi-Fi networks and the Internet access they offer should remain free."

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UT2003 Demo Ready
GamesPosted by CmdrTaco on Saturday September 14, @08:56AM
GamesPosted by CmdrTaco on Saturday September 14, @08:56AM
GamesPosted by CmdrTaco on Saturday September 14, @08:56AM

Cool (4, Funny)

mfos.org (471768) | more than 11 years ago | (#4257208)

Stick it on a board with some vacuum tubes [aopen.com] and I'll take it.

Re:Cool (2)

NeoSkandranon (515696) | more than 11 years ago | (#4257494)

I might be missing a joke here ,but why the HELL would you want vac-tubes on a motherboard?

Re:Cool (1)

drhemi (414356) | more than 11 years ago | (#4257552)

because vacuum tubes produce better sound.

Re:Cool (2)

shepd (155729) | more than 11 years ago | (#4257835)

>because vacuum tubes produce better sound. ...For people that are too lazy to use an EQ.

Re:Cool (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4258187)

Yeah. All that high frequency RF noise wouldn't affect the sound "quality" at all, either. Not to mention I bet your digital CD's and FLAC compressed audio sounds great with those analog components in there. No doubt it magically makes your audio "richer" and "warmer"...

By the way, would you like to buy some speaker cables? $50 a foot. It'll make your $400 mini stereo in your front room sound like a symphony hall!

you are teh gay (-1)

SweetAndSourJesus (555410) | more than 11 years ago | (#4257211)

at least that's what your mom tells me.

she also says your wang is teeny.

CTRL+A,C Reply, CTRL+V, Wait 20 secs, Submit (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4257221)

Bluetooth And The Common Motherboard
Posted by timothy on Saturday September 14, @01:07PM
from the no-mandatory-webcam-yet dept.
Just say no to Apple writes "Computers seem to be on the precipice of a new chapter with things like Serial ATA and now bluetooth showing up as standard equipment. Of course the bluetooth kit that comes with this board is really tiny, which makes me wonder if you might be able to integrate it into a small remote device... But anyway, if a computer upgrade is on the horizon, have a look at this Epox board review and the bluetooth gear it uses."
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Sweet (Score:0)
by miketang16 (miketang15@earthlink.net) on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257130)
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Sounds cool.. can't wait for these to show up.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
Re:Sweet by cmdr_shithead (Score:-1) Saturday September 14, @01:13PM
Move along, Macintosh faggots... Saturday September 14, @01:28PM
w00t (Score:-1, Troll)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257131)
linuxisforbitches [linuxisforbitches.com]
w00t
wurd to mah h0miez
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
Wo000o000oooo000000000! (Score:-1)
by cmdr_shithead on Saturday September 14, @01:10PM (#4257141)
(User #527909 Info)
goat post 2000;
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
"on the precipice of a new chapter" (Score:2)
by Animats (slashdot-replies@downside.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257163)
(User #122034 Info | http://www.animats.com)
Try to get your metaphors unmixed, please.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
pr0n on the go? (Score:1)
by ElQuesoEsViejo on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257164)
(User #81308 Info)
You could bluetooth an external harddrive for even more pr0n for today's geek on the go.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
small remote device (Score:1)
by oliverthered (oliverthered@h o t mail.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:23PM (#4257177)
(User #187439 Info)

This'd be great, ALL you need to do is get some standards agreed and from then on you'd only need 1 remote for you PC. I could cat /dev/bluetooth/ remote and microsoft could DirectRemote it.

Now anyone know how to get the TV and Sound card manufactures to agree on a standard?

[ Reply to This | Parent ]

KT400 (Score:1)
by I_am_Rambi on Saturday September 14, @01:26PM (#4257184)
(User #536614 Info | http://slashdot.org/)

If you're in the market for a new AMD motherboard, perhaps you should wait and see how the new VIA KT400

Well some of these boards have been tested. According to this article [tomshardware.com] on Toms Hardware [tomshardware.com] the KT400 boards aren't worth it. Interesting benchmarks, that is for sure.

[ Reply to This | Parent ]

always been small (Score:2)
by forgoil on Saturday September 14, @01:27PM (#4257187)
(User #104808 Info | http://forgoil.fukt.bth.se/)

Correct me if I am wrong, but if I remember the guys at Ericsson correctly, the point of bluetooth is that it can be put into almost any piece of electronic gadget, being really small and all. Hence it should appear in just about anything you can imagine.

The problem is that it should have appeared many years ago, I have no real clue on why it has taken such an enormous amount of time to get it to market in anything interesting.

[ Reply to This | Parent ]

Re:always been small Saturday September 14, @01:31PM

ddSRgeerdzfg3wh (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:30PM (#4257199)

r if you might be able to integrate it into a small remote device... But anyway, if a computer upgrade is on the horizon, have a look at this Epox board review and the bluetooth gear it uses."

( Read More... | 5 of 10 comments )
Satellites Image Earthquakes
SciencePosted by CowboyNeal on Saturday September 14, @12:03PM
from the plate-tectonics dept.
evilocity writes "A BBC story reports that scientists are now using satellite radar to study earthquakes and fault lines, gathering more data than was ever before possible. Already the findings are challenging current theories, but the practical goal of course is earthquake forecasting."

( Read More... | 14 of 27 comments )
WA Wins First Case Against Deceptive Spammer
SpamPosted by CowboyNeal on Saturday September 14, @10:56AM
from the using-the-law-to-filter-your-inbox dept.
GPFCharlie writes "The Seattle Post-Intelligencer is running this article about the first victory by a US state against a spammer. Apparently the judge ruled that a civil trial was not even necessary, since the state had already proven their case. The law was upheld by the WA Supreme Court and an appeal was turned down by the US Supreme Court. Next phase: penalties. How about 5 million hand-written apology letters?"

( Read More... | 82 of 129 comments )
War Car Offers Wi-Fi
The InternetPosted by CmdrTaco on Saturday September 14, @09:47AM
from the now-how-does-that-work dept.
NetGyver writes "news.com has an interesting story about public hot-spot operators that use a weapon in protest against the growth of commercial Wi-Fi networks: Michael Oh's "war car." The 1997 Saturn has enough Wi-Fi equipment installed on its bumper and rooftop to create a 150-foot wireless network, said Oh, who helps run a free wireless network covering two Boston city blocks and is one of hundreds of so-called public hot- spot operators who believe Wi-Fi networks and the Internet access they offer should remain free."

( Read More... | 45 of 71 comments )
UT2003 Demo Readyr if you might be able to integrate it into a small remote device... But anyway, if a computer upgrade is on the horizon, have a look at this Epox board review and the bluetooth gear it uses."

( Read More... | 5 of 10 comments )
Satellites Image Earthquakes
SciencePosted by CowboyNeal on Saturday September 14, @12:03PM
from the plate-tectonics dept.
evilocity writes "A BBC story reports that scientists are now using satellite radar to study earthquakes and fault lines, gathering more data than was ever before possible. Already the findings are challenging current theories, but the practical goal of course is earthquake forecasting."

( Read More... | 14 of 27 comments )
WA Wins First Case Against Deceptive Spammer
SpamPosted by CowboyNeal on Saturday September 14, @10:56AM
from the using-the-law-to-filter-your-inbox dept.
GPFCharlie writes "The Seattle Post-Intelligencer is running this article about the first victory by a US state against a spammer. Apparently the judge ruled that a civil trial was not even necessary, since the state had already proven their case. The law was upheld by the WA Supreme Court and an appeal was turned down by the US Supreme Court. Next phase: penalties. How about 5 million hand-written apology letters?"

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War Car Offers Wi-Fi
The InternetPosted by CmdrTaco on Saturday September 14, @09:47AM
from the now-how-does-that-work dept.
NetGyver writes "news.com has an interesting story about public hot-spot operators that use a weapon in protest against the growth of commercial Wi-Fi networks: Michael Oh's "war car." The 1997 Saturn has enough Wi-Fi equipment installed on its bumper and rooftop to create a 150-foot wireless network, said Oh, who helps run a free wireless network covering two Boston city blocks and is one of hundreds of so-called public hot- spot operators who believe Wi-Fi networks and the Internet access they offer should remain free."
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Cool (Score:2)
by mfos.org on Saturday September 14, @01:34PM (#4257208)
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Stick it on a board with some vacuum tubes [aopen.com] and I'll take it.
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you are teh gay (Score:-1)
by SweetAndSourJesus on Saturday September 14, @01:35PM (#4257211)
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at least that's what your mom tells me.
she also says your wang is teeny.
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Advertising? On Slashdot? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4257224)

This looks like another case of advertising in slashdot.

Was there this much of a huzzah when (infinitely more useful) ethernet chips, nvidia video chips, or even SB compatible sound chips were integrated onto motherboards?

They guy that mentioned the motherboard with the vacuum tubes has it right. Somehow, that has the innate property of "coolness," while this mobo has the innate property of "gheyness."

Well, onto the next precipice! I'm jazzed!

How much legacy should we carry? (3, Insightful)

deragon (112986) | more than 11 years ago | (#4257230)

As time goes by, more and more ports/connectors add up on my motherboards. When are we going to get ride of ps/2 buses, parallels and serial ports?

So now we would have:

bluetooth
parallel port
serial ports
Serial IDE
Parallel IDE
Firewire
ps2 buses
USB
-- Next ones are not on motherboards, but still...---
Analog joystick port (gameport)
VGA output
Audio ports
Ethernet

Am I missing a port? Keeping legacy ports does add cost on the systems...

I wish we could go by with firewire only. Everything on firewire. HDs, modem, joystick, keyboard... Only analog output like Video and Audio would remain. BTW, most motherboards do not come with Firewire on, but I bet there must be a few out there with it.

Re:How much legacy should we carry? (0)

chez69 (135760) | more than 11 years ago | (#4257255)

Firewire is overkill for a whole lot of things (keyboards, mice, joysticks ) and not fast enough for others ( hard drives ).

Re:How much legacy should we carry? (2)

phillymjs (234426) | more than 11 years ago | (#4257361)

FireWire was designed to be a high-speed bus, and is plenty fast for hard drive use. I keep all my installers and system builds on a 60GB FireWire drive (I'm a Mac system integrator). You want to talk about something not fast enough for hard drives, how about USB? Even USB 2.0 is no match for FireWire when it comes to moving data to/from hard drives.

And anyway, FireWire will very soon double in speed to 800Mbps (again leaving USB in the dust), as it was designed to do, and will one day scale up to 1600Mbps and probably faster. Expect to see 800Mbps FireWire on Macs and probably Sony VAIOs in 2003.

~Philly

Re:How much legacy should we carry? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4257781)

I saw a comparative test between ATA133, USB2 and Firewire a couple of months ago (can't remember the url) and guess what? Even if Firewire and USB2 do provide enough bandwidth for an IDE drive these interfaces were generally twice as slow when compared to ATA133.

So the bandwidth is not the only parameter in the equation here...

Re:How much legacy should we carry? (1)

atam (115117) | more than 11 years ago | (#4259191)

However, I think you are comparing apple to orange. Both Firewire and USB2 are primarily for external devices that can be easily hot plugged or unplugged. On the other hand, ATA133 are used mostly for internal devices. Yes, you could build removable drive bay to hot plug ATA133 harddrive, but it is generally not supported well outside server machine environment (not to mention that it is an expensive option). Firwire and USB2 is pretty fast and practical. It may not be as fast as internal solution, such as ATA133 or SCSI, but it serves its purpose well (i.e. inexpensive /exteranlportable solution).

Re:How much legacy should we carry? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4257371)

FireWire is better for harddrives than USB.

Re:How much legacy should we carry? (4, Insightful)

Myriad (89793) | more than 11 years ago | (#4257322)

As time goes by, more and more ports/connectors add up on my motherboards. When are we going to get ride of ps/2 buses, parallels and serial ports?

So now we would have:
bluetooth parallel port serial ports Serial IDE Parallel IDE Firewire ps2 buses USB

It better not be anytime soon! I happen to have rather a lot of money invested in external devices which happen to use these legacy devices you are so wanting to be rid of.

Such as you ask? I have multiple KVMS switches for handling multiple monitors connected to multiple systems. These all use standard VGA and serial/PS2 ports for mouse/keyboard. One KVMS can run $200-$1000 easily - and that's before buying all the cabling for them. Heck, a few of 'em still use the large DIN connectors for keyboard and 9 pin serial for the mouse.

My printer likes Parallel and I like my printer - it works just fine. Now I'm supposed to drop another few hundred bucks on a printer?

My UPS's use serial - am I to buy a new set of battery backups because my current ones can no longer notify the server that time is running out?

Oop, lets not foget the external diagnostic LCD which happens to run on Parallel.

Heck, I even use the Joystick port for some very basic Midi stuff from time to time.

So, keep your grubby hands off my ports!

(just because it's not the latest and greatest doesn't mean it's not important to people)

Re:How much legacy should we carry? (1)

Kranium (211344) | more than 11 years ago | (#4257411)

Yeah, well., why not ditch the legacy ports anyways and let those that need those ports (parallel, serial) buy a $39 parallel + serial card?

Cheaper computers for the majority and a minor incurred cost to the minority that must have legacy ports.

To the future!

Re:How much legacy should we carry? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4257510)

My printer likes Parallel and I like my printer - it works just fine. Now I'm supposed to drop another few hundred bucks on a printer? My UPS's use serial - am I to buy a new set of battery backups because my current ones can no longer notify the server that time is running out?

So you think nobody is going to make I/O cards with legacy connectors anymore? This stuff doesn't need to be integrated on to the motherboard, cards work just as well.

Heck, I even use the Joystick port for some very basic Midi stuff from time to time.

So pick a sound card that has the connectors you want.

Re:How much legacy should we carry? (1)

Saeger (456549) | more than 11 years ago | (#4257566)

I assume you're aware of the existance of USB-Parallel adaptors (like this one [asante.com] )? The driver support will get better.

In many cases it works transparently (and when it doesn't, you can always buy a $20 I/O card seperately).

--

Re:How much legacy should we carry? (2)

Elbereth (58257) | more than 11 years ago | (#4257796)

I'm sure that the OEM motherboards will eventually have only USB ports. I'd like to have more options available to me for my systems, though. Hopefully, PS/2 won't die out any day soon. I see nothing wrong with it, and I have lots of PS/2 peripherals that work just fine.

I did break down and buy a USB keyboard, but only because my stupid PowerMac lacks support for anything else. Too bad there isn't an I/O card you can use to get PS/2, serial, and parallel.

Re:How much legacy should we carry? (2)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | more than 11 years ago | (#4259314)

There are, but they ain't cards, they are usb devices. I'm to lazy to hunt down an all-in-one converter, but here is a link to a ps2-2-usb converter to get you started.

Re:How much legacy should we carry? (2)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | more than 11 years ago | (#4259331)

O, ok, the tequila was a little bit stronger than usual tonight:

http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/usb-ps2-adapt er .htm

Re:How much legacy should we carry? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4259830)

I'm sure that the OEM motherboards will eventually have only USB ports.
I'd bet on 1394b as the current contender to replace externals.

Re:How much legacy should we carry? (1)

Petrox (525639) | more than 11 years ago | (#4258451)

Serial to USB adapters are commonplace. Drop those legacy ports, and the price of your next rig drops accordingly.

Re:How much legacy should we carry? (2)

GlassUser (190787) | more than 11 years ago | (#4259256)

Why don't we keep 5.25" drives and MCA buses around while we're at it? Someone might need those too.

Re:How much legacy should we carry? (2)

Skuld-Chan (302449) | more than 11 years ago | (#4259899)

I can't tell if your joking or not - mostly because of moderation rates you as insightful.

I was working for a PC OEM (while in highschool) when 486 motherboards started coming with built in IDE, Serial and PS/2 - I had more people ask me things like "what do I do if the com ports break down?" or when PCI came out - "what do I do with all my expansion cards?"

Get used to it - its called change. What I'd do if I were you is never ever upgrade ever. That should include your antiquated KVM switch.

Re:How much legacy should we carry? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4257359)

ATX backplane covers have cutouts for the gameport and audio ports. Some ATX boards have their own custom backplanes for the VGA and/or ethernet ports.

Or on my iMac... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4257388)

USB, Firewire, ATA, Ethernet, Audio and NO FLOPPY! None of those seem too legacy.

Connector panel bigger than MB? (2)

Slashamatic (553801) | more than 11 years ago | (#4257538)

I suppose we could get to a state where the connector panel is bigger than the MB, and the cables connecting it to the MB would themselves become a pain.

I don't know if I agree with you about F/W but the size is certainly right.

Re:How much legacy should we carry? (1)

singularity (2031) | more than 11 years ago | (#4258247)

I am a big Mac fan, but have been in the market for an inexpensive PC to learn on. Since I will not be installing Windows, the best way to do this seems to be to build my own.

I have been looking for legacy-free motherboards, in part because the Mac fan in me scoffs when I see a 2GHz machine with PS/2 ports, but mostly because I will be using a USB KVM switch, and do not want to have to deal with any problems from having the silly ports.

About the only motherboard I have foudn that gets rid of some of the ports is the ABIT AT7 series motherboards. While a nice motherboard, I find it strange that there is only one.

(And, so you know, the AT7 line comes with Firewire, Audio, and Ethernet all on board. Everything else is USB, Firewire, and USB 2.0 externally, and S-ATA and ATA inside. Although it does still support a floppy drive... Ugh...)

Re:How much legacy should we carry? (2)

Clover_Kicker (20761) | more than 11 years ago | (#4259006)

>I wish we could go by with firewire only.
>Everything on firewire. HDs, modem, joystick, keyboard...

As long as someone makes an adapter so I can keep my genuine IBM PS/2 keyboard. Made in 1984, weighs a ton, and has a lovely "feel" to it that I haven't found in modern keyboards, which are mushy crap.

clicka clicka clicka....

Also, sometimes it's nice to plug a console into a serial port.

Re:How much legacy should we carry? (1)

fyonn (115426) | more than 11 years ago | (#4259017)

well, there is no requirement for video to be analogue, I'm using a digital video output (dvi, another connector for you) to connect my gfx card to my tft screen.

dave

Re:How much legacy should we carry? (1)

TummyX (84871) | more than 11 years ago | (#4259178)


Next ones are not on motherboards, but still...---
Analog joystick port (gameport)
VGA output
Audio ports
Ethernet


You can get motherboards with all these onboard.

Re:How much legacy should we carry? (2)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 11 years ago | (#4260052)

I think there's still a place for both USB and firewire. IEEE1394 is wonderful, I'll be glad when it's 3.2 gig and running on fiber, until that day there will still be a place for the latest greatest SCSI standard. There is always more need for lots of disk space and as fast as possible.

But anyway, USB 2.0 and IEEE1394b at at least 800mbps, with multiple buses of each. I really don't want to settle for less than 1.6Gbps on the 1394.

All I really want in a computer (Hey industry types, print this out you cocks, this is the way of the future) is some really super-speedy expansion buses which can be chained out to support legacy shit if I need to, multiple AGP slots (there has to be a way to pull this off, especially what with the stupid fast chips coming out these days), a handful of PCI slots, some good fast firewire, USB 2.0, good built in audio (true 48khz with no auto-resampling except when mixing streams with incompatible rates, optical spdif with at least true 5.1, etc) and, here's my last little fever dream --

Support for as many Hammer CPUs as AMD's new bus allows.

I know it's a wet dream and no one will make this but isn't the idea of this hypertransport bus (anyone remember hyperprotocol? that was tight. hyperp++) to make it painfully easy to do SMP? So just give me a bus which sticks off the side somehow and lets me add more processor modules, so many chips per box, up to the limit of the architecture, which is something like 31 CPUs, right?

I know there's probably not much point to extending the system that way, that you would have to do something really incredible and costly to make a system like that that was done the way you really SHOULD do it. I know that you would probably have to do special optimization to actually make the most out of a SMP configuration that runs along linearly like that. Then again maybe Hammer is the holy f'n grail and I'm wrong, it would be magically fast. But I didn't really think so.

But it would have so much cool factor that as long as it didn't suck every geek with spare cash or who could whore themselves out in some way to get some loose funds would at least think about buying one. The ability to extend out to a whole goddamn bunch of processors would be the most beautiful piece of wankery ever.

I'd buy one for sure, and max it out eventually. Just make sure that the additional modules use really good connectors and support at least four CPUs per module and the modules cost no more than a motherboard. I don't think that that's unreasonable.

Who secure is bluetooth ? (2, Interesting)

Krapangor (533950) | more than 11 years ago | (#4257239)

If it's at WLAN level then goodbye.
Just wait a little and some shithead scriptkiddie prints 2000 black pages on your printer.
And if there is security all this stuff won't some cheaply.

Re:Who secure is bluetooth ? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4257258)

Bluetooth has a top distance of 30 meters outdoors. When you move indoors with walls and computers and people and microwaves, that distance drops quite a bit. So unless you are worried about somebody in your house hacking you, its a non-issue.

Re:Who secure is bluetooth ? (2)

phillymjs (234426) | more than 11 years ago | (#4257319)

So unless you are worried about somebody in your house hacking you, its a non-issue.

Shhh! Don't anybody tell Wes Craven about this!

Police (on phone): "Miss, we managed to trace the IP-- the hacker is accessing your system from... INSIDE THE HOUSE!!!"
Big-breasted teen geek-girl: (shrieks in an ear-splitting manner)

~Philly

Re:Who secure is bluetooth ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4257429)

So.. that means a person can walk around an apartment complex and hack into a lot of equipment easily without having to go into any of the apartments?

Re:Who secure is bluetooth ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4257286)

um, even with access to your wlan, your network services should really be secure enough to prevent access to your printer or other facilities - unless those are windows services!

Re:Who secure is bluetooth ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4257296)

You, too, can become a mensa member !

No, thanks, Crapflinger. I mean, if they'll let someone in who doesn't know the difference between "who" and "how," what's the bloody point?

If it was just a typo, then let me give you a free tip: Don't try to flaunt your intelligence if you're not going to check through your post for embarassing typos that make you look like an idiot, mmmkay?

Re:Who secure is bluetooth ? (2)

Skuld-Chan (302449) | more than 11 years ago | (#4259905)

Just wait a little and some shithead scriptkiddie prints 2000 black pages on your printer.

Hah hah! The jokes on you my printer is off!

A beowulf haiku (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4257240)

Beowulf,
A haiku by Anonymous Coward

"Imagine", I post, [goatse.cx]
"a beowulf cluster of those!",
It's always funny.

Re:A beowulf haiku (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4257306)

be-o-wulf

But wait, theres more..... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4257249)

The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way.Sweet (Score:0)
by miketang16 (miketang15@earthlink.net) on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257130)
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Sounds cool.. can't wait for these to show up.
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Re:Sweet (Score:-1)
by cmdr_shithead on Saturday September 14, @01:13PM (#4257148)
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Hi! Would you like to attend MIT? It's just for people like yourself, you moron.
Mass Inane Turdlicking University [mit.edu]
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Move along, Macintosh faggots... (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:28PM (#4257190) ... this discussion is about computer hardware, which is being carried on among adults. There is nothing for you to see here, much less participate in. Go back to gloating about iPhoto and iTunes and how stupid everyone is who isn't in thrall to Steve Jobs.
Candy-assed fags.
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w00t (Score:-1, Troll)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257131)
linuxisforbitches [linuxisforbitches.com]
w00t
wurd to mah h0miez
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Wo000o000oooo000000000! (Score:-1)
by cmdr_shithead on Saturday September 14, @01:10PM (#4257141)
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goat post 2000;
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"on the precipice of a new chapter" (Score:2)
by Animats (slashdot-replies@downside.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257163)
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Try to get your metaphors unmixed, please.
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pr0n on the go? (Score:1)
by ElQuesoEsViejo on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257164)
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You could bluetooth an external harddrive for even more pr0n for today's geek on the go.
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small remote device (Score:1)
by oliverthered (oliverthered@h o t mail.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:23PM (#4257177)
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This'd be great, ALL you need to do is get some standards agreed and from then on you'd only need 1 remote for you PC. I could cat /dev/bluetooth/ remote and microsoft could DirectRemote it.
Now anyone know how to get the TV and Sound card manufactures to agree on a standard?
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KT400 (Score:1)
by I_am_Rambi on Saturday September 14, @01:26PM (#4257184)
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If you're in the market for a new AMD motherboard, perhaps you should wait and see how the new VIA KT400
Well some of these boards have been tested. According to this article [tomshardware.com] on Toms Hardware [tomshardware.com] the KT400 boards aren't worth it. Interesting benchmarks, that is for sure.
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always been small (Score:2)
by forgoil on Saturday September 14, @01:27PM (#4257187)
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Correct me if I am wrong, but if I remember the guys at Ericsson correctly, the point of bluetooth is that it can be put into almost any piece of electronic gadget, being really small and all. Hence it should appear in just about anything you can imagine.
The problem is that it should have appeared many years ago, I have no real clue on why it has taken such an enormous amount of time to get it to market in anything interesting.
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Re:always been small (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:31PM (#4257202)
'no real clue on why' I susspect patents and licensing agreements are preventing blue tooth from taking off.
IR probably costs 1cent per transmiting device if that.
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ddSRgeerdzfg3wh (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:30PM (#4257199)
r if you might be able to integrate it into a small remote device... But anyway, if a computer upgrade is on the horizon, have a look at this Epox board review and the bluetooth gear it uses."
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Satellites Image Earthquakes
SciencePosted by CowboyNeal on Saturday September 14, @12:03PM
from the plate-tectonics dept.
evilocity writes "A BBC story reports that scientists are now using satellite radar to study earthquakes and fault lines, gathering more data than was ever before possible. Already the findings are challenging current theories, but the practical goal of course is earthquake forecasting."

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WA Wins First Case Against Deceptive Spammer
SpamPosted by CowboyNeal on Saturday September 14, @10:56AM
from the using-the-law-to-filter-your-inbox dept.
GPFCharlie writes "The Seattle Post-Intelligencer is running this article about the first victory by a US state against a spammer. Apparently the judge ruled that a civil trial was not even necessary, since the state had already proven their case. The law was upheld by the WA Supreme Court and an appeal was turned down by the US Supreme Court. Next phase: penalties. How about 5 million hand-written apology letters?"

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War Car Offers Wi-Fi
The InternetPosted by CmdrTaco on Saturday September 14, @09:47AM
from the now-how-does-that-work dept.
NetGyver writes "news.com has an interesting story about public hot-spot operators that use a weapon in protest against the growth of commercial Wi-Fi networks: Michael Oh's "war car." The 1997 Saturn has enough Wi-Fi equipment installed on its bumper and rooftop to create a 150-foot wireless network, said Oh, who helps run a free wireless network covering two Boston city blocks and is one of hundreds of so-called public hot- spot operators who believe Wi-Fi networks and the Internet access they offer should remain free."

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UT2003 Demo Readyr if you might be able to integrate it into a small remote device... But anyway, if a computer upgrade is on the horizon, have a look at this Epox board review and the bluetooth gear it uses."

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Satellites Image Earthquakes
SciencePosted by CowboyNeal on Saturday September 14, @12:03PM
from the plate-tectonics dept.
evilocity writes "A BBC story reports that scientists are now using satellite radar to study earthquakes and fault lines, gathering more data than was ever before possible. Already the findings are challenging current theories, but the practical goal of course is earthquake forecasting."

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WA Wins First Case Against Deceptive Spammer
SpamPosted by CowboyNeal on Saturday September 14, @10:56AM
from the using-the-law-to-filter-your-inbox dept.
GPFCharlie writes "The Seattle Post-Intelligencer is running this article about the first victory by a US state against a spammer. Apparently the judge ruled that a civil trial was not even necessary, since the state had already proven their case. The law was upheld by the WA Supreme Court and an appeal was turned down by the US Supreme Court. Next phase: penalties. How about 5 million hand-written apology letters?"
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War Car Offers Wi-Fi
The InternetPosted by CmdrTaco on Saturday September 14, @09:47AM
from the now-how-does-that-work dept.
NetGyver writes "news.com has an interesting story about public hot-spot operators that use a weapon in protest against the growth of commercial Wi-Fi networks: Michael Oh's "war car." The 1997 Saturn has enough Wi-Fi equipment installed on its bumper and rooftop to create a 150-foot wireless network, said Oh, who helps run a free wireless network covering two Boston city blocks and is one of hundreds of so-called public hot- spot operators who believe Wi-Fi networks and the Internet access they offer should remain free."
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Cool (Score:2)
by mfos.org on Saturday September 14, @01:34PM (#4257208)
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Stick it on a board with some vacuum tubes [aopen.com] and I'll take it.
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you are teh gay (Score:-1)
by SweetAndSourJesus on Saturday September 14, @01:35PM (#4257211)
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at least that's what your mom tells me.
she also says your wang is teeny.
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CTRL+A,C Reply, CTRL+V, Wait 20 secs, Submit (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:39PM (#4257221)
Bluetooth And The Common Motherboard
Posted by timothy on Saturday September 14, @01:07PM
from the no-mandatory-webcam-yet dept.
Just say no to Apple writes "Computers seem to be on the precipice of a new chapter with things like Serial ATA and now bluetooth showing up as standard equipment. Of course the bluetooth kit that comes with this board is really tiny, which makes me wonder if you might be able to integrate it into a small remote device... But anyway, if a computer upgrade is on the horizon, have a look at this Epox board review and the bluetooth gear it uses."
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Sweet (Score:0)
by miketang16 (miketang15@earthlink.net) on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257130)
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Sounds cool.. can't wait for these to show up.
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Re:Sweet by cmdr_shithead (Score:-1) Saturday September 14, @01:13PM
Move along, Macintosh faggots... Saturday September 14, @01:28PM
w00t (Score:-1, Troll)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257131)
linuxisforbitches [linuxisforbitches.com]
w00t
wurd to mah h0miez
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Wo000o000oooo000000000! (Score:-1)
by cmdr_shithead on Saturday September 14, @01:10PM (#4257141)
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goat post 2000;
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"on the precipice of a new chapter" (Score:2)
by Animats (slashdot-replies@downside.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257163)
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Try to get your metaphors unmixed, please.
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pr0n on the go? (Score:1)
by ElQuesoEsViejo on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257164)
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You could bluetooth an external harddrive for even more pr0n for today's geek on the go.
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small remote device (Score:1)
by oliverthered (oliverthered@h o t mail.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:23PM (#4257177)
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This'd be great, ALL you need to do is get some standards agreed and from then on you'd only need 1 remote for you PC. I could cat /dev/bluetooth/ remote and microsoft could DirectRemote it.
Now anyone know how to get the TV and Sound card manufactures to agree on a standard?
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KT400 (Score:1)
by I_am_Rambi on Saturday September 14, @01:26PM (#4257184)
(User #536614 Info | http://slashdot.org/)
If you're in the market for a new AMD motherboard, perhaps you should wait and see how the new VIA KT400
Well some of these boards have been tested. According to this article [tomshardware.com] on Toms Hardware [tomshardware.com] the KT400 boards aren't worth it. Interesting benchmarks, that is for sure.
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always been small (Score:2)
by forgoil on Saturday September 14, @01:27PM (#4257187)
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Correct me if I am wrong, but if I remember the guys at Ericsson correctly, the point of bluetooth is that it can be put into almost any piece of electronic gadget, being really small and all. Hence it should appear in just about anything you can imagine.
The problem is that it should have appeared many years ago, I have no real clue on why it has taken such an enormous amount of time to get it to market in anything interesting.
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Re:always been small Saturday September 14, @01:31PM
ddSRgeerdzfg3wh (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:30PM (#4257199)
r if you might be able to integrate it into a small remote device... But anyway, if a computer upgrade is on the horizon, have a look at this Epox board review and the bluetooth gear it uses."
Read the rest of this comment...
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Advertising? On Slashdot? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:40PM (#4257224)
This looks like another case of advertising in slashdot.
Was there this much of a huzzah when (infinitely more useful) ethernet chips, nvidia video chips, or even SB compatible sound chips were integrated onto motherboards?
They guy that mentioned the motherboard with the vacuum tubes has it right. Somehow, that has the innate property of "coolness," while this mobo has the innate property of "gheyness."
Well, onto the next precipice! I'm jazzed!
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How much legacy should we carry? (Score:1)
by deragon on Saturday September 14, @01:42PM (#4257230)
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As time goes by, more and more ports/connectors add up on my motherboards. When are we going to get ride of ps/2 buses, parallels and serial ports?
So now we would have:
bluetooth
parallel port
serial ports
Serial IDE
Parallel IDE
Firewire
ps2 buses
USB
-- Next ones are not on motherboards, but still...---
Analog joystick port (gameport)
VGA output
Audio ports
Ethernet
Am I missing a port? Keeping legacy ports does add cost on the systems...
I wish we could go by with firewire only. Everything on firewire. HDs, modem, joystick, keyboard... Only analog output like Video and Audio would remain. BTW, most motherboards do not come with Firewire on, but I bet there must be a few out there with it.
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Being fucked up the ass with a traffic cone.... (-1, Troll)

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Sweet (Score:-1, Offtopic)
by miketang16 (miketang15@earthlink.net) on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257130)
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Sounds cool.. can't wait for these to show up.
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Re:Sweet (Score:-1)
by cmdr_shithead on Saturday September 14, @01:13PM (#4257148)
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Hi! Would you like to attend MIT? It's just for people like yourself, you moron.
Mass Inane Turdlicking University [mit.edu]
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Move along, Macintosh faggots... (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:28PM (#4257190) ... this discussion is about computer hardware, which is being carried on among adults. There is nothing for you to see here, much less participate in. Go back to gloating about iPhoto and iTunes and how stupid everyone is who isn't in thrall to Steve Jobs.
Candy-assed fags.
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w00t (Score:-1, Troll)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257131)
linuxisforbitches [linuxisforbitches.com]
w00t
wurd to mah h0miez
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Wo000o000oooo000000000! (Score:-1)
by cmdr_shithead on Saturday September 14, @01:10PM (#4257141)
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goat post 2000;
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"on the precipice of a new chapter" (Score:1, Offtopic)
by Animats (slashdot-replies@downside.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257163)
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Try to get your metaphors unmixed, please.
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pr0n on the go? (Score:0, Offtopic)
by ElQuesoEsViejo on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257164)
(User #81308 Info)
You could bluetooth an external harddrive for even more pr0n for today's geek on the go.
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small remote device (Score:1)
by oliverthered (oliverthered@h o t mail.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:23PM (#4257177)
(User #187439 Info)
This'd be great, ALL you need to do is get some standards agreed and from then on you'd only need 1 remote for you PC. I could cat /dev/bluetooth/ remote and microsoft could DirectRemote it.
Now anyone know how to get the TV and Sound card manufactures to agree on a standard?
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
KT400 (Score:1)
by I_am_Rambi on Saturday September 14, @01:26PM (#4257184)
(User #536614 Info | http://slashdot.org/)
If you're in the market for a new AMD motherboard, perhaps you should wait and see how the new VIA KT400
Well some of these boards have been tested. According to this article [tomshardware.com] on Toms Hardware [tomshardware.com] the KT400 boards aren't worth it. Interesting benchmarks, that is for sure.
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always been small (Score:2)
by forgoil on Saturday September 14, @01:27PM (#4257187)
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Correct me if I am wrong, but if I remember the guys at Ericsson correctly, the point of bluetooth is that it can be put into almost any piece of electronic gadget, being really small and all. Hence it should appear in just about anything you can imagine.
The problem is that it should have appeared many years ago, I have no real clue on why it has taken such an enormous amount of time to get it to market in anything interesting.
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Re:always been small (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:31PM (#4257202)
'no real clue on why' I susspect patents and licensing agreements are preventing blue tooth from taking off.
IR probably costs 1cent per transmiting device if that.
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ddSRgeerdzfg3wh (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:30PM (#4257199)
r if you might be able to integrate it into a small remote device... But anyway, if a computer upgrade is on the horizon, have a look at this Epox board review and the bluetooth gear it uses."
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Satellites Image Earthquakes
SciencePosted by CowboyNeal on Saturday September 14, @12:03PM
from the plate-tectonics dept.
evilocity writes "A BBC story reports that scientists are now using satellite radar to study earthquakes and fault lines, gathering more data than was ever before possible. Already the findings are challenging current theories, but the practical goal of course is earthquake forecasting."

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WA Wins First Case Against Deceptive Spammer
SpamPosted by CowboyNeal on Saturday September 14, @10:56AM
from the using-the-law-to-filter-your-inbox dept.
GPFCharlie writes "The Seattle Post-Intelligencer is running this article about the first victory by a US state against a spammer. Apparently the judge ruled that a civil trial was not even necessary, since the state had already proven their case. The law was upheld by the WA Supreme Court and an appeal was turned down by the US Supreme Court. Next phase: penalties. How about 5 million hand-written apology letters?"

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War Car Offers Wi-Fi
The InternetPosted by CmdrTaco on Saturday September 14, @09:47AM
from the now-how-does-that-work dept.
NetGyver writes "news.com has an interesting story about public hot-spot operators that use a weapon in protest against the growth of commercial Wi-Fi networks: Michael Oh's "war car." The 1997 Saturn has enough Wi-Fi equipment installed on its bumper and rooftop to create a 150-foot wireless network, said Oh, who helps run a free wireless network covering two Boston city blocks and is one of hundreds of so-called public hot- spot operators who believe Wi-Fi networks and the Internet access they offer should remain free."

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UT2003 Demo Readyr if you might be able to integrate it into a small remote device... But anyway, if a computer upgrade is on the horizon, have a look at this Epox board review and the bluetooth gear it uses."

( Read More... | 5 of 10 comments )
Satellites Image Earthquakes
SciencePosted by CowboyNeal on Saturday September 14, @12:03PM
from the plate-tectonics dept.
evilocity writes "A BBC story reports that scientists are now using satellite radar to study earthquakes and fault lines, gathering more data than was ever before possible. Already the findings are challenging current theories, but the practical goal of course is earthquake forecasting."

( Read More... | 14 of 27 comments )
WA Wins First Case Against Deceptive Spammer
SpamPosted by CowboyNeal on Saturday September 14, @10:56AM
from the using-the-law-to-filter-your-inbox dept.
GPFCharlie writes "The Seattle Post-Intelligencer is running this article about the first victory by a US state against a spammer. Apparently the judge ruled that a civil trial was not even necessary, since the state had already proven their case. The law was upheld by the WA Supreme Court and an appeal was turned down by the US Supreme Court. Next phase: penalties. How about 5 million hand-written apology letters?"

( Read More... | 82 of 129 comments )
War Car Offers Wi-Fi
The InternetPosted by CmdrTaco on Saturday September 14, @09:47AM
from the now-how-does-that-work dept.
NetGyver writes "news.com has an interesting story about public hot-spot operators that use a weapon in protest against the growth of commercial Wi-Fi networks: Michael Oh's "war car." The 1997 Saturn has enough Wi-Fi equipment installed on its bumper and rooftop to create a 150-foot wireless network, said Oh, who helps run a free wireless network covering two Boston city blocks and is one of hundreds of so-called public hot- spot operators who believe Wi-Fi networks and the Internet access they offer should remain free."

( Read More... | 45 of 71

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Cool (Score:2)
by mfos.org on Saturday September 14, @01:34PM (#4257208)
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Stick it on a board with some vacuum tubes [aopen.com] and I'll take it.

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you are teh gay (Score:-1)
by SweetAndSourJesus on Saturday September 14, @01:35PM (#4257211)
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at least that's what your mom tells me.

she also says your wang is teeny.

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CTRL+A,C Reply, CTRL+V, Wait 20 secs, Submit (Score:-1)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:39PM (#4257221)

Bluetooth And The Common Motherboard
Posted by timothy on Saturday September 14, @01:07PM
from the no-mandatory-webcam-yet dept.
Just say no to Apple writes "Computers seem to be on the precipice of a new chapter with things like Serial ATA and now bluetooth showing up as standard equipment. Of course the bluetooth kit that comes with this board is really tiny, which makes me wonder if you might be able to integrate it into a small remote device... But anyway, if a computer upgrade is on the horizon, have a look at this Epox board review and the bluetooth gear it uses."
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Sweet (Score:0)
by miketang16 (miketang15@earthlink.net) on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257130)
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Sounds cool.. can't wait for these to show up.
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Re:Sweet by cmdr_shithead (Score:-1) Saturday September 14, @01:13PM
Move along, Macintosh faggots... Saturday September 14, @01:28PM
w00t (Score:-1, Troll)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257131)
linuxisforbitches [linuxisforbitches.com]
w00t
wurd to mah h0miez
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Wo000o000oooo000000000! (Score:-1)
by cmdr_shithead on Saturday September 14, @01:10PM (#4257141)
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goat post 2000;
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"on the precipice of a new chapter" (Score:2)
by Animats (slashdot-replies@downside.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257163)
(User #122034 Info | http://www.animats.com)
Try to get your metaphors unmixed, please.
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pr0n on the go? (Score:1)
by ElQuesoEsViejo on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257164)
(User #81308 Info)
You could bluetooth an external harddrive for even more pr0n for today's geek on the go.
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small remote device (Score:1)
by oliverthered (oliverthered@h o t mail.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:23PM (#4257177)
(User #187439 Info)

This'd be great, ALL you need to do is get some standards agreed and from then on you'd only need 1 remote for you PC. I could cat /dev/bluetooth/ remote and microsoft could DirectRemote it.

Now anyone know how to get the TV and Sound card manufactures to agree on a standard?

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KT400 (Score:1)
by I_am_Rambi on Saturday September 14, @01:26PM (#4257184)
(User #536614 Info | http://slashdot.org/)

If you're in the market for a new AMD motherboard, perhaps you should wait and see how the new VIA KT400

Well some of these boards have been tested. According to this article [tomshardware.com] on Toms Hardware [tomshardware.com] the KT400 boards aren't worth it. Interesting benchmarks, that is for sure.

[ Reply to This | Parent ]

always been small (Score:2)
by forgoil on Saturday September 14, @01:27PM (#4257187)
(User #104808 Info | http://forgoil.fukt.bth.se/)

Correct me if I am wrong, but if I remember the guys at Ericsson correctly, the point of bluetooth is that it can be put into almost any piece of electronic gadget, being really small and all. Hence it should appear in just about anything you can imagine.

The problem is that it should have appeared many years ago, I have no real clue on why it has taken such an enormous amount of time to get it to market in anything interesting.

[ Reply to This | Parent ]

Re:always been small Saturday September 14, @01:31PM

ddSRgeerdzfg3wh (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:30PM (#4257199)

r if you might be able to integrate it into a small remote device... But anyway, if a computer upgrade is on the horizon, have a look at this Epox board review and the bluetooth gear it uses."

Read the rest of this comment...

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Advertising? On Slashdot? (Score:0)

by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:40PM (#4257224)

This looks like another case of advertising in slashdot.

Was there this much of a huzzah when (infinitely more useful) ethernet chips, nvidia video chips, or even SB compatible sound chips were integrated onto motherboards?

They guy that mentioned the motherboard with the vacuum tubes has it right. Somehow, that has the innate property of "coolness," while this mobo has the innate property of "gheyness."

Well, onto the next precipice! I'm jazzed!

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How much legacy should we carry? (Score:1)
by deragon on Saturday September 14, @01:42PM (#4257230)
(User #112986 Info | http://www.deragon.biz/)

As time goes by, more and more ports/connectors add up on my motherboards. When are we going to get ride of ps/2 buses, parallels and serial ports?

So now we would have:

bluetooth
parallel port
serial ports
Serial IDE
Parallel IDE
Firewire
ps2 buses
USB
-- Next ones are not on motherboards, but still...---
Analog joystick port (gameport)
VGA output
Audio ports
Ethernet

Am I missing a port? Keeping legacy ports does add cost on the systems...

I wish we could go by with firewire only. Everything on firewire. HDs, modem, joystick, keyboard... Only analog output like Video and Audio would remain. BTW, most motherboards do not come with Firewire on, but I bet there must be a few out there with it.

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Who secure is bluetooth ? (Score:1)
by Krapangor on Saturday September 14, @01:45PM (#4257239)
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If it's at WLAN level then goodbye.
Just wait a little and some shithead scriptkiddie prints 2000 black pages on your printer.
And if there is security all this stuff won't some cheaply.

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A beowulf haiku (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:47PM (#4257240)

Beowulf,
A haiku by Anonymous Coward

"Imagine", I post,
"a beowulf cluster of those!",
It's always funny.
[goatse.cx]

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But wait, theres more..... (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:49PM (#4257249)

The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way.Sweet (Score:0)
by miketang16 (miketang15@earthlink.net) on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257130)
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Sounds cool.. can't wait for these to show up.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
Re:Sweet (Score:-1)
by cmdr_shithead on Saturday September 14, @01:13PM (#4257148)
(User #527909 Info)
Hi! Would you like to attend MIT? It's just for people like yourself, you moron.
Mass Inane Turdlicking University [mit.edu]
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Move along, Macintosh faggots... (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:28PM (#4257190) ... this discussion is about computer hardware, which is being carried on among adults. There is nothing for you to see here, much less participate in. Go back to gloating about iPhoto and iTunes and how stupid everyone is who isn't in thrall to Steve Jobs.
Candy-assed fags.
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w00t (Score:-1, Troll)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257131)
linuxisforbitches [linuxisforbitches.com]
w00t
wurd to mah h0miez
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Wo000o000oooo000000000! (Score:-1)
by cmdr_shithead on Saturday September 14, @01:10PM (#4257141)
(User #527909 Info)
goat post 2000;
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
"on the precipice of a new chapter" (Score:2)
by Animats (slashdot-replies@downside.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257163)
(User #122034 Info | http://www.animats.com)
Try to get your metaphors unmixed, please.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
pr0n on the go? (Score:1)
by ElQuesoEsViejo on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257164)
(User #81308 Info)
You could bluetooth an external harddrive for even more pr0n for today's geek on the go.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
small remote device (Score:1)
by oliverthered (oliverthered@h o t mail.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:23PM (#4257177)
(User #187439 Info)
This'd be great, ALL you need to do is get some standards agreed and from then on you'd only need 1 remote for you PC. I could cat /dev/bluetooth/ remote and microsoft could DirectRemote it.
Now anyone know how to get the TV and Sound card manufactures to agree on a standard?
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
KT400 (Score:1)
by I_am_Rambi on Saturday September 14, @01:26PM (#4257184)
(User #536614 Info | http://slashdot.org/)
If you're in the market for a new AMD motherboard, perhaps you should wait and see how the new VIA KT400
Well some of these boards have been tested. According to this article [tomshardware.com] on Toms Hardware [tomshardware.com] the KT400 boards aren't worth it. Interesting benchmarks, that is for sure.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
always been small (Score:2)
by forgoil on Saturday September 14, @01:27PM (#4257187)
(User #104808 Info | http://forgoil.fukt.bth.se/)
Correct me if I am wrong, but if I remember the guys at Ericsson correctly, the point of bluetooth is that it can be put into almost any piece of electronic gadget, being really small and all. Hence it should appear in just about anything you can imagine.
The problem is that it should have appeared many years ago, I have no real clue on why it has taken such an enormous amount of time to get it to market in anything interesting.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
Re:always been small (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:31PM (#4257202)
'no real clue on why' I susspect patents and licensing agreements are preventing blue tooth from taking off.
IR probably costs 1cent per transmiting device if that.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
ddSRgeerdzfg3wh (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:30PM (#4257199)
r if you might be able to integrate it into a small remote device... But anyway, if a computer upgrade is on the horizon, have a look at this Epox

Read the rest of this comment...

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Slashdot strikes again (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4257270)

Dammit. I was just about to go to the last page their Final Thoughts and the site gets slashdotted. Fucking Hey.

Your post (-1, Troll)

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Sweet (Score:-1, Offtopic)
by miketang16 (miketang15@earthlink.net) on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257130)
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Sounds cool.. can't wait for these to show up.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
Re:Sweet (Score:-1)
by cmdr_shithead on Saturday September 14, @01:13PM (#4257148)
(User #527909 Info)
Hi! Would you like to attend MIT? It's just for people like yourself, you moron.
Mass Inane Turdlicking University [mit.edu]
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
Move along, Macintosh faggots... (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:28PM (#4257190) ... this discussion is about computer hardware, which is being carried on among adults. There is nothing for you to see here, much less participate in. Go back to gloating about iPhoto and iTunes and how stupid everyone is who isn't in thrall to Steve Jobs.
Candy-assed fags.
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w00t (Score:-1, Troll)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257131)
linuxisforbitches [linuxisforbitches.com]
w00t
wurd to mah h0miez
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Wo000o000oooo000000000! (Score:-1)

by cmdr_shithead on Saturday September 14, @01:10PM (#4257141)
(User #527909 Info)

goat post 2000;

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"on the precipice of a new chapter" (Score:1, Offtopic)
by Animats (slashdot-replies@downside.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257163)
(User #122034 Info | http://www.animats.com)

Try to get your metaphors unmixed, please.

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pr0n on the go? (Score:0, Offtopic)
by ElQuesoEsViejo on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257164)
(User #81308 Info)
You could bluetooth an external harddrive for even more pr0n for today's geek on the go.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
small remote device (Score:1)
by oliverthered (oliverthered@h o t mail.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:23PM (#4257177)
(User #187439 Info)
This'd be great, ALL you need to do is get some standards agreed and from then on you'd only need 1 remote for you PC. I could cat /dev/bluetooth/ remote and microsoft could DirectRemote it.
Now anyone know how to get the TV and Sound card manufactures to agree on a standard?
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
KT400 (Score:1)
by I_am_Rambi on Saturday September 14, @01:26PM (#4257184)
(User #536614 Info | http://slashdot.org/)
If you're in the market for a new AMD motherboard, perhaps you should wait and see how the new VIA KT400
Well some of these boards have been tested. According to this article [tomshardware.com] on Toms Hardware [tomshardware.com] the KT400 boards aren't worth it. Interesting benchmarks, that is for sure.
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always been small (Score:2)
by forgoil on Saturday September 14, @01:27PM (#4257187)
(User #104808 Info | http://forgoil.fukt.bth.se/)
Correct me if I am wrong, but if I remember the guys at Ericsson correctly, the point of bluetooth is that it can be put into almost any piece of electronic gadget, being really small and all. Hence it should appear in just about anything you can imagine.
The problem is that it should have appeared many years ago, I have no real clue on why it has taken such an enormous amount of time to get it to market in anything interesting.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
Re:always been small (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Satrday September 14, @01:31PM (#4257202)
'no real clue on why' I susspect patents and licensing agreements are preventing blue tooth from taking off.
IR probably costs 1cent per transmiting device if that.
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small amount of power (Score:2)
by johnjones (johnjones@postmaster.co.uk) on Saturday September 14, @01:51PM (#4257253)
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bluetooth has always been about low power
this meassn that it can be put into phones
and washing machines, fridges, microwaves and of course keyboards, mice and microphones/speakers
Microsoft next keyboards are to be wireless and bluetooth
bluetooth is about short range low power 802.11b is about high power, long range and high bandwidth
bluetooth is pretty sweet its really the software that holding things back because their are lots of devices now
it terms of volume more bluetooth devices are made each day than 802.11b in a year
(pinch of salt bluetooth sig no. but a good idea about the volume)
regards
John Jones
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Re:always been small (Score:1)
by Neuro2000 on Saturday September 14, @01:52PM (#4257259)
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I work for Anritsu, in the same engineering group that manufactures the Anritsu MT8850A Bluetooth production Test Box. Its taken this long to get the different chipset correctly working together. It wasn't until Version 1.1 when people had stable Radio's and Stable protocol working! Other smaller companies are struggling to get their implimentation of bluetooth working. BTW. BlueCore02 from CSR is a very good Bluetooth device.

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ddSRgeerdzfg3wh (Score:-1, Troll)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:30PM (#4257199)

r if you might be able to integrate it into a small remote device... But anyway, if a computer upgrade is on the horizon, have a look at this Epox board review and the bluetooth gear it uses."

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Satellites Image Earthquakes
SciencePosted by CowboyNeal on Saturday September 14, @12:03PM
from the plate-tectonics dept.
evilocity writes "A BBC story reports that scientists are now using satellite radar to study earthquakes and fault lines, gathering more data than was ever before possible. Already the findings are challenging current theories, but the practical goal of course is earthquake forecasting."

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WA Wins First Case Against Deceptive Spammer
SpamPosted by CowboyNeal on Saturday September 14, @10:56AM
from the using-the-law-to-filter-your-inbox dept.
GPFCharlie writes "The Seattle Post-Intelligencer is running this article about the first victory by a US state against a spammer. Apparently the judge ruled that a civil trial was not even necessary, since the state had already proven their case. The law was upheld by the WA Supreme Court and an appeal was turned down by the US Supreme Court. Next phase: penalties. How about 5 million hand-written apology letters?"

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War Car Offers Wi-Fi
The InternetPosted by CmdrTaco on Saturday September 14, @09:47AM
from the now-how-does-that-work dept.
NetGyver writes "news.com has an interesting story about public hot-spot operators that use a weapon in protest against the growth of commercial Wi-Fi networks: Michael Oh's "war car." The 1997 Saturn has enough Wi-Fi equipment installed on its bumper and rooftop to create a 150-foot wireless network, said Oh, who helps run a free wireless network covering two Boston city blocks and is one of hundreds of so-called public hot- spot operators who believe Wi-Fi networks and the Internet access they offer should remain free."

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UT2003 Demo Readyr if you might be able to integrate it into a small remote device... But anyway, if a computer upgrade is on the horizon, have a look at this Epox board review and the bluetooth gear it uses."

( Read More... | 5 of 10 comments )
Satellites Image Earthquakes
SciencePosted by CowboyNeal on Saturday September 14, @12:03PM
from the plate-tectonics dept.
evilocity writes "A BBC story reports that scientists are now using satellite radar to study earthquakes and fault lines, gathering more data than was ever before possible. Already the findings are challenging current theories, but the practical goal of course is earthquake forecasting."
( Read More... | 14 of 27 comments )
WA Wins First Case Against Deceptive Spammer
SpamPosted by CowboyNeal on Saturday September 14, @10:56AM
from the using-the-law-to-filter-your-inbox dept.
GPFCharlie writes "The Seattle Post-Intelligencer is running this article about the first victory by a US state against a spammer. Apparently the judge ruled that a civil trial was not even necessary, since the state had already proven their case. The law was upheld by the WA Supreme Court and an appeal was turned down by the US Supreme Court. Next phase: penalties. How about 5 million hand-written apology letters?"

( Read More... | 82 of 129 comments )
War Car Offers Wi-Fi
The InternetPosted by CmdrTaco on Saturday September 14, @09:47AM
from the now-how-does-that-work dept.
NetGyver writes "news.com has an interesting story about public hot-spot operators that use a weapon in protest against the growth of commercial Wi-Fi networks: Michael Oh's "war car." The 1997 Saturn has enough Wi-Fi equipment installed on its bumper and rooftop to create a 150-foot wireless network, said Oh, who helps run a free wireless network covering two Boston city blocks and is one of hundreds of so-called public hot- spot operators who believe Wi-Fi networks and the Internet access they offer should remain free."
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Cool (Score:2)
by mfos.org on Saturday September 14, @01:34PM (#4257208)
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Stick it on a board with some vacuum tubes [aopen.com] and I'll take it.
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you are teh gay (Score:-1)
by SweetAndSourJesus on Saturday September 14, @01:35PM (#4257211)
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at least that's what your mom tells me.
she also says your wang is teeny.
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CTRL+A,C Reply, CTRL+V, Wait 20 secs, Submit (Score:-1)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:39PM (#4257221)
Bluetooth And The Common Motherboard
Posted by timothy on Saturday September 14, @01:07PM
from the no-mandatory-webcam-yet dept.
Just say no to Apple writes "Computers seem to be on the precipice of a new chapter with things like Serial ATA and now bluetooth showing up as standard equipment. Of course the bluetooth kit that comes with this board is really tiny, which makes me wonder if you might be able to integrate it into a small remote device... But anyway, if a computer upgrade is on the horizon, have a look at this Epox board review and the bluetooth gear it uses."
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Sweet (Score:0)
by miketang16 (miketang15@earthlink.net) on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257130)
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Sounds cool.. can't wait for these to show up.
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Re:Sweet by cmdr_shithead (Score:-1) Saturday September 14, @01:13PM
Move along, Macintosh faggots... Saturday September 14, @01:28PM
w00t (Score:-1, Troll)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257131)
linuxisforbitches [linuxisforbitches.com]
w00t
wurd to mah h0miez
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Wo000o000oooo000000000! (Score:-1)
by cmdr_shithead on Saturday September 14, @01:10PM (#4257141)
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goat post 2000;
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"on the precipice of a new chapter" (Score:2)
by Animats (slashdot-replies@downside.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257163)
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Try to get your metaphors unmixed, please.
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pr0n on the go? (Score:1)
by ElQuesoEsViejo on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257164)
(User #81308 Info)
You could bluetooth an external harddrive for even more pr0n for today's geek on the go.
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small remote device (Score:1)
by oliverthered (oliverthered@h o t mail.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:23PM (#4257177)
(User #187439 Info)

This'd be great, ALL you need to do is get some standards agreed and from then on you'd only need 1 remote for you PC. I could cat /dev/bluetooth/ remote and microsoft could DirectRemote it.

Now anyone know how to get the TV and Sound card manufactures to agree on a standard?

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KT400 (Score:1)
by I_am_Rambi on Saturday September 14, @01:26PM (#4257184)
(User #536614 Info | http://slashdot.org/)

If you're in the market for a new AMD motherboard, perhaps you should wait and see how the new VIA KT400

Well some of these boards have been tested. According to this article [tomshardware.com] on Toms Hardware [tomshardware.com] the KT400 boards aren't worth it. Interesting benchmarks, that is for sure.

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always been small (Score:2)
by forgoil on Saturday September 14, @01:27PM (#4257187)
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Correct me if I am wrong, but if I remember the guys at Ericsson correctly, the point of bluetooth is that it can be put into almost any piece of electronic gadget, being really small and all. Hence it should appear in just about anything you can imagine.

The problem is that it should have appeared many years ago, I have no real clue on why it has taken such an enormous amount of time to get it to market in anything interesting.

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Re:always been small Saturday September 14, @01:31PM

ddSRgeerdzfg3wh (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:30PM (#4257199)

r if you might be able to integrate it into a small remote device... But anyway, if a computer upgrade is on the horizon, have a look at this Epox board review and the bluetooth gear it uses."

Read the rest of this comment...

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Advertising? On Slashdot? (Score:0)

by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:40PM (#4257224)

This looks like another case of advertising in slashdot.

Was there this much of a huzzah when (infinitely more useful) ethernet chips, nvidia video chips, or even SB compatible sound chips were integrated onto motherboards?

They guy that mentioned the motherboard with the vacuum tubes has it right. Somehow, that has the innate property of "coolness," while this mobo has the innate property of "gheyness."

Well, onto the next precipice! I'm jazzed!

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How much legacy should we carry? (Score:1)
by deragon on Saturday September 14, @01:42PM (#4257230)
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As time goes by, more and more ports/connectors add up on my motherboards. When are we going to get ride of ps/2 buses, parallels and serial ports?

So now we would have:

bluetooth
parallel port
serial ports
Serial IDE
Parallel IDE
Firewire
ps2 buses
USB
-- Next ones are not on motherboards, but still...---
Analog joystick port (gameport)
VGA output
Audio ports
Ethernet

Am I missing a port? Keeping legacy ports does add cost on the systems...

I wish we could go by with firewire only. Everything on firewire. HDs, modem, joystick, keyboard... Only analog output like Video and Audio would remain. BTW, most motherboards do not come with Firewire on, but I bet there must be a few out there with it.

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Re:How much legacy should we carry? (Score:0)
by chez69 on Saturday September 14, @01:52PM (#4257255)
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Firewire is overkill for a whole lot of things (keyboards, mice, joysticks ) and not fast enough for others ( hard drives ).

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Who secure is bluetooth ? (Score:1)

by Krapangor on Saturday September 14, @01:45PM (#4257239)
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If it's at WLAN level then goodbye.
Just wait a little and some shithead scriptkiddie prints 2000 black pages on your printer.
And if there is security all this stuff won't some cheaply.

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Re:Who secure is bluetooth ? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:52PM (#4257258)

Bluetooth has a top distance of 30 meters outdoors. When you move indoors with walls and computers and people and microwaves, that distance drops quite a bit. So unless you are worried about somebody in your house hacking you, its a non-issue.

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A beowulf haiku (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:47PM (#4257240)

Beowulf,
A haiku by Anonymous Coward

"Imagine", I post,
"a beowulf cluster of those!",
It's always funny.
[goatse.cx]

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But wait, theres more..... (Score:-1, Troll)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:49PM (#4257249)

The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way.Sweet (Score:0)
by miketang16 (miketang15@earthlink.net) on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257130)
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Sounds cool.. can't wait for these to show up.
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Re:Sweet (Score:-1)
by cmdr_shithead on Saturday September 14, @01:13PM (#4257148)
(User #527909 Info)
Hi! Would you like to attend MIT? It's just for people like yourself, you moron.
Mass Inane Turdlicking University [mit.edu]
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Move along, Macintosh faggots... (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:28PM (#4257190) ... this discussion is about computer hardware, which is being carried on among adults. There is nothing for you to see here, much less participate in. Go back to gloating about iPhoto and iTunes and how stupid everyone is who isn't in thrall to Steve Jobs.
Candy-assed fags.
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w00t (Score:-1, Troll)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257131)
linuxisforbitches [linuxisforbitches.com]
w00t
wurd to mah h0miez
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Wo000o000oooo000000000! (Score:-1)
by cmdr_shithead on Saturday September 14, @01:10PM (#4257141)
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goat post 2000;
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"on the precipice of a new chapter" (Score:2)
by Animats (slashdot-replies@downside.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257163)
(User #122034 Info | http://www.animats.com)
Try to get your metaphors unmixed, please.
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pr0n on the go? (Score:1)
by ElQuesoEsViejo on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257164)
(User #81308 Info)
You could bluetooth an external harddrive for even more pr0n for today's geek on the go.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
small remote device (Score:1)
by oliverthered (oliverthered@h o t mail.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:23PM (#4257177)
(User #187439 Info)
This'd be great, ALL you need to do is get some standards agreed and from then on you'd only need 1 remote for you PC. I could cat /dev/bluetooth/ remote and microsoft could DirectRemote it.
Now anyone know how to get the TV and Sound card manufactures to agree on a standard?
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KT400 (Score:1)
by I_am_Rambi on Saturday September 14, @01:26PM (#4257184)
(User #536614 Info | http://slashdot.org/)
If you're in the market for a new AMD motherboard, perhaps you should wait and see how the new VIA KT400
Well some of these boards have been tested. According to this article [tomshardware.com] on Toms Hardware [tomshardware.com] the KT400 boards aren't worth it. Interesting benchmarks, that is for sure.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
always been small (Score:2)
by forgoil on Saturday September 14, @01:27PM (#4257187)
(User #104808 Info | http://forgoil.fukt.bth.se/)
Correct me if I am wrong, but if I remember the guys at Ericsson correctly, the point of bluetooth is that it can be put into almost any piece of electronic gadget, being really small and all. Hence it should appear in just about anything you can imagine.
The problem is that it should have appeared many years ago, I have no real clue on why it has taken such an enormous amount of time to get it to market in anything interesting.
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Re:always been small (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:31PM (#4257202)
'no real clue on why' I susspect patents and licensing agreements are preventing blue tooth from taking off.
IR probably costs 1cent per transmiting device if that.
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ddSRgeerdzfg3wh (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:30PM (#4257199)
r if you might be able to integrate it into a small remote device... But anyway, if a computer upgrade is on the horizon, have a look at this Epox

Read the rest of this comment...

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Being fucked up the ass with a traffic cone.... (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:53PM (#4257262)

Sweet (Score:-1, Offtopic)
by miketang16 (miketang15@earthlink.net) on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257130)
(User #585602 Info | http://www.dtcwebdesign.com/)
Sounds cool.. can't wait for these to show up.
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Re:Sweet (Score:-1)
by cmdr_shithead on Saturday September 14, @01:13PM (#4257148)
(User #527909 Info)
Hi! Would you like to attend MIT? It's just for people like yourself, you moron.
Mass Inane Turdlicking University [mit.edu]
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
Move along, Macintosh faggots... (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:28PM (#4257190) ... this discussion is about computer hardware, which is being carried on among adults. There is nothing for you to see here, much less participate in. Go back to gloating about iPhoto and iTunes and how stupid everyone is who isn't in thrall to Steve Jobs.
Candy-assed fags.
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w00t (Score:-1, Troll)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257131)
linuxisforbitches [linuxisforbitches.com]
w00t
wurd to mah h0miez
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Wo000o000oooo000000000! (Score:-1)
by cmdr_shithead on Saturday September 14, @01:10PM (#4257141)
(User #527909 Info)
goat post 2000;
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
"on the precipice of a new chapter" (Score:1, Offtopic)
by Animats (slashdot-replies@downside.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257163)
(User #122034 Info | http://www.animats.com)
Try to get your metaphors unmixed, please.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
pr0n on the go? (Score:0, Offtopic)
by ElQuesoEsViejo on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257164)
(User #81308 Info)
You could bluetooth an external harddrive for even more pr0n for today's geek on the go.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
small remote device (Score:1)
by oliverthered (oliverthered@h o t mail.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:23PM (#4257177)
(User #187439 Info)
This'd be great, ALL you need to do is get some standards agreed and from then on you'd only need 1 remote for you PC. I could cat /dev/bluetooth/ remote and microsoft could DirectRemote it.
Now anyone know how to get the TV and Sound card manufactures to agree on a standard?
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
KT400 (Score:1)
by I_am_Rambi on Saturday September 14, @01:26PM (#4257184)
(User #536614 Info | http://slashdot.org/)
If you're in the market for a new AMD motherboard, perhaps you should wait and see how the new VIA KT400
Well some of these boards have been tested. According to this article [tomshardware.com] on Toms Hardware [tomshardware.com] the KT400 boards aren't worth it. Interesting benchmarks, that is for sure.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
always been small (Score:2)
by forgoil on Saturday September 14, @01:27PM (#4257187)
(User #104808 Info | http://forgoil.fukt.bth.se/)
Correct me if I am wrong, but if I remember the guys at Ericsson correctly, the point of bluetooth is that it can be put into almost any piece of electronic gadget, being really small and all. Hence it should appear in just about anything you can imagine.
The problem is that it should have appeared many years ago, I have no real clue on why it has taken such an enormous amount of time to get it to market in anything interesting.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
Re:always been small (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:31PM (#4257202)
'no real clue on why' I susspect patents and licensing agreements are preventing blue tooth from taking off.
IR probably costs 1cent per transmiting device if that.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
ddSRgeerdzfg3wh (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:30PM (#4257199)
r if you might be able to integrate it into a small remote device... But anyway, if a computer upgrade is on the horizon, have a look at this Epox board review and the bluetooth gear it uses."
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Its hard to remove the whitespace from this shit (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4257291)

weet (Score:-1, Offtopic)
by miketang16 (miketang15@earthlink.net) on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257130)
(User #585602 Info | http://www.dtcwebdesign.com/)
Sounds cool.. can't wait for these to show up.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
Re:Sweet (Score:-1)
by cmdr_shithead on Saturday September 14, @01:13PM (#4257148)
(User #527909 Info)
Hi! Would you like to attend MIT? It's just for people like yourself, you moron.
Mass Inane Turdlicking University [mit.edu]
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
Move along, Macintosh faggots... (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:28PM (#4257190) ... this discussion is about computer hardware, which is being carried on among adults. There is nothing for you to see here, much less participate in. Go back to gloating about iPhoto and iTunes and how stupid everyone is who isn't in thrall to Steve Jobs.
Candy-assed fags.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
w00t (Score:-1, Troll)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257131)
linuxisforbitches [linuxisforbitches.com]
w00t
wurd to mah h0miez
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
Wo000o000oooo000000000! (Score:-1)
by cmdr_shithead on Saturday September 14, @01:10PM (#4257141)
(User #527909 Info
goat post 2000;
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
"on the precipice of a new chapter" (Score:1, Offtopic)
by Animats (slashdot-replies@downside.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257163)
(User #122034 Info | http://www.animats.com)
Try to get your metaphors unmixed, please.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
FUCK THE MODERATORS (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:57PM (#4257278)
who cares if it's Offtopic? All you mods are on crack. That comment was funn.y
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
pr0n on the go? (Score:0, Offtopic)
by ElQuesoEsViejo on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257164)
(User #81308 Info)
You could bluetooth an external harddrive for even more pr0n for today's geek on the go.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
small remote device (Score:1)
by oliverthered (oliverthered@h o t mail.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:23PM (#4257177)
(User #187439 Info)
This'd be great, ALL you need to do is get some standards agreed and from then on you'd only need 1 remote for you PC. I could cat /dev/bluetooth/ remote and microsoft could DirectRemote it.
Now anyone know how to get the TV and Sound card manufactures to agree on a standard?
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
KT400 (Score:1)
by I_am_Rambi on Saturday September 14, @01:26PM (#4257184)
(User #536614 Info | http://slashdot.org/)
If you're in the market for a new AMD motherboard, perhaps you should wait and see how the new VIA KT400
Well some of these boards have been tested. According to this article [tomshardware.com] on Toms Hardware [tomshardware.com] the KT400 boards aren't worth it. Interesting benchmarks, that is for sure.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
always been small (Score:2)
by forgoil on Saturday September 14, @01:27PM (#4257187)
(User #104808 Info | http://forgoil.fukt.bth.se/)
Correct me if I am wrong, but if I remember the guys at Ericsson correctly, the point of bluetooth is that it can be put into almost any piece of electronic gadget, being really small and all. Hence it should appear in just about anything you can imagine.
The problem is that it should have appeared many years ago, I have no real clue on why it has taken such an enormous amount of time to get it to market in anything interesting.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
Re:always been small (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:31PM (#4257202)
'no real clue on why' I susspect patents and licensing agreements are preventing blue tooth from taking off.
IR probably costs 1cent per transmiting device if that.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]

small amount of power (Score:2)

by johnjones (johnjones@postmaster.co.uk) on Saturday September 14, @01:51PM (#4257253)
(User #14274 Info | http://www.john-jones.org.uk/ | Last Journal: Thursday May 23, @08:03PM)

bluetooth has always been about low power

this meassn that it can be put into phones
and washing machines, fridges, microwaves and of course keyboards, mice and microphones/speakers

Microsoft next keyboards are to be wireless and bluetooth

bluetooth is about short range low power 802.11b is about high power, long range and high bandwidth

bluetooth is pretty sweet its really the software that holding things back because their are lots of devices now

it terms of volume more bluetooth devices are made each day than 802.11b in a year
(pinch of salt bluetooth sig no. but a good idea about the volume)

regards

John Jones

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Re:always been small (Score:1)

by Neuro2000 on Saturday September 14, @01:52PM (#4257259)
(User #594273 Info)

I work for Anritsu, in the same engineering group that manufactures the Anritsu MT8850A Bluetooth production Test Box. Its taken this long to get the different chipset correctly working together. It wasn't until Version 1.1 when people had stable Radio's and Stable protocol working! Other smaller companies are struggling to get their implimentation of bluetooth working. BTW. BlueCore02 from CSR is a very good Bluetooth device.

[ Reply to This | Parent ]

ddSRgeerdzfg3wh (Score:-1, Troll)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:30PM (#4257199)

r if you might be able to integrate it into a small remote device... But anyway, if a computer upgrade is on the horizon, have a look at this Epox board review and the bluetooth gear it uses."

( Read More... | 5 of 10 comments )
Satellites Image Earthquakes
SciencePosted by CowboyNeal on Saturday September 14, @12:03PM
from the plate-tectonics dept.
evilocity writes "A BBC story reports that scientists are now using satellite radar to study earthquakes and fault lines, gathering more data than was ever before possible. Already the findings are challenging current theories, but the practical goal of course is earthquake forecasting."

( Read More... | 14 of 27 comments )
WA Wins First Case Against Deceptive Spammer
SpamPosted by CowboyNeal on Saturday September 14, @10:56AM
from the using-the-law-to-filter-your-inbox dept.
GPFCharlie writes "The Seattle Post-Intelligencer is running this article about the first victory by a US state against a spammer. Apparently the judge ruled that a civil trial was not even necessary, since the state had already proven their case. The law was upheld by the WA Supreme Court and an appeal was turned down by the US Supreme Court. Next phase: penalties. How about 5 million hand-written apology letters?"

( Read More... | 82 of 129 comments )
War Car Offers Wi-Fi
The InternetPosted by CmdrTaco on Saturday September 14, @09:47AM
from the now-how-does-that-work dept.
NetGyver writes "news.com has an interesting story about public hot-spot operators that use a weapon in protest against the growth of commercial Wi-Fi networks: Michael Oh's "war car." The 1997 Saturn has enough Wi-Fi equipment installed on its bumper and rooftop to create a 150-foot wireless network, said Oh, who helps run a free wireless network covering two Boston city blocks and is one of hundreds of so-called public hot- spot operators who believe Wi-Fi networks and the Internet access they offer should remain free."

( Read More... | 45 of 71 comments )
UT2003 Demo Readyr if you might be able to integrate it into a small remote device... But anyway, if a computer upgrade is on the horizon, have a look at this Epox board review and the bluetooth gear it uses."

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Satellites Image Earthquakes
SciencePosted by CowboyNeal on Saturday September 14, @12:03PM
from the plate-tectonics dept.
evilocity writes "A BBC story reports that scientists are now using satellite radar to study earthquakes and fault lines, gathering more data than was ever before possible. Already the findings are challenging current theories, but the practical goal of course is earthquake forecasting."

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WA Wins First Case Against Deceptive Spammer
SpamPosted by CowboyNeal on Saturday September 14, @10:56AM
from the using-the-law-to-filter-your-inbox dept.
GPFCharlie writes "The Seattle Post-Intelligencer is running this article about the first victory by a US state against a spammer. Apparently the judge ruled that a civil trial was not even necessary, since the state had already proven their case. The law was upheld by the WA Supreme Court and an appeal was turned down by the US Supreme Court. Next phase: penalties. How about 5 million hand-written apology letters?"

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War Car Offers Wi-Fi
The InternetPosted by CmdrTaco on Saturday September 14, @09:47AM
from the now-how-does-that-work dept.
NetGyver writes "news.com has an interesting story about public hot-spot operators that use a weapon in protest against the growth of commercial Wi-Fi networks: Michael Oh's "war car." The 1997 Saturn has enough Wi-Fi equipment installed on its bumper and rooftop to create a 150-foot wireless network, said Oh, who helps run a free wireless network covering two Boston city blocks and is one of hundreds of so-called public hot- spot operators who believe Wi-Fi networks and the Internet access they offer should remain free."

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Cool (Score:2)
by mfos.org on Saturday September 14, @01:34PM (#4257208)
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Stick it on a board with some vacuum tubes [aopen.com] and I'll take it.

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you are teh gay (Score:-1)
by SweetAndSourJesus on Saturday September 14, @01:35PM (#4257211)
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at least that's what your mom tells me.

she also says your wang is teeny.

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CTRL+A,C Reply, CTRL+V, Wait 20 secs, Submit (Score:-1)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:39PM (#4257221)

Bluetooth And The Common Motherboard
Posted by timothy on Saturday September 14, @01:07PM
from the no-mandatory-webcam-yet dept.
Just say no to Apple writes "Computers seem to be on the precipice of a new chapter with things like Serial ATA and now bluetooth showing up as standard equipment. Of course the bluetooth kit that comes with this board is really tiny, which makes me wonder if you might be able to integrate it into a small remote device... But anyway, if a computer upgrade is on the horizon, have a look at this Epox board review and the bluetooth gear it uses."
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Sweet (Score:0)
by miketang16 (miketang15@earthlink.net) on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257130)
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Sounds cool.. can't wait for these to show up.
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Re:Sweet by cmdr_shithead (Score:-1) Saturday September 14, @01:13PM
Move along, Macintosh faggots... Saturday September 14, @01:28PM
w00t (Score:-1, Troll)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257131)
linuxisforbitches [linuxisforbitches.com]
w00t
wurd to mah h0miez
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Wo000o000oooo000000000! (Score:-1)
by cmdr_shithead on Saturday September 14, @01:10PM (#4257141)
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goat post 2000;
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"on the precipice of a new chapter" (Score:2)
by Animats (slashdot-replies@downside.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257163)
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Try to get your metaphors unmixed, please.
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pr0n on the go? (Score:1)
by ElQuesoEsViejo on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257164)
(User #81308 Info)
You could bluetooth an external harddrive for even more pr0n for today's geek on the go.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
small remote device (Score:1)
by oliverthered (oliverthered@h o t mail.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:23PM (#4257177)
(User #187439 Info)

This'd be great, ALL you need to do is get some standards agreed and from then on you'd only need 1 remote for you PC. I could cat /dev/bluetooth/ remote and microsoft could DirectRemote it.

Now anyone know how to get the TV and Sound card manufactures to agree on a standard?

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KT400 (Score:1)
by I_am_Rambi on Saturday September 14, @01:26PM (#4257184)
(User #536614 Info | http://slashdot.org/)

If you're in the market for a new AMD motherboard, perhaps you should wait and see how the new VIA KT400

Well some of these boards have been tested. According to this article [tomshardware.com] on Toms Hardware [tomshardware.com] the KT400 boards aren't worth it. Interesting benchmarks, that is for sure.

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always been small (Score:2)
by forgoil on Saturday September 14, @01:27PM (#4257187)
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Correct me if I am wrong, but if I remember the guys at Ericsson correctly, the point of bluetooth is that it can be put into almost any piece of electronic gadget, being really small and all. Hence it should appear in just about anything you can imagine.

The problem is that it should have appeared many years ago, I have no real clue on why it has taken such an enormous amount of time to get it to market in anything interesting.

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Re:always been small Saturday September 14, @01:31PM

ddSRgeerdzfg3wh (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:30PM (#4257199)

r if you might be able to integrate it into a small remote device... But anyway, if a computer upgrade is on the horizon, have a look at this Epox board review and the bluetooth gear it uses."

Read the rest of this comment...

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Advertising? On Slashdot? (Score:0)

by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:40PM (#4257224)

This looks like another case of advertising in slashdot.

Was there this much of a huzzah when (infinitely more useful) ethernet chips, nvidia video chips, or even SB compatible sound chips were integrated onto motherboards?

They guy that mentioned the motherboard with the vacuum tubes has it right. Somehow, that has the innate property of "coolness," while this mobo has the innate property of "gheyness."

Well, onto the next precipice! I'm jazzed!

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How much legacy should we carry? (Score:1)
by deragon on Saturday September 14, @01:42PM (#4257230)
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As time goes by, more and more ports/connectors add up on my motherboards. When are we going to get ride of ps/2 buses, parallels and serial ports?

So now we would have:

bluetooth
parallel port
serial ports
Serial IDE
Parallel IDE
Firewire
ps2 buses
USB
-- Next ones are not on motherboards, but still...---
Analog joystick port (gameport)
VGA output
Audio ports
Ethernet

Am I missing a port? Keeping legacy ports does add cost on the systems...

I wish we could go by with firewire only. Everything on firewire. HDs, modem, joystick, keyboard... Only analog output like Video and Audio would remain. BTW, most motherboards do not come with Firewire on, but I bet there must be a few out there with it.

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Re:How much legacy should we carry? (Score:0)
by chez69 on Saturday September 14, @01:52PM (#4257255)
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Firewire is overkill for a whole lot of things (keyboards, mice, joysticks ) and not fast enough for others ( hard drives ).

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Who secure is bluetooth ? (Score:1)

by Krapangor on Saturday September 14, @01:45PM (#4257239)
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If it's at WLAN level then goodbye.
Just wait a little and some shithead scriptkiddie prints 2000 black pages on your printer.
And if there is security all this stuff won't some cheaply.

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Re:Who secure is bluetooth ? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:52PM (#4257258)

Bluetooth has a top distance of 30 meters outdoors. When you move indoors with walls and computers and people and microwaves, that distance drops quite a bit. So unless you are worried about somebody in your house hacking you, its a non-issue.

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A beowulf haiku (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:47PM (#4257240)

Beowulf,
A haiku by Anonymous Coward

"Imagine", I post,
"a beowulf cluster of those!",
It's always funny.
[goatse.cx]

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But wait, theres more..... (Score:-1, Troll)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:49PM (#4257249)

The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way.Sweet (Score:0)
by miketang16 (miketang15@earthlink.net) on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257130)
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Sounds cool.. can't wait for these to show up.
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Re:Sweet (Score:-1)
by cmdr_shithead on Saturday September 14, @01:13PM (#4257148)
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Hi! Would you like to attend MIT? It's just for people like yourself, you moron.
Mass Inane Turdlicking University [mit.edu]
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Move along, Macintosh faggots... (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:28PM (#4257190) ... this discussion is about computer hardware, which is being carried on among adults. There is nothing for you to see here, much less participate in. Go back to gloating about iPhoto and iTunes and how stupid everyone is who isn't in thrall to Steve Jobs.
Candy-assed fags.
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w00t (Score:-1, Troll)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257131)
linuxisforbitches [linuxisforbitches.com]
w00t
wurd to mah h0miez
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Wo000o000oooo000000000! (Score:-1)
by cmdr_shithead on Saturday September 14, @01:10PM (#4257141)
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goat post 2000;
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
"on the precipice of a new chapter" (Score:2)
by Animats (slashdot-replies@downside.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257163)
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Try to get your metaphors unmixed, please.
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pr0n on the go? (Score:1)
by ElQuesoEsViejo on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257164)
(User #81308 Info)
You could bluetooth an external harddrive for even more pr0n for today's geek on the go.
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small remote device (Score:1)
by oliverthered (oliverthered@h o t mail.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:23PM (#4257177)
(User #187439 Info)
This'd be great, ALL you need to do is get some standards agreed and from then on you'd only need 1 remote for you PC. I could cat /dev/bluetooth/ remote and microsoft could DirectRemote it.
Now anyone know how to get the TV and Sound card manufactures to agree on a standard?
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
KT400 (Score:1)
by I_am_Rambi on Saturday September 14, @01:26PM (#4257184)
(User #536614 Info | http://slashdot.org/)
If you're in the market for a new AMD motherboard, perhaps you should wait and see how the new VIA KT400
Well some of these boards have been tested. According to this article [tomshardware.com] on Toms Hardware [tomshardware.com] the KT400 boards aren't worth it. Interesting benchmarks, that is for sure.
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always been small (Score:2)
by forgoil on Saturday September 14, @01:27PM (#4257187)
(User #104808 Info | http://forgoil.fukt.bth.se/)
Correct me if I am wrong, but if I remember the guys at Ericsson correctly, the point of bluetooth is that it can be put into almost any piece of electronic gadget, being really small and all. Hence it should appear in just about anything you can imagine.
The problem is that it should have appeared many years ago, I have no real clue on why it has taken such an enormous amount of time to get it to market in anything interesting.
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Re:always been small (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:31PM (#4257202)
'no real clue on why' I susspect patents and licensing agreements are preventing blue tooth from taking off.
IR probably costs 1cent per transmiting device if that.
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ddSRgeerdzfg3wh (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:30PM (#4257199)
r if you might be able to integrate it into a small remote device... But anyway, if a computer upgrade is on the horizon, have a look at this Epox

Read the rest of this comment...

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Being fucked up the ass with a traffic cone.... (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:53PM (#4257262)

Sweet (Score:-1, Offtopic)
by miketang16 (miketang15@earthlink.net) on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257130)
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Sounds cool.. can't wait for these to show up.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
Re:Sweet (Score:-1)
by cmdr_shithead on Saturday September 14, @01:13PM (#4257148)
(User #527909 Info)
Hi! Would you like to attend MIT? It's just for people like yourself, you moron.
Mass Inane Turdlicking University [mit.edu]
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Move along, Macintosh faggots... (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:28PM (#4257190) ... this discussion is about computer hardware, which is being carried on among adults. There is nothing for you to see here, much less participate in. Go back to gloating about iPhoto and iTunes and how stupid everyone is who isn't in thrall to Steve Jobs.
Candy-assed fags.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
w00t (Score:-1, Troll)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257131)
linuxisforbitches [linuxisforbitches.com]
w00t
wurd to mah h0miez
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Wo000o000oooo000000000! (Score:-1)
by cmdr_shithead on Saturday September 14, @01:10PM (#4257141)
(User #527909 Info)
goat post 2000;
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
"on the precipice of a new chapter" (Score:1, Offtopic)
by Animats (slashdot-replies@downside.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257163)
(User #122034 Info | http://www.animats.com)
Try to get your metaphors unmixed, please.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
pr0n on the go? (Score:0, Offtopic)
by ElQuesoEsViejo on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257164)
(User #81308 Info)
You could bluetooth an external harddrive for even more pr0n for today's geek on the go.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
small remote device (Score:1)
by oliverthered (oliverthered@h o t mail.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:23PM (#4257177)
(User #187439 Info)
This'd be great, ALL you need to do is get some standards agreed and from then on you'd only need 1 remote for you PC. I could cat /dev/bluetooth/ remote and microsoft could DirectRemote it.
Now anyone know how to get the TV and Sound card manufactures to agree on a standard?
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
KT400 (Score:1)
by I_am_Rambi on Saturday September 14, @01:26PM (#4257184)
(User #536614 Info | http://slashdot.org/)
If you're in the market for a new AMD motherboard, perhaps you should wait and see how the new VIA KT400
Well some of these boards have been tested. According to this article [tomshardware.com] on Toms Hardware [tomshardware.com] the KT400 boards aren't worth it. Interesting benchmarks, that is for sure.
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always been small (Score:2)
by forgoil on Saturday September 14, @01:27PM (#4257187)
(User #104808 Info | http://forgoil.fukt.bth.se/)
Correct me if I am wrong, but if I remember the guys at Ericsson correctly, the point of bluetooth is that it can be put into almost any piece of electronic gadget, being really small and all. Hence it should appear in just about anything you can imagine.
The problem is that it should have appeared many years ago, I have no real clue on why it has taken such an enormous amount of time to get it to market in anything interesting.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
Re:always been small (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:31PM (#4257202)
'no real clue on why' I susspect patents and licensing agreements are preventing blue tooth from taking off.
IR probably costs 1cent per transmiting device if that.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
ddSRgeerdzfg3wh (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:30PM (#4257199)
r if you might be able to integrate it into a small remote device... But anyway, if a computer upgrade is on the horizon, have a look at this Epox board review and the bluetooth gear it uses."
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Slashdot strikes again (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:54PM (#4257270)

Dammit. I was just about to go to the last page their Final Thoughts and the site gets slashdotted. Fucking Hey.

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Your post (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:58PM (#4257282)

Your post has currently got too few characters per line (Currently 122.2)
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Sweet (Score:-1, Offtopic)
by miketang16 (miketang15@earthlink.net) on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257130)
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Sounds cool.. can't wait for these to show up.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
Re:Sweet (Score:-1)
by cmdr_shithead on Saturday September 14, @01:13PM (#4257148)
(User #527909 Info)
Hi! Would you like to attend MIT? It's just for people like yourself, you moron.
Mass Inane Turdlicking University [mit.edu]
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Move along, Macintosh faggots... (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:28PM (#4257190) ... this discussion is about computer hardware, which is being carried on among adults. There is nothing for you to see here, much less participate in. Go back to gloating about iPhoto and iTunes and how stupid everyone is who isn't in thrall to Steve Jobs.
Candy-assed fags.
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w00t (Score:-1, Troll)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257131)
linuxisforbitches [linuxisforbitches.com]
w00t
wurd to mah h0miez
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Wo000o000oooo000000000! (Score:-1)

by cmdr_shithead on Saturday September 14, @01:10PM (#4257141)
(User #527909 Info)

goat post 2000;

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"on the precipice of a new chapter" (Score:1, Offtopic)
by Animats (slashdot-replies@downside.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257163)
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Try to get your metaphors unmixed, please.

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pr0n on the go? (Score:0, Offtopic)
by ElQuesoEsViejo on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257164)
(User #81308 Info)
You could bluetooth an external harddrive for even more pr0n for today's geek on the go.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
small remote device (Score:1)
by oliverthered (oliverthered@h o t mail.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:23PM (#4257177)
(User #187439 Info)
This'd be great, ALL you need to do is get some standards agreed and from then on you'd only need 1 remote for you PC. I could cat / dev/bluetooth/ remote and microsoft could DirectRemote it.
Now anyone know how to get the TV and Sound card manufactures to agree on a standard?
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
KT400 (Score:1)
by I_am_Rambi on Saturday September 14, @01:26PM (#4257184)
(User #536614 Info | http://slashdot.org/)
If you're in the market for a new AMD motherboard, perhaps you should wait and see how the new VIA KT400
Well some of these boards have been tested. According to this article [tomshardware.com] on Toms Hardware [tomshardware.com] the KT400 boards aren't worth it. Interesting benchmarks, that is for sure.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
always been small (Score:2)
by forgoil on Saturday September 14, @01:27PM (#4257187)
(User #104808 Info | http://forgoil.fukt.bth.se/)
Correct me if I am wrong, but if I remember the guys at Ericsson correctly, the point of bluetooth is that it can be put into almost any piece of electronic gadget, being really small and all. Hence it should appear in just about anything you can imagine.
The problem is that it should have appeared many years ago, I have no real clue on why it has taken such an enormous amount of time to get it to market in anything interesting.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
Re:always been small (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Satrday September 14, @01:31PM (#4257202)
'no real clue on why' I susspect patents and licensing agreements are preventing blue tooth from taking off.
IR probably costs 1cent per transmiting device if that.
[ Reply to

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Apple/Bluetooth (2, Informative)

rbruels (253523) | more than 11 years ago | (#4257301)

I like how his userID is "Say no to Apple" when Apple will be one of the first companies to integrate Bluetooth with all their units... and was the first to offer integrated OS-level support for the technology.

You can have been able to buy a Belkin USB Bluetooth adapter and use it out the box with OS X for months now.

Asshat.

Re:Apple/Bluetooth (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4257382)

Say no to Sun. Say YES to Microsoft, and Bill Gates giant dick of freedom. Free rides if you sign up now. Hand greased by Steve Balmer.

Re:Apple/Bluetooth (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4258112)

I don't believe they are putting Bluetooth hardware in every computer they make, but yes they are the first major OS vendor to come out with a Bluetooth stack. I did some research and it does not look like Apple actually has a "stamp of approval" from the Bluetooth SIG.

Anyhow, there are a few different Windows compatible Bluetooth cards (TDK & 3Com each make one for instance), but until MS actually releases their OFFICIAL stack/interface on the 20th of September, we cannot judge who makes a better, easier to use, more resilient, bug free stack/interface that is Bluetooth SIG approved.

Furthermore, this motherboard review lacks a few insightful things. Sure, the board has Bluetooth, but a lot of people don't know what Bluetooth *IS* exactly and what it has to offer. The writer of this article states to fail what the different uses are for Bluetooth (ie: the 13 different profiles/services), why someone would ever need it and how well it actually worked with a variety of Bluetooth based devices.

I get the feeling that the Bluetooth aspect of this board was merely a footnote in this review.

D-Link too (2)

Midnight Thunder (17205) | more than 11 years ago | (#4258515)

D-Link has also been producing one [dlink.com] , that is also MacOS X exclusive.

I would imagine the exclusiveness would be because Apple provided support [apple.com] for Bluetooth and saved D-Link et al. the software effort. So if we want to see these devices working on Linux and MS-Windows, then it is a matter of the relavent groups writing the necessary drivers.

You cant post this stuff with mozilla, use Opera. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4257305)

Sweet (Score:-1, Offtopic)
by miketang16 (miketang15@earthlink.net) on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257130)
(User #585602 Info | http://www.dtcwebdesign.com/)
Sounds cool.. can't wait for these to show up.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
Re:Sweet (Score:-1)
by cmdr_shithead on Saturday September 14, @01:13PM (#4257148)
(User #527909 Info)
Hi! Would you like to attend MIT? It's just for people like yourself, you moron.
Mass Inane Turdlicking University [mit.edu]
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Move along, Macintosh faggots... (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:28PM (#4257190) ... this discussion is about computer hardware, which is being carried on among adults. There is nothing for you to see here, much less participate in. Go back to gloating about iPhoto and iTunes and how stupid everyone is who isn't in thrall to Steve Jobs.
Candy-assed fags.
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w00t (Score:-1, Troll)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257131)
linuxisforbitches [linuxisforbitches.com]
w00t
wurd to mah h0miez
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Wo000o000oooo000000000! (Score:-1)
by cmdr_shithead on Saturday September 14, @01:10PM (#4257141)
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goat post 2000;
[ Reply to This | arent ]
"on the precipice of a new chapter" (Score:1, Offtopic)
by Animats (slashdot-replies@downside.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257163)
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Try to get your metaphors unmixed, please.
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FUCK THE MODERATORS (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:57PM (#4257278)
who cares if it's Offtopic? All you mods are on crack. That comment was funn.y
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pr0n on the go? (Score:0, Offtopic)
by ElQuesoEsViejo on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257164)
(User #81308 Info)
You could bluetooth an external harddrive for even more pr0n for today's geek on the go.
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FUCK THE LAMENESS FILTER (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @02:02PM (#4257288)
I just tried to post this comment saying how gh3y the mods are and how theyre on crack but it said "This exact comment has already been posted. Try to be more original...". FUCK IT
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small remote device (Score:1)
by oliverthered (oliverthered@h o t mail.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:23PM (#4257177)
(User #187439 Info)
This'd be great, ALL you need to do is get some standards agreed and from then on you'd only need 1 remote for you PC. I could cat /dev/bluetooth/ remote and microsoft could DirectRemote it.
Now anyone know how to get the TV and Sound card manufactures to agree on a standard?
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
KT400 (Score:1)
by I_am_Rambi on Saturday September 14, @01:26PM (#4257184)
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If you're in the market for a new AMD motherboard, perhaps you should wait and see how the new VIA KT400

Well some of these boards have been tested. According to this article [tomshardware.com] on Toms Hardware [tomshardware.com] the KT400 boards aren't worth it. Interesting benchmarks, that is for sure.

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always been small (Score:2)
by forgoil on Saturday September 14, @01:27PM (#4257187)
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Correct me if I am wrong, but if I remember the guys at Ericsson correctly, the point of bluetooth is that it can be put into almost any piece of electronic gadget, being really small and all. Hence it should appear in just about anything you can imagine.

The problem is that it should have appeared many years ago, I have no real clue on why it has taken such an enormous amount of time to get it to market in anything interesting.

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Re:always been small (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:31PM (#4257202)

'no real clue on why' I susspect patents and licensing agreements are preventing blue tooth from taking off.
IR probably costs 1cent per transmiting device if that.

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small amount of power (Score:2)

by johnjones (johnjones@postmaster.co.uk) on Saturday September 14, @01:51PM (#4257253)
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bluetooth has always been about low power

this meassn that it can be put into phones
and washing machines, fridges, microwaves and of course keyboards, mice and microphones/speakers

Microsoft next keyboards are to be wireless and bluetooth

bluetooth is about short range low power 802.11b is about high power, long range and high bandwidth

bluetooth is pretty sweet its really the software that holding things back because their are lots of devices now

it terms of volume more bluetooth devices are made each day than 802.11b in a year
(pinch of salt bluetooth sig no. but a good idea about the volume)

regards

John Jones

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Re:always been small (Score:1)

by Neuro2000 on Saturday September 14, @01:52PM (#4257259)
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I work for Anritsu, in the same engineering group that manufactures the Anritsu MT8850A Bluetooth production Test Box. Its taken this long to get the different chipset correctly working together. It wasn't until Version 1.1 when people had stable Radio's and Stable protocol working! Other smaller companies are struggling to get their implimentation of bluetooth working. BTW. BlueCore02 from CSR is a very good Bluetooth device.

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ddSRgeerdzfg3wh (Score:-1, Troll)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:30PM (#4257199)

r if you might be able to integrate it into a small remote device... But anyway, if a computer upgrade is on the horizon, have a look at this Epox board review and the bluetooth gear it uses."

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Satellites Image Earthquakes
SciencePosted by CowboyNeal on Saturday September 14, @12:03PM
from the plate-tectonics dept.
evilocity writes "A BBC story reports that scientists are now using satellite radar to study earthquakes and fault lines, gathering more data than was ever before possible. Already the findings are challenging current theories, but the practical goal of course is earthquake forecasting."

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WA Wins First Case Against Deceptive Spammer
SpamPosted by CowboyNeal on Saturday September 14, @10:56AM
from the using-the-law-to-filter-your-inbox dept.
GPFCharlie writes "The Seattle Post-Intelligencer is running this article about the first victory by a US state against a spammer. Apparently the judge ruled that a civil trial was not even necessary, since the state had already proven their case. The law was upheld by the WA Supreme Court and an appeal was turned down by the US Supreme Court. Next phase: penalties. How about 5 million hand-written apology letters?"

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War Car Offers Wi-Fi
The InternetPosted by CmdrTaco on Saturday September 14, @09:47AM
from the now-how-does-that-work dept.
NetGyver writes "news.com has an interesting story about public hot-spot operators that use a weapon in protest against the growth of commercial Wi-Fi networks: Michael Oh's "war car." The 1997 Saturn has enough Wi-Fi equipment installed on its bumper and rooftop to create a 150-foot wireless network, said Oh, who helps run a free wireless network covering two Boston city blocks and is one of hundreds of so-called public hot- spot operators who believe Wi-Fi networks and the Internet access they offer should remain free."

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UT2003 Demo Readyr if you might be able to integrate it into a small remote device... But anyway, if a computer upgrade is on the horizon, have a look at this Epox board review and the bluetooth gear it uses."

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Satellites Image Earthquakes
SciencePosted by CowboyNeal on Saturday September 14, @12:03PM
from the plate-tectonics dept.
evilocity writes "A BBC story reports that scientists are now using satellite radar to study earthquakes and fault lines, gathering more data than was ever before possible. Already the findings are challenging current theories, but the practical goal of course is earthquake forecasting."

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WA Wins First Case Against Deceptive Spammer
SpamPosted by CowboyNeal on Saturday September 14, @10:56AM
from the using-the-law-to-filter-your-inbox dept.
GPFCharlie writes "The Seattle Post-Intelligencer is running this article about the first victory by a US state against a spammer. Apparently the judge ruled that a civil trial was not even necessary, since the state had already proven their case. The law was upheld by the WA Supreme Court and an appeal was turned down by the US Supreme Court. Next phase: penalties. How about 5 million hand-written apology letters?"

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War Car Offers Wi-Fi
The InternetPosted by CmdrTaco on Saturday September 14, @09:47AM
from the now-how-does-that-work dept.
NetGyver writes "news.com has an interesting story about public hot-spot operators that use a weapon in protest against the growth of commercial Wi-Fi networks: Michael Oh's "war car." The 1997 Saturn has enough Wi-Fi equipment installed on its bumper and rooftop to create a 150-foot wireless network, said Oh, who helps run a free wireless network covering two Boston city blocks and is one of hundreds of so-called public hot- spot operators who believe Wi-Fi networks and the Internet access they offer should remain free."

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Cool (Score:3, Funny)
by mfos.org on Saturday September 14, @01:34PM (#4257208)
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Stick it on a board with some vacuum tubes [aopen.com] and I'll take it.

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you are teh gay (Score:-1)
by SweetAndSourJesus on Saturday September 14, @01:35PM (#4257211)
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at least that's what your mom tells me.

she also says your wang is teeny.

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CTRL+A,C Reply, CTRL+V, Wait 20 secs, Submit (Score:-1)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:39PM (#4257221)

Bluetooth And The Common Motherboard
Posted by timothy on Saturday September 14, @01:07PM
from the no-mandatory-webcam-yet dept.
Just say no to Apple writes "Computers seem to be on the precipice of a new chapter with things like Serial ATA and now bluetooth showing up as standard equipment. Of course the bluetooth kit that comes with this board is really tiny, which makes me wonder if you might be able to integrate it into a small remote device... But anyway, if a computer upgrade is on the horizon, have a look at this Epox board review and the bluetooth gear it uses."
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Sweet (Score:0)
by miketang16 (miketang15@earthlink.net) on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257130)
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Sounds cool.. can't wait for these to show up.
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Re:Sweet by cmdr_shithead (Score:-1) Saturday September 14, @01:13PM
Move along, Macintosh faggots... Saturday September 14, @01:28PM
w00t (Score:-1, Troll)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257131)
linuxisforbitches [linuxisforbitches.com]
w00t
wurd to mah h0miez
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Wo000o000oooo000000000! (Score:-1)
by cmdr_shithead on Saturday September 14, @01:10PM (#4257141)
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goat post 2000;
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"on the precipice of a new chapter" (Score:2)
by Animats (slashdot-replies@downside.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257163)
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Try to get your metaphors unmixed, please.
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pr0n on the go? (Score:1)
by ElQuesoEsViejo on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257164)
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You could bluetooth an external harddrive for even more pr0n for today's geek on the go.
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small remote device (Score:1)
by oliverthered (oliverthered@h o t mail.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:23PM (#4257177)
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This'd be great, ALL you need to do is get some standards agreed and from then on you'd only need 1 remote for you PC. I could cat /dev/bluetooth/ remote and microsoft could DirectRemote it.

Now anyone know how to get the TV and Sound card manufactures to agree on a standard?

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KT400 (Score:1)
by I_am_Rambi on Saturday September 14, @01:26PM (#4257184)
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If you're in the market for a new AMD motherboard, perhaps you should wait and see how the new VIA KT400

Well some of these boards have been tested. According to this article [tomshardware.com] on Toms Hardware [tomshardware.com] the KT400 boards aren't worth it. Interesting benchmarks, that is for sure.

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always been small (Score:2)
by forgoil on Saturday September 14, @01:27PM (#4257187)
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Correct me if I am wrong, but if I remember the guys at Ericsson correctly, the point of bluetooth is that it can be put into almost any piece of electronic gadget, being really small and all. Hence it should appear in just about anything you can imagine.

The problem is that it should have appeared many years ago, I have no real clue on why it has taken such an enormous amount of time to get it to market in anything interesting.

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Re:always been small Saturday September 14, @01:31PM

ddSRgeerdzfg3wh (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:30PM (#4257199)

r if you might be able to integrate it into a small remote device... But anyway, if a computer upgrade is on the horizon, have a look at this Epox board review and the bluetooth gear it uses."

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Advertising? On Slashdot? (Score:0)

by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:40PM (#4257224)

This looks like another case of advertising in slashdot.

Was there this much of a huzzah when (infinitely more useful) ethernet chips, nvidia video chips, or even SB compatible sound chips were integrated onto motherboards?

They guy that mentioned the motherboard with the vacuum tubes has it right. Somehow, that has the innate property of "coolness," while this mobo has the innate property of "gheyness."

Well, onto the next precipice! I'm jazzed!

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How much legacy should we carry? (Score:1)
by deragon on Saturday September 14, @01:42PM (#4257230)
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As time goes by, more and more ports/connectors add up on my motherboards. When are we going to get ride of ps/2 buses, parallels and serial ports?

So now we would have:

bluetooth
parallel port
serial ports
Serial IDE
Parallel IDE
Firewire
ps2 buses
USB
-- Next ones are not on motherboards, but still...---
Analog joystick port (gameport)
VGA output
Audio ports
Ethernet

Am I missing a port? Keeping legacy ports does add cost on the systems...

I wish we could go by with firewire only. Everything on firewire. HDs, modem, joystick, keyboard... Only analog output like Video and Audio would remain. BTW, most motherboards do not come with Firewire on, but I bet there must be a few out there with it.

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Re:How much legacy should we carry? (Score:0)
by chez69 on Saturday September 14, @01:52PM (#4257255)
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Firewire is overkill for a whole lot of things (keyboards, mice, joysticks ) and not fast enough for others ( hard drives ).

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Who secure is bluetooth ? (Score:2, Interesting)

by Krapangor on Saturday September 14, @01:45PM (#4257239)
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If it's at WLAN level then goodbye.
Just wait a little and some shithead scriptkiddie prints 2000 black pages on your printer.
And if there is security all this stuff won't some cheaply.

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Re:Who secure is bluetooth ? (Score:1, Informative)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:52PM (#4257258)

Bluetooth has a top distance of 30 meters outdoors. When you move indoors with walls and computers and people and microwaves, that distance drops quite a bit. So unless you are worried about somebody in your house hacking you, its a non-issue.

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Re:Who secure is bluetooth ? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @02:00PM (#4257286)

um, even with access to your wlan, your network services should really be secure enough to prevent access to your printer or other facilities - unless those are windows services!

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Re:Who secure is bluetooth ? (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @02:03PM (#4257296)

You, too, can become a mensa member !

No, thanks, Crapflinger. I mean, if they'll let someone in who doesn't know the difference between "who" and "how," what's the bloody point?

If it was just a typo, then let me give you a free tip: Don't try to flaunt your intelligence if you're not going to check through your post for embarassing typos that make you look like an idiot, mmmkay?

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A beowulf haiku (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:47PM (#4257240)

Beowulf,
A haiku by Anonymous Coward

"Imagine", I post,
"a beowulf cluster of those!",
It's always funny.
[goatse.cx]

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But wait, theres more..... (Score:-1, Troll)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:49PM (#4257249)

The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way.Sweet (Score:0)
by miketang16 (miketang15@earthlink.net) on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257130)
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Sounds cool.. can't wait for these to show up.
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Re:Sweet (Score:-1)
by cmdr_shithead on Saturday September 14, @01:13PM (#4257148)
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Hi! Would you like to attend MIT? It's just for people like yourself, you moron.
Mass Inane Turdlicking University [mit.edu]
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Move along, Macintosh faggots... (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:28PM (#4257190) ... this discussion is about computer hardware, which is being carried on among adults. There is nothing for you to see here, much less participate in. Go back to gloating about iPhoto and iTunes and how stupid everyone is who isn't in thrall to Steve Jobs.
Candy-assed fags.
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w00t (Score:-1, Troll)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257131)
linuxisforbitches [linuxisforbitches.com]
w00t
wurd to mah h0miez
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Wo000o000oooo000000000! (Score:-1)
by cmdr_shithead on Saturday September 14, @01:10PM (#4257141)
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goat post 2000;
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"on the precipice of a new chapter" (Score:2)
by Animats (slashdot-replies@downside.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257163)
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Try to get your metaphors unmixed, please.
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pr0n on the go? (Score:1)
by ElQuesoEsViejo on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257164)
(User #81308 Info)
You could bluetooth an external harddrive for even more pr0n for today's geek on the go.
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small remote device (Score:1)
by oliverthered (oliverthered@h o t mail.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:23PM (#4257177)
(User #187439 Info)
This'd be great, ALL you need to do is get some standards agreed and from then on you'd only need 1 remote for you PC. I could cat /dev/bluetooth/ remote and microsoft could DirectRemote it.
Now anyone know how to get the TV and Sound card manufactures to agree on a standard?
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KT400 (Score:1)
by I_am_Rambi on Saturday September 14, @01:26PM (#4257184)
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If you're in the market for a new AMD motherboard, perhaps you should wait and see how the new VIA KT400
Well some of these boards have been tested. According to this article [tomshardware.com] on Toms Hardware [tomshardware.com] the KT400 boards aren't worth it. Interesting benchmarks, that is for sure.
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always been small (Score:2)
by forgoil on Saturday September 14, @01:27PM (#4257187)
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Correct me if I am wrong, but if I remember the guys at Ericsson correctly, the point of bluetooth is that it can be put into almost any piece of electronic gadget, being really small and all. Hence it should appear in just about anything you can imagine.
The problem is that it should have appeared many years ago, I have no real clue on why it has taken such an enormous amount of time to get it to market in anything interesting.
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Re:always been small (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:31PM (#4257202)
'no real clue on why' I susspect patents and licensing agreements are preventing blue tooth from taking off.
IR probably costs 1cent per transmiting device if that.
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ddSRgeerdzfg3wh (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:30PM (#4257199)
r if you might be able to integrate it into a small remote device... But anyway, if a computer upgrade is on the horizon, have a look at this Epox

Read the rest of this comment...

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Being fucked up the ass with a traffic cone.... (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:53PM (#4257262)

Sweet (Score:-1, Offtopic)
by miketang16 (miketang15@earthlink.net) on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257130)
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Sounds cool.. can't wait for these to show up.
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Re:Sweet (Score:-1)
by cmdr_shithead on Saturday September 14, @01:13PM (#4257148)
(User #527909 Info)
Hi! Would you like to attend MIT? It's just for people like yourself, you moron.
Mass Inane Turdlicking University [mit.edu]
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Move along, Macintosh faggots... (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:28PM (#4257190) ... this discussion is about computer hardware, which is being carried on among adults. There is nothing for you to see here, much less participate in. Go back to gloating about iPhoto and iTunes and how stupid everyone is who isn't in thrall to Steve Jobs.
Candy-assed fags.
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w00t (Score:-1, Troll)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257131)
linuxisforbitches [linuxisforbitches.com]
w00t
wurd to mah h0miez
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Wo000o000oooo000000000! (Score:-1)
by cmdr_shithead on Saturday September 14, @01:10PM (#4257141)
(User #527909 Info)
goat post 2000;
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"on the precipice of a new chapter" (Score:1, Offtopic)
by Animats (slashdot-replies@downside.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257163)
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Try to get your metaphors unmixed, please.
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pr0n on the go? (Score:0, Offtopic)
by ElQuesoEsViejo on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257164)
(User #81308 Info)
You could bluetooth an external harddrive for even more pr0n for today's geek on the go.
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small remote device (Score:1)
by oliverthered (oliverthered@h o t mail.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:23PM (#4257177)
(User #187439 Info)
This'd be great, ALL you need to do is get some standards agreed and from then on you'd only need 1 remote for you PC. I could cat /dev/bluetooth/ remote and microsoft could DirectRemote it.
Now anyone know how to get the TV and Sound card manufactures to agree on a standard?
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KT400 (Score:1)
by I_am_Rambi on Saturday September 14, @01:26PM (#4257184)
(User #536614 Info | http://slashdot.org/)
If you're in the market for a new AMD motherboard, perhaps you should wait and see how the new VIA KT400
Well some of these boards have been tested. According to this article [tomshardware.com] on Toms Hardware [tomshardware.com] the KT400 boards aren't worth it. Interesting benchmarks, that is for sure.
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always been small (Score:2)
by forgoil on Saturday September 14, @01:27PM (#4257187)
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Correct me if I am wrong, but if I remember the guys at Ericsson correctly, the point of bluetooth is that it can be put into almost any piece of electronic gadget, being really small and all. Hence it should appear in just about anything you can imagine.
The problem is that it should have appeared many years ago, I have no real clue on why it has taken such an enormous amount of time to get it to market in anything interesting.
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Re:always been small (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:31PM (#4257202)
'no real clue on why' I susspect patents and licensing agreements are preventing blue tooth from taking off.
IR probably costs 1cent per transmiting device if that.
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ddSRgeerdzfg3wh (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:30PM (#4257199)
r if you might be able to integrate it into a small remote device... But anyway, if a computer upgrade is on the horizon, have a look at this Epox board review and the bluetooth gear it uses."
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Slashdot strikes again (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:54PM (#4257270)

Dammit. I was just about to go to the last page their Final Thoughts and the site gets slashdotted. Fucking Hey.

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Your post (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:58PM (#4257282)

Your post has currently got too few characters per line (Currently 122.2)
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Sweet (Score:-1, Offtopic)
by miketang16 (miketang15@earthlink.net) on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257130)
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Sounds cool.. can't wait for these to show up.
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Re:Sweet (Score:-1)
by cmdr_shithead on Saturday September 14, @01:13PM (#4257148)
(User #527909 Info)
Hi! Would you like to attend MIT? It's just for people like yourself, you moron.
Mass Inane Turdlicking University [mit.edu]
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Move along, Macintosh faggots... (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:28PM (#4257190) ... this discussion is about computer hardware, which is being carried on among adults. There is nothing for you to see here, much less participate in. Go back to gloating about iPhoto and iTunes and how stupid everyone is who isn't in thrall to Steve Jobs.
Candy-assed fags.
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w00t (Score:-1, Troll)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257131)
linuxisforbitches [linuxisforbitches.com]
w00t
wurd to mah h0miez
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Wo000o000oooo000000000! (Score:-1)

by cmdr_shithead on Saturday September 14, @01:10PM (#4257141)
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goat post 2000;

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"on the precipice of a new chapter" (Score:1, Offtopic)
by Animats (slashdot-replies@downside.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257163)
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Try to get your metaphors unmixed, please.

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pr0n on the go? (Score:0, Offtopic)
by ElQuesoEsViejo on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257164)
(User #81308 Info)
You could bluetooth an external harddrive for even more pr0n for today's geek on the go.
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small remote device (Score:1)
by oliverthered (oliverthered@h o t mail.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:23PM (#4257177)
(User #187439 Info)
This'd be great, ALL you need to do is get some standards agreed and from then on you'd only need 1 remote for you PC. I could cat / dev/bluetooth/ remote and microsoft could DirectRemote it.
Now anyone know how to get the TV and Sound card manufactures to agree on a standard?
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KT400 (Score:1)
by I_am_Rambi on Saturday September 14, @01:26PM (#4257184)
(User #536614 Info | http://slashdot.org/)
If you're in the market for a new AMD motherboard, perhaps you should wait and see how the new VIA KT400
Well some of these boards have been tested. According to this article [tomshardware.com] on Toms Hardware [tomshardware.com] the KT400 boards aren't worth it. Interesting benchmarks, that is for sure.
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always been small (Score:2)
by forgoil on Saturday September 14, @01:27PM (#4257187)
(User #104808 Info | http://forgoil.fukt.bth.se/)
Correct me if I am wrong, but if I remember the guys at Ericsson correctly, the point of bluetooth is that it can be put into almost any piece of electronic gadget, being really small and all. Hence it should appear in just about anything you can imagine.
The problem is that it should have appeared many years ago, I have no real clue on why it has taken such an enormous amount of time to get it to market in anything interesting.
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Re:always been small (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Satrday September 14, @01:31PM (#4257202)
'no real clue on why' I susspect patents and licensing agreements are preventing blue tooth from taking off.
IR probably costs 1cent per transmiting device if that.
[ Reply to

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Its hard to remove the whitespace from this shit (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @02:02PM (#4257291)

weet (Score:-1, Offtopic)
by miketang16 (miketang15@earthlink.net) on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257130)
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Sounds cool.. can't wait for these to show up.
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Re:Sweet (Score:-1)
by cmdr_shithead on Saturday September 14, @01:13PM (#4257148)
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Hi! Would you like to attend MIT? It's just for people like yourself, you moron.
Mass Inane Turdlicking University [mit.edu]
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Move along, Macintosh faggots... (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:28PM (#4257190) ... this discussion is about computer hardware, which is being carried on among adults. There is nothing for you to see here, much less participate in. Go back to gloating about iPhoto and iTunes and how stupid everyone is who isn't in thrall to Steve Jobs.
Candy-assed fags.
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w00t (Score:-1, Troll)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:08PM (#4257131)
linuxisforbitches [linuxisforbitches.com]
w00t
wurd to mah h0miez
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Wo000o000oooo000000000! (Score:-1)
by cmdr_shithead on Saturday September 14, @01:10PM (#4257141)
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goat post 2000;
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"on the precipice of a new chapter" (Score:1, Offtopic)
by Animats (slashdot-replies@downside.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257163)
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Try to get your metaphors unmixed, please.
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FUCK THE MODERATORS (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:57PM (#4257278)
who cares if it's Offtopic? All you mods are on crack. That comment was funn.y
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pr0n on the go? (Score:0, Offtopic)
by ElQuesoEsViejo on Saturday September 14, @01:19PM (#4257164)
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You could bluetooth an external harddrive for even more pr0n for today's geek on the go.
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small remote device (Score:1)
by oliverthered (oliverthered@h o t mail.com) on Saturday September 14, @01:23PM (#4257177)
(User #187439 Info)
This'd be great, ALL you need to do is get some standards agreed and from then on you'd only need 1 remote for you PC. I could cat /dev/bluetooth/ remote and microsoft could DirectRemote it.
Now anyone know how to get the TV and Sound card manufactures to agree on a standard?
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KT400 (Score:1)
by I_am_Rambi on Saturday September 14, @01:26PM (#4257184)
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If you're in the market for a new AMD motherboard, perhaps you should wait and see how the new VIA KT400
Well some of these boards have been tested. According to this article [tomshardware.com] on Toms Hardware [tomshardware.com] the KT400 boards aren't worth it. Interesting benchmarks, that is for sure.
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always been small (Score:2)
by forgoil on Saturday September 14, @01:27PM (#4257187)
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Correct me if I am wrong, but if I remember the guys at Ericsson correctly, the point of bluetooth is that it can be put into almost any piece of electronic gadget, being really small and all. Hence it should appear in just about anything you can imagine.
The problem is that it should have appeared many years ago, I have no real clue on why it has taken such an enormous amount of time to get it to market in anything interesting.
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Re:always been small (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 14, @01:31PM (#4257202)
'no real clue on why' I susspect patents and licensing agreements are preventing blue tooth from taking off.
IR probably costs 1cent per transmiting device if that.
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small amount of power (Score:2)

by johnjones (johnjones@postmaster.co.uk) on Saturday September 14, @

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Im done crap flooding (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4257312)

You may now moderate all those posts as -1, Offtopic, thank you.

Dont forget to fuck a traffic cone.

Hey you forgot the closing tag! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4257342)

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SATA, Linux, and Archive Storage (5, Informative)

GigsVT (208848) | more than 11 years ago | (#4257378)

This is an article I wrote for another forum, I think it fits well in this discussion.
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Maxtor recently announced a 320GB ATA drive. This, in itself, isn't too remarkable, other than the quite large size jump. What is remarkable is that they are targetting it to somewhere that has never been specifically aimed at with ATA drives, the large corporate storage market.

About a year ago, my company was running out of hard disk space, again. We had filled up our 500GB main live SCSI RAID, and our 190GB work in process Fiber Channel RAID was looking pretty small and obselete.

For reference, we paid about $30,000 for the 500GB SCSI RAID only three years ago. The Fibre Channel RAID came about a year earlier and cost about $45,000. Support on both is over $5,000 a year.

Our main archive needs are for mostly dead storage, that is, speed is not critical, but availability is. The main archive was previously housed on a very slow 1TB tape robot. The tapes were becoming a bottleneck in our workflow, so about two years ago I designed a shell script system in IRIX to allow the files to be stored on live RAIDs without the risk of using older versions of files by accident.

This worked fine, but with the increased throughput, we also had increasing demands for more storage. Our archive has increased in size almost 100% since 2 years ago, and grows by nearly 5GB per week or more.

So, about a year ago, things were starting to get tight again. I looked at the options, and Maxtor 100GB ATA drives were out. I figured we could use Linux in this situation, and just attach the storage to the network, since speed was not critical. After some searching, I found 3ware, www.3ware.com, who makes a PCI ATA RAID controller that holds up to 8 drives and has good Linux support.

There were some issues at first, due to a hardware recall on 3ware's part, but after the bugs were worked out, I managed to build two NAS systems. These were a huge leap forward in terms of storage cost, each server cost about as much as we pay in one year of support on the old RAID systems, and were complete computers, compared to simple direct attached storage. We got 3 TB of storage for about $12,000.

These storage servers were pretty novel a year ago. Very few people had built multiple Terabyte systems from ATA drives at that point. Now they are becoming pretty common. For example, RaidZone (www.raidzone.com) makes a similar NAS (Network Attached Storage) product based on Linux. www.acnc.com is also embracing ATA as a viable platform for large RAID, though they are packaging it with special controllers that allow one to use the ATA RAID with any operating system, the OS sees the RAID as a single, directly attached storage device, through SCSI and fibre channel. This has the added benefit of allowing SCSI features like command reordering, and more robust command integrity checking.

The coming of serial ATA over the next year is serving to quickly push ATA into the mainstream low-to-mid end server market. For large data storage needs, tapes no longer offer a viable option. Linux based NAS and hardware based directly attached ATA storage are quickly becoming the de facto standard for large archival storage, at 25% or less of the cost of tapes, without the hassle that comes with the non-random access of tapes.

ATA is often viewed in the industry as a "consumer level" technology, or "not for serious use". This view is quickly becoming outdated with the wealth of new ATA based server products.

ATA in many ways has a history a lot like Linux's. It is a low cost technology, that is quickly eating away the market of more "serious" technologies like SCSI and Tape. This is the same way Linux is eating away at the old UNIX market, replacing so called "high end" servers with commodity hardware. It's no surprise that many ATA NAS products are Linux based, for an embedded system where cost is a primary concern, a Windows license would add unnecessarily to the cost, and reduce reliability while limiting the freedom of the developer to customize the system to the application.

Theere is a long history of lower cost disruptive technologies killing superior technologies. ATA isn't technologically better (yet). It is, however, good enough, and much much lower cost, and that's all it needs.

The lack of high speed 10,000 RPM ATA drives does tend to make it not currently viable for high speed, random access, low latency, applications at this point, such as heavily loaded databases. There is no reason a high RPM ATA drive could not be produced in the future though. In my experience, most high capacity storage needs are archival, or only require a low transaction rate with moderate to high data rates.

In terms of raw throughput, ATA RAID can easily outpace any SCSI RAID, do to the nature of the interface. ATA RAID is implemented like switched ethernet, each drive has its own channel to the host controller. SCSI and basic configurations of Fibre Channel are like old fashioned shared ethernet, ATA is like switched ethernet.

ATA is Linux's new partner in the server room. Together, they are drastically reducing the cost of operations, while at the same time, offering a much more capable solution for many common needs.

WTF does this have to do with Bluetooth MBs? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4257592)

Offtopic maybe?

Re:WTF does this have to do with Bluetooth MBs? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4259472)

Beats me, who cares? This is the land of the Slashdolt, where stupidity reigns and crap is king.

Re:SATA, Linux, and Archive Storage (2)

Elbereth (58257) | more than 11 years ago | (#4257779)

Ummmm... okay, I sort of agree with you. But you can't truly say that any IDE solution has more throughput than cutting-edge SCSI. You didn't really say that in as many words in your post, but it seems sort of hinted at in the second to last paragraph. Having your own controller hooked up to every drive isn't really a feature.... it's an ugly hack to get around the braindead design of IDE. It doesn't give you any advantages over using a good SCSI solution, like triple channel Ultra160 or Ultra320 cards.

I agree with you that IDE solutions are novel, making inroads, and are a great solution for low-end data storage. Once you reach the mid-range market, however, I really would have to suggest that you use SCSI. SCSI was designed intelligently, without any ugly hacks to work around. Many of the features are not apparent in benchmarks or low-end usage. Sometimes, you won't even see any apparent benefit to SCSI unless you're dealing with high-end or cutting-edge storage solutions! What you're missing, however, is that these storage solutions (even if it's just a simple file server with a bunch of disks (JBOD)), each disk drive has a massive warranty (5 years is the industry standard), is over-engineered (so that it doesn't fail right after the warranty period ends), and is compatible with every other SCSI storage solution ever made. Do you need your drives to be external? No problem. Do you need your disks to go into an Alpha server? No problem. What about the existing RAID setup? No problem.

IDE is a great innovation, and I'm glad that Maxtor is pushing the envelope. However, to suggest that SCSI is obsolete, except in the most demanding situation possible... ugh... I don't know about you, but I trust a Seagate Cheetah a lot more than a Maxtor DiamondMax. Sure, you could load up all the brand new servers with low-end motherboards, generic RAM, and IDE hard drives, but I'd be a little wary of depending on them when the site gets slashdotted.

Re:SATA, Linux, and Archive Storage (1)

GigsVT (208848) | more than 11 years ago | (#4257895)

It doesn't give you any advantages over using a good SCSI solution, like triple channel Ultra160 or Ultra320 cards.

You make some valid points, but my main point was one of cost-efficiency.

Also, with PCI 64/66, triple Ultra 160/320 is pretty silly. A 8 disk ATA contoller already maxes out said bus, so does a single Ultra 320 channel. Until we get faster busses, all that speed is wasted anyway, the only thing you eliminate is some device contention, something that doesn't exist in SATA/PATA one-disk-per-channel controllers.

Also, about "low-end", do you consider a 5-10TB RAID low-end? As I said, the only drawback is in heavy transaction loads, latency sensitive applications, because of lack of intelligent command queuing (sometimes, as I said the integrated devices that have SCSI on the outside and ATA on the inside get around this in large part) and lower RPMs.

If I had the money, I'd love to see modern ATA put up against modern SCSI in real world tests. It's a hands down winner in cost/GB, performance is not as clear, but I bet it would be "good enough" for a lot of applications, and that is what matters.

As far as your comments on reliability... I see this as more of a non-issue, since the useful life of a RAID is far less than 5 years in a lot of applications. As I pointed out in my real world examples, the cost to maintain a 5 year old RAID outweighs the cost of newer technology in many cases. Immediate redundancy is taken care of, because one can easily afford completely redundant systems, in addition to RAID on each, and still have a cost advantage over SCSI.

As far as platform independance, the ATA-SCSI hardware RAID devices take care of that if you need it. If you don't, lower cost internal solutions can be used.

Also, I don't think SCSI is obselete, I just see ATA as the disruptive technology that will soon relegate it to highly specialized applications.
In a way it is sad, I admit, SCSI/FC is a far better technology. The writing is on the wall it seems though, and cheap and "good enough" seems to have won again, just like VHS/Beta.

Re:SATA, Linux, and Archive Storage (1)

GigsVT (208848) | more than 11 years ago | (#4257925)

Also, with PCI 64/66, triple Ultra 160/320 is pretty silly. A 8 disk ATA contoller already maxes out said bus, so does a single Ultra 320 channel.

I correct myself, the bus is 528 MB/Sec in theory. This is mostly incorrect, Two 320s would still max it out.

Re:SATA, Linux, and Archive Storage (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4259268)

If I had the money, I'd love to see modern ATA put up against modern SCSI in real world tests. It's a hands down winner in cost/GB, performance is not as clear, but I bet it would be "good enough" for a lot of applications, and that is what matters.

Are you kidding me. You seem to be completely ignoring latency and seek speed, of which top SCSI drives are twice as fast as IDE. In any serious database application, SCSI is going to smoke IDE, and IDE will barely keep up with the load.

ac'97? (2)

agdv (457752) | more than 11 years ago | (#4257857)

I'm assuming this is sold as a top-of-the-line full-featured motherboard. With RAID, USB2, 10/100 LAN, etc, and now also Bluetooth. Then why on freaking earth do they put a shitty AC'97 sound system into it? CMI8738 wasn't too expensive, last time I checked, and even if it's not perfect, it's way ahead of AC. AC'97 was designed for cheap stuff. That's not what I want in a good mobo.

I had that sort of thing integrated in mine, and got so fed with it I bought a real sound card (not a very expensive one, but one that didn't need to re-sample everything to 48 kHz).

Gets on my nerves.

Re:ac'97? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4258563)

ut one that didn't need to re-sample everything to 48 kHz).

That explains the Chimpunk voices in Battlefield:1942.
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