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Talk To a Convicted Warez Guy

Roblimo posted about 12 years ago | from the don't-do-the-crime-if-you-can't-do-the-time dept.

The Courts 1404

Chris Tresco is one of those evil "software pirates" cybermoms warn you about. He was a sysadmin at MIT, and also a member of "the secretive Internet software trading ring known as 'DrinkOrDie'" who got caught by the DoJ's Operation Buccaneer, got convicted, and was sentenced to 33 months in prison on August 16. Chris has a little time left on the outside before he goes away and has agreed to spend some of it answering your questions, so ask away. (Usual Slashdot interview rules.)

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i'd much rather... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4273258)

...hear his opinion of michael simms [petitiononline.com]

Re:i'd much rather... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4273307)

Wow. Eight signatures. That'll really show them you mean business.

Re:i'd much rather... (1)

ahaning (108463) | about 12 years ago | (#4273446)

Every petition that ever worked had just one signature on it once.

First Warez (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4273261)

CmdrTaco (0, Offtopic)

briglass (608949) | about 12 years ago | (#4273262)

When I first read this I misread Chris Tresco for CmdrTaco.

Re:CmdrTaco (0, Offtopic)

jackb_guppy (204733) | about 12 years ago | (#4273297)

So did I.

Re:CmdrTaco (0, Offtopic)

JazerWonkie (598827) | about 12 years ago | (#4273322)

Don't worry the DoJ will be on you soon enough. I'm sure you've still got a copied program, or a rouge mp3 rolling around somewere in your hard drive.

(just a joke, please don't mod me down I can't afford it!!)

Re:CmdrTaco (0, Offtopic)

briglass (608949) | about 12 years ago | (#4273356)

Oh dear, then I misread my own post as a post by CmdrTaco. He's taking over my brain.

Re:CmdrTaco (0, Offtopic)

JazerWonkie (598827) | about 12 years ago | (#4273398)

You Stole Taco's identity!...Or maybe I should just read everything before I post.

Couple questions (5, Interesting)

BoneFlower (107640) | about 12 years ago | (#4273264)

1) Are you guilty?

2) If so, do you feel what you were doing should be illegal?

3) If so, why did you do it anyways?

Re:Couple questions (1, Troll)

Foofoobar (318279) | about 12 years ago | (#4273284)

Guilty? Define guilty? Did he do what they said he did? Of course he did... we all do. But does he regret it? Probably not. But I'll bet he regrets getting caught.

As I always say, the law only applies to those who get caught. Everyone else gets to do what they want.

Re:Couple questions (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4273384)

"Guilty? Define guilty?"

Mr. Clinton? I that you??

mv /bin/laden /dev/null? (2, Funny)

cculianu (183926) | about 12 years ago | (#4273369)

That command, if you are root, will clobber /dev/null. You may want to try rm -f /bin/laden instead.

Re:Couple questions (1)

Faust7 (314817) | about 12 years ago | (#4273421)

If not, what errors in the judicial process led to your conviction, and what rectification have you planned?

Just one question... (1)

gooberguy (453295) | about 12 years ago | (#4273265)

Why the name DrinkOrDie?

D/\ Gooberguy

Re:Just one question... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4273288)

Drink or Die used to host their warez (years ago) on .mil ftp servers that they had cracked (DoD, Department of Defense).

Hmmm (3, Funny)

DrNibbler (547534) | about 12 years ago | (#4273272)

Does he have a copy of Visual Studio.Net?

Re:Hmmm (2)

unicron (20286) | about 12 years ago | (#4273374)

No kidding. I also need the video add-on for Neverwinter Nights..

Do you wish you'd raped someone instead (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4273273)

Since you got more time than the average rapist, do you wish you'd raped someone instead of 'pirating' software?

Re:Do you wish you'd raped someone instead (-1, Flamebait)

Darkstar9969 (516815) | about 12 years ago | (#4273354)

Honestly sick question!!!

Software piracy doesn't tend to invoke the feelings family members and loved ones of the victim who want to wait outside the prison and beat the living shit out of the rapist!

Please mod the above AC down as low as you can go to go along with how victims feel for D E C A D E S to come after they are violated.

Anonymous is for good reason and the COWARD shoe fits!

duh (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4273375)

thats the point of his comment moron.

33 months ... (1)

BESTouff (531293) | about 12 years ago | (#4273274)

33 will be long, really. All that for copying software ? Do you think what you did was that bad ? I mean, is it really your fault if people don't buy software ?

Re:33 months ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4273366)

the 33 months weren't for the 'pirating' of software as much as the DISTRIBUTION of pirated software over SEVERAL YEARS.

Do you think you did anything wrong? (3, Interesting)

Unknown Poltroon (31628) | about 12 years ago | (#4273278)

Lots of things are illegal, a lot of them arent wrong. A lot of them are. Which did you do?

Quick request (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4273282)

Can you get me a free copy of Office XP before you go?

Oh, I can't resist... (1, Offtopic)

Apostata (390629) | about 12 years ago | (#4273285)

What do you think about Linux on the desktop?

Was it worth it? (2, Interesting)

FortKnox (169099) | about 12 years ago | (#4273287)

You had a career all lined up, and probably enough income to pay for everything you wanted.

You were intelligent enough to know it was wrong, so was it worth it?

Re:Was it worth it? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4273337)

Do you mean:
intelligent enough to know it was illegal?

illegal != wrong

Re:Was it worth it? (2)

p3d0 (42270) | about 12 years ago | (#4273352)

You were intelligent enough to know it was wrong, so was it worth it?
Now there's a loaded statement. Anyone who doesn't think it was wrong must not be intelligent?

Re:Was it worth it? (1)

FortKnox (169099) | about 12 years ago | (#4273396)

s/wrong/illegal

sorry 'bout that.

Re:Was it worth it? (5, Insightful)

Jester99 (23135) | about 12 years ago | (#4273416)

I call logical fallacy on you. Shame, shame.

Take the syllogism: "All New Yorkers must be Americans."

(So are you saying that if you're not from
New York, you're not from America?)

Given that the guy's an MIT student, we can safely assume with a reasonable degree of assurance that he's a smart cookie.

"All MIT students are smart enough to understand the consequences of illegal actions. He was an MIT student. Therefore, he's smart enough to understand the consequences."

The contraverse is not neccessarily true. Don't twist his logic like that. It fails.

Re:Was it worth it? (1)

Planesdragon (210349) | about 12 years ago | (#4273422)

Anyone who doesn't think it was wrong must not be intelligent?

Think "legally wrong." Moral or not, Ethical or not, it is something that will get you busted and tossed in jail if you do it often enough.

Re:Was it worth it? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4273451)

You had a career all lined up, and probably enough income to pay for everything you wanted.

You were intelligent enough to know it was wrong, so was it worth it?


That's a stupid fucking quesion, you asshole. Of course it wasn't worth it. His punishment is so excessive it makes me wonder if we're living in "The Land of the Free" or the People's Republic of China. He shared bits and bytes, ones and zeroes and now he's doing 3 years. Many rapists and other violent criminals don't do that much time.

Its sad that America is becoming "Of the Corporations, For the Corporations, and By the Corporations". I'm disgusted.

What do you think should change... (2, Interesting)

gTsiros (205624) | about 12 years ago | (#4273289)

If you could change one law, what would you do?

How serious was your crime? (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4273290)

I occassionly go warez shopping with carracho, should I be worried about a prison term for browsing these servers? Exactly how much software do you need to have to get 33 months in jail?

Would you like to (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4273291)

Buy some Steel Underwears for the next 33 months ?

What was your motivation? (5, Interesting)

Kaypro (35263) | about 12 years ago | (#4273293)

What motivated you to pirate software? Was it just because you could? Or were you trying to make some sort of philosophical statement regarding commercial software and the like?

Short question (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4273295)

Where can I download some warez?

Warez's future in light of DRM (5, Interesting)

Mdog (25508) | about 12 years ago | (#4273296)

There's been a lot of talk about DRM being built into Microsoft's next generation of operating systems. XP currently has the major annoyance (especially from a piracy perspective) of registration...do you think these new efforts will be able to significantly reduce the prevalance of Warez?

Do you think what you did was wrong? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4273301)

Do you think what you did was wrong? Do you think your sentence was fair? If not what would be a fair sentence for your activities?

The Economics Of Warez (5, Interesting)

gotroot801 (7857) | about 12 years ago | (#4273302)

The popular "pro-warez" argument is that if software companies made big-ticket products (for example, Photoshop) available for a lower cost, the demand for warez would drop. As someone in the know, do you think that's at all true?

Re:The Economics Of Warez (1)

Com2Kid (142006) | about 12 years ago | (#4273386)

The popular "pro-warez" argument is that if software companies made big-ticket products (for example, Photoshop) available for a lower cost, the demand for warez would drop. As someone in the know, do you think that's at all true?

I can tell you right now that that is true.

McNeel software makes a 3D modeling program called Rhino3d. It costs $895 full, or $195 academic.

Please compare that to Maya or 3D Studio Max.

Nearly every half arses Warez site on the net carries even the smallest over priced 3D program, but Rhino3D? Hell, even some of the warezers will tell you to stop being a cheap ass and to just go out and buy it.

Feelings (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4273308)

Are you feeling those butt cheeks clinch up yet?

what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4273312)

So help me to understand this one. He's convicted of trading warez and using his position at a major university to do it, yet /. decribes him as a "one of those evil 'software pirates'"? Excuse me? The irony implied by the editor is disturbing. Is it /.'s opinion that trading warez isn't wrong? The guy is a crook and he got caught. Why is there an underlying sense of coming to his defense here?

Jail... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4273314)

What do you anticipate getting fucked up the butt will be like? will you end up like this guy??

Thanks...

Re:Jail... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4273376)

Don't you mean THIS guy??

Re:Jail... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4273439)

you forgot the goatse.cx [goatse.cx] link d8)

Are you a fucking moron? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4273315)

Your a sysadmin at MIT and you can't afford to buy your own god damn games? I support warez if you can't afford games but as soon as I got a job I just started buying them.

Fucktard.

Re:Are you a fucking moron? (1)

sinistre (59027) | about 12 years ago | (#4273420)

I don't know this guy but if he is guilty of what he was convicted for then he was probably the guy supplying YOU with the warez you were using before you got a job...

How clueful are they? (5, Interesting)

jeffy124 (453342) | about 12 years ago | (#4273316)

In your opinion, how did the each party (prosecution, your lawyer, and most important - the judge) look when it came to their understanding of technology? Did they know every nook and cranny, or seemed lost in a maze of confusion? Do you think an understanding of the issues in question was a significant factor in court proceedings?

Questions (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4273317)

How long were you a member before you got caught?

Do you think your going to jail will have any affect on others who are doing what you are going to jail for?

What was your mistake/how did you get caught? (5, Interesting)

cculianu (183926) | about 12 years ago | (#4273318)

How did you get caught? I pirate warez all the time off UseNet and never managed to get caught. I even had a ratio ftp site running for a while. Was it a case of bad luck, or were your pirating habits getting out of control?

Do you feel a little like Johnny Depp in the movie blow? Were you flying high and then one day had a combination of bad luck/overzealousness that finally did you in?

HE'S NO KEVIN (2)

briglass (608949) | about 12 years ago | (#4273320)

DANG I couldn't find a FREE DrinkOrDie resistence movement! Well I guess he is bad. Your search - "free DrinkOrDie" - did not match any documents. Suggestions: Make sure all words are spelled correctly. Try different keywords. Try more general keywords.

Why did you trade? (2, Insightful)

jackb_guppy (204733) | about 12 years ago | (#4273328)

For what reason did you trade software...

It was fun?

It was a polical statment?

It was for profit?

Liked networks over CD?

Never though about it?

Question: (3, Funny)

Amtiskaw (591171) | about 12 years ago | (#4273329)

Would you have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for those pesky feds?

Re:Question: (2, Redundant)

Tomun (144651) | about 12 years ago | (#4273436)

..and that doj.

What's your opinion on the future of piracy ? (3, Redundant)

rainer_d (115765) | about 12 years ago | (#4273330)

Will copy-protection in-hardware stop piracy ?
Or will it just drive consumers to products that are more easy to copy, and with less usage-restrictions ?

Why ? (5, Interesting)

theefer (467185) | about 12 years ago | (#4273331)

Very basic question : Why did you join a "pirate" group ? Was it just for fun ? Did you have some ideology that led you to that ? Or did you like the feeling of making something forbidden ?

well (1)

floamy (608691) | about 12 years ago | (#4273335)

Do you think the ruling was unfair? Would you go back and not do what you did if you could? Do you think others that pirate software should be punished like you have?

How did they catch you? (5, Interesting)

e2d2 (115622) | about 12 years ago | (#4273336)

Seeing as how you guys operate in secret allowing only known members into your groups, how did they track you down? Was it from someone on the inside or was it from watching your activities from an outside source (such as ISP log,etc)? What of that did they present in the case? It would be interesting to know how they obtained this information so others may avoid the same fate.

Hardest to crack (5, Interesting)

HisMother (413313) | about 12 years ago | (#4273339)


What kind of protection is the hardest to crack?

But I don't wanna go to jail! (2)

Dutchmaan (442553) | about 12 years ago | (#4273341)

If you're going to pirate, how would you avoid detection by the authorities???

Oh wait.. never mind.

Two questions... (0)

nomayo (540663) | about 12 years ago | (#4273349)

One.) My involvement in the scene was primarily in the BBS days. I can see how the internet (and broadband) has changed the scene so drastically. What would you say are the positive and negative changes that the internet brought to the warez scene? Two.) What was your motivation to spend the time and money to stay involved in the group? I had similar involvements many years ago, and my primary motivation was the access that it got me. I knew folks who did it for the notoriety, some who were in it for the cash, as well as some who just enjoyed the race. -nomayo

How exactly did you get caught? (2, Interesting)

mrgrey (319015) | about 12 years ago | (#4273353)

How exactly did you get caught? Cyber-sting? Did someone rat on you? etc etc

Re:How exactly did you get caught? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4273423)

do you wear an eyepatch?

do you own a parrot?

Motivations (2, Troll)

AirLace (86148) | about 12 years ago | (#4273355)

What motivated you to pirate software? The press often reports that it's done because of peer pressure or the desire to cut down the profits of large software houses. But I have my own theory: I've noticed that people who pirate proprietary software like Microsoft Windows very often have a vendetta against Linux and open source hackers. This may be due to their own inability to use Linux, or their unwillingness to cooperate with the open source community. Did you feel that you were directly competing with Free Software developers by making the commercial counterparts freely available?

Unjust (4, Interesting)

pubjames (468013) | about 12 years ago | (#4273357)


33 months seems like an outrageous sentence. It seems unjust. The old guy who has been in charge of the photocopier at my local library for the last 20 years would be on death row if similar criteria were applied to him.

Do you think that justice in the USA these days is too influenced by corporations?

33.... hmmmm, coincidence? I think not! (1, Flamebait)

CFusion (302547) | about 12 years ago | (#4273358)

Did you come to any realizations after being sentenced? Like "Stealing software is bad cuz I got busted" or maybe "It's fine to steal software as long as you don't share it with everyone else".

Maybe the real moral of the story is "Illegal is illegal and if you do it and get busted you deserve everything you get", because in the end the people you are stealing from are the very people who are gonna pay your way for the next 33 months of your life: the general public.

Good Riddance (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4273368)

How do you feel now, big Warez king? I'll bet you'll be quite popular in fuck-you-in-the-ass prison. Warez scumbag.

Do DOD convictions show DMCA et. al. uneeded? (5, Interesting)

WECoyoteSooperGenius (318179) | about 12 years ago | (#4273370)

Doesn't the conviction of the DOD principles on traditional copyright infringement grounds negate the "digital is different" theme of the constant call by the (MP|RI)AA for stronger anti-circumvention measures?

Would stronger anti-circumvention laws or technical protective measure (TPMs) have affect the operations of DOD?

Do you think the DOD's conspicuous visibility (and the ease of online searches), made DOD easier to target that the street-corner DVD, VCD, and VCR vendors?

Is there any way to distribute content online that a copyright holder would not be able to find the that content -- assuming that the content was visible enough to have (in the language of fair use) an "impact on the fair market value of the work"?

OpenSource (2, Insightful)

theefer (467185) | about 12 years ago | (#4273371)

What do you think of Open Source ? Bad because there is nothing left to put on your warez website ? Or good because this has the same goal as software piracy : allowing people to use softwares for free (though I might be missing the point of piracy) ?

Sourcing or Propigating? (4, Interesting)

msheppard (150231) | about 12 years ago | (#4273372)

Did you get busted for copying from someone else and making available, or by making copies you bought/got from school available?

M@

Obvious (1)

Anonymous Cowtard (573891) | about 12 years ago | (#4273373)

So... you knew what you were doing could get you thrown in the klink. Why did you do it? To make a statement?

You do know the proper way to catch the eye of lawmakers in order to change a law is to gather a large enough portion of the population who supports changing the law instead of breaking said law in an effort to "stick it to the man", right?

Piracy Justification (4, Insightful)

RomSteady (533144) | about 12 years ago | (#4273377)

One of the most common justifications of software piracy is that it doesn't hurt the publisher or the creator. However, there are documented cases of it doing just that.

Blue Byte released an amazing game called "Incubation: Time Is Running Out," which sold moderately well...but not enough to cover their original expenditure on the product. They then released an expansion pack, "Incubation: The Wilderness Missions," which was the first product ever to use SafeDisc. The mission pack outsold the original game by 1.5x.

How can you justify piracy when so few titles break even on their development costs?

Put on a white hat? (5, Interesting)

HisMother (413313) | about 12 years ago | (#4273378)


When you get out, if you were offered a high-paying job to do so, would you use your knowledge to help protect software from other crackers?

Copyright this! (5, Interesting)

Foofoobar (318279) | about 12 years ago | (#4273379)

Ok, here is my question: Congress is considering making hacking punishable by life imprisonment, you are getting time that is equivalent to a rapist (as another poster commented).

Do you believe that this all out attack on the technically knowledgable by the digital illiterati enforcing the bloated bottomline of many of these companies will lead to an eventual electronic revolution or do you see the united states becoming controlled by copyright owners and corporations? And do you see hackers eventually out numbering the number of people in prison on drug related crimes?

Will this really change... (1)

gurnb (80987) | about 12 years ago | (#4273381)

how you operate after you get out?

Have you considered a new job field?

Microsoft Palladium (1)

BESTouff (531293) | about 12 years ago | (#4273383)

Microsoft (may have) designed its Palladium system to stop guys like you. As it seems pretty heavily-engineered, do you think it'll be effective to stop piracy ? Or will it just annoy legal users, as all previous protection schemes ?

Why did you do it? (1)

Hasie (316698) | about 12 years ago | (#4273390)

Every time there is a /. story about Warez a large part of the discussion focuses on why people collect Warez. But that is all just speculation.


As someone who was involved with the Warez scene: Why did you do it? What motivated you?

Have you read about Tubman? qjkx (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4273391)

I think of intellectual property laws (ALL and ANY intellectual properyt laws) as an evil on the order of slavery. Have you studied Harriet Tubman? As far as I'm concerned, you are in that league.

Re:Have you read about Tubman? qjkx (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4273444)

Mod parent up, I'm curious too.

Why Copy Proprietary Software? (2, Interesting)

turgid (580780) | about 12 years ago | (#4273397)

Why do people copy, or want to copy, proprietary software illegally when they can legally obtain copies of Free and Open Source software more easily (without doing cracks etc.), usually free of cost, and without risking fines or imprisonment? Do you see the status quo ever changing?

Re:Why Copy Proprietary Software? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4273442)

My question to your question is *where* does one find a listing of what free/open source software is designed to function like commercial software? In other words, where can I find software like PhotoShop, but free/open source for Windows? Where can I find Nero? Where can I find Adobe Premiere?

While everyone's touting free/open source software, how about *showing* those of us not in the know *where* to obtain such software? It might help the cause....

The price of software contributing to piracy (3, Interesting)

Radi-0-head (261712) | about 12 years ago | (#4273399)

Would you agree with the notion that many software companies aren't really losing much to piracy since someone who pirates, say, a copy of Adobe Photoshop would never have purchased it in the first place due to the outrageous cost?

Personally, there is a lot of software out there that I would find useful, though I couldn't afford to (legally) own it. I think that if Adobe charged half of what they do for, say, a current version of Photoshop, they would likely sell MORE legal copies and enjoy larger market penetration and larger profits. What's your take on this?

"The Bust", WarGames or Matrix? (5, Interesting)

msheppard (150231) | about 12 years ago | (#4273403)

What was "The Bust" like? Was it like _WarGames_ where they showed up in black vans and confiscated your computers and rifiled through your trash? Or was it more like _Matrix_ where they called you in and presented all sorts of evidence they collected online etc.. ?

M@

Tresco's Handle (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4273406)

Does anyone know this guy's handle? I couldn't find it in any of the posts or stories. It's great that we know his real name, but the name more likely to be recognized is the nick/handle/alias/etc.

What about abandonware? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4273408)

How do you feel about abandonware? Are you one of those, 'all software was created free' types or do you altruistically believe in freeing software that is nolonger supported.

And why is it so hard to get a copy of the original Sid Miers Pirates! ?

And I hope you're going to make some good jokes this Thursday (it's Talk Like a Pirate Day).

33 months is a long time. (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4273409)

There are rapists that get less than 33 months time for their crimes. How do you feel about that? Are you being used as an example to warn people committing similar crimes?

Theft (2, Flamebait)

Raiford (599622) | about 12 years ago | (#4273411)

Would you ever have considered stealing software from a store shelf as being wrong ? If so, how did you justify your actions in the trading ring ?

The most important question... (1, Funny)

unicron (20286) | about 12 years ago | (#4273412)

Bitch or Butch?

Guilty by association? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4273419)

Do you think that the sentence would have been lighter had you acted on your own, rather than as a member of a warez ring?

Why not more Mac warez (3, Interesting)

bsharitt (580506) | about 12 years ago | (#4273426)

Why isn't there more Mac warez? I had a hell of time finding Office v.X

Are you going to turn others in? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4273431)

I believe your ring to be a rather large one and that you know other people on a first name basis.

Will you turn the others in?
If so, are you afraid for your life?

Are you looking forward (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4273433)

To becoming somebody's girlfirend on the inside?
Because warezing little wankers like you end up as somebody's girlfriend. I hope you enjoy 33 months of anal stretching...hahahahaha

How could you have avoided being caught? (1)

NonSoftAntiCurve (442038) | about 12 years ago | (#4273435)

Knowing what the DoJ did to catch you, what would you recommend to others to prevent being caught? Were your personal security measures (encryption, anonymization, etc.) lax or altogether absent?

do you feel you are a scapegoat (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4273437)

do you think you are being punished as an example to deter others?

are you proud of your country?

do you believe you have ever damaged anyone, cost anyone money, or put them out of work? have you done harm?

Why? (5, Interesting)

MrEfficient (82395) | about 12 years ago | (#4273441)

What's the attraction of "pirating" software, especially with so much Free Software available? By illegally copying proprietary software, in a way you're actually supporting the companies that end up burning you (having you arrested and put in jail). What I mean by "supporting" is that the more people using proprietary software, legally or illegally, means less people using Free Software. Why not pour your time and effort into software which you won't get arrested for using?

average guy? (5, Interesting)

dextr0us (565556) | about 12 years ago | (#4273443)

do you think the average warez kiddie will ever get convicted of "warezing" or do you think that it will always be the release groupz?

Free butt plug (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4273447)

Give me your address, I'll send you a free butt plug.

Questions (0)

i64X (582393) | about 12 years ago | (#4273449)

1.) Do you think you would have still been cought had the warez scene been like it was back in the early 90's before all the "kiddies" and "leeches" came on the scene and started making it "popular" and raising the red flag to much unwanted attention? 2.) How do you feel about the scene now as opposed to back in the early 90's? I'm not going to ask "better or worse" because I know it's worse (maybe with the exception of broadband), but what do you feel is wrong with it now that wasn't back then? 3.) How do you feel about the quality of material and music and movies that are circulated on the scene? Personally I was sick back when Napster started getting popular, when someone in school walked up to me and asked me if I'd ever heard of an MP3 before, when they'd been around for 4 of 5 years before Napster was even someone's wet dream. I knew then that the quality of the music we were able to get was going to degrade QUICKLY, and now it's to the point where I'll sooner go out and get the CD to avoid something that someone's "MP3'ed" off TRL with microphone. Have you ever had any experiences like this?
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