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Retailers Won't Sell New Acclaim Game

timothy posted about 12 years ago | from the our-roof-our-rules dept.

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DrEnter writes "According to this Yahoo article, Wal-Mart, Toys R Us, and Kay-Bee Toys are refusing to carry Acclaim's new video game 'BMX XXX'. Best Buy has stated it will sell a censored version of the game. Acclaim is billing it as the first major release game to feature full-action nudity, with prostitutes and pimps and main characters. A Wal-Mart spokesman stated "We're not going to carry any software with any vulgarity or nudity -- we're just not going to do it." I'm pretty sure Wal-Mart sells rated-R movies (including those arguably targeted at the same age group as this game is), so make your own judgement..."

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In related news... (4, Funny)

Dimensio (311070) | about 12 years ago | (#4449870)

Acclaim has announced that the refusal of some retailers to carry the game would have no impact on sales, as no one has planned to buy the worthless piece of crap anyway.

Re:In related news... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4449889)

Considering the demographic of the average Wal-Mart shopper, it sounds like they shall be missing quite a lot of sales indeed.

Re:In related news... (4, Interesting)

coene (554338) | about 12 years ago | (#4449946)

On some level I agree (the Tony Hawks and BMX games popularity is a little crazy -- and this takes is a step further), but on a complete different level... This game looks funny as hell.

If you havent seen the trailer,

Seriously, the trailer makes it worth a rent at minimum... What red blooded male doesent like sports + nudity + pimps + hookers + weapons.. Especially in digital form!

Hey, the world is in moral decay.. and its only gonna get worse. This is the biggest step forward since GTA3. I say enjoy the ride.

Re:In related news... (2, Insightful)

M3shuggah (162909) | about 12 years ago | (#4449996) no one has planned to buy the worthless piece of crap anyway.

You're right! Their target audience of lonely guys will probably have enough time on their hands to sit on IRC and wait for slow transfer from the DCC server.

mmm porn (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4449874)

fp too, cant beat that really

here is some text:
(Use the Preview Button! Check those URLs! Don't forget the http://!)

Some places sell it (5, Interesting)

Henry V .009 (518000) | about 12 years ago | (#4449875)

There is all that Playboy and Penthouse software on the top shelf of the computer software section at Hastings...

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Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4449879)

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Ooooh (1, Redundant)

Guitarzan (57028) | about 12 years ago | (#4449881)

Let me be the first of many to say, "I'm so completely surprised at this."

Hmm, I didn't sound too convincing there, did I?

Walmart sells R rated movies, but not X rated (-1, Troll)

CathedralRulz (566696) | about 12 years ago | (#4449884)

and this game is doing it's best to go for the latter. Three cheers for corporations taking responsibility for their products.

Re:Walmart sells R rated movies, but not X rated (5, Insightful)

The Only Druid (587299) | about 12 years ago | (#4449907)

This isn't these stores taking "responsibility", its them acknowledging that the parents who can't police their children properly will shove their responsibility (that of the parents) onto the store. The fact is, if parents were able to actually take care of their children, it wouldn't matter if hard-core pornography was shelved next to Barney cartoons - the kids wouldn't ever actually get access. My parents made it quite clear whenever I was not to be doing something, and when I went behind their backs I was inevitably punished. More importantly, they explained their reasons for each edict, and as a result I respected their decisions as my parents instead of resenting them blindly. Thats the lesson the stores are teaching parents: if you dont take care of your kids, we'll do it for you. Thats plain fucking lazy.

Re:Walmart sells R rated movies, but not X rated (5, Insightful)

Ashcrow (469400) | about 12 years ago | (#4449917)

From reading the blurb from the acclaim site [] I would say it is not near X rated. While I do think it is compleatly distastefull, I think you can find more sexual content in "Not Another Teen Movie" or "Too High".

Re:Walmart sells R rated movies, but not X rated (2, Insightful)

The_dev0 (520916) | about 12 years ago | (#4449931)

The title may be XXX, but I doubt very much the content will actually be X-rated. After all, it is a game with nude girls riding bikes, not engaging in penetrative sex. From all the reviews i've read, it is just a rehash of the last game but with scantily-clad ladies on the bikes instead of blokes in baggy trousers.

X rated!?! (4, Funny)

penguin_punk (66721) | about 12 years ago | (#4449978)

now THAT's more like it. I haven't seen this good of a game since Leisure Suit Larry!

screenshot []

oh baby! - Jenni-cam move aside.

Re:X rated!?! (3, Interesting)

wass (72082) | about 12 years ago | (#4450055)

Cool screenshot. Shouldn't be too hard to release a version with the topless girls replaced by ones wearing a scant bikini, or something similar.

So all this hubbub is about computer-generated rendered boobs? That's hysterical. Brings new meaning to the concept of 'fake boobs' too.

What ever happened to Leisure Suit Larry? (5, Insightful)

name_already_in_use (604991) | about 12 years ago | (#4449887)

That was vulgar and featured nudity and everybody loved it. No stores, as I recall, refused to sell that. Still I suppose the graphics have come a little since those days, perhaps it is the realism that shocks them.

Re:What ever happened to Leisure Suit Larry? (3, Informative)

no soup for you (607826) | about 12 years ago | (#4449935)

But with Leisure Suit Larry you had to prove your age by answering questions to prove your age. Answer them correctly, and the blinds would rise all the way

oh, and you had to wait for the '91 remake [] to get 256 colors. Like you said, not exactly the realism you'd get today

Re:What ever happened to Leisure Suit Larry? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4449967)

what exactly were those questions? examples!

Re:What ever happened to Leisure Suit Larry? (5, Interesting)

no soup for you (607826) | about 12 years ago | (#4450019)

Careful what you wish for... following is a list of Q and A from the Leisure Suit Larry I Quiz.

Spoiler alert -- contains answers!!!

"Tiptoe Through the Tulips" was recorded by c Tiny Tim
"Where's the..." c beef?!
A nehru jacket is b out of date
Bourbon Street is in d New Orleans, Louisi
Calvin Klein is c a clothing designer
Captain Kangaroo's sidekick was d Mr. Greenjeans
Charlie McArthy and d Edgar Bergen
Does a pair of queens beat 3 deuces? a Yes, in Blackjack
Herb Alpert and the ____ Brass? a Tijuana
How many molecules are there in a glass of water? d as many as there ar [sic]
I find computer games with adult content b acceptable
If a physician were on an island with Bo Derek, he would thank God If Bo Derek were here, I'd ask her to d stop playing comput
It's not nice to fool b mother nature
Joe Dimaggio played b Baseball
Lee Harvey killed c John F. Kennedy
Mohammed Ali is c a professional boxe
Peter Piper picked pickled c peppers
Sergent Pepper was c the leader of the l
The largest state is b Alaska
The last name of Annette (on the Mickey Mouse Club) was c Funicello
The most effective form of birth control is a abstinence
The most likely place to find virgins is c St. Mary's Girl's S
The most populous city in the US is c New York
The result of Watergate was c Richard Nixon quit
Utah is full of d none of the above
When playing Monopoly you b must own 4 houses b
Which is non-alcoholic c Perrier
Which is not a car? d Toshiba
Which is not a cheese? d Reisling
Which is not a city in Mexico? c San Diego
Which is not an American armed force? d the national league
Which is not in Hawaii? c Fiji
Who has not been US attourney general? b Sam Shepard
Who is buried in Grants tomb? d Mrs. Grant
Who was not a famous musician? d Tom Garvey
Who was not a politician? c W.C. Fields
Who was not an astronaut? a John Milton
Who was the leader of Nazi Germany? d Adolf Hitler
Who wrote "To be or not to be"? a Will. Shakespeare

My compiments to google (as always) and Ken's cheats? []

Re:What ever happened to Leisure Suit Larry? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4449991)

i could get the questions right if I told them I was 50, but not if I told them I was 21. (this was when I was about 7 or 8) funny huh? I don't think i ever understood how to play either. I was too busy wackin' it into a stuffed animal version of Grimace!

Re:What ever happened to Leisure Suit Larry? (1)

name_already_in_use (604991) | about 12 years ago | (#4449992)

True, it did ask questions to verify you were old enough, I had forgotten that. I also forget what those were, but I do remember that when I played it I was only 10 years old, so they can't have been that taxing. But I see your point in that there should be a level protection against younger players playing, but age rating standards were not really around then and they are now, so I guess this 'masterpiece' from Acclaim must R rated or something?

Re:What ever happened to Leisure Suit Larry? (0)

Nuclear Fr0g (597615) | about 12 years ago | (#4449936)

You forget that Leisure Suit Larry asked you questions before you got to play it to ensure you were over 18 years old. They should ask you the same questions from the original from 1987 to ensure absolutely no one underage plays it.

Re:What ever happened to Leisure Suit Larry? (2)

4444444 (444444) | about 12 years ago | (#4449987)

Does anyone else here remember the original text adventure "soft porn"? they added graphics and called it leisure suite larry

Re:What ever happened to Leisure Suit Larry? (1)

Deadstick (535032) | about 12 years ago | (#4450008) was Time Magazine's review of Softporn that put Sierra on the map.


Re:What ever happened to Leisure Suit Larry? (3, Insightful)

astrosmash (3561) | about 12 years ago | (#4450018)

Don't forget Strip Poker for the Apple ][. Of course, I only played it because the game play was good.

Anyway, I don't think Wal-Mart wasn't around back then. If they had been around I'm sure they wouldn't have carried those types of games.

So, Wal-Mart sucks, and toy stores like Toys-R-Us are generally for kids so it's no surprise that they won't carry any 'pr0n' games either. I don't think it's a big deal.

Re:What ever happened to Leisure Suit Larry? (5, Informative)

Kraegar (565221) | about 12 years ago | (#4450052)

Ask the man himself, Al Lowe [] , creator of the series.

BMX XXX? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4449894)

WTF, a game about whores and bmx-bikes? Someone has been suckin' a bit too hard on the crackpipe.

slashdot grammar (5, Funny)

bo-eric (263735) | about 12 years ago | (#4449895)

[...]with prostitutes and pimps
and main characters

Prostitutes and pimps - sure, but main characters? Won't somebody please think of the children?

Re:slashdot grammar (-1, Redundant)

beerman2k (521609) | about 12 years ago | (#4449953)

Way to point out other people's typos. Let's all bow down before the great proof reader ;)

Traditional game content (5, Insightful)

Monkelectric (546685) | about 12 years ago | (#4449896)

"We're not going to carry any software with any vulgarity or nudity -- we're just not going to do it"

The walmart spokesman cleared his throat and continued, "The staple of gaming content has always been VIOLENCE. Sure, we'll sell games where you can watch someone get their head cut off, THATS good clean fun."

Re:Traditional game content (5, Insightful)

Thalia (42305) | about 12 years ago | (#4449972)

Why are you surprised? The same ratings scheme applies on television. If it's just people getting shot, well then the kiddies can watch no problem. If it's nudity, that's a problem. If it's MALE nudity, then it belongs on the triple-X channel only. Americans are a puritan bunch... and the puritans did approve of killing people (remember, they burned witches for entertainment value)... just not of sex.


Re:Traditional game content (2)

G-funk (22712) | about 12 years ago | (#4450061)

Hehehe.... Americans and their nudity.

Come to Australia, and visit bondi (or any major Sydney) beach (ugh I'd rather not, but I live in Queensland so I'm lucky)... You'll find 80% of the women strutting around topless. Try that in califorina, and you go to jail... I just can't believe it. Legally, on the start-time / content scale of television in the US, you can see a nipple be pierced, before you can see it be licked.

Won't somebody please think of the children!

Freudian slip? (5, Insightful)

Dr.Dubious DDQ (11968) | about 12 years ago | (#4449897)

From the article: "[...]all said they would not carry the game, a potential blow for the game's exposure. "

Never mind, of course, that loud refusal to carry the game because of its content will only BOOST interest in it overall...

(On a more serious note, I actually sort of approve of Wal-Mart, Kay Bee, etc. taking this sort of action. Not that I agree that people shouldn't sell the game, but that I'd much rather see those bothered by it saying "I'm not going to sell it" rather than "Others must be prevented from selling it" [e.g. by legislation] any day.)

What a joke (4, Interesting)

swagr (244747) | about 12 years ago | (#4449900)

Books, comics, movies, tv shows, news and games with violence are everywhere.
Violence is OK everyone.

A naked person, though, will destroy the fabric of society as we know it. And s*x, I won't even dare say the word.

Re:What a joke (5, Funny)

Hektor_Troy (262592) | about 12 years ago | (#4449976)

Actually it's worse that you think.

Think about it for a moment; there are only two words you need to mention, to show the bias in the media: "fucking" and "farting".

You can have a fuck-specialist on the news, who's just written a book about how to fuck, who to fuck, how to feel after you fucked and who you should fuck next. You just don't call it fucking. Hell, look at day-time TV. You know that in that soap-opera you enjoy, all it really revolves around, is did he fuck her, has he fucked her, who else did he fuck, did she fuck someone else and what the fuck is going on.

But - when was the last time you saw ANYONE even talk about farting? You've never had anyone on the Late Show who's just written a book about how to fart, who to fart at, how to feel after you farted and who you should fart at next.

Farting is WORSE than fucking! Think about that for a while.

(With apologies to George Carlin).

Double Standard. (2, Insightful)

The_dev0 (520916) | about 12 years ago | (#4449901)

I can sort of understand why the toy stores won't stock it, but i'm assuming walmart/bestbuy are department stores. If they sell DVD titles (movies) that are R18+ rated, why the double standard for a video game? Did these stores also refuse GTA3 and the forthcoming GTA3:vice-city for their sexual content? It seems a little contradictory to me.

Nothing much to see here; carry on (5, Insightful)

ekrout (139379) | about 12 years ago | (#4449904)

Just like one of the posters said on the accompanying message board, this is nothing but capitalism working as it normally does, and working quite well.

"Developers have the right to make it. Stores have the right to carry it or shun it. We have the right to buy it, ignore it or shop elsewhere."

Sure, it serves as an eye-popper and conversation piece for news outlets since there's (gasp!) nudity in a video game, but it's not like 99.6% of all 15-year old guys haven't already seen a naked woman on video, in a magazine, or (hopefully ;-D) in person.

Re:Nothing much to see here; carry on (2)

FunkSoulBrother (140893) | about 12 years ago | (#4449964)

exactly.. I would bet that the issue is entirely capitalism and money.

In fact, i wouldnt be surprised if they had done market research that said they make MORE money by NOT selling the game, because Joe Churchgoer is so impressed with their moral stance that he buys all his groceries and toys there from now on.

Sounds like a good business plan for me, especially considering most of the people (like me) that get mad about censorship will just buy the game online or at K-mart and then continue to buy our lawn furniture at Wal-Mart because its convienent, thus giving them business anyhow.

the terrorists have won! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4449905)

oh my god, the sky is falling!!!
the terrorists have won!!
where's nancy reagan??

Nor.. (2)

Lord Bitman (95493) | about 12 years ago | (#4449906)

do they cary Divi Dead, Critical Point, Tokimeki Check-In!, or any other such game. I hate censorship, but unless you expect these other games to show up at Wal-Mart, this isnt at all newsworthy.
Besides, I seem to recall reading about a stalker/rapist sim that was in full 3d, I'm pretty sure that had nudity. Go fuck yourself "BMX XXX" bullshit.

Not unusual... (3, Insightful)

Yert (25874) | about 12 years ago | (#4449910)

Wal-Mart has a history of selling censored music selections; it's not surprising to hear that they aren't willing to sell a soft-porn version of a game. Especially when you consider that while middle-age men may buy movies at Wal-Mart while the wimmunfolk are shopping; most of the PC and console gamers that buy from Wal-Mart (or K-B, or Toys-R-Us) are under 18.

That being said, what retailers _are_ going to be selling the uncensored version of the game?

Not a big deal unless its legislated. (5, Insightful)

FunkSoulBrother (140893) | about 12 years ago | (#4449911)

People will do as they want. If stores didnt carry Grand Theft Auto 3, they would be losing out on a good chunk of change.

If this game gets that popular, then either they will sell it or miss out on the profit.

I really dont have a problem with things like this unless it is the government (federal, state, or local) saying that something can't be sold in town, state, or country. If Wal-Mart et al want to not sell it, frankly, its their business.

Of course it is good that the public stays informed... Wal-mart doesnt get my money when I need paper towels any more if they choose to censor this.

But that their choice, and I imagine plenty of other people who like dirty games will continue to buy their paper towels at Wal-Mart.

Re:Not a big deal unless its legislated. (1)

taperkat (570124) | about 12 years ago | (#4449961)

If stores didnt carry Grand Theft Auto 3, they would be losing out on a good chunk of change. Sears didn't sell Max Payne, GTA3, but they would sell Medal of Honor. why? because it offered realistic views of death. a death is a death no matter how you cut it.. eesh.

Re:Not a big deal unless its legislated. (2, Insightful)

FunkSoulBrother (140893) | about 12 years ago | (#4449995)

If stores didnt carry Grand Theft Auto 3, they would be losing out on a good chunk of change. Sears didn't sell Max Payne, GTA3, but they would sell Medal of Honor. why? because it offered realistic views of death. a death is a death no matter how you cut it.. eesh.

Exactly, thats what I mean. And sears lost a little video game revenue by doing so. Whether it was made up by new shoppers proud of Sears' moral stance i'm not sure, but either way, its their decision.

Not worth bitching over unless you hold Sears stock.

sigh (3, Funny)

tx_mgm (82188) | about 12 years ago | (#4449916)

good, my little 6 year old billy is way too young to see such vulgarity! the makers of this game should be thrown in jail for exposing our children to this filth!
now, if you'll excuse me. i need to take billy to the movies, he wants to see the transporter.

Re:sigh (1)

tx_mgm (82188) | about 12 years ago | (#4449939)

ah! typo! before you mod that down, i meant to say it was not a troll! really!

This just means... (5, Insightful)

Cytlid (95255) | about 12 years ago | (#4449918)

... I won't *buy* it at Wal-mart, Best Buy...

this is not the first time (3, Interesting)

asv108 (141455) | about 12 years ago | (#4449919)

I beleive there were also similar efforts back in the day invlovling Leisure Suit Larry [] , but I doubt any of those retailers sold PC games during the 80's and early 90's when Leisure Suit Larry was at its peak. This probably the best publicity going, especially if the game isn't that good, which I can't imagine how BMX and XXX would go together well.

Sales ploy??? (1, Interesting)

umStefa (583709) | about 12 years ago | (#4449923)

This smells to me like a marketing ploy. Remember Showgirls?, one of the worst movies ever but by stirring up controversy the movie generated sufficent sales to be profitable.

Since profitablity is the bottem line for Acclaim here, by getting the media to report on major chains refusing to carry the game they will probally generate more sales and hence greater profits.

American Double Standard, yet again. (1)

jessemckinney (398160) | about 12 years ago | (#4449924)

I would imagine that they would have us think that there is notheing wrong with violence, and everything wrong with sex. Talk about a messed up set of priorities. This is the same thing that happens in every blockbuster. All violence and no sex. This sends a clear message to people.

well... (3, Informative)

jgerman (106518) | about 12 years ago | (#4449925)

I'm pretty sure Wal-Mart sells rated-R movies (including those arguably targeted at the same age group as this game is

Walmart does however, sell censored versions of a lot of media. Which is why I refuse to buy anything there. I'd hate to bring a cd or dvd home that's been Walmartized.

Re:well... (1)

hkmp5sd5 (98671) | about 12 years ago | (#4450025)

note the above post, it takes away your comparisions with movies and songs that you were probably gonna write about

Thank You from Acclaim! (4, Funny)

Perdo (151843) | about 12 years ago | (#4449926)

Dear Walmart,

Thank you for insuring that our new game "BMX XXX" becomes the most sought after title to ever hit the market. You see, in our business there is no such thing as bad publicity, which you have provided us in spades. We are now the "Sopranos" of the gaming world. There is nothing like controversy to insure we have an audience.

Again, Thank You.

P.S. We're sorry you are going to miss the sales revenue generated by this sleeper cult classic... On second thought, we could care less about your puritanical revenue model destroyed by a week's loss in imports.

Guaranteed to sell now... (1)

WarpedMind (151632) | about 12 years ago | (#4449929)

This kind of censorship will ensure this thing will be one of the hottest things selling. They may not carry it in the stores, but watch their online sites. Also watch for this thing to be traded like crazy on EBay.

Of course I'm speaking from the truely informed position of someone who doesn't even own a console of any kind. (My kid is still to young to badger me for one.)

XXX? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4449934)

Prostitutes and pimps and main characters, oh my!

Wal-mart. (1)

/dev/trash (182850) | about 12 years ago | (#4449942)

Wal-mart was the retailer than pulled teh Goo-Goo Dolls album "A Boy Named Goo" because the boy on the cover had 'goo' that looked like blood and Wal-mart doesn't like to sponsor child abuse.


Re:Wal-mart. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4449955)

Incidentally, any pulled Goo Goo Dolls merchandise is a good thing. But the censorship thing still sucks.

They also removed Tool's Undertow CD because it had an X-ray photo of a dude with a flashlight or something lodged in his rectum(on the inner-sleeve).

Re:Wal-mart. (1)

lateralus_1024 (583730) | about 12 years ago | (#4449986)

Wal-Mart is very much against Child Abuse. But if that child abuse is in say.... a sweat shop in Malaysia, then it's all good.
Line up the youngin's...we need to weave some floor mat's!!

Acclaim... (5, Interesting)

Schnapple (262314) | about 12 years ago | (#4449944) the greasy turd on the game industry. What with buying ad space on tombstones, to paying people to change their names to "Turok", to paying speeding tickets for people on their way to buy their racing game, they're scum (though all these promotions did originate in the U.K.). Plus, Acclaim is the "quick and dirty" game house - when you want your property made into a game qucikly and don't give a crap about the game being good (any South Park game, any of the Batman movie games), Acclaim will proudly take your money and make you some piece of crap in a record amount of time.

Acclaim is to the game industry what Troma is to the movie industry.

On a related note, does anyone know if this game will use the extremely rare "AO" (Adults Only) ESRB rating?

Re:Acclaim... (1)

pythas (75383) | about 12 years ago | (#4449983)

It's rated M.

Come to think of it, I've never seen an AO rated game at all, anywhere.

Have any even been made, or is it just commercial suicide?

Re:Acclaim... (3, Informative)

Tar-Palantir (590548) | about 12 years ago | (#4450042)

Read the article -- it indicates the game will carry a "Mature" rating, which I believe means 17 and up only.

GTA 3 comparisons? (5, Insightful)

sielwolf (246764) | about 12 years ago | (#4449948)

I think the article's comparisons to GTA 3 are unfounded. Why? Because GTA 3 had some very innovative gameplay: a continuous and hugely interactive world with missions taking place directly in the environment, a wide variety of exploration options leading to a huge replay value.

BMX XXX is a.... bmx game. Now I'm not going to say that GTA 3 is a Goodfellas or even a Sopranos but it at least had a semi-adult theme: criminal underworld. It was about as accurate as... I dunno, a CBS Sunday Night movie on the mob. And so there was little stretching the imagination to see that prostitution and drugs and violence would be involved.

But a BMX game? It's like trying to get people to switch to Linux by lacing nekkid girlie pictures into the kernel. A shallow attempt to spice something up.

Re:GTA 3 comparisons? (1)

josh crawley (537561) | about 12 years ago | (#4450005)

--It's like trying to get people to switch to Linux by lacing nekkid girlie pictures into the kernel. A shallow attempt to spice something up.

Is there something wrong when I press autopr0n pics onto debian 3.0r1 discs? It sure tempts Windows users.

Gheh heh heh

Ok to play at killing but not at making love. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4449949)

Very American: ok for kids to see bullets but not dicks. Violence is acceptable but sex is just dirty.

Good (1)

SexyKellyOsbourne (606860) | about 12 years ago | (#4449950)

Now that we have advanced systems and greedy corporations profiting off of putting smut on every CD until most of the games on the market are rated R (MA-17 or whatever), it's going to have some definite effects on society.

We already have enough people who are desensitized to this killing -- I felt terrible when I blew someone's head into a bunch of tiny pink chunks in Counter-Strike, I was appalled. Now I can watch Faces of Death without flinching, and I frequently think of blowing people apart in real-life with an AR-15 like in Counter-Strike, and it scares me.

Now games go further than violence, like with Grand Theft Auto 3 -- and with every kid in our nation being latchkey kids, we're going to raise an entire generation of sociopaths that are going to make the droogs in A Clockwork Orange look like a choir boys.

Corporations are getting rich off of peddling smut, and it's about time family businesses took a stand against the immoral and depraved game industry.

Re:Good (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4450048)

Die goatsex link posting motherfucker! Moderators, force this asshole to come up with a new identity to troll under.

Wal Mart (1)

Evro (18923) | about 12 years ago | (#4449952)

I'm pretty sure Wal-Mart sells rated-R movies (including those arguably targeted at the same age group as this game is), so make your own judgement...

When you buy an R-rated movie at Wal-Mart, at checkout, a thing pops up to remind the cashier to ask you for ID. So yes, Walmart does sell those movies, but no, they don't sell them to under-17 people. And I challenge you to find movies with full frontal nudity on Walmart's shelves.

Re:Wal Mart (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4449990)

Well, I haven't been to the store yet, but the walmart web site has Eyes Wide Shut. Personally, I think this was one of the raunchiest movies I've seen in a while. There ya go

Re:Wal Mart (1)

welshsocialist (542986) | about 12 years ago | (#4450038)

I've seen R rated movies at Wal Mart. I never buy due to the fact that I don't want to use my dollars to support a group that censors [] things it doesn't care for.

comment (4, Funny)

sstory (538486) | about 12 years ago | (#4449956)

I can't see that this is a big deal. I'm a member of the ACLU, and don't see anything wrong with Acclaim making the game, or people buying it, but is it a big deal that a store doesn't want to sell a bmx game with naked chicks in it? No. I can't even remember the last time I was in a Wal-Mart.

On another note, this game might be just what it takes to get me into gaming. Final Fantasy didn't do it, but if Aki had been naked....

cmon, where's the luv, baby... (2, Funny)

_PimpDaddy7_ (415866) | about 12 years ago | (#4449959)

Cmon, they made me look REAL great in the pimp outfit, you guys gotta check out this game!

Little Johnny on the Redline, performs endos and bunny hops for my ladies....

Eminem (3, Insightful)

ekrout (139379) | about 12 years ago | (#4449960)

OK, so Wal-mart, K-mart, and Quicky-marts can sell Eminem albums (and lots of 'em), but they won't dare sell videogames with 16-bit color depth-versions of naked women?

So the following sample of Eminem lyrics -- "Ya'll niggas wanna dead..Then wanna ride..Ya'll know the niggas that be steady screamin'.. (Fuck you!).. It's murda murda.. you know it's murda murda.. We scream it.. we yell it.. we livin' murda murda murda" -- is perfectly wholesome, family-oriented poetry, but the aforementioned dorky BMX racing game is just too crude to sell?

Re:Eminem (1)

Istealmymusic (573079) | about 12 years ago | (#4450034)

Clearly its a conspiracy we cannot perceive. Initiated death is accepted, initiated procreation is not. Humankind has swayed towards violence as its population has grown out of control, out of bounds, out of reach of the world's food supply--and it has turned back on itself, condemning creation, encouraging the opposite. It's a perfectly natural biological phenonmena--ever put a dozen pigons in an oversmall pen? They don't fuck, they kill.

Re:Eminem (2, Insightful)

jumpingfred (244629) | about 12 years ago | (#4450039)

I don't think that Wal-Mart sells Eminem's music. Certainly did not have any. Wal-Mart gets a lot of flack for requesting clean versions of discs for sale at wal-mart.

Re:Eminem (1)

alienw (585907) | about 12 years ago | (#4450066)

Eminem albums at wally's world are censored/bleeped, btw. Also, if I owned a store, I would _not_ sell a game called "BMX XXX". The name is inappropriate by itself, and implies that it's porn (even though it's not). Besides, it's probably crap, so who cares?

marketing ploys don't transfer tactual products (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4449962)

Acclaim's marketing staff is well known for their marketing ploys. They would give you a 1000 pounds if you legally changed your name to Turok (losers!) and would pay for your speeding ticket on a particular day if you went and bought Burnout.

They did a good job in marketing Burnout and Turok, those games have actual substance to them. However to differentiate yourselves from other games by throwing in naked chicks instead of unique gameplay is pretty weak on the developers part.


Who needs retailers anyways? (2, Informative)

Istealmymusic (573079) | about 12 years ago | (#4449963)

All retailers do is mark up prices and provide you with friendly customer service, why do we need to go through them? I'm buying my BMX XXX directly from BMX, in bulk. Screw Walmart.

Outrageous (2, Troll)

drhairston (611491) | about 12 years ago | (#4449965)

I'm not sure I agree with the story's claim that Wal-Mart sells R-rated movies to the 12-and-under audience this game was created for. That would be illegal. Some fact checking appears to be in order.

this aint a first (1)

i.r.id10t (595143) | about 12 years ago | (#4449973)

I can remember quite a few different pr0n-themed Quake maps and mods, and that was back when Quake/QuakeWorld was it. Of course, those weren't in a toystore on the shelf with "XXX" in the name.

Doesn't affect me.. (5, Funny)

Anonvmous Coward (589068) | about 12 years ago | (#4449975)

... until Kazaa users turn ethical.

I know that walmart sold (1)

Rooked_One (591287) | about 12 years ago | (#4449981)

Leisure Suit Larry.... This is just a PR move made by some 50 or 60 year old people who just don't have thier screws right.

Free market. (3, Insightful)

ekephart (256467) | about 12 years ago | (#4449988)

"I'm pretty sure Wal-Mart sells rated-R movies (including those arguably targeted at the same age group as this game is), so make your own judgement..."

This is likely because video games present an interactive environment. While movies may desensitize us to violence and sex, video games give us the feel that we are part of the action. When presented this simply (which is how the general public is likely to perceive it) video games with similar adult or violent content are worse than movies of the same genre.

That said, this move by these retailers isn't something to poo-poo too much. Retailers are free in this society to choose what they carry. No one goes into a WalMart and demands they sell hardcore pr0n. As a corollary these businesses have their respective markets to think about. For instance, one may prefer to buy a book at B&N over some Christian book stores, even though they may carry the same book (I don't know what book but just as an example), because of the "JESUS! JESUS! JESUS!" mentality that store may push on its customers. While they aren't the same, IMHO proselytizing in a bookstore isn't all that different than big SALE signs and such over merchandise. Let's not also forget we do have a free market and where there is a demand for the game there will be someone willing to sell and produce it. I predict much of the sales of this game will be online.

ut2003 is sold at walmart... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4449989)

'We're not going to carry any software with any vulgarity or nudity -- we're just not going to do it'

do they sell UT2003? I got that to say 'Holy shit', that's probably vulgar compared to their standards...

let's not forget the Sims has tons of nude people(blurred out but easily 'fixed')

I knew it!! You all want to see it! (1)

mhoover (446585) | about 12 years ago | (#4449993)

You assholes are slowing down my chance at seeing some naked CGI hoes!

Stop it before I bitch smack you!

BTW - I think I will at least rent it, yeah, I'm sick like that.

Walmart, thinking of the children (3, Insightful)

Pauly (382) | about 12 years ago | (#4449994)

"A Wal-Mart spokesman stated "We're not going to carry any software with any vulgarity or nudity -- we're just not going to do it."

Pretty sanctimonious words for the largest retailer of firearms in the US [] .

Re:Walmart, thinking of the children (1)

Trusty Penfold (615679) | about 12 years ago | (#4450050)

The constitution requires you to own guns. The constitution does not require you to own video games.

Re:Walmart, thinking of the children (1)

Anonymous Cowtard (573891) | about 12 years ago | (#4450059)

Yep... how dare they do something guaranteed by the 2nd ammendment. (BTW, you can't say they are infringing on 1st amendment rights since they aren't the government.)

Ye-ha (0)

houseofmore (313324) | about 12 years ago | (#4450002)

Anyone with a bit of self respect wouldn't really shop at any of those store would they?

Re:Ye-ha (1)

RedWolves2 (84305) | about 12 years ago | (#4450027)

I buy my games at Toys R Us they have a pretty good selection.

its almost as if (1)

RedWolves2 (84305) | about 12 years ago | (#4450010)

It is almost as if these stores are owned by AOL Time Warner. They have the same philosophy which is we know what is best for our customers.

Mirror of the movie (Quicktime) (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4450013)

Acclaim Responds To Criticism (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4450016)

When Acclaim was asked to comment on the current situation, the CEO had this to say:

"I am outraged that consumers are even THINKING that we are targeting children. Every CD bought comes with a EULA that requires them to return the merchandise if they are not at least 21 years old."

When asked why Acclaim gives 5 packs of Pokemon Trading Cards with each purchase, he had no comment.

Even a GameCube release (3, Insightful)

joeflies (529536) | about 12 years ago | (#4450021)

Even more suprising is that it's getting a game cube release, a platform that has segmented out a family environment. Nintendo's the same company that refused to give a 3rd party publisher (wasn't it akklaim as well) to use "red" blood in Mortal Kombat 2 for SNES (it was changed to grey to give the illusion of sweat).

Yes, I know Nintendo's changed their policy over the years to accomodate fighting, but I'm surprised that they are going beyond the line that WalMart draws.

tough decision (2)

carpe_noctem (457178) | about 12 years ago | (#4450022)

hrmmm...if I want to look at digital images of boobs, I think I'll just go look at some porn online and save myself the 20$ for the game and the hour of boredom of playing the game (just to see the digital boobs, nonetheless). ;]

Bravo...almost (2)

Longinus (601448) | about 12 years ago | (#4450023)

I'm and old school gamer. I prefer things 2D over 3D, and think that then quality of the industry has taken a major dive since the popularization of the Playstation (and the ensuing "Playstation Generation) and blatant T&A based franchises like Tomb Raider et al. Naturally, I abhor BMX XXX to its core and wish nothing more than it's utter failure (and the failure of shovelware, gimmicky publishers like Acclaim). Because of this, my first reaction to this news was one of adulation if for no other reason than that this refusal to carry the game will result in fewer sales and send a message to Acclaim to maybe try making a real game instead of peddeling sex to horndog high-schoolers who for some reason think polygonal tits are real neat (trust me guys, flesh is much better).

However, upon further reflection, I realized that a bocott like this on the part of retail chains goes against something I value greatly: freedom. By not carrying these games, not only have Wal-Mart and others create undue hype and press for this piece of shit, but effectively takes power and freedom away from consumers to make their own choices by making them for them. This is not a good thing.

So, as much as I hope this game gets rejected "like a 32X-Sega Virtual Boy Hybrid from Atari*," I wish more that retail chains would stop making choices for consumers and creating hype for crap like this. We're the only ones it hurts, and Acclaim (the company who tried to advertise on grave headstones and offered $10,000 to the first couple to name their child "Turok") is banking on just this kind of publicity.

*Thanks to Dave Halverson of Play and formerly of GameFan for that tastey quote.

More nonsense from Slashcrap (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4450024)

'DrEnter writes "According to this Yahoo article, Wal-Mart, Toys R Us, and Kay-Bee Toys'

"Toys 'R Us", moron.

'Best Buy has stated it will sell a censored version of the game.'

"Best Buy has stated THAT it will..."

'Acclaim is billing it as the first major release game'

"Major-release" game you idiot.

'with prostitutes and pimps and main characters.'

"prostitutes and pimps AS main characters." Jesus!

'I'm pretty sure Wal-Mart sells rated-R movies(including those arguably targeted at the same age group as this game is), so make your own judgement..."'

It sounds like you are trying to influence us, dolt.

What "news" site carries such subjective work as this crap? Rot in hell.

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Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4450026)

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Walmart Censorship (1)

_LFTL_ (409654) | about 12 years ago | (#4450030)

A Wal-Mart spokesman stated "We're not going to carry any software with any vulgarity or nudity -- we're just not going to do it." I'm pretty sure Wal-Mart sells rated-R movies (including those arguably targeted at the same age group as this game is), so make your own judgement..."

I'm not sure about R-rated movies, but Wal-Mart has a pretty long history of censorship including sanitizing CDs [] , and refusing to sell magazines with "indecent" covers. So this move doesn't really surprise me, and I wouldn't be surprised to find out that they refused to sell certain R-rated movies for the same reasons (whatever they are).

Thank Goodness... (2, Funny)

mythosaz (572040) | about 12 years ago | (#4450031)

Thank goodness Wal-Mart still sells shotguns and rifles in the sporting goods section. (Milage in your state my vary..)

Pervsion (2)

Beebos (564067) | about 12 years ago | (#4450035)

IMHO, people who are afraid of the human body and sex are the perverted ones. I'm willing to bet that sex is one of the most frequently repeated activities on the planet. Therefore, its is a normal, healthy human activitiy.

All you christian zelots and psycologically repressed people are on the outside of normal group, not the inside. Censorship, even voluntary self-censorship, is sicker than any sexual activity between consenting adults.

gameplay not graphics! (4, Informative)

cdf12345 (412812) | about 12 years ago | (#4450064)

Remember when everyone kept saying that all that matters is how well the game plays? Not how it looks.

Its based on dave mirras bmx so it actually is very playable.

Now i have to rip on best buy a little here. I understand, hell i expect censorship from walmart, theyve been censoring their music for years. But bust buy? Come on! Look at all the movies they sell (and ive bought) un edited: requiem for a dream, mulholland drive (nice lezzie scene there) and countless anime titles. Why are games different?

I see. Texture maped polygonal nipples are a danger to america and our way of life!

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