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Apple Won't Be At Macworld Boston

CmdrTaco posted about 12 years ago | from the change-of-plans-here dept.

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analog_line writes "Apple apparently is none too pleased about the decision to move Macworld to Boston from New York in 2004. So much so that they have said that they 'will not be participating in Macworld Boston.' They are also considering pulling out of Macworld New York 2003, though they say they will be at Macworld San Francisco."

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further comments (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4472215)

Senior execs added: "Have you seen the hookers in Boston? I'm not traveling across 3 timezones for that..."

Re:further comments (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4472259)

I think it's important to note that Apple execs would be clients of GAY hookers.

Re:further comments (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4472308)

well, they did say they were planning to keep the show in San Francisco ;)

Come on. Watch the language. (-1, Troll)

liposuction (176349) | about 12 years ago | (#4472338)

They prefer "heterosexually challenged".

Haven't the new beetles, rainbow stickers and vegi-whoppers taught us anything?

Sheesh.

one word (-1, Flamebait)

RebelTycoon (584591) | about 12 years ago | (#4472230)

assholes...

talk about a little baby... Hey Steve... Baby want his bottle?

Re:one word (0, Offtopic)

RebelTycoon (584591) | about 12 years ago | (#4472431)

this ain't flame bait...

Steve Jobs is a flamer.. He doesn't get his way so he pouts and throws a temper-tantrom... Plz..

Re:one word (-1)

Salad Shooter (600065) | about 12 years ago | (#4472633)

That's more than one word, you asshole.

Big Dig? (5, Insightful)

Christopher_G_Lewis (260977) | about 12 years ago | (#4472232)

Can you blame them given current (well, the past 5-10 years :-) traffic conditions in downtown Boston?

Re:Big Dig? (2, Informative)

Jucius Maximus (229128) | about 12 years ago | (#4472292)

They probably realised all of their big announcements would be leaked by someone before the show and thne they would have no reason for being there.

It's happened a bunch of times in the past few years.

Re:Big Dig? (5, Informative)

dubiousmike (558126) | about 12 years ago | (#4472296)

The convention center has a pretty much direct road (pretty new - still says "authorized vehicles only, but cabs and pretty much everyone else, uses it to get to the airport. This road is also accessable from exit 18 on 93 which is just south of Boston) to the airport, thanks to the Big Dig.

My understanding of the article from Boston.com, is that their not attending their own party could have to do with IDG (convention organizers) no longer "investing" in NY.

Re:Big Dig? (3, Funny)

Latent IT (121513) | about 12 years ago | (#4472307)

Clearly you've never driven through New York. ;p

(Where it's being moved from)

Re:Big Dig? (2, Insightful)

ivan256 (17499) | about 12 years ago | (#4472439)

Clearly you've never driven through New York. ;p

Clearly you've never driven in Boston. It makes driving in Ney Your seem like a dream come true.

Re:Big Dig? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4472550)

Who drives in New York besides cabbies. And Javitz is actually one of the easier places to get to since it is right behind the Licoln Tunnel and near the Henry Hudson (Joe DiMaggio) Parkway. As long as you don't try to get there right at rush hour it isn't so bad. I still recommend taking a cab or walking from the Port Authority.

Re:Big Dig? (5, Funny)

bigpat (158134) | about 12 years ago | (#4472387)

2004 is a year after the big dig will be done. bigdig.com [bigdig.com]

Re:Big Dig? (3, Funny)

dubiousmike (558126) | about 12 years ago | (#4472537)

So they say...

I'll believe it when ny building stops shaking from all of the impact hammering.

Re:Big Dig? (5, Funny)

Frothy Walrus (534163) | about 12 years ago | (#4472551)

2004 is a year after the big dig will be done.

but then, so is 1986...

Re:Big Dig? On Time and Under Budget(tm) (1)

Christopher_G_Lewis (260977) | about 12 years ago | (#4472554)

On time? Or has the schedule slipped 30% like the budget.

For an alernate view [bigdigsucks.com]

Re:Big Dig? (5, Funny)

Raptor CK (10482) | about 12 years ago | (#4472641)

If you believe that, I've got a monorail to set up in your town.

While I hope that you're right, I fear that you're wrong.

Whoops. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4472243)

Well i'll bet they are smacking their heads against the wall right about now. But seriously ... BOSTON!?!?!

It's my party (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4472244)

and I'll cry if I want to...

It never made sense. (2, Funny)

L. VeGas (580015) | about 12 years ago | (#4472260)

I don't understand why they would want to go to begin with. I mean, Big Mac's are pretty good, but personally, I would rather go to something like NachoWorld.

Re:It never made sense. (5, Funny)

stratjakt (596332) | about 12 years ago | (#4472333)

I thought it was a pimp convention!

Boy, was I was wrong.

And the only hoochie there was this drugged up kid who kept babbling on about how her term paper going "beep beep beep" even though it was "really good".

Maybe... (3, Funny)

name_already_in_use (604991) | about 12 years ago | (#4472266)

..Microsoft could go in their place.

Re:Maybe... (3, Funny)

DRnetman86 (617230) | about 12 years ago | (#4472353)

Yeah. And Satan would end his career as the prince of darkness and become a ski instructor.

Re:Maybe... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4472587)

Um.. Microsoft has always gone to MacWorld. They are actually the largest software producer for the Mac (maybe second to Adobe). Maybe you should do some research before posting your drivel.

Re:Maybe... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4472631)

Yes but they don't go 'in their place', do they, you twat.

Re: Maybe Steve Jobs... (1)

barfarf (544609) | about 12 years ago | (#4472515)

... could hire Steve Ballmer to dance for him in his place too!

Hmmm.... you know, I would pay to see that... kinda like a spectator at a traffic accident...

Can they afford to do this? (4, Interesting)

guidobot (526671) | about 12 years ago | (#4472268)

It's not like Apple is doing so well [eweek.com] that they can afford to play the role of protester. Don't they think that if they stay away from the east coast trade show because "IGN is no longer investing in New York", there might be a significant number of people on the east coast who decide not to invest in Apple? Especially after Boston lobbied hard [boston.com] to bring the trade show back, this is definitely a slap in the face. Apple deciding to take their ball and go home just doesn't make any sense.

Re:Can they afford to do this? (2)

Cyclopedian (163375) | about 12 years ago | (#4472314)

I agree. I think this is childish on part of Jobs et al. They need to consider the business ramifications of this decision.

If they didn't, I want some of what they're smoking, it distorts *THEIR* reality.

-Cyc

Re:Can they afford to do this? (5, Funny)

Ed Avis (5917) | about 12 years ago | (#4472371)

It doesn't matter, people who don't like Apple's attitude can just switch to alternative suppliers of Macintoshes and buy OS X from someone else.

Re:Can they afford to do this? (1)

Perl-Pusher (555592) | about 12 years ago | (#4472438)

No they buy PC's. That is why apple's userbase has been getting smaller every year. At onetime they had 10 - 15% of the total desktop & corporate users. Now it's something like 3.5%.

Re:Can they afford to do this? (1)

herc_mk2 (586993) | about 12 years ago | (#4472624)

No they buy PC's. That is why apple's userbase has been getting smaller every year.
err, I think that was the point of the original post:
It doesn't matter, people who don't like Apple's attitude can just switch to alternative suppliers of Macintoshes and buy OS X from someone else.
He must have forgotton to say THIS IS SARCASM so people wouldn't get confused.

Re:Can they afford to do this? (5, Interesting)

dubiousmike (558126) | about 12 years ago | (#4472328)

Well, my take on it is that perhaps Apple needs to keep spending money on their "Switch" campaign which seems largely targeted toward newbies.

Newbies don't go to MacWorld (generally speaking) or any other trade show for that matter.

This paralells your link that Apple isn't doing so well.

Re:Can they afford to do this? (0, Troll)

guidobot (526671) | about 12 years ago | (#4472596)

That's possible. I was under the impression that Apple had changed their strategy from recruting newbies to soaking their existing customers for whatever they could get (Like when they announced they were charging $129 for the OS X 10.1 update).

Maybe they gave up on that and are going back to recruiting. I guess that's the whole gist of the Switch campaign in the first place. But they shouldn't ignore their customer base (ie, not show up at MacWorld). Apple obviously has some of the most loyal support there is, but I still think its a mistake to fight too hard against that support just because they don't like where the supporters are gathering.

Re:Can they afford to do this? (5, Insightful)

Nomad7674 (453223) | about 12 years ago | (#4472531)

I am not sure this is really what everyone is saying it is about. It is easy to forget, but New York City was the site of the 9/11 attacks. Every movement of a major trade show, event, concert, etc. is going to be noted, criticized, and pushed through the New York Press which is read by the majority of the world. Since obviously the New York Press would be against a major trade show like MacWorld moving out of New York, it would likely cause a lot of bad press for Apple. And it is a lot easier for Apple to simply not rock the boat right now. I suspect that if IDG had waited another year before making the announcement, Apple would have been a lot more open to it. Right now, they don't want any bad press, if they can avoid it.

My two cents.

Macworld (4, Funny)

mojowantshappy (605815) | about 12 years ago | (#4472271)

Haha, what is a MacWorld without Apple exactly? I like how Apple is "important partner for Macworld". Maybe because they make the Macs?

Re:Macworld (1)

Faggot (614416) | about 12 years ago | (#4472349)

I went to MacWorld this year, in NYC. I was so excited to be able to attend for the first time.

Bullshit. No vendors were giving anything away (I think I saw some free peace-sign pins. oooooh.), the best product announcement Apple could muster was adding two diagonal inches to the iMac LCD, and all the interesting stuff (talks, etc) cost way too much money. The best part was going to a #mfz buddy's apartment in Manhattan and smoking Manhattan kind bud for the rest of the day.

Apple plays no great part in the whole thing, and if you ask me it's a waste of time anyhow.

In other news... (5, Funny)

CySurflex (564206) | about 12 years ago | (#4472272)

Sony announced that it wont be participating in E3 because it's not in Japan.

Sour Apple (2)

Anenga (529854) | about 12 years ago | (#4472276)

Aww. I'm sure if their comments are needed they can dropdown a huge HD Screen and connect to them. "Were sorry, but Apple couldn't be here tonight. Anyways, thanks for the award and the such. Were here working on our next build of OSX, and couldn't make it! Sorry. Toodles.".

Perhaps they will go to the NY show, but be fashionably late.

Are they insane? (5, Insightful)

Latent IT (121513) | about 12 years ago | (#4472277)

From the article:

Following Apple's statement, an IDG World Expo representative said the company had no indication from Apple that the Mac maker would pull out of the show if it was moved to Boston.

Seriously, when you're doing *MAC*World, and making a major change, you'd think they'd ask Apple what they thought.

Re:Are they insane? (4, Informative)

guidobot (526671) | about 12 years ago | (#4472325)

Apple never mentioned anything about this [com.com] until after the deal was made. They knew all along it was happening, and the rumors were flying around weeks ago. "Apple remains an important partner for Macworld and IDG World Expo has been in discussions with Apple officials for some time about the move back to Boston," the representative said. "Since we just heard of Apple's position, we can only speculate about their reasons, which may be driven by their financial situation."

Is it still Macworld? (2, Insightful)

DRnetman86 (617230) | about 12 years ago | (#4472287)

If Apple pulls out, there will still be a draw, but it will be so greatly diminished. IDG will have a hard time breaking even without all the people who would have initially come if Apple were there. There goes the free publicity/great PR/chance to get feedback from the maccies. Fairly ignorant decision on Apple's part.

What? (0, Offtopic)

nial-in-a-box (588883) | about 12 years ago | (#4472288)

Huh?

Re:What? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4472329)

RTFA

Re:What? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4472341)

well, yea, but that's the point :)

Uhh.. communication? Hello? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4472289)

Couldn't apple and macworld have communicated about this, like, a little earlier?

Macworld must realize that the only people go to the macworld expos anymore is that apple's gotten into the habit of practically never announcing new hardware or operating system upgrades except at macworld expos. Macworld probably should have somehow figured out before now that apple was going to leave if they moved to boston, or at least apple should have piped up a bit earlier to macworld about their unwillingness to work with Boston. Someone, somewhere, wasn't thinking very clearly. Who's going to want to go to the macworld expo if Apple isn't there? Will anyone? Especially if it's in Boston. ^_^

(Just checking: where are hotels more expensive, Boston or NY?)

wow (1)

spectatorion (209877) | about 12 years ago | (#4472294)

MacWorld without Apple just wouldn't be as "insanely great."

Seriously, IDG should have negotiated with Apple in advance (if they didn't in fact do that) because MacWorld without Apple is pointless.

The biggest press that the show gets is the keynote (Steve Job's keynote, that is). I can't think of anything that would even come close to replacing this.

Whatever Apple's reasons for not participating, as long as not participating in MacWorld doesn't mean not putting out new products, all will be well...

no G5s or PPC 750s, then (5, Interesting)

Faggot (614416) | about 12 years ago | (#4472299)

If Apple won't be at MW2004, then we can safely assume that no new PPCs [slashdot.org] will be showing up in the Apple lineup. Because if they were, Steve Jobs would NOT BE ABLE TO RESIST announcing it there.

I wouldn't be surprised if Apple were trying to break from the pattern of announcing all their new shit at conferences (MW, SIGGRAPH, etc). That leads to too much speculation.

Re:no G5s or PPC 750s, then (5, Insightful)

jgalun (8930) | about 12 years ago | (#4472444)

I think you're exactly right. I think this decision is based on a couple factors that have nothing to do with the move from New York to Boston:

Apple has very little in the way of new products to announce for a while. Sure, there will be a PowerBook revamp soon, but let's face it, until a new PowerPC chip comes out, Apple basically has nothing that exciting to introduce. Sure, there'll be a new iApp or two, maybe some bigger monitors, or minor speed increases in existing lines, but that's hardly a very big deal.

People make such a big deal out of keynotes since Jobs came back that when there isn't anything big to introduce, there is a decent amount of bitterness in the Mac community. Jobs does not want to be in the position of creating bitterness by giving more keynotes with nothing to introduce.

Jobs has been trying to break the connection of product announcements with keynote speeches anyway. When everyone expects there to be big introductions at the keynote, people stop buying Macs before the keynotes, in case a product line is refreshed. This makes it hard for Apple to clear out inventory - why buy an iMac in June if you think a new one will be introduced in July?

MacWorld shows may no longer be as important as they used to be, anyway. Most hard-core Mac users - the kind who would pay for a ticket to the keynote, or pay to travel to New York/Boston - have Internet access and read MacCentral, MacRumors, etc. So it's not like Apple needs the convention to reach these people. Besides, this audience is basically loyal to Apple regardless of what Apple does. On the other hand, Apple does want very badly to attract new users - the switchers. The money spent attending MacWorlds may be better spent on more TV ads targetting PC users.

Big Apple vs Bean Town (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4472302)

If you don't find the humor in this in the context of Mac's then you're just a little too dense.

communication breakdown... (2, Funny)

jaredcoleman (616268) | about 12 years ago | (#4472310)

Think Apple would mind if they moved the west coast event to Redmond?

Real mature. (1)

MortisUmbra (569191) | about 12 years ago | (#4472315)

How shocking that I would read something like this....sometime I question the maturity of the Apple execs (not the least of whom being Steve Jobs).

Oh well, Apples loss, it's a shame Bostonites have to suffer a bit because of it though.

Re:Real mature. (2)

Archangel Michael (180766) | about 12 years ago | (#4472526)

Perhaps being mature in your mind is bending over backwards while being screwed.

Apple likes the tradition of having MacWorld in the .......... BIG APPLE?

Moving it to Boston is only better for the promoters, not Apple. Why SHOULD Apple agree to that? Just to be "Mature".

Slump (4, Insightful)

dolo666 (195584) | about 12 years ago | (#4472320)

Maybe they are refusing to participate to save money?
MacWorld [macworld.com] reports:
The slump in the high-tech industry hit home as Apple announced a $45 million loss for the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2002.

Re:Slump (1)

BethLogic (561055) | about 12 years ago | (#4472536)

But going to Boston will save them money (assuming they don't all live in NYC). Hotels are cheaper, restaurants are cheaper, heck, even the public transportation is cheaper!

NYC is cool and all, but Boston is just an awesome city. They don't know what they will be missing.

Product release schedules (5, Insightful)

stevenprentice (202455) | about 12 years ago | (#4472335)

Apple has always fought with sales droughts before MacWorld shows. People anticipate new products and don't want to buy the current products until they know what's coming.

By only participating in one MacWorld per year they alliviate some of these problems.

I am not saying that I think Apple will go to a year long product release cycle, I just think they are actively fighting the pre-MacWorld sales problem. I also think Apple will continue with the recent trend of releasing more and more products out of the MacWorld cycle.

Re:Product release schedules (2)

dubiousmike (558126) | about 12 years ago | (#4472404)

Um, yeah...

but its called MACWORLD!

Re:Product release schedules (2)

zaren (204877) | about 12 years ago | (#4472461)

One MacWorld per year?

You mean they're also cancelling MacWorld Tokyo? And what about the Apple Expo in Paris, does that count?

So this sucks (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4472339)

After considering that after 24 years my next purchase might be a mac and then hearing that MacWorld was coming to Boston I was sold. Now I don't know, I mean if I can't hop on the T and take my brand spankin new mac laptop to MacWorld to show it off... what's the point?


Dude! I'm getting a Dell!

um? (0, Flamebait)

sn0wman3030 (618319) | about 12 years ago | (#4472352)

Um, i'm sure a lot of others are thinking this too: what other companies even support apple? Except for moterola and ibm, they haven't got much, and they're not even going to show up for thier own event. dude. wtf? So if they're not going, who is?

No SteveNote? (0, Offtopic)

Hawthorne01 (575586) | about 12 years ago | (#4472357)

/me begins to feel the ominous signs of withdrawl symptoms....

One would think Apple would prefer a cheaper venue (2, Interesting)

Chastitina (253566) | about 12 years ago | (#4472358)

Given the current state of the industry - and Apple's situation in general - one would think any move that would cut the costs of hosting and attending a trade convention would be appreciated. Perhaps they dislike leaving the Big Apple for symbolic reasons?

No wonder Apple's marketshare sucks (1)

el_mex (175423) | about 12 years ago | (#4472360)

And you guys think MS press faux pas was bad?

How will Apple stay alive if it's self righteous about attending a conference centered around its won products???

Re:No wonder Apple's marketshare sucks (2)

brain159 (113897) | about 12 years ago | (#4472608)

Some might say that microsoft's faux press is a bigger problem right now... :o)

Ironic, isn't it? (5, Funny)

jinx90277 (517785) | about 12 years ago | (#4472369)

According to their ad slogans, they want everyone to change...is it so hard to expect the same from management?

Boo-freakin'-hoo (3, Insightful)

pla (258480) | about 12 years ago | (#4472370)

It moved a whole 2-hour drive away (and I doubt most attendees would drive anyway), and they pull a prima-donna hissy fit?

Damn.

Apple - Grow up. You have an immensely loyal user base, yet treat them like dirt. You abuse the community that gives you free development, you actively squash fan-motivated derivative works, you charge 2-3x as much as for comparable intel-based hardware, you engage in disgusting political maneuverings to squash (or obviate) bad press and speculation... Basically, you act just like Micro$oft, except lack the monopoly to pull it off.

Then you wonder why, with what I think most people would agree counts as a far superior OS to Windows, you have such a pitiful share of the desktop market.

Free clue - reward loyaly, ignore bad press (unless it deals with security issues, one of MS's bigger mistakes), and don't throw a tantrum whenever things don't go 100% your way. Oh, and try selling your hardware for reasonably competitive prices.

Re:Boo-freakin'-hoo (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4472484)

dude, mad props if you can drive from NYC to Boston in 2 hours.

Re:Boo-freakin'-hoo (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4472614)

Heh, well, okay, "just outside" each in 2h... Let's say the NY border to Brookline. I didn't count the hell of actually getting around inside either city. ;-)

Re:Boo-freakin'-hoo (2)

igaborf (69869) | about 12 years ago | (#4472640)

It moved a whole 2-hour drive away...

Yeah, if you average about 110 mph and don't take any piss breaks.

That's odd... (1)

SexyKellyOsbourne (606860) | about 12 years ago | (#4472375)

Government waste and corporate welfare used to attract expos, Olympics, and other events usually works.

Why would Apple back out of such a thing? Is it a statement of opposition to corporate welfare being used to change cities, or do they just think Boston is a lousy city?

Boston truly is a really nice place, though, as long as you don't walk into any bars with a clover on it and such.

Wow... is Apple abandoning the MAC? (2)

gamorck (151734) | about 12 years ago | (#4472381)

I mean you've got to wonder what exactly the point of having a MacWorld is if Apple doesn't plan on showing up. Yeah their are lots of 3rd party vendors with cute gadgets and software but with the Steve Jobs keynote I think alot less people are going to care...

Yeah yeah yeah I realize that other people may not feel the same way - but I think that alot of this is due to Apple's strangehold on the desktop PowerPC platform. I mean if Apple isn't going to be announcing anything is there a point to even having the show? Because the bottom line is that without Apple's involvement nothing else done on the Mac really matters...

J

Boston not their key demographic (5, Funny)

ohboy-sleep (601567) | about 12 years ago | (#4472382)

Apple, in their neverending effort to corner the education market, decided to skip this years Macworld stating "Boston isn't much of a college town".

Re:Boston not their key demographic (5, Funny)

dubiousmike (558126) | about 12 years ago | (#4472601)

Sweet Spinal Tap [spinaltap.com] reference!

Somebody mod parent post to 6

Big "Dig" Apple.... (1)

bsdparasite (569618) | about 12 years ago | (#4472394)

It's a trade show designed to make money for Apple! How do they care where it is?? Just cut the crap already. As a company trying to gain market share, I would just attend all the trade shows that I can.

WTF? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4472398)

MacWorld without Apple is pointless. Pointless I say! Much like this post.

Maybe they'll get Steve Balmer to do the keynote in Steve Jobs' place. And they can call it MacWorld.NET. Yeah, thats what'll happen. That also would be pointless though.

Re:WTF? (1)

DesScorp (410532) | about 12 years ago | (#4472487)

Not as pointless as Balmer dancing around going "Developers Developers Developers are Insanely Great!"

Special Guest Host (3, Funny)

dubiousmike (558126) | about 12 years ago | (#4472440)

Welcome to MacWorld.

Tonight, appearing in place of MacWorld is....

Commedian Carrot Top.

Switch (1)

peel (242881) | about 12 years ago | (#4472447)

This does not bode well for the switch campaign.
-peel

bye bye 5% (1)

Sebby (238625) | about 12 years ago | (#4472456)

if Apple doesn't attend the biggest shows for their own products, how do they expect consumers to take them seriously?

RE: MacWorld Conference (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4472466)

I will not be at the MacWorld Conference either...

Secret grudge against Boston? (3, Funny)

Mark Gordon (14545) | about 12 years ago | (#4472467)

What, is Steve Jobs a Yankees fan or something?

Re:Secret grudge against Boston? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4472572)

the red socks suck. yanks rule.

all your base belongs to us.

And your suprised? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4472476)

with all the retaraded lamers their this is no suprise.

Re:And your suprised? (1)

dubstop (136484) | about 12 years ago | (#4472617)

And your suprised ?

with all the retaraded lamers their this is no suprise

Aah, irony.

This actually makes sense (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4472480)

Steve Jobs is just doing his best to project a message of "no economic recovery in sight", so he can help get all of his homosexual, democrat politician-friends elected.

What the hell? (5, Insightful)

Andy Dodd (701) | about 12 years ago | (#4472488)

So the convention is held in a different city.

*WHY* is Apple having such an immature hissy-fit.

Let's see, valid reasons for Boston:
Apparently, tradition. Until 1998, Boston is where MW Expo was held for 12 years in a row
Cost - Boston has offered some pretty serious discounts on the cost of renting their convention center for this show

Valid reasons for disliking a move to Boston:
None that I can think of. Apple hasn't given a *SINGLE* reason for their desire to stay in New York.

If Apple was based in the NYC area, I could understand it... But once you're crossing from the West Coast to the East Coast, who cares if you're going 200 or so extra miles? The difference in travel cost is negligible, especially considering the cost of actually hosting the show will apparently be far less in Boston.

I'm forced to agree with the guy who got marked down to -1 Flamebait for making the comment about Steve Jobs and a baby bottle. This decision by Apple is stupid, immature, and nonsensical (especially given Apple's financial state...)

Who can blame them? (2)

sssmashy (612587) | about 12 years ago | (#4472507)

You can't take MacWorld out of the "Big Apple". It just doesn't fit.

Control freak = Apple (3, Interesting)

ACK!! (10229) | about 12 years ago | (#4472509)

Listen, I think that the Mac OS X and the current set of Macs look real darn tempting right now if I were looking at a new system, software the whole shebang as it were.

However, people need to realize that Apple is not the benign underdog against the Microsoft Evil Empire. Apple as a company is very control centered. It keeps close control over the hardware, OS, software devel for the platform as well as user experience. In some ways this makes for a much smoother overall computing experience for the users. In some other ways, it is do it the apple way or hit the highway for a Dell or whatever.

This is just another example of this corporations obsession with controling every aspect of everything having do in any way with its products.

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Apple Apologists (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4472513)

I can't wait to see the Apple Apologists come out and defend Apple's decision. Mac fanatics are a lot of fun to talk to. They remind me of the old ladies who believe in John Edwards. I can point out a hundred times how he is wrong way more than he is right and that cold reading is a scam as old as time but they still believe that he is real.

For a look at this year's MacWorld (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4472517)

Look at last years coverage of PC trade shows.

In other news... (1)

DjMd (541962) | about 12 years ago | (#4472548)

Microsoft stated that they will also not be attending Macworld, or any other conferences.
As one "not-employed-by-microsoft-random" man on the street said "Windows XP(c) is so great I don't have to go, and neither does my parent^H^H^H^H^H^H^H non-affiated company, Mircosoft (tm) (r)."

See the story Here [slashdot.org]

Re:In other news... (1)

khuber (5664) | about 12 years ago | (#4472644)

Microsoft goes to MacWorld. Apple users are just more customers.

-Kevin

I don't get it... (4, Interesting)

Tim Browse (9263) | about 12 years ago | (#4472556)

Ok, I live in the UK, and I seem to be missing something - I don't understand the reasoning behind this - could some Americans fill me in?

Apple HQ is in Cupertino which is already pretty far from NYC, I thought. Now MacWorld's going to be in Boston instead. A brief consultation of my Atlas reveals this is not significantly farther away from Cupertino. I can't imagine the geography is a problem - so what is the problem?

Is it just that NYC is 'cooler' than Boston? I saw how excited Jobs was to announce the Apple Store opening in NYC - is this coolness really the only reason? Is Boston a run-down dump? Is it hard to fly to? Is it a logistics nightmare? Do Apple have a big office in NYC, but not in Boston?

Or is it just an excuse for Apple to not go to the east coast MacWorld because they need to save money?

Just curious...

Tim

Hawaii (2, Funny)

FaasNat (522755) | about 12 years ago | (#4472562)

Too bad IDG is not moving it to Hawaii. Now I would love to see MacWorld Honolulu!

Apple (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4472578)

Big huge freaking deal! Apple is rotten to the corps. Let them lose like they usually do!

Why Have MacWorld? (2, Insightful)

captpiett1 (7076) | about 12 years ago | (#4472580)

MacWorld was way cool back when I was in college, we went every year, it was a blast. But that was 1992. Now we have the "internet" and MacWorld is pretty muh useless except for the KeyNote product release movie. Fuck it, just broadcast a Quicktime movie of Jobs and let people download the same demos they would get at the show. Hell from what I hear nobody even gives out free t shirts anymore. Why bother?

RDF. (1)

DAldredge (2353) | about 12 years ago | (#4472588)

And Steve Jobs RDF strikes again.

big apple (2, Funny)

chimpo13 (471212) | about 12 years ago | (#4472620)

So I'm looking through waiting for the Big Apple puns, and I don't see any. Get to work, you guys.

What about intellectual property laws? qjkx (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4472637)

Ban all intellectual property laws! They are causing this. Mac had to move because the signs were copyright in New York. Ban all intellectual property laws. All /.ers agree.

Apple's Choice (4, Interesting)

FugiMax (181273) | about 12 years ago | (#4472642)

Not sure why everyone is pissed at Apple about this...it's their *right* to participate in any or no trade events. And before you scream about abandoning the east coast...how do you know Apple won't just do their OWN show in NY or get another promoter to do the show?
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