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Visiting the World, as a Geek?

Cliff posted about 12 years ago | from the globe-trotting dept.

Education 695

Han Onymous asks: "In nine months my contract as a research assistent at my Alma Mater will come to an end. It will not be renewed, I don't want it to be anyway. But outside the economy is too ill to welcome me. I am young. I am healthy. And I want to see the world before I've got the wife and the kids and the double mortgage. I have no money saved, and I don't plan to save some until then. What can a skillful geek (electrical, electronical and software engineer, speaks three languages fluently) like me do to see the world. Volunteer ? Working for a multinational with exchange programs? Something with no connection at all to the tech world? Please share your experience."

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First post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4473852)

Fecal Troll Matter is my friend.

Re:First post (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4473981)

get a real job, and stop fucking around, fuckwit!

Peace Corp (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4473861)

Join the peace corps [peacecorps.gov] .

Re:Peace Corp (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4473905)

NO! Peace Corps is for suckers who need something to do. Do yourself a favor and find something worthwhile like the Red Cross.

Peace Corps (4, Insightful)

Sean Clifford (322444) | about 12 years ago | (#4473866)

You may do well to check out the Peace Corps - especially with your language skills. *NOW* is the time for you to travel about and see the world; if you put it off you probably won't get around to it until retirement.

Re:Peace Corps (2, Insightful)

Latent IT (121513) | about 12 years ago | (#4473923)

I'm sure I'll get a -1 (Flamebait & Troll) but *NOW* is just so very much not the time to see the world.

I'm probably being very cynical, but things are just bad right now, in quite a lot of places.

Re:Peace Corps (1)

chris_mahan (256577) | about 12 years ago | (#4473971)

Unless you happen to have a non-us and non european passport. If you are egyptian, chinese, or ukrainian, you can probably travel safely.

(I had to think about this list pretty hard, I guess that proves your point)
(also, don't travel to the US on your egyptian, chinese, or ukrainian passport, the hassle won't be worth it)

Re:Peace Corps (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4474031)

I might agree, but on the other hand the world needs more people who have experiences doing stuff for others.

Besides, let fear govern you now and it always will. I grew up in the international sphere; my family were volunteers in PNG. There were hardships and my father was almost killed by thieves (took a machete to the hand, though).

The world is a dangerous place. I reckon it's better to live your life well full of grand experiences, than to cower at home where it's safe (only to die from a stupid drunk driver).

Yes, you are being cynical (5, Insightful)

kvn299 (472563) | about 12 years ago | (#4474071)

I served in the Peace Corps in the mid-90s. Although I do admit these are extraordinarily dangerous times, there were plenty of dangers in the world during that time as well. In addition, I recently spent two years traveling all over kingdom come. There were lots of dangers, but what I gained by traveling far outweighed the risks involved.

Upon returning home to the US after Peace Corps, I never felt more unsafe in my entire life. In Cameroon, my host country, my neighbors looked out for me. If something bad was going to happen it would most likely be someone pointing a gun at me and taking my money. If you did what was asked, then you were OK. They weren't doing it for kicks.

In the US, my chances of dying in a car crash were much higher compared to the chances of that happening in Cameroon. Or someone might break into my house and shoot me just for the hell of it... etc. etc. Have you been reading the papers lately???

These times *are* dangerous. But you shouldn't let fear prevent you from experiencing everything the world has to offer. A little common sense during travel goes A LONG LONG WAY in increasing your safety.

Go live and stop hiding in your house.

Re:Peace Corps (5, Interesting)

imr (106517) | about 12 years ago | (#4474086)

Just yesterday i was saying to my wife:
"I'm so glad I could travel around the wrld when I was younger. It looks like 20 years old people won't be able o do it before long."
On the other hand, my wife had to flee her country as a child because of another country politics deciding people like her parents(artists) needed to be persecuted. So she told me that she would have loved to stay at home to discover her own land.
This I also did. Travel through my country by bike. It's so different from being a tourist. People get in touch with you because they see you take the time to actually meet them.

Traveling the world as a geek, cheap style (5, Funny)

Telastyn (206146) | about 12 years ago | (#4473867)

/server irc.dalnet.net /join #france /join #japan /join #katmandu
.
.
.

Re:Traveling the world as a geek, cheap style (4, Funny)

beta21 (88000) | about 12 years ago | (#4473921)

Or boot up Everquest. There are lot of places to see there.

And you can meet "interesting" people and learn how to make gizillions of pp, then you never have to worry about a double mortgage....ohoh I've got reality and fantasy mixed up again haven't I?

Re:Traveling the world as a geek, cheap style (2, Funny)

Lenolium (110977) | about 12 years ago | (#4473996)

Oh joy, then I can learn what A/S/L? is in three different languages.
Although, I do kindof wonder if the smilies are the same.

FIRST POST!!@ (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4473868)

FIRST POST!!

Visa... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4473871)

It's everywhere you want to be...

Yeah i tell you what you can do. (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4473874)

Join a terrorist network, they seem to be just about everywhere nowadays, and they pay for everything you need.

Travel? To where? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4473876)

Why go anywhere? The US is too busy blowing up the rest of the world. Better yet, stay indoors and watch the world get blown up on tv. And forget 2 of the 3 languages that you learned. ;)

~j

Have fun! (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4473878)

Here's a good place to start looking: JobsAbroad.com [jobsabroad.com] (No, I don't work for them)

Re:Have fun! (1)

adamshamblin (524400) | about 12 years ago | (#4474082)

... or maybe here [subway.com] .

Well... (2, Informative)

GMontag (42283) | about 12 years ago | (#4473880)

See this story [slashdot.org] and enlist ;-)

NMCI (1)

NitsujTPU (19263) | about 12 years ago | (#4473900)

The NMCI is contractor supported. Enlisting won't get you a job working on it.

Uhhh.. I know... (-1, Offtopic)

GETerry (518033) | about 12 years ago | (#4473881)

Join the army, go blow shit up in IRAQ!

Re:Uhhh.. I know... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4473926)

Join the Army. Meet interesting people. Kill them.

Re:Uhhh.. I know... (0)

GETerry (518033) | about 12 years ago | (#4473935)

What's not geeky about blowing shit up?

Besides, he might have some pent up frustration from being in school so damn long...

Use your knowledge for evil (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4473884)

There's always room in the economy for that.
Take over the world!

GeekCorps, teaching ESL (5, Informative)

Brento (26177) | about 12 years ago | (#4473888)

The first obvious answer everybody's going to suggest is GeekCorps [geekcorps.org] , but it'll also depend on the languages you speak. I'd suggest looking at job postings for large international charitable organizations like the Red Cross - they always need tech help, and being willing to work as a volunteer for room & board only will help your case quite a bit.

Another tip: think about teaching English in the Far East. The job offers are plentiful, you don't need a teaching certificate, and the compensation is quite good. You don't have to speak Japanese or Chinese to get those kinds of positions, either. I've had a few friends do it for several summers, and had nothing but great things to say.

No thanks... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4473889)

Visiting the world as a geek? You mean other than sitting on the internet? I wouldnt hear of it!

you should.... (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4473891)

NOW is the time to go into pr0n!

spelling (-1, Troll)

MikeAR303 (578117) | about 12 years ago | (#4473895)

I can't help but notice the large number of spelling and grammar errors in almost every "ask slashdot" post. Just had to get that off my mind.

Teach English (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4473896)

Pays fairly well - can be done in lots of different places, etc.

Not necessarily the best job (a friend of mine had a nasty experience in S. Korea, all that stuff you hear about southeast asian kids having huge amounts of respect for their teacher is absolute CRAP) but its something to do to foot the bill for travelling. Usually they expect someone with a BA, but a BEng/BSC/MSc / whatever you've got should be fine (another friend of mine is teaching English in Japan right now - and I met a Scotsman on a train from Prague to Frankfurt who was teaching english in Germany)...

Helps to bone up on your grammar though, but for a trilingual like yourself, that shouldn't be a problem.

Good luck!

Re:Teach English (3, Informative)

EldritchGeek (618395) | about 12 years ago | (#4473980)

I strongly agree. The good thing about teaching English is that it can be much easier to land this kind of work. Some places it pays well, others it doesn't, but it is an industry where there will be a strong preference for native speakers. Also, visa issues are more easily resolved than if you're trying to do tech work.

I taught English in Taiwan for a year, loved it, and eventually found additional bits of work that drew more on my tech background. By the way, I did find a lot of respect for teachers, but most of my students were adults.

Visit Bali (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4473901)

It is really cheap at the moment.

Re:Visit Bali (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4474012)

har har har, this is fucking funny! mod this up! fuck, I'm laughing so hard!!

Like the knight said: "Choose Wisely..." (5, Insightful)

gregwbrooks (512319) | about 12 years ago | (#4473904)

The best advice I can give: Choose where you go and what you do based on your values rather than your skills.

All things being equal, you'll put more into -- and get more out of -- an experience where you're supporting something you really believe in, even if you're not using all of your technical skills. If you can scratch both your geek itch and your volunteer itch at the same time, great -- but if you're only going to scratch one, strike a blow for something you feel passionately about.

Mother Earth, Mother Board is a good read (5, Interesting)

JeffGB (265543) | about 12 years ago | (#4473906)

The Wired Magazine article Mother Earth, Mother board [wired.com] is an article written by a hacker/tourist.
I've always liked reading this article, and it lists neat places to visit

Re:Mother Earth, Mother Board is a good read (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4474069)

The hacker/tourist who wrote the article is also an author. He is Neal Stephenson, and I suspect that his name is pretty familiar with the Slashdot set.

Having said that, I agree completely. Mother Earth, Mother board is excellent, and I recommend that all geeks with wanderlust read it.

How to see the world... (5, Funny)

surfcow (169572) | about 12 years ago | (#4473912)

... accept a job where "very little travel is involved".

That did it for me.

aloha,
=brian

Armed Forces (4, Insightful)

chunkwhite86 (593696) | about 12 years ago | (#4473915)

Try the Army, Navy or Air Force. I have many friends who are part of the US Armed Services and have traveled the World quite extensively in just a few short years.

Re:Armed Forces (5, Interesting)

bomb_number_20 (168641) | about 12 years ago | (#4474054)

I spent three years in the military. I was gone a lot (approximately 5-6 months out of the year) but rarely saw anything more than swamps, mountains, wooded areas and jungles.

There were some really cool things. My favorite was looking at stuff through night-vision goggles- especially the stars. Animals were cool,too- it was sort of like they knew you weren't really a threat because you can't see in the dark so they come out all around you. Another fun thing that you get to do in the army is board and ride passenger jets with automatic weapons. ;)

Anyway, if you want to see the world (that is, cities and local people) without having to kill and bomb everything you meet then the army (or any military service for that matter) is the wrong choice. The Air Force might be better, but from friends I've talked to, if you REALLY want to get out and go places the Navy can't be beat.

Those guys go from one end of the globe to the other and get free time to wander around and explore- something we really didn't.

I'm guessing, though, that military service isn't what this guy is looking for.

Re:Armed Forces (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4474055)

Ahh yes, the Military option: Where you get to visit many different places with lots of interesting people and you can kill them without going to jail!

The real question is ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4473916)

... What is a lazy "geek" like you with skills unusable in the market place want to do other then go and join the marines? I mean really, you could see so many places and actually do something "usefull" ...

lots of ways to volunteer (1)

NixterAg (198468) | about 12 years ago | (#4473918)

There are lots of ways to volunteer and get to travel much of the world for free/cheap. You can try the Peace Corps, or maybe try volunteering at the Red Cross. There are a number of foreign aid agencies that you might look at. Are you religious? Most faiths have organized means to send you to do mission work (where you could even use your skills).

If all else fails you can always join the military. :)

Try This: (5, Informative)

Geminatron (616988) | about 12 years ago | (#4473919)

You're looking for "Engineers Without Borders":
here a few of their addresses:

http://ewob.colorado.edu
EWOB USA

http://www.ewb-isf.org
EWB CANADA

http://www.isf-france.org
EWB France = Ingénieurs sans Frontières (ISF)

There are lots of other local and national EWB groups, a google search should find em.

Well... (5, Funny)

NanoGator (522640) | about 12 years ago | (#4473922)

..you could join the Army and visit the Middle East. Sunny skies, high tech environment, and the lucky winner can play a game of "Whack the Laden"!

*hopes that joke wasn't in too bad of taste, midly bad taste is acceptable*

NGO's that want geeks. (5, Informative)

kapurp (546708) | about 12 years ago | (#4473924)

Try geek corps [geekcorps.org] or Engineers without borders [ewb-isf.org] or if you're Canadian you can apply to Net Corps [netcorps-cyberjeunes.org] .

Slack (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4473929)

Get some credit cards and slack. I'm serious. As a highly educated geek, you can probably get 10-20k in unsecured credit by filling out some forms on a web site.

Then, choose some country that's cheap to live in and go. Asian countries give you the nice added bonus of being able to generate an income stream readily by illegally teaching English. For example, in Taiwan you can teach English for $25/hr and meals cost about $3 each.

As an added bonus, you may find in some foreign countries women find you irresistible. Which is not so bad.

Finally, when the economy recovers you will be making gobs of money and not have enough time to spend it efficiently. The memories will last forever.

lame (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4473931)

Does taco just make this crap up or are there really morons like this out there?

So you are an electrical and electronical engineer? that's just swell....

heh.

Options (4, Interesting)

geek (5680) | about 12 years ago | (#4473933)

Is it traveling you wish to do? Seeing the world is great but I get enjoyment out of seeing the immediate world around me.

I've had two friends join the peace corps, one loved it the other hated. like most things it's about perspective. I would love to see Ireland, England and many others but it's come to my attention I have neglected to view my own country, my own city even.

I was going to join the Navy but realized military life wasn't worth it to me. The peace corps are out because I need money. So lately I've been thinking about helping others at youth centers in my area. It seems to be much more rewarding, not just for myself but for the kids.

With your skills you could be a great asset to the children. Rather than travel the world and look at the pretty sites, perhaps consider sticking close to home and getting more involved with local programs. It almost seems safer now too considering the bomb in Bali.

Re:Options (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4474059)

Are we sending peace corps people to Ireland?

Articles on the topic (5, Informative)

Teribaen (531432) | about 12 years ago | (#4473937)

There's an ongoing series of articles at kuro5hin on this exact topic.

first part [kuro5hin.org] second part [kuro5hin.org]

Re:Articles on the topic (1)

Karamchand (607798) | about 12 years ago | (#4473984)

Please mod this up. It might be really helpful, specially since the discussions on k5 are usually very good.

(+2; Informative) (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4474064)

Virtua|Mod Version 0.0.1-2

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Feel free to M2-me by replying with a post with subject (M2: Unfair/Fair) and the body being (Virtua|M2 Version 0.0.1-2).

Obvious.. (3, Funny)

IamTheRealMike (537420) | about 12 years ago | (#4473939)

What can a skillful geek (electrical, electronical and software engineer, speaks three languages fluently) like me do to see the world

Teaching English is always good....... ;)

I don't know brother... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4473941)

...but you rock!!!

You're the only other person I know who's had the dream of doing nothing but traveling and seeing things. My system was to work for 3 years and live like a hermit saving everything so it's not particular useful for you...also I only toured N. America but I share the dream so good luck.

If only they'd pay me to do nothing life would be perfect...and I'd be an Unreal Tournament 2003 master. =)

Go Back to School (5, Interesting)

Lokni (531043) | about 12 years ago | (#4473943)

I would say go back to school. There are programs at various schools, including but not limited to state and private universities, that offer study abroad. Pick your country. I went to Spain this past summer for 2 months on a program to learn Spanish. That was it. Cost was $3600 including room and board and school. After the program was over I spent the next month hooving it around western Europe. With a month railpass, I was able to visit 12 different countries. Stay at hostels which are safe and offer clean, comfortable nightly accomodations for as little as $10 a night. Overall, the trip cost me about $6000. The best part of it was that I was able to get stafford loans to finance almost the entire trip. Nothing like a government gauranteed 3.4% interest loan that you don't have to pay back until you are not taking any more classes.

Travel, excitement, see the world, we even pay you (1)

Eol1 (208982) | about 12 years ago | (#4473949)

"I wanted to see exotic Vietnam, the jewel of Southeast Asia. I wanted to meet interesting and stimulating people of an ancient culture... and kill them."

-Full Metal Jacket

s/Vie.*ia\./so called terrorist country here/g

The military can show you the world you are missing :), get to travel and live for extended periods of time, they even PAY YOU ... be all you can be, a whore in every port, fly proud, etc etc

merchant marine (5, Insightful)

Shadow Wrought (586631) | about 12 years ago | (#4473950)

One of my Grandpa's buddies did an around the world tour by getting a cabin aboard a merchant marine ship.

It was super cheap and he got to spend a week or so in all sorts of different port towns. I have no idea whether it would interest you or not, but I contemplated doing it before I met my fiancee.

BTW, the guy who did this was 83!

So you don't necessarily have to do it while you are young;-)

Hibernate.... (1)

monadicIO (602882) | about 12 years ago | (#4473952)

... in this hiring freeze season.Just "bear" with the bad economy for 6 more months. (That's how far the recovery is at any given time). Anyway, I share your anxiety - being on the verge of graduation, I've nothing to do. Sadly, research has gone out of industry (even Bell lab is go(i)ng soon), and academia is just too much uncertainty. If nothing else, I'm just hoping to get a data entry operator working for cowboyneal.

Don't do tech (2, Insightful)

tmark (230091) | about 12 years ago | (#4473953)

You point out that you want to see the world before you are burdened down by the realities of life (i.e., wife, kids, mortgage, etc.). So why not go whole-hog and ditch the stuff that will likely dominate your life later on ?

There's plenty of time in life to work at a computer or do tech otherwise. Don't do it when you're young. It will get in the way.

Two Words (1)

macguiguru (608453) | about 12 years ago | (#4473954)

Leg Waxing.

Change your plans and save money! (5, Insightful)

Ichoran (106539) | about 12 years ago | (#4473955)

Money = flexibility. You have nine months. If flexibility and adventure are important to you, save some now. Whether you end up in the Peace Corps or whatever, it will help give you room to breathe.

Why the hell don't you have any money saved? (4, Informative)

Inoshiro (71693) | about 12 years ago | (#4473957)

An aside:
You're going to be old and infirm someday. Don't believe the lies that you'll actually be able to live off of your government pension (since it started as a senior-vote-buying measure, and will end when it runs out of money or leads to huge defecits once the boomers all retire), because you will be screwed. The first thing you should do is go and buy this book [bookzone.com] , then read it. Follow its advice.

Once you have a secure financial base, go ahead and explore the world, get married, etc. Do whatever your heart desires, but do not get started without some money saved away for your retirement, or you will be screwed when you're older.

Back to the question at hand:
If you really speak a variety of languages, see what it takes to get a work visa there. Often it's a lot of work, but it can be really fun to live somewhere for a year and do whatever it is you're skilled at doing (good non-tech ones are teaching english, cooking, bartending, etc). You can't just go to a country and work there legally unless you have a work visa, so be sure to get that squared away first.

Another thing to do would be to save up money, and backpack across Europe (or somewhere else that's population dense). It's fairly easy to do, there are plenty of youth hostels, and transportation between locales is cheap if you hitch-it. Heck, if you're feeling daring, you could even try to do it while carting along a small appliance [amazon.com] .

AIESEC (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4473959)

The worlds largest student organisation. AIESEC [aiesec.org] is a global network of 50,000 members across more than 83 countries and territories at more than 800 universities world-wide.
AIESEC facilitates international exchange of thousands of students and recent graduates each year. Whether in a paid traineeship or as a volunteer for a non-profit organisation, their experiences abroad will undoubtedly affect them forever.
Behind everything we do is our mission: to contribute to the development of our countries and their people with an overriding commitment to international understanding and co-operation.
Over the years AIESEC has evolved into something that is spirited with endless energy. We, the young people who run this organisation have a hope for something better in the world, and this is a hope that AIESEC tempers with a practical approach.

http://www.aiesec.org [aiesec.org]

What to do.. (5, Funny)

Maskirovka (255712) | about 12 years ago | (#4473961)

The choice should be clear...
1) learn to speak three lanuages fluently
2) become a tech god
3) leave school
4) set up your own international smut business
5) PROFIT!

Teach English (5, Insightful)

RealAlaskan (576404) | about 12 years ago | (#4473962)

If you LOOK american [1], you should be able to teach English in Taiwan. You could make a bit more than enough to live on, and living somewhere is far better than being a tourist there [2]. My inlaws have been trying to get me to do that, but I'm making significantly better money here. I suspect that you could do the same thing in Japan, and most of the Orient.

If you are looking for technical work which will further your career, things may be a little harder. I know that the big investment banks have operations around the world, and use lots of expensive IT, and lend people between countries at least occasionally. This is a bad time to be looking for that kind of job, though, and if you want to have a life, and see your surroundings, you don't want to work there.

[1] You don't have to BE a native English speaker, just look like one. If you look Chinese, you will have a hard time convincing the locals that you speak proper English, even if you grew up here and speak no Chinese!

[2]If you want to learn about the place, rather than simply see the sights and move on.

In the Navy? (1)

Torinaga-Sama (189890) | about 12 years ago | (#4473963)

I hear they are looking for a few good geeks.

You would get to travel, quite a bit.

Additionaly your job options on the other side of service would be pretty good, and really you can't beat 20 years of work for a lifetime of retirement pay.

THere is definately a lot of BS you have to put up with, but it's the same in the private sector.

If you find that against your grain, you could go with the Peace COrp. It seems that you would have the qualification to get into it. There isn't much money on it, but I would bet the work is rewarding.

be all that you can be... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4473965)

I'd say something insightful, but this is slashdot afterall, so no such thing. travel can be done, just takes will.

Join the Army! (3, Funny)

jheinen (82399) | about 12 years ago | (#4473969)

Join the Army. I'm sure you'll get an opportunity to visit the Middle East.

Soon.

Re:Join the Army! (1)

egad_man (532232) | about 12 years ago | (#4473998)

Hey, that's what I did. But I'm going to Germany, then Asia, then wherever.

Language is the key (5, Funny)

rholland356 (466635) | about 12 years ago | (#4473972)

If you want to see the world, earning your keep as you go, then you'll have to rely on your three fluent languages.

I hope they aren't too modern, for much of the world has yet to catch up. For instance, you might be fluent in Java 1.4, but that won't help you when you are in Perl territory.

I suppose you could travel a ways on COBOL--particularly through Europe--but I'd have to say it is C that will take you around the globe in good fashion.

Robert

electronical (1)

decep (137319) | about 12 years ago | (#4473973)

right...I guess you could be productful, too.

Two words (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4473974)

International Pornstar

Join up. (1)

DaveV1.0 (203135) | about 12 years ago | (#4473975)

Join up with the Peace Corp, Geek Corp, or even the Marine Corp. Of course if you really want to travel, join the Navy and see the world.

teach english (2, Interesting)

ephraim (192509) | about 12 years ago | (#4473978)

You could consider teaching English in another country. The following page gives one guy's view of teaching English while living in Bangkok.


http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/teaching.html

/EJS

religion (0)

Guipo (591513) | about 12 years ago | (#4473983)

become a mormon, convert the wicked, have 123413241235 wifes.

Go back to school... (2, Funny)

Atomic Frog (28268) | about 12 years ago | (#4473985)

Honestly. You may think you're skilled, but electrical+electronic+software guys are dime a dozen, even ones that speak 3 languages.

At least they are around here! Can you do physics and biology too? Can you play 3 different musical instruments, cook like a chef and also be near-top level athlete? Now you're talkin...

If you're so clever, go back to school for a graduate degree in something else, write some papers, go to conferences (in other parts of the world) with other people's funding.

Travelling on the cheap is nowhere near as fun as travelling in luxury, which you can do after you get a real job.

Or go teach English in Japan...

Provided you have no moral objection... (1)

stevenbdjr (539653) | about 12 years ago | (#4473987)

...then join the Navy [navy.com] . Get on a carrier and see the world. Who knows, you may even pickup a security clearance along the way (very valuable these days) and lose all those pounds you put on in college.

I can't believe this- (5, Insightful)

purduephotog (218304) | about 12 years ago | (#4473988)

- Hey, it's simple. Really. Book a flight overseas. Pick a return date. Figure out what to do once you get there and just DO stuff. There has GOT to be somet things you'd like to see- Eiffel Tower, Louver, Rome, etc- you know what you WANT to do, so go do it!

I did the same thing, disappeared for a month. Hooked up with total strangers for a couple of days. Drifted apart. Took pictures

No one can make a trip but you- and if it doesn't work out you'll have only your geeky self to blame rather than that 'stupid slashdot crowd'. Figure out what you want out of life and do it, or do you have absolutely no iniative?

Re:I can't believe this- (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4474074)

I have some interesting louvers on my heating ducts, you can view them anytime for $10.
But they're nothing compared to the Louvre.

something about this post says (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4473989)

FULL of SHIT.

Ask slashdots are always the most lame.

I can only speak in negatives... (5, Insightful)

I Am The Owl (531076) | about 12 years ago | (#4473993)

But don't do something tech-related. You have the rest of your life ahead of you to do that. Do something you've never done before and probably won't have another chance to. Several people here have suggested that you go to a foreign country and teach English; I concur with this sentiment. It seems like an excellent way to see the world.

All in all, it's not unlike college: do it because it's a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, not the beginning of the rest of your life.

free graduate school in japan (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4474007)

the japanese government paid me to get a masters in EE from a japanese university. everything was paid for, i had a blast living in tokyo, and came home with 5k in the bank. for more details check out the japanese embassy webpage (monbusho scholarship).

Go Spooky (5, Interesting)

Featureless (599963) | about 12 years ago | (#4474014)

I'll be blunt. My friend, you should consider joining the CIA. You fit their profile perfectly. As you can imagine, they are currently hiring with a vengance.

http://www.cia.gov/cia/employment/ciaeindex.htm

The experience is literally second to none in the world, and in a variety of private industries, CIA is solid gold on a resume.

-David

Oil Business (3, Interesting)

Lothar (9453) | about 12 years ago | (#4474015)

A friend of mine works as a Service Engineer(mostly software) in Kongsberg Offshore. He travels more than 100 days a year to places all over the world. Malaysia, Germany, Britain, etc, etc. You name it.

Of course you might not have that much time to do any sightseeing. However may places doesn't allow too much overtime abroad and that could be handy.

So many options (1)

sahmed (254826) | about 12 years ago | (#4474017)

I was just inspired. I'm quitting geekdom for the real world.

English Teaching (2, Interesting)

dracocat (554744) | about 12 years ago | (#4474021)

Luckily it appears you know the most desired language in the world--English. You can visit most any country in the world and survive on teaching English in schools or privately.

Be very carefull of these organizations sending you on free or reduced fare trips to foreign countries to teach English. You lose out on a great deal of flexability and money. They will control your schedule and take most of the money--providing you with only a "free" trip.

My advice is to pick a country, pack a backpack, buy an airplane ticket, buy a lonely planet guidebook, and just go. Once you are there and find a hostel to stay in, you will meet people that can help you with finding a job. You might also realize once you are there, and in the budget places that the little money you had saved up will actually survive quite a while.

Just go. Things will work themselves out once you are there. The hardest thing is picking a country or continent. I'm leaving for Southeast Asia next week if you need a place to start out!

first step (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4474023)

Stop being a lying ass would be the first step, then stop posting stupid questions to slashdot, then go get a fucking job like everyone else. You ain't special ok biatch.

assistent (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4474027)

assistent? [dictionary.com]

fucking christ, i didn't even go to college.

One word (0, Troll)

djupedal (584558) | about 12 years ago | (#4474030)

....Asia

Join The Armed Services (1)

bdr1 (249869) | about 12 years ago | (#4474034)

I felt the same way you did upon graduating, and the economy sucked twelve years ago too. I didn't want to join the Navy for personal reasons so I joined the Coast Guard.

Junior Officers have a lot of responsibility there, the job can get pretty technical and it is great training for the real world.

I did get to travel all over the world because I was willing to go to sea to do so.

Just think, you might even get to see Iraq!

er (2, Funny)

cpuenvy (544708) | about 12 years ago | (#4474035)

I'm sorry, I only know how to traverse the universe on thirty altirian dollars a day ;)

Join the Army Reserve (2, Troll)

dillon_rinker (17944) | about 12 years ago | (#4474038)

Travel to exciting distant lands. Meet exotic, interesting people. And kill them. (But only on weekends).

Easy... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4474040)

Become a con-artist unless you have morals that is. =)

Credit cards (1)

moby11 (537087) | about 12 years ago | (#4474042)

The only thing I ever put on credit cards that was worth the pain was a pre-family, pre-mortgage, pre-responsibily trip to Europe. Go, and then worry about how you are going to pay for it.

find a job..... (5, Interesting)

rew (6140) | about 12 years ago | (#4474046)

Even when the economy is bad, if you're good you're going to find a job. So, spin a globe, pick a place, and send a bunch of resumes in that direction. Make sure you "live cheap" so that you will be able to fall into a "work 6 months, travel 2 months" schedule, or something like that. Travel a bit around the "work" place as well. Then you should have enough saved to be able to say goodbye, and travel for two months straight. Then find a job again, preferably somewhere else. Repeat 2 or 3 times......

Roger.

Please... (1)

Bob Vila's Hammer (614758) | about 12 years ago | (#4474049)

Whatever you do, don't start mailing bombs.

Just go. (3, Informative)

GeoNerd (166345) | about 12 years ago | (#4474073)

Working as a bartender? A merchant marine? A volunteer? The Peace Corps? Bah. Forget it.
Just go.

Bartender/ski lift operator/au pair/whatever: Go to a fabulous country, have no time to do anything, and get paid next to nothing doing crap work!

Merchant Marines: Little known fact - today's modern container ships only take a few hours to offload - this means that ships spend as little time as possible in port. If you like taking weeks to get somehwere, and spending literally a few hours there, this is they way to go!

Peace Corps: Heh.

Volunteering: Well, you're VOLUNTEERING!

Bottom line is that many of these things are over-romanticized.

IMHO, the best thing to do is to get a backpack, put a change of clothes, a sleeping bag, a tent,
and a towel in it, buy a plane ticket to somewhere, and go.

I was in Turkey at a youth hostel once, and encountered a Dutch guy who was in the middle of a backpacking trip. He started of hitching in the netherlands, had gone through russia, mongolia, china, vietnam, thailand, india, pakistan, and iran, and had just gotten off of the train in eastern Turkey. He was washing washing his spare clothes - a change of underwear.

It doesn't take much money, and you can make a game of trying to find work to supplement your trip. A few thousand will keep you going for months if you're frugal, and you don't have anyone telling you what to do! If you don't like walking, and want to go fast, bring a bike.

Most of all, just have fun and enjoy the experience.

do it! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 12 years ago | (#4474088)

First, suggest you look at http://www.escapeartist.com/
For various information about how to be a temporary and perm expat, including job info for various countries.

Just general suggestions: You don't need to save much to travel well in many places these days. You could probably do south america on $5k for 6 months, relatively comfortably. Much of asia and the far east is also very cheap for westerners. In that regard its much easier to make travel money before you leave (in a country where you can legally work and can get a normal salary)rather than on the road. Some people find ways to make money while traveling..selling trinkets on the street, drawing portraits, "healing" ...
A good place to start a south america trip is Antigua in Guatemala where many people come to pick up some spanish at one of the over 40 spanish schools before heading off.

Other possibilities, join a marine outfit of some sort in a tech capacity, and go with them all over the world. I've met people who did that, from radio operators to navy seals.

My solution was to join a Phd program with good money and latitude. To every conference (national + international) I added a one to two week trip. Every summer went to a different summer school. You could also do some exchanges with researchers in other countries. Its also easy to disappear for periods of time as a grad student (assuming the right advisor). You could also do grad school in a foreign country.

The problem with traveling..is once you start doing it...its very hard to stop...
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