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Red Hat Nullifies Differences Between Bash, Csh

Hemos posted more than 11 years ago | from the funny-funny-haha dept.

It's funny.  Laugh. 521

Andreas(R) writes "Red Hat Software has revealed that future versions of the distribution will hide the differences between command-line user interfaces, creating a 'more unified shell prompt experience'. 'I don't mind if they rebrand and unify the GNOME and KDE interfaces,' said one Linux longhair. 'Frankly, I rarely use GUIs. But when they start messing with my CLI, then it's personal. I'm not going to sit here and let Red Hat infect my beloved tcsh with those annoying quirks from bash." Ah, nothing like satire that only a small group will truly grok. *grin*

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FP? FP? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4595946)

Argh! FP!

ATTENTION FP TROLLS (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4596044)

big ups to all the hardworking trolls, even pelvic thrust troll and nonsensical racism troll.

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first post? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4595947)

shoutz to octalc0de, and who.

Dear god (5, Funny)

EggplantMan (549708) | more than 11 years ago | (#4595948)

Please don't let RedHat make emacs like vi

Re:Dear god (5, Funny)

analog_line (465182) | more than 11 years ago | (#4595965)

Yes, God. Please let them remove emacs altogether from the distribution, and all will be well with Red Hat as far as I'm concerned.

Re:Dear god (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4596065)

they'll probably be able to knock at least one CD off the distro if they do that.

Vi versus Emacs... (2)

xcomputer_man (513295) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596150)

I hope this link [googlefight.com] is enough to convince them.

I also hope that page ends the debates once and for all!

Re:Dear god (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4595970)

What you mean is- Please don't let RedHat make vi like emacs!

Re:Dear god (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4595975)

and vice-versa

Re:VI (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4595990)

Wait a minute. Doesn't VI stand for Very Intuitive?

Re:VI (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4596115)

From the article:people that have accidentally started vi and couldn't figure out how to do anything -- or even how to quit

Sadly, this has happened to me. Fortunately, the only thing I need a text editor for is little things like modifying config files in Quake, so pico or notepad work just fine.

Dear god (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4595998)

Please don't let RedHat make vi like emacs

Re:Dear god (1)

lostboy2 (194153) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596003)

Soon, all your text editors will be pico! Bwahahaha!

Re:Dear god (1)

m.lemur (618095) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596075)

or worse yet.....

the DREADED ed!

They did it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4596007)

From the article:

The nullified CLI isn't the only new feature that has upset some users. Red Hat has also rebranded vi and emacs to create two virtually identical text editors: "vimacs" and "emavics".

end of quotes

Re:Dear god (1)

CanisMajor (551555) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596017)

Um, fifth paragraph down: :)
The nullified CLI isn't the only new feature that has upset some users. Red Hat has also rebranded vi and emacs to create two virtually identical text editors: "vimacs" and "emavics".
You were too late!

Re:Dear god (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4596023)

uh, the articles does say that they are going to be doing that.....You did read the article, right?!?!

The article is a humor article...not sure why it was posted.

Re:Dear god (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4596130)

The article is a humor article, hence the humor topic classification. Evidently somebody found it funny enough to be posted.

Re:Dear god (2, Funny)

nufsaid (230318) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596033)

That is mentioned in the article...

My favorite bit is the quote from the
"The head of the Emacs Flame War Re-enactment Society"

Viper makes me happy (4, Interesting)

Jason Earl (1894) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596050)

M-x viper-mode.

Re:Dear god (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4596071)

HEY! Don't you mean make emacs more like vi!

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I'm going mad.. (-1, Redundant)

IdleTime (561841) | more than 11 years ago | (#4595953)

If RedHat messes with my beloved BASH CLI, I'll go mad.....

Re:I'm going mad.. (2)

irc.goatse.cx troll (593289) | more than 11 years ago | (#4595966)

RTFA. Note the sites name.

Re:I'm going mad.. (1)

IdleTime (561841) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596027)

Sic..

And I was trying to be funny too, but obviously some people take themselves way too serious....

Btw, I did see the site and I also wondered why this article was accepted to /.

Re:I'm going mad.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4595982)

err, you mean that you'll just move to one of the 8,000 other ditros or just install the original from source?

Yea, that's what I thought you meant. :)

Screw BASH, TCSH, and all the rest. (1)

SHEENmaster (581283) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596126)

Except for ZSH! ZSH is the single most advanced shell for unix. As for KDE v GNOME, I use both on seperate X servers.

cmd (5, Funny)

Evil Adrian (253301) | more than 11 years ago | (#4595959)

Why don't they just use cmd.exe? ;-)

Re:cmd (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4596004)

Seriously, why don't they just use ksh.
All the major Unixes use ksh and ksh is
at least as good as bash or IMHO, better.

Re:cmd (1)

archen (447353) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596068)

good luck figuring out what the permissions of your files are if they do.

Re:cmd (1)

archen (447353) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596123)

actually now that I think about it you could still use ls instead of dir, oh well.

Re:cmd (5, Funny)

lostboy2 (194153) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596097)

if cmd.exe replaces *sh, then the terrorists have won. ;-)

DENNIS RITCHIE USES WINDOWS NT 4.0!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4595969)

HERE [unix.se] is the proof! www.unix.se asked several well known Unix dudes to send a screenshot of their desktop.

rash? (5, Funny)

outsider007 (115534) | more than 11 years ago | (#4595972)

I'm not going to sit here and let Red Hat infect my beloved tcsh with those annoying quirks from bash

RedHat's
Annoying
SHell

Question (0, Redundant)

program21 (469995) | more than 11 years ago | (#4595973)

Why is an article from a humor/satire site (Humorix) being posted main-page to /. ?

Re:Question (3, Insightful)

analog_line (465182) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596009)

Because most of the people who read this site need to LIGHTEN UP FOR CHRIST'S SAKE!!!!

Re:Question (1)

Subcarrier (262294) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596069)

Because most of the people who read this site need to LIGHTEN UP FOR CHRIST'S SAKE!!!!

Look, a Red Hat and a rash are already getting on my nerves but a Pink Hat might just drive me over the edge.

Re:Question (3, Insightful)

jonnythan (79727) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596022)

Because Hemos liked the link and wanted it there.

There's no mission statement for this site other than something like "the editors will post whatever stories or articles they like."

What did YOU think slashdot was?

Read the FAQ.

Re:Question (2)

program21 (469995) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596106)

I don't know, seems to me that "News for Nerds. Stuf that matters" might classify as a mission statement of some kind.

That said, I don't mind much, I just found it rather strange that something like this were to be posted to the main page (less surprising would have been non-main page), still funny though.

FAKE NEWS (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4595974)

Read the link. This is FAKE news designed to humor us. Can't believe Slashdot would even post this...

Re:FAKE NEWS (1)

Karamchand (607798) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596039)

Specially since this is fake news from the humorix mailing list, i.e. regular fake news.
But yea, this was a good one.

For subscribing information take a look at http://humorix.org/about.shtml#List [humorix.org] . I can wholeheartly recommend it! :-)

Re:FAKE NEWS (2)

jonnythan (79727) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596042)

Why not?

Re:FAKE NEWS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4596094)

Damn and I thought it was real too. Too bad it isn't. Heh, I love this quote: "Over the years, we've received nearly 1,000 technical support calls from people that have accidentally started vi and couldn't figure out how to do anything". Reminds me of the time in a university computer lab basement where one of the guys next to me accidently started emacs and couldn't get out of it. Turns out the sysadmins had aliased the single character e as emacs, and the guy accidently triggered the megashort alias. It took me several minutes to try and figure out how to get him unstuck-- I am, after all a vi user.

Re:FAKE NEWS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4596122)

they gavce it the "humor" foot-icon, so what's the problem?

Somebody's sarcasm meter needs calibration ... (2)

dougmc (70836) | more than 11 years ago | (#4595976)

Humorix? Hello, McFly?

Re:Somebody's sarcasm meter needs calibration ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4596018)

YES, it's HUMOR! That's why it's been submitted to Slashdot's HUMOR SECTION!

it's about damn time (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4595977)

why did it take soooooo long

*sigh* (1)

nogoodmonkey (614350) | more than 11 years ago | (#4595979)

I guess I'll have to download an RPM of both BASH and CSH the next time I install Redhat on a machine. Either that or I should just switch to Debian the next time I install. :-)

YOU HAVE NO CONTROL! (1, Troll)

bitpusherdotorg (544243) | more than 11 years ago | (#4595981)

I can't wait until you have absolutely no control over your hardware (LaGrande) and your software (Palladium)! An idiot-proof world for idiots!

Heretics (1, Troll)

reitoei1971 (583076) | more than 11 years ago | (#4595983)

Burn them at the stake! How dare they alter the sacred bash shell!

it is a joke! (2, Informative)

u19925 (613350) | more than 11 years ago | (#4595984)

though I wish this was really true, but unfortunately, it is just a joke.

Re:it is a joke! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4596070)

Yes, it's a joke. Hence the 'Foot' icon by the story ("It's Funny. Laugh.").

well then, don't use RH (0)

jedie (546466) | more than 11 years ago | (#4595986)

But when they start messing with my CLI, then it's personal. I'm not going to sit here and let Red Hat infect my beloved tcsh with those annoying quirks from bash.

The solution is quite simple: don't use redhat and quit whining. You don't own bash or csh and you sure as hell don't even remotely have the right to complain about the modifications redhat is making. It's free software and nobody is forcing you to use it.

Re:well then, don't use RH (1)

kpansky (577361) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596049)

Actually, we _do_ have the right to complain. We dont have the right to expect others to honor or fix things based on our whinings. However, with the right to complain comes the responsibility to fix the crap that we complain about. So yes. If you were to not like changes that RedHat makes, you have the options to

a)complain and fix the problem
b)complain and stop using the distro
c) STFU.

Re:well then, don't use RH (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4596114)

or

d) Read the article and realize that it's a joke, laugh, and go on with your life.

Re:well then, don't use RH (5, Funny)

Soko (17987) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596131)

_But when they start messing with my CLI, then it's personal. I'm not going to sit here and let Red Hat infect my beloved tcsh with those annoying quirks from bash._

The solution is quite simple: don't use redhat and quit whining. You don't own bash or csh and you sure as hell don't even remotely have the right to complain about the modifications redhat is making. It's free software and nobody is forcing you to use it.


*blink**blink* Henh?

Ohhh.... Is this thing on? Good. *AHEM*

Here ladies and gentlemen we have the common Nolifeium Nonhumourum Slashdoticus. Notice the serious countenance, the white skin and it's most distinctive marking, the flat, bald forehead from all of the jokes that go flying just over it. This particular species is closely related to the Userum Newbius Nocluseies, who also are prone to spouting off at the mouth with no clue and are usually just as humour impared. Please move along now, there's lot's more to see.

Soko

(Like the Smarticus Assunum Typesum ... :-p )

env varaibles (2)

norwoodites (226775) | more than 11 years ago | (#4595987)

does mean in bash I can say `setenv PATH ~/bin:${PATH}' or even `set path (~/bin $path)' or the other way around, in csh `EXPORT PATH=~/bin:$PATH'?

It's totally about time (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4595988)

....hope they add a switch options menu too!!!

Other shells? Unify THIS! (1)

obfuscated (258084) | more than 11 years ago | (#4595989)

I wonder how this will trickle down to the other eight billion shells there are available.

Most notably, tcsh and zsh.

Changing GUIs, good - changing shells, bad... (0)

caluml (551744) | more than 11 years ago | (#4595991)

Now this is a bad idea.

The GUIs is good - stop newbies getting confused when they start out. But the shells?

Once you know your way around a shell, you know about chsh, or editting the passwd file to change it.

I mean, I only use bash (you use what you know) but I can imagine this upsetting **lots** of people.

Imagine all those shell scripts breaking on an upgrade....

Grok? (1, Funny)

MondoMor (262881) | more than 11 years ago | (#4595993)

"Ah, nothing like satire that only a small group will truly grok."

Just like Lunix howtos.

I don't know where I ever got the idea that Linux zealots were elitist pricks. I must have imagined it.

bash? csh? i give my users... (5, Funny)

dboyles (65512) | more than 11 years ago | (#4595995)

/bin/false

It really is much more secure.

Re:bash? csh? i give my users... (5, Funny)

psavo (162634) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596076)

To be sure, I give the fuckers /dev/random. If lucky, it'll screw their terminal and they won't bother me.

Re:bash? csh? i give my users... (1)

TheLastUser (550621) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596136)

/bin/false ? Personally, I prefer the features of /bin/nosuchshell

Hmm (2, Informative)

Hamster Of Death (413544) | more than 11 years ago | (#4595997)

First thing I read in the article:

Fake News written by James Baughn on September 25, 2002
from the let-the-flame-wars-continue! dept.

I think the -Fake News- part might reveal some insight on the credibility of the story!

Re:Hmm (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4596037)

Dude, you are right, it's a fake story! It's Satire! THEY ARE NOT REALLY DOING THIS SO CALM DOWN! Dind't the foot as the Icon give you Clue #2? :x:q or was that ^q? Damn Vimacs!

True Comedy... (5, Insightful)

Anonvmous Coward (589068) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596149)

"Dude, you are right, it's a fake story! It's Satire! THEY ARE NOT REALLY DOING THIS SO CALM DOWN! Dind't the foot as the Icon give you Clue #2? :x:q or was that ^q? Damn Vimacs!"

I think the real comedy here isn't the satirical write-up, but the responses to it.

Re:Hmm (1)

Sn4xx0r (613157) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596112)

"it's almost two months old! that's not news! old news for nerds, stuff that used to matter!"

From the troll-preempting dept. :) I must admit, when I read the submission write-up I thought: how the hell are they gonna do that..

Re:Hmm (1)

beebware (149208) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596142)

Plus this was posted to the /. section "It's funny. Laugh [slashdot.org] " and it's also "from the funny-funny-haha dept." should help people realise it is a joke and that Hemos knows it is...

Shell Game (2, Funny)

chrisleonard (523594) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596001)

Who cares if they change the shell? As long as they publish API's for the middleware pieces, how could we possibly complain?

huh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4596005)

This is a joke article...what gives? The /. editors just got trolled?

The article goes on to say how they also combined vi and emacs......freakin A the site's name is Humorix.

Re:huh (2, Informative)

HTMLSpinnr (531389) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596048)

What's funnier is that some people here haven't quite gotten the fact that it IS a joke.

Come on people, read the article...

/me sits back patiently and watches the crowd reaction as they flame Red Hat, bitch about their beloved csh or bash, or just kick Coyboy Neal in the nuts for posting such useless drivel. :-)

Re:huh (1)

Metalhead01 (587101) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596108)

Doesn't reading the article BEFORE posting about it violate Slashdot law?

Slashdot editor question (-1)

kryonD (163018) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596010)

How often do you pass a story without reading the article? I will refrain from b|7ch|ng about the legitimate stories I've had rejected, but this is nothing more than a glorified TROLL. There is no real news behind the story and it's even headlined as FAKE NEWS dated 25 September. I wonder how many slashdotters just had valuable time wasted where they could have been spending their work hours reading more legitimate slashdot stories :)

Re:Slashdot editor question (4, Informative)

SnAzBaZ (572456) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596026)

If you hadn't noticed it's under the "funny/humour" catogory. Turn this catagory off in your preferences if you dont want it.

Re:Slashdot editor question (0)

kryonD (163018) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596100)

Turns out we're both correct. I was definitely wrong about why the article was posted. But you have to admit I was right about the TROLL part. It was so good in fact, that I didn't even get past the title before I had linked through to the artle to see what was up. I must admit I was a bit curious on how someone would combine those two shells.

heehee (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4596019)

Looks like Hemos got a little TOO fucked over the weekend.

RedHat policy (0)

reitoei1971 (583076) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596021)

I think RH is limiting choice now. First the GUI, now the shell, how far will they take this? Is this good for Linux? Probably. It may give a uniform UI so some new Linux user can show his other new Linux user friend how to do something, and knows it will work the same way. Just as long as the ability is there (and obviously there) for more advanced users to customize it. I had a little trouble changing my Gnome window manager to sawfish in Limbo which I did not like!

Why? Why? (0)

SirCrashALot (614498) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596025)

They keep combining things for now apparent purpose. Is there a particular reason that they are doing this? They just make everything generic. The bluecurve/gnome 2 menus are cluttered, with things like emacs repeated, and system settings in 5 different menus. I can't imagine how they would do this to a shell, but I guess small things like variables and file selection can be "tweaked."

--Jason

Thank god, another shell to learn about! (1)

reverendG (602408) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596034)

I've always felt like I've been on the outside. For the entire time that I've been using *nix, I've had to choose from already extant shells, while my long haired collegues make fun of losers who can't use (insert shell flavor here).

Now it's The Rev's turn! Watch out whoever can only use Red Hat's shell! I'm going to mock you relentlessly!

What's the difference between the two? (2)

Wakko Warner (324) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596038)

I honestly can't tell.

They both suck.

zsh all the way, mofos.

- A.P.

a joke, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4596040)

Yes, this was a joke story, but there is a kernel of truth. I'm friends with the 10th person hired at Red Hat (Andrew Henderson), and he has said that internal politics regarding BSD-style shells versus Linux-style shells have reached a boiling point. It is something of an old-guard/new-guard thing.

He said he would not be surprised at all if John Mathers (Red Hat's Director of Technology) made such a decision in the near future. My friend assured me that the tech workforce inside the company would NOT let that happen.

Posting anon in case I wasn't supposed to mention any of this....

This has got to be a joke (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4596056)

It would have been better if it was announced on April Fools day...

hahaha (3, Funny)

sanermind (512885) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596058)

That's great. Don't bother reading this comment. Nothing insightfull hear.

....but DAMN, that was funny. I loved the part about vimacs and emavics.... couldn't stop laughing. I don't understand why some people are posting complaints, like
How dare a serious news site like /. put this on the
main page


Geesh. I'm glad for it, it brightened my day.

fake rhash... (1)

monadicIO (602882) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596060)

Someday, all of us will actually read the news headers!

Slashdot Nullifies Differences Between News, Hoax (3, Insightful)

jukal (523582) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596066)

As stated in some other thread as well, read the first 2 lines of the atleast [i-want-a-website.com] : "Fake News written by James Baughn". And still, if you wish to speculate on the matter. Speculate on whether you are still capable of choosing your favorite /bin/l33t if you are capable of speculating on this speculative hoax?

Had to be said... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4596073)

All your shell are belong to us!

Holy mother of god! (5, Insightful)

Rob Riggs (6418) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596074)

I've never seen such a collection of knee-jerk humorless reactionaries in my life!!! I think the responses to this article are funnier than the article itself.

Warning: serious reactions to this article will go on your permanent record!!!

Only a few will truly grok (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4596077)

>Ah, nothing like satire that only a small group
>will truly grok. *grin*

Anyone else want to join me in saying "SHUT THE FUCK UP HEMOS!" This is not even the remotest bit obscure, and I would guess at least 90% of slashdot readers will understand this. Seriously, what has slashdot editing come to? Why don't you get down off your horse Hemos, you are not 31337, and no one here thinks you are cool. How about some intelligent commentary? How about something that makes sense.

If you don't have anything to say, then SHUT THE FUCK UP!

Re:Only a few will truly grok (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4596090)

I have to agree that the comment is a bit on the stupid side. But with slashdot editors reposting stories from the week before, what can we expect. I for one think there ought to be a main page poll with the question: "Should OSDN layoff slashdot editors and hire new ones who know what they are doing"

Re:Only a few will truly grok (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4596133)

Even with his mention that it is satire apparently a large number of people were still stupid enough to think that it is a true story! So don't say they didn't at least try to warn you.

Re:Come on guys... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4596103)

Come on guys, yes it was a rather silly comment for him to make, but definatly not "shut the f*** up" quality. So the editors mess up every now and then, cut them some slack!

Blatently off-topic. (1, Offtopic)

pschmied (5648) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596089)

Here's a sample .zshrc file for those users more sophisticated than tcsh or bash users :-)

Seriously though, MacOSX includes zsh and just about every Linux and BSD distro has a port. Give it a shot. It's worth it.

# Peter's .zshrc. See http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/librar y/l-z.html?open&l=335,t=gr,p=Z-Shell for more info
# Comfort options
setopt CORRECT AUTO_LIST AUTO_MENU
alias ls='ls -F'
alias ll='ls -laF'
# Tab completion for "cd" only returns directories
compctl -g '*(-/) .*(-/)' cd

# Set the prompt
PROMPT='%m}%~> '


-Peter

They are building an OS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4596091)

Obviously RedHat is building thier own OS from the linux kernel dont complain that you want thier OS to work the way you want. If you want to stay with (GNU/)Linux then veer away from RedHat sooner or later the kernel RedHat uses will be incompatible with linus' kernel

What's funnier? (5, Insightful)

MalleusEBHC (597600) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596102)

The article itself, or the fact that it seems like the majority of posters have failed to:

A) RTFA
B) Notice that this is "from the funny-funny-haha dept."
C) Read the editors comment Hemos left in the little blurb once again clueing them into the fact that the article is a joke just like the ignorant fools who have started to bitch already.

What's the point? (1)

HeX86 (536126) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596109)

Instead of making bash like csh, or csh like bash, why don't they just not include one or the other. Duh....

That or make their own...

God... here we go as ususal. (1, Insightful)

Chicane-UK (455253) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596113)

I think its the 'anal' Linux zealots who ultimately stop Linux from moving forward because they are so stuck in their ways.

If you dont like what Red Hat do then don't use their sodding distribution. There are plenty of other people out there who appreciate that Red Hat are interested in making the Linux experience as easy as possible for newer users, rather than confusing the hell out of them.

Lord knows they pump enough cash & resources into the community, and all people do is bitch about em.

Best part from the article.. (5, Funny)

schon (31600) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596120)

This bit had me rolling on the floor..

The head of the Emacs Flame War Re-enactment Society (a group that re-enacts the great Usenet emacs versus vi flames wars of the 20th Century) said, "Red Hat is destroying our cultural heritage!

Ahh.. I know guys who belong to war re-enactment societies.. and this about sums them up..

The best post, ever (2)

LoRider (16327) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596127)

I love it when Slashdot posts stuff like this. All the morons that don't read the articles look stupid when they go off on a tangent.

It's like April 1st but better.

For the record, I can be caught not reading the articles from time to time [slashdot.org] - but I never said I wasn't a moron.

hm (2)

SubtleNuance (184325) | more than 11 years ago | (#4596145)

how are they going to manage to avoid the thousands of #!/bin/bash scripts?

its one thing to say they want to *create* another unified shell say, /bin/rh-shell or somesuch, which 'unifies' shell differences (?why?) but how are you they going to do this without the headaches?

they would be further ahead to just say "we use /bin/bash" and switch EVERYTHING in RedHat GNU/Linux to it.

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