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High Power RocketCam Videos

timothy posted more than 11 years ago | from the if-you-got-the-money-honey dept.

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HaveNoMouth writes "What happens when the founder of Xircom and his brother bolt a DV Camcorder to the side of a 200 lb. model rocket and press the red button? The incredible movies (with sound!) at Gates Bros. Rocketry tell the tale. The quality of these movies is by far the best I've seen from the "strap a camera to a flying toy" community. They have a nice gallery of still photos too. If only everyone named Gates did stuff this cool."

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264 comments

Raketemensch! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714083)

Erster Pfosten, Gertruden!

Slashdot's unethical ad campaign (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714195)

See.

There's a sneaky ad in the "Related info" box.

As if having a page wide, animated and fucking annoying SourceForge ad at the top of the page, now they've started cramming ads down our throats.

What happens (5, Funny)

jki (624756) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714092)

What happens when the founder of Xircom and his brother bolt a DV Camcorder to the side of a 200 lb. model rocket and press the red button

Tens of thousands of USD is blown up in the air and converted into a couple of movies which can be shown on Slashdot so that we can make insightful comments like this?

Re:What happens (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714102)

should have bought a $200 walmart cheapo cam. the quality might such just a little, but you'll be about $600 richer in the end.

Re:What happens (0, Flamebait)

Cheese Cracker (615402) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714104)

Tens of thousands of USD is blown up in the air and converted into a couple of movies which can be shown on Slashdot so that we can make insightful comments like this?

Microsoft spends billions of dollars in producing software that makes computers insecure, just so that we can comment it here at Slashdot... The founder of Xircom and his brother just found a cheaper way of keeping us glued to Slashdot... ;)

Re:What happens (0, Offtopic)

jki (624756) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714113)

The founder of Xircom and his brother just found a cheaper way of keeping us glued to Slashdot... ;)

Yeah, but where's the minesweeper icon?

Re:What happens (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714121)

i just think it's extremely cool that, at least in the rocket video i just watched, it landed standing straight up.

Great movies... (1, Insightful)

Cheese Cracker (615402) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714094)

and the site haven't been /.ed yet... :)

definitely! (2)

ryochiji (453715) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714138)

I just watched the high res version of the on-board camera for Jayhawk...and it was awesome!! Beats NASA's attempt at strapping on a camera to a rocket, if you ask me.

Besides, it landed standing up. How cool is that?

they blew up the Shuttle, what more do you want? (0, Offtopic)

DrSkwid (118965) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714204)

no text0x

Re:Great movies... (1)

amonroy (588384) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714159)

maybe becase it's 5:20 am ?

Re:Great movies... (1)

sirius_bbr (562544) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714173)

maybe becase it's 5:20 am

Maybe we don't all live in the same timezone...

Re:Great movies... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714224)

If you don't live in the USA you are a terrorist. We will bomb you eventually.

Re:Great movies... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714183)

Yeah, I surprised! Those are the best damn dildo commercials I've ever seen!

if only... (3, Funny)

Animaether (411575) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714095)

if only they could strap a DVcam to the desk pointing at the blinkenlights on their server as the poor thing gets slashdotted to hell and back

Re:if only... (5, Funny)

The Original Yama (454111) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714175)

Of course, you'd need a separate server & bandwidth for the camera feed, so that we can actually see the slashdotting. Then we need a camera (with its own server & bandwidth) to see the blinkenlights on the first camera's server so that we can see it being slashdotted. Then we need a third camera to see the blinkenlights on the second camera's server...

Homeland Security Bill - APPROVED (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714177)

And so it begins...

I'm going to send my thanks to these nine brave individuals who stood up against the Orwellian monstrosity giving the government and corporations unprecedented powers to stomp on our rights.

The senators who voted against the measure were

Ted Kennedy, D-Massachusetts
Paul Sarbanes, D-Maryland
Jim Jeffords, I-Vermont
Daniel Akaka, D-Hawaii
Daniel Inouye, D-Hawaii
Robert Byrd, D-West Virginia
Carl Levin, D-Michigan
Ernest "Fritz" Hollings, D-South Carolina
Russ Feingold, D-Wisconsin

Re:Homeland Security Bill - APPROVED (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714190)

Fritz voted AGAINST? Disney will be disappointed.

Re:Homeland Security Bill - APPROVED (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714203)

Disney didn't get any pork in this bill whereas big pharma did.

I don't know which "honorable" Senator(s) are owned by the big pharma, but apparently Fritz wasn't one of them.

Re:Homeland Security Bill - APPROVED (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714267)

Go Hawaii. w00t w00t! That's both my senators there.

That's Interesting! (3, Interesting)

Zech Harvey (604609) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714096)


You know, since Carmack shares a love of the same hobby as these gentlemen, I wonder if this would interest him? I would say it might. And being that it might, I wonder if he would code a mini-cam for the Rocket Launcher in Doom III? Bullet-time eat your heart out!

Re:That's Interesting! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714106)

Best FPS weapon will always be the Redeemer. If you don't know what that is, you're probably the guy I keep blowing up with it.

Re:That's Interesting! (5, Informative)

JanusFury (452699) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714134)

There's already been a camera for rocket launchers in FPSes before - Unreal Tournament (and Unreal Tournament 2003, I think) allows you to steer the Redeemer missle in first person.

What happens when... (1, Funny)

Russellkhan (570824) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714099)

You put movies with sound up on your site and someone links to it on Slashdot? The server goes down hard!

Actually, I'm impressed - I'm downloading one of the mpegs right now and getting it at a pretty good speed.

Russ

Re:What happens when... (2, Insightful)

sirius_bbr (562544) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714108)

They _really_ should have put up divx there instead of mpeg.
They're just asking to be /.-ed :)

Re:What happens when... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714132)

Probably because they're rich and can pay for bandwidth :)

Well... (4, Funny)

acehole (174372) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714100)

I guess it'd be an improvement over strapping someone to a rocket then hoping they survived the landing so they could tell you about it.

Re:Well... (3, Funny)

MacAndrew (463832) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714280)

They tried that. Notice they don't mention their "other" brother, Wayne, who would've been fine if he hadn't struggled so much on the way up.

Isn't that just the way... (4, Funny)

djupedal (584558) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714103)

So I build this nice, trim little single stage rocket (solid fuel), and my brother talks me into strapping another zero delay motor onto the bottom....it went fine until the tagged on motor lit the main motor....the rocket tumbled just for an instant, and when the main motor fired, the rocket was horizontal...it quickly made it to a nearby freeway and took out an aged Mustang. We figured since lunch was almost over we'd just as soon head back to the lab and quietly call it a day. A camera on that one would have shown one ticked off Mustang owner, I'm sure.

Don't know if I have the nerve to sacrifice a DV camera...but maybe someone else's camera would be ok :)

Re:Isn't that just the way... (5, Interesting)

tanveer1979 (530624) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714247)

The tumbling is due to the fact that the full thrust us taking too much time to come. By the time full thurst came, the initial thrust had already lifted of the rocket and naturally due to that newton guy this thing would start tumbling, and when thrust was enough to pull it with speed it was horizontal.

The solution would be to have a pipe around the rocket, by the time the rocket exits the pipe full thrust would be generated, and before that the pipe would keep it more or less straigt. Or if you can have such a motor design which can go to full thurst in minimal time it would be great, but that is expensive.

If you want a safer demo of this you can try this. Take the ordinary fireworks rocket, the small one with the long stick which you put in a bottle and then ignote the fuse. You will see that the rocket goes quite save. Next take a smaller bottle and place the rocket so that the bottom of the stick is very near to top of botle. you will see that the initial thrust will have the rocket out of the bottle, but since the thrust is not enough yet the rocket will begin to fall sideways and by the time it falls power is max and you have a SSM!

Cool! (2, Interesting)

Goldberg's Pants (139800) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714112)

While the on rocket cams are good, I think the tower ones are most impressive. I'm amazed the cameras still worked afterwards! Wow!

SHORTEST AND LONGEST BOOKS (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714117)

SHORTEST BOOKS EVER WRITTEN

"A Guide To Arab Democracies"
"A Hiker's Guide To The Ho Chi Minh Trail"
"Advanced Linux User's Guide"
"Blacks I Met While Yachting"
"Career Opportunities for Liberal Arts Majors"
"Excellence In The CFL"
"Fast And Efficient Windows Applications"
"How To Be A Good Sport", by Tonya Harding
"How To Win The Super Bowl", by Jim Kelly
"Keebler Elves That Touch Themselves"
"My Life As A Woman", by Martina Navratilova
"The Engineer's Guide to Fashion"
"Young, Single Males Speak Out Against Masturbation"
"How to be Normal" and "How to be Polite" both by RMS
"Easy to use Linux"
A Canadian telephone book
"My Social Life" by ESR
"Correct Spelling and Grammar in English" by Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda
"Business Ethics" by William Gates III (with foreword by Ken Lay)
"Heterosexuality among the Slashdot crew"
"Truths I have told" by Al Gore
"How to Speak Clearly and Correctly" by George W. Bush
"How Canadians Stand Up for Themselves"
"How to Get a Date with a Woman" by your local LUG
"How to Tell the Truth" by William J. Clinton
"The Names of Women Interested in Linux Geeks"
"Successful Business Plans Using Linux"
"What I Wouldn't Do For Money" by Jon Katz
"How to Write Software People Would Want to Buy" by Linus Torvalds
"Addresses of Houses in Canada that aren't Igloos"

LONGEST BOOKS EVER WRITTEN

"Loneliness, Buttplugs, Linux and You" by ESR
"Why your name should have 'GNU/' in Front of It" by RMS
"Being Rude to Foriegners" by the French Government
"How to Sexually Abuse Penguins" by Linus Torvalds
"Homosexuality among the Slashdot crew"

Re:SHORTEST AND LONGEST BOOKS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714243)

"Being Rude to Foriegners" by the French Government

And the follow-up in the "Government" series - "Things I Don't Know Much About" by George W. Bush

What happens? (5, Funny)

JanusFury (452699) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714119)

What happens when the founder of Xircom and his brother bolt a DV Camcorder to the side of a 200 lb. model rocket and press the red button?
It gets posted on the slashdot front page and somebody makes a joke about {Bill Gates/Microsoft/Windows/RIAA/MPAA, chooose one}? Oh, that and you scare some wildlife. You can't launch a 200 pound rocket without scaring the shit out of SOMETHING.

Shock certified camcorders! (3, Interesting)

krazyninja (447747) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714120)

"What happens when...."

For one, JVC and Canon camcorder models mentioned in the site get shock certified at 0.6 Mach speed, with forces exceeding 1G. Wow!

Cheap shots... again. (5, Insightful)

Mitreya (579078) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714122)

...If only everyone named Gates did stuff this cool."

Is it really really neccessary to have a cheap shot at MS no matter how little the post might be related? Why don't we just have a default sig "Windoze sucks, Linux rulez."?

Just in case the posters read the comments: Please lash out at MS and other scapegoats ONLY when it is justified. (not too optimistic, since not all posters proofread the submissions or even read the articles, it seems... sigh...)

Re:Cheap shots... again. (5, Funny)

herrd0kt0r (585718) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714205)

Is it really really neccessary to have a cheap shot at MS no matter how little the post might be related?

yes.

Why don't we just have a default sig "Windoze sucks, Linux rulez."?

we do.

---
Windoze sucks, Linux rulez.

Yes it is necessary. (2)

torpor (458) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714208)

Bill Gates doesn't do anything cool.

As he is an active /. reader, he must be told.

No, he took a swipe at BILL. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714270)

There's a difference, you know.

(Talk about knee-jerk reactionaries.... or is that just 'jerk' reactionaries...)

Bill does need to do something uber-nerdy (1)

deathcloset (626704) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714271)

I must say, The least Billy could do is launch a remote controlled space shuttle into orbit and rendevous with the ISS. He could have a camera beam his face to an lcd on the front so he could pull up to one of the viewports and scare the astronauts.

Absolutely agree (1)

Burb (620144) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714287)

Yeah, it's lots of fun dissing Bill. But Slashdot will get more kudos in the wider world if it restricts it's criticism of Microsoft to situations where it's really justified.

"by far the best I've seen" (5, Funny)

nakaduct (43954) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714127)

The quality of these movies is by far the best I've seen from the "strap a camera to a flying toy" community.
And yet, still vastly inferior to the output of the "strap a camera to a showerhead" community.

Combine the best of both. (2, Funny)

JanusFury (452699) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714141)

strap a camera to a flying toy and fly it into the showers at a local school
Get the best of both, people freaking out hilariously and lots of h4w7 n3kk1d gur1z 8-). You could even have it blow up afterward, but that would ruin the whole video thing.

Re:Combine the best of both. (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714232)

You want school girls to blow your rocket, are you a child molester?

On the subject of 'Gates' (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714128)

It's pretty offtopic, I know, but does anyone else here really wonder about Bill Gates? I mean, he is a geek, right? Would it be possible to hang out with the guy and have a good time chatting about different clever ways to approximate solutions to the travelling salesman problem?

Does the guy code?

Does he have other geek hobbies?

I mean, seriously. I think this is fascinating stuff. Whether we like it or not, HE'S ONE OF US (but maybe with a different economic perspective). Wouldn't it be interesting to get to know the other Bill Gates?

Re:On the subject of 'Gates' (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714153)

Hmmm... I like the thought...
Perhaps a slashdot interview -- with the restriction that nothing can be about anything MS related (ie: "Do you think DRM in windows... etc" is a no-no, but "How often do you blow shit up in your microwave? Do you have a warehouse full of microwave ovens?" yes-yes") would be a good idea.
Perhaps we could even get him to admit that he's been contributing to the apach project under a psuedonym for the past three years... ;)

-your mother

Amazing! (3, Funny)

joebp (528430) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714129)

This is the most amazing thing I've seen in all my life! The way it goes up, gets put through such a lot of strain and still lives! And it's still flying! I wonder what hardware they're using.

Oh, the videos of the rockets are OK too.

*rimshot*

Time to put away childish things... (-1, Troll)

locarecords.com (601843) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714136)

Wouldn't it be better and more rewarding to give the money to charity than to just blow up DV camcorders. This seems enormously childish and selfish for no gain *except* the feeling of burning money for nothing but a cheap thrill.

I do sometimes wonder about people like this - with so much child poverty in the US, hunger and disease in the developing world, misogynistic and repressive state actions around the globe and a terrifying new famine certain to hit Ethiopia very soon. Should we really be acting like spoilt little children breaking our toys just because we are bored.

Re:Time to put away childish things... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714148)

Oh shutup, Child poverty? Hunger? Hello earth to liberal these things have always and will always exist. No amout of effort or money will make them go away. So if you got the toys to blow up go for it and brighten the days of a few lonely geeks.

Re:Time to put away childish things... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714172)

You are obviously an idiot.


Spending money at all on childish poverty will make no difference? These things have always been with us?


Er.. maybe they have always been with us *because* idiots like you propose spending no money.

Re:Time to put away childish things... (2)

Qrlx (258924) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714214)

Was there poverty before money?

Ultimately, possesion is what leads to poverty. It also leads to having an economy. If you ask me the jury's still out, but in Western Civilization, inventing shit, finding new ways to do things, and getting rich is "morally right." Cultures that don't hold those values get disappeared by Western Civilization. Our whole "way of life" is in part predicated on greed. It's the Invisible Hand that Adam Smith was all on about.

The problem, though, is how do you get people to share without, well, completely redistributing wealth and resources? And why shouldn't there be poor people? If you're lazy, shouldn't you be poor?

These questions have been debated for centuries, and we still have poverty. We suck.

Re:Time to put away childish things... (2)

locarecords.com (601843) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714222)

Rubbish.

Have you actually *read* The Wealth of Nations? Do you think that Adam Smith was proposing completely unchecked market economics???

Er... No.

Re:Time to put away childish things... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714186)

Hello earth to liberal these things have always and will always exist

People have always murdered each other and always will. Let's stop wasting MY (MY, MY, MY!) TAX MONEY on cops.

Re:Time to put away childish things... (1)

Zoolander (590897) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714225)

It's always like this:
If someone suggests that we start caring about people, or even try to be less egoistic, he's a 'liberal'.
And I don't even find 'liberal' derogatory, is that baad, Mr. Right-wing?
Since you people seem to use it as an insult.

Re:Time to put away childish things... (2)

jki (624756) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714157)

Wouldn't it be better and more rewarding to give the money to charity than to just blow up DV camcorders. This seems enormously childish and selfish for no gain *except* the feeling of burning money for nothing but a cheap thrill.

Exactly. It is extremely bizarre in cases like this where the thrill is obtained by just burning money and no brains or hack value (which they seem to be hunting for) involved at all. I believe this experiment could have been useful too - but atleast they failed to reveal that on the site. But naturally, it is their money and they can burn it anyway they want. As it must matter for them a lot: hack-value points from the local audience: void.

Re:Time to put away childish things... (5, Funny)

Tailhook (98486) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714164)

Wouldn't it be better and more rewarding to give the money to charity than to just blow up DV camcorders.

No.

Re:Time to put away childish things... (5, Interesting)

jlanthripp (244362) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714184)

You mean a cheap thrill and valuable research data that may be used to make space travel cheaper, safer, and more efficient? Have you ever heard of a man named Werner Von Braun? You know, the man who contributed more working knowledge to the US space program than any other single person (granted, knowledge gained mostly from the German V2 rocket program, but we won't go there because it involved nasty things like slave labor and the US government deciding that his expertise was more important than justice) - he got his start making small liquid-fueled rockets about the size of the solid-fueled rockets shown in the referenced site. Who knows, maybe one of these hobbyists will end up working for NASA one day and inventing an O-ring that won't get brittle at low temperatures, or some other rocket safety improvement - thus preventing the Challenger thing from happening again.

BTW, if you had actually RTFA or watched the videos, you would know that they recover the rockets using parachutes - which keeps the camcorders from breaking apart when the rockets reacquaint themselves with terra firma.

If you really believe your own bullshit, what are you doing with a computer and an internet connection? For what you spend every month on your internet connection alone you could feed a starving child in Uganda for a year! I mean, really! Shame on you (and me)!

We should be volunteering at our local soup kitchens and donating all our spare cash to feed those poor starving children in some nameless backwater instead of surfing the web, watching TV, and playing with our modded Xboxes. After all, /. user number 601843 says so!

Re:Time to put away childish things... (1, Insightful)

locarecords.com (601843) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714216)


Firstly this has no scientific value at all.


Secondly, I am not proposing an anti-technological anti-progress position here. It is quite simple, these people are *burning* money for no other reason than there own individualistic selfish satisfaction. And yes, the fuel costs money as does the destroyed rockets, ruined camcorders (lets face it how long can they really last) and all to stick look-at-me videos on the internet.


I am merely stating that when you look around at the world (and the Internet has been enormously useful in helping us to do just that) you see repressive states, anti-democractic regimes, torture, poverty, starvation and unhappiness.


When you start to think you as a nation have absolutely no responsibilies to the rest of the globe (ie as America so often does) then there is a very real danger in the growth of terrorist organisations and anti-american sentiment growing. And if this is allowed to grow unchecked *no* amount of American hegemony or military muscle is going to stop it. This is a political problem and requires sensitivity to the problems of the world.


I fear that the Internet as an advert for the sheer unadulturated self-satisified and selfish behaviour of Americans will be the last thing you as a nation need at the moment. But then maybe its true that you *really* don't care and don't want to know...

Re:Time to put away childish things... (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714291)

Firstly this has no scientific value at all.

And I assume you have the credentials to back up this claim? Please tell me which university has granted you a degree in rocket science or aerospace engineering.

It is quite simple, these people are *burning* money for no other reason than there own individualistic selfish satisfaction.

It's their money to burn. Maybe the people who do these kinds of things also tend to be socially-conscious people who donate a sizeable chunk of time and/or money to the Good Cause Du Jour. Besides, hobbies, individualism and fun are bad because...?

I am merely stating that when you look around at the world (and the Internet has been enormously useful in helping us to do just that) you see repressive states, anti-democractic regimes, torture, poverty, starvation and unhappiness.

And what exactly do you suggest we do about this? I mean it - if you have the solutions to these problems, speak up! People have been trying to solve these problems for literally thousands of years - if you know how to solve them, well...the Nobel Peace Prize awaits!

When you start to think you as a nation have absolutely no responsibilies to the rest of the globe (ie as America so often does)...

You're right. We don't. Since when did the US (or any other nation) become the world's police force/janitors/feeders/saviours? Why should we have to clean up the messes made by others? Everybody bitches when the US doesn't get involved, then they bitch when the US does get involved. Make up your fucking minds already!

...then there is a very real danger in the growth of terrorist organisations and anti-american sentiment growing.

...Resentment caused by the US getting involved and trying to help someone somewhere (regardless of whether said attempts to help were unsuccessful and/or directed at the wrong people or places - nobody ever said the US was perfect, at least nobody who's sane).

And if this is allowed to grow unchecked *no* amount of American hegemony or military muscle is going to stop it.

Hear hear! Personally I'd like to see the US withdraw from the UN and tell them to find another country to hold their parties in, then withdraw all military forces to US soil, to be used only to totally annihilate any nation that invades the country or blows up parts of it. Then tell the rest of the world to go clean up their own damn mess.

But then maybe its true that you *really* don't care and don't want to know...

<sarcasm>You're right. I don't care and I don't want to know. I just want to watch cool videos of big penis-shaped rockets being fired into the air, and speculate on how big of a payload they could carry to blow up schools and hospitals in some third-world starving hellhole.</sarcasm>

(jlanthripp, posting anonymously because of the bleeding heart socialists with mod points)

Re:Time to put away childish things... (-1, Flamebait)

VC (89143) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714192)

Karma burn time...

Jeez, get a life. I know your a troll, but seriously are you sure you should be reading slashdot? This aint amnesty international dot com you know. Its slashdot, we like strapping hi tech gear to explosives and shouting whoop whoop, and damn it this is our website, so please take your moralising somewhere else.
ps If your local synagogue/church is allowed to have bingo, while there there are "starving children" then its probably ok.. Ok?
Good, glad we got that cleared up.

Re:Time to put away childish things... (1)

locarecords.com (601843) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714227)

I didn't think it was Amnesty International.

I thought it was a site that welcomed interesting thoughts and comments and valued the American values of debate and democracy.

Or maybe I was wrong.

Re:Time to put away childish things... (1)

thunderbee (92099) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714297)

I don't think you can use "American values" and "debate and democracy" in the same sentence anymore. Or maybe just democracy, you can still debate all you want as long as you just debate and don't act.
And no, I'm not trolling, I really think democracy left gradually without anyone noticing.

Re:Time to put away childish things... (2)

JaredOfEuropa (526365) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714202)

So they aren't allowed to have a hobby now? Who are you to tell or even suggest how and where they spend their money?

If you'd have taken the trouble to take a look at the site and the video's, you'd have seen that the object they tried to achieve wasn't blowing up camcorders, it was to send one up in a rocket and bring it down in one piece. Which they did.

As for the "gain" they got out of it... as anyone with a similar hobby knows, it is not about cheap thrills, but about the thrill of personal achievement. And as anyone who has experienced that kind of thrill will attest: it is something worth spending money on.

Re:Time to put away childish things... (1)

herrd0kt0r (585718) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714213)

no kidding. the HERRD0KT0R FUND FOR BLOWING UP CRAP has been bone dry ever since the dotcom bubble burst.

people, give to charities now! without your support, the only people who'll be able to blow stuff up are people like the Gates brothers.

i'd give to this charity myself, but you know, i'd rather spend money on computers and stuff so i can spend my time bitching and moaning about things, instead of dedicating my resources to anything productive. like a job. so i can make money. to blow stuff up.

Re:Time to put away childish things... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714226)

Oh,
1) get a life
2) go away
3) don't come back.

Pantywaist.

Wait right here and I'll go find the URL for bleeding heart liberals. You guys are SO tiring.

Re:Time to put away childish things... (2)

locarecords.com (601843) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714249)

Nice to see an adult response.

Why are so many slashdotters so seemingly terrified of a critical question about one of the site posts?

Must we really be robots being fed this information or can we actually say something critical occassionally without the need for abuse?

No-one seems to be proposing outlawing hobbies, and frankly I don't propose to, however some hobbies make less sense than others, for example Saddam presumably thinks he has every right to indulge in his 'hobbies' so why are you American's so keen to stop him? Oh right, yeah, because he is a *threat* to the world, he is 'evil'... oh I see claims to a moral position when it suits the *Americans*....

Or would it be ok if he strapped DV cameras to his rockets and posted them to Slashdot?

Does raise the interesting question of this very useful rocket technology information being posted where Saddam can find it easily ...

Oh, grow up! Re:Time to put away childish things.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714286)

"...very useful rocket technology information being posted where Saddam can find it easily ..."

Oh, grow UP!

The sheer arrogance of your assumption that Saddam needs to learn about rockets from a model rocketry post on Slashdot... simply mind BOGGLING.

You, sir, need a reality check. One that doesn't bounce.

Re:Oh, grow up! Re:Time to put away childish thing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714304)

You need to build a record program. Firstly you need to know the maths. Then the physics. Then the engineering.. however the hard part is the technical which is basically building the prototypes. This takes a lot of time and money and is not easy to do if you have an UN inspection team over your head.

Knowledge is useful. *Even* from Slashdot!

Re:Time to put away childish things... (3, Insightful)

digitalbeing (84400) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714289)

I can't believe you are comparing rocketry videos with using chemical weapons on your own people. When I was in school, you could tell a debate was degenerating when someone made an analogy to Hitler. Today, it is Saddam.

Congratulations on resorting to the last refuge of a desperate debater. Only took you 50 minutes from your first post.

Re:Time to put away childish things... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714295)

Oh and hang on. Bush compares Saddam with... er... hang on... right yeah.. Hitler...

Re:Time to put away childish things... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714298)

1) get a life
2) ???
3) Profit!

MOD THIS POST UP (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714258)

Why can't people make critical comments without being swamped and mod'ed down?

The problems with the kind of moderation on slashdot seems to be that no alternative voices get heard. You only hear what you collectively want to hear - has anybody read Atlas Shrugged?

Re:Time to put away childish things... (1)

digitalbeing (84400) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714261)

Wouldn't it be better and more rewarding to give away your money to charity than to sell electronica, like at locarecords.com?

Perhaps we should stop buying music. Especially electronica. All those expensive synthesizers.

How can anybody buy or sell entertainment when the children are starving?

You did get an eyeball going to your site - was that the purpose of this troll?

Re:Time to put away childish things... (2)

locarecords.com (601843) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714282)

Actually if you had spent anytime on the site you would have realised that the record label LOCA [locarecords.com] is committed to Open Media. That means we are putting all our output into the public domain royalty free - copyleft... Copy what you like, we just love the music...

And as I have said previously, I am not anti-technological nor anti-progess, merely I believe we need to be more sensitive to issues. Rather than, wow a rocket that has a DV camera, gosh, wow, amazing. Yeah right.. amazing waste of money... hardly creative and hardly useful either...

And I have not said stop buying things. The purpose of the post was to raise a dissenting voice and say, hey, maybe this isn't all that great, is that *so* bad??

Re:Time to put away childish things... (1)

adolf (21054) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714279)

Yes; we should be acting like spoilt little children, to as much of an extent as our pocketbooks will permit.

It is, after all, the [cmdrtaco.net] American [photo.net] dream [fh-zwickau.de] . [fueleconomy.gov]

What happens? (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714137)

What happens when the founder of Xircom and his brother bolt a DV Camcorder to the side of a 200 lb. model rocket and press the red button?

You prove to NASA that it can be done cheaply? [slashdot.org] :)
-mo

Hee yaa (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714143)

Whoa. Rocket cam. Cool. Very cool. It's like you're there man! up in the sky! a bird? a plane? No, just geeks like us! Up in the rocket! I can fly! Here I come space boy -- Watch me now!

Gonna slash and burn on impact though...nothing can survive what's about to hit the Gates' brothers overly generous web site.

Wow. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714145)

Neat! (come on, mod me up to Score 5: Insightful. I dare you!)

WOW (1)

RAMMS+EIN (578166) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714151)

I'm triply amazed! This is damn hot stuff, good quality video, and the site is still alive! Kudos to the Gates brothers!

If only he wanted to see his pastrami in orbit... (2)

Quaoar (614366) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714155)

...I could finally yell, "Fly lunchbox, fly!"

Wasted money (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714160)

Just look at all the money wasted doing this crap. It's just another example of why we should be taxing the hell out of the rich and giving the money to people that can actually use it.

Re:Wasted money (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714235)

Just move to Sweden!

Here they tax the hell out of everybody.

An old woman living in an old house in an attractive area can't afford to buy a dish washer because that would increase her property tax by about $250 _yearly_. Great!

Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. (5, Interesting)

toybuilder (161045) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714176)

I'd rather see these on prime-time TV than glorified remote-controlled chainsaws destroying each other... The views of the horizon gliding into place is absolutely breathtaking!

Re:Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. (2)

nounderscores (246517) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714229)

I agree. but you can imagine the networks getting hold of it and making the rockets hit each other "for the 12-18 male demographic."

Sigh. It's true. In the TV business the product is not the show that is sold to the viewers; the product is the viewers who are sold to the advertisers.

And people say the moon was a hoax! (1)

deathcloset (626704) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714188)

I hope the monkey cameraman is ok! So what are the laws on space? Can just anybody who wants to ( i.e. has enough cash ) build a rocket and go to space. Supposing, of course the materials to build said spacecraft were not in the several hundred million to billion range? Furthermore, can one send a monkey up? To test things on. In a Zero G environment. I mean, anyone can go up in the air right? With an ultralite, or circus cannon, without a pilots license. Does one need a Space license?

Re:And people say the moon was a hoax! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714250)

try these guys [spaceadventures.com]

Re:And people say the moon was a hoax! (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714263)

"Does one need a Space license?"

Yes you do. You can't legally launch things up randomly in the sky. Hitting a plane at the present time would brand you as a terrorist. The difference is that space angencies "owns" their portion of the sky.

How did they keep that thing balanced? (5, Interesting)

nounderscores (246517) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714211)

With the camera sticking out of the side? Many, many rockets have been totally destroyed from just losing one fin. This series of rockets had a whole fairing bigger than a grapefruit protruding from it and it never tumbled. (except the one which had a parachute failure.)

Question... (3, Interesting)

sifi (170630) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714220)

I'm curious to know: Do you have to get permission to launch these things? or is it a free-for-all
Is there some sort of height limit?
What about the UK (where I live)?

October SKy (1)

katalyst (618126) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714245)

This sounds very similar to the premise of October Sky , a brilliant movie based on a true story about some school kids (from a coal mining town)getting obsessed with rockets and blowing things up in the process; and how ultimately this passion helps them get out of the unescapable coaltown. On of 'em actually made it to NASA. However , all this was sans cameras. So where are these guys going to land up ?

Re:October SKy (1)

JessLeah (625838) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714276)

Well, apparently one of them ended up as head of Xircom... ;)

Re:October SKy (1)

ParrotDroppings (171035) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714278)

or Galileo, by R.A.H. I think...

I wish we could have taped this... (5, Funny)

Malorian (520615) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714248)

A few years ago, a friend had a nasty split with his g/f not to long before Guy Fawkes night and she'd been foolish enough to leave her beloved 'Piglet' cuddly toy...

Piglet was firmly taped to a display firework rocket (one of those damn huge ones), head facing the sky before being fired into the sky. Can you say "Pigs in Spaaaaaaace!" ;)
I wish we could have had a Piglets eye view of it, we kept finding bits of piglet in nearby streets for days :)

Re:I wish we could have taped this... (2, Funny)

Malorian (520615) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714266)

Oh, in case someone tries something similar - don't! At least not anywhere populated!
That thing starting to come back down way too early - we started to get a bit worried as it started to curve back down, luckily it exploded just high enough so that only a few sparks bounced off our roof!
Shout's of 'Pigs in Space' soon turned to 'Shit, INCOMING!!' ;)

Anyone Thinking of "FoxTrot" (4, Funny)

Ronin Jonin (582090) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714251)

I'm sorry, but I'm thinking of those FoxTrot comics where Marcus and Jason attach the video camera to the rocket which upsets the balance and it flies straight at them. Something along those lines happaned to me once.

Great. NOW you did it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714262)

The site exceeded its bandwidth limit.

slashdotted ? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714269)

"503 Service Unavailable
The requested URL Bandwidth is temporarily unavailable."

site been slashdotted ? hehe :p

best regards wimpy

G-forces on the DV camera (3, Insightful)

psychofox (92356) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714274)

What amazes me is that the video camera can still record footage succesfully given the enormous g-forces sustained at takeoff. The clarity of video appears unaffected.

I would have at least expected a bit of flicker as the tape strains, or the motor backtracks a little or something...

Very cool.

Re:G-forces on the DV camera (1)

Erik K. Veland (574016) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714299)

Of the videos I managed to pull down before I got the 503 Slashdotted message, you can see plenty of artifacts on the Jayhawk 2nd flight On board movie. As well as some dirt kicked up by the take off.

Thanks Slashdot... (1, Redundant)

MoThugz (560556) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714294)

for flushing an American company that actually produces something exciting down the bandwidth toilet...

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