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University of Twente NOC Destroyed

michael posted more than 11 years ago | from the debian-users-grief-stricken dept.

News 483

JanJoost writes "Around 08.00 CET today the University of Twente Network Operations Center, which amongst other things hosts a SURFnet PoP as well as security.debian.org and non-us.debian.org, caught fire. The UT, which hosted the HAL in august last year is completely unreachable and is not likely to come back up any time soon. The fire department has given up every hope on protecting the server area and is now trying to protect the surrounding buildings. More information can be found at the Telegraaf, Planet Internet and Twentsche Courant. Pictures can be found here and here. It's a shame to see a great infrastructure go down in flames like this."

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IN SOVIET RUSSIA (-1, Troll)

IN SOVIET RUSSIA (621411) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714518)

First posts get me!

More info (5, Informative)

Strike (220532) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714523)

From debian-devel, here [debian.org] 's a slightly (only slightly) more informative blurb

CNN claims it's a deliberate act! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714556)

CNN claims it's a deliberate act of arseonism. Click here [cnn.com] for details.

Re:CNN claims it's a deliberate act! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714568)

Nice Goatse my friend, very nice.

I predict... (2)

bLanark (123342) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714583)

That in the next year, most new OS documenation and projects will have several URLs built in for all online stuff (gentoo's Portage; TLDP; having a sourceforge page and a mirror, for example).

OS people learn quickly from mistakes like this.

Re:More info (5, Informative)

Stonehead (87327) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714617)

Hey, I posted that to debian-devel. Scary to see it get Slashdot headlines, since this posting [debian.org] from Wichert Akkerman himself is more 'official'.
He's now probably busy setting up klecker.debian.org as the next security.debian.org host. Don't get yourself trojaned, please people, don't panic and just wait for the official Debian announcement that everything has been fixed again. Or play around with inofficial mirrors like [tu-clausthal.de] these [xs4all.nl] , and there are more. But I feel a bit stupid myself, because - unlike Wichert - I have done nothing myself except forwarding the news and act like a karma whore.

not first post! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714524)

not first post! woohoooo

Well Damn... (3, Insightful)

jhines0042 (184217) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714525)

... I hope nobody was hurt.

After that, I wish them luck getting back online.

Re:Well Damn... (2)

Koos (6812) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714585)

I hope nobody was hurt.
All news reports say people were evacuated in time from the building and nobody got hurt.

Funny, I was in this building a few times during the buildup and cleanup of HAL2001 [hal2001.org] . Feels strange now.

Re:Well Damn... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714666)

Not a problem really, less yanks can only be a good thing

Photo's (5, Informative)

fearlezz (594718) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714527)

More images can be found on http://www.bsdfreaks.nl/files/brand.htm

why does this matter? (-1, Troll)

cr@ckwhore (165454) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714529)

Did I miss a memo? Why does this matter? There's a NOC on every street corner these days.. why is this one so special?

Re:why does this matter? (4, Informative)

Sc00ter (99550) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714542)

can you read?

"which amongst other things hosts a SURFnet PoP as well as security.debian.org and non-us.debian.org "

security.debian.org and non-us.debian.org are GONE (well, burning, hopefully data can be recovered). Yes there's mirrors, but it still sucks.

Re:why does this matter? (5, Funny)

brianvan (42539) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714592)

They're not gone. They're just experiencing a Distributed Combustion Denial-of-Service attack.

Re:why does this matter? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714593)

Suck it debian loving cocksmoking pud.

Yeah? Big fucking deal. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714598)

The world doesn't revolve around Lunix mirrors.
You people will survive. Get over it.

Re:why does this matter? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714619)

There are (should be) no mirrors of the security.debian.org ftp site. They want people to get the most recent updates, so they want them to avoid mirroring delays.

Re:why does this matter? (2)

smnolde (209197) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714627)

Time for them to switch to FreeBSD. With mirrors all over the world I don't have to worry about where to go for the source.

However, any fire destroying the building is a *bad* thing and if it's arson I hope they pin his nuts to the wall. I hope the data in the NOC is restored quickly.

Re:why does this matter? (2, Funny)

fearlezz (594718) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714549)

It's the fastest university network in the netherlands, and it's running a lot of mirrors (debian mirrors and others). The most important thing: terabytes of warez. :) (I believe it was the BSA lighting the fire :) )

Re:why does this matter? (3, Funny)

The Dobber (576407) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714636)

Boy Scouts Of America? Which merit badge would that be?

Re:why does this matter? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714652)

"Preventing Software Piracy While Attempting to Endanger Linux Using Homosexuals."

Re:why does this matter? (1)

seosamh (158550) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714555)

From the description it sounds like this is one of the major Debian archives. Not a Debian user, or Dutch speaker, so I'm guessing from the original post.

Keyserver.org (Open PGP network) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714621)

The SURFNet network was the managing server for the Keyserver.org organisation. An open and distributed network for the PGP keys.

Good Luck (0, Redundant)

Brian_rts (87718) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714530)

Hope everyone made it out...

HOW MANY STORIES... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714532)

are in "pending" state currently?? A lot, I know for sure. Timothy and Michael are just waiting for Taco to start checking them out. Timothy, Michael and others don't seem to have permission to publish certain kind of stories. Only Taco can make the decision. And Taco will start publishing stories within like 1 hour. It looks like other slashdot editors are pussies! They are fucking afraid of Taco! Un-fucking-believable.

No Halon? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714535)

Would a Halon (sp?) system have prevented damage in the server room?

Halon is probably illegal today (4, Informative)

mangu (126918) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714602)

Effective as it was, Halon was also a major ozone-hole cause, so it has been outlawed in most countries by now.

Re:Halon is probably illegal today (1)

Porsche_Pilot (527246) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714624)

I beleve that they have stopped production of halon, but their is still stock, just like R12 that used to be used in car A/C. Many people I know have halon extinguishers in their cars, an when I get another air-cooled car it will have a installed halon system .

Re:Halon is probably illegal today (2, Informative)

phil reed (626) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714664)

Wouldn't have helped. A halon system in the server room doesn't do much when the entire building goes up.

In other news (2, Funny)

roguerez (319598) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714536)

Capacity usage of the world largest interconnection lines roughly halved today.

The cause of this is thought to be a steadily decline in warez/divx/mp3 traffic. The underlying reason for that is still unknown.

now the engineers come out... (5, Insightful)

ravidew (456067) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714538)

..to see how this could be prevented in the future. How much fire protection do NOCs owned by the big boys (Verio, WorldCom) have? Offsite backups, too, I hope?

Re:now the engineers come out... (3, Insightful)

Yo Grark (465041) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714591)

After 911 all the big techfirms created DRA's (disaster recovery area's) in case anything major happened.

I had no less than 1000 companies call asking how to handle licensing and DRA's.

I'd be surprised if they didn't have one, it's pretty much standard practice comercially....

Yo Grark

- Canadian Bred with American Buttering

Re:now the engineers come out... (5, Interesting)

rleyton (14248) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714603)

Whilst I'm no expert in fire supression systems, I have studied a few data centres in my time as a Senior Sys Admin for a number of companies. Most (decent) NOC's have a fire *supression* system based on gas or (more likely these days) some form of liquid (gas has the nasty side-effect of potentially killing humans).

These are for small fires that can be contained within a data centre, ie. a computer catching fire or emitting smoke. Really good systems are very localised (racks or cage specific). A big fire just isn't going to be stopped by such a system.

I haven't read too much into this particular incident (ie. not at all), but my initial thought was that something more serious must have happened (well, duh!), perhaps a fire outside of the main suppression system (outside of the raised floor area?). Or perhaps the paint on the walls/carpet wasn't fire resistant and just took hold very quickly.

Or a large initial fire (gas leak?) that just didn't die down when the supression system kicked in. Maybe the type of fire (again, gas? oil?) didn't die down because Data Center supression systems presumably focus on electrical fires.

A well, just my 2p's worth.

Re:now the engineers come out... (5, Interesting)

Martin Blank (154261) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714604)

Most NOCs I've been in have an oxygen-deprivation gas that's dispersed in the case of a fire (after a series of highly visible and audible warnings). The one I'm in right now seems to have gone the inexpensive (and arguably safer) way of a two-stage dry-pipe water sprinkler system where the pipes are usually dry (empty). In case of a smoke detection above a certain level, the pipes are "charged" (filled with water), and if the heat gets above a certain level, the sprinklers go off. Basically, the decision was made that if there's a fire, the equipment will probably need replacement anyway, so why not use sprinklers?

Personally, I'm not too sure of this route. I can understand it, from an environmental and human-safety perspective (the gasses eat the ozone layer, and you *really* don't want to inhale stuff that ties up oxygen at those rates), but if it ever happens here, it's going to be an awfully hurried mess to get everything back up and running in a reasonable timespan, even if the fire is only a small one that doesn't destroy the building.

Re:now the engineers come out... (2)

Angry White Guy (521337) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714640)

Offsite backups are one thing, but in a case of sheer devistation (such as this), it really doesen't help too much. They have to find a building, fiber, computers, cabling, everything to replace it. Backups, although an important part in the puzzle, are ultimately the last, centermost peices.

After all is said and done, the U still has to deal with insurance companies, getting specs for colocated equipment, etc. It's not an easy process (if you've dealt with your insurance company not wanting to pay for a dent in your car, imagine telling them that the dent would cost millions to repair) and I doubt that they will be up and operational in less than 6 months.

I just find it ironic that they put all of their fault-tolerant redundant systems in the same building, only to have it burn down. Distributed computing should mean more than just two computers sitting right next to each other.

All point to... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714540)

Don't get me wrong, but I'm sure that MS did that. As this (Linux) is a community project, I believe this is our best opportunity to knee MS.

English, you insensitive clod! (0, Offtopic)

ArthurDent (11309) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714541)

Hey how about a link in English for those who are unfortunately unilingual?!?

Ben

Re:English, you insensitive clod! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714590)

You mean American?

Lazy commie bastard (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714614)

Don't be such a lazy asshole.
Use a fucking translator.

Re:Lazy commie bastard (2)

zztzed (279) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714649)

I have yet to see any machine translators that will do Dutch to English.

Vunerability (5, Interesting)

e8johan (605347) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714543)

This shows the vunerability of putting all computers in one building. To have a safe network one needs to spread (duplicate) the information over several computer at several locations. How far apart these locations has to be is depending on how important you data is.

It is a shame that a building hosting so many good initiatives should be the one to go, but as always: there is no excuse for not have a backup. By that I don't only mean that tape that always seems to go missing when needed, but multiple sites (or at least buildings) that provide redundancy.

Hmmmm... (0)

charleschuck (97939) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714544)

I hear the next version of ReiserFS is supposed to have protetion for this... :-)

-CM

A good reminder.. (5, Insightful)

Martigan80 (305400) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714545)

To never keep back-ups in the same physical location.

Re:A good reminder.. (5, Insightful)

Zocalo (252965) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714608)

Or even general location for that matter. A friend of mine did disaster recovery work for IBM after the Trade Towers attack. They had their data center in Tower 1 and their backup center in Tower 2. After six weeks of what was essentially scrabbling through rubble they managed to recover a single spindle. The company concerned became another statistic, and part of an important lesson in DR implementation; safety increases with distance.

See also: Common fucking sense! (en/tea) (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714634)

Blah blah blah

Erm... (1)

Apiakun (589521) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714546)

Yowch :( That looks like one hell of a fire. I certainly hope there were recent backups. I'll observe a moment of silence for all that data gone up in smoke, and I suggest a 15 ping salute.

Re:Erm... (2)

Stonehead (87327) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714662)

Hmz. Didn't that get translated? There are no casualties and there are full backups (from last weekend, anyway) from all the student and research servers. For the rest, I don't know - probably not. The damage has roughly been estimated on 23 million euro for the building and 17 million euro for everything that was inside. But the building is still smoking - it's only 6.5 hours ago that the fire started.

Damn! (1)

devilkin (539677) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714548)

I really hope everyone got out ok... Its always a shame to see a NOC go down, especially one of a university where communication is quite vital... DK

So much for server areas never burning down (5, Interesting)

Martin Blank (154261) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714551)

This is something I keep hearing from people, particularly those who balk at paying for upgrades to expensive fire suppression systems. "They're always built so well that there's never been a case of a server room destroyed by fire." I always did doubt that, and now whenever they tell me that, I can point to this.

What a shame.

Re:So much for server areas never burning down (2, Insightful)

CuriousGeorge113 (47122) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714630)

Yes, but did this server room have one of those fancy fire suppression systems? If so, yes, you can point to this an laugh. If it didn't, your friends that always say "Server rooms are never destroyed by fires because of their fire suppression systems." will have the last laugh.

I.E. "See, if they would have had a fire suppression system, this would have never happened."

So... (0)

leecho (627827) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714553)

Debian is not secure anymore?

Re:So... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714574)

made mne laugh so hard

In a related announcement... (5, Funny)

Zocalo (252965) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714558)

The University of Twente's attempts to overclock the new AMD Opteron and Nvidia GeForceFX card in the same case are declared a failure. "We certainly won't be building a Beowolf cluster of these..." commented a spokesperson.

I told them! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714559)

"The room where SURFnet network hardware stands has been given up by firemen."

Never tell the firemen there is only linux geeky stuff on the computers, you need to tell them about your terabytes of porn to get them to work harder.

See what happens when you don't use a bong (1, Funny)

DrSkwid (118965) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714561)

those crazy Dutch and their roaches

Possible cause of fire ... (-1, Offtopic)

Mac73117 (122267) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714563)

Slashdot effect???

Maybe.. (4, Funny)

jedie (546466) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714564)

Someone took "firewall" too seriously? :)
(and this isn't *flame*bait :p)

Well.. (1)

flatface (611167) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714566)

Better submit this one to Bugzilla...

Priorities (5, Insightful)

brianvan (42539) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714567)

Was anyone killed?

If not, was anyone hurt?

If not, do they have insurance?

If they do... well, I'm sure someone just lost their masterpiece pr0n directory, but otherwise, things like this happen. (ask Hemos) You have to make it through such things. In this case, it was a commercial (educational) building and no one is homeless, so it's less of a tragedy than usual. Let's hope that they rebuild with something better and newer.

That said, I get the feeling that those plumes of smoke really are millions of dollars floating away in the wind...

Re:Priorities (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714587)

They'll undoubtedly build it with something newer.

Re:Priorities (5, Informative)

bzzzt (313005) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714641)

No, no and no.

The university doesn't insure itself agains this kind of disaster because they are able to set aside enough money to cover the cost themselves and don't have to pay the insurer's profit.

Now how they are going to deal with this and their financial troubles (they're almost broke) is another issue...

Re:Priorities (1)

nukey56 (455639) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714660)

That said, I get the feeling that those plumes of smoke really are millions of dollars floating away in the wind...

Well, it was mostly a bunch of warez anyways. Warez in the wind.. could be a catch song title.

last syslog messages from SURFnet routers (5, Interesting)

ahu (4707) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714572)

lo0.ar5.enschede1.surf.net 3613: Nov 20 07:20:50.927 UTC: %ENV_MON-2-TEMP: Hotpoint temp sensor(slot 18) temperature has reached WARNING level at 61(C)

few seconds later on the local side:
lo0.cr2.amsterdam2.surf.net 1146: Nov 20 07:20:56.458 UTC: %CLNS-5-ADJCHANGE: ISIS: Adjacency to ar5.enschede1 (POS2/0) Down, interface deleted(non-iih)

Hope they ... (2)

zensonic (82242) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714575)

... got backups. Only fools ditch the backup procedure!

If the actually have backups it's only a matter of money/time before sites will be up'n'running again.

Re:Hope they ... (1)

devilkin (539677) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714584)

Well, let's also hope the backups are stored OFF-SITE! Otherwise they'd also be burned to crisps... DK

Re:Hope they ... (2)

Martin Blank (154261) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714638)

I imagine they were well-insured. On the greed side of things, some major server company is going to report a small spike in Q4/02 server sales in Europe.

"Hi, we need a quote for a few hundred new servers and a couple dozen new routers and switches. Oh, and we need them *now*. Hello? Hello...? Dammit! Another sales rep fainted!"

JIIIIHAAAAAAD!!!!! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714578)

MUHHAMMADS REVENGE!

Re:JIIIIHAAAAAAD!!!!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714632)

go away.

But that's no problem... (1)

jmo_jon (253460) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714579)

But that's no problem, all i need to do is apt_get...

Does this mean that there will be no more apt_get interesting +5 posts in a while?

Halon dumps? (4, Interesting)

wiredog (43288) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714581)

The last time I worked in a NOC, it ran Vaxes, but we had a halon dump. A Big Red Button that got smacked by the last person out of the room. The halon would smother any fire by replacing all the oxygen in the room (which was why the last guy out hit the button). Why wasn't there a halon dump in this NOC? Or, if there was one, what happened?

I hope Debian practices good management principles by having offsite backup.

Re:Halon dumps? (2)

Entrope (68843) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714605)

The blurbs imply ("The fire department has given up every hope on protecting the server area") that the fire originated elsewhere and spread -- fire supression systems are good for fires that start in server rooms, but if somebody puts tinfoil in the microwave next door, the fire may be just too big by the time it gets to the server room.

Re:Halon dumps? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714609)

it looks like the building housing the NOC burned - in other words, halon might have stopped the fire IN the NOC, but when all six walls are burning away, halon (or fm200) can only do so much.

Re:Halon dumps? -- not if the whole building is in (5, Informative)

earthy (11491) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714653)

The fire did not start in the server rooms. What happened was that a fire started in one of the lecture rooms (and a smallish one at that, number A108) that just happened to be in the same wing of the TWRC building that also housed the server rooms (yes, multiple). It then proceeded to take out two entire wings and threaten other buildings nearby as well as the library.

Now, I would *love* to see a halon system capable of stopping that...

Owh, and the fire seems to be under control by now, as evidenced on http://webcam.traserv.com/
(which you can contrast to http://www-infstud.sci.kun.nl/~arthurvl/ispy.jpg (taken at about 09:40 CET this morning)).

Re:Halon dumps? (2)

Martin Blank (154261) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714670)

Depending on whether there was a recent overhaul of the system, Halon is now illegal in most countries. Existing systems were grandfathered in, but new systems are prohibited from using it. I'm not sure which gas replaced it, but I understand that it's incredibly expensive, and not quite as effective. Of course, as has been pointed out, if the fire originated (and thus was fed from) elsewhere, the gas would have been useless once the storage tanks were empty.

Has to be said... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714588)

They should've used a firewall.

Dutch -- English? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714589)

good thing i can read dutch or else all these links would have been useless for me ;-)

Debian Security mirror (5, Informative)

lemmen (48986) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714594)

In case one might be interested, Essent mirrored security.debian.org.

You can use debian.essentkabel.com to download the latest security updates (in case you haven't already). Please note this is NOT an official mirror.

OK, folks, admit it! (5, Funny)

matija (27014) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714595)

Who posted a link to UT's webserver on slashdot?

More Pictures from the webcam (5, Informative)

CuriousGeorge113 (47122) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714596)

Here's some statics taken from their webcam. Someone might want to mirror these before they get slash'd. Webcam PicsPics [traserv.com]

Also, here's what seems to be the only close up I could find of the fire. pics [traserv.com]

OpenSmoke ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714599)

vaporware ? [prout.be]

last syslog entry (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714601)

the last syslog entry from AR5.Enschede1.surf.net to SARA:
Nov 20 08:20:51 lo0.ar5.enschede1.surf.net 3613: Nov 20 07:20:50.927 UTC: %ENV_MON-2-TEMP: Hotpoint temp sensor(slot 18) temperature has reached WARNING level at 61(C) :-)

Enschede is a bad place for fire (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714606)

Two years ago a fireworks explosion leveled several city blocks. What is it with that place?

My Salute! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714611)

> ping -n 21 non-us.debian.org

Pinging non-us.debian.org [130.89.175.34] with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 130.89.175.34:
Packets: Sent = 21, Received = 0, Lost = 21 (100% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

Oh Dear.... (2, Insightful)

Zech Harvey (604609) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714612)


Is there anything that could cause this naturally? I mean, judging from the pictures it looked fairly large and out of control...I hope no one caused this purposefully. I've never had to deal with a catastrophe like this, luckily...I send my best wishes of luck and hope to those involved and pray no one got hurt. =(

Re:Oh Dear.... (2)

BabyDave (575083) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714650)

I hope no one caused this purposefully.
Cue another round of "Bill Gates/MS evil anti-Linux conspiracy" posts ...

Dangerous server rooms (4, Funny)

Bazman (4849) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714616)

Lets hope the place didnt look like this beforehand:


Dangerous server rooms [theregister.co.uk]

Slashdot effect? (1)

lyonsden (543685) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714623)

Is that what happens to a web server when an article housed on it gets posted on Slashdot?

The truth is right here (1)

nukey56 (455639) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714631)

Now, you see, this didn't happen through some random electrical spark or from some warez-eliminating conspiracy, the truth is that this building was just fine -- until it was slashdotted. Those pictures, well, those were posted later on. I mean, seriously, the link probably said "mad warez now!" for the first few minutes, then they changed it and put the fire story up.

Moral of this story: never underestimate the power of the slashdot effect.

Update from SARA (SURFnet NOC) (5, Informative)

mdav (627832) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714633)

Here's an update from SARA (that's where I work), the network operator for SURFnet. SURFnet is very busy ordering new equipment and fixing the 2 x 10 Gbit/s lamda's to Enschede. We hope to restore connectivity a.s.a.p. Greetings, Marco

It must have been Microsoft (5, Funny)

micaiah (593598) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714637)

"Witnesses saw a large balding man monkey dancing from the scene and a slim geeky man with glasses trailing behind continuously adjusting his glasses." An in other news....

LFS mirror affected too (5, Informative)

decarelbitter (559973) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714643)

The Dutch LFS [linuxfromscratch.org] FTP mirror was also hosted at the University of Twente, which means it's also down. The Dutch HTTP mirror should work properly, since it's outside utwente.nl space.
Last news is that HP (Who supplied most of the UT backbone equipment) is on its way with emergency equipment to have things up and running somewhere tomorrow.

At least the fire... (1)

l0wland (463243) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714645)

...was good for something. My DSL d/l-speed doubled after the Cisco's at UT got smoked. :-)

Warning Sounds (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714647)

If you ever smell smoke in a computer enviroment, take it serious! I once was in a computer pool room and only the smell of burning paper made me aware of the fire. Only then i realized a beeping noise, simlar to the noises some computers or cardreaders make to draw maintainace attention towards them.
In that environment an old fashion siren would have been a much better solution.

Oh, well... (2)

larien (5608) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714648)

Time to find out if their disaster recovery procedures work... There'll be a heck of a lot of running around trying to get some kind of infrastructure back in place now, I'd imagine.

The importance of professional hosting... (-1, Flamebait)

laursen (36210) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714655)

"It's a shame to see a great infrastructure go down in flames like this."

That's why we have our servers located in REAL datacenter [ngdc.net] with pro active fire protection, etc.

I wouldn't call it "great" when their entire serverpark can be destroyed by a single fire - a lot of companies today still have their servers located in their own building and often in rooms without any kind of fire extinction ... I do hope that they will be back online again soon.

thank god for mirrors (1)

dspeyer (531333) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714656)

Let this be a lesson to all system archetechts: don't put stuff in only one place -- it could catch fire. With all the debian mirrors out there, I don't expect this to cause all that much trouble (obviously, if people had been hurt, that would be another matter, but apparently everyone got out in time).

Hm.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714659)

Slashdot strikes again?

English translation of the planet internet story (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714667)

A large fire broke out in one of the college buildings at the UT in Enschede. The area has been closed off.

The fire broke out around 8:00 Wednesday morning. Nobody was injured. The fire department evacuated a number of buildings in the immediate area. It's expected that extinguishing the fire will take the rest of the day.

The fire caused damage in the tens of millions of euros in the IT services, among others, revealed (dean? I think) F. van Vught.

Van Vught said that backups of the network information had been made. "All information is saved". Classes will continue this week, due to tests. There were only a few students on the campus area Wednesday. Most test could not proceed on Wednesday.

In the burned building, used by the UT IT department, a part of the Management school was destroyed. The network was known as one of the fastest in Europe. An emergency network is now being deployed.

So there I was (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4714671)

knee deep in welfare checks and empty 40s, with my red Koolaid bait in hand, searching for the illustrious Mountain Nigger.

PGP Keyserver root was hosted by SURFNet (5, Insightful)

Erik_ (183203) | more than 11 years ago | (#4714673)

I believe, the open and distributed network of Keyserver.net (distibuted network of PGP keyservers) was hosted by SURFNet. This network is a distributed network holding PGP and OpenPGP keys. The loss the to UT NOC could have an impact on the updating of key-rings across the keyserver.net network.
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