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Farscape Fans Produce Commercial

CowboyNeal posted more than 11 years ago | from the take-the-power-back dept.

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angst writes "Farscape fans have come together and produced a commercial called 'I am Farscape'. In the hopes of bringing more media and consumer awareness that the fans of this show are not happy that it is being cancelled. So far it will be aired in 24 cities nation wide. Look for it the week of Nov. 24th if you are in the list."

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last episode (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4730146)

last post

Lick (-1)

Bitter Old Man (572131) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730149)

My nuts, Slashfags

Yikes! (2, Funny)

Overand (590318) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730153)

I've seen this commercial, and if anything, it will convince Sci-Fi that Farscape fans are a bunch of untalented fan-boys (and girls) that smell bad, and don't know how to make a commercial. It's... bad.

On the other hand, Farscape is so great that it's taking up 13 gigs of my hard drive... ::blinks innocently::

Re:Yikes! (4, Insightful)

Robotech_Master (14247) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730166)

I dunno...I'd characterize the commercial as "quirky," but not necessarily bad. And in the end, it really doesn't matter how good or bad the commercial is; the important thing is that it's getting aired and getting publicity for the campaign. These people aren't giving up, and if it gets me more episodes of the show, I have to say more power to them. This thing has gone farther than any save-our-show campaign I can recall...it's going to be interesting to see where it ends.

Re:Yikes! (4, Funny)

kingkade (584184) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730167)

I've seen this commercial, and if anything, it will convince Sci-Fi that Farscape fans are a bunch of untalented fan-boys (and girls) that smell bad...

Have that new smell-o-vision, huh?

Re:Yikes! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4730194)

Mirror [yahoo.com] in case it gets ./'ed.

Re:Yikes! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4730198)

Downloading a crappy bad acting sci-fi show under a poorly coded Linux distro. Can we possibly see worst than that? Looking at goatse.cx is not that bad after all.

Re:Yikes! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4730217)

Looking at goatse.cx is not that bad after all.

If you're gonna mention goatse.cx, at least link [goatse.cx] to it!

Up the goats!

Re:Yikes! (1)

morpheus 2001 (594709) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730422)

1000 monkeys with 1000 typewriters could have written a better script in 1000 years than that piece of crap! I am indifferent about Farscape, but that commercial was just awful!!!!

Re:Yikes! (2)

Afrosheen (42464) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730440)

Probably because you didn't click the 20 other links to other clips by other people. I nearly dismissed it too, but the point has been made: people want their Farscape.

There are actually some decent looking chicks, shocker, I know.

Re:Yikes! (2)

cribcage (205308) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730462)

Not to nitpick your obviously-acerbic wit...

But for future reference, if you decide to recycle this witty little quip of yours: The 'hyperbole' you want is actually something more like, "Two drunken, crippled monkeys twisting bananas into each other's buttocks could have spit onto manuscript paper and produced a better script than this garbage."

'Cause, y'know... If a thousand monkeys at a thousand typewriters could type "Hamlet," I'd think they could manage to trump the Bayville Junior High A/V Team's weekend project.

crib

Re:Yikes! (2, Flamebait)

enneff (135842) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730469)

The guy who says "I'm so and so and I build robots for a living," looks like the biggest dickhead ever. He makes me want to never, ever watch Farscape - ever. He makes me associate Farscape with idiocy and social ineptitude.

with this much support (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4730155)

with these many people willing to strongly support it, it makes one wonder why the show is in danger of being cancelled in the first place.

Re:with this much support (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4730159)

Maybe because it isnt all that good, it didnt last long on channel 9

Re:with this much support (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4730216)

Well it must be a good show since I masturbate while watching it.

Re:with this much support (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4730264)

Oh thank god; I'd thought I was the only one!

Re:with this much support (3, Informative)

Dallascaper (590295) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730283)

I assume you are referring to Nine Network in Australia. Nine thought enough of Farscape to help bankroll it with the Jim Henson Company in 1999. Knowing Australia's bleak history with science fiction, Nine waited until May 2000 to broadcast the first half-dozen episodes. The show didn't do well, so Nine decided to put the show up against the 2000 Olympics. No wonder Farscape hasn't done well in Australian ratings.

My experience with Australian Scapers is that they are among the most vocal and intense Farscape fans out there. Last December/January, when Nine finally broadcast the show's second season, my Farscape site got more hits from Australia than from any other country. My point is that Aussie Scapers may be few in number, but they do have excellent taste in television programming.

Long live Farscape!

Dallascaper
Webmaster, http://www.farscapefantasy.com

Re:with this much support (0, Troll)

Binarybrain (253017) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730436)

Because theres only 2 of them. Farscape is the worst scifi I have ever seen.

I hope it works (3, Interesting)

Russellkhan (570824) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730156)

Farscape is/was a great show.

I mean think about it, Enterprise gets funding and Farscape is a far better show (I know, I know, Farscape doesn't have detox gel)

almost (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4730158)

Soon as I saw the story on the front page I knew what awaited inside. Hundreds of posts from zitty geeks trying to be punker-than-thou by coming up with ever-more-obscure namedropping to make up for their lack of real style (or to pretend that they are actually old enough to have been involved). Drop the pretension kiddos. We all know that your Blink 182 CD is older than your copy of Bollocks.

I love how a whole new level of conformity has been created by the average bozo's efforts at individuality. It might almost work if your personal definition of individuality didn't depend so heavily on how you present yourself to others. I mean, what's the sense of being into bullshit like [insert pseudo-non-mainstream hobby here] if you can't talk about it to make yourself superior to your peers?

Kinda sounds like the Linux crowd, huh? "I'm so ALTERNATIVE by patching my kernel every day while you brainwashed Windows sheep meander in unenlightened tedium." Funny to think that if you had back all the time you spent tweaking and patching (for no good reason other than to say you have the latest version), you wouldn't know what to do with the workstation on your desk.

*sigh*

excuse the rant. caffiene has yet to be digested.

Didn't follow the link, eh? (3, Interesting)

Russellkhan (570824) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730336)

  1. The commercial didn't remotely resemble your description.
  2. The only pretension here is yours. There was no namedropping in the commercial, but your first paragraph sure seemed full of it (pun intended).
  3. Just because you don't understand something (because you haven't bothered to try) doesn't mean it's an attempt at individuality.
  4. These people putting their time and money into supporting something they like. Is that too superior for you? Would the world be a better place if everyone took your attitude and just sat back and criticized everyone else if they tried to do something that challenged their tiny little worldview?
  5. Did it ever enter your mind that there are people out there who do things for reasons other than conformity or rebellion? No? Don't worry, in about 10 years, when you hit 25 or so you'll grow out of that attitude.
  6. Not even going to address the Windows/Linux part of your post - it's clear enough that it's nothing but a troll that refutation is unnecessary.

Wow (3, Insightful)

MacAndrew (463832) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730162)

I'd like to see this -- what, no link? -- and have to wonder how Star Trek TOS would have done if it had had *this* kind of rabid support.

But then, how much does Sci Fi care what its hardcore geeks think? There was an interesting article in the Times on how terribly inaccurate the advertising world's obsession with the 25 to 34 demographic is. And it is what the advertisers want, or think they want, that drives commercial programming. (Maybe Farscape should move to HBO -- might even get me to subscribe.)

Re:Wow (2)

MrP- (45616) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730188)

fark had this earlier.. with link to the video

http://www.watchfarscape.com/news/article.php?news id=157 [watchfarscape.com]

the video: http://homepage.mac.com/~beowulf/iamfarscape/ [mac.com] (quicktime)

i dunno if its just the encoding of that video but its hard to hear what they're saying, the music is too loud, hopefully its better when its on tv.

Re:Wow (1, Troll)

DennyK (308810) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730471)

Probably cause it's Quicktime... ;)

"H-h-h-h-h-h-i I'm-m-m-m-m-m-m Joe and I-I-I-I-I-I'm Fars-s-s-s-s-s-scap-p-p-p-p-pe." (By now, the video portion is halfway through the *next* person's speech...)

Or am I the only one who suffers from this Quicktime problem, where the audio skips and repeats like a record the cat used as a scratching post, while the video keeps playing merrily along, getting further and further ahead of the stuttering audio track? ;)

DennyK

Link (2)

MacAndrew (463832) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730205)

A-ha, they do in fact have a link to the commercial itself [mac.com] -- hosted at mac.com, I note with pride. (Yeah, I dropped my account like most people when they started to charge, but still.)

Gee, I'm glad these people are all Farscape, but what does this prove? Also, I suspect they didn't write their own lines other than the [insert name here].

I repeat my earlier "insightful +5" assertion that Farscape rocks [slashdot.org] . It is a professional, cool, well-written alternative to the ST rut and the Star Wars commercial nightmare. And is has real characters people care about. Don't we all want to see the Scarrans whupped?

Why was the show canceled? (5, Insightful)

joshua404 (590829) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730163)

I've seen and read so much from so many fans of this show all over the net, that I keep asking myself - if they have this large and loyal a following, why was this show canceled? What were the ratings like? What was Sci-Fi's reasoning? I don't exactly see a plethora of good original programming on that channel, so why kill off one of the few successes?

Re:Why was the show canceled? (2)

Twirlip of the Mists (615030) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730227)

To put it bluntly, it was canceled because it really began to stink. I mean really. The first two-and-a-half seasons were outstanding, but things really took a dive after that.

As much as it pains me to admit it-- I used to be such a gianormous fan-- it's a good time for Farscape to go.

Re:Why was the show canceled? (1)

nukem1999 (142700) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730229)

"It cost too much"

You think they coulda figured that out before they decided to sign on for 2 more seasons, and in the end only delivering on one.

Re:Why was the show canceled? (5, Informative)

Robotech_Master (14247) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730232)

There are several reasons given, depending on who you ask and when. Among the big ones are:

Too expensive: The show costs an awful lot to produce, as SF shows tend to, and apparently Sci-Fi's in a bit of a money crunch. The high production cost wouldn't be so bad, except...

They don't own the show; Henson does, as part of the production agreement (though they each finance half the show's cost). Which means SFC doesn't get the back-end income from syndication and DVD/video and such to recoup their costs. Adding to the problem is the fact that...

The show's fandom isn't expanding: Farscape is keeping the fans it has, but it's not causing more people to come to watch the show. See, that's the problem with shows that build up a lot of backstory...if you haven't watched the first four seasons, you have no idea what's going on. (This problem has been noted in other mega-arc-based shows, such as Andromeda.) SFC wants shows that suck more people in (and get them watching SFC). And finally, it's been said that...

SFC is supposedly moving away from "space-based" shows and heading more toward the "paranormal," in keeping with the latest fads/trends in the TV people are watching. Which makes you wonder why they even bother calling themselves "sci-fi," but there you go.

Re:Why was the show canceled? (2)

FeloniousPunk (591389) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730280)

SFC is supposedly moving away from "space-based" shows and heading more toward the "paranormal," in keeping with the latest fads/trends in the TV people are watching. Which makes you wonder why they even bother calling themselves "sci-fi," but there you go.
I thought the whole paranormal craze tanked with the last few seasons of X-Files? I've been in Europe for a while so I'm out of touch with what's going on back home though, so I could be wrong.

Re:Why was the show canceled? (1)

pediddle (592795) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730370)

Just to get my 2 cents in, I thought the first few seasons of the X-Files were based much more strongly on paranormal plots. The last few seasons focused more on the alien conspiracy. Or maybe that was your point?

Re:Why was the show canceled? (1)

Babbster (107076) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730397)

I think you are probably right that the paranormal isn't drawing the people it used to. Then again, TV executives are probably only just now catching up to what people wanted five years ago. Then YET again, I'm probably a prototypical geek who is too much into the scifi and video game niche that I am completely out of touch with the mainstream, too.

Re:Why was the show canceled? (5, Insightful)

DarkZero (516460) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730349)

I've seen and read so much from so many fans of this show all over the net, that I keep asking myself - if they have this large and loyal a following, why was this show canceled? What were the ratings like? What was Sci-Fi's reasoning?

Simple economics. The show was expensive to produce, so it needed a large audience in order to justify its existence. Its audience began to decrease, so it started bleeding huge amounts of money every week, and with a budget that high, it probably wouldn't have taken very long for the show to hit the point where it would have to do extremely well on a consistent basis for one or two full seasons just to become profitable again.

But even though that's their reason for doing it, it's still a very stupid reason. As Matt Roush from TV Guide pointed out, Farscape was the only thing that ever got the Sci-Fi Channel any national exposure in the entire history of the channel, and it got it quite a bit of national exposure too. Farscape was the only reason that the Sci-Fi Channel was ever mentioned in TV Guide, Entertainment Weekly, and all of the other national entertainment magazines, and it also got them exposure for their other shows because they from "the channel that brought us Farscape".

It's just a simple, familiar matter of someone basing a decision on nothing but raw statistics and not thinking about all of the other elements involved.

This has been done before (4, Interesting)

packeteer (566398) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730164)

with mixed sucess... i know freaks and geeks fans tried to get it back on but they werent successful... does anyone know of any shows that did comeback this way?

Re:This has been done before (5, Informative)

Minna Kirai (624281) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730211)

Now I feel really old. Kids today... no attention to history.

Heard of Star Trek? The campaign [trekplace.com] that ressurected the cancelled original series is what inspires all of these latter-day fan-intervention imitators.

Re:This has been done before (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4730230)

Roswell got another season due to a tabasco campaign. The aliens were partial to tabasco sauce and sent little bottle to the studio.

I can't remember but I think Once & Again had a viewer/fan driven extension.

Star Trek, of course, was the ultimate "saved" show, if just for one more season.

Typically where these work they fail because the network then tries to "tweak" a show to bring in more ratings and destroys it by making it something it never was meant to be (see also SeaQuest DSV -> SeaQuest 2032).

Re:This has been done before (2)

DarkZero (516460) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730367)

Star Trek. Once and Again, for a time. Roswell, for an additional season on another network. Forever Knight, which was revived twice after it was cancelled after both its first and second seasons. I'm pretty sure Buffy the Vampire Slayer was, because tons of mail was sent to UPN urging them to pick it up after The WB dropped it after its fifth season. And I'm also pretty sure that the Freaks and Geeks campaign sort of worked... weren't previously unaired episodes aired after the campaign, completing the first season?

This is done every time a show is cancelled. The difference is that only the shows with a truly dedicated fanbase survive. Farscape might have that.

Re:This has been done before (3, Informative)

Babbster (107076) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730410)

Good examples except one: Buffy the Vampire Slayer was dropped because Mutant Enemy wanted more money per episode than the WB was willing to pay - UPN picked it up before any groundswell of fandom had a chance to build up. No fan intervention necessary. UPN felt that they needed more than one franchise show (Enterprise), so they were willing to pay the green necessary. The WB, on the other hand, still had Angel to keep a lot of Buffy fans watching, Smallville getting a following, and had Birds of Prey in their sights (a WB property via DC, as is Smallville) - I think they figured BoP would meet their "hot fighting chick(s)" requirement.

really, now.... (3, Insightful)

nostromo_42 (130573) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730170)

In many of those cities, the ad may air only once, and it may be in the middle of the night on an undisclosed channel.

would it take that much extra work for them to specify which channel, or at least which network it's an affiliate of? i'm a little skeptical of the claim that "it doesn't matter what channel", since the mainstream media isn't exactly going to rush out headline stories about this unless people see it.

Awareness (3, Funny)

faeryman (191366) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730171)

I walk around in leather and say I'm a Peacekeeper and try and drum up interest in the show. It doesn't work that well though..people just smack my ass, so I'm all for the new TV commercial to succeed in getting people interested.

how it will be saved (5, Interesting)

Drunken Coward (574991) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730173)

Apparently, the only way Farscape will be saved is if UPN picks it up for season five. This will only happen if the remaining season four episodes get high ratings, which doesn't seem likely without publicity. So write to UPN and encourage non-geek friends (or those who happen to have Nielson boxes in their homes) to watch the show.

Re:how it will be saved (0, Flamebait)

kingkade (584184) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730207)

Well, one sure way to have UPN pick it up is to change the cast of characters entirely to African American actors.

Then again, they do carry Enterprise...

Re:how it will be saved (1)

Hummercash (547159) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730270)

UPN was supposed to pick up Family Guy too, but it never happened. Too bad, FG RULES! Guess I'll just have to wait for the FG 3 season box set ;) .//chris

Nielson and digital cable... (2)

Sarcasmooo! (267601) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730281)

Does anyone happen to know whether or not digital cable customers get factored in when they measure ratings these days? I mean, I know they watch what the customers are watching. Why wouldn't it be?

No Ellen. (1)

SYFer (617415) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730178)

Julie is no Ellen.

They need a catchier line (2, Funny)

DarkHelmet (120004) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730179)

That just won't do... How about:

Farscape:
Because botox on vulcans is illogical.

It's very ironic (5, Interesting)

JessLeah (625838) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730184)

that the first "grassroots" (as opposed to "astroturf" ;) ) protest commercial I've ever heard of involves Farscape. I've heard a lot of good things about this show-- but still, where are the "the environment is going to pot and the politicians don't care" protest commercials.. or the "drug companies are keeping patents to life-saving AIDS and cancer drugs under lock and key, while millions die" protest commercials?

I'd love to hear about (I'll never see it unless someone puts it online, since I don't own a TV, nor do I want one) MORE protest work on TV. It's about time that the "little guys/gals" claimed their piece of the television pie. Nowadays, it seems that 90% of the content on TV is dictated by the Fortune 500 companies...

Does anyone know of any other efforts to produce true 'grassroots' commercials like this?

Personally, I would love to see a grassroots commercial that advocates re-opening the Federal case against MS. But hey, that's 'cuz I'm one of those evil Unix lovers your mom warned you about.

Is there a 'grassroots marketing forum' anywhere?

Re:It's very ironic (2)

packeteer (566398) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730296)

Nowadays, it seems that 90% of the content on TV is dictated by the Fortune 500 companies...

hate to break it to you but its about 3 companies that own 90% of it all... kinda gross...

i wonder if one company owns more than 1% of all the web content?

Re:It's very ironic (2)

JessLeah (625838) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730325)

Unfortunately, it's not really relevent what percentage of the Web is owned by any given c orporation (or set of corporations). What's relevent is what percentage of total minutes/page views of actual Web surfing time of any given body of users is spent on corporate sites.

I have a sneaking suspicion that there are millions of people out there who wake up in the morning, read their (AOL) e-mail, go to www.cnn.com (also owned by AOL) to get their news, go off to work and read msnbc.com (Microsoft) and time.com (more AOL), occasionally dipping into si.com (yet more AOL). Then they go home and load up their copy of AOL Instant Messenger (no, not Trillian, not gAIM-- the actual real deal from AOL, complete with annoying adverts) and chat with their friends, who tell them about something they read in (insert AOL-owned magazine) today...

And so on, and so on.

I'm sure that somewhere in the US, there is a person who gets 95 or more percent of all the information they partake of (in media form, perhaps even including movies) from AOL/Time Warner.

Re:It's very ironic (3, Informative)

packeteer (566398) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730375)

AOL/Time Warner is very bad but there are 6 coprorations that is considered to own pretty much all media the average american gets. AOL/Time Warner, Viacom, News Corp., Disney, General Electric and Bertelsmann are the companies in no order. 5 years ago it was about 10 companies and 20 years ago there was 50. You can find a list [cjr.org] of who owns what in the world of big business. Just look at the freakishly long list that is owned by only Viacom [cjr.org] .

It makes me glad i dont watch tv. Although slashdot is no suppliment for an all enclusive news source it sure fills the most time of my news reading in a day.

Re:It's very ironic (3, Insightful)

JessLeah (625838) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730487)

And even sicker is that anyone who dares protest this state of affairs is branded a "communist" or a "hippie".

This is not how capitalism is supposed to be.

We need a sound balance of capitalism and socialism-- and a heavy dose of fairness. Unfortunately, lots of people do not have the Buddha-nature and are quite selfish and greedy. (And I'm sorry, I don't care how much of your $billions you gave away to charity, BillG, wanting/insisting upon 100% market share in every market you touch does make you "quite selfish and greedy").

Re:It's very ironic (2)

indiigo (121714) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730356)

http://www.adbusters.org

The have tried several times to get spots on CNN and other media formats, with very little reception.

Re:It's very ironic (1)

JessLeah (625838) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730366)

If they're getting little reception, maybe they should adjust the rabbit ears on the TV... (DUCKS)

Okay, okay, dated joke ;)

Sad news ... Stephen King dead at 55 (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4730190)


I just heard some sad news on talk radio - Horror/Sci Fi writer Stephen King was found dead in his Maine home this morning. There weren't any more details. I'm sure everyone in the Slashdot community will miss him - even if you didn't enjoy his work, there's no denying his contributions to popular culture. Truly an American icon.

Natural selection... (1)

GundyRage (611514) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730193)

...pays no attention to commercials.

Commercial Will Reach Wrong Audience (3, Insightful)

fuzdout (585374) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730196)

Unfortunately for the FS fans, more than likely their efforts won't work and if anything cause a lot of snide and humorous jokes about their commercials on SNL, Jay leno and such. Even if simply because the lack of quality.

It's nice that they are willing to try and make a point about their dedication but it probably will just reach the average TV viewers and NOT anyone in control of FS's life-span.

Re:Commercial Will Reach Wrong Audience (2)

Sarcasmooo! (267601) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730406)

A TV commercial trying to publicize the search for a TV network to save farscape.......that has to be approved and aired by TV networks.......won't reach the right people.....?

jesus h christ (-1, Troll)

Stalyn (662) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730200)

its just a damn tv show. There is thing called reality and you can like do shit with it. What is it called... oh yeah... get a life.

Re:jesus h christ (0)

Stalyn (662) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730212)

by the way Get A Life was one hell of a tv show.. man i was so pissed when it got cancelled. Anyone know if they show reruns?

Get A Life (0, Offtopic)

Soulslayer (21435) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730299)

No, but I won the local spelling bee by smearing toxic waste on myself.

Excuse me, my second mouth is hungry again and the police are trying to forcefully evacuate me from my home.

Re:Get A Life (1)

Stalyn (662) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730309)

thank god I finally found someone on slashdot that makes some sense.

Re:Get A Life (1)

Soulslayer (21435) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730323)

hehe Get A Life was a very amusing show. They did surreal vicious humor long before the Simpson's made it popular. :)

Anyone that can appreciate the twist humor of "Get A Life" is cool in my book.

Re:Get A Life (1)

Joe Tie. (567096) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730390)

I finally found someone on slashdot that makes some sense.

I used to, before the two headed zombies that look like Sharon got one too many bites out of the old brain. Well, that or the wheelbarrow shrimp.

Re:jesus h christ (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4730218)

hi joseph, long time no talk. i thought you were dead.

Re:jesus h christ (0, Troll)

Stalyn (662) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730228)

thats what i wanted you to think. no wait i wanted you to think i was straight not dead.

Re:jesus h christ (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4730241)

Well then you should've gotten rid of that fruity moustache long ago -- that thing screamed 'i am gay'.

Re:jesus h christ (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4730295)

hey!, who here denies that joseph stalins moustache was really gay?! who?! huh??!!! that's what i thought, damn it!! Why, we only need to look toward tom selleck, einstein, and janet reno to validate my theory! qed!

Farscape - kill it now (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4730254)

Revive instead:

-UFO
-Earth: Final Conflict
-Space 1999
-Babylon 5
-Space Precinct
-Quark
-First Wave

Re:Farscape - kill it now (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4730260)

Wow, all those shows suck as well. Get some taste you dick.

Misleading commercials (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4730206)


They should be saying "I am faggot."

Re:Misleading commercials -- wrong (0, Flamebait)

kingkade (584184) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730231)

'You are dickhead.'

You forgot the indefinite article, you worthless fuckwit.

I am absolutely disgusted (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4730224)

Farscape is a program that has been on for years and uses computer generated sequences created on GNU/Linux machines.

GNU/Linux, as you know, is an operating system that uses many GPL'd tools provided by GNU. Considering that these same tools are used to help create the show Farscape, should the program not be called GNU/Farscape?

Someday in the future... (1)

T. Will S. Idea (463154) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730226)

People will talk about what sheep we used to be, sitting in front of the television and waiting for whatever crap the networks chose to shovel in our direction. And then came cable; the internet; Tivo; grass roots fan sites; leeching our favorite episodes from usenet, IRC and p2p...

The day of the networks and the suits is over. Soon, very soon we the consumers will be in control.

losers (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4730234)

no doubt that these people are hardcore losers

Only fools would pass on picking up this show (5, Insightful)

blincoln (592401) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730237)

Seriously, has *any* series ever gotten this kind of rabid support? Even Babylon 5 didn't inspire loyalty on the same level.

Since I don't have cable, I never saw FarScape, but any marketing department in their right mind would kill to have fans so willing to spend their money on a given product that they'd pay for their own ads to be aired.

If SciFi was concerned about profitability, they should have started cranking out the merchandise, because this is a bunch of people who are obviously willing to put their money where their mouths are.

pffft.. Farscape fans... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4730255)

Farscape fans's lack of professional ethics has become so flagrant that it merits your complete attention. By way of introduction, let me just say that it scares the bejeezus out of me to know that Farscape fans might turn over our country to what I call besotted airheads sooner or later. If you doubt this, just ask around. I and Farscape fans part company when it comes to the issue of metagrobolism. It feels that everything it says is utterly and entirely true, while I suspect that we are at a crossroads. One road leads into the light of a bright, shining future in which noisome couch potatoes like Farscape fans are totally absent. The other road leads into the darkness of isolationism. The question, therefore, is: Who's driving the bus? The answer is quite simple. I already listed several possibilities, but because Farscape fans lacks the ability to remember beyond the last two seconds of its existence, I will restate what I said before, for its sake: It should not annihilate a person's personality, individuality, will, and character. Not now, not ever. How can we trust Farscape fans if it doesn't trust us? We can't. And besides, its exegeses are rife with contradictions and difficulties; they're thoroughly despicable, meet no objective criteria, and are unsuited for a supposedly educated population. And as if that weren't enough, if we expose the connections between the sex-crazed problems that face us and the key issues of vigilantism and snobbism, then the sea of obscurantism, on which it so heavily relies, will begin to dry up. To put it another way, I'm sticking out my neck a bit in talking about Farscape fans's ideologies. It's quite likely it will try to retaliate against me for my telling you that if it feels ridiculed by all the attention my letters are bringing it, then that's just too darn bad. Farscape fans's arrogance has brought this upon itself.

I don't have time to go into this in as much detail as I should, but an organization that wants to get ahead should try to understand the long-range consequences of its reinterpretations of historic events. Farscape fans has never had that faculty. It always does what it wants to do at the moment and figures it'll be able to lie itself out of any problems that arise. If natural selection indeed works by removing the weakest and most genetically unfit members of a species, then Farscape fans is clearly going to be the first to go. In that respect, we can say that there are few certainties in life. I, not being one of the many obscene adulterers of this world, have counted only three: death, taxes, and Farscape fans announcing some devious thing every few weeks.

Notice the pusillanimous tendency of Farscape fans's deeds. I don't normally want to expose anyone to rigorous sarcasm, satire and disdain, but Farscape fans surely deserves it. It has been said that Farscape fans has been a faithful servant of dodgy interests for as long as I can remember. That makes sense to me. I believe it's true. But it sincerely implies that Farscape fans undeniably needs to stop living in a fool's paradise. End of story. Actually, I should add that honor means nothing to it. Principles mean nothing to it. All it cares about is how best to promote the subversive expositions of insane saboteurs. Still, the issue of what to do about Farscape fans's hate-filled, power-drunk inveracities is far from settled. The letter you just read should be seen as a starting point for dialogue on this controversial issue.

The Story So Far... (5, Interesting)

Soulslayer (21435) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730263)

Strange Horizons [strangehorizons.com] had a great write-up [strangehorizons.com] on the corporate shuffling that has killed Farscape.

Personally I think Vivendi-Universal/Sci-Fi Channel has sorely miscalculated the resolve of the highly technical and intelligent Farscape fanbase. Despite the explosion of tech industry careers at all levels and the susequent rise in demand for genre programming no one has really provided quality television for them. The watchable genre shows can be counted on one hand. Of them Farscape was the most consistently daring and well written, appealing to wide (by sci-fi standards) demographic. I don't think Vivendi and company realized exactly how attached this fairly ignored market segment felt to that show. The longer they hold out, the more foolish they look.

Expletive Deleted (0, Offtopic)

wahay (12517) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730275)

We have laws in this country which allow prior restraint of publication for materials which a company claims it has a copyright for. The government is building a database of information about you, run by a convicted felon, in order to protect your "safety". The FBI confiscates the computers of your neighbors when the cable company accuses them of service theft. Habeas Corpus is suspended for U.S. citizens who are accused of 'terrorism', while the C.I.A. uses unmanned drones firing missiles to assassinate 'terrorists' that have been tried in no court of law. The country is run by a man who was elected purely by fraud, and the news media doesn't bother to report that in the 2002 elections (this month!) more than 100,000 legal ballots weren't counted in Florida (again!).

So, erm, yah. Farscape Rocks! It shouldn't be canceled. I love the cute girls in tight outfits and funny muppets. And Crichton is so funny when he quotes pop culture while talking to the imaginary gimp in his head. LETS MARCH THROUGH THE STREETS! We need Farscape back on air more than anything else. It is the most important thing ever.

Re:Expletive Deleted (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4730317)

So what's your point?

Farscape (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4730303)

I think I speak for all of us who looked at the headline and thought -

Farscape? WTF is that?

and upon reading the blurb -

Who the hell cares about stupid TV show?

I have a nielson box (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4730328)

but im not watching that SHITTY show!

hahaha

FUCKERS!

Oh good Lord, isn't there a more worthwhile cause? (0, Offtopic)

TrekCycling (468080) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730339)

I mean, seriously. The govt. is spying on us now more than ever. The 4th Ammendment is being shredded. John Poindexter, a convicted felon, is now in charge of a major govt. spy project. Pigs are flying, Microsoft's off without even a slap on the wrist, we're about to go to war with Iraq and nerds are spending money to try to get Farscape back on the air. Am I missing something about the importance of Farscape? Clearly I must be, because I can think of... oh.... a million things more important.

FarStoned (4, Funny)

Ehsan (606618) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730340)



I was like.. watching a show.. on the tv... and it was like boom.. and then like.. the show was gone.. and I was like hmm? it devoured devoured.. my show.. and it was a really good show and I had to watch another show and it wasn't as good..

it's kind of..

.. a bummer

A show? (5, Funny)

jonr (1130) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730346)

An excerpt from the pilot:
Crais is the captain of a command carrier ship belonging to a military empire known as Peacekeepers. Peacekeepers are an oppressive, human-like species known for keeping "peace" and "stability" with the use of brutality and military cunning. One of their jobs is the assassination and imprisonment of political dissidents and trouble makers.

Hmm... haven't I seen this somewhere else recently...

That's a very small focus of the show. (2)

Sarcasmooo! (267601) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730381)

It's mostly centered around the predicament of John Crichton, who goes from a confused good guy lost in space, to a good guy wanting to get home, to a good guy pushed to the brink of insanity by enemies he never wanted to make, to a man pushed too far that'll do just about anything to get home, to a sort of apathetic guy who lost his way and doesn't care what happens, and finally the cynical hero type trying to get the job done.

That's my synopsis anyway, and what I really think makes the show great. Then again, I just eat that kinda stuff up. To me it's Dirty harry, John McClain......Mel Gibson in Lethal Weapon 1.

i think u miss the poster's point... (0)

zonker (1158) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730492)

he was making a crack at the current bush administration... not at the show.

This has to be said... (1, Insightful)

SaxMaster (95691) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730355)

GEEKIEST COMMERCIAL EVER

Seriously, I've watched maybe 1 episode of Farscape. Its a fine show, but (1)It's not the last time that a good scifi series will air (2) There are MANY other causes (insert ANY anti-war/hunger/etc... effort here) that are far more worthy of the kind of attention that this TV SHOW is garnering. Fence-sitting junk like this is why I cant stand slashdot sometimes.

Their Eyes Are Bigger Than Their Airwaves... (5, Insightful)

cribcage (205308) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730363)

Another show which boasts rabidly loyal fan support bites the dust. Just yesterday, Comics2Film reported rumors that the Batman-inspired "Birds Of Prey" won't be renewed by the WB network.

These networks need some perspective. They're never going to be NBC, and they're never going to produce "Friends." The absolute best they can hope for is to attract a couple of million die-hard fans, who tune in week after week -- guaranteeing a specific demographic to sell to advertisers.

So, "FarScape" only attracted a bunch of geeks and nerds. That's what's called a "high-saturation demographic." Sure, it's not very appealing to advertisers trying to sell basketball shoes; but for the company selling video games, or computer software, or pocket protectors...advertising on "FarScape" is money well-spent. You're pitching to an audience which might be 90% favorable to your product -- as opposed to betting on the more mixed demographics watching, say, "Trading Spaces" or "Emeril Live."

Old marketing adage: Figure out your strength, and play it. As long as these cable channels keep trying to compete with The Big Three, they're going to keep tripping over themselves.

crib

Re:Their Eyes Are Bigger Than Their Airwaves... (1)

Slowping (63788) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730457)

It's also possible that the execs realize their demographic are the geeks and nerds, and are using this as a publicity stunt to get more geeks to watch. What better advertisement than getting this on Slashdot and having thousands of other geeks to start watching because of a Slashdot story?

- Fake cancellation
- Get huge grassroots effort
- Raise awareness in the very type of people that would want to watch this show (ie geeks and nerds)
- Bring it back at the last minute, citing the grassroots effort
- People cheer and watch even more avidly
- People buy newly released merchandise to support the show even more
- Profit

I can only speak for Farscape, which really is a good show. I have also seen "Birds of Prey"... and... meh... very mediocre and unimaginative.

Re:Their Eyes Are Bigger Than Their Airwaves... (1)

ParrotDroppings (171035) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730489)

Demographic, Schmemographic...

A BIG ThankYou to the BBC for not interrupting a good show with smarmy commercials

Alcoholics Anonymous (3, Funny)

Cheese Cracker (615402) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730382)

Did someone else get the feeling of an AA meeting when you watched the I Am Farscape commercial? [mac.com]

coming to a grocer near you (3, Funny)

!splut (512711) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730386)

Did anyone else interpret that headline as announcing a Farscape-sponsored commercial for fruits and veggies?

"Farscape oranges. They're out of this world."

Money, and all things like it (5, Funny)

Thenomain (537937) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730411)

Personally, I wish these people could have saved the money in advertising costs to bribe a UPN exec. From looking at the commercials, it'd have to be a lower exec, maybe a kid in the mail room, but I think the money could have been better spent.

Different applications of the same concept (5, Insightful)

shivianzealot (621339) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730412)

I'm sitting here wondering why we Slashdotters aren't raising money to air our own awareness ads regarding DMCA, SSSCA, and other Bad Things. We need a geek lobby. Now.

LEXX (2)

_ph1ux_ (216706) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730413)

All i could think of (and was hoping to see) was Xenia Seeberg [xeniaseeberg.biz] from Lexx - when she does that commercail "This is Sci-Fi"

Jeebus this girl is hot.

the commercial is a success! (3, Funny)

herrd0kt0r (585718) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730433)

this commercial has already converted one person to tune in to farscape. how?

all i gotta say is that if that graphic designer chix0r is farscape, then _i_ wanna be farscape too!

Commercials.. (4, Interesting)

[cx] (181186) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730452)

I've seen commercials for Farscape made by people who _MADE_ the show and I wasn't interested. Some fan effort is going to lack funds, and therefore lack the effects and quality of the actual commercial(s).

I hope that people find more innovative ways of trying to revive their old shows that quickly become cancelled because of the niche audience's problem with weekly viewing.

I personally think the old spider man needs some new episodes, but is that going to happen? NO. If i made a commercial would anyone care? No.
Maybe slashdot, but i think anything that goes away that was once nerdy and "unique"(same as the rest of those nerdy shows) is front line head page just to rally even more support to a lost cause.

My advice, save the time, farscape didnt cut it. wait for the next show you like to come out and watch it get cancelled.

Babylon 5 showed me that it doesn't matter how insanely popular a show is, it won't last.

[cxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

The clear ringing sound of common sense. (2, Insightful)

peterpi (585134) | more than 11 years ago | (#4730481)

Surely the TV companies know what's making them money and what's not? If the show was as good as all these fanatics claim it was then it wouldn't be getting canned in the first place.

Farscape is lame, I mean was (yay!) (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4730483)

Stop watching stupid TV shows.
Grow up. Fer gods sake! Go to the library and check out some decent literature or a decent movie or pick up a nerdy blonde with cute glasses and far her scape repeatedly.

Do anything but continue to watch the pre-digested garbage that is constantly pumped into your eye sockets by the cable/broadcast media establishment.
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