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Shacknews Holiday Game Guide

CowboyNeal posted more than 11 years ago | from the shopping-made-easier dept.

Games 135

rosewood writes "Shacknews' Jason Bergman, aka loonyboi has his 'Holiday Buying Guide 2002' up and ready to read. PC, Gamecube, PS2, Xbox, and Gameboy Advance and over 70 games are covered! You can also look up how other games have rated each game at Shackreviews." Not every game is touched on in-depth, but it's a great resource to narrow down the choices for that special gamer in your life.

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FP (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4783773)

Fork Pork!

Is Santa a Slashdot reader? (5, Funny)

natron 2.0 (615149) | more than 11 years ago | (#4783778)

I have forwarded the link to Santa.

According to my Echelon records... (3, Funny)

Father Christmas (630381) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784427)

... you've been browsing too much pr0n.

All you'll be getting a sack full of Daikatana demo CDs.

Ho ho ho.

What i wnat (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4783785)

Linux for game cube.

3 game cubes that can run Linux (and 1 that can't) (2, Interesting)

yerricde (125198) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784989)

So you want "Linux for game cube". You didn't specify "Nintendo" or capitalize "GameCube". Thus, any generic "game cube" is OK.

First of all, a "game cube" with a similar architecture to Nintendo's, the Power Macintosh G4 Cube, can run Yellow Dog Linux [] .

This roughly cube-shaped gaming PC [] and this even smaller PC [] can probably run Mandrake.

Now, if you're looking for Linux on a Nintendo GameCube console, you're out of luck: that's the only one that can boot only from a completely proprietary storage medium. There's currently no way to get homebrew code to run on the thing. If it could boot off one of the ports on the bottom (like the GBA can), the situation would be somewhat different.

Re:3 game cubes that can run Linux (and 1 that can (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4785084)

Hey cocksmack, you're assuming that there are any games worth anyone's attention on teh lunix. Choke on my balls and the cum that dribbles down my asscrack.

Re:3 game cubes that can run Linux (and 1 that can (1)

yerricde (125198) | more than 11 years ago | (#4785161)

you're assuming that there are any games worth anyone's attention on teh lunix.

Assuming you have the appropriate cartridges and cart readers, you can run almost all NES, Game Boy, Super NES, Sega Genesis, and Game Boy Advance games on Linux through emulation.

Let me save the editors some time... (5, Funny)

tmark (230091) | more than 11 years ago | (#4783790)

In other news....
- Wired released their holiday gift guide.
- ThinkGeek releases their holiday gift guide
- Tom's Hardware releases their holiday gift guide
- Scientific American releases their holiday gift guide
- Popular Mechanics releases their holiday gift guide
- Business 2.0 releases their holiday gift guide
- Anime Weekly releases their holiday gift guide
- Hello Kitty World magazine releases their holiday gift guide
and finally....
- Slashdot releases their holiday gift guide

Re:Let me save the editors some time... (2)

brianvan (42539) | more than 11 years ago | (#4783929)

Links, please.

(because I got on line at Best Buy at 4am on the day after Thanksgiving, and after the shopping spree that ensued, there is absolutely nothing left on my wish list that I can think of at the moment...)

Re:Let me save the editors some time... (1)

PaulGrimshaw (605950) | more than 11 years ago | (#4783931)

The Holiday Gift Company releases their holiday gift guide comparison guide ...

Slashdot Holiday Gift Guide (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4784181)

As JeffK would put it...

Lunix, Lunix, LUNIX!!!

Why Microsoft Sux0rz (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4783801)

Microsoft produce shitty software, that's a given. But do you know the real reason why?

It's simple. As with any large corporation in the Politically Correct climate of the United States, Microsoft have to comply with 'equal opportunities' recruitment policies. This means that at least 25 percent of its workforce comprises of niggers and the mentally handicapped.

With those sort of odds, it's a wonder that ANY line of code coming out of Redmond works.

The Art of Cunniligus (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4783802)

Hey, I have a lot of respect for all you guys who like to eat pussy because there are too few of you out there. And I'm not the only woman who says this. Furthermore, some of you guys who are giving it the old college try are not doing too well, so maybe this little lesson will help you out. When a woman finds a man who gives good head, she's found a treasure she's not going to let go of him too quickly. This is one rare customer and she knows it. She won't even tell her girlfriends about it or that guy will become the most popular man in town. So, remember, most guys can fuck, and those who can usually do it satisfactorily, but the guy who gives good head, he's got it made.

Most women are shy about their bodies. Even if you've got the world's most gorgeous woman in bed with you, she's going to worry about how you like her body. Tell her it's beautiful, tell her which parts you like best, tell her anything, but get her to trust you enough to let you down between her legs. Now stop and look at what you see.
Beautiful, isn't it?

There is nothing that makes a woman more unique than her pussy.

I know. I've seen plenty of them. They come in all different sizes, colors and shapes; some are tucked inside like a little girl's cunnie and some have thick luscious lips that come out to greet you. Some are nested in brushes of fur and others are covered with transparent fuzz. Appreciate your woman's unique qualities and tell her what makes her special. Women are a good deal more verbal than men, especially during love-making. They also respond more to verbal love, which means, the more you talk to her, the easier it will be to get her off. So all the time you're petting and stroking her beautiful pussy, talk to her about it.

Now look at it again.

Gently pull the lips apart and look at her inner lips, even lick them if you want to. Now spread the tops of her pussy up until you can find her clit. Women have clits in all different sizes, just like you guys have different sized cocks. It doesn't mean a thing as far as her capacity for orgasm. All it means is more of her is hidden underneath her foreskin.

Whenever you touch a woman's pussy, make sure your finger is wet. You can lick it or moisten it with juices from inside her. Be sure, by all means, to wet it before you touch her clit because it doesn't have any juices of its own and it's extremely sensitive. Your finger will stick to it if it's dry and that hurts. But you don't want to touch her clit anyway. You have to work up to that. Before she becomes aroused, her clit is too delicate to be handled.

Approach her pussy slowly. Women, even more so than men, love to be teased. The inner part of her thigh is her most tender spot. Lick it, kiss it, make designs on it with the tip of your tongue. Come dangerously close to her pussy, then float away. Make her anticipate it.

Now lick the crease where her leg joins her pussy. Nuzzle your face into her bush. Brush your lips over her slit without pressing down on it to further excite her. After you've done this to the point where your lady is bucking up from her seat and she's straining to get more of you closer to her, then put your lips right on top of her slit.

Kiss her, gently, then harder. Now use your tongue to separate her pussy lips and when she opens up, run your tongue up and down between the layers of pussy flesh. Gently spread her legs more with your hands. Everything you do with a woman you're about to eat must be done gently.

Tongue-fuck her. This feels divine. It also teases the hell out of her because by now she wants some attention given to her clit. Check it out. See if her clit has gotten hard enough to peek out of its covering. If so, lick it. If you can't see it, it might still be waiting for you underneath. So bring your tongue up to the top of her slit and feel for her clit. You may barely experience its presence. But even if you can't feel the tiny pearl, you can make it rise by licking the skin that covers it. Lick hard now and press into her skin.

Gently pull the pussy lips away and flick your tongue against the clit, hood covered or not. Do this quickly. This should cause her legs to shudder. When you sense she's getting up there toward orgasm, make your lips into an O and take the clit into your mouth. Start to suck gently and watch your lady's face for her reaction. If she can handle it, begin to suck harder. If she digs it, suck even harder. Go with her. If she lifts her pelvis into the air with the tension of her rising orgasm, move with her, don't fight her. Hang on, and keep your hot mouth on her clit. Don't let go. That's what she'll be saying too: 'Don't stop. Don't ever stop!'

There's a reason for that - most men stop too soon. Just like with cock sucking, this is something worth learning about and worth learning to do well. I know a man who's a lousy fuck, simply lousy, but he can eat pussy like nobody I know and he never has trouble getting a date. Girls are falling all over him.

But back to your pussy eating session...There's another thing you can do to intensify your woman's pleasure. You can finger-fuck her while she's enjoying your clit-licking talents. Before, during or after. She'll really like it. In addition to the erogenous zones surrounding her clit, a woman has another extremely sensitive area at the roof of her vagina. This is what you rub up against when you're fucking her. Well, since your cock is pretty far away from your mouth, your fingers will have to do the fucking.

Take two fingers. One is too skinny and three is too wide and therefore can't get deep enough. Make sure they're wet so you don't irritate her skin. Slide them inside, slowly at first, then a little faster. Fuck her with them rhythmically. Speed up only when she does. Listen to her breathing.

She'll let you know what to do. If you're sucking her clit and finger-fucking her at the same time, you're giving her far more stimulation than you would be giving her with your cock alone. So you can count on it that she's getting high on this. If there's any doubt, check her out for symptoms. Each woman is unique. You may have one whose nipples get hard when she's excited or only when she's having an orgasm. Your girl might flush red or begin to tremble. Get to know her symptoms and you'll be a more sensitive lover.

When she starts to have an orgasm, for heaven's sakes, don't let go of that clit. Hang in there for the duration. When she starts to come down from the first orgasm, press your tongue along the underside of the clit, leaving your lips covering the top. Move your tongue in and out of her cunt. If your fingers are inside, move them a little too, gently though, things are extremely sensitive just now.

If you play your cards right, you'll get some multiple orgasms this way. A woman stays excited for a full hour after she's had an orgasm. Do you realize the full impact of that information? The potential? One woman was clocked at 56 orgasms at one sitting. Do you know what effect you would have on a woman you gave 56 orgasms to? She'd be yours as long as you wanted her.

The last advice I have for you is this: After you've made her come, made her your slave by giving her the best head she's ever had, don't leave her alone just yet. Talk to her, stroke her body, caress her breasts. Keep making love to her quietly until she's come all the way down. A man can get off and go to sleep in the same breath and feel no remorse, no sense of loss. But a woman by nature requires some sensitivity from her lover in those first few moments after sex.

Oral sex can be the most exciting sexual experiences you can have. But it's what you make it. Take your time, practice often, pay attention to your lover's signals, and most of all, enjoy yourself.

The G-Spot

This does exist. And in over half of the women out there, it works better than anything else you can do to cause a strong, prolonged orgasm. The original name is the Grafenberg spot, after a doctor, Earnest Grafenberg, who documented the area (which may have been known by people here and there throughout history) in the fifties.

This "spot" is a small "mound" of tissue inside the vagina, between a penny and quarter in size, which responds to being pressed upon. It's almost certainly not the skenes glands, (which are located around the urethra, which is behind the G-spot area), as has been suggested by a few people. In fact, the G-Spot is the tissue in that raised area of the vagina, which has a higher concentration of sexual nerves, and produces hormones similar to those made by the male's prostate gland.

A sort of map to the area -- Imagine your lover lying on her back, legs spread. Your position is between her legs. You would slide a finger inside her vagina, palm up. With your finger straight back, middle finger is best, you would curve it toward yourself, gently, as if you were gesturing to someone to "come here". In doing so, the area you press on should be pretty near her "G-Spot" area. If you know enough to follow the urethra (the tube that leads from the bladder to where the pee comes out), along the inside of her vagina, you may feel a slight swelling (if she's excited) at the point where the g-spot is.

She must be excited, especially if either you or she is new to the g-spot, for the g-spot to have any real effect at all. It's not the ideal area for getting your lover aroused.

But when she is excited, this area (more often than not) is the best way to bring her to orgasm. You work your way back to it gradually, teasing her (typically, this works best) with your fingers, slowly and gently. It's easier to hit the right area with two fingers, but this may not be comfortable for her, depending on how "tight" she is at that moment. When you have your fingers around the right area, try gently pressing, not too quickly. The movement should be fairly rhythmic. It's typically best if you're licking her clitoris (or near it, depending on the woman) at the same time...don't make a big deal out of the "quest", this will often make her feel self-conscious, or distracted. The licking should seem to be the primary activity.

When you find the right area, she should respond by getting more excited. Most of the vagina's inside surface isn't really that sexually sensitive, believe it or not...most of the excitement of randomly inserting fingers is more psychological than from the actual stimulation.

While more complicated techniques work with some women, some of the time, the best basic technique, upon finding the g-spot, is to continue to slowly, rhythmically press on it, while licking her clitoris (for a few women, the labia (lips) are sensitive to licking, too).

This should cause her to build up to an orgasm.

A G-Spot orgasm is different (always, when it works at all) than any other kind women have. It is possible, with some women, to have different qualities and kinds of orgasms from vaginal, clitoral, anal, and even breast stimulation...but with other women, those kinds of orgasms are all pretty much the same. But the G-Spot orgasm not only feels different; it also causes her body to react in a different way.

First, it often causes a "push out" orgasm. The area around, or "above" (farther inside, that is) your fingers seems to swell up or to contract toward the opening of her vagina.

If you find the right combination of pushing back when this happens, and slacking off to let it push out, you can cause (in perhaps half of the women) her orgasm to continue happening, long after normal ones would have subsided. In some women you can even keep her at a "plateau" (raised level) of sexual excitement, like a prolonged orgasm (or a little less than one) afterward, building up to an even bigger climax.

That brings me to another important point; G-Spot orgasms sometimes causes a huge amount (relatively speaking) of lubrication (juices, wetness)...far more than even the most excited woman gets from "conventional" stimulation.

When that extra wetness combines with the push-out orgasm, you get actual a guy, but much better tasting. The built up juices can shoot out in such volume that you, or she, may be afraid that she lost control of her bladder. That is (almost always) not what happened. The fear that she peed can be enhanced by the fact that the urethra is behind the g-spot, so that in rare cases the woman can sometimes get the feeling that she needs to pee, even though she does not.

In reality, in both men and women, enough sexual excitement prevents peeing, unless you try really hard. This is a built-in reflex, because urine is something of a spermicide. The "pee hard-on" that men get in the morning is partially his body taking advantage of this reflex, to keep him from accidentally wetting the bed with the urine that built up while he was sleeping.


Anyone who likes, say, coffee or beer should have no room to complain about the way most women taste. No, I don't mean it tastes like coffee or beer, genius...I mean that beer and coffee are, at best, acquired tastes...they are not naturally pleasant to a human being, no matter how much your addiction to one or both has convinced you otherwise. Most people, whether they remember it or not, had to learn to like the taste of beer/coffee, and had the desire to be Like the Adults to help them along. Well, I'd list taking pleasure in cunnilingus above drinking addictive beverages on the list of things that prove maturity. Aside from that, there's the fact that many people who give it an honest try genuinely enjoy the taste/smell.

Nethack? (2, Interesting)

LittleBigScript (618162) | more than 11 years ago | (#4783804)

Yes, but do they have a review of nethack or moria or any other rogue-like?

Does this mean that Nethack nor nogue was ever ported to the Gameboy? ...

Re:Nethack? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4783816)

who cares.. they run on my zaurus ;p

and wtf i have to wait 20 secs before hitting submit

Re:Nethack? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4783817)

of course they have a review of nethack, you vulcan

Re:Nethack? Yup. (4, Informative)

GoofyBoy (44399) | more than 11 years ago | (#4783822)

Yes they do. []
Although, I'm a bit disappointed that they don't have Angband.

Re:Nethack? Yup. (2)

Afrosheen (42464) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784851)

Yeah, and it's a shame that they don't mention or have screenshots of Nethack:Falconseye. Probably the best looking mod while keeping the formula exactly the same.

Re:Nethack? (1)

0verdun (628584) | more than 11 years ago | (#4783896)

With Qt Nethack [] and a Zaurus, you can get a dose of the frustrating game any time.

Yes, I know, another "here's a solution to a problem you don't quite have" post, but maybe it will help justify somebody's purchase of the fantastic PDA.

Another reason to boycott micrsoft (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4783809)

ai advancements (2, Funny)

peculiarmethod (301094) | more than 11 years ago | (#4783819)

"You can also look up how other games have rated each game at Shackreviews."

if'in we can get tha games to compare each other with themselves, why cant we get OSs to do that??

P ;)

Re:ai advancements (2)

Economist (466965) | more than 11 years ago | (#4783900)

Because some companies seem to think games are more important than OSs. I for example never had as much problems with MS Age of Empires then I had with MS Windows

No Macintosh games? (5, Insightful)

LordNimon (85072) | more than 11 years ago | (#4783827)

Macintosh owners play games, too. In fact, a guide like this would be of more value to Mac gamers. Mac games are harder to find, so if you want to buy a game for a Mac user, you probably can't rely on your local CompUseless sales droid to know what's hot and what's not.

Re:No Macintosh games? (0, Troll)

natron 2.0 (615149) | more than 11 years ago | (#4783838)

What?!? How can you not find Mac games or know what is "hot or not"? Obviously you have access to the internet. If you cannot find Mac games online, then you are spending too much time on Slashdot. Remember there are other sites out there.

Re:No Macintosh games? (5, Funny)

tmark (230091) | more than 11 years ago | (#4783875)

Here's the sum-total of a complete Macintosh game-buyers guide:

1) Diablo II
2) Lemonade

Re:No Macintosh games? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4783893)

And Diablo II doesn't run under OS-X

Re:No Macintosh games? (5, Informative)

AHumbleOpinion (546848) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784163)

And Diablo II doesn't run under OS-X

Actually it does. For Starcraft and Diablo II there are patches that upgrade the original MacOS version to MacOS X. Warcraft III shipped with MacOS X support.

Re:No Macintosh games? (2)

AHumbleOpinion (546848) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784151)

The parody of the "switch" ads referred to Warcraft III and Breakout.

Re:No Macintosh games? (1)

yokem_55 (575428) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784940)

I believe in that same parody, at the very end of the that guy's list of available games, photoshop was muttered really quickly....

Re:No Macintosh games? (3, Informative)

Mononoke (88668) | more than 11 years ago | (#4783991)

Mac games typically don't get ported until they've proven their worth on the PC side.

That means Mac users are less likely to waste money on games of the "quality" of Daitakana.

In other words, we don't need a guide. If the game is worth owning it's been ported, because PC users have already separated the wheat from the chaff for us. ^_^

Re:No Macintosh games? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4784498)

That's what I like! Let other people do your thinking FOR you! We could use people like you in office.

Re:No Macintosh games? (1)

jchristopher (198929) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784985)

In other words, we don't need a guide. If the game is worth owning it's been ported, because PC users have already separated the wheat from the chaff for us. ^_^

How come there is no Counter-Strike for Macs then? Civilization? Emperor?

Re:No Macintosh games? (5, Interesting)

loonyboi (101145) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784077)

For the record, I'm a Mac user. A Mac gamer, too. I left Mac games out because Mac users make up a very small portion of our audience, and those who *are* Mac users, like myself, have a second Windows PC for games. It's the same reason we don't have Mac games in our ShackReviews.

Re:No Macintosh games? (3, Interesting)

LordNimon (85072) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784145)

I think you're confusing cause and effect. Maybe Mac users make up a small percentage of your audience specifically because you leave them out! At the very least, you could team up with a Mac-specific gaming web site (like IMG or and just include their list and reviews.

Re:No Macintosh games? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4784576)

Yeah, that's it. Because there's no Mac section in the ShackReviews Holiday Guide, game developers the world-over have decided to completely abandon Mac development and have made a mass exodus to the PC/console market.

Yes, I realize that there's a difference between 'their audience' and the Mac gamers market, but come ON. Be reasonable about what you're posting...any cause and effect relationship in this case is negligible.

Re:No Macintosh games? (-1, Offtopic)

Mex (191941) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784207)

"Macintosh owners play games, too"

What, Breakout ain't enough for ya?

Re:No Macintosh games? (1)

Sixpack (21793) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784719)

As we all know, Macintosh games are ported from the PC about a year after the initial PC release date.

That being said, does anyone have a link to the 2001 Holiday buyer's guide for the Mac users?

Re:No Macintosh games? (1)

jchristopher (198929) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784974)

Come on! There are lots of great games on the Mac! Like, Warcraft III................. um............ oh, Breakout................. and Super Breakout. And that puzzle game, with the Apple logo!

Re:No Macintosh games? (4, Funny)

cosmo7 (325616) | more than 11 years ago | (#4785093)

BLOFELD: Ha ha, Mr Bond. You see, with this massively parallel supercomputer I can control every satellite in the world and destroy your precious civilization!

BOND: Does it have any games?


BOND: You know. Counter Strike. Warcraft. Quake.

BLOFELD: It's got Quake.

BOND: Huh. I'll stick with the PC.

BLOFELD: It doesn't need games. I've got a fucking XBox for games.

BOND: Hmm.

BLOFELD: Oooooh!

MOO 3 (2, Funny)

[cx] (181186) | more than 11 years ago | (#4783832)

If this game is a let down I'm never playing another computer game again. Well I am joking, but seriously, this is like botching the Final Fantasy series erm.. or the Civilization series...hmmm

Well lets hope they dont fuck it up!


Re:MOO 3 (1)

Vardan (172720) | more than 11 years ago | (#4783858)

I so wish I had gotten to be one of the Beta testers, but I didn't win the random drawing part of the contest. :( Ah well, it looks VERY good to me so far, from the screenies and other released material.

Re:MOO 3 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4783878)

Well lets hope they dont fuck it up!

They already fucked it up by killing off all the cool races from the first two games. Rantz Hoseley is a fool!

Re:MOO 3 (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4784130)

...Medal Of Onor 3? ...some sort of cow-simulator?

Why is it that games are always referred to by initials?

Re:MOO 3 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4784171)

MoO=Master of Orion

Gamecube is the console to get this season (5, Interesting)

wobedraggled (549225) | more than 11 years ago | (#4783840)

I'll probably get yelled at from the ps2/xbox fan base but screw it, both systems are lacking in any real innovation. I only need so many fps and run-n-gun games. The cube has one of the best and original video game lineups in years, and I hope people can see that.

Re:Gamecube is the console to get this season (5, Interesting)

peculiarmethod (301094) | more than 11 years ago | (#4783862)

i hate you for saying it, but I agree.. I only invested in a ps2 thinking it would take the great lead with its year head start (and lot more titles).. alas.. it's starting to look like the same mistake pc games had back when vesa drivers exploded and simple 3d walk-around mazes flurried the download screens.. made me sick of them, and almost kept me from checking out doom (THANK GOD I reconsidered.. this was after castle wolfenstein).. in my opinion the PC games market didnt really pull itself out either.. the platform wars did that .. and it seems ps2 is killing itself off with the unfortunate release of DOZENS of clonish games.. I'll still be hanging on to sony until the ps/3 specs come out.. if they seem weird, I'll look to other platforms.


Re:Gamecube is the console to get this season (1)

Vardan (172720) | more than 11 years ago | (#4783867)

I'd probably agree and get a gamecube myself, if 90% of their lineup wasn't geared toward age 13 and under. They need to expand and get more complex adult-oriented games (no not porno, you dirty minded...)

Re:Gamecube is the console to get this season (3, Insightful)

Trevelyan (535381) | more than 11 years ago | (#4783976)

They are, Resident Evil is an example of that.
But anyway just because some of their games are targeted at the young, does not make them any less fun to play.
I have sonic adventure 2, and as long as tails voice dont make you too homicidal (I know ppl who switch the lang to jap because of it) It is fun to play (but not too challenging). I wish it had more of what the game calls action levels, ie the ones where you run around as fast as you can (which is what made sonic famous in the first place)

Games I look forward to: Metriod Prime (and Fusion (GBA)), Zelda and some others.
I was waiting for Perfect Dark Zero (was a main reason for buying a cube) but alas it is not to be, PD0 will go to the X-Box (which I will not buy)

Re:Gamecube is the console to get this season (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4784041)

check out Eternal Darkness, a mature rated game by Silicon Knights. One of the best "adult" games I have ever played, and certainly better than the Resident Evil series

Re:Gamecube is the console to get this season (1)

CashCarSTAR (548853) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784082)

Eternal Darkness is the best mature game out there right now. A great story, amazing graphics and sound, and the great sanity system doesn't make you feel like you can kick everybodies butt. In fact, in most stages when I reach the end I'm usually just about to die. It really feels like survival horror:p

Re:Gamecube is the console to get this season (2)

Syncdata (596941) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784273)

I'd probably agree and get a gamecube myself, if 90% of their lineup wasn't geared toward age 13 and under.
This argument has always boggled my mind. I don't know about you, but I have a GC and about 8 games for it. If only 10% of a systems games appeal to me, that leaves me with 8% of the titles left that I haven't even taken a look at yet. Few ever comes close to aquiring 10% of any systems lineup.

Re:Gamecube is the console to get this season (2)

WildBeast (189336) | more than 11 years ago | (#4783980)

Well what exactly do you need? I have an XBox and I don't play FPS games, except for Ghost Recon if you count that as an FPS.

I have Deathrow, NHL 2K3, Splinter Cell, Fatal Frame, Outlaw Golf, Blinx, Project Gotham Racing and Totaled!

I'm considering getting a GC for Christmas to but only to get my hands on Mario Sunshine, Mario Party 4 and Resident Evil. Metroid is as overhyped as Halo.

Re:Gamecube is the console to get this season (2, Informative)

CashCarSTAR (548853) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784103)

I agree, go with the GameCube.

Now that the GameCube is really getting its base together over the last two months, it looks like it's going to be a great system. The controller is great and perfectly responsive, the sound is top-notch and the graphics..the graphics is really the debating point.

Some people think that the X-Box has better graphics than the GameCube. It certainly can push out more polygonss...but is it just me or do X-Box games lack a certain charm? Most of the ones I've seen have looked pretty..but not amazing. Lots of polygons but no light sourcing, reflections, etc. The type of little effects that make you go ooooohhhh. Mere polygons don't do that for me:(. The GameCube and its Flipper chip pump out the lighting effects in shades..and it makes a wonderful difference. Check out Mario Sunshine if you don't believe me. The reflective effects and shadows in it are so nice. Especially when you start getting some shines and the cloud cover starts leaving. It feels too natural.

If all three game consoles are maxed's all about gameplay. Unfortunately, the X-Box is being left behind in that catagory. Splinter Cell looks good but that's about it.

Re:Gamecube is the console to get this season (2)

Syncdata (596941) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784290)

About the Graphics. Yes, technically, the XBox is superior. And I will probably be mocked untill your throats are sore for saying this, but, to my mind, the best graphics award on any console goes to Super Smash Brothers melee. Just pause the game from time to time and move the camera around. You'll see what I mean.

Re:Gamecube is the console to get this season (2, Troll)

bogie (31020) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784222)

If your a kid yes, but for the older crowd PS2 and Xbox are better choices. GC may now have a game like RE and even Electronic Arts is on board, but really GC panders to the younger crowd. I also happen to think PS2 has the best lineup of all systems.

"both systems are lacking in any real innovation."

You'll have to substantiate more. Last time I checked the biggest game GC fans are creaming themselves about this year Metroid IS a fps in which you run-n-gun. So while I get that you think people shouldn't overlook GC, saying PS2 and Xbox only has fps and run-n-gun is like saying GC only has Super Fun Happy Hour type games. You can't complain about stereo typing and than turn around and streotype yourself.

the old tired kids argument (5, Insightful)

newsdee (629448) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784346)

Chances are that most trigger-happy fps players will hate Metroid Prime. It's not hyped because it's a standard FPS, but because it's a new game of the Metroid series (and actually succeeds in conveying a similar gameplay to the older 2D version).

Also to pretend that GC games are only appropiate to kids is a major fallacy. A game does not need a rating of Mature to be enjoyable.

Besides, if what most people call "adult games" are in fact new instances of "Quake3 nth-clone" or "Famous Name's Hyped Sport", then I'm very happy playing kiddie games, thank you.

Re:Gamecube is the console to get this season (4, Interesting)

Sludge (1234) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784482)

Metroid is hardly a run and gun. When you leave a room, enemies reappear. Holding down the L button locks on to the nearest enemy to your crosshair. You then press the fire button as fast as you care to, to destroy the creature.

It's hardly linear, and it's hardly an FPS in the conventional sense. It's more an adventure game with non linear exploration. For example, when I was five hours (17%) into the game, I was brought full circle to the initial place of my dropship. I then spent the next hour exploring the places I had already been, trying out my new suit powerups in old circumstances and finding new secrets and even the way to go.

Sure, you use guns to immobilize threats, but that does not make this a conventional FPS.

Re:Gamecube is the console to get this season (0)

mondoterrifico (317567) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784520)

Your argument would be sound if it was not for the fact that Metroid is not a first person shooter. Do some research before u spout some crap as fact. Just because something is in first person view does not make it a shooter. You have obviously not played any of the metroid games.

Re:Gamecube is the console to get this season (1)

firebomb (160924) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784612)

I believe the proper term is first person exploration, I heard my friend touting that phrase when he was playing, and it really holds true. I havn't seen many area that are run and gun. :)

Re:Gamecube is the console to get this season (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4785187)

If your a kid yes

wow, that line makes you sound like a typical ps2/xbox droid. and btw, i'm 25.

also, metroid, though similar in look, isn't an fps in practice. i'm not sure what you would call it as it has kind of created a new category for itself. play it and see what i mean.

the problem i see with the xbox is that it doesn't offer much that i can't already get with a GC and the graphics capabilities are about equal. the ps2 has lots of games but there is little variation in the themes. most of the big name games are available multi platform anyway. i will say however that ps2 has more titles that are likely to get me interested in buying a ps2 console though (rather than an xbox). we'll see what the future brings though.

btw, i find the zealotry a little tired. i grew up out of that back when i quit playing the 2600 and colecovision and moved up to an nes...

Re:Gamecube is the console to get this season (0)

zonker (1158) | more than 11 years ago | (#4785195)

interesting how you propogate a stereotype (that GC is for kids only) with a comment that complains about someone propogating stereotypes... nice try.

Re:Gamecube is the console to get this season (2, Insightful)

Qzukk (229616) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784296)

What do you call innovative games?

I like games where some new idea is brought up. Like Fantavision, an early PS2 puzzle game where you built your own fireworks displays and watched them go off. Or that Mosquito game, where you fly around sucking blood. Lets not forget Ico, it redefined the puzzler to add incredible ambience.

Coming up on the RPG end is .hack (also ps2), which is set in a multiplayer online world, without actually being online. According to what I've heard, it actually works well. Xenosaga will be coming out next year as well, while I haven't heard much about the Japanese release, if its anything like Xenogears, by the end you'll be caught actually thinking about the role of humanity.

Gamecube has its innovation too, I've been thinking of getting a gamecube for Animal Crossing, and maybe Evolution Worlds (ok, that one might not be a good example of "innovation" but I thought the first two Evolution games on dreamcast were cute, and this looks exactly like those did) . Other than that, super monkey ball is pretty innovative. Nintendo more-or-less created the idea of "party games" (at least for parties not wanting to play football all day).

The biggest problem with "innovation" is that its unwelcome in the markets. Take a look in the history on slashdot and read the Unfinished Adventures article. Face it, the sad truth is that things that blow up with blood and guts sell well. Being able to beat up hookers is an added bonus. Bucking the trend results in product cancellation, or in the case of console games from Japan, just not showing up on this side of the ocean.

Personally I'm hoping that the upcoming PS2 release of the Sakura Taisen games will mean we will finally get to play Sakura Taisen/Sakura Wars here in English. That would be great innovation, at least in our market.

Other resources (5, Informative)

Omkar (618823) | more than 11 years ago | (#4783844)

Check out Game Rankings [] for some overviews of scores only. This can help weed out the trash on each system, and highlight some great buys.

I'm a Nintendo fan myself so here are some resoucres I have found helpful:

Planet Gamecube [] - Great news, reviews, and info
IGN Cube [] - lots of Insider-only material, but decent reviews.
N-Sider [] - They update very infrequently, but their reviews and editorials are insightful and some of the best I have seen.

My own GC picks (in no order):

Metroid Prime
Timesplitters 2
Super Mario Sunshine (you should have this already!)
Super Smash Brothers: Melee (same here)
Super Monkey Ball 2
Eternal Darkness (although it was released a while ago)
Pikmin (this one as well)
Animal Crossing
Sonic Mega Collection

But if you don't have one yet, buy a Gamboy Advance! It has many, many excellent titles, and is portable!

My GBA Picks (3, Informative)

Twister002 (537605) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784038)

Advance Wars
Metroid Fusion
Golden Sun
Tactics Ogre

Eye of the Beholder - if you like throwback games, it's really similar to the old D&D Gold Box game.

The GBA is a great system, IF you can get enough light to it. On a plane, the little overhead lights work great for lighting up the screen. If you're willing to modify your GBA you can install the Afterburner [] backlight mod.

Re:Other resources (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4784188)

And GC fans get offended when their system gets called a kiddie system.

Another good reason to get the GBA (2)

CleverNickName (129189) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784231)

If you liked those cool "Game and Watch" games from the 80s, like Cement Factory, and Octopus, and the rest, you may want to get a GBA.

When I was at E3 this year, Nintendo was showing off this cool card-reader thing which hooks into your GBA, which reads entire games off of trading cards and stores them in memory. So you can buy a pack of trading cards, and get the G&W version of Mario Brothers, Donkey Kong, etc.

They also offer Pokemon cards, but Slashdotters are *way* too cool for that crap, right?

Re:Other resources (2)

dagg (153577) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784421)

Super Mario Sunshine is a blast to play. I played it for about a week straight when I first got it. I also really like Pikmin. When I first got that game... I thought it was extremely boring. But then I gave it one more chance before I was going to sell it on Ebay... and I got addicted. I ended up playing it for about a week straight as well. Those games are well worth it (but you probably already have them).

As for the Game Boy Advance... I already sold mine on Ebay. I couldn't stand it. It gave me a terrible headache.


Another cool review site (2, Informative)

JojoLinkyBob (110971) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784469)

Check out metacritic, it's similar to Game Rankings, and it has a really nice interface. In addition, it provides "meta-reviews" of other things like music, videos, etc.

Adventure and puzzle games (3, Interesting)

octalgirl (580949) | more than 11 years ago | (#4783864)

I'm glad there's something for me on the list. Adventure games Syberia and The Longest Journey ring a bell so maybe I'll try them out this year. I started with Wolfenstien and Doom, went through Quake etc, but then games just got too violent for me. I remember a Game mag edition where every ad was for a violent game, bragging about 'exit wounds' and 'blood and gore'. All I could think was what a waste of good graphic programming talent.

Although I never cared for MYST (that flat screen, jump forward thing gave me a headache) I'll take the clones. I really liked Riven. The gaming was a bit weak, but some of the puzzles were pretty good, and the scenery was amazing for it's time. And what ever happend to 7th Guest? That's more my kind of game, although I could do without the raunchy videos which really spoil it as a family game. I just got Harry Potter for my niece, and after setting it up for her, I wanted one for myself. More my style. You get the levels, the graphics, the secrets and the puzzles. Harry can climb and jump and swim, etc, but he sort of runs around with magic wand and makes the monsters disappear. Def more my style.

Warning on The Longest Journey.... (2)

Corvaith (538529) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784776)

The whole game sets itself up in a big way for a sequel.

There isn't one.

There probably isn't ever going to be one.

I played the whole way through without knowing that, and it set me up for a major disappointment. It was a lovely game, though.

Re:Adventure and puzzle games (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4785194)

Get thee to a bargain bin and fish out a copy of Grim Fandango from Lucasarts. It's a no-shit masterpeice. I liked Syberia fine, but Grim Fandango still stands alone.

Most Unsecure OS? Yep, It's Linux (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4783865)

November 26, 2002 | Paul Thurrott []

According to a new Aberdeen Group report, open-source solution Linux has surpassed Windows as the most vulnerable OS, contrary to the high-profile press Microsoft's security woes receive. Furthermore, the Aberdeen Group reports that more than 50 percent of all security advisories that CERT issued in the first 10 months of 2002 were for Linux and other open-source software solutions. The report muddles the argument that proprietary software such as Windows is inherently less secure than open solutions. And here's another blow to the status quo: Proprietary UNIX solutions were responsible for just as many security advisories as Linux in the same time period. Could Windows be the most secure mainstream OS available today?

"Open-source software, commonly used in many versions of Linux, UNIX, and network routing equipment, is now the major source of elevated security vulnerabilities for IT buyers," the report reads. "Security advisories for open-source and Linux software accounted for 16 out of the 29 security advisories--about one of every two advisories--published for the first 10 months of 2002. During this same time, vulnerabilities affecting Microsoft products numbered seven, or about one in four of all advisories."

The stunning report makes several claims that seem to fly in the face of widely accepted beliefs. First, the Aberdeen Group says that Windows-based Trojan horse attacks peaked in 2001, when CERT released six such advisories, then bottomed out this year, when CERT didn't issue any alerts. However, Trojan horse-based attacks on Linux, UNIX, and open-source projects jumped from one in 2001 to two in 2002. The Aberdeen Group says this information proves that Linux and UNIX are just as prone to Trojan horse attacks as any other OS, despite press reports to the contrary, and that Mac OS X, which is based on UNIX, is also vulnerable to such attacks. Even more troubling, perhaps, is the use of open-source software in routers, Web servers, firewalls, and other Internet-connected solutions. The Aberdeen Group says that this situation sets up these devices and software products to be "infectious carriers" that intruders can easily usurp.

According to the Aberdeen Group, the open-source community's claim that it can fix security vulnerabilities more quickly than proprietary developers can means little. The group says that the open-source software and hardware solutions need more rigorous security testing before they're released to customers. This statement is particularly problematic because many Linux distributions lack the sophisticated automatic-update technologies modern Windows versions contain.

We can rail against Microsoft and its security policies, but far more people and systems use Microsoft's software than the competition's software. I believe that we'll never know how secure Linux is, compared with Windows, until a comparable number of people and systems use Linux. But despite the fact that Linux isn't as prevalent as Windows, we're still seeing a dramatic increase in Linux security advisories today. I think the conclusion is obvious.

*sigh* If only I hadn't used up my mod points... (1)

Vardan (172720) | more than 11 years ago | (#4783876)

At least post biased, non-evidence backed stuff like this in the proper place.

But there's no "Linux" section on Slashdot. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4783883)

---- Look over here. I don't see one.

penis (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4783872)


Quality games... (2)

WPIDalamar (122110) | more than 11 years ago | (#4783938)

Is it just me, or does there seem to be a lack of quality PC games lately. I used to go into my local Software Ect. and instantly find half a dozen games that I just had to have. And now when I head in I'm lucky if I find one. Maybe I'm just getting old. Kind of sucks... graduate college, get good job, can pay for more games than before, and don't want to.

The funny thing is... my Fiance who *doesn't like video games* has found several in the past year that are good for her.

Have there been any real good stratedgy / tactical games out lately?

Re:Quality games... (3, Informative)

Sandman1971 (516283) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784462)

I've been playing a strategic FPS game for the last couple of months.... America's Army [] . Unlike most FPS games, this one requires team strategy to win. And another cool factor: It's totally free! (You can pay to order the CD, but you can download the full game online). And roughly on a monthly basis they release new maps and new weapons and such. It's an amazingly fun game.

Nice ad-as-story. Really. (-1, Offtopic)

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Before anyone says "Where's Rygar?!!" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4783989)

It does not belong on that list. Thats why its not there. That game is cheesy and terribly short. We bought it yesterday and beat it in 5 hours. It has its nostalgic moments and the flying castle is one of the coolest scenes I've ever seen... but I could have rented it over a weekend, and saved $45.

Another day, another ad bites it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4783996)

# /etc/junkbuster.conf # new

No games on a PC that makes you want a PC (2, Insightful)

BubbaTheBarbarian (316027) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784093)

Is there anything that truly catches your imagination? It used to be EQ, or Quake 3. I just tried UT3K, and well, it is nice.

That is all I can say about it. It is nice.

The last game I bought and was into was RTCW. Is this the end of PC gaming as we know it? Is our road that of being console unit's bitch?

The problem, as I see it, is that there is no game that caters to the PC's strengths. Nothing that makes me want to play, for lack of a better phrase, addicts me.

What would bring PC gaming back to the heady days of Doome, Civ2, Quake 3 and UT, when we ruled the roost? What would make something interesting?

Re:No games on a PC that makes you want a PC (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4784217)

What would bring PC gaming back to the heady days of Doome, Civ2, Quake 3 and UT, when we ruled the roost? What would make something interesting?

This attitude seems prevalent among people who had a PC as their first computer, but actually the game market was already deep into creative decline at that time. That decline started somewhere during the 16-bit age when the creative individuals were being replaced by development-by-committee, and when presentation became more important than content.

Apart from the refreshing newness of being 3D, games like Doom or Quake or UT were not really that interesting. Try playing them again if you disagree...

Re:No games on a PC that makes you want a PC (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4784308)

I just tried UT3K

UT3K?? Wow, you must have a pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-release!

Have the characters devolved into cavemen or have they advanced so much that they fight with their minds?

Re:No games on a PC that makes you want a PC (1)

AndyAMPohl (573700) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784430)

It seems like for PC games there's a huge upgrade race, and every time you buy a brand new game, you're always worried about how well it will run with your year-old hardware. With console games, it's pretty much gauranteed to run well.


Re:No games on a PC that makes you want a PC (2)

liquidsin (398151) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784745)

I've been saying the same thing for months, but every once in a while I find a game that makes me glad I still have a windows partition (no os holy wars here please...). As much as SoF2 was pretty much "every other fps" it won huge points with me for great multi player. And I've recently discovered Gothic, which is a great rpg. You just need to look harder for good pc games. The good ones usually don't get the hype.

Will Doom III be out in time for Christmas? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4784161)

Apparently it will not be out. I can't help but wonder how many folks will buy new machines just to play this game at a decent frame rate. I might buy a new PC after Christmas, though that's more because my current machine is past it's prime.

Hmmm (4, Funny)

fleener (140714) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784167)

I'm getting "that special gamer in my life" a basketball, football, soccer ball and tub of Slim Fast.

Bah (2, Funny)

SageLikeFool (547462) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784918)

Trust me. Those tubs of Slim Fast only last two days or so. 4 at the most.

WTG Shacknews.... (1)

Kierthos (225954) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784206)

Okay, I know they're not required to mention every game that is coming out, but gee, you'd think they would mention Shrouded Isles, the first expansion to Dark Age of Camelot.... I mean, EQ is basically releasing the super-mega-LotR size-gotta have it-wanker version of their game, and it gets a plug....



Somebody always says it, but... (3, Insightful)

tigertigr (610853) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784322)

Look for an old Dreamcast if you don't have one. I just bought one myself a few weeks ago and I can't stop playing it. There's tons of fun games for it and they are dirt cheap. Most of the games I've found have been around $15CDN.

I highly recommend it.

Re:Somebody always says it, but... (2)

AvitarX (172628) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784939)

How about a Game list?

I have a DC and can't find any good lists that mention anything new I missed.

My list of must have DC games is:

Crazy Taxi
GrandiaII (the first RPG I really got into in a looong time)
Soul Caliber
Wacky Races (the best cart racer I have played since the original Mario Cart)
JoJo's Bizarre adventure (great 2-d fighter)
Power Stone (Perhaps the funnest fighter ever)
download and burn an NES emulator with a bunch of games (there is a snes emulator too, but it is not full speed, and skips a lot of frames)

If you like classic games, the Sega and Midway classics are great
If you like really classic games the atari classic is good too, though you suffer badly from resolution change or something, I found most games to be unplayable

There are plenty of other good games, but, I can't think of any other must haves off the top of my head.

My dreamcast and pretty big game library was under 200.00 dollors, well worht every penny.

This was a year ago, so the graphics weren't even dated (Resident evil was the same as PS2, Sonic adventure was amazingly detailed, and AFAIN Grandia 2 was exactly the same.)

One of the coolest things about the dreamcast was the web-browser, you could go and download saved games with everything unlocked. If you like to play games with people, but not waste hours unlocking everything, this was a spectacular feature.

Consume! (5, Insightful)

nfotxn (519715) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784380)

I love how holidays are synonymous with buying now.


Re:Consume! (4, Interesting)

Fantastic Lad (198284) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784672)

I love how holidays are synonymous with buying now.

Not just buying, but buying things that distract everybody from the real show playing live right outside our 'windows'.

-Fantastic Lad

By new games?? (3, Funny)

Isldeur (125133) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784386)

Why buy new games when you can play old ones (Neverwinter Nights) in a new way [] .??

A Gamecube game most people are forgetting... (2, Informative)

roc_machine (314714) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784683)

is Mario Party 4 [] . Yes, it recieved ho-hum reviews, but man is it a blast to play with friends (and family)... the kind of game anyone can play, because the controls are simple.

I went to a house party last night and the main entertainment among us mid-twenty year old's was Mario Party.

The "Domination" mini-game is a blast for rapid fire button mashers. I watched someone last night score 142!

Re:A Gamecube game most people are forgetting... (2)

NineNine (235196) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784778)

I really hope that you were all stoned. If not, that's just sad.

The Best Game Ever... (1)

Yoquimbo (630375) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784687)

...Is ancient! Why don't they make a Kirby PC game? Cute little guy! Simply cute! I just wanna HUG him! (Who'd want to hug a "modern" game character?)

Play Kirby in VBA (1)

yerricde (125198) | more than 11 years ago | (#4785021)

Why don't they make a Kirby PC game?

Nintendo doesn't make PC games. If you want to play Kirby on your PC, then buy a GBA, an MBV2 cable, and Kirby for GBA. Then space-shift the game to your PC (mb -1 kirby.gba -w 300) and enjoy in VBA [] .

Community... (2)

OneFix (18661) | more than 11 years ago | (#4784807)

Check out the community for a list of what's hot...

I have found that one of the best resources is GameFAQs []

They carry "Top 10 FAQ Pages" and "Top 10 Message Boards" for the site, including individual "Top 10" pages for each platform. Not to mention FAQs that can give you an idea as to the story line (more FAQs generally means a larger fan base)...

The problem with the "Top Selling Games of the Month/Week" is that if everyone has already bought a game (i.e. everything they are releasing is crap), then the top selling game might be mediocre at best.

If you want to know what games ppl are playing, this is the source. There are also reviews from real ppl that actually played the games (not some "reviewer")... If you're interested in a title, check here first.

Yeah (2)

Scrag (137843) | more than 11 years ago | (#4785112)

I hate it when they use fake people as reviewers...
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