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Sega Master System is Reborn

michael posted more than 11 years ago | from the buy-one-get-one-free dept.

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Nick of NSTime writes "Various sources are reporting that a Brazilian company is releasing a new version of the venerable Sega Master System, dubbed the Sega Master System III. The case is a radical departure from the old SMS and SMS II. The thing to get excited about: it will include 74 games built-in. The translated page can be found here."

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That's great. (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4786969)

But I'll wait for PS2 Master version set to be out in a few years.

All today's games on a small nanochip.

This is better. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4787149)

http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=443&p =10

Stare. Scroll down a bit. Stare again. Repeat.

"We got it right this time!"

Forst Plast (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4786971)

First post/view. PWNT Negroes! Tee hee here is a little bit of text to fill this up with. I have teh first post for reals I am champion lololol I win.

Hmmm (5, Funny)

cbcbcb (567490) | more than 11 years ago | (#4786973)

It has the powerful processor of 8 bits, capable to generate images with highest definition and resolution of 64 different colors.

I wonder if they might be overselling it?

Re:Hmmm (5, Funny)

evilviper (135110) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787226)

Somehow, I don't think they intentionally worded it in such a way that the google translator would exaggerate it. Check out the games list:

Hang On


It pilots a motion poisoned in a emotive dispute. Its motion is FEARLESS 4, it was projected you to take off everything of it: maximum power, principle speed and a spectacular capacity of maneuver! It breathes deep and it holds firm the handlebar of its motion!


There's nothing quite like piloting a motion poisoned in a emotive dispute! I guess that console would have to have such a powerful processor of 8 bits to do that.

No Phantasy Star? (5, Insightful)

DoctorPhish (626559) | more than 11 years ago | (#4786975)

Phantasy Star was my introduction to the world of platform RPGs (since it came out before Final Fantasy in the west), and is still considered one of the finest of the genre. I'd even consider buying one of these things if it had been included. I guess I'll just have to settle for the emulated Saturn version in the Phantasy Star collection on my modded Saturn ^_^

Re:No Phantasy Star? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4786990)

For the love of the Reverent Lutz, someone get this man an emulator.

Ahh, how I wish I could bring myself to play through the series again. Ever since Naka ruined it with the horror that is Not-Phantasy Star Online, I can't bear to even think about Algo.

Re:No Phantasy Star? (2, Interesting)

DoctorPhish (626559) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787014)

Oh, I was there the day they dumped the ROM ^_^
I actually played through both the English and Japanese versions through emulators (The Japanese version had FM music...much nicer), but prefer the console feel you can only get on a little TV in a musty basement (Yeah, I'm the freak who turns on the scanlines option in all those emulators).
I never got into PSO, despite having a Japanese Dreamcast, and ample opportunities to buy it used for a few hundred Yen every time I go back. It just feels like a completely different game...I was totally pumped about it right up until it came out. Go figure.
Speaking of emulators, I actually made a semi-working Saturn emulator way back in the day...got sidetracked when I went on exchange to Japan the first time. Anyone else remember when the only part of SEGA's development site that was password protected was the front page? I guessed a URL and downloaded all the dev kits and documents. They had that hole plugged by the end of the weekend, so it's a good thing I had telnet access to a T1...I wonder if anyone other than the network admin ever knew? ^_^;
It was real cool having all those PDFs with "SEGA Confidential" written diagonally in grey on each page.

Re:No Phantasy Star? (2, Interesting)

Woogiemonger (628172) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787020)

No Phantasy Star?

That "74 games" link to the list of games available only lists 54 games.. I have to believe if these guys knew anything about Sega's legacy, they'd put Phantasy Star on there.

Personally, I liked Phantasy Star II for the Sega Genesis the best. Genesis games are considered classics too. The Sega Genesis was able to run old Sega games with an extra attachment. Surely this company could have supported both without much extra cost. Other nifty Genesis games that people would love to see included are Golden Axe, Altered Beast, Thunderforce III, Strider, Revenge of Shinobi, Shadowdancer.. need I go on?

Anyone have a clue as to what the price for this is?

Re:No Phantasy Star? (2)

CerebusUS (21051) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787145)

Purely a guess here. But the first game listed is "20 in 1"

Think they might be counting that as 20 games?

Couldn't find pricing anywhere, but they are selling their Mega Drives with 30 games for less than the cost of a new xbox game

Re:No Phantasy Star? (1)

ParnBR (601156) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787190)

They didn't list all the games, but it's possibly there, since Tec Toy translated it to Portuguese some time ago. But it wouldn't probably interest audiences outside Portuguese-speaking countries.

Re:No Phantasy Star? (2, Interesting)

TrancePhreak (576593) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787195)

Just get the GameBoy Advance game if you really want to play it. It has the first 3 games on one cart.

Mattel action figures! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4786977)

Mattel has a neat collection of action figures [mattel.com] based on Sega game characters. Go and check them out!

Re:Mattel action figures! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4786986)

Hmm

who modded this up again! please verify the links people post before modding, thank you.

Re:Mattel action figures! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4787022)

okay, i modded it up. i'm really really sorry, isuck. i promise to stare at the goatse guy for a full half hour to repair my cosmic karma, sadly i fear my slashdot karma is not so easily repairable.

Goatse Link (0, Offtopic)

jeramybsmith (608791) | more than 11 years ago | (#4786996)

It has been a few years since I got tricked by a goatse.cx link. I hope your happy.

Re:Goatse Link (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4787118)

What about my happy? Either finish your sentences or learn the language.

Anyway, grammar boy, learn how to dance. [klerck.org]

Shinobi (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4786978)

*japanese accent* Shinobi's Back! Waaay back!

gp32 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4786980)

The gp32 [entware.com] has a great master system emulator for playing all those sega games on the move. Get one, and then help with the linux porting effort :)

More companies should follow suit... (5, Insightful)

httpamphibio.us (579491) | more than 11 years ago | (#4786982)

My roomie and I have discussed at length the massive amounts of money companies could make if they did more things like this. Nintendo could easily release all the NES games ever made on one Gamecube disc and charge a bundle for it. I wouldn't mind paying $100 maybe more, Animal Crossing has taught me two things... first, that the old NES games still rule and second, that playing on a TV is way better than emulation.

I wonder how this company got the rights to do this legally...

Re:More companies should follow suit... (5, Interesting)

-douggy (316782) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787039)

I rekon that Nintendo could easily do this with all the Nintendo and Rare made games. Imagine every mario/donkey kong/zelda/pinbot/snakeratle n role/ et al from the NES and SNES I know there were good games from lots of other companies but at the time nin had a big share in rare so maybe they would be easiest to get the licences for (maybe not after the MS buyout...)

I'd gladly pay for such a disc. From what i've read around with a dreamcast and a nes emulator this could be done but I am not sure how good those emulators are. Nintendos would be spot on. Hell they could bundle a nes type comtroller.

Plus everybody know SMB3 and SMW are the best two mario games ever.

I believe people didn't get the point on this....: (5, Informative)

jessieDyke (513702) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787163)

I believe there is a BIG confusion on your part... I am from Brazil, and I think I should tell you all that the true reason for the SMS being constantly reborn in Brazil is not the fact Tectoy venerates the SMS, but instead the fact the SMS can make a very unexpensive game plataform... and the only one 90% of the brazilian families can afford, considering what they make in an year wouldn't be able to afford a PlayStation II or a GameCube for example. And since they can't afford buying new games, hence the 74 built in games:(

I wish I had something better to say, and could see this as a great console rebirth ( I personally love SMS's R-Type ), but it's not... it's simply a consequence of poverty.

Kisses,

jessie

Re:More companies should follow suit... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4787063)

Get an xbox (oooh evil M$) and a mod chip (oooh evil pirates), you can do exactly that then. Heck you don't even need a disc, they'll quite happily run from the hdd.

Re:More companies should follow suit... (4, Interesting)

JayBonci (92015) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787089)

The problem with those sorts of compilations (on a Gamecube disk or whatever) is that they feel like emulation. For instance the Intellivision classics disk for the Playstation felt like it was emulated. Besides the unique vantage point of not having a real INTV controller for it, the sound didn't have that 8-bit-crunch to it.

I worry about direct ports or emulation on consoles, because there are the issues or compatibility and accuracy. More often than not, something gets lost in the translation.

Now with some of the pirate tools, you get the best of both worlds, but you tarnish under the light of legality. Having a Bung copier or similar device to jack NES Rom images into an NES-compatible flash cart makes for 100% accurate games, with a huge availability, but by and large, it is illegal.

Companies are at a wierd impass in regards to their classic games. Should one distribute Nintendos with a huge bank of games built in, or release compiliation CDs with subquality compatibility.

Sadly, as I have purchased several of those "classics" emulations/ports for playstation I'd prefer the original hardware.

Oh and yes, NES still rules.

--jaybonci

Re:More companies should follow suit... (2)

Martigan80 (305400) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787116)

Well what is amazing is in Italy there is a company the has probably illegaly. You see it on the infomercials at night, some little system with all the build in games like Mario bros and such in a small package for around $50-$80. To bad the computers over here are still expensive though.

Re:More companies should follow suit... (2, Informative)

ParnBR (601156) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787192)

Tec Toy had legal rights for Master System console and games distribution in Brazil. All those games were legally distributed here, with licenses acquired from Sega (which sublicensed some other games, like Power Strike).

But (5, Funny)

D4M4DH477X0R (548464) | more than 11 years ago | (#4786984)

Ahh, but does it run Linux? :-)

Linux? (5, Funny)

quigleymd (247217) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787041)

No. But most certainly it will run netbsd...

BSD? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4787058)

I Thought BSD was dead....errrrr Dying. :-)

Re:Linux? (1)

snak0rific (317445) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787140)

can't linux run on a wristwatch or a cellphone? what makes you think it can't be ported to a sega? ARE YOU DAFT!

Game gear as well! But is it legal? (4, Interesting)

JayBonci (92015) | more than 11 years ago | (#4786987)

Well two things are interesting to note here. The first is that it seems to support Game Gear games as well. You can tell this because there was never a Sonic the Hedgehog (as per the screenshot)for the Master System... however there was one for the Game Gear, a nearly identical platform.

Also, I'd be worried about the legality of such an item. The brazilian piracy market is huge, and I'd be largely worried about any sort of retro console with a different design, and a lot of pack-in games. It seems largely like a pirated console with a large set of roms.

It also doesn't seem legal because of the presence of a 20-in-1 rom. Those are a favorite of pirate console and cartridge distributors. Some of them are neat as collectors' items, but by and large they are illegal.

Don't get me wrong, I'm intrigued by the possibility of older consoles making a decent comback, but this one certainly doesn't add up.

--jaybonci

Re:Game gear as well! But is it legal? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4786995)

Of course there was a Sonic for the Master System, and I think that's it. (The GG version had bigger sprites)

Re:Game gear as well! But is it legal? (2)

JayBonci (92015) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787010)

It seems you're right. There are listed around the web a few Sonic games for the Master System. I thought it was a genesis-original title.

Seems like you learn new stuff everyday. Even about archaic video games. ;)
--jaybonci

Re:Game gear as well! But is it legal? (2)

\\ (118555) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787042)

it IS a genesis original title.. it was then released for the master system, then game gear. supposedly the sms version was pretty good, too.

Re:Game gear as well! But is it legal? (5, Informative)

Swiss_Cheeseman (535724) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787086)

You americans are so clueless ;P

The master system was somewhat sucessful down here, and im pretty familiar with the platform.
This is just a short summary of all of the good sonic games released. Im not putting in crap like Sonic Spinball or Sonic Blast (not sonic 3d either, although sonic 3d wasnt really crap)
*Sonic 1 came first on the genesis/megadrive.
*A Master System version was made. Very different from the Genesis/Megadrive, but just as good, still heaps of fun.
*Game Gear port released. Same as master system but due to the game gears smaller screen (and less resolution) it was, well, smaller.
*Sonic 2 for the game gear got released first this time.
*Sonic 2 for the genesis/megadrive released
*Sonic 2 GG ported to the master system.
*Sonic Chaos released for the Game Gear. Best of the SMS/GG sonic series for some, although I prefer sonic 1. You coult use Tails as a playable character this time.
*Sonic Chaos ported to Master System. Average port, some slowdown.
*Sonic 3 released for the Genesis
*Sonic & Tails released for the GG in japan.
*Sonic & Tails released elsewhere as Sonic Triple Trouble. Never got ported officially to SMS, as it was pretty much dead by now in everywhere but brazil. If you looked around enough, you could probably find a crappy port, i dunno, but any brazillian GG -> SMS port is really REALLY bad, so avoid.

Re:Game gear as well! But is it legal? (1)

Swiss_Cheeseman (535724) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787092)

Im australian by the way, forgot to include that in my post. Im not brazillian =P Also, The SMS 3 has been out for ages in brazil, its nothing new.

Re:Game gear as well! But is it legal? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4787138)

> Sonic & Tails released elsewhere as Sonic Triple Trouble

I think it was Sonic and Knuckles, a huge MegaDrive cartridge with an expansion port for previous sonic games.

There's a story here somewhere, because the first 3 levels of Sonic and Knuckles are hidden on the Sonic 3 cartridge. It's very strange...

Re:Game gear as well! But is it legal? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4787012)

That's because the SMS and GG have the same engines. They're virtually teh same thing.

Re:Game gear as well! But is it legal? (1)

Swiss_Cheeseman (535724) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787103)

heh, im posting a lot in this thread. They were not identical, just very similar. The GG had a much larger pallet, which is why GG to SMS conversions seemed to be washed out, and had bad fade to black transitions, and on some of the really bad ports, due to the smaller screen on the GG, even had nasty disappearing sprites.

Re:Game gear as well! But is it legal? (2)

Skiboo (306467) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787021)

I have an legit cart of Sonic the Hedgehog for the Master System, I'm pretty sure it was made after the Megadrive/Genesis version, since there was still a market for the SMS at the time.

Re:Game gear as well! But is it legal? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4787023)

It's completely legit. Tec-Toy is the official Brazilian manufacturer/distributor of Sega machines and games.

Re:Game gear as well! But is it legal? (1)

alpharoid (623463) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787031)

Tec Toy is a big name in Brazil, and has already sold millions of Master System units, going way back to the 8-bit fever days. In fact, Brazil was probably the best market in the world for the SMS, as it sold reasonably more than the NES. They even got brave enough to program a few games themselves for the Brazilian market, including the 8-meg port of Street Fighter II. Properly licensed by Capcom, I might add.

It seems highly unlikely that they would openly pirate SMS games in a bundle like that. Piracy really is big in Brazil, but I'd be surprised to see it coming from such a large company.

Re:Game gear as well! But is it legal? (2)

JayBonci (92015) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787070)

If that's the case, then great. It doesn't really display the credentials of what us legality-twitchy Americans have come to expect from those sorts of clone machines. It no doubt is an interesting piece.

What really gets me is why publish a 20-in-1 cart with the console then? I know that wouldn't fly then, but I never saw the real gamer appeal (outside of the collector or hopeful collector like myself)... Typically the games in those multicarts are the same game, hacked several different ways, or a large multirom of pirated or poorly hacked together games.

Maybe it's a cultural difference between China/ Hong Kong/Brazil and the rest of the world in regards to the appeal of pirate multi-carts (100-n-1, 520-n-1, 10000-n-1). Quantity vs. Quality? The NES had a fair production of them, due to it's popularity, but honestly, this is the first mention of one I've heard of for the master system.

An interesting unit indeed.

In regards to the Capcom port, I have played several pirate originals of Street Fighter for the NES. The colors were a little yellow, the controls not the greatest, but it was far better than the other originals I have played and played. Do you know if the 8-bit port of SFII was for NES or for SMS?

Thanks
--jaybonci

Re:Game gear as well! But is it legal? (1)

alpharoid (623463) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787099)

You're right -- it's a cultural thing. Multicart consoles were especially big during the Atari 2600 days, when you could pack 200+ games into a console. None of them was any larger than 4k, and most were mediocre clones of mediocre games, but having a 2600 with 200 games meant you were more hardcore than the kid next door with an original, licensed console.

The SFII port was for the SMS. As far as I know, it's the only 8-meg title ever made for the console, but unfortunately that's its biggest selling point. Nowhere near as brilliant as the Japanese port for the PC-Engine, but certainly better than the bootleg SFII that I played on the NES!

Re:Game gear as well! But is it legal? (1)

Swiss_Cheeseman (535724) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787105)

I also played the port of SF2 for the sms. It is the best fighter on the system, period. Wanna play the worst? Play MK3 for the SMS! Not only is it the worst fighter on the master system, its the worst fighter in EXISTANCE!! I like the MK series and all, but damn, this is even worse than that monstrosity MK Advance.

Re:Game gear as well! But is it legal? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4787085)

You can tell this because there was never a Sonic the Hedgehog (as per the screenshot)for the Master System.

What?! Why do so many people think that? It always annoys me. There were numerous Sonic games for the Master System (ones on Game Gear were different). I owned Sonic 1 & 2 on SMS.

Re:Game gear as well! But is it legal? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4787119)

no fucking shit it's pirate, what are you going to ask next? is the sky blue?

Yes it is (2, Informative)

Retype (152669) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787223)

You really should get informed before posting, but that would be asking to much.

Tectoy is a great toy company here in Brasil and they are making master system and a lot of other sega consoles and games since I was very young(now i 'm 18). I'm sure they where granted by sega to make this console and all the games that come with it.

Also brasil is not comparable to china. Here we have patent law just like in the us. I don't know what you are afraid of, piracy is not legal here.

Legal? (3, Interesting)

taernim (557097) | more than 11 years ago | (#4786992)

Is this legal?
Sure, Sega isn't making hardware anymore, but how is the company allowed to make use of the product -- even modified?

Yes, it's legal. (5, Informative)

foobrain (411652) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787113)

Yes, it's legal. TecToy has all the Sega rights here in Brazil, from Master System to Dreamcast, including Mega Drive (Genesis in US) and Game Gear.

There are also "official game hacks" made by them, such as "Sapo Xulé", "Chapolim Colorado" and "Monica no Castelo do Dragão". They hacked some games (Psycho Fox, Alex Kidd etc) to sell based on some known characters.

Some games were also produced by them, such as the "Duke Nukem 3D" version of Mega Drive, a platform game of "Pica-Pau" (Woody Woodpecker) and "Show do Milhão" (Brazilian "hack" of the TV show "Who wanna be a millionaire?").

So it's not like those "Polystations" (damn horrible Famicom -- or NES -- clones inside a Playstation case) or those "controllers with a huge amount of games inside", it's just another version, such as those being released by Majesco.

Unfortunately it's a stripped-down Master System, so you don't have a slot to plug-in your 3D Googles or Sega Cards...

Re:Yes, it's legal. (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4787212)

3D Googles? I've seen no indication of this at labs.google.com! :)

Sonic as you've never heard him before (4, Funny)

Lonesmurf (88531) | more than 11 years ago | (#4786994)

"It helps Sonic to fight against the flock of metallic maniacs with its Attack of Supersonic Turn and to defeat the Dr. Ivo Robotnik. It saves the innocent animals before they are transformed into maleficent robots. Sonic and you only can prevent that this occurs. Either atomic! Either Sonic!" :)

Re:Sonic as you've never heard him before (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4787067)

Or what about Alex Kidd described as a "perverse black ninja" ?
And Alien Storm involving evil "foreigners" invading the planet Land?

NES Anyone? (2, Troll)

majestynine (605494) | more than 11 years ago | (#4786998)

Come on; anyone who grew up with the SMS and NES knew that the NES was the superior platform. Better games, more of them, better graphics and better sound.

Why aren't they releasing the NES instead of the SMS. I might pay for the NES, but there is no way I'd pay for the SMS now.

Besides, why would I bother with any of this anyways when I can play every single ROM for all those old school platforms on my Dreamcast [dcemulation.com] from a single CD!!

Re:NES Anyone? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4787015)

That's the funny thing. The NES came out later than the Master System, and thus had better inherent technology.

The Genesis slaughtered the nes. Why? It came out later. Better tech. The SNES slaughtered the Genesis. Why? See the above.

Arguably, the 32x didn't slaughter anything, but it did make a bunch of people laugh. However, one could argue that the SegaCD easily slaughtered the SNES. If not that, then the Saturn, which was slaughtered by the N64. Which was slaughtered by the Dreamcast.

Which itself was slaughtered by Sega because they have idiots in charge of marketing.

All this aside, there's only one reason that the NES was so popular. It had the killer app. It had Contra.

If you couldn't hum the tunes from the various levels, you were a nobody back then.

Re:NES Anyone? (3, Insightful)

\\ (118555) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787047)

actually, i don't know which came out first, but the sms had better hardware under the hood. nintendo just happened to snap up more and better companies to develop for the NES, and of course had that clause that said if you developed for nintendo, you couldn't deliver the same game to any other competing platform for something like two years.

that eventually changed, but by that time, the sms was pretty much toast.

Re:NES Anyone? (1)

lvdrproject (626577) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787087)

You forgot the PlayStation, which pretty much slaughtered everything. The Nintendo 64 didn't need to be slaughtered by anyone; just as you said Sega slaughtered the Dreamcast, so Nintendo did with the N64. Granted, the N64 had some great games (Goldeneye, Zelda, Perfect Dark, et al.), but for the most part it was riding on the wave of Nintendo's name.

:Lav

Re:NES Anyone? (1)

odin53 (207172) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787017)

Come on; anyone who grew up with the SMS and NES knew that the NES was the superior platform. Better games, more of them, better graphics and better sound.

Wrong! The reason why I bought the SMS [emucamp.com] when it came out was because it was technologically better than the NES [emucamp.com] -- more colors, more memory, more/bigger sprites, etc. The NES was better only because it had so many games for it, and so many good games. But the SMS definitely had better graphics and better sound.

Re:NES Anyone? (1)

xJoe (206912) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787233)

Better graphics, not better sound.

The big problem for the SMS was that there were nearly no good games for it.

Wooden panelling... (2)

flippet (582344) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787000)

Awww... it's just not the same without the wooden panelling from the first one...

Phil, just me

Re:Wooden panelling... (2)

Doomrat (615771) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787115)

You're confusing it with an Atari.

Re:Wooden panelling... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4787263)

All electronic devices should have some kind of wood panelling.

In Fascist USA (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4787001)

They have a Gestapo-like Department of Homeland Security.

Whats so new about this? (2)

eggstasy (458692) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787003)

Pirate consoles have always been made. SMS, NES, I think I even saw a SNES clone once. Heck you can still find plenty of Atari 2600 clones with 100 built-in games and, of course, a playstation-like case to fool the illiterate.
You can even get bootleg cartridges for them, with really weird games. Like, I once saw (and played) a Famicom clone with a cartridge that claimed to be "Street Fighter IV". And this was around the time that SF2 was still pretty popular. The graphics were crap, even by NES (or Famicom) standards, and the game was very buggy and amateurish.
Stay away from consoles who claim to have a bazillion games built-in: They're usually just different entry points into the same crappy game.

Classic console games still rule (4, Interesting)

Ivo (26920) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787009)

Hmm, I might even buy one of those sometime.

I still regret ever selling my atari 2600. Even though the graphics sucked in comparison with modern consoles, it was still good for hours and hours of fun.

I think the fun vs graphics ratio was much higher back then. Todays games look awesome, but gameplay usually bores after a few hours. I still much rather play 4d sports driving than any recent f1 simulator, and I was way more fascinated by and addicted to the original Mario than to todays 3d versions..

The game descriptions are hilariously translated (5, Funny)

Anik315 (585913) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787019)

Great Volleyball

This is a game repleto of intelligent booties, simply mortal estonteantes and cut attacks.

Uuuh right...

Re:The game descriptions are hilariously translate (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4787093)

If it's beach volleyball, do you shake your (intelligent) booties ?

Re:The game descriptions are hilariously translate (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4787169)

All your bootie are belong to us.

BABY! I will live with deeply emotive challenges! (3, Funny)

dagg (153577) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787025)

"... where you it will have the chance to live deeply emotive challenges."

That is one great game. Gotta love translators.

--

Deeply emotive sex quiz [tilegarden.com]

Re:BABY! I will live with deeply emotive challenge (2)

flippet (582344) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787102)

Hang On - "It pilots a motion poisoned in a emotive dispute."

...and I thought it was just a motorbike game.

All-in-one game systems are common in Asia too. (3, Interesting)

Ryu2 (89645) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787034)

All in one game systems are really common in Asian countries, particularly China, Taiwan, and Hong Kong. If you go to stores in any of those places, you can find systems (generally, clones of the NES/Famicom) with literally hundreds of games in ROM. The coolest system I saw had the entire system+games built into the form factor of a controller, which had RCA video output to plug in directly to your TV.

Of course, it's unauthorized, but still, many classic games have their endearing value, and it's easier than carrying around all those carts, or messing around with a emulator on your PC.

yeah, that's a bad thing :( (5, Informative)

protomala (551662) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787044)

Do you know why this is happening?
Well I do know and I can tell you, this because of a de-valorization of brazilian currency (real) that is making every imported product very expensive.
The big difference between videogames and computer was the price, but with low offer and a Dollar being 3.6 Reais, a ps2 (imported, sony dosen't build playstations here, they say because if piracy, but it's their fault there is piracy, it's kind sof loophelp) is R$ 1300 (there are varations).
Gamecube, that is build here by gradiente is arround same price.

Well, the thing is that
1. we get our sallaries in reais, not dollars, so rellatively, a videogame for us is almost 10 times the price in esa

2. the difference between "in development" contries from europe/usa/japan is bassically that we gain less money for the same job, so besides being more expensive, we have less money to expend too. The minimal sallary in brasil is R$ 200, the medium is R$ 500. How can you buy a product that is R$ 1300 if you have to pay for food/rent/live?

3. releasing older videogames is a way to make cheap videogames. Most poor people dosen't care if they videogame can play Final Fantasy X or DVDs, they don't have money for the games, cds or dvds anyway...

4. master system 3 price is arround R$ 300

5. I already forgot about buying a ps2 :P A psx is now more expensive then when I buyied mine (that time our currency was more close than dollar value).

6. the only sollution for all this problem is for semi-condutors where made in the own market contry.
But this won't happen, because USA is supporting heavilly those companies to stay there (see the case of microsoft judgement, they said they could move to canada and Bush's administration made a "cool" deal with them).

So basically tectoy is attacking a market that always existed here, but was dominated by illegal importation from paraguay: poor people.

I do like the idea. I do want poor people have fun with videogames too, even that are old ones and I hope tectoy do have suscess.

Re:yeah, that's a bad thing :( (1)

protomala (551662) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787059)

Just forgot to say why this is a bad thing: Poor people without money do buy a videogames shouldn't exists. Things in development countries should be less expensive, our sallaries should be bigger :)

Re:yeah, that's a bad thing :( (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4787127)

Sorry people, who want to read, please use the google translator. ;)

Faltou falar das taxas de importação de 70% que ajudam a tornar um importado 3 vezes mais caro do que lá. Um notebook por exemplo, legalmente importado custa R$10.000.

Not so new... (4, Informative)

Ratow (630493) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787048)

This kind of thing is not new here in Brazil. There is another company that makes NES clones. It has even more games... and a PISTOL! Here's the the page [dynacom.com.br] (in portuguese). http://www.dynacom.com.br/abertura2/dyn_fr_abertur a.htm And since you looove google translated pages [216.239.35.120] .

Based on the translated page... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4787068)

... it reads like they could make a franchise of 'All your base are belong to us' games.

Help! (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4787072)

Somebody set up us the bomb!

...old news is new again [sarcasm on] (5, Informative)

gmezero (4448) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787077)

This isn't really anything amazing. Tec Toy originally released this system back in 1989. Granted that release only has 21 games built into it at the time. I belive they released a second one in the mid 90's that had a larger number of titles. This is the same hardware, just more games built in. For more info on the SMSIII, check SegaBase [atani-software.net] ... scroll down the page about 1/2 way.

Re:...old news is new again [sarcasm on] (1)

Gax (196168) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787121)

It appears this is a misprint. If you look to the bottom of the same page it states:

- The Sega Master System II (U.S. and Europe, 1990)
- The Sega Master System III (Brazil, c.1987)

It is more likely that the Master System 3 was released in 1997.

Re:...old news is new again [sarcasm on] (1)

gmezero (4448) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787137)

Whatever... the point is, this isn't really hot news. This company has already released atleast one of these before in the past.

Re:...old news is new again [sarcasm on] (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4787246)

Just because you knew about it already doesn't mean everyone else did. Asshat.

This is great news, but (1)

Gax (196168) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787097)

... will there be a Sonic Adventure port? :)

On a more serious note, does anyone know of games currently being developed for the SMS? According to SMS Power the last game to be developed was in 1997.

Good machine translation. (2)

Futurepower(R) (558542) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787108)


"São jogos de aventura, ação, esportes, raciocínio e muito mais para você não querer largar mais o Master System."

should be translated as:

"There are games of adventure, action, sports, reasoning and much more so that you won't want to relinquish [stop playing] the Master System."

The machine translation is excellent, I think. It's amazing. In a time when companies often are doing self-destructive things, Google gets it right.

This one takes the cake (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4787120)

http://famiclone.emucamp.com/polystation/polystati on.htm

POLYstation? Does this thing scream Granny Fodder or what? (I saw this on an ad on an Italian local tv station, btw... for 99 euro...)

Right on! (2)

Rhinobird (151521) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787125)

I was scrolling through the list of games and saw Shinobi...does that mean that *ahem* Shinobi's back?

Old skool gamer speaks out (1, Flamebait)

rinkjustice (24156) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787131)

I can't see what the big stink is about. Sure these old games were fun, and maybe even now have a certain retro appeal to them, but this is not going to rock the gaming world. Namco's been pimping their old stuff for years now... whoopity-freakin-do.


I don't mean to be insultive, but I just don't understand what the big deals about (other than possible legal issues).

Re:Old skool gamer speaks out (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4787230)

You're quite right, though according to /. lore, this would be monumental for gaming if they were to be released on Linux, and a huge step forward towards Linux being desktop ready.

Damn Button! (1)

the-real-wormz (253964) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787133)

This is all good and well, but I distinctly remember spending hours with a kitchen knife trying to get the damn pause button back out while playing Alex the Kid on the Master System! Surely I wasn't the only one.

74? BFD (2)

DarkHelmet (120004) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787136)

The thing to get excited about: it will include 74 games built-in.

I can get a dreamcast with 500 or so SMS built into it if I burn a mame cd and tape the cd player shut..

Huh huh, that'd be cool.

nostalgia based revenue? (2)

SystematicPsycho (456042) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787143)

I used to love the days of playing sonic and wonder boy all weekend on a master system - also had a game gear. Other than playing these games for 'remember the good old days' purposes this is a poor man's console. The console probably costs next to nicks to manufacture and the games are already there, probably an idea that won't cost much and will sell in time for christmas.

as a brazilian... (5, Interesting)

wneto (624292) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787172)

i can say its pretty sad. While some of you think about the "nostalgic cool factor", its just an economic solution for us. Brazils minimum wage is around $54 USD (R$200 - yey), so this console is one of the very few afordable eletronic gadgets avaiable for this xmass. Everyone wants a ps2 or a xbox.. but they cost around r$1800 ($493 usd) and the games around r$180 ($49 usd). The only solution then its to revive old gadgets with the technology avaiable, as importing anything right now is practically impossible. A few days ago i started to get the catalogs and it was really scary. The latest pentium 4 3ghz box? Not less than r$10k. A tablet pc? not less than $15k. Something to give you an idea: a new car, built here, starts at r$13k.

- Dad. I want a xbox!
- No can do, son. Heres your 8 bit master system.

- Dad. I want a new box. I cant play any new games on this pentium 133.
- Ok son, heres your pentium 233.

- Dad. I want a tablet pc.
- No can do son. Dont you prefer a brand new car? Its cheaper!

aargh!

Yes. It is sad.

I still have Mine (4, Insightful)

evilviper (135110) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787206)

I still have a Sega Master System.

Sure, I had an Atari, but it wasn't much of a gaming machine. Back then, you'd still have to go to the arcade with quarters to play something decent.

When I got a Master System, that was when I really got into games. I was hooked on Wonder Boy in Monster Land, and play it to this day... It isn't really that difficult to beat, but it's fun just the same.

Wonder Boy, Out Run, Shinobi... Those games are one of a rare breed that never get boring, and yet you can't find them on newer systems. What's it take? 20 years before a great game is considered worthy of being ported to the newest platform as a "classic"?

But it seems as if everyone but me has forgotten the past. Why is it that, up until about the 32-bit days, almost every game was enjoyed by everyone? Now, you are forced to rent/try a game first, because it's more rare to find a game you'll like than one you wont. It seems that, as graphics got better, and storage was increased, the game developers started doing their jobs far worse than before.

Why oh why have games gone down this path? What was so special about the <32-bit days that no one can emulate today? Well, whatever it is, I'm not worried about it. Unlike CDs, my old carts have been around for many years, and will be here for years to come. And generations from now, no matter how much games improve, I bet just about anyone would still enjoy playing any of these old games as much as I do. Maybe they'll even ask themselves why modern games aren't as much fun as the ancient ones.

In SOVIET RUSSIA..... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4787232)

REBORN IS SEGA MASTER SYSTEM

Hang On! (1)

krypt0n0mic0n (586368) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787234)

Hang On
It pilots a motion poisoned in a emotive dispute.

What's that got to do with motorcycles, let alone...well...darn near everything?

It's not a flame, I used to play the game all the time. Im glad to see a (potential) comeback of this system.

Comments on the Brazilian videogame market (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4787245)

The Brazilian videogame market is a legacy gamer's dream come true.

Consoles rarely cease to be manufactured and sold. Any mainstream store has, at this very moment, Master Systems, Mega Drives, Saturns, Dreamcasts, NES, SNES, Nintendo 64s, Game Cubes, Playstations and Playstation 2s. Just walk into the store now and buy your shiny, new, Master System or NES system. All legal.

Why do they do that? Price. There's something for everybody there. Furthermore, many stores allow their customers to play all the consoles and you'd be surprised, sitting near the testing stations, to learn that most young kids actually prefer 16-bit era games. They are just simpler and cuter, and mom and dad can actually buy one for each child in the home and maybe also one as a gift for a good neighbour.

pc! (1)

HTSlayer (630505) | more than 11 years ago | (#4787268)

buying a new SMS is useless! u can play SMS, Neo Geo, GBA and lots of other roms and emulators in your PC and get those R$300 to buy another HD or so yea, the minimum wage here is like U$54 but lots of ppl i know have a ps2 or xbox the problem is the country is divided between ppl too poor and ppl too rich and the middle term is quite absent. so why would u buy a new SMS if u can get it and all the games for free on the internet?
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