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Finnish Taxi Drivers Must Pay Music Royalties

chrisd posted more than 11 years ago | from the humming-also-billable dept.

Music 588

jonerik writes "According to this story from Ananova, Finland's Supreme Court has ruled that taxi drivers must pay royalty fees of about $20 annually if they play music in their car while a customer is in the backseat. According to the article, 'Lauri Luotonen, chairman of the Helsinki Taxi Drivers' Association, says the ruling is likely to force most drivers to keep their radios off.'" This includes if they play the radio, which ostensibly already pays such fees.

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Jennifer (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4806923)

I love you so much.
Goodnight to you, too.
Sweet dreams.

Re:Jennifer (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4806954)

I love you so much.
I'm leaving you for a finnish cab driver.

Goodnight to you, too.

It's daylight in Finland, I was lying to you.

Sweet dreams.

I made my dreams come true, now I just sleep. Sorry, I hate you know. Please don't ever call me again. You are a pathetic loser trying to woo someone by posting on /. Go get a job and a car, then move out of your parents basement, it will go further for your next girlfriend.

Some luck lady... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4807064)

Man some chick doesn't know that she's going to be hooking up with who we know as "The Goatse Guy"

First post, what the hell. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4806925)

FP.

YOU FAIL IT! (-1)

Failure Guy (627040) | more than 11 years ago | (#4806948)

A pathetic FAILURE. You were so close, but with first posts, a second post is a FAILURE!

YOU FAIL IT!

For listening..... (5, Funny)

dextr0us (565556) | more than 11 years ago | (#4806927)

Now, this just in. If you listen to music, while someone other than the person who bought the CD is in the room, you must pay $20 annually to RIAA.

That is all.

Re:For listening..... (1, Troll)

garcia (6573) | more than 11 years ago | (#4806944)

don't give that bitch any ideas, please...

Re:For listening..... (3, Funny)

Henry V .009 (518000) | more than 11 years ago | (#4806975)

Martha Stewart, Sharon Osbourne, or Hillary Rosen?

Re:For listening..... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4807041)

Didn't you know? They're the same person.

Re:For listening..... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4807060)

Moderators, what the hell is so funny about that? This is in essence exactly what the Finnish Supreme Court decided, with the one provision that money is being made in the vicinity. There's no reason now the RIAA can't go after your office if you listen to the radio while you work, or hear the radio played by the coworker in the next cubicle.
How the fuck did we get to a point where possibly the least important industry imaginable has such immense, outrageous, incomprehensible-to-our-ancestors influence and power?

Re:For listening..... (1)

dextr0us (565556) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807090)

i'll bite.

read on later, and realize that they already do do this in the USA. Some companies have blanket ASCAP liscences so that they can use copywrited songs in their corporate videos, as well as listen to pretty much any music they want to.

yeah, so yeah.....

Re:For listening..... (2, Interesting)

taugenix (602325) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807087)

...yeah, and soon you'll get charged for hearing the music blasting from the sub-woofer-on-wheels passing through your neighborhood! Time to get out the plugs and blinders!

This concept exists here in America too. (4, Informative)

Blaede (266638) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807099)

Any business establishment that plays music (retail stores especially) in earshot of all customers must pay royalties (figure unknown to me). Not everyone pays, it mostly is enforced against large retail and department store chains. The upshot of the law is a clerk can have a small radio at their station, but if you broadcast music over the store speaker system, then you must pay.

IN SOVIET RUSSIA (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4806929)

Gotese gets first post

fp? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4806930)

fp der derm de derm te terdely tum dumb

YOU FAIL IT! (-1)

YOU FAIL IT! (624257) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807004)

What is that you are humming? Is it the song of FAILURE? How very appropriate - you are a FAILURE!

YOU FAIL IT!

In Soviet Russia... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4806932)

In Soviet Russia, Music Royalties must pay Finnish Taxi Drivers!

(and must not wait 20 seconds to post)

In SOVIET RUSSIA (5, Funny)

Goalie_Ca (584234) | more than 11 years ago | (#4806980)

RADIO listens to you!

Re:In SOVIET RUSSIA (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4807077)

Using a tired, old Fark cliche on Slashdot is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if someone laughs at you, you're still retarded.

This comment is brought to you by Dr Pepper.

Re:In SOVIET RUSSIA (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4807086)

ok, i'm trying to use the search to find the first occurance of the "soviet russia reversals" but can't seem to find it. anybody feel like helping?

Yowch. (4, Informative)

Freston Youseff (628628) | more than 11 years ago | (#4806933)

That's almost more outrageous than the tarrifs you have to pay when entering and exiting San Fransisco in a taxi. Sheesh!

What if... (5, Funny)

crazyprogrammer (412543) | more than 11 years ago | (#4806935)

...they sing to the customer in the backseat? Would they still have to pay royalty fees?

Re:What if... (2, Insightful)

ethanms (319039) | more than 11 years ago | (#4806950)

unless the song is public domain... yes... they would have to pay licensing fees to use the lyrics.

Re:What if... (5, Funny)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 11 years ago | (#4806993)

What if they sing to the customer in the backseat?

Oh great! Now we will have to pay them extra NOT to sing. Either way, the cost of taxi rides will go up.

Probably (2, Funny)

Vicegrip (82853) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807135)

If you sing well, you'll only get sued by RIAA for stealing their copyrighted words.
If you sing badly you'll still get sued by RIAA, but then your customer will probably sue you as well for emotional duress.
Maybe if you just humm the music out-loud... no, thats probably patented somewhere.

what if? (1)

GoatPigSheep (525460) | more than 11 years ago | (#4806937)

They are playing their own recording of finnish folk songs they taped in their basement. Would they have to pay royalties to play their own music?

I guesse this could ruin the careers of many finnish taxi drivers/musicians.

Re:what if? (5, Insightful)

Hanzie (16075) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807031)

Depends on the copyright of the songs. If they were all public domain, no.

Now, all the driver would have to do is prove it. Annually. With expensive lawyers.

Yes, he would have to go to court to prove it, because the local RIAA clone would want to make it expensive to buck their system. To that end, they would benefit from spending several thousand to bring doubt into the mind of a jury that he really didn't stick to public domain music only.

Then, after 'proving' him a liar, they'd hit him with punitive damages as hard as possible to keep all the other sheep in line.

Things are getting bad, and they're only going to get worse. This crap will continue.

I really can't believe it... (2)

Psx29 (538840) | more than 11 years ago | (#4806938)

this is something that people _joke_ about please tell me this isn't for real?

this crap makes me sick... (2, Insightful)

ethanms (319039) | more than 11 years ago | (#4806939)

at least this isn't in america... but what is this world coming to? What's with all these fee's tacked on to everything?!!

One thing I've noticed is that a "$35/mo" cell phone plan isn't even questioned when the bill arrives for $40.83... That's $5.83 in taxes and fees! 17% taxes/fees... plus you pay a sales tax on the phone in most states... and an income tax on the money you used to buy the phone...

At least in Sweden when you pay the 90% income tax up front you know you're getting hosed.

Re:this crap makes me sick... (2)

Cyno01 (573917) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807002)

Yeah, and you cant even get cell fone plans that are cheaper then $35/mo. I dont need 4000 minutes a month, i cant even use up the $5 i pre-pay every 30 days when it expires.

Re:this crap makes me sick... (5, Interesting)

night_flyer (453866) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807098)

oh, but it is!

Girls Scouts must pay to sing songs...

"Starting this summer, the American Society of Composers, Authors & Publishers has informed camps nationwide that they must pay license fees to use any of the four million copyrighted songs written or published by Ascap's 68,000 members. Those who sing or play but don't pay, Ascap warns, may be violating the law."

the story [s-t.com]

Re:this crap makes me sick... (1)

geekee (591277) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807109)

Someone has to pay for the T1 lines going to all the high schools. The govt. figures that might as well be phone users.

Re:this crap makes me sick... (1)

Hellasboy (120979) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807130)

A friend of mine got in trouble for playing the local radio station over his restaurants speakers. I forgot exactly who it was, but they said that he would have to pay up if he wants to play radio stations and that all restaurants have to do this.

Oh, and this is in Colorado.

enforcement? (5, Insightful)

Jucius Maximus (229128) | more than 11 years ago | (#4806943)

How will the authorities know if the taxi driver had the radio turned on or off? Will they have a sting operation where an undercover officer hails a taxi, gets in, and then busts the the driver if they turn on the radio but haven't payed the fee?

Re:enforcement? (5, Insightful)

ethanms (319039) | more than 11 years ago | (#4806987)

tattlers built in and required to obtain a taxi license... chances are the companies would simply pay the $20/yr and then raise fares an unequal (most likely to their advantage) amount to offset it...

Would you really notice an extra 25 cents average per fare? But if a cabbie gets 10-15 fares per day, and works 350 days/yr... over $900/yr =)

Re:enforcement? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4807085)

The same way they find out about restaurants playing the radio (yes, they must pay the tithe too) or you sharing P2P. There will be no shortage of low-ethic greaseballs tired of telemarketing and willing to make money as IP Pinkertons.

Re:enforcement? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4807143)

Will they have a sting operation where an undercover officer hails a taxi, gets in, and then busts the the driver if they turn on the radio but haven't payed the fee?

Actually yes, that's more than likely. Even now, in the US, if you run a public business (retail store, barber shop, etc) and you play music in your established, you have to be licensed. The main company that does this is Musac [sp?]. I've heard of a number of cases of representatives of such companies coming to businesses, and threatening them with fines for playing music without having paid.

pay up taco (5, Funny)

yali (209015) | more than 11 years ago | (#4806946)

The slashdot editors owe me a buck for everybody that reads this comment.

Re:pay up taco (3, Funny)

geekoid (135745) | more than 11 years ago | (#4806981)

"The slashdot editors owe me a buck for everybody that reads this comment."

bend over... ;)

Winky added for the humor impaired.

Re:pay up taco (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4807106)

Oh really? I thought your comment just worth 2c.

Re:pay up taco (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4807122)

Wow! The most valuable slashdot comment ever!

Duh ... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4806947)

Man, this is getting to a level of stupidity that makes me wonder if I should go back home to Pluto ...

Who collects? (2)

eigerface (526490) | more than 11 years ago | (#4806949)

I mean, is there a trust fund for starving Finnish Artists?

This borders on the most absurd story I have ever heard.

What about elevators? Is that a separate suit?

In Fascist America (0)

MeatMan (593183) | more than 11 years ago | (#4806952)

We tax the tips waiters & waitresses make. Next up... Elevator music royaltie fees for large building owners.

At what point do artists intend to step in? (2, Interesting)

harm5way (616066) | more than 11 years ago | (#4806953)

Or do music interests in Finland not care about their 'art' and only profit? Does anyone know how music in Finland is copyrighted with such vehemence? What's the deal?

Makes no sense... (0, Troll)

McFly69 (603543) | more than 11 years ago | (#4806956)

What if the music played is their own music that they made? Do they still have to pay? i kinda doubt it.

What if they are playing soem Pakastanky or Afganisy moanign and winning music? Do the drivers have to pay $20 to the customers who are forced to listen to that crap? Doubt it, but would be cool tho.

Re:Makes no sense... (1, Troll)

Cruciform (42896) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807076)

Wow, aren't you a prejudiced prick.

Re:Makes no sense... (1, Flamebait)

McFly69 (603543) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807105)

Dam straight, digital extreme fatso!

Its like double taxation (2, Redundant)

Goalie_Ca (584234) | more than 11 years ago | (#4806959)

Radio stations already pay a hefty fee so the music is free for everyone to hear. Maybe in the future when RIAA pays off congress i'll have to turn down the music in my "pimpin" car because someone might overhear it.

Front Page News? (0, Flamebait)

Elbereth (58257) | more than 11 years ago | (#4806971)

Is there some way I can filter out news about Finland's music industry? Before it too gets front page news, I would like to preemtively filter out all news of the music industry in Bolivia, Greenland, the Ukraine, and Poland. Thank you.

Re:Front Page News? (1)

prichardson (603676) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807062)

Why is this news!?

This is news because if shit like this doesn't get kicked down yesterday it will spread to whatever egotistical, isolationist place your from.

Taxi Fare + Radio Fee (2, Insightful)

very (241808) | more than 11 years ago | (#4806973)

Well then they can ask the passenger if they want to listen to the radio, then charge them a minimal fee for the royalty. As long as it is REPORTED.
or add 1 cent/passenger.
That shouldn't be too expensive.

But IMHO, it's ridiculous to impose this ordinance.

not again! :( (4, Funny)

radiumhahn (631215) | more than 11 years ago | (#4806974)

This is getting out of hand. Will someone please punish these people and send them to bed without their royalties?

Re:not again! :( (1)

matty619 (630957) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807009)

ha-ha -M@

This is terrible! (1)

prichardson (603676) | more than 11 years ago | (#4806977)

My god! What happened to fair use! This is the most disgusting and blatant consumer rights violation since not labeling copy crippled cd's.

Let us hope that more than just the /. crown and a handful of taxi drivers are outraged at this atrocity!

This is a public performance (5, Funny)

Hanzie (16075) | more than 11 years ago | (#4806979)

If you use copyrighted materials for public performance for benefit of the business, you have to pay extra.

It's the same thing as running a TV or radio in the waiting room of a business. The business is getting a benefit from the music, so they have to pay a cut.

There's also a group of old ladies who go to restraunts and pretend that one of them is having a birthday. If one of the employees sings "Happy Birthday" a copywrited song, they sue. This apparently keeps them in bingo money.

I hate it too, but that's the law. If you don't like it, get filthy stinking rich, and buy new ones.

Re:This is a public performance (-1)

longhairedgnome (610579) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807038)

is happy birthday still copywrited? looks like i wont be singing for jesus this year, but i'm sure he'll understand

Re:This is a public performance (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4807129)

If one of the employees sings "Happy Birthday" a copywrited song, they sue.

Unless one of them happens to be the owner of said copyright, the business can tell them to shove off. If they are in fact the copyright holder, I highly doubt they need to go around to local businesses to keep themselves in the bingo money. There are quite a few movies that have birthdays in them where that song is sung. I'm sure the film industry didn't have a problem dropping a few thousand for the rights.

Too bad Linus didn't stay in his homeland (-1)

PhysicsGenius (565228) | more than 11 years ago | (#4806984)

This would be a great niche for Linux to occupy!

OUTRAGEOUS. (0, Flamebait)

mesmartyoudumb (471890) | more than 11 years ago | (#4806986)

The JUDANS in the RIAA Need to be burned at the stake. In soviet finland..you must pay 20$ if you sing a copyrighted song in public.

Radio isn't free? (3, Interesting)

ekephart (256467) | more than 11 years ago | (#4806989)

I don't know how the airwaves work in Finland, but in the US I would assume that's why they are called public airwaves. The stations pay royalties and in turn collect advertising revenue. Whatever.

Anyway does this apply to only music stations? What if they listen to the Finnish equivalent of NPR? Or the BBC?

Re:Radio isn't free? (1)

Venti (613003) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807011)

I live in finland and I havn't yet discovered a radio station that would only broadcast news... I havn't really tried to eather.

Online Petition to Stop these Music Royalties! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4806996)

Please, support the petition [tinyurl.com] that we are sending to the Finnish Government to protest this outrageous and unfair act. As a close relative of mine in Finland is a taxi driver and barely makes enough to support his family, these kinds of royalties are putting him out of money. With enough signitures, we can let the Finnish government know that we will not stand for it.

Standard RIAA practice. Theft, search and seizure. (5, Interesting)

teamhasnoi (554944) | more than 11 years ago | (#4806997)

If I am a cab driver in Finland and play a CD of music of my own composition, I would still be required to pay. They assume that *ALL* music is owned or otherwise *protected* by them.

More proof that the RIAA is ripping off artists. When Napster was required to remove all songs under RIAA copyright, the RIAA was supposed to provide a list. They couldn't. IIRC, they just insisted that Napster should somehow *know* which ones were and which ones weren't.

Perhaps this will be used as an argument for DRM, Hollings Style!

Re:Standard RIAA practice. Theft, search and seizu (1)

dextr0us (565556) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807061)

NOT RIAA

probably the RIAF or RIFA (recording industry association of AMERICA)

But you aren't/won't (2, Insightful)

ArchieBunker (132337) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807114)

Theres roughly a 0.00003% chance of me getting into a taxi in finland and the driver playing a cd of his own band. Get real. You have a better chance of winning the powerball lottery. This is nothing more than a socialist government wanting a cut of something.

Fortunatly (2)

geekoid (135745) | more than 11 years ago | (#4806998)

for me, I drive a taxi thats not quite done.

Unbelievable (1)

Tugar (316285) | more than 11 years ago | (#4806999)

Party A buys or leases a commodity from Party B. Party B charges a fee to Party C for just looking at (or listening to)the commodity purchased by Party A.

Are the economic conditions in Finland so bad that the judiciary can be bought off this way?

Bjork (1)

dextr0us (565556) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807000)

Is bjork finnish? she seems to be the only recording artist making money internationally (and that was a few years ago). I guess teh artists need this, except that they'll never see a penny.

Re:Bjork (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4807028)

No she is an eskimo.

ICELAND (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4807074)

Bjork is from Iceland.

Re:Bjork (1)

damiam (409504) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807111)

I believe she's from Iceland.

Rediculous... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4807015)

This is friggin rediculous. Pretty soon someones gonna come up with taxes to breathe in some country somewhere. These corporate guys need to get a life!

Legally it's logical. . . (1)

Casaubon (162022) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807016)

but it's still stupid
In the USA if you so much as play the radio over your office's intercom, then you also have to play royalties since it's considered "commercial space".

The court is merely saying that the taxi cab is a "commercial space" as well.

Wow (0)

MeatMan (593183) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807022)

I used to think it would be cool to live in Finland. I thought they were a mellow, friendly, low-key kinda country. They are hard asses. Check out this link about traffic some fines in Finland... HARDCORE. Looks like they base their fines on a percentage of your YEARLY income... doh!

OOPS (0)

MeatMan (593183) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807044)

Link was messed up... HARDCORE [ananova.com]

Download WHAT??? (2)

TheSHAD0W (258774) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807033)

Songwriters Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller, responsible for such hits as "Hound Dog" and "Jailhouse Rock," are among the plaintiffs and were in the courtroom Monday. The song writing duo said illegal copying of music and movies was costing artists millions and would ultimately stifle creativity.

Oh yeah, like anyone'd pay money for these songs otherwise... If anything, these guys are stifling the creativity of brand new artists by locking up the business of music in the name of the labels.

Oops! (2)

TheSHAD0W (258774) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807069)

Submitted under the wrong article. Sorry folks.

Advertisers? (1)

md358 (587485) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807035)

That sounds dumb.... aren't these stations making money off advertisers? Wouldn't a captive audience in a taxi mean more people hearing the commercials? That's the logic behind the annoying radio stations they play in dentists' offices.

It isn't already paid for? (5, Insightful)

vga_init (589198) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807037)

While listening to the radio, the first thing you notice is the advertising. Advertising on the radio is really hefty (at least on the stations I listen to), and don't think the broadcasters aren't making a pretty penny off of it, a reasonable portion of which is being put towards paying royalties. Why? Because the broadcasters are playing the songs, so they're the one's who've got to pay the royalties.

This makes me wonder how the taxi driver fits into this picture at all, economically speaking. Are the taxi drivers making money off of the radio? Do they charge people extra to listen to the radio? Do people frequent taxi services that play the radio more often than those who don't? Probably not, so why are they being forced to pay up? It just seems wrong.

My question (2, Interesting)

matty619 (630957) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807043)

is who do they pay these royalties to? Are they divided up equally among all artists? FUBAR -M@

Administrative Fees (2)

Sean Clifford (322444) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807123)

Well, yes they get divided equally based on a Byzantine formula ensuring that (a) the label won't have to pay anyone anything because of the tiny fractions and (b) that the administrative fees and other overhead accumulated in simply processing the payment, keeping track, etc. results in a small charge against each artist's account - deducted from royalties due.

Phew! (5, Funny)

rainmanjag (455094) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807045)

Phew... that's a load off my mind... cause I'm sure the RIAA or their equivalent in Finland (unlike cab drivers) are *really* hurting for money... and I hope this serves as a precedent for anybody that plays music in their workplace... because God forbid, when I go see my accountant, and he's got the radio playing in the background, that filthy pirate is stealing the fruits of hard labor by the record executives...

-jag

They're being made to pay twice? (2)

Anonvmous Coward (589068) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807053)

This includes the radio too? If this were satellite radio (that requires a subscription) that would sort of make sense. (Note: I'm not saying I endorse it, I'm only saying it makes sense.) Open air radio, though, is paid for by listening to the ads. Unless Finnish Taxis have some magic radio-ad-filtering technology I don't know about, then a passenger listening to the radio is paying for it by listening to the ads.

Re:They're being made to pay twice? (1)

GrimSean (545405) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807116)

Well then, some of this money should go to the radio stations. Less advertising = more music - it makes sense to me, but then again, we all know that record execs don't have much sense (plus, I suppose they have to pad their salaries somehow).

Doh!!!!!!! (1)

Stumbles (602007) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807054)

That has to be a joke otherwise the world can forget about the hand basket because it's already in hell.

easy solution. (1)

archen (447353) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807065)

no problem, just have a station on with nothing but talk radio. Might give a chatty cab driver more reason to talk to the passengers too.

You know it's bad (-1)

Dwaynewayne (463999) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807080)

When the CE says to you:

"I'm not sure what you mean by telnet."

Umm, PROVE IT (0)

JTMON (313481) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807083)

I'd love to know just how they plan on enforcing this. Secret Taxi riders checking on them? This is where the world is headed. Hope you're all ready for it.

Carpoolers, Biz Travellers - Do they pay next? (3, Interesting)

Sean Clifford (322444) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807088)

Read the article, interesting take. Those crazy Finns and their free alternative operating systems and hitherto free music.

Okay, say you're in a carpool to and fro work. Everyone chips in for gas and whatnot while you listen to your latest mix CD, you're travelling for business - but not as a business. Probably, no - you won't pay. But what about a business trip?

But what if you're using a company car to go pick up Vinnie The Venture Capitalist at the airport and you play a mix of his favorite music. Do you have to pay then?

What about a birthday party for little Alex? Do I have to pay for playing his favorite mp3 playlist over my home stereo?

Why doesn;t the music industry.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4807093)

go fsck itself already.
Bleed to the last drop.

why don't you pay us to listen?

The reasoning behind it (5, Insightful)

geekee (591277) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807096)

I believe they want to charge cab drivers because taxi services are businesses that make money. By playing the radio, you are "enhancing" the taxi ride experience, and the music industry thinks they should be compensated. I don't necessarily agree with this philosophy, so don't flame me please. Just thought I'd point out what the issue is really about.

Bus (2)

Malicious (567158) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807110)

What happens to me, when my headphones are loud enough, that others on the Bus can hear it? Is that my fault, or the Transit company, for not telling me to turn it down?

Isn't radio a form of advertisment? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4807112)

Passenger: Hey thats a great song. I hope they say the artists name so I can buy it.

*Taxi-Driver turns off radio*

Taxi-Driver: Damn, you were not supposed to hear that. Please don't tell my superiors.

Passenger: But I didn't get the artists name!

$20 fee (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4807113)

I knew some day that it would come to this point. The RIAA will get this passed too .. because they like micro$oft have the govurnment in their back pocket

I feel sorry... (-1)

4titleist (153381) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807115)

for Linus. No more brittney in the taxi to the airport...

go ahead and laugh, you know its funny!!

Now imagine... (2, Funny)

SILIZIUMM (241333) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807119)

Now imagine if the taxi driver is listening to Metallica...

How Poor Are these Guys? (2)

zanerock (218113) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807120)

Not that I'm not concerned for the social implications and rights and such, but:

'Lauri Luotonen, chairman of the Helsinki Taxi Drivers' Association, says the ruling is likely to force most drivers to keep their radios off.'

So, they can't afford $20 a year? I think the other part of this story is why do Finnish cab driver's make such a crappy salary?

okay so ... (2)

valmont (3573) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807132)

... we, in America, are not the only ones with retarded monopoly-nurturing copyright laws. as King Tut said to Anna: "thank you, for humble validation". this is good. this is very good.

Crazy Taxi... (1)

Natchswing (588534) | more than 11 years ago | (#4807142)

So does this mean if I play Crazy Taxi that if I keep the sound on I get less of a tip from the customers? Nothing's worse than them stepping out of the taxi in the middle of my drive because they're unsatisfied.

Now, if the taxi driver drives past some kids in the street with their portable stereo thumping, do the kids have to pay the fee too? This would really quiet down my neighborhood at night.

The taxi driver needs to start billing the artists for the advertising he's providing for them.

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