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Farscape to Return? Is Sci-Fi Channel Redeemed?

chrisd posted more than 11 years ago | from the john-edwards-is-a-big dept.

Television 236

Cyno01 writes "I was just watching Firefly and switching to Taken during commercials (i'm a thief i know), and I caught a commercial for Sci-Fi 2003. It looks like there's going to be a few new actual sci-fi shows, and some not. Tremors: The Series, Children of Dune and another talkshow-esq looking thing called The Dream Team with Annabelle and Michael. Also it looks like Stargate: SG1 and yes, Farscape, are still alive and kicking."

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Television... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4832242)

People still watch Television?

I thought that went out of style after they cancelled ST:TNG?

Tremors The SerieS!!!! (5, Funny)

puto (533470) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832244)

Nooo lord please no.... I am puring kerosene in my eyes now.


Who's more desperate for acting work... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4832266)

...Fred Ward, or Michael Gross? IMDB has Michael Gross listed in the cast of the series, so I guess he's the winner.

When will we see "A Very Special Tremors: The Series" with appearances by Meredith Baxter, Michael J. Fox, Justine Bateman, and Tina Yothers?

Will Skippy and Nick have brief appearances as Graboid victims?

Re:Tremors The SerieS!!!! (2)

henben (578800) | more than 11 years ago | (#4833098)

The first Tremors movie was great. So there.

Re:Tremors The SerieS!!!! (1)

FatRatBastard (7583) | more than 11 years ago | (#4833175)

So was the second in a very B- movie way. I always end up watching it when I run across it on TBS. Haven't seen number 3, so I don't know if its crap or not.

Re:Tremors The SerieS!!!! (1)

UnixRevolution (597440) | more than 11 years ago | (#4833111)

I thought the tremors movies, though hokey and kinda un-scientific (as they were probably meant to be) were very entertaining. I'm looking forward to the series. BTW, i visited the tremors series webpage and took this from the description of the infra-red seeking, lion-sized bipedal shrieker:

"These extremely dangerous creatures reproduce hermaphroditically -- in effect, each Shrieker is "born" pregnant."

great. carnivorous tribbles. I wonder if these actually *do* like klingons? :)

Last night's Firefly (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4832246)

Way to go, FOX! Bolster the ratings with that little lesbian scene that was so prominently featured on the commercials.

And God bless TiVo, which let me record the show and blow through it to find that scene in record time without having to sit through the whole, boring episode-- it's all I wanted to see. :-)

possibly (5, Informative)

RobertTaylor (444958) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832251)

Why no link [] directly to the latest farscape news? Or perhaps the Cancellation FAQ [] and get some real facts!

A novel concept for /. no doubt ;)

Re:possibly (3, Informative)

StormcallerESC (626650) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832782)

Because there is no latest Farscape news there, and the cancellation FAQ is out of date and, for the most part, PR propoganda. For some real up to date news and facts, try [] .

Its good to hear (0, Redundant)

The Analog Kid (565327) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832253)

I never watched the show, but I know a lot of people who do. They were very upset when they heard that they were cancelling the show. When that happened they wrote a lot of emails, and made many phone called to the Sci-Fi channel. Now I'll be able to bring them some good news if that don't know already.

Farscape (4, Informative)

cat_jesus (525334) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832256)

Is still canceled.

Re:Farscape (2)

macdaddy357 (582412) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832303)

They can't afford to produce Farscape, and pay for the rights to rerun Lost In Space, so they are going with Lost In Space. That show was such a hit that the Star Dreck people ripped it off to make Voyager.

Re:Farscape (0, Flamebait)

spazoid12 (525450) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832955)

Praise Jesus! That show sucks!

I hope they burn the old footage so that re-runs will never happen.

Farscape (4, Informative)

zaren (204877) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832258)

Don't forget that they finished shooting the rest of hte shows for this seasn, and SciFi has stated that they will be releasing those shows starting in January. It's possible they're going to continue the series... then again, it's possible they're just using the material they have left, with no intention to continue the series past the new episodes they've shot.

Re:Farscape (5, Informative)

Photon Ghoul (14932) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832289)

Exactly. Just because they are still promoting the final episodes of the series does not mean that it is now back in production. They are simply trying to squeeze what they can out of the rest of their investment by promoting the last of the season.

*mumbles something about a Slashdot story based off of some guy's malinformed impression of a TV commercial he saw as he was swapping back and forth between two shows*

Only the remainder of Farscape... (4, Informative)

CuriousKangaroo (543170) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832260)

They're only going to be showing the still unaired last half of the fourth season of Farscape.

After that, it's over, ending in a helluva cliffhanger.

No Farscape for you!

No, sorry (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4832261)

IIRC, they still had some episodes to air in the new year when we all head it was cancelled.

I thought... (5, Interesting)

Hawkeye_RC5 (258133) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832263)

That Sci-Fi was going to air the last few episodes of Season 4 somewhere in 2003. If this is what the original poster saw, then this is a non-event.

What would be really interesting, and my question for Santa Claus this year, is that SciFi is going for another Season of Farscape, and perhaps even more. I know, it costs a lot of money, but it's damn well the best (Sci Fi) series I've ever seen...

Tremors? (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4832265)

What a fucking joke, a marginal movie made into a series? Spend the money on Farscape and dump this dog NOW!!!

Re:Tremors? (0, Flamebait)

Elbereth (58257) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832300)

Farscape sucked, anyways. Who needs another Star Trek ripoff? We've already had a thousand Star Trek shows, Babylon Five, Battlestar Galactica, and a shitload of others.

I'm sick and tired of muppets in space plus humans who have funny noses. I'm glad farscape got cancelled.

Watch -- the Slashdot groupthink will moderate me down into oblivion. But this must be said, because not everyone is sad to see another Trek clone go off the air!

Re:Tremors? (2, Funny)

Joe Tie. (567096) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832319)

Watch -- the Slashdot groupthink will moderate me down into oblivion.

Because you're the only person here able to form an independent decision right? If anyone disagrees with you it's not because different people value different aspects of story, or even God forbid that opinions other than yours might have been arrived at from a valid position. No, anyone disagreeing with you is obviously simply a mental incompetent. Must be a very comfortable view of the world.

Re:Farscape a Star Trek Rip-Off (1, Troll)

BeemerBoy (24030) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832370)

Spoken like a true ignoramous who thinks all science fiction sprung from Star Trek! The two are about as similar as milk and Sputnik! Please think before posting such uninformed drek or you'll put your ignorance up on display for all! Sheesh!!

Re:Tremors? (5, Insightful)

Photon Ghoul (14932) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832409)

Farscape is far from a Star Trek rip-off. It may lift some elements of the classic science-fiction shows, but it's usually done as an homage or even a slightly under-the-belt punch. Star Trek was made fun of several times on the show.

How do I know you've never actually watched Farscape?

1. Star Trek is in a nice clean universe where everything turns out fine at the end of the episode. Crewmen wearing certain shirts die or when that practice stopped death became an almost avoided subject.
Farscape is in a dirty, grimy universe where everything is out to get you. Major characters die. Enemies become friends... or at least necessary to trust them for a while.

2. Star Trek deals with holographic sentience, space-time anomolies/fluxuations, omnipresent alien beings, transwarp confibulators, blah blah blah
Farscape deals with manslaughter, death of loved ones, bounty hunters, torture, s&m, farts, piss, sexuality, emotional pain, intense love, uncomfortable situations, insanity, drug use, outright murder, seduction, loss of life on a massive scale, weapons of mass destruction, spirituality and many other more 'human' topics.

3. Star Trek uses a little bit of makeup on every single alien actor. Thus a universe of bipeds all roughly the same body type.
Farscape uses this method along with elaborate makeup/costumes and 'muppets' which are used to bring to life non-bipedal alien life forms or short stumpy annoying stab-you-in-the-back crew members whose farts cause a helium-like effect to those that inhale it.

4. Star Trek's crew is composed of mostly a bunch of stuffy, by-the-book Federation employees who are all good folk working towards the good of the universe.
Farscape's crew is composed mostly of a bunch of escaped prisoners along with a bumbling <injoke>erpling</injoke> astronaut, former antagonists, and rejects of the universe. It takes serious time and shared experiences for bonds to solidify enough that trust can be built. Everyone is looking out for number one.

5. Star Trek is straight science-fiction historically with a political or social message to bring to the masses while having a heavy focus on the technology.
Farscape is a dark comedy and a tragic love story that happens in a science-fiction setting.

I could go on and on about how Farscape has innovated in the realm of television science-fiction and how it is different than Star Trek, but I won't.

Re:Tremors? (3, Funny)

erpbridge (64037) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832496)

Everyone is looking out for number one

In Star Trek, everyone is looking out for Number One [] as well.

Slight difference, however, between the two series.

Re:Tremors? (2)

Happy Monkey (183927) | more than 11 years ago | (#4833081)

In Star Trek, everyone is looking out for Number One [] as well.

Of course everyone is looking for her! It's like "Where's Waldo" with her! Has she been in "Voyager" or "Enterprise"? If not, she made up for it by being in "Babylon 5" and "Earth: Final Conflict".

Re:Tremors? (1)

UnixRevolution (597440) | more than 11 years ago | (#4833139)

So what you mean is it's actually a lot like Firefly? :) i just had to. please don't kill my karma for it. I need my Karma!!!!!

Re:Tremors? (2)

TellarHK (159748) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832373)

Tremors:TS looks like it will be -fun-. There's been a real lacking in action-adventure stuff on TV, and Farscape just seemed to mix up action-adventure with drama a bit too ineffectively for my tastes. I couldn't watch three episodes in a row without thinking "Damn muppets" or "This is boring". I've got some hope for Tremors, but I'm prepared for it to really suck.

From looking at the site, the premise, and the character bios, they might have a pretty decent shot at making a show that's actually watchable. And it's got Burt Gummer. If you've seen Tremors 3, you'll know that even if the movies weren't high-quality cinema, that Burt can just be a fun damn character to watch in action.

I'll admit, it's hard to give a logical explanation of why I'm looking forward to the series, but I am. And hey, they're getting Christopher Lloyd for two episodes to play a mad scientist.

Re:Tremors? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4832658)

The first movie wasn't bad, the second sucked, the third was a total non-event. I only found out there was a third when I was browsing DVD's. And I understand that they are now going to make yet another Tremors movie, after they finish shooting the first season of the TV series.

Great! (4, Funny)

DAldredge (2353) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832269)

Now I can watch MUPPETS IN SPACE! again!

Don't think so... (3, Informative)

sparkler (115294) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832279)

You obviously haven't even read the very links you posted! Check out the Farscape link and you will find (sadly) that the Sci-Fi channel is just running the episodes already filmed to finish season 4! According to the FAQ, the show has been cancelled and will not be returning for another season. (They will however, undoubtedly be endlessly re-running the shows already made.)

Tremors (0)

Sh0t (607838) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832281)

I'd hate to see the tremors series. They've already beaten the original movie to death with the sequels, now this

Farscape is unwatchable (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4832284)

Major lighting problems (too dark to see anything), presense obligatory Klingon ripoff alien, angry shouting in place of subtle dialog.

Won't miss it when it vanishes again. The turtle/mushroom muppets are kind of cool though.

Farscape is like..... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4832294)

shoving a gerbil up your ass!

Armegedon is upon us (3, Insightful)

bryan1945 (301828) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832297)

The commercial for "Tremors: The Series" looks like a cross between the 1st Tremors movie and the "Dukes of Hazzard". The Dream thingy commercial is a bunch of women talking about how they have lesbian dreams. Stargate and Farscape seem ok, so far.

Overall, though, Sci-Fi is really turning into Shit-Fi. I didn't mind the horror movies as much as everyone else, since I like horror movies, this past Tuesday I stayed home 'cause I was sick, and all that was on Sci-Fi was 1 mystery and 2 thrillers, with only a minor sci-fi tie in.

Long have the days of petitioning Sci-Fi to re-up Bab5 or Crusade gone past.

So sad.

Re:Armegedon is upon us (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4832361)

That's what I thought while trying to watch "Taken" (or more appropriately: "Lifted". IMO it seemed like a disney production of The X-files. But I digress.)

The promos for that new show "Dream Team" seemed so un-sci-fi to me I was wondering if I wasn't watching Oxygen. And the station IDs even appeared to be an attempt to soften up their image...

I hope a real Science Fiction channel emerges to continue where Sci-Fi's promising 'Version 2.0" started to go. It's almost like they're running from all that now and trying to be more of a mainstream cable channel, like TNN with a bias towards the weird. I get the impression that there's a bunch of programming people at Sci-Fi that wish they were working for anyone BUT Sci-Fi...

Add to all that the Farscape cancellation and redemption is pretty far off...

Re:Armegedon is upon us (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4832401)

How can listening to women taking about lesbian dreams be shit? Where I'm from that usually costs $5.95 a minute. I expect this to be a hit show.

Dream Team (3, Funny)

thellamaman (631602) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832301)

If the preview for the truly awful-looking Dream Team is any indication, the show is going to go something like this:

Dreamer: OK, so I had this dream last night..
Host A: Repressed lesbian fantasies!
Dreamer: No, wait, there wasn't even a girl in the dream!
Host B: Repressed lesbian fantasies!
Dreamer: I'm not even a woman!
Host A: Repressed lesbian fantasies!

Re:Dream Team (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4832315)

I'm not a girl, but I have lesbian fantasies in my dreams.

Re:Dream Team (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4832339)

I'm not a girl, but I have lesbian fantasies in my dreams.

Yeah but EVERY guy has lesbian fantasies. They definitely aren't repressed.

Re:Dream Team (4, Interesting)

Chanc_Gorkon (94133) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832349)

Really. I mean Annabelle was kind of funny on Dinner and Movie, but be honest, we did not really tune into see the dinner being cooked. We tuned in to SEE THE MOVIE!! Dinner and a Movie has just turned into an extra ad now with the hosts holding up a bottle of Dasani Nutri-Water or the "product" of the week. It's not even so much about the dish. Although they did come up with some fun dish names like Hail to the Chef State of the Onion Frittata for the movie The American President, or Obi-Wan Cannelloni for Star Wars. Now it seems like they either advertise an ingredient or a beverage in addition to the commercials they show also. Also the Man Made Movie thing sucks too. Granted the movies are ok, but I would rather see a Geek Made Movie where the show would show you how to build a geek friendly, yet wife friendly house with cat 5 in every room bewteen breaks of movies like Hackers and The Matrix.

Re:Dream Team (1)

VGR (467274) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832399)

This is pretty much dead on. I consider dream interpretation to be a valid part of psychological science, but how is this science fiction?

This is just an attempt to compete with such late-night winners as "Blind Date," "Fifth Wheel," and probably "Wild On." Looks like it'll be 98% sex talk. What does this have to do with science-fiction? If ratings are more important than, y'know, actually airing science fiction, then why not just replace all the programming with Jerry Springer?

Every time I see the commercial for "Dream Team" or "Tremors: The Series," I can only think: They expect this to get better ratings than Farscape?

Re:Dream Team (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4832792)

You're only looking at half the picture.

It's not just ratings, but the cost to get those ratings. A show that costs $50,000 an episode to make that brings in a 1.0 is more valuable than a show that bring in a 2.0 that costs $250,000 an episode to make. (Most of the time. Sometimes networks are willing to pay more for a series for the "prestige" it brings to their network, and their overall standing in the network world. Some people were hoping Farscape would be viewed that way.)

Re:Dream Team (2)

slickwillie (34689) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832919)

Wasn't Annabelle on that hosted movie show where they cooked a meal each time? It was on TNT or UPN or something.

You linked to Farscape Page - BUT DID NOT READ IT! (5, Informative)

jackb_guppy (204733) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832308)

A small clip from the SCIFI-FAQ: []

Additionally, in past seasons, Farscape had built upon its lead-in program (i.e., had more viewers than the program preceding it - a standard industry indicator of a show's success). For example, during the summer of 2001, Farscape increased 44% in ratings and 51% in households over its lead-in, The Invisible Man. However, this past summer, Farscape lost 29% of its lead-in program in terms of ratings, and 27% in households.

Based on this FarScape lost market share when SciFi cancelled I-Man. Two great campy shows work better than one.

I guess I can not understand network programming.

PS: When you go to the FarScape page... A pop-up about the cancelation appears. My guess it is still cancelled.

Re:You linked to Farscape Page - BUT DID NOT READ (4, Insightful)

puto (533470) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832344)

I agree with you. I had been living in South America for the past few years and when I got home I was looking for some Sci_Fi goodness after two years of 10 channel cable and dial up acess. So i decide to start up on farscape and caught some episodes about the invisible man and fell in love with the show.

IT was campy sort of a mix between:

1.Max Headroom(Edison had the brit fiora chick as a controller always a little sexual tension, invisible man has brit chick doctor.

2. The Hulk - Ivisible man gets to much quicksilver in the system and starts bugging out.

Edge of Night(whatever that vampire show is with Skanky and the vampire is a cop) Just like the Invisible Man he was an asshole in the past and is atoning for his sins, using his power for good, but they both lapse into old ways sometimes.

And you know, I never really made it to Farscape, cause I liked the invisible man so much, and I didnt realize I was watching an old show.


Re:You linked to Farscape Page - BUT DID NOT READ (1)

PugMajere (32183) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832421)

You're thinking of Forever Knight.

That was one of the best vampire shows I've ever watched. Well, then again, there haven't exactly been a lot of even decent vampire shows, now that I think about it.

(Buffy + Angel and Forever Knight are all I can think of, honestly.)

Re:You linked to Farscape Page - BUT DID NOT READ (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4832347)

I guess I can not understand network programming.

Clearly, neither does SciFi.

Re:You linked to Farscape Page - BUT DID NOT READ (2)

technomancerX (86975) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832482)

Hmmm... seems to me when they canceled invisible man they started time slot shuffling and running horribly out of order reruns... Gee, why would a sometimes it's on sometimes it's not and if it is on it's a rerun you've seen five times airing approach lower ratings?

Re:You linked to Farscape Page - BUT DID NOT READ (3, Insightful)

simm_s (11519) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832958)

That is somewhat of a contradiction. Why did FarScape's ratings go down after the cancellation of I-Man, but not recover while being paired with the hit series SG1? I believe the answer is that FarScape's early success had nothing to do with the fact it was paired with I-Man. Maybe, FarScape's fourth season really is not as good as the previous three seasons.

I actually stopped watching after the third season. IMHO Farscape really does not deserve to be cancelled after one bad season. They should have just lowered the production costs of the series and released a final fifth season.

Farscape (5, Informative)

edo-01 (241933) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832335)

Well, we wrap work on the VFX for episode 422 this week, and once that's done we're archiving everything to DLT and going our seperate ways... as far as I know it's still over.

I was at Animal Logic last week and asked our producer if she'd heard anything different from Andrew (one of the exec producers) - nada. It's all winding down - on Thursday we hit a local pub for the VFX wrap party then that's it :-(

Anyway, at this point I'm rooting for Firefly ;-)

Re:Farscape (3, Interesting)

Photon Ghoul (14932) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832466)

Firefly started off, in my opinion, extremely boring. I continued watching it because there isn't much else on television that is science-fiction and I don't like Trek at all.

The last two or three episodes have become interesting. I'll miss the dark feel of Farscape and will never get over the western feel of Firefly... but if it actually makes it for a few seasons this may prove to be a very interesting ride.

Re:Farscape (4, Funny)

Twirlip of the Mists (615030) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832592)

The last two or three episodes have become interesting.

Interesting? Is that the best you can do? Did you even watch "War Stories?"

Zoe: Hold it, Jayne. This is something the captain's gotta do for himself.

Mal: (fighting, muffled) No, it's not!

Zoe: Oh. (everybody opens fire)

Re:Farscape (4, Interesting)

Photon Ghoul (14932) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832638)

Yes and it is probably the episode that got me to think that "okay this series will keep getting better". To me "interesting" is a very good compliment for television programming because I can't stand and do not watch it. Farscape was the only thing I watched regularly. I generally don't watch TV (I only wanted cable for Farscape) because not much of it is appealing enough for me to sit and stare at a box fed programming by people that only think of me as another set of eyeballs for their advertisers.

I like the character development of Firefly, as it's progressing *very* nicely. I like the humor and there is enough action to balance things out. There are also no punches pulled when it comes to the dirty and bloody things that they go through. And for the drooling-needs-sex-badly-"boobies!" set there was a great woman-woman kissing scene last night. Although you will be dissapointed because it was done in good taste (network TV and all that).

The western theme is a serious negative for me, though. So much, that when I hear the theme song I wonder if it's really a show I want to watch.

Re:Farscape (3, Interesting)

Twirlip of the Mists (615030) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832738)

And for the drooling-needs-sex-badly-"boobies!" set there was a great woman-woman kissing scene last night.

"Our Mrs. Reynolds" actually had a much hotter girl-girl scene, although nothing happened. It was all steamy eye-contact and double entendres and whatnot. Hot as fire, though.

The western theme is a serious negative for me, though.

Matter of taste, I suppose. Personally I love it. Such a refreshing change from the aseptic Star Treks and the wormholes-and-wacky-aliens Farscape.

I guess it all comes down to bullets for me. Although I didn't plan it this way, I've found that I will watch any sci-fi show where they use bullets instead of laser guns or whatever. "Firefly" and "Stargate SG-1" are my two big ones these days.

I particularly liked Zoe's little side-comment to Simon last night, as she handed him a revolver. "Six shots, the drop it. Just move on."

Re:Farscape (2)

Cyno01 (573917) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832805)

I love that they still use guns, but i gotta wonder if our standard gunpowder recipe has changed in 500 years. Last night all the gunfire sounded a lot different from what you hear on cop shows, action movies etc. Not that any of those sound like real gunfire, but still.

Re:Farscape (2)

Twirlip of the Mists (615030) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832870)

Yeah, I've been trying to rationalize that all day. I mean, we can start with the fact, like you said, that TV gunfire doesn't sound at all like real gunfire. Pistols don't go "blam!" Pistols go "pop!" Pistols on "Firefly" almost go "ping!"

If I figure out an explanation for that one that makes sense in the context of the show, I'll let you know. But until then, I'm putting it in the same category as the ubiquitous artificial gravity: it just is, and the fact that it is isn't relevant to the story, so don't worry about it.

Re:Farscape (2)

stirfry714 (410701) | more than 11 years ago | (#4833196)

My guess is that most of the guns are probably minature rail guns - using magnetic acceleration to propel the bullets.

Actually makes sense in a way. Assuming that we don't end up with phasers or some other energy-based weapon:

We'll inevitably continue the current bullet-kevlar battle... as they make better stronger kevlar, people will keep developing bullets to pierce it

Next assumption: At some point, the kevlar gets good enough that nothing you can do to the bullet lets you pierce it. Might break a few ribs, but no penetration.

So what's the next step? Add more energy to the bullet. Can't really increase the mass, so increase the speed... assuming no massive improvements in gunpowder efficiency are available, the next logical step is to dump gunpowder, and go with something next-gen, like magnetic acceleration.

Granted, this could all just be my pipe-dream, but it makes sense.

(And Whedon, if you see this, feel free to name the inventor of the magnetic guns after me in an aside from one of the characters... I'd prefer Kaylee. Thanks.)

Re:Farscape (4, Insightful)

edo-01 (241933) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832662)

Interesting? Is that the best you can do? Did you even watch "War Stories?" Zoe: Hold it, Jayne. This is something the captain's gotta do for himself. Mal: (fighting, muffled) No, it's not! Zoe: Oh. (everybody opens fire)

I *love* this show - the exact moment I fell in love was at the end of the first episode, when Mal kicked the bad-guy into the engines - my eyes bugged out and I literally nearly spat coke over the screen.

Firefly has excellent production values (look at 'Ariel' - that episode looks like a feature film for chrissakes), the VFX are exquisite, and I say that with all due jealousy and admiration:-)

I'm constantly delighted and surprised by every episode and have yet to see one I haven't enjoyed (and I *hate* westerns)

Re:Farscape (2)

Twirlip of the Mists (615030) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832763)

the exact moment I fell in love was at the end of the first episode, when Mal kicked the bad-guy into the engines

Right there with you. And amazingly, that hasn't been the high point of the show so far. Every week the bar gets bumped just a little bit higher. I'm still laughing about, "I'll learn as I go. (cut) So now I'm learning about carrying." Heh.

the VFX are exquisite

Man, yeah. I don't know anything about how they do things over there, but the 3D tracking can't be beat. Handheld background plates with CGI effects composited in, and the effects are positive bolted down. Really outstanding stuff.

Where the show really shines, though, is in the sets. They built the whole set for the Serenity, spent a fortune on it. It's like being there. Just amazing.

I'm constantly delighted and surprised by every episode and have yet to see one I haven't enjoyed

Yeah, the whole not-doing-too-well-in-the-ratings thing is kind of a letdown. Fox has been as supportive as anybody could ask so far, but it's tough going into the holidays not knowing what's going to happen. After he wrapped "War Stories," Joss said something like, "If we never make another one, I'm satisfied." Which is saying a whole heck of a lot, coming from him.

Re:Farscape (2)

ericdano (113424) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832855)

Yeah, I too am addicted to the show. I hope Fox keeps it going, and if not maybe some other network will pick it up.

Firefly on SciFi (2)

cat_jesus (525334) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832916)

SciFi will probably pick it up, fool with the timeslot and cancel it because it lost ratings when compared to the original timeslot. They're quickly becoming as pathetic as the USA network.

Re:Farscape (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4832697)

War Stories? With Oliver North on FOX News Channel? I love that show. It beats Buffy and all that sci-fi fake-shit to death.

Re:Farscape (1)

Kythorn (52358) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832611)

Ah, but it's very likely that unless the ratings for the next two episodes completely rock that it'll never come out of hiatus.

Ugh (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4832342)

So we lose Farscape and get Tremors: The Series. I think I am going to go clean my brain with some Hydra-Shok.

Animated Farscape (2, Interesting)

lunadude (449261) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832363)

Anyone know of progress on the rumored animated version? Wasn't ADV involved somhow?

Re:Animated Farscape (2)

edo-01 (241933) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832681)

Anyone know of progress on the rumored animated version? Wasn't ADV involved somhow?

I'll ask around, but I haven't heard anything about it yet...

Re:Animated Farscape (2)

Cyno01 (573917) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832820)

There is (or was, not sure if its canned yet) a Stargate animated series. Satuday morning kiddy stuff, but still an ok addition to the franchise.

Scifi redeemed itself... (2, Insightful)

LtRazak00 (631531) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832365)

Has anyone been watching Taken by Steven Spielberg? that's good. Think Scifi has redeemed itself...i's a 20 hour miniseries for cryin out loud...=D Taken of Scifi []

Re:Scifi redeemed itself... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4832473)

Taken...well I have watched and an not too impressed. Needs more gratuitous sex and sex. More 1950 tits and ass. 1960's beach bubbies giving head in old Caddy's. Annette FunnyJello sucking off a horse or two. Move into the 1970's and aliens walk among us with impunity, we were too stoned to notice they were odd looking, the acid made everyone look like that! String bikini's and the beginnings of silicone breasts! Thorazine to cut the acid burn. 1980's yuppy geeks telling their shrinks about having fantasies about alien blowjobs. When will it all end?

Re:Scifi redeemed itself... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4832849)

I like Taken, but I'm not sure it's really sci-fi. - It's set in the past up to the present
- It targets people who want to believe in Alien encounters
- Aliens are mostly secondary, it's really about the human families

Now look at the sci-fi commercial, what show are they airing? That dumb ass dream talkshow, that is NOT sci-fi. Tremors which is NOT sci-fi (Dukes of Hazzard as one poster said). Roswell, which doesn't look sci-fi to me, mostly Dawsons Creek with Aliens (vomit, scream, tear eyeballs out). Farscape which is most definitely sci-fi and Stargate, which is.

They're cancelling farscape, Stargate has been on the chopping block before. It would appear that teh Sci-fi channel is doing less Sci-Fi and more magical mysterious world: Tarot cards, Alien invasions, Dream reading, etc.


Sci-Fi Redeem itself? (0, Redundant)

Rahizial (631593) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832431)

Not until it leaves the nudity in movies it shows.

Farscape 2003 news in SCIFI.COM (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4832462)

Sorry gang. Check out:

"THE FINAL 11 EPISODES of Farscape will begin airing in January of 2003, when SEASON FOUR concludes!"

Farscape still has a shot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4832525)

There is still a good chance it will return, tho my gut tells me not on SciFi but perhaps UPN who are having a problem with their own ratings.
There are radio ads starting to play in Jan paid for by the fans.
There is a USA ad going out in the national edition either Thursday or on the Friday 4x12 "Kansas" airs, paid for by the fans.

What David Kemper says (he produces Farscape) we need is a 2.0 or better rating which is unusual on the SciFi channel. He also said that compared with the last ratings, we are pretty much 6 Neilson households from that rating. 6 so you have a Neilson box or diary, WATCH. Give it a shot. It's a bit different but it's one of the best original series I've ever seen once you give it a few episodes. Hell go rent a Farscape DVD, Blockbuster has them in stock.

Rarely if ever have a given a crap about a TV like Farscape, but for a simple TV show to evoke so much emotion in people who are willing to pay to try to keep it going...

support your scifi (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4832543)

guys in all reality , if we claim to exist in one, you want to make sure that your show your channel is doing the right thing is Pay Attention. Listen and support the team rather than cry and run...

Sci Fi now following the Comedy Central model (4, Interesting)

frenchgates (531731) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832557)

...imagine Comedy Central without the Daily Show: all Mannequin 2, all the time. A pageant of mediocrity and under-achievement.

They show cheap, mostly bad sequel films out of some library of second rate productions I assume they have some kind of generic access Turner Classic Movies showing the films they already own.

Now they have canned the origial Star Trek (the only reason I watched Sci Fi) even though they have exclusive broadcast rights for the next several years.

Basically they suck.

For Christ's sake... (1, Flamebait)

kir (583) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832595)

All this pissing and moaning over a damned television show. STFU already. It's cancelled. Move on.

Re:For Christ's sake... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4832759)

Yeah, seriously. Farscape was a shitty show in the first place, I don't see why people are so upset that they cancelled it. God, get a life.

Yes! PAssivity! (3, Funny)

MacAndrew (463832) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832901)

Yes, everyone should be passive about changing the things they care about. Let it go. We're helpless. Drifting down the stream called life.

Hmm, that would eliminate half the posts on /. -- a real time-saver.

Really, the model here is the rescue of Star Trek for one more season, 30+ years ago. If no one says anything SciFi will only be sure that their judgment as to its declining popularity was correct (see the FAQ). I think the fan reaction is admirable in an age where people people complain about their TV shows, and politicians, and so on, without ever doing anything about it.

Now, if you don't like the dissensiom, "Move on." -- there are other stories to read.

Re:Yes! PAssivity! (1, Flamebait)

JimPooley (150814) | more than 11 years ago | (#4833033)

Really, the model here is the rescue of Star Trek for one more season, 30+ years ago.

That brought us such wonderful gems as "Spock's Brain", the one with the space hippies, and the one where Kirk swaps bodies with some woman so she can run the starship...

Yes. That third season of Star Trek was so worthwhile.

PS. Farscape is shit. Flush it away

Re:For Christ's sake... (2)

KillerBob (217953) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832902)

Have you ever watched Farscape? One of the best TV shows ever produced, IM-not so-HO.

I'll admit that I didn't really like Farscape when it started out. A few months later, all I was hearing about at work was Farscape-this, Farscape-that, interspersed with the occasional bit of Everquest trivia. I decided to give the show another chance, and you know what? I liked it. I liked it a lot. It's involving, and they have fun with the story lines. When was the last time the Enterprise stopped at a pleasure planet and the crew dumped T'Pol and Captain what's-his-name off, insisting they don't come back for 10 days?

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's bad. A lot of people do like it, and think it's worth saving.

Incidentally, I'm glad that SG-1 is getting a reprieve, too. Others have said it, but it's not the best sci-fantasy, but it's at least it's consistently not-bad.

Cancellations, Etc. (2, Insightful)

Scholasticus (567646) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832619)

I'm sorry to see Farscape go, though I am glad that Stargate SG1 is getting a 7th season. Stargate may not be groundbreaking or visionary, but it's not bad compared to much television science fiction. Consider this comparison: in the most recent episode of 'Enterprise,' the ship encountered a black hole which for some unexplained reason turned everybody on the ship into an obsessive-compulsive (maybe the black hole was emitting 'a*s*ole rays'). In the Stargate episode in which the SGC encountered a black hole, what did they experience? Time dilation, gravity waves, tidal forces, increased gravity - and they still made a pretty good story out of it.

Firefly on hiatus according to EW (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4832689)

Entertainment Weekly has said that this show is rated 99, below even such gems as Cedric the Entertainer.

This is going on hiatus, a prelude to cancellation.

Farscape still has 13 episodes left (3, Informative)

Cyberllama (113628) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832743)

It hasn't been cancelled in the sense that they won't show it anymore, just that they won't buy any new episodes. The 13 episodes slated to start airing in January are the last 13, they were the ones being finished up when the word came down that sci-fi wasn't ordering anymore.

the SciFi Channel can never be redeemed. (3, Insightful)

AugstWest (79042) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832779)

The bastards canceled MST3K.

Re:the SciFi Channel can never be redeemed. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4832992)

The bastards show "Crossing Over". Might as well have dead air.

chrisd Changed The Subject (3, Interesting)

Cyno01 (573917) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832780)

To everyone who's bitching that farscape is still cancled, what i meant by it is that it will still be on this season, with new episodes next month. If people are a little confused, my original title for this article was

2002-12-07 02:21:20 Sci-Fi Channel's Not Dead Yet (articles,tv) (accepted)

IMO they should keep Farscape, its one of the best Sci-Fi shows thats been on this millenium, but if they can't afford it, i guess cancling it is better then the Sci-Fi channel going bankrupt and being bought by FOX or something.

Re:chrisd Changed The Subject (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4833056)

SciFi is owned by Vivendi which is IHMO much more evil than Fox could ever be.

Just another indication (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4832799)

That the editors and people who run slashdot are totally retarded. Ay DOY!!!

hehehe (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4832889)

Farscape popup page: []

Unfortunately, we will have to return the check for $60 that was sent to help pay for a new season.

I spent some time working at the post house that did Farscape down here. Let me tell you US$60 won't even get you a pixel.

as many others said... (0, Redundant)

w4rl5ck (531459) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832911)

its cancelled, its down, we live in fear and Crichton may never reach home again. They just paused the remaining 11 episodes til January. :(.............

Farscape only 11 episodes left (2, Informative)

CryoStasis (171521) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832944)

They are airing commercials for Farscape but as far as I know the show is still canceled. The episodes that they will be airing in Jan 2003 will be the last 11 episodes of the 4th season if I recall correctly.


Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4832984)


No redemption until MST3K is brought back, with the same people, and a huge budget.

Mystery Science Theater 3000 FOREVER!

It's cancelled...... (0)

Phantom_24 (416231) | more than 11 years ago | (#4832996)

I recieved an e-mail form the OFFICIAL Farscape website the other day stating so. BUT, they also mention that a movie is quite possibly in the works.... as well as an ANIMATED series (granted that doesn't bring total resolution....but it's better than nothing). I for one would love to see Farscape hit the bigscreen, especially one with a bigger budget that the tv show !!

The poster is a retard (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4832999)

They're just airing the second half of season 4 that they already finished producing. After that Farscape is over.

A few things to satiate you..... (0)

Phantom_24 (416231) | more than 11 years ago | (#4833023)

The official site....

And the game...which is out finally.

From what dept? (3, Funny)

mraymer (516227) | more than 11 years ago | (#4833037)

Hey, editors, let me clear something up...

First off, his name is John Edward. There is no "S" in Edward. Lastly, you didn't finish it... you should have said he is a big douche. Yet, that would still be incorrect. As we all know from South Park, John Edward is the biggest douche in the universe. Also, if he really believes that dead people talk to him, then he's a stupid douche.

chrisd... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4833061)

tard, it's just the rest of the remaining season. fucktard extraordinaire.

Children of Dune (3, Interesting)

Sayjack (181286) | more than 11 years ago | (#4833063)

Am I the only one who is more excited about the prospect of another Dune movie? The SCIFI version of Dune was so much better than the Hollywood rendition. So much so that it was ridiculous.

They're hitting the dryer portion of the series but it puts them a movie (2 books) closer to what I thought was the best parts of the Dune series; the latter post-God-Emperor-Leto books.

I just hope they cast the roles of young Leto and Ghola Duncan Idaho appropriately. Dune ruined me for other science fiction in that most stuff I have read since inhaling the series seems superficial in comparison. Dune's deep plotlines which take many books to unravel.

I'd also like to point out that the prequel novels undertaken by Frank's son Brian and sci-fi novelist Kevin J. Anderson really augmented my appreciation for how well thought out the Dune series really was. Much to my surprise, the Dune legacy is well represented by the collaboration of these two authors.

On a side note, I don't think the studios appreciate the fact that good science fiction movies/series might not bring in the immediate blockbuster bucks at the box office, but their shelf life is much greater than the latest Schwartzeneger film for example. Sci fi buffs will watch their favorite movies every time they come on, buy the DVD and other related items. The returns don't necessarily show up immediately, but the revenue is there. It's a sign of the stock market mentality ** MAKE MONEY NOW ** with little long term strategy...

Stargate... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4833114)

Don't go away! We'll be returning soon!

Stargate is brought to you by Gates Foundation and Microsoft Windows... Opening gates to a new universe!

And StarOffice, your way out of the monopolistic forces of evil!


PS: Standard legalese applies, including but not limited to the part which say brands belong to their owners (duh!) and this is fake.

Redeemed? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4833149)

A casting sheet [] for the new Battlestar Galactica production by Scifi Channel has been posted on the net and confirmed by producer Ron D. Moore himself to be accurate. Apparently the new mini series is going to reverse basically everything about the original. Naturally the fans are completely rejecting this new production and the only people that have anything positive to say about it are ones that never liked the original in the first place.
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