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Microsoft to Buy Rational and/or Borland?

chrisd posted more than 11 years ago | from the still-upset-over-turbo-prologs-market-dominance dept.

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oblivious writes "I got this in e-mail this evening: According to a Reuters report that crossed the wires late today, the speculation is that Microsoft will make bids to buy both Rational and Borland. Shares of both Rational and Borland are up on the news, and so far both IBM and Microsoft have no comment on this report." We recently ran a story about IBMs planned purchase of Rational. Chris didn't make clear in here - it's not that Microsoft might buy both, but that Borland might be a likely target, if a bid to buy Rational out from under IBM fails, which it is likely too. Rational and IBM have signed the substantive portion of the agreement already, so any sort of counter bid would have some fun legal consequences for all involved.

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522 comments

first fist (0, Offtopic)

jrs 1 (536357) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870736)

first fist is when you fist someone first in quake 3 arena

Re:first fist (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4870764)

fUCk you

Re:first fist (-1, Troll)

Trolling4Dollars (627073) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870943)

Humiliation!!! +1 Funny

C++ Builder (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4870760)

Please don't take away my C++ Builder... :(

Re:C++ Builder (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4870795)

The benifits of mergers and buyouts is to remove overlap, (or competition in MS's case).
C++ builder will die, likely so will Kylix.
I imagine they'll keep delphi since it only sort of competes with Visual Basic.

HOLY HELL! (3, Insightful)

gralem (45862) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870762)

Nothing would be worse than M$ buying borland. It would be the end of JBuilder--a fantastic java IDE. Not to mention delphi and KYLIX! This would be B*A*D.

---gralem

Re:HOLY HELL! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4870855)

Eclipse [eclipse.org] is better anyway.

Well ok, there's no GUI builder for it yet, but eclipse is very active in development, and the 2.0 branch is excellent.

Re:HOLY HELL! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4870920)

Eclipse is better anyway.

Is it finished? No? Well, then, it's not better. Pigfucker.

Re:HOLY HELL! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4871002)

umm.. 2.0 has been stable for several months.
IBM's Webshpere Application Developer 5.0 is based on it.
It could have been called "finished" at 1.0 with its target feature set in place.
2.0 added new features and was versioned 2.0 when that list of features was completed and it was stable.

Yes it is finished, Yes it is still in development, and Yes new features are being added.

Pigfucker

What's your point? Yes, I very much enjoy fucking your mother. What the hell does that have to do with the eclipse project?

Re:HOLY HELL! (-1, Redundant)

gss (86275) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870859)

I'd be more worried that they would own Togethersoft (since Borland has just bought them) which would be a big hole eft in terms of Java UML tools. I'm not too worried about JBuilder since it has lost it's charm since Idea and Eclipse have surfaced.

Re:HOLY HELL! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4870862)

And bang goes my coveted MCSE!! Guess I'll soon have these new exams to take:
MCLE : Microsoft Certified Linux Engineer (yeah, now that META group says so)
MCRE : Microsoft Certified Rational Engineer - to think that Pure, and Atria were taken over by Rational!!
MCBE : Microsft Certified Borland Engineer! Delphi.NET and Kylix.NET??

Damn@!

That's why we need Lazarus!!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4870910)

Lazarus [freepascal.org]

- The Free Software Delphi!

Re:HOLY HELL! : Eclipse! (3, Interesting)

hermescom (624888) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870957)

I wouldn't be too worried about loosing JBuilder. After all, Eclipse [eclipse.org] is better, faster, and open-sourcier. Not to mention it doesn't use godawful Swing(r)(tm)(c)(pi).

I am a Java programmer myself (laugh it up), but Swing just plain annoys me.

Dirtier than thou attitude??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4870995)

IBM buying Rational makes since their Websphere is truly a multi-platform entity. By takingover Rational, MS would effectively remove the last vestiges of true multi-platform development - in their own unique dirty manner.

Re:HOLY HELL! (2, Interesting)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 11 years ago | (#4871001)

Why would it mean the end?

Once they bought up Borland they're no longer competing, what would they have to gain by throwing away all that mindshare - thats what they're buying. Thats the only value Borland has to offer.

Re:HOLY HELL! (2, Interesting)

SerpentMage (13390) | more than 11 years ago | (#4871005)

This would be great....

Because now finally people may get off their butt and think about buying other tools. People have become too complacent about the tools they buy. Not to say that JBuilder is bad. But Eclipse, SlickEdit are really good tools that do things in different ways.

I am looking forward to this because it will open the playing field...

anon frist p0rnst (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4870766)

TWO TOWERS DEC. 18!!!!

Re:anon frist p0rnst (-1)

The Trolling Troller (579075) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870973)

I've got your two towers...right here [bedroomsports.com] .

Hate to say it but.. (0, Flamebait)

EggplantMan (549708) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870767)

At least if MS purchases them they can once again become profitable (and successful) companies.

Re:Hate to say it but.. (4, Insightful)

Lxy (80823) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870801)

successful? How? Borland C++ Builder, Delphi, and Kylix GONE. I don't call that successful. I call that anti-competitive.

Re:Hate to say it but.. (2)

danheskett (178529) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870901)

successful? How? Borland C++ Builder, Delphi, and Kylix GONE. I don't call that successful. I call that anti-competitive.
How do you know that?

How do you know what MS has planned maybe for these products?

Re:Hate to say it but.. (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4870818)

I seriously doubt that MS is not going to continue Borland's line of compilers.

Borland offers a free (as in $0) C++ compiler for download. Anyone who is interested in getting it should download it now, since if MS buys Borland, I doubt it will be available much longer.

Of course, this is not a total tragedy, since thanks to GNU, the gcc team, and DJ Delorie, there will always be DJGPP, which is free in a broader sense.

Re:Hate to say it but.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4870861)

Borland is a profitable company.. thanks

Re:Hate to say it but.. (2, Insightful)

harks (534599) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870893)

Wasn't there just a slashdot article saying that Microsoft lost money in every department except for Windows and Office? http://www.self-aggrandizement.com/archives/monopo ly_much.html this mentions it too so I dont think that MS buying them will make them profitable.

Re:Hate to say it but.. that's pure drivel... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4870911)

Actually Rational took over Pure and Atria. And their flagship products ClearCase and RationalRose are two outstanding products in software engineering - not to mention MultiSite and various other Quality Process tools.

Rational, Pure and Atria have been successful companies all along, actually. And they have a good reputation with their mvfs that really works like a champ on about 10 different platforms, pooor Windows included.

Re:Hate to say it but.. (5, Interesting)

mcguirez (524534) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870947)

Well Borland is profitable:

roughly 5m/quarter for the past 4...

That's 8% net profit margin - now this isn't
Microsoft level profits but it's probably
ethically obtained!

Profitable? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4870975)

What, like Corel, right?

Acquisition by Microsoft will mean the END of their competing suites--BC++, Jbuilder, Delphi and Kylix. It won't make Borland profitable, but it will contribute to the profit of Microsoft.

Anyone else still confuse rational with... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4870772)


Tenberry Software [tenberry.com]

Tenberry? The DOS4GW guys?

Strange (4, Interesting)

TwP (149780) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870773)

My friend who works for Raional here in Boulder was told by the company on Friday (Dec 6) that they were being bought by IBM. How can Rational sell itself to both IBM and Micro$oft?

Re:Strange (1)

mericet (550554) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870819)

They probably tried to get competing bids from both, it happens when a company isn't desparate to be sold.

Re:Strange (2)

ctrimble (525642) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870826)

Here's the story on the IBM purchase at e-week. Looks like it's fait accompli.

IBM Acquires Rational [eweek.com]

Re:Strange (2, Interesting)

CommieOverlord (234015) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870839)

IBM hasn't actually bought Rational yet, all sorts of things could cancel the deal. Ie, a drastic fall in IBM stock price, or the government intervening and saying the merger would be bad competetion. Another thing is that if Microsoft puts in a higher bid, then the board of directors at Rational will switch to the higher bid.

Re:Strange (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4870860)

Simply - Microsoft offers more money.

Can you say bidding war?

Re:Strange (1)

Sunkist (468741) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870958)


How can Rational sell itself to both IBM and Micro$oft?

Because when a company goes on the auction block, it is goes to the highest bidder.

However, it doesn't make sense for MS to buy Rational, unless they only plan to stamp out competing product lines.

Re:Strange (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4870984)

Do not underestimate the power of the Dark Side.

Re:Strange (0, Offtopic)

jedijacket (614666) | more than 11 years ago | (#4871003)

They make a copy. :) Sorry folks...

Monopoly? (2, Insightful)

Dedtired (93552) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870777)

There is no way this ends up good, if MS makes the sale. But here's a question. At what point does MS own too much of the computing world? With MS buying Borland and Rational, does this signify the end developments for other OS's? If not this, then how much more does MS need to buy before they do own practically everything.

Re:Monopoly? (1)

coopaq (601975) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870881)

With MS buying Borland and Rational, does this signify the end developments for other OS's?

The article states that MS would only be looking at
a Borland acquisition to counter IBM's purchase
of Rational Software.

-J

Not according to Slashdot (1)

ergo98 (9391) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870949)

Slashdot is very confusing to me (not necessarily your post, but the conflicting most prevalent message). On the one hand Microsoft is doomed as the purportedly superior Linux/Apache/MySQL/Postgresql stomps its way into the hearts and mind of shops everywhere, but on the other hand Microsoft is an evil monopoly that must be stopped. These points are absolutely contradictory: If Microsoft is under an imminent threat by open source/freeware then they are not a monopoly.

Pick your prophecy people: If you claim in one post that Microsoft is doomed, then you must forever disagree with any claims that they are a monopoly.

know your data first lamer! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4870964)

Programming language products were not part of the anti-trust legal action against MS.

Windows, the OS, was.

It really fits (-1, Flamebait)

gazbo (517111) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870780)

I don't know if anyone else remembers Borland's EULA a few months ago granting them literally a pound of flesh from anyone who installed Turbo Pascal Builder.

I guess they've proven to MS that they are "their kinda people" with aggressive unethical tactics like that. And Rational are just cunts.

Re:It really fits (1)

mark_lybarger (199098) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870988)

a few months ago granting them literally a pound of flesh from anyone who installed Turbo Pascal Builder.

that's a pretty cheap price for anyone using Turbo Pascal Builder. i would expect you to sign away your soul as the C# development tools (Visual Studio .NET) require. ;)

shit (0, Troll)

kin_korn_karn (466864) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870781)

well, there goes the only two companies left that support non-MS technologies in the corporate world. (to a multi-national open source is a joke, don't go there).

If you want to keep your high-paying tech job, get a jar of vaseline, because microsoft is preparing to fuck you long and hard deep into the night. Unless you're female, in which case you might not need the vaseline.

Re:shit (1)

Leers (159585) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870852)

Let the oil companies buy microsoft software. Thats poetic justice. ( untill the blue screne of death causes the next oil spill )

Re:shit (1)

Asic Eng (193332) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870944)

(to a multi-national open source is a joke, don't go there).

I think your assessment just doesn't reflect reality anymore - open source is way past that stage. These days when I ask vendors for Chip-design tools, I get "of course we support Linux". In many other fields it's the same.

I am working for a multi-national, and we are using open-source.

Tell me it ain't true! (2)

J.Stattlemeyer (633344) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870787)

This would bring about things that I don't even want to imagine.

Do not rape my Borland! I can't live without their tools. Just thinking about how microsoft would bastardize their wonderful software makes me ill!

What about Kylix ? (1)

Mark Round (211258) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870788)

Considering that Borland's Kylix is a strong solution for cross-platform develoment on both Windows and Linux (not just for Delphi either - from what I hear, the latest versions include Borland's C/C++ compiler) this could be a real blow. I mean, what's the likelyhood of Microsoft carrying on development of Kylix ?

Then again, there was that story recently about Microsoft getting into Linux software development...

Re:What about Kylix ? (3, Funny)

kin_korn_karn (466864) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870808)

Maybe MS wants to replace VB with something less shitty.

Re:What about Kylix ? (2, Funny)

shut_up_man (450725) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870954)

Unfortunately, I think MS wants to replace something less shitty than VB with... VB.

Schweet! (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4870792)

Excellent! Where can I pre order Visual Pascal?

IN SOVIET MOSCOW (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4870793)

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sure? (2)

nick-less (307628) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870798)

Microsoft will make bids to buy both Rational and Borland

If MS buys Borland they would become a Java Addict and Linux Software Producer (Kylix, JBuilder). I doubt this would happen so soon ;-)

Re:sure? (2)

larien (5608) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870840)

Another view: if MS buys Borland, how long do you think those products would last?

My bet... (1)

killmenow (184444) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870953)

0.47 seconds

Re:sure? (1)

broody (171983) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870971)

Just like hotmail...

Remove the competition... (5, Interesting)

larien (5608) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870802)

This would basically be MS buying two competitors. Rational Clearcase competes with Visual Sourcesafe and Borland's development products obviously compete with Visual Studio (as well as doing a fair bit with Java, which MS probably don't like).

If this is true, they've obviously decided to really flip the bird to the courts...

Re:Remove the competition... (4, Interesting)

Paul Komarek (794) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870876)

I don't think they'd keep Visual Sourcesafe if they had access to Clearcase. I've met some anti-open-source-and-Free-software people (and regular people, too) that use cvs because Visual Sourcesafe is so bad.

That said, I'm not real impressed by Clearcase either. But I've never heard of it being so bad that users preferred cvs.

-Paul Komarek

Re:Remove the competition... (1)

gss (86275) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870914)

Comparing Sourcesafe to Clearcase isn't really fair. I've heard rumours that Microsoft doesn't even use Sourcesafe internally. Sourcesafe is that mickey mouse of a product.

Re:Remove the competition... (3, Insightful)

danheskett (178529) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870938)

If this is true, they've obviously decided to really flip the bird to the courts...
Except the two companies are basically fucked. Seriously, Rational and Borland aren't exactly titans anymore.

Hell, maybe MS's plan is to buy them and keep them funded and alive to prove to the courts they are interested in competition. Its just as likely.

Eek! (1)

RenHoek (101570) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870804)

Would this mean, that the free commandline compiler would be removed, and everything would be ported to C#?

Talk about a monopoly.. Besides Visual C studio, only Borland is the real competitor to M$ concerning compiler suites.

To what ? (2, Insightful)

noselasd (594905) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870806)

So they buy borland ? Why ? The only thing I can see is that they'll put and end to kylix and jbuilder, trying to hurt 2 of their greatest enemies, linux and java.

There goes open source developement tools (3, Insightful)

Hellkitten (574820) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870807)

MS buys Borland: Bye bye kylix

MS buys Rational: Sue any open source that provides anything similar to rational products, or uses anything rational may have patented

IN SOVIET RUSSIA (-1, Offtopic)

keesh (202812) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870809)

Rational and Borland to buy MS

I thought you were dead or something. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4870873)

Hello.

Re:IN SOVIET RUSSIA (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4870888)

Better..

In Soviet Russia Microshaft buys YOU!

Re: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4870810)

They may become profitable again, but then again, would YOU buy a bloated version of JBuilder?

This makes sense (0)

LibertineR (591918) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870813)

I know there were some very pissed off people at Microsoft that Rational accepted a bid from IBM without even talking to Microsoft. I actually hope Microsoft wins if there is going to be a bidding war.

I HATE Visio for UML, and anything that encourages more UML usage in VS.NET is a good thing. Besides that, the horrific pricing for the Rational Suite should come down.

I want Rose free in my MSDN subcription!

In other news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4870821)

Microsoft pass GO and get 200$

-Bob

Borland and Microsoft?! (1)

vasqzr (619165) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870824)



Didn't Microsoft hire everyone away from Borland in like 1994?

Why are you all worried? (1)

Nevermore-Spoon (610798) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870835)

Why are you all worried that companies that support other OS's are being bought by M$....It's alright, it will be ok....we just read [slashdot.org] on monday that M$ was going to be developing for linux now.

Umm... wait. Raitonal & IBM in agreemt (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4870837)

They've already signed an agreement for IBM to buy Rational.

http://www.rational.com/news/press/pr_view.jsp?I D= 8361

Re:Umm... wait. Raitonal & IBM in agreemt (1)

pbrammer (526214) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870999)

IBM and Rational have already reached an agreement [fool.com] .

This article is either late in getting out or pure rumor.

lemmings (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4870838)

Cant you see that all this news about Rational (and now Borland) is just some disgruntled exec at Rational "leaking" information to the press, hoping to jack the stock price up, so he can sell his options and jump that sinking ship?

The story is first picked up by Reuters, and then by SlashDot, and then by News.COM, and then MSNBC, at which point every Joe Schmoe is yelling "BUY! BUY!" to their broker.

Can't you see: slashdot is part of the problem, not part of the solution.

No Borland .NET IDE (2)

MagPulse (316) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870845)

I was on the Borland Developer Network [borland.com] page yesterday and found this article [zdnet.com] on Borland's upcoming .NET IDE.

"Borland plans to offer an alternative to Microsoft's Visual Studio .NET development environment. Such a product could suit application developers that want to leverage .NET and the best applications from many vendors."

The only other .NET IDE I know of today is SharpDevelop [icsharpcode.net] , which feels sluggish on my P3 1.2GHz. Anyone know of others?

Re:No Borland .NET IDE (1)

Skidmarq (5462) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870899)

Borland recently decided to purchase TogetherSoft [zdnet.com] , whose ConrolCenter product can do VB.NET and C# projects.

Good news from the BBC (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4870846)

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The five, who were unarmed, had been trying to climb a border fence in an area banned to Palestinians when they were shot, the sources said.

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Monopoly... (1)

Arimus (198136) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870849)

I can see how Rational would fit into MS's plans. But Borland? Not much of a fit beyond zapping the competion.


Though how easily this would go down with the regulatory bodies in Europe and the States I'm not sure... Rational again is probably fair enough, but Borland... not much chance (fingers crossed).

D'oh! (4, Funny)

CorporatePunk (624429) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870867)

Next Headline : Microsoft buys C# and Visual Studio. In their attempt to own the world, Microsoft accidentally bought something they already own! Who watches for these kind of things?

not both companies (5, Informative)

Jasn (106824) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870870)

If the submitter had read the story they would have seen that it talks about separate rumors about separate purchases. In particular the Borland rumor has an IBM Rational purchase as its reason for being.

If there were any rumor about MS thinking about bidding for both Rational and Borland as part of the same universe (and bear in mind that even the separate rumors are just rumors), it would surely have been in the first paragraph of Reuters' story, instead of what is (Rational), which is the more important rumor of the two.

MS buys Rational/Borland, what of Linux products? (2, Insightful)

tsetem (59788) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870875)

This is pure speculation on my part. But considering MS's stance on Linux, and supporting non-MS operating systems, would they kill cross-platform support?

I don't know how many customers Rational has that are using the Windows version of their SW (eg: ClearCase & ClearQuest), versus the Linux & Unix versions. Is there enough income coming in to encourage MS to support other platforms?

And as far as Borland is concerned, I would expect the Kylix to get knifed quickly since it's prob not a significant source of revenue.

I could see how IBM buying Rational would be good for Linux & the community. But MS buying Rational seems like a way for MS to kill off a bunch of viable products on non-MS platforms.

Thoughts?

Monopoly in action. (3, Informative)

rasjani (97395) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870885)

Obviously, im not the only one to point this out but.. If MS where to buy Borland, that would make life of the Kylix in Linux quite unstable. While kylix is allready in its second phase and we havent seen massive amounts of free and/or proprietary software build with it, its still microsoft acting against certain market..

Also, Borland products are competing with Visual Studio series, and allthou i havent used anything from Rational (nor from VisualStudio), i guess MS has data modelling tools just like Rational... Yey! Good for competition..

Re:Monopoly in action. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4870998)

Microsoft licenses data modeling tools from Rational to use in their Visual Studio.

Plans? (2)

Halo- (175936) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870887)

IBM plans to buy Rational? IBM is just needs shareholder approval (from Rational) and the government to approve it.

I don't buy it (2)

Delirium Tremens (214596) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870889)

Somebody must be playing rumors to have the stock go up or something.
The truth is, Microsoft may be interested in acquiring Borland, but Borland is most probably not interested in being sold to Microsoft. Anyway, if it was even a remote possibility, Oracle at the very least would step in.

I recieved this as a Rational customer (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4870892)

To our valued customers:

We are delighted to tell you that IBM and Rational Software have announced a definitive agreement for IBM to purchase Rational. This is a very exciting time for both companies and builds on the extensive business relationship IBM and Rational have had for over 20 years. Most importantly, it will provide significant benefits to you.

If you've been using Rational's solution to build business applications to automate your business, you will appreciate the combination of Rational's solution with IBM's e-business strategy. IBM helps customers integrate their business processes and software infrastructures to build an on-demand e-business. This requires the integration of software development, transaction management, data management, collaboration, and systems management and security. With Rational's demonstrated strength in software development, IBM will offer leading solutions in each of these categories and provide a complete solution for creating an on-demand e-business. This includes broad support for your application development efforts for a variety of environments, including J2EE, .NET, and others.

If you've been using Rational's solution to build software for software products and systems, you'll enjoy the benefits of an improved solution through the combination of IBM and Rational technology. Rational's outstanding solution in this space will be amplified through synergies with IBM's pervasive computing strategy. This is an important market for IBM, and Rational is key to IBM's software strategy. Whether you're building a software product, a technical system, real-time software, or embedded software, IBM will be able to provide you with industry-leading products, services and support.

Rational will become the fifth division in IBM Software Group (joining WebSphere, DB2, Lotus, and Tivoli) and retain its brand identity. The division will be led by Mike Devlin, Rational's current CEO.

As with other business acquisitions of this nature, this one will require government regulatory approval and the approval of Rational's shareholders.

IBM and Rational are impressive as separate entities. Together, with our complementary software strategies, people talents, and commitment to customer success, we can provide you with even more value.

Thank you for your continued support. We look forward to expanding our relationship with you in the future.

Best regards,

Steve Mills
Senior Vice President & Group Executive
IBM Software Group

Michael Devlin
CEO
Rational Software

Re:I recieved this as a Rational customer (2, Informative)

LibertineR (591918) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870936)

We all got that letter, but it doesnt mean Jack. Rational is a public company, and they have to accept bids from EVERYONE, no matter what sweet deal the CEO made with IBM.

Microsoft can afford to spend whatever they need to move the shareholders to their side. IBM is going to lose this one.

Why is Rational in trouble? (2, Insightful)

pclminion (145572) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870906)

Why is Rational considering a sale to another corporation, anyway? Do they just need a boost, or are they a sinking ship?

New Borland Product Line (3, Funny)

hayriye (609198) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870913)

J#Builder
Turbo Pascal.NET

antitrust anyone? (2)

10Ghz (453478) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870931)

Wouldn't either of these deals be blocked by the authorities? Like when MS tried to boy Quicken.

Re:antitrust anyone? (2)

Delirium Tremens (214596) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870966)

I doubt it. The authorities might understand the issue when Quicken is involed, but I doubt they have any understanding of what MS buying Borland would mean to the industry.

Hmmm... (1)

waterford0069 (580760) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870933)


Irrational Rose?

Microsoft The Rampant Purchaser (4, Interesting)

SmartGamer (631767) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870939)

Sheesh! This is getting way out of hand, and the government really needs to step in and do something.

Micro$oft has been on a buying spree recently. Rareware was one of its more recent aquisitions, much to my horror. They had good games; now, I'll avoid them on general principle.

M$ is trying to expand by assimilation. Don't have the tools/knowledge/brains/experience to corner a market? Just buy someone who does! If they don't sell, drive them out of business!

This chain will only end with complete Microsoft control of the world- literally- or M$ gets broken up. The government has to step in and cause the second.

Microsoft's "Buy Or Kill" strategy is, unfortunately, an effective one. Destroy all competition, by taking what they have, if possible; expand to new markets by buying the leader of the industry.

End result? A Microsoft monopoly on almost every technological market.

*whimper*

Great! (2, Funny)

lovebyte (81275) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870952)

Now nobody will say that MS does not innovate.

All of Borland's and Rationale's innovations are belong to MS!

In other news... (4, Funny)

TrekCycling (468080) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870968)

Microsoft today acquired the Free Software Foundation, acquiring the GPL and the last vestiges of competition.

This news brought to you via your XBox home media center, by MSNBC.

No, we're not a monopoly yet. Nothing to worry about. Go back to playing your game made by Rare.

IBM and Rational (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4870982)

Didn't IBM already sign something with Rational.. because: this link [rational.com] thinks they did

Ummm... (1)

leibnizme (264472) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870983)

Rational's home page states the following:

"IBM and Rational Software Sign Agreement for IBM to Acquire Rational"

In the FAQ:

"IBM and Rational Software Corp. today announced the two companies have entered into a definitive agreement for IBM to acquire the equity of Rational at a price of approximately $2.1 billion in cash or $10.50 per share."

A definitive agreement? Doesn't sound as though M$ can buy Rational, does it?

Bunk. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4870994)

Funny. Rational seems to think that they are being bought buy IBM [rational.com] and IBM seems to concur [ibm.com] .

It's a free market (2)

dybdahl (80720) | more than 11 years ago | (#4870997)

Having been a Borland tool user since Borland was invented, I'm sure that Delphi could become the JBuilder of .net. This makes a lot of companies interested in buying Borland - for each their reasons: IBM, Sun, Microsoft. One thing is sure: Fuller's own future looks bright, no matter who he sells to.

They already bought Anders... (2, Informative)

mcguirez (524534) | more than 11 years ago | (#4871004)


Well, M$ already has Anders Hejlsberg - the
chief architect/inventor of both Delphi and
C#. I guess it was only a matter of time...

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