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Apple Releases Mac OS X 10.2.3

timothy posted more than 11 years ago | from the next-year-they-go-to-four-decimal-points dept.

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justzisguy writes "Apple has released Mac OS X 10.2.3 for Jaguar via the Software Update utility. The update 'delivers enhanced functionality and improved reliability for the following applications, utilities, and technologies: AppleScript, Classic compatibility, Disk Copy, Disk Utility, Image Capture, Mail, OpenGL, Print Center, and Rendezvous. It provides audio, disc recording, graphics, printing improvements, as well as AFP and WebDAV networking improvements. The update also provides updated security services and includes the latest Security Updates.'"

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WARNING: 51MB download... (2, Informative)

benad (308052) | more than 11 years ago | (#4926480)

I'm still downloading it, so I have no idea if it will blow up my computer once installed...

- Benad

Re:WARNING: 51MB download... (2)

shippo (166521) | more than 11 years ago | (#4926901)

As a UK user with no broadband, I've no idea how I'm going to download this.

My only chance is to take my iPod into work tomorrow (my last day for over a week) and download it to that - assuming it has been posted as a seperate download by then. In fact I'm not certain if there is enough space on my iPod to hold it - must start deleting tracks.

Re:WARNING: 51MB download... (1)

Alan Partridge (516639) | more than 11 years ago | (#4926968)

here's an idea - why not get broadband? It took me about 10 minutes all told for the DL and install / optimise and seeing as I'm posting this, I assume that any problems created aren't terminal. I've got NTL bb, btw - very good service so far at £25 pcm with free install - 600 down, 128 up (£35 for the 1000 / 256 service).

Re:WARNING: 51MB download... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4927123)

I had it downloaded in about 5 minutes over my LAN @ school -- the update is available as a standalone download - so if you have to resort to putting it on your ipod (ever heard of zip drives? cdr drives?) you have a way out!

Re:WARNING: 51MB download... (2)

shippo (166521) | more than 11 years ago | (#4928498)

I live in a small market town. Our BT exchange has yet to be upgraded to ADSL. Cable has never been installed; the local council prevented this a number of years ago when the nearby large town was being fitted with cable.

Re:WARNING: 51MB download... (1)

Alan Partridge (516639) | more than 11 years ago | (#4928554)

how about fixed wireless? AFAIK, both NTL and Tele2 have SOME flexibility in their sites, and the evidence is that where BT ADSL and another bb service is available, BT lose out 4:1. Digital Spy (co.uk) is a good site to find out who's expanding where at any given time

Re:WARNING: 51MB download... (2)

shippo (166521) | more than 11 years ago | (#4928733)

None in my area that I'm aware of. Tele2 are now business only, aren't they?

Re:WARNING: 51MB download... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4929075)

I have a 56K modem myself, so I understand your problem. However, certain modern web browsers (Chimera and MSIE) cache downloads, so you can suspend them and resume them at a later time.

Re:WARNING: 51MB download... (1)

zebra451 (540912) | more than 11 years ago | (#4929211)

I also have dial-up, so I just started the download before I went to bed and turnded off the monitor. This morning all I had to do was re-start the computer. Easy as pie

Re:WARNING: 51MB download... (2)

Gropo (445879) | more than 11 years ago | (#4929546)

exact same story here....

I surely expected the connex to drop at some point, but I awoke to a little present on my desktop this AM in the form of a full "MacOSXUpdate10.2.3.pkg"

P.S. Software Update 1.5.1 allows resumable downloads
(for the other branch in this thread)

OMFG!! (-1, Troll)

elphkotm (574063) | more than 11 years ago | (#4926482)

FP!!!!!!!!!!111 Oh, and Apple kicks ass! This page rules!

Re:OMFG!! (1)

benad (308052) | more than 11 years ago | (#4926516)

FP!!!!!!!!!!

Nope, I did it. ;-)

Oh... and there's even OpenGL 1.4! No word about Java 1.4 though...

- Benad

Re:OMFG!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4926742)

Speaking of not-terribly-edifying posts, and as a Mac user -- isn't a story about a 0.0.1 "enhancement" upgrade that Software Update would have told me about anyway kind of superfluous?

Seriously, too many little stories -- or should I say reports -- makes the bgger ones that much harder to find. It would be nice if they were at least collapsed Slashback style.

Mod me down for an accurate 100% about the story if you must. :) Oh wait, there's this great "Post Anonymously" button....

Re:OMFG!! (3, Interesting)

benad (308052) | more than 11 years ago | (#4926824)

isn't a story about a 0.0.1 "enhancement" upgrade that Software Update would have told me about anyway kind of superfluous?

Not totally. If Guinea Pigs, i.e. me, have major problems with it, this is a very good place to tell others to not update to 10.2.3 until the problem is fixed.

And at 50MB, it's a pretty big update anyways.

Otherwise you're right. This story should be rolled back into "weekly updates" or something...

- Benad

Re:OMFG!! (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4927797)

I think major os upgrades should be posted, the only thing I mind is random updates on stuff no one uses.

major os upgrades like this tend to break things, and I like to hear about them before I download the patches.

Re:OMFG!! (1)

beswicks (584636) | more than 11 years ago | (#4929072)

Java 1.4 previews are available at http://developer.apple.com/ you need to register to download tho.

Java 1.4 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4929117)

Apple has released a preview version of java 1.4 to developers for testing purposes only. Note that it's the equivalent of alpha status right now, but if you want, you can download it if you get an account at connect.apple.com.

Knowledge Base Document (5, Informative)

benad (308052) | more than 11 years ago | (#4926492)

Re:Knowledge Base Document (0, Redundant)

justzisguy (573704) | more than 11 years ago | (#4926552)

I was going to post the KBase document, but it was down when I posted the article. In other news: so far, my Mac's still alive and running 10.2.3! :)

Re:Knowledge Base Document (2)

DiSKiLLeR (17651) | more than 11 years ago | (#4927462)

I can't seem to get at the stand alone installer :/

I need to get it mirrored on telstra's GameArena so downloading this doesn't affect my 3gb cap.

I hate the state of broadband in Australia, sigh.

D.

Re:Knowledge Base Document (5, Informative)

tim1724 (28482) | more than 10 years ago | (#4931170)

One of the cool features added to Software Update a few versions back is the ability to have it save downloaded packages to your desktop (as opposed to its default behavior of putting them in /tmp/com.apple.SoftwareUpdate and deleting them when it finishes)

Just select the update(s) you want, then choose the "Download selected updates" menu item instead of clicking "Install" .. it will download the update as an Installer package which you can then copy to other machines.

Note that if you do this, your Software Update log file won't be updated with the time and date of installation because Installer.app will actually be installing the update.

So there's no need to wait for Apple to post a link to the file on their website anymore! (Unless you forget and accidently click "install" .. there's no way to go back and download updates you already have.)

Most Important Enhancement (2)

toupsie (88295) | more than 11 years ago | (#4927781)

From The KB Note:
Adds a Canadian English language spell checking dictionary.

They couldn't spell before?

Re:Most Important Enhancement (2, Informative)

dadragon (177695) | more than 10 years ago | (#4931277)

Before, we had US and UK English spell check dictionaries. Canadian English is a mix of US and UK English. You used to have to pick one and add the correct spelling to it for words it didn't recognize.

Re:Knowledge Base Document (1)

mapinguari (110030) | more than 11 years ago | (#4928405)

Addresses a potential issue in which playing certain system alert sounds could cause the Login window to appear.

Oh, now that sounds good. I bet there's a great story behind that bug.

10.2.2 Kernel Panic (1)

PKFC (580410) | more than 11 years ago | (#4926528)

Does this update fix the silly kernel panic [slashdot.org] ?

Re:10.2.2 Kernel Panic (5, Informative)

Twirlip of the Mists (615030) | more than 11 years ago | (#4926612)

I don't know whether this was legit in 10.2.2 or not, but it doesn't cause a panic in 10.2.3.

Just updated. Happy as a clam, so far.

Re:10.2.2 Kernel Panic (1)

andrewski (113600) | more than 11 years ago | (#4927857)

I have never had a problem with that silly kernel panic.

Then again, I use a real unix file system, not that hack job called HFS+.

Re:10.2.2 Kernel Panic (5, Informative)

TiMac (621390) | more than 11 years ago | (#4928042)

Well,

Then that's your decision, and IMO, your mistake. But don't slam HFS+ unless you know all the info. UFS has some advantages yes, but Apple does not recommend its use for OS X except for Development and compatibility...HFS+ is preferred for several reasons.

Perhaps you should read the paper [mit.edu] by Wilfredo Sanchez, who was at the time a lead developer on Darwin/OS X. The first section is called "File systems" and discusses HFS+ vs UFS. A good read..and you might find that you could have incompatibilities with some files and programs that base themselves on the old Mac Toolbox (and Carbon to some degree). Just a thought.

Re:10.2.2 Kernel Panic (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4928182)

Yes it does. I had tested "mkdir ~/mydir; cd ~/mydir; mkdir mydir; mv mydir .." when it was 10.2.2, it crashed. After updating to 10.2.3, it works w/o any problem.

Does it fix the Mail attachments issue? (1)

emd (25227) | more than 11 years ago | (#4926591)

Does it fix the mail attachment issue? If not, I may have to switch mail clients!

Re:Does it fix the Mail attachments issue? (4, Informative)

Twirlip of the Mists (615030) | more than 11 years ago | (#4926630)

Are you talking about the AppleDouble thing? This issue has been put to bed already. Mail.app encodes attachments with the AppleDouble encoding scheme, and some mail readers (notably Outlook) aren't capable of interpreting that encoding scheme. To those readers, AppleDouble attachments look like two separate attachments, one for the data fork and one small one for the resource fork.

This problem doesn't lie with Mail.app or with Apple at all. It lies with the makers of mail readers who don't support documented, open standards for encoding attachments.

Re:Does it fix the Mail attachments issue? (1)

emd (25227) | more than 11 years ago | (#4927168)

I think Mail should offer you the option of how you want your attachments encoded. Outlook Express does. Can't be that hard.

Re:Does it fix the Mail attachments issue? (2)

Twirlip of the Mists (615030) | more than 11 years ago | (#4927849)

And I think Outlook ought to be able to handle attachments encoded with the industry-standard, thoroughly documented AppleDouble format. Can't be that hard.

Re:Does it fix the Mail attachments issue? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4930090)

This attitude is the reason why the Mac only has a 3% market share. Apple should be doing everthing possible to make life easier for Mac owners - like being able to send attachments to Windows users.

Re:Does it fix the Mail attachments issue? (1)

Alan Partridge (516639) | more than 11 years ago | (#4927138)

nope - it's still fucked, crashes on certain attachment types

Does it remove the carbon and coco libraries? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4926694)

I read a story earlier on slashdot that Apple was removing coco libraries from their computers because of a dispute over the GPL. This was pretty quick after the announcement!

Re:Does it remove the carbon and coco libraries? (3, Informative)

lexarius (560925) | more than 11 years ago | (#4926794)

Uhhh... that would be like Microsoft removing the MFC libraries from Windows because of the GPL. I believe you are referring to the GNU-Darwin project (not affiliated with Apple), which has some disputes with Apple and so is removing support for Apple libraries and PPC processors.

Re:Does it remove the carbon and coco libraries? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4927910)

Is it not just the darwin ports project that is removing the proprietary APIs and PPC support?

Re:Does it remove the carbon and coco libraries? (1, Offtopic)

Graymalkin (13732) | more than 11 years ago | (#4926856)

Why in the holiest of unholies does this crap get modded up as of all things interesting? Moderators, next time you do things like this, pretend for a second YOU ARE the poor soul viewing slashdot using IP over carrier pigeon. PETA is gonna be after your ass for giving the pigeon and unnecessarily heavy load.

Re:Does it remove the carbon and coco libraries? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4928779)

The 'coco' libraries?

Eh, coco, it's COCOA, like in chocolate, you coco.

New Widgets (4, Interesting)

usr122122121 (563560) | more than 11 years ago | (#4926698)

10.2.3 Has new window widgets for the "Brushed Metal" windows...

I can't say whether or not I like 'em yet though...

Re:New Widgets (4, Informative)

iomud (241310) | more than 11 years ago | (#4926872)

itunes has the older widgets still. Calculator, isync, ical and address book have the newer widgets. I also noticed right clicking produces snappier menu's too, for instance if you have your applications folder in the dock and right click on it, just seems a little quicker after the update.

Re:New Widgets (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4926990)

me like new widgets - veeerrry smooth!

Re:New Widgets (2)

foniksonik (573572) | more than 11 years ago | (#4927255)

The 'open with' lag also seems to have been fixed.

Re:New Widgets (2)

ProfKyne (149971) | more than 11 years ago | (#4928862)

itunes has the older widgets still

I'm pretty sure iTunes is a Carbon application, whereas those others are written with Cocoa APIs. Those widgets must be a part of AppKit framework.

Re:New Widgets (2)

foniksonik (573572) | more than 11 years ago | (#4927010)

I've been using demetallifizer to get rid of the metal look so I only see it in iTunes or other carbon apps, so widgets must only be new in cocoa apps with metal theme.

Re:New Widgets (1)

gidds (56397) | more than 11 years ago | (#4927393)

I'm the reverse: I use Metallifizer to get the metal look on everything I can!

Result: all apps seem to have the new recessed widgets apart from iTunes. Perhaps it's the only one which doesn't use the system widgets.

I'm not convinced by the new ones yet. I'm not sure I like the idea of recessed widgets anyway, and this particular design just looks awkward and hacked-on.

Re:New Widgets (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4927670)

I think we have a case of the old forgotten shadows :) Have a close look at before/after shots of the widgets... the new ones seem to be the old ones without the shadowing, which explains why they seem to be out of place, as well. Whoops.

Re:New Widgets (1)

megabulk3000 (305530) | more than 11 years ago | (#4928289)

If you're using a theme, via Duality, the new widgets will fuck you up (i.e. the widgets will completely disappear in certain brushed metal apps like Address Book or iChat or iCal). A description and fix are available here [obzorg.org] .

Re:New Widgets (3, Interesting)

danamania (540950) | more than 11 years ago | (#4928484)

I don't know if I want to be a mac user anymore

Personally, I prefer the new sunken-look ones, but it's fair if you like the previous...

Talking to a few other mac people I know, they're acting like Apple is on crack for ruining a GUI by changing those few little buttons. The response seemed more volatile than when flowerpower imacs appeared

We scare me sometimes.

a grrl & her server [danamania.com]

Mac OS X 10.2.3 for Jaguar? (3, Insightful)

MrResistor (120588) | more than 11 years ago | (#4926714)

I thought OS X 10.2 was jaguar, which would make the "for jaguar" redundant (never mind that X and 10 thing).

I don't mean this a flamebait, I'm actually curious if Jaguar is something distinct from anything else 10.2

Re:Mac OS X 10.2.3 for Jaguar? (3, Informative)

Graymalkin (13732) | more than 11 years ago | (#4926839)

Version 10.2 IS Jaguar, I also do not understand where people get confused with this. I suppose it could be the fact you see the system refered to Jaguar in some places and OSX in others and then 10.2 in yet other places.

Re:Mac OS X 10.2.3 for Jaguar? (1)

Analog Penguin (550933) | more than 11 years ago | (#4927224)

I thnk they specify "for Jaguar" to make it clear that you can only use this update if you have Jaguar (as opposed to being able to install it over a copy of, say, 10.1.5).

A Classic-killer? (1)

bpbond (246836) | more than 11 years ago | (#4926993)

I've just installed the 10.2.3 update, and Classic refuses to start--the startup window is just hanging there. (Process is not hung, though.) This is a plain-vanilla Classic; nothing unusual installed at all. Anyway if you depend on it to do work, maybe hold off on updating until other reports come in.

Re:A Classic-killer? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4927476)

I just installed the update, rebooted, and fired up bugdom in classic. Classic warned me that it needed to install some updated components, but other than that it was fine.


Here's hoping that this will fix the random name resolution problem we've been having since 10.2.2. Fairly frequently all name resolution stops working via the (libc?) resolver routines, but 'nslookup' with the shell continues to work, as do IP address in the browser window.

Re:A Classic-killer? (2, Informative)

o_kenway (246260) | more than 11 years ago | (#4929427)

It works fine for me - it wanted to update some stuff in my system folder when I first stated it but that's all.

Big difference (1)

sockit2me9000 (589601) | more than 11 years ago | (#4927053)

Wow, I'm really noticing a speed improvement. ical opens in one bounce and everything in general seems much more snappy. Very impressed.

Re:Big difference (0, Flamebait)

Alan Partridge (516639) | more than 11 years ago | (#4927155)

some dickhead always says this. Run a fucking benchmark and get back to us, numbnuts

Re:Big difference (5, Funny)

whee (36911) | more than 11 years ago | (#4927524)

After an hour of strenuous testing, I have some hard data to back up sockit2me9000's informal benchmark. First a clean install of Mac OS X Jaguar 10.2 is performed on an 800MHz PowerBook G4 with 512MB of RAM. Boot time and iCal launch time is measured four times. For each trial, the system is booted cleanly. No userland applications are running at the time of iCal Bounce Measurement (ICBM).

Finally, the 10.2.3 update is installed, and the above measurements are repeated.

Data: (10.2)
Trial 1:
Boot time: 28.452 seconds
ICBM: 1.989 bounces

Trial 2:
Boot time: 26.985 seconds
ICBM: 1.687 bounces

Trial 3:
Boot time: 27.189 seconds
ICBM: 2.176 bounces

Trial 4:
Boot time: 25.923 seconds
ICBM: 1.878 bounces

Data: (10.2.3)
Trial 1:
Boot time: 22.785 seconds
ICBM: 1.373 bounces

Trial 2:
Boot time: 24.873 seconds
ICBM: 1.284 bounces

Trial 3:
Boot time: 22.291 seconds
ICBM: 1.262 bounces

Trial 4:
Boot time: 25.843 seconds
ICBM: 1.348 bounces

It is observed that the average boot time for 10.2 is 27.137 seconds, with an average ICBM of 1.932 bounces. On the other hand, 10.2.3 yields an average boot time of 23.948 seconds, with an average of 1.317 bounces. Clearly, 10.2.3 is faster in all cases.

This intensive analysis has led me to the only conclusion that may be derived from these results: there are no plastics that require waxing for the optimal frisbee density. Further analysis may be required in order to determine the optimal frisbee color, however.

Manual Download (2, Funny)

PhlegmMaster (596165) | more than 11 years ago | (#4927075)

Can someone provide me with a manual download link (apple seems to have taken that out) as I can't use Software update for updates as XP crashes (don't ask, it just doesn't work).

I'm curious as to why their patches are soooooo large.

Re:Manual Download (1)

rf600r (236081) | more than 11 years ago | (#4927387)

XP? WTF are you talking about?

Re:Manual Download (2)

dildatron (611498) | more than 11 years ago | (#4930370)

How was that crack you smoke this mornin'?

VPC 6 (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4927110)

Virtual PC Users -- if you've taken a careful look @ the VPC 6 release you'll notice a * on the "speed improvements" bullet item which states you need a "future release of OS X" for the enhancements to be effective -- this is that release ;).

Re:VPC 6 (1)

Zane Edwards (562074) | more than 11 years ago | (#4929870)

As just a side note for those hesitating to get the latest VPC:

I was incredibly impressed with the speed of VPC. The app snaps just like a normal PC.

It takes about 10 seconds to restore a saved PC under a G4 933. (I was also burning a CD at the same time.)

BSOD still happens though ;)

I even installed Debian (in VPC) on my old 450 dvse imac at home!

Also, I am able to finally use the cosmos (or any other picture based) screensaver on my imac at home.
I think Jaguar is at its best now.

does anyone know (2)

djupedal (584558) | more than 11 years ago | (#4927501)

...what the update number is? Should be a four digit reference, such as 1234...thanks

got it.... (3, Informative)

djupedal (584558) | more than 11 years ago | (#4927561)

If anyone has remote access to their box, and needs to update remotely:

Software Update found the following new or updated software:

- 3560 Mac OS X Update (10.2.3), 52200K - restart required

Simply issue this command:

softwareupdate 3560

...and wait for a response to restart...it's big. There are segmented updates available from Apple.com for those that don't want the +50mb that this one carries.

Canadian Dictionary (5, Funny)

DJCouchyCouch (622482) | more than 11 years ago | (#4927647)

From the KB article:

> Adds a Canadian English language spell checking dictionary.

Woot! Er, I mean Wout!

MN. (1)

Asterax (522761) | more than 11 years ago | (#4927651)

I believe MacNode.com is hosting the update as well, assuming Lore has his ass in gear. This should be quite useful for all you iDSL customers in the California area. ;P

Includes CUPS fixes... (5, Informative)

dr00g911 (531736) | more than 11 years ago | (#4927727)

Some of you may not be aware that MacOS X's printer sharing uses the CUPS system [slashdot.org] .

There was a big public disclosure today about CUPS exploits, and there's sample code and methodology available now, for white and black hats alike.

At any rate, it has been confirmed that the 10.2.3 update patches the security holes in the CUPS code in addition to lots of other security and performance-related stuff.

I'm repeating this in this thread because some Mac-types may gloss over the security/unix sections, because they don't think it applies to them.

Bottom line: it does, and it's big stuff, so get your swupdate a-running.

--dr00gy

Re:Includes CUPS fixes... (1)

befletch (42204) | more than 11 years ago | (#4927965)

At any rate, it has been confirmed that the 10.2.3 update patches the security holes in the CUPS code in addition to lots of other security and performance-related stuff.

Ok, fixes for CUPS updates are good. But for most home users, wouldn't they be safe behind the OS's default firewall configuration anyway? Nobody on the net has any business opening connections to anything but my ssh port, and even that wasn't accessible externally until I found the right checkbox.

Re:Includes CUPS fixes... (4, Insightful)

dr00g911 (531736) | more than 11 years ago | (#4928078)

Actually, the OS's firewall is *OFF* by default, for what it's worth.

However, most all web services (SSH, FTP, etc.) are also off by default (including CUPS).

The problem lies in the fact that most home users, when they click the box that says "Share This Printer" they don't realize that they're SHARING the printer -- the hooks are in place for remote printing, even though it requires an admin password -- and even fewer of 'em realize that it opens an HTTP port for configuration options (837? I forget, and I'm too lazy to look it up right now).

Nobody on the Net has any business opening connections to any port on your machine, but you'll get sniffed nonetheless.

5 minutes and a reboot. Get in the habit.

Re:Includes CUPS fixes... (2)

ProfKyne (149971) | more than 11 years ago | (#4928872)

I'm repeating this in this thread because some Mac-types may gloss over the security/unix sections, because they don't think it applies to them.

Sure those types exist, but I doubt they're reading Slashdot.

Re:Includes CUPS fixes... (2)

dildatron (611498) | more than 11 years ago | (#4929993)

I am a mac type and a linux type and a unix type and i read slashdot, and security is important to me!

where is my cookie?

Standalone Installers (4, Informative)

blb (412923) | more than 11 years ago | (#4927741)

Standalone installers are now available for the combo update [apple.com] and the update from 10.2.2 [apple.com] .

Most important change (5, Informative)

geek (5680) | more than 11 years ago | (#4927755)

OpenGL 1.4!!!! That's why it's a 51 meg download.

All of my games now run MUCH faster, WarCraft3, Alice, Quake3, AvP even the Sims.

Re:Most important change (1)

fintler (140604) | more than 11 years ago | (#4928174)

feel lucky it's only 50M...the server 10.2.3 update is 70M

Re:Most important change (1)

dair (210) | more than 11 years ago | (#4928874)

OpenGL 1.4!!!! That's why it's a 51 meg download.

/System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework is only 5.2Mb (4.4Mb when compressed). Even if the entire bundle changed, that's not a huge chunk of the download.

Thing I have noticed (5, Informative)

thatguywhoiam (524290) | more than 11 years ago | (#4928025)

Besides the fact that 51 MB is one Bulging Assload of Patch.

- Canadian English Dictionary, about fekkin' time.
- my G4's FireWire Port, which had a tiff with my iBook about 6 months ago (via Target disk mode) and weren't speaking, have reconciled and are now working things through
- there's strange flattened aqua widgets in metal-skinned cocoa apps.. minor tweak
- G4's insomnia was cured (and identified - File Sharing. Always the File Sharing.)
- OpenGL 1.4 Noticeable difference in speed. This applies to QuartzExtreme as well.. I'd say a good 15-25%
- basic FTP support in the Finder works well now
- fixed the stupid Keychain bug

An update from Apple? (0, Troll)

snerdy (444659) | more than 11 years ago | (#4928103)

That's nice. How much does this one cost?

Spang!
-Dylan

command-tab functional (3, Interesting)

alwaldauer (467649) | more than 11 years ago | (#4928171)

I noticed that the command-tab function finally works as expected by switching between the most often used programs rather than simpy by order placed in the dock.

Re:command-tab functional (1)

justzisguy (573704) | more than 11 years ago | (#4928424)

I believe this has been the case since 10.2.

Apple System Profiler Crashes... (2)

Cinematique (167333) | more than 11 years ago | (#4928336)

This isn't new to 10.2.3, but I can't seem to get ASP open. When I run it, it'll crash after two or three seconds.

Anyone know what's up?

You're not the only one... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4929013)

I fired up Apple System Profiler after installing the update. I saw the progress bar and "gathering information" dialog for around 6 seconds and then it quits unexpectedly.

I didn't run ASP immediately before installing the update, so I don't know if it caused it. But it *is* annoying not to have a functional ASP.

Re:Apple System Profiler Crashes... (1)

kris2112 (136712) | more than 11 years ago | (#4929055)

Are you running Norton utilities? I had the profiler crashes with Norton installed, and after doing an uninstall System Profiler appeared to work fine.

I was actually trying to use System Profiler to see which kernel extensions belonged to Norton so I could remove them. I'd rather have journaling than Norton, as they're mutually exclusive at the moment.

Re:Apple System Profiler Crashes... (2)

Cinematique (167333) | more than 10 years ago | (#4930936)

I was, but I (thought) I removed every single trace of the damn thing.

Don't suffer "Go Fever" with any Apple update (4, Informative)

Spencerian (465343) | more than 11 years ago | (#4928790)

(Reposted from my blog, but I couldn't say it any better.)

Trust me: Don't blindly install everything that Apple provides via Software Update.

Specifically, you need to read the instructions for all updates before you begin any update.

I've been reading lots of readers caught in gotchas caused by the Power Mac G4 Mirrored Drive Doors Firmware Update, the Mac OS X 10.2.2. update, and other installations. For many of these users, the problem comes down to neglecting to think about what you're doing. Hell, even I've been guilty of doing this a few weeks ago when I updated my MDD Power Mac to 10.2.2, knowing that it would hose my computer due to a bug with the HP printing software that causes its drivers to hog processing time until your Mac slows to a crawl or kernel panics.

And why did I do it? Because I wasn't thinking. I was caught in that Macintosh mode of thinking where we expect the moon and the stars from anything that Apple provides to us, especially if it's a freebie. It's a different psychology than what some PC users may understand, where caution is much stronger than in the Macintosh world. When most Mac users buy software, we rip the CD from the case, install the software, and damn any manuals or instructions that come with the program. In the earlier years of the Macintosh, this wasn't as much of a problem because of the simpler design. However, this ain't your dad's Mac. It's your Mac, and it's running not only a different Mac OS, but likely has a dramatically different hardware design that requires a little more care.

Professionals and home users need to use some common sense steps for any software update or install:

1) READ the instructions about any software installation or update.
2) UNDERSTAND what the update or install is supposed to do. If you don't understand the purpose of a particular update, don't install it until you find someone that knows and can explain it to you.
3) WAIT several days after an update is introduced before you even THINK about installing an update. If there are real problems with the software itself, this problem will show itself from the many trouble reports you'l see on the Internet. In other words, let other more careless people "beta-test" the updates for you in advance.

Two good places to visit for trouble reports are MacFixit [macfixit.com] or Apple's Discussion Boards on their Support Page.

4) READ the instructions for the update again.
5) PRINT a copy of the instructions BEFORE you begin.
6) DETERMINE A PLAN to revert the change (if the update allows it)
7) DECIDE if the update is really worth installing.

Remember that users who have tweaked their Mac OS X installation dramatically (read: against Apple's recommended configuration) may experience a bad time. If you have hacked an old Mac (read: not an original G3 or G4) to run Mac OS X, you should already know that you're running the bleeding edge of compatibility.

It's a good thing that we have BSD underneath our Mac OS GUI. It leaves many more possibilities for repairs or changes, unlike in the old Mac OS 9 days where we'd have to wait for Apple to get with the problem and provide a fix. A good example: after the HP printer software problem appeared with the 10.2.2 update, several enterprising people developed several workarounds and temporary fixes while Apple and HP slowly find an official solution.
[Update: The fix is part of the 10.2.3 update.]

Your mileage may vary with any update. Don't experience "Go Fever" [space.com] with your Macintosh, or things could blow up real good.

Re:Don't suffer "Go Fever" with any Apple update (2)

feldsteins (313201) | more than 11 years ago | (#4928891)

Yeah, you really gotta watch that sneaky Apple. Introducing new software with bugs that they don't even tell you about beforehand. Nobody else would do that. Those smart Windows users. How I envy them.

Not.

And by the way - people who don't read the "readme" aren't going to read your post either.

Re:Don't suffer "Go Fever" with any Apple update (2)

Spencerian (465343) | more than 11 years ago | (#4928944)

Apparently you hadn't had your morning coffee.

Re:Don't suffer "Go Fever" with any Apple update (2)

Greedo (304385) | more than 11 years ago | (#4930100)

If you have hacked an old Mac (read: not an original G3 or G4) to run Mac OS X, you should already know that you're running the bleeding edge of compatibility.

Okay, I'm curious ... any details on how one would go about doing this?

Re:Don't suffer "Go Fever" with any Apple update (1)

Van Halen (31671) | more than 11 years ago | (#4930836)

XPostFacto [macsales.com] . Haven't tried it myself, but it reportedly works.

Stripes strike back! (1)

jlo (587297) | more than 11 years ago | (#4929109)

I have been using succesfully the Duality [conundrumsoft.com] theme changer. But after updating to the X.2.3, the stripes I've always hated bitterly came back stronger than ever. Knowing that Apple doesn't like their terrible Aqua theme being changed, it makes me wonder does Duality still work.

I start fighting back now, so wish me luck that my GUI doesn't blow up.

*j*

Re:Stripes strike back! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4929588)

Yes, I already switched my theme back to "Milk" with Duality.

iSub (2)

Triv (181010) | more than 11 years ago | (#4929767)

Ooh! I think (tho I'm not sure - I'll know when I get home from work) that this update fixes the pesky "iSub powers down after inactivity and never wakes up without a plug-unplug of the USB cord or a restart" problem. I can't wait. :)

I'm also tickled pink about openGL 1.4 - does this fix the problem with games like DiabloII (or Baldur's gate II) that refuse to run acceptably with 3D-acceleration turned on? Please say yes. :)

Triv

Re:iSub - Me too! (2)

Malic (15038) | more than 10 years ago | (#4931267)

I hope you're right. I've been resorting to pulling the USB out, wait, and plug it back in again to solve the problem. It's been like this for months. Apple fixed it once, then it came back again. I sent them feedback on this.

If 10.2.3 DOESN'T fix this, I urge iSub owners to send feedback to Apple.

Apple Developer releases too (4, Informative)

frankie (91710) | more than 11 years ago | (#4930068)

Downloadable, requires free online registration [apple.com] :
  • 2002/12/11 - December 2002 Mac OS X Developer Tools - 300MB
  • 2002/12/19 - Java 1.4.1 Developer Preview 8 - 25MB
Please don't go there for another 30 minutes though; the connection is partly Slashdotted already and I'm only 18% done.

The Whole "Security Announce" blurb for X.II.III (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4930436)

Just got this in this morning's e-mail:

---

To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
http://www.lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/securi ty-announce
or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
security-announce-request@lists.apple.com

You can reach the person managing the list at
security-announce-admin@lists.apple.com

When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
than "Re: Contents of security-announce digest..."

Today's Topics:

1. APPLE-SA-2002-12-19 Mac OS X 10.2.3 (Apple Product Security)

--__--__--

Message: 1
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 19:25:54 -0800
Subject: APPLE-SA-2002-12-19 Mac OS X 10.2.3
From: Apple Product Security
To: security-announce@lists.apple.com

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

APPLE-SA-2002-12-19 Mac OS X 10.2.3

Mac OS X 10.2.3 Software Update is now available. It contains fixes for
the
following potential security issues:

* fetchmail: Fixes CAN-2002-1174 and CAN-2002-1175 which could lead
to a potential denial of service when using the fetchmail command-line
tool.
fetchmail is updated to version 6.1.2+IMAP-GSS+SSL+INET6

* CUPS: Provides fixes for the following potential issues that could be
exploited remotely when Printer Sharing is enabled. Printer Sharing is
not enabled by default on Mac OS X or Mac OS X Server.
CAN-2002-1383: Multiple Integer Overflows
CAN-2002-1366: /etc/cups/certs/ Race Condition
CAN-2002-1367: Adding Printers with UDP Packets
CAN-2002-1368: Negative Length Memcpy() Calls
CAN-2002-1384: Integer Overflows in pdftops Filter and Xpdf
CAN-2002-1369: Unsafe Strncat Function Call in jobs.c
CAN-2002-1370: Root Certificate Design Flaw
CAN-2002-1371: Zero Width Images in filters/image-gif.c
CAN-2002-1372: File Descriptor Resource Leaks

In addition, Mac OS X 10.2.3 provides the following enhanced security
features:

* Random initialization of TCP Timestamp: This enhancement was submitted
by
Aaron Linville through the Darwin open source program. It prevents a
remote entity
from discovering how long a machine has been up based on the ID in the TCP
packets.

* Disk Utility now provides the option to zero data on the disk,
providing an
additional method for securing information.

Mac OS X 10.2.3 Software Update may be obtained from:

* Software Update pane in System Preferences

- OR -

* Apple's Software Downloads web site:
Updating from Mac OS X 10.2:
http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n120164
The download file is named: "MacOSXUpdateCombo10.2.3.dmg"
Its SHA-1 digest is: 46df611279b9981425be2cff23c3b3ed868d1809

Updating from Mac OS X 10.2.2:
http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n120165
The download file is named: "MacOSXUpdate10.2.3.dmg"
Its SHA-1 digest is: a51ed65311ad59879db7e728779e9cd4084057b5

Information will also be posted to the Apple Support web site:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?art num=617 98

This message is signed with Apple's Product Security PGP key, and
details are available at:
http://www.apple.com/support/security/securit y_pgp .html

None of my programs run now (1)

happyloman (237885) | more than 10 years ago | (#4930995)

except chimera, most of my 3rd party programs don't run now including MS Office, Dreamweaver, IE, and more.

Re:None of my programs run now (2, Informative)

didlybom (608643) | more than 10 years ago | (#4931948)

It might seems obvious, but... did you reboot? I couldn't launch applications during the update process. After rebooting, everything was working fine again.

Firewire improvements (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#4931051)

The update fixed a problem I had with an external firewire disk using an Oxford 9-11 bridge, which would not mount in 10.2.2 -- now it does! It seems to have boosted the general speed quite noticeably too...

Where is CVS??? (2)

goon america (536413) | more than 10 years ago | (#4931870)

I just installed the update, and now the CVS utilities have vanished from my system! I was just expecting it to overwrite /etc/motd (which it did not), not uninstall CVS!!

Questions:

1. WTF???

2. Anyone know where I can find an OS X CVS installer package?

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