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DVD Review: Back to the Future Trilogy (Widescreen)

timothy posted more than 11 years ago | from the what-the-hell-is-a-gigawatt dept.

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da3dAlus writes "The Back to the Future trilogy has probably been one of the most highly anticipated DVD releases, mainly due to the age and enduring popularity of the movies. No matter how many times the movies have been shown on TV, I guarantee that nobody has seen the Back to the Future series like this before." da3dAlus gives the Robert Zemeckis-directed trilogy a 9.8 out of 10; read the rest of his review below, as well as a warning about the transfer quality.

All 3 movies have undergone audio and video re-mastering. Audio was updated to the de-facto 5.1 digital surround, and all film was not only digitally transferred, but cleaned up and rendered crystal clear. The bonus material not only gives additional value to the DVDs, but also helps to answer numerous questions about the movies, including time travel, plot lines, and the characters themselves. My intentions here are to generally review the DVD, but not reveal any of the specific deleted scenes, for those that still want something to remain a surprise.

To begin, the movies themselves are intact, as originally shown in the theaters. Unlike recent DVD releases of 80s classics (ie. the gun-to-walkie-talkie edits in E.T.), there were no political corrections made. While this is not usually something of concern, there were TV edits made that removed "the Libyans" from the first movie, shortly after the 9-11 events. All that aside, the DVDs are a pretty standard affair, with each one being themed after the respective movies: Part 1 in the 50s, Part 2 in the future, and Part 3 in the old west.

For a DVD box set that has been over 15 years in the making, Zemeckis and team definitely deliver. This set has all that you would expect of any feature-packed DVDs, including deleted scenes, outtakes, original trailers, and behind the scenes features. The movies themselves contain additional commentaries, and an option that pops up an icon for additional production notes and factoids during viewing. Even the deleted scenes have an option for viewing with commentary by Robert Zemeckis and Bob Gale.

The larger behind the scenes features include a "Making of" for each of the three movies, and an overall "Making of the Trilogy" that spans all three DVDs. Among the smaller behind the scenes features are the evolution of special effects, production Q&A's, making of the DeLorean time machine, and the original discussion of the time-travel plot lines.

Among the only drawbacks I noticed were a few minor flaws in the DVD menus. While viewing the bonus material, some features returned to a pure black menu. However, the problem isn't critical, as pressing the Menu button on your DVD remote will eventually take you back to the main menu. It's just distracting to have such a flaw that appears on each of the DVDs.

Overall, I'm extremely pleased with the conversion of the movies to DVD format, and even more so with the additional material on the DVDs. Personally, I know I've had questions about what I thought were plot holes in the whole time travel theory, and Zemeckis made sure to include plenty of notes, FAQs, and Q&As to clear up any confusion, or add to it, depending on your acceptance of his answers. Bottom line: if you've ever waited for an answer to your "whys" or "what ifs" --- or if you just want to enjoy the movies as they are, then look no further than the Back to the Future trilogy.


However, hang on a second: NetGyver writes with a reason to hold off on buying this trilogy:

"The Digital Bits is reporting that the widescreen matting has been done in error on the BTTF Part II and III discs in the trilogy box set. The results very from minor to extremely irritating. Here is a side by side frame comparison between the full-screen DVDs/Laserdisc/and widescreen DVDs for you to view.

The widescreen DVD set is considered defective and Universal has an exchange program on the way where you can mail in discs II and III for replacements. But that won't roll out until late February 2003. There is no word for disc replacements for other regions besides North America, at least for now. This a fix for those who already own the widescreen DVD set. The corrected DVD batch will arrive in U.S. stores in late February according to Universal Studios."


Slashdot welcomes reader-submitted features and reviews, and thanks da3dAlus for this one.

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Marty! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4945741)

Back! To the future!

1.21 JIGAWATTS!?!?!?!!? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4945773)

What the hell is a jigawatt?

Re:1.21 JIGAWATTS!?!?!?!!? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4945795)

those are the negro watts

You know, Jigawatts (1)

megabyte405 (608258) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945811)

like that 40 jigabyte hard drive you have in your computer, anonycow.

*shakes head*

I guess anonycows can't see past interesting pronounciation. There was a time, in the past, when giga-anything wasn't in the vernacular.

Re:1.21 JIGAWATTS!?!?!?!!? (5, Informative)

AriesGeek (593959) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945950)

Actually, Doc Brown is the only person that I've ever heard pronounce "giga" correctly. Yes, it's true. Look it up some time.

Re:1.21 JIGAWATTS!?!?!?!!? (2, Interesting)

dmarkle (628064) | more than 11 years ago | (#4946000)

WOW! I just looked it up at m-w.com. I can't believe it. Jigawatt is actually the first listed pronunciation of the word "gigawatt". Incredible. Now I have really learned something. And now for you: The peak output capacity of Grand Coulee Dam in Washington State is 6GW! That's about enough for 5 deloreans!

Dont forget the past! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4945853)

OPERATING THETAN
Section Three

The head of the Galactic Federation (76 planets around larger stars visible from here) (founded 75,000,000 years ago, very space opera) solved overpopulation (250 billion or so per planet -178 billion on average) by mass implanting. He caused people to be brought to Teegeeack (Earth) and put an H-Bomb on the principal volcanoes (Incident II) and THEN the Pacific area ones were taken in boxes to HAWAII and the Atlantic area ones to LAS PALMAS and then re "packaged". His name was Xenu. He used renegades. Various misleading data by means of circuits etc. was placed in the implants. When through with his crime loyal officers (to the people) captured him after six years of battle and put him in an electronic mountain trap where he still is. "They" are gone. The place (Confederation) has since been a desert. The length and brutality of it all was such that this Confederation never recovered. The implant is calculated to kill (by pneumonia etc.) anyone who attempts to solve it. This liability has been dispensed with by my tech development.

One can freewheel through the implant and die unless it is approached as precisely outlined. The "freewheel" (auto-running on and on) lasts too long, denies sleep etc. and one dies. So be careful to do only Incidents I and II as given and not plough around and fail to complete one thetan at a time.

In December 1967 I knew someone had to take the plunge. I did and emerged very knocked out, but alive. Probably the only one ever to do so in 75,000,000 years. I have ALL the data now, but only that given here is needful.

One's body is a mass of individual thetans stuck to oneself or to the body.

One has to clean them off by running Incident II and Incident I. It is a long job, requiring care, patience and good auditing. You are running beings. They respond like any preclear. Some large, some small.

Thetans believed they were ONE. This is the primary error. Good luck.* * *

For the purpose of clarity, by BODY THETAN is meant a thetan who is stuck to another thetan or body but is not in control.

A THETAN is, of course, a Scientology word using the Greek theta which was the Greek symbol for thought or life. An individual being such as a man is a thetan, he is not a body and he does not think because he has a brain.

A CLUSTER is a group of body thetans crushed or held together by some mutual bad experience.

CHARACTER OF BODY THETANS
Body thetans are just Thetans. When you get rid of one he goes off and possibly squares around, picks up a body or admires daisies. He is in fact a sort of cleared Being. He cannot fail to eventually, if not at once, regain many abilities. Many have been asleep for the last 75,000,000 years. A body Thetan responds to any process any Thetan responds to.

Some Body Thetans are suppressive. A suppressive is out of valence in R6. He is in a valence in Incident I almost always.

One can't run a human being on these two incidents since human beings are composites and would not be able to run the lot. Aside from that, non-clears are way below awareness required to even find these Incidents.

Huge amounts of charge have already been removed from the case AND the body thetans by Clearing and OT I and OT II to say nothing of engrams and lower grades.

Awareness is proportional to the charge removed from the case.

Although a human is a composite being there is only one I (that is you) who runs things.

Body thetans just hold one back.

You will continue to be you. You, inside, can of course separate out body thetans and so solo auditing is the answer. How good do you have to be to run body thetans off? Well, if you didn't skip your grades, Clearing and OT II particularly, you should be able to command body thetans easily.

HAH! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4945742)

FAGS....

Wonder what special features.. (1)

SteveDude (559278) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945767)

..appear on the DVD. I love the Back to the Future trilogy as I think a lot of geeks due with all that hi tech equipment and such. Of course with the movie being so old I wonder what kind of stuff would appear on the DVD and I bet the quality is amazing.

Hello McFly!! (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4945777)


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First "Hello, McFly!" post !!

.

~~
Suck my balls! - Terrance and Phillip

I travelled back in time... (2, Funny)

Entropy248 (588290) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945780)

To make this first post mine...
Ha!

Re:I travelled back in time... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4945967)

Are you quoting a Back to the Future Valentine's Day card? That's literally the GAYEST thing I've ever heard. Holy crap.

Re:I travelled back in time... (4, Funny)

cHiphead (17854) | more than 11 years ago | (#4946014)

looks like u didnt travel back far enough

IN SOVIET RUSSIA (-1)

IN SOVIET RUSSIA (621411) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945785)

Back to the Future Trilogy (Widescreen) reviews you! (It's Monday, I guess /. likes Hollywood today)

Shut up, lamer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4946030)

You arent funny.

Cool (1)

avesti (592365) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945790)

I loved these movies when they came out. Of course I have not seen them in several years. ButI find movies that an entire family can watch and enjoy come few and far between these days.

With just a little effort... (2, Funny)

Damek (515688) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945793)

...we could all work together to make the world a better -- OOOH!!! SHINEY!!

Re:With just a little effort... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4945858)

Way OT...

I just finished reading all of the Hitchhiker books. Where does the "Oooh! Shiney!" bit come from? I was quite sure that it came from the Hitchhiker books, but if it did I must have missed it. What character, and in what book?

Re:With just a little effort... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4945907)

that isn't from the hitchhiker books

boycott the MPAA! Buy this DVD set!

With A Little Help From My Friends: +1, Patriotic (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4945952)


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Spelling nazi (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4945960)

That's "shiny [reference.com] ".

Man....memories (1)

sickboy_macosX (592550) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945794)

I remember the first time I saw Back to the Future, I wanted to be like Marty Mc Fly. and then I started using computers, and now my parents are scared. And My Wife is Scared for Life! Good Review by the way

I was going to mention the defects (1)

delorean (245987) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945798)

but the eds included it!

Good job... I for one will go ahead and wait for the better disks in Feb... though it burns me up. But, hey, I get to drive a Time Travel car everyday I want to! :-)

time machine (3, Funny)

pandrew (233890) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945799)

Great, now that the DVD's are out, maybe I can begin to convert my 93 Accord into a time machine!

Re:time machine (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4945921)

Only if you can get it to 88mph. Maybe on a downhill...

Re:time machine (1)

Moloch666 (574889) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945932)

Record your steps so I can do mine [dnsalias.com] as well.

Litte broken image there, the page isn't linked anymore.

Back to the future trilogy is great.... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4945802)

for me to POOP on.

first (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4945814)

post

I'm keeping my "defective" copy.... (4, Insightful)

rickthewizkid (536429) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945815)

... and possibly buying another. In a few years, the "defective" discs will probably be collectors items. It seems that is the case with laserdiscs or CEDs (RCA Select-a-vision [cedmagic.com] discs) etc.

Just my 88 miles-per-hour worth...
RickTheWizKid

Re:I'm keeping my "defective" copy.... (5, Funny)

sys$manager (25156) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945893)

I hope you're not a financial planner. I'd hate to see what you'd do for other investments.

You don't have a closet full of beanie babies in plastic bags, do you?

I predict.. (1, Redundant)

Anonvmous Coward (589068) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945817)

.. that this article will comprise mostly jokes about travelling back in time to fix an article on Slashdot or nerdy arguments over percieved inconsistencies in any of the movies.

Hopefully now that I've pointed that out, a bunch of moderators will be able to use their 'Redundant' button.

Re:I predict.. (1)

haedesch (247543) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945977)

don' t forget the: 'slashdot readers are hypocites cause they buy dvds and are against the MPAA!!!' - trolls

Nixing the Libyans (2)

cje (33931) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945819)

While this is not usually something of concern, there were TV edits made that removed "the Libyans" from the first movie, shortly after the 9-11 events.

I can believe that overly-nervous TV executives would want to cut this out, but I'm at a loss to actually figure out how they would do it. The Libyans are sort of a central plot point to the film (after all, they are the whole reason that Marty ends up in 1955 to begin with!) Has anybody seen this edit?

Re:Nixing the Libyans (0)

spanky1 (635767) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945850)

I'm sure all they did was dub over the spoken word "Lybians". Reminds me of Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure. The TV edits are so lame. Like when Bill & Ted hug and say "Fag", the TV edit says something stoopid like "Fool!"

Re:Nixing the Libyans (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4945876)

The didn't remove "the Libyans" as in the people in the Volkswagen bus chasing them.

They removed "the Libyans" as in what Doc yells when he sees them.

IIRC, they just jump over him yelling that and we are to infer from his reaction to seeing them that they are "bad" people. Notwithstanding they wear turbans and are dark-skinned.

Re:Nixing the Libyans (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4946005)

I wonder why they don't do similar edits and remove the Nazis from World War II movies. "Look, it's those damn *snip*ENEMIES!!!"

Re:Nixing the Libyans (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4946049)

we are to infer from his reaction to seeing them that they are "bad" people. Notwithstanding they wear turbans and are dark-skinned.

Like we needed much help deducing THAT one.

Noticeably misframed shots in the WS edition... (5, Informative)

antdude (79039) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945820)

From this story [dvdfile.com] :

"Back to the Future redux - 12:43am

Thinking about picking up that Back to the Future trilogy box set this week for a stocking stuffer? You may want to hold off on that. Amid numerous consumer complaints over noticeably misframed shots in the widescreen edition of Parts II and III of the trilogy, Universal Studios Home Video announced yesterday that they will be repressing the discs with corrected framing, and these repressed versions will be included in all future runs of the box set.

While the shots - some of which ruin crucial jokes and visual gags - may be relatively minor to some, what to do if you've already picked up the set and want the corrected versions? A Universal spokesperson has told us that consumers unhappy with the current version (widescreen only - the full frame edition is not affected) can call the Universal Studios Home Video Consumer Hotline at (888) 703-0010 to request an exchange. While repressed versions of discs 2 and 3 (disc 1 remains unaffected) won't be available until February, Universal will provide corrected versions to those who have already purchased the set. Consumers will need to send the discs back to Universal at their own expense. Stay tuned for any further updates as the story develops..."

Nothing like selling shoddy wares (2, Insightful)

freeweed (309734) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945978)

Rather disturbing, that Universal knows that pretty much all copies of II and III out there are defective (ok, widescreen only), yet just today I saw several hundred being offered for sale in one store alone.

Isn't this the sort of situation that product recalls are for (I mean beyond 'this meat will kill you')? Why would Universal knowingly allow their dealers to sell defective merchandise? Is the Xmas shopping mania just that strong that we couldn't possibly pull a known defective product? Instead, they'd rather everyone go to the time and expense of mailing these 2 discs back and forth in February.

It's worse than you think... (3, Interesting)

Dimensio (311070) | more than 11 years ago | (#4946016)

The movies have been available in regions 2 and 4 for months, and they have the same misframing problem there. People noticed it as soon as they did comparisons to the widescreen Laserdisc (which has a slightly less wide and incorrect aspect ratio, but at least the matting that is there is applied correctly), but Universal allowed the problem to slip into the R1 release and they didn't acknowledge any problem despite repeated inquiries until Wednesday.

E.T. modifications (5, Informative)

Zathrus (232140) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945822)

Unlike recent DVD releases of 80s classics (ie. the gun-to-walkie-talkie edits in E.T.)

You know that the ET DVDs have both the original, unedited version released in 1982 and the modified 2002 release on them, right?

No, I didn't think you did.

That's because... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4945956)

I DON'T GIVE A SHIT!!

Re:E.T. modifications (1)

notcreative (623238) | more than 11 years ago | (#4946045)

While we are pointing out things that no one cares about, he should have used "e.g." rather than "i.e."

News For Nerds? (-1, Troll)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945823)

Oh come on. This isn't even worthy of Slashdot, maybe any of the following, but not Back to the Future. What next Karate Kid?

Star Wars

Star Trek

Terminator

LoTR

Re:News For Nerds? (1)

MoreDruid (584251) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945919)

arren't you forrgetting somethink?

Matrix

Matrix Reloaded

Matrix Revolutions
I'll take those before _any_ Terminator movie, but YMMV

Re:News For Nerds? (2)

Torinaga-Sama (189890) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945920)

We are a more diverse group of individuals than you may think.

Most of us, I am sure, have movie intrests that stem beyond the 4 series you mentioned. Besides, have you seen the trash the first two have put out recently(rheotorical)?

Crispen Glover owns your soul.

Re:News For Nerds? (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 11 years ago | (#4946035)

We are a more diverse group of individuals than you may think.

Sure, but heck, this isn't www.imdb.com I'm old enough to have seen each of these movies in theaters and I've never considered them particularly stand-out sci-fi, more like Walter Mitty realized (i.e. dad's a geek, go back in time change things, dad's not a geek and there's a cool toyota in the garage with your name on it) Ok, maybe that appeals to some...

Re:News For Nerds? (2)

DeltaSigma (583342) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945933)

Why does Terminator get in while the Alien saga doesn't?

What with all the physics articles lately relating to small micron process using various organic materials, one would think the influence of Giger to be very important at a time like this.

His art, afterall, was usually based on a combination of the organic and the industrial.

I don't like your ambiguous list, I call for a poll!

Re:News For Nerds? (1)

tusixoh (561920) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945941)

apart from your post, i've never heard any geek or nerd speak badly of these films. being that Back To The Future is technically considered Sci-Fi, i think it definitely has it's place on /.

if for nothing else, just for the scene where marty haunts his father-to-be as a space alien named "darth vader" :)

Unfortunately misframed... (2, Informative)

Obiwan Kenobi (32807) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945824)

Universal, in an astounding display of audacity, is planning on leaving the BTTF's last two films mis-framed until February.


Check out the Home Theater Forum [hometheaterforum.com] for evidence.


Here is Universal's official response, as found on The Digital Bits [thedigitalbits.com] :


Thank you for your email. Universal Studios will exchange Back to the Future parts 2 and 3 for copies with the updated framing in late February 2003. You may send the DVDs back now or wait until February. Please send Back to the Future disks 2 and 3, without the case, and a letter with the following information: Name, Full Mailing Address, Daytime Phone Number, Reason for Return and Return Address. Send to:

Back to the Future DVD Returns
PO Box 224468
Dallas, Texas 75260

Thank you,
Universal Studios Customer Service

Those in Canada can call 866-532-2202.

As for me, I'm waiting until February to get a correct version of all three films. The fanboy who reviewed this got a bit carried away.

Re:Unfortunately misframed... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4945899)

Running OT III

When running OT III the solo auditor handles body thetans as he would any other PC, for the general idea is to run them standardly and not ARC break them. He does not scan through anything in order to find body thetans.

When a solo auditor can find no more body thetans he can attest, or run a pressure area down and handle as per his running instructions.

The pre-OT could be exterior and the Interiorization processes can be run in Review to help him through.

Here are three reasons why a pre-OT might have trouble whilst running BT's on Incident II -

(1) It is the wrong area;
(2) it is not the volcano of the BT being run;
(3) it is not an Incident II, but another incident of a
different date.

Check (1) and (2) if you are having any difficulty in running Incident II and handle by locating the correct area or finding the volcano of the BT being run. If it is not a II, simply check for the date and if different run it.

OT III Errors

Amongst OT III errors are "a BT run on Incident I fails to blow". There are three reasons:

(a) Auditor is trying to run a cluster with an Incident I. The right thing to do is date and get the character of the incident that made it a cluster and then run Incident I's on those left when it breaks up. Or get Dianetic auditing.

(b) There is an earlier Incident I on the same BT. Find it and run it. The BT has a chain of them all by himself.

(c) Another BT is copying the Incident I just run so it looks like it didn't blow. Failure to ever run Incident II can also cause a bog. Routine Dianetic auditing by a Dianetic HDG who is also on or above OT III using triple flows and LDN OT III also handles bogged OT III pre-OT's.

Cluster Formation - Cumulative

In doing a cluster one is likely to find it is made up of other earlier clusters. This looks like this. 1898 impact horse accident. When engram 1898 run on R3R, that part blows. No F/N occurs, TA remains up. Remainder will grind after the blow. Earlier portion dates as 93,000,000 years ago, electric shock. When run onR3R, that part blows, no F/N. TA remains up, will grind if run
further. Earliest portion dates as 72 trillion implant. When run onR3R, all blow, F/N.

A cluster or engram which is a cluster can repeatedly F/N as BT's blow. Dates as 778 million explosion. After run once or twice an F/N occurs as one BT blows. Run again to second F/N as two more BT's blow. Remainder blow with a wider F/N. The cluster has gone. This happens (repeating F/N) when picture persists and meter check reveals it is not a copy. It will be more BT's in same cluster. So above repeating F/N occurs when pre-OT is moved through it. Clusters are found by meter dating, listing for type of incident and run as an engram. Clusters can occur at Incident II and Incident I. They can also occur at 1 quadrillion, which is the

Clearing Course materials. They also occur at random dates for different reasons.

* * *
I have lately been C/Sing a number of failed OT cases and have found them all running well on solo now. The errors are made as follows:

(1) The solo auditor cannot audit, needs more training.
(2) Cases are not well prepared with Dianetics.
The remedy for all of these is to:

(a) Run the PC for at least a score or two of Dianetic items by R3R, done of course by a good HDG, (b) then do a GF 40.

And then repeat it until necessary auditing is complete. These two actions take care of the majority of difficult cases on OT III.

The real End Phenomena of OT III and OT IV is exterior with full perception. You can and should accomplish full stable exteriorization on doing the materials of III.

Further III remedies:

(3) High TA. This comes from not completing the Incidents I
and II on body thetans.(4) The solo auditor puts too wide an intention on the BT and
runs two or three when he is intending to run only one.(5) A cluster just won't break up. The remedy is a Dianetic
session listing for impacts or incidents that would cause a cluster and doing R3R. The principle of earlier similar holds good. When this is completed, the solo auditor is sent back to solo to clean up the BT's shaken loose and to continue with OT III.(6) Rudiments go out on BT's. The remedy of course is to
locate BT's who have out-ruds, put in the ruds and run Incident I, at which the BT should leave.(7) A theta-bopping meter sometimes puzzles a solo auditor on
OT III. This means a BT is trying to exteriorize and can't. The remedy is to complete the partially run Incident II or Incident I or in extreme cases put the ruds in on the hung up BT.(8) One-hand electrode giving wrong TA read baffling the solo
auditor with floating needles with a high TA. The remedy is to have two-hand electrodes handy and trim the trim knob so the one-hand electrode reads the same as two-hand electrodes.(9) A suppressive body thetan sometimes isn't auditable. The
remedy is to run Grades IV or V on him.(10) By far and large the corniest error and which has been
very prevalent is not knowing the materials of OT III or the content of Incident II or Incident I.

OT III is a vital grade. One fronts up to it and does it. When he is really done, the rewards of OT III and IV exceed his wildest dreams.

Rudiments Going Out on BT's

When the ruds go out on BT's during the session the solo auditor recognizes the following:

BT critical = withhold from auditor BT antagonistic = bypassed charge in session No TA = problem BT sad = ARC Break Soaring TA = Overrun or protest (also more than one BT being run in error or it's a cluster) Auditor tired = no sleep or incomplete Incident I's Auditor dope-off = bypassed F/N or not enough sleep Auditor no-interest = out ruds on BT's

A solo auditor who isn't sure what it is, but runs into trouble with a BT is smart to end off the session quickly, write down the full observation and get it to the C/S. The solo auditor who knows what he is looking at as per the above scale (and the C/S the C/S would give), handles it promptly.

BT critical = w/h = pull the withhold BT antagonistic = BPC = assess proper list (such as L1C) and handle No TA (or case gain) = problem = locate the problem and handle BT sad = ARC Break = locate and handle itsa E/S itsa Soaring TA = O/R or protest (also more than one BT being run in error or it's a cluster) = find which and handle (running more than the one intended comes from too wide an intention) Auditor tired = no sleep or incomplete Incident I's = check which it is and handle Auditor dope-off = lack of sleep or bypassed F/N = check on sleep or rehabilitate F/N Auditor no-interest = out-ruds on BT's = put in ruds

OT III Auditing

OT III pre-OT's got a reputation of being hard to run on Dianetics early on in Dianetic re-development. Only five reasons exist for this.

(1) A person that high on OT grades audits fast and a
comm-laggy Dianetic auditor can drive him up the wall.(2) Too quiet or too blurred TR 1.
(3) A tendency to evaluate instead of using TR 4.
(4) The numerousness of BT chains on the same item (the BT's
being separated now) making several chains on the same item, which if not all run separately leave the PC ARC Broken with the bypassed charge of unrun BT's.(5) The OT II who is still on OT III and has been on it a
while probably himself has no pictures and all the pictures he has are BT pictures.

The lower grades PC (before Clear) reacts as a composite Being, all on one chain, so to speak. He is separated into himself and the individual BT's and clusters of them when he gets to OT II, and so audits differently. He easily misowns the pictures thinking they are his. The big blowdowns you get on such a PC's item indicates several BT's have it in common. A solo III however will be found to have the same item on more than one BT in many cases.

The reason for low TA is unflat OT III phenomena. If a person has had a low TA in lower grades the keynote is to take it easy as auditor and C/S. This applies also to any auditing given on upper OT levels.

That a PC's TA goes below 2.0 is a certain indicator of unflat OT III. He's still got some. When a person cannot handle OT III he is too much at effect. He cannot project his intention. And so he can't run OT III. The new OT I and OT II, particularly OT II, are designed to increase a PC's ability to project his intention to others. If he can't, they overwhelm him and you get low TA or "none on III". Harsh, overbearing auditing or life incidents have to occur, apparently, to drive the TA down.

Overts, disagreements expressed as obsessive agreement and other lower level matters are at the bottom of this in any Being.

But any case of low TA I have ever found has been:

(1) Overwhelmed in life;
(2) unable to project intention;
(3) physically inactive;
(4) loaded with BT's;
(5) tends to go out of valence easily.
In all this number (4) is the important point.

Endless OT III and low TA are alike - inability to project intention, PC at effect. Remedy by lightly causing PC to come to cause, to be able to project his intention and thus flatten OT III. That will complete and finish off low TA.

Re:Unfortunately misframed... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4945927)

Oh, give me a break. Have you ever worked on DVDs? Even assuming that the actual fix doesn't take too long (and I have to say that I'm not competent to judge that), they still have to completely QC two new DVDs, twice or three times as carefully as before, because nothing's more embarrassing than to replace defective discs with defective discs. Then they have to have a bazillion of them pressed, because only slightly behind in embarrassment is running out of replacements for a known-defective product. And if you're lucky, they'll change the packaging so that people can tell the difference between the broken and fixed sets, which takes even more time...

Re:Unfortunately misframed... (2)

Dimensio (311070) | more than 11 years ago | (#4946028)

And if Universal had bothered listening to people four months ago when the misframed release hit Australia, they could have avoided quite a bit of this problem.

Re:Unfortunately misframed... (1)

elmegil (12001) | more than 11 years ago | (#4946048)

The fanboy who reviewed this got a bit carried away.

Or didn't watch the widescreen versions.

Proof: (2)

Aggrazel (13616) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945827)

I traveled back in the future to post this comment [slashdot.org] just today, knowing full well a Back to the Future post was on the way!

I still want my hoverboard. And my regenerated spleen. Never know when having an extra spleen could come in handy.

Heavy! (2)

Scrameustache (459504) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945834)

ARGH!
Must...wait...after...xmas....maybe...paren ts...hi p enough...to get it for me...

And when I do get 'em, I can go into ubergeek mode and start showing people the resseblance between it and Buckaroo Banzai! : )


Joy

Re:Heavy! (1)

delorean (245987) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945891)

I remember Buckaroo Banzai. What resemblance?

Back to the Future THE RIDE (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4945835)

Anyone ever been on 'Back to the Future: The Ride' [universalstudios.com] at Universal Studios?

Probably the most overrated peice of crap I've ever been on...

Gave me a headache. Rough! It sucks. SUCKS!

I hate fucking Christopher Lloyd [starseeker.com] . He's a faggot fucker. Why did he ever make that movie Baby Geniuses [all-reviews.com] ?

It had Kim Catrall [geocities.com] in it, thank God, so I just sat there holding my balls, patiently waiting for her to appear on screen.

Baby Geniuses (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4946003)

Holy Living Fuck, that movie sucked ass. I would have aborted those little fuckers.

Wow (1, Troll)

peterpi (585134) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945837)

Ooh great, now you too can see films at least ten years old in the comfort of your own home!

Gun edit in ET (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4945842)

is explained here [spielbergfilms.com]

This isn't anything new (2)

Ezubaric (464724) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945843)

> answer numerous questions about the movies,
> including time travel

We knew this all along. The flux capacitor. It's what make time travel possible!

Ads ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4945855)


Is it just me or does this this "story" sound more like a press release, rather than "news" ?

Is this a new ad system on /. ?

Re:Ads ? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4945870)

Incident II is over 36 days long. Capture on other planets was weeks or months before the implant. Those on Teegeeack (Earth) were just blown up except for Loyal Officers who were (shortly before the explosion on Earth) rounded up.

Do not scan through the duration of 36 days. The volcanic explosion on Earth to the point where "the pilot" says he is mocking it up is only a few days.

Sequence of Incident II for thetans on ANOTHER planet -

(1) Capture (being shot),
(2) freezing,
(3) transport to Teegeeack (sometimes via a relay point),
(4) being placed near a volcano,
(5) beginning implant up to "the pilot",
(6) various picture sequences,
(7) the 7s and C.C. and OT II materials,
(8) 36 days of picture implants which give a vast array of
materials and three explanations for the bombing,(9) transport to Hawaii or Las Palmas for packaging up into
clusters.

The pictures contain God, the Devil, angels, space opera, theatres, helicopters, a constant spinning, a spinning dancer, trains and various scenes very like modern England. You name it, it's in this implant we call in its entirety "R6".

If one was a Loyal Officer on Teegeeack, the sequence was(1) capture (2) number 5 above on. If one was a citizen of Teegeeack
there was only number 5 on.

The material given at the various "volcanoes" was no longer or shorter, but dovetailed into the same sequence of pictures. We have the whole text but it is needless.

People who feel dizzy have gotten into the spinning part.

* * *
Incident I occurred about 4 quadrillion years ago plus or minus. It is very much earlier than Incident II which occurred only75 million years ago (a bit less).

Incident II is only peculiar and general on this planet and nearby stars, whereas Incident I is to be found on all thetans.

The Basic on BT's

I've isolated a way a thetan comes to be stuck to another thetan. This gives the basis of clusters and having BT's.

A thetan collides with another. That one makes a picture of being collided with. Other BT's get stuck to the picture.

The moment of actual contact of thetans was brief but the picture (containing a stop or withdraw) tends to be permanent.

Thetans then get the idea they can be permanently stuck as they see pictures of it happening.

Thus we get the concept of a "black theta body". This would be actual BT's stuck to a thetan plus pictures of BT's stuck to a thetan.

An answer to all this is to find the first picture a thetan made of contacting another thetan.

If not at once available the earliest instance of a thetan contacting (colliding, running into, attacking) another thetan could be achieved by R3R on being suddenly hit with clusters or strange beings.

The idea is to find and run the "first picture" one made of another thetan.

This opens another way to "blow off" BT's - run R3R on a BT to the first picture the BT ever made of another thetan.

Instructions

Locate by meter read or an area of pressure, a body thetan or group (cluster). Run Incident II. If the BT does not blow off or the group break up and blow, then run Incident I on individual BT's. Each will blow off with an F/N.

When you can find no more on which to run Incident I's, once more locate a pressure area or by meter read on looking over body run another Incident II. Then Incident I's on any.

Incident II made clusters of BT's. Severe impacts and experiences ALSO make clusters. (See the data called "Milazzo" in this pack.) Those who do not leave on running the impact or its chain will leave when Incident I is run on them.

Incident II sometimes forms gigantic clusters. In such there is a leader, an alternate leader and several (eight to eighteen) more. These were all implanted in different volcanic areas with fractions of the main 36 day implant and then "packaged" in Las Palmas or Hawaii. This if you run Incident II as far as "the pilot" it blows up or loosens up and those who don't go away can be run on Incident I's.

Do not speak your commands. Just "intend" them. A BT controls easily. BT's can be ARC broken by rough or careless auditing. You can also run an Incident II on a BT and he doesn't blow, but you accidentally run in Incident I on another one and leave the first still there. The remedy is to run Incident I's on anything you find.

A very SP BT can be run on grades and Power and should then respond to Incident II and Incident I.

After a BT leaves, some other BT may copy him or the incident just run.

If you have found a cluster (pressure area) that does not respond or disintegrate to Incident II running, get Dianetic auditing, listing "what impact or incident would cause a cluster?" and R3R on the items found. Then do more Incident I's to clean up the strays with solo. This is a refined "Milazzo".

There are hundreds of BT's you will find.

If you find none, get audited on Dianetics in general and as above (impact list), and if you still find none, get a review GF40 and handle all items, then go back to solo.

If you find only one or two, get the Dianetic impact list done.

All "none on OTIII" cases were later found loaded.

Do Incident II and Incident I's on what you can find to begin with. You will do fine. Good hunting.

Certain "buttons" have to be gotten in where running a thetan through incidents. The EFFORT TO STOP the motion hangs up the action and gives a stuck picture. One gets the EFFORT TO STOP off and the scene races through.

The EFFORT TO WITHDRAW is important also and hangs up the action and creates a vacuum.

RUSH, PROTEST, NOT-IS, SUPPRESS are also present.

These were actions - thoughts - the thetan had during the incident and are picked up only when the incident doesn't run well. Sometimes two "buttons" such as STOP and WITHDRAW are in combination.

Thetans in the body may obsessively copy the pictures of other thetans. Therefore you can find it seems that the thetan who just left is still there because there is a picture left. Spot the fact that someone else copied it and it usually goes.

If you do an S & D on a body thetan be sure you give the right item to the right thetan.

Cross Auditing

When one runs Incident I out of one thetan and then Incident II out of another (thinking it was the first one) one can get a partially run body thetan who won't blow, but who may start to go on through the whole of R6 automatically (since the basic-basic Incident I is not run, yet Incident II is). Once can get quite ill doing this as the illness in R6 can turn on.

One can also "feel no wish to audit". All "no desire to audit" is some large blunder on a case.

The way you can run Incident I out of one thetan and Incident II out of another is rather easy. One fails to notice the first one blow on having Incident I run and runs Incident II on another.

* * *
As a matter of data, the only trouble in a III OT run is running an Incident I on one thetan and an Incident II on another, thinking it was the first one. A pre-OT can freewheel into R6 if you run only an Incident II. You can stop a freewheel at once by running Incident I off the same thetan you ran the Incident II on that started a freewheel.

Freewheel means that the PC goes on automatic continuous run. Incident II is R6 75,000,000 years ago. Incident I is about 4 quadrillion years ago. Both, all thetans on this planet and 21 nearby stars have in common. All thetans in the universe have Incident I. Only those in this old Confederation have Incident II and R6. All C.C. and OT II materials are in R6 75,000,000 years ago. These are followed by 36 days worth of motion pictures - God, Devil, space opera, trains, cars, helicopters, crashes, stage etc. This R6 is 75,000,000 years ago, and this planet and Confederation.

If the volcano bit is run as per III directions but the Incident I is not run on the same thetan, R6 begins to run off on automatic, the Being can't sleep for days, the body dies. That's the way it was designed.

Overrun on III

The only way you can get a read on "Overrun on III" is to have accidentally run Incident I out, and then later run it out again on the same thetan or make a similar blunder. Example: One flattens Incident I by several passes on a body thetan. This body thetan for some reason (Mostly because Incident II was then not run) does not fly off. Then, not noticing, one again finds the same thetan and once more seeks to run Incident I. One then gets, in answer to the question "Overrun on III?" a lot of reads and overrun phenomena.

The remedy is to find out WHO was overrun and get the charge off by that action.

One then runs Incident II on that thetan or in any event, by getting off the charge of "overrun", letting the thetan depart.

Just because one's meter reads "Overrun on III" is no reason to attest. Find out who was. It's almost always a body thetan.

* * *
A BT can be overrun past erasure. This fact sometimes causes a solo auditor to believe OT III is overrun.

If he asks "Is OT III overrun?" he may get a read and blowdown. This is actually usually just one BT or cluster that is overrun. The remedy is discovering and indicating the point of overrun. And carry on with OT III.

I won't be buying it (-1, Flamebait)

Stanley Feinbaum (622232) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945868)

I feel I do not need to be supporting the MPAA which is intent on removing our rights to fair use of media products.

I feel you should all do the same if you care about your rights at all.

plot holes (4, Informative)

Satai (111172) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945873)

Well, I am a card carrying member of the BTTF fan club, and I remember from one of the four magazine issues I recieved a Q&A section, where the magazine was given the question of why did the future family exist, when Marty and Jennifer were brought forward -- the future they traveled to should have been a future where they disappeared in 1985. The answer was a blunt "we messed up," with an explanation that the future HAD to exist, because the ending of the first movie had the statement "Something's gotta be done about your kids!" and they couldn't very well go back on that, eh?

Re:plot holes (1)

Rude Turnip (49495) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945974)

You know, I'm really busy at work today, but I felt compelled to reply to this. Sure, they disappeared in 1985, but if they have future selves living in the future with kids and all, that obviously means that they came back to the present (1985) eventually. I don't see any holes in the plot here...

Re:plot holes (2)

FleshWound (320838) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945982)

I'm finding that just a bit hard to believe. It's pretty obvious that as long as they actually went back to the time they came from, that they never would have "disappeared," so no such event would have occurred.

Re:plot holes (5, Informative)

SomeoneGotMyNick (200685) | more than 11 years ago | (#4946050)

They didn't mess up....

In order for them to exist in the future, they would have eventually needed to make it back somewhere between 1985 and 2015. Preferably no later than 1995 in order to have time to have kids that would be as old as they were in the future. They had a whole 10 year window to return to. Having an existence in that particular future proves that they eventually made it back to their proper time.

An analogous example would be when Bill and Ted told themselves to remind themselves to leave the keys, tape player, and garbage can in the appropriate spots so things could have gone the way they did (what a paradox if they failed, though)

On the incorret matting of disc 2 and 3 (0, Redundant)

Dystopium (255143) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945878)

According to Dvdfile [dvdfile.com]

"A Universal spokesperson has told us that consumers unhappy with the current version (widescreen only - the full frame edition is not affected) can call the Universal Studios Home Video Consumer Hotline at (888) 703-0010 to request an exchange. While repressed versions of discs 2 and 3 (disc 1 remains unaffected) won't be available until February, Universal will provide corrected versions to those who have already purchased the set. Consumers will need to send the discs back to Universal at their own expense. "

Great thing about DVD (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4945882)

Is that it's easy to skip past the parts in part two that you just saw in part one.

Re:Great thing about DVD (1)

AKnightCowboy (608632) | more than 11 years ago | (#4946044)

Is that it's easy to skip past the parts in part two that you just saw in part one.

Not to mention you can just skip past that whole third movie altogether since it's irrelevent to the whole story. It's like somebody decided they needed to turn a two part series into a trilogy for no apparent reason so they tacked on some stupid story about traveling back to the old west. Clearly it was the worst of the three and should never have been made. I fear the same thing will happen with the last Matrix movie. Usually when they make two movies at once and release them so close together the last one sucks.

Slackers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4945902)

Looks like the Slashdot Slackers are at it again.

They might be asleep at the wheel, but I am not:

- - Yahoo Buys Search-Software Maker Inktomi - -

News at 11

Shamelessly stolen from The Onion: (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4945908)

We, as a nation, have suffered. Wounded and confused, we wonder
whether life will ever be the same again. But for all our pain, we can
heal, if each one of us pitches in. We all have a part to play,
whether donating blood, contributing to relief charities, or writing
high-quality fan fiction to help a grieving nation forget its troubles
for just a little while.

Such is the burden I have assumed.

Since 1997, through good times and bad, I have been there,
creating rousing tales of events that did not actually take place in
the official Back To The Future universe but could have. And now, in
this time of crisis, I humbly offer these tales to the American people
to help soothe their jangled nerves.

Certainly, I am neither the most prolific nor the most acclaimed
of America's many Back To The Future fanfic authors. But I like to
think that my work is among the most heartfelt, the most human. Take
my recently self-published fanfic novella Think, McFly, in which Marty
briefly becomes trapped in 1975 Hill Valley.

Let's not dwell on, for the purposes of this brief discussion,
my historically accurate portrayal of the era, right down to the TV
blaring All In The Family (a sly allusion to the whole theme of the
film series). My depiction of Marty as he discovers yet another layer
of the intertwined histories of his hometown and family surely
approaches the depth of Robert Zemeckis' own work. In one scene, I
have Marty encounter his 7-year-old self and, along with the reader,
discover why being called a "chicken" has become such a personal
curse. Who else in the online fanfic-writing community has taken such
a bold leap of imagination while remaining completely true to the
spirit of the film series? Can you name even one? I thought not.

But I am not here to cast aspersions on other BTTF fanfic
authors. (Not even the wildly overrated Marion Gehl.) Now is the time
for Americans to stand tall and united in the face of an ultimate
evil, not to nitpick about who obviously doesn't understand what the
films are even about. And it certainly isn't the time to actually dare
to claim that Claudia Wells was a better Jennifer than Elisabeth Shue.
But, then, it never is. (She didn't do anything!)

But I digress. Back To The Future is a timeless story of
universal human experiences, like the quest for self-knowledge,
overcoming adversity, and going to the school dance with your mother.
It is this spirit I seek to honor and uplift through my works.

Consider my upcoming 1920s adventure, tentatively titled
Density. In it, Marty and Doc find themselves in the year 1925, only
to meet Marty's grandfather, Cyrus McFly, operating a "speakeasy" out
of a familiar-looking beverage hall in downtown Hill Valley. The naïve
young Marty romances a pretty young flapper who turns out to be his
own grandmother. As if that weren't enough, to ensure the proper flow
of time, he must mix things up with the Hill Valley crime syndicate,
led by Bart Tannen, the eventual father of Biff! Particularly deft is
my passing mention of a congenital heart defect in Bart, which helps
foreshadow why Biff is raised by his grandmother in the '50s.

Still hurting? The weary and dispirited among us can turn to
Biffco, a recently completed novella that reveals more tantalizing
details about the powerful alternate version of Biff that appears in
the middle of BTTF2. I don't want to give away the ending, but let's
just say that the age-old conundrum of how the elderly Biff
encountered his younger self without creating a time paradox will
finally be answered.

These are merely one man's meager efforts, to be sure. Such
fanciful tales are far less than is needed to salve the wounds of
Sept. 11. But, hopefully, they're enough to assure America that better
days lie ahead. Better days and even better Back To The Future fanfic.
Specifically, my nearly completed masterwork: It's an ambitious,
never-before-attempted Back To The Future/Star Trek crossover titled
Trek To The Future.

Operating on the premise that Hill Valley is a suburb of San
Francisco, my magnum opus takes the events of Star Trek IV: The Voyage
Home and throws Marty, Doc, and Jennifer into the mix. While Kirk and
crew stumble around the year 1986, attempting to save two humpback
whales before returning to the 23rd century, Doc and Marty hover about
the fringes, "helping" where necessary and borrowing Starfleet
technology in myriad ingenious ways. It may well be my finest hour as
a fanfic writer when Doc modifies a phaser to generate the necessary
1.21 gigawatts (I refuse to use the unscientific and meaningless
"jigowatts") of power for the DeLorean.

Trek To The Future's coda, in which Bryce McFly, the
24th-century descendant of Marty, is a skittish Starfleet Academy
cadet menaced by half-Klingon Ba'Qa Tannen, will surely represent a
high-water mark of American fan fiction. And the throwaway gag about
Picard being descended from Principal Strickland will be masterfully
rendered.

No, these humble offerings don't match the healing power of,
say, an all-frills DVD box set of the trilogy (we're still waiting,
Universal!), but it's important that each of us does what he or she
can.

Sadly, the flux-capacitor technology masterminded by Dr. Emmet
Brown remains a fantasy. As such, we cannot go back in time and change
the terrible events of Sept. 11. But we can draw strength by drawing
close to one another and holding fast to the faith that tomorrow will
be a brighter day. And also by reading my Back To The Future fan
fiction. My next story should be up on the site as soon as my renewal
money order to Dreamhost clears.

Among the only drawbacks I noticed... (1)

mcmonkey (96054) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945916)

Were the last two movies.

The original BTTF was good entertainment, but 2 and 3 were complete stinkers. If memory serves, both sequels were filmed at the same time or back-to-back. Which does not leave me optimistic for the Matrix sequals.

(LOTR isn't in the same category, as they aren't sequals, just a story told in three movies.)

Leah Tompson (0, Offtopic)

roccothegreat (578663) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945923)

I cant wait to see the making of Leah Tompson's huge HOOTERS in the second Movie. "Mom . . . your so . . . BIG!", said Marty McFly.

/.ers guilty admission (3, Funny)

teamhasnoi (554944) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945924)

You would have slept with your mom, if your mom was Lea Thomson.

Dirty birds...

Re:/.ers guilty admission (2)

CaffeineAddict2001 (518485) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945964)

I dunno...

You could rationalize it as:
Well, she's not really my mom, she barely even knows my would-be dad exists yet.

But then you come to the horrifying conclusion that this consumation would probably make it so you would no longer exist.

Either that or make you your own father. *cringe*

Re:/.ers guilty admission (1)

Gomer Pyle (566981) | more than 11 years ago | (#4946022)

Actually, there's some interesting comments about how the filmmakers and actors delt with the "incest" angle of the film.

Must... Try... To... Give... A... Shit... (0, Troll)

schwatoo (521485) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945926)

Back to the Future? Please. Who cares?

Incident I (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4945929)

It does not matter whether or not you ran Incident I and II on self. The End Phenomena of III is getting rid of all body thetans. This does not necessarily include self. If you overrun III it will be by trying to get rid of more body thetans than there were or by then, having got rid of the others, starting in on self. So III is complete for purposes of overrun as above. If you have not done Incident I and II on self when above is achieved, attest completion and then do I and II on self.

EP's: No BT's left = OT III, Exterior = OT IV

List of Volcanoes

There were two zones of assembly after the thetan was implanted. Thetans of volcanoes in Asia and the Pacific were taken to Hawaii. Thetans of Atlantic areas were taken to Las Palmas.

Asia and the Pacific: North Japan Mt. Shasta South Japan San Gorgornio Krakajawia Indonesia Mount Washington Philippines Mount Ranier Himalayas Mount Hood (Hawaii) Andes

Atlantic: Tangier (Las Palmas) St. Helena Canada Kolomonjero

(Spelling not guaranteed) (List may be incomplete)

Incident II: 75,000,000 years ago on this planet. Sometimes capture was on another planet and explosion on this planet, then called Teegeeack. Locate area of explosion. Pictures of explosion follow it. Get original explosion. Effort to stop usually present.

H-BOMB DROPPED ON VOLCANO
EXPLOSION
TERRIFIC WINDS
THETAN CARRIED OVER PEAK
ELECTRONIC RIBBON CAME UP
HE STUCK TO IT
IT WAS THEN PULLED DOWN AND HE WAS (AS PART OF A GROUP)
IMPLANTED WITH R6
PICTURE OF PILOT SAYING HE IS MOCKING IT UP
(R6 materials follow, then days of pictures of God, Devil, etc.)

(Thetan usually cognites on pilot or before (or on first incident) and leaves.)

Incident I: Occurs at start of track (4 quadrillion years ago).

LOUD SNAP
WAVES OF LIGHT
CHARIOT COMES OUT, TURNS RIGHT AND LEFT
CHERUB COMES OUT
BLOWS HORN, COMES CLOSE
SHATTERING SERIES OF SNAPS
CHERUB FADES BACK (RETREATS)
BLACKNESS DUMPED ON THETAN
Effort to stop must be gotten off (sometimes to hurry). Run as an engram.

THE BB [Basic-Basic] GPMs

This is a series of 5 GPMs, all the same pattern occurring about trillions 214th Power years ago.

Run the two lines all as one line, not as separate items for each number.

The explosions occur "inside one's head" or, that is to say, where the Thetan is.

FOREIGN LANGUAGE CAUTION
When a student in the course does not have English as his native tongue, or as language changes through the years, or when the Clearing course is translated into another language.

The greatest care must be used to establish the exact meaning or equivalent words. The most precise meaning is required and off shades will prevent erasure with much upset.

Such a student or translator must use a Meter to obtain the translated word and establish its correctness. It will, of course, be the most *lasting* read which lasts after all other versions have ceased to read.

Ordinarily when you have the right equivalent, wrong versions will not read.

Sometimes when you have discarded the right one you have to regain it by finding one which reacts to "suppress" or "challenge." Only the right version reacts to these.

It would be well to check all the key words of a GPM for the correct version of non-English words before attempting to actually run it.

One should rewrite the entire GPM or pattern in the native tongue one uses. Don't attempt sight translation.

[ Note: for brevity in uploading, this has been condensed to one set of commands. In the original, they were written out for EACH endword, a total of79 handwritten pages.

Each set of 26 items is run through on each endword; 1-26 for endword 1, then 1-26 on endword 2, etc. More instructions after the command set.

The endwords are: 1. Self 2. Mind 3. Body 4. Spirit 5. Head 6. Memory 7. Mass 8. Thought 9. Universe 10. Belief 11. People 12. Intention 13. Society 14. Custom 15. Government 16. Concept 17. Religion 18. Computation 19. System 20. Reason 21. Health 22. Logic 23. Poison 24. Secret 25. Interior 26. Amnesia end of editor's comments]

After the last endword, there is a SMASH!

Fuzzy DVD printing (1)

ddkilzer (79953) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945934)

Has anyone else noticed that the images on the DVDs themselves for Parts I and II are really fuzzy? I hope Universal corrects that by Feb 2003 as well.

Busted DVDs (1, Flamebait)

kitzilla (266382) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945943)

Apparently Universal expects us to go back to the Future to get those replacement DVDs.

No guarantee of success (1)

Wireless Joe (604314) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945947)

The Back to the Future trilogy has probably been one of the most highly anticipated DVD releases, mainly due to the age and enduring popularity...

Age and enduring popularity are no guarantee long-term of success; just ask Nora Bayes [artistdirect.com] . The most popular vaudeville entertainer for the first quarter of last century. Anyone heard of her now?

Maybe it was the transfer quality that made people forget.

(Thank you for enduring this attempt at humor).

What BTTF is really about (5, Funny)

fleener (140714) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945951)

Anyone with an oedipal complex [reference.com] knows what the triology was really about. How many times did we see Marty in bed with his hot mother (or hot maternal kin) next to him?

Great Scots! (1)

Doomrat (615771) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945958)

Great Scots!

There, now nobody else has to do it.

Re:Great Scots! (1)

phorm (591458) | more than 11 years ago | (#4946041)

I'm sure the people of Scotland were overjoyed.... I'm fairly sure the term is "Great Scot" though.

While on the topic, anyone know the origin of this term?

Sleepwalking (2, Insightful)

dcuny (613699) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945968)

I recall reading a review of the second film, where the reviewer wrote that it looked like Michael J. Fox sleepwalked through it. And, in fact, he may have - I think he was still shooting a sitcom at the same time. But apparently Parkinson's was starting to set in as well.

Anyhoo, I missed the second film, and the third got such bad reviews that I didn't even bother trying to go.

Still, my hat's off to anyone who can work a day job, a night job, and battle a degenerative nerve disease.

And "Mister Fusion" was inspired.

What do you mean, rambling? This is Slashdot!

ehrr.. tell me again.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4945972)

what does the word NEWS mean? NEWS is a DVD set that has been around for half a year or so now? or are you americans actually getting a movie LATER than us europeans now? Nah , i suppose its the usual slashdot editors hey-this-article-looks-nice-lets-not-check-a-thing -and-post-it-straight-away-because-we-are-too-busy -bashing-microsoft-to-do-any-real-work ?

Here's Some Real News: War (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4945976)

Casualties of an 'Undeclared War'
Civilians Killed and Injured as U.S. Airstrikes Escalate in Southern Iraq

By Peter Baker
Washington Post Foreign Service
Sunday, December 22, 2002; Page A01

BASRA, Iraq -- She flinches just a bit when the air raid siren comes on. Not
because it is unusual, but because it is not. And because it reminds her of that
day just a few weeks ago.

The sirens sound most every day, once, twice, sometimes more. They are
followed by the sound of jet planes soaring overhead. Then the soft puffs of
antiaircraft fire off in the distance.

What Nahla Mohammed remembers from that day, however, is not the sirens or
the jet planes, but running into her son on the street just after she finished
shopping for supper. He asked what she would fix, she recalled. Meat, vegetables
and soup, she answered. He headed off, anticipating the family meal.

Ten minutes later, according to a cousin who was there, a powerful blast
slammed him to the ground as metal shards sliced through his body. Mohammed
Sharif Reda, a 23-year-old mechanic married just two months and planning to
build a house for his family, was among four people who Iraqi officials said were
killed Dec. 1 in what they call an "undeclared war" being waged here in southern
Iraq.

While U.S. troops flow into the Persian Gulf region in preparation for a possible
invasion of Iraq, U.S. and British warplanes fire regularly on what the Pentagon
describes as military targets. U.S. officials say the bombings and missile attacks
are responses to Iraqi challenges to enforcement of the southern "no-fly" zone in
place since 1991 -- painting aircraft with air defense radars or shooting at them.
But the pace of the attacks has quickened demonstrably in recent months and
the Pentagon has broadened its targets to a wide array of command and
communications facilities in what analysts see as an effort to weaken Iraq's
defenses.

The attack on Dec. 1 destroyed a pair of large vehicles parked in an oil company
courtyard in the center of Basra, the country's second-largest city, located near
the Kuwaiti border. U.S. military spokesmen said they hit an air defense facility,
not an oil company, and in any case never deliberately attack civilian targets. But
something obliterated the vehicles here and everyone questioned believes it was
the Americans.

"Every day, every day, all the time. Why?" cried Reda's widow, Najila, 25, at the
family home around the corner from the Museum of the Martyrs of Hostile
Persian Shooting. "I ask you: Why is America bombing?"

Through the first four months of the year, U.S. and British forces struck Iraqi
sites in the northern and southern no-fly zones just six times, while in the past
four months they have launched about four dozen air raids. So far in December,
the U.S. military has reported nine strikes around southern cities such as Kut,
Nasiriyah, Amarah and Basra, including one here on Friday.

Iraqi officials complain that U.S. and British aircraft violated their airspace for
patrols 1,141 times between Nov. 9 and Dec. 6. In response, Iraqi antiaircraft
batteries have fired at U.S. and British planes more than 470 times this year,
according to a Pentagon count, although the Iraqis have never succeeded in
shooting one down.

The no-fly zones were imposed to protect a Kurdish enclave in the north and
rebellious Shiite Muslims in the south from possible attack by President Saddam
Hussein's aircraft. While Iraq and several major powers do not recognize the
legitimacy of the zones, they have become an inescapable fact of life here.

"Not many people realize that a war has been going on for the last several years
in the no-fly zone," said Gen. Amir Saadi, a top Hussein adviser. "The very people
that Britain and the United States claim to be protecting, they're killing them,
maiming them, depriving them of their normal livelihood and also destroying the
infrastructure which is there to serve them."

The Pentagon disputes that and includes a statement at the end of each
announcement of another raid: "Coalition aircraft never target civilian
populations or infrastructure and go to painstaking lengths to avoid injury to
civilians and damage to civilian facilities."

Until recently, U.S. and British warplanes responding to threats from Iraqi forces
limited their strikes to gun emplacements, radar facilities and other sites involved
in trying to hit them. But Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld in August
ordered his commanders to widen the target list to include more communications
centers, command buildings and fiber-optic links.

The more strategic targeting led U.S. forces to strike the Tallil air base, the air
defense sector headquarters about 160 miles southeast of Baghdad, a dozen
times this fall. With hardened revetments for aircraft, surface-to-air missiles and
two major runways, Tallil protects the southern approach to the capital and was
a major target during the 1991 Persian Gulf War.

In September, U.S. planes also hit radars at a remote military airfield 240 miles
west of Baghdad, far from most antiaircraft fire, in a move that analysts
speculated could be intended to open a corridor for Special Forces helicopters to
enter the western desert undetected.

The campaign in the south was recently expanded to include propaganda
warfare as well. Aircraft dropped 480,000 leaflets at six locations in southern Iraq
last week, the seventh time they have conducted such drops in the past three
months, according to military officials. The leaflets, distributed in areas where
coalition planes recently struck, warned Iraqis against repairing fiber-optic cables
and said rebuilding defensive facilities would put their lives in danger.

The leaflets also directed Iraqis to a radio frequency where they could listen to
U.S. broadcasts now beamed into the country for several hours a day by military
aircraft as they patrol the no-fly zone.

While the zones were established to shield Iraqis from their leader, they have
served to embitter at least some of the people, and government officials assert
that they even solidify support for Hussein. "When it gets worse and worse, the
people will be closer to the leadership," said Lt. Gen. Hadi Abdul Reda, head of
civil defense in Basra. "They make me more eager to face the Americans."

"We hate them," said Mesa Ali, 25, a mother of two young boys who lives across
the street from the site of the Dec. 1 bombing. The blast shattered her front
window, covering her 18-month-old son with broken glass. "They want to get the
oil and make us slaves."

"It's a crime," said Ali Abid Hamid, 31, who works at a nearby cement company
and helped his cousin get to a hospital to treat a slashed throat after the
explosion. "There is no reason to bomb civilians. They want to make problems."

It remains unclear how many civilians have actually been hurt or killed by the
recent U.S. and British bombing. Even by Iraqi reports, most targets seem to be
military facilities and government officials decline to take journalists there.

The Dec. 1 episode, however, clearly left noncombatants dead and injured,
according to interviews with survivors, relatives, witnesses and doctors. The U.S.
military reported dropping 23 precision weapons from 13 aircraft in southern
Iraq that day in retaliation for antiaircraft fire at warplanes patrolling the
northern no-fly zone two days earlier, the first time they had struck in the south
for an incident in the north.

The U.S. military said it hit unspecified air defense targets near Basra and Kut,
but not an oil installation. Witnesses and survivors, though, said two explosions
erupted in the yard of the state-run Southern Oil Co. in the center of Basra
between 10 and 11 a.m., about the time U.S. warplanes were reported to be
striking. Iraqi officials said four people were killed and 27 injured.

U.S. officials in the past have accused Hussein of positioning mobile air defense
units in civilian locations in an effort to prevent them from being destroyed or to
draw enemy fire that would kill innocents, thus creating a propaganda victory for
Iraq. From the street, about 50 yards away, it appeared clear that at least two
large vehicles were demolished by the explosions at Southern Oil. But it was
impossible to determine whether they were civilian trucks or mobile missile
launchers or radars.

Iraqi officials would not allow an American reporter inside the compound to
examine the site.

What was clear was that people such as Watheka Raheem Feyad were in the
wrong place at the wrong time. Feyad, 25, a clerk at Southern Oil, had just
returned from vacation and was walking between buildings when she was
suddenly blown off her feet.

"I felt like I was being sucked up into the air, two to three meters up," she said.
"I didn't know if it was a rocket or a missile or a bomb. I didn't know what was
the matter. I was afraid and shocked. The noise was very, very loud and I lost
feeling in my legs. I closed my eyes because I was so scared."

Two colleagues dragged her away, she said, and she later woke up in the
hospital. Her brother, Ali Raheem Feyad, 38, raced to the hospital at 100 mph
when he heard the news and was initially told that she was dead. She was not,
but she suffered a head injury and multiple fractures of her leg, which is now in
a metal splint, and still has shrapnel in her body. She takes six types of drugs,
faces several more operations and will need at least a year before she can walk
again, according to her doctor.

Mohammed Sharif Reda was not so lucky. Walking outside the gate, he and his
cousin were caught in the blast, family members said. His relatives were already
angry at Americans, blaming his uncle's death from cancer in March on depleted
uranium used in some U.S. weapons in the area.

"They are killing people," Nahla Mohammed, 49, who has lost her son and
brother, said, occasionally succumbing to tears as she talked. "Why do they
commit such crimes? Why was my son just walking along the streets and died?
Why?"

Reda's cousin, Sabah Hassan Mohammed, 23, who was walking alongside him
that day, survived but suffered deep gashes in his left leg and deep resentment
in his heart. At the hospital last week, he winced in pain and clutched his
brother's hand.

"I will get better and I will take revenge, for me and for others," he said. "We
are strong. Even if they keep bombing us, we will bear it and we will show them
the results."

© 2002 The Washington Post Company

What the MPAA did RIGHT (5, Interesting)

Lxy (80823) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945980)

Ever notice that /.'ers get excited about DVDs and not new albums? RIAA, START PAYING ATTENTION.

I have seen each of these movies at least 3e6 times each. I have them recorded off TV. I own all three on videocassette. I try to watch them when TBS is running them. Even though I can probably recite each movie by heart, guess what: I was waiting for Target to open last Tuesday so I could be the first to own these. Why? I love these movies.

There's so much techological genius in these movies that the 'making of' stuff is worth the cost of the set to me. I haven't even watched the movies yet, I just opened disc 4 and started watching. GOOD STUFF.

My point? I paid $39.99 for something I already had. I did it VOLUNTARILY. I can download all this stuff off Kazaa I'm sure. Why didn't I? Because it's GOOD STUFF THAT'S WORTH THE MONEY. Most music that's out these days is pure crap. I had no idea that I could take a dump in a jewel case and sell it for $15.99. It's not rocket science: put stuff in the package that people WANT, and they will buy.

I would hope (1)

Binarybrain (253017) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945981)

that most of you have refused to buy DVD players like I have.

dear Back to the Future fans... (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4945986)

Hey, thanks for buying the new DVD set. We knew you guys wouldn't resists.

Universal Studios appreciates your business. Especially since $3 from every sale goes directly to a needy Senator, who is working hard right now to make sure the entire legal system in this country is designed to line our pockets with cold, hard, cash and take away your control over the things you buy.

That's right! Enjoy your DVD today, because tomorrow you may need to pay $4.99 to "re-key" your shiny new DVD+ player so it will play.

That's what we call progress! And you're funding it!

Thanks again,

Universal Studios

For those curious about the widescreen misframing (5, Informative)

Dimensio (311070) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945988)

You can find comparison shots here [1badgp.com] , here [1badgp.com] and here [1badgp.com] , with more to be seen here [gluxx.de] (warning, that site is very intensive and not the best designed. It's also in German, but the pics are right in one of the frames if you let it load completely and scroll down a bit).

Keep in mind that those screenshots are just examples. The framing for ALL of BTTF 2 and BTTF 3 is messed up in the same way EXCEPT for special effects shots (those were hard-matted on the print, so there was no need to apply any matting to the transfer).

I've already called Universal and arranged my return, but the screwup is inexcusable given that it's been known for four months and Universal didn't acknowledge the issue until Wednesday.

Rent them (1)

AGTiny (104967) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945994)

I'm glad I decided to just rent these from Netflix instead of buying them. I was surprised to see all 3 available "Now" instead of having a huge wait!

DeLorean (1)

Aggrazel (13616) | more than 11 years ago | (#4945998)

On my wish list of things I would buy should I win a ton of money to waste in the lottery is a DeLorean complete with Mr. Fusion mock up, and a flame thrower device that blasts fire when I hit 88 miles per hour.

That and a kick-ass sound system to play the theme music wherever I went.

Just need that hover conversion kit ...

*sigh, childhood dreams*

Bad menus? (2)

spectecjr (31235) | more than 11 years ago | (#4946004)

Get a better DVD player. Yours is defective.

No problems with the menus on my system. (Pioneer, twin laser).

What's yours?

Simon

What really annoys me, (1)

pecosdave (536896) | more than 11 years ago | (#4946018)

is there any real reason to have two different versions to begin with? DVDs have the ability to have both widescreen AND full screen on the same disk. If I'm not mistaken it's not even two different video tracks but the same track with a pan and scan formula built in that takes very little room, any experts care to correct me if I'm under a misconception?

IN SOVIET RUSSIA (0)

CmdrTypo (603848) | more than 11 years ago | (#4946040)

future travels back to YOU!

Slashdot welcomes sponsor-submitted ads (2)

corebreech (469871) | more than 11 years ago | (#4946047)

"I guarantee that nobody has seen the Back to the Future series like this before."


Was this story straight out of the mouth of a Universal Studios weasel or what?
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