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New Phrack

michael posted more than 11 years ago | from the things-man-wasn't-meant-to-know dept.

Security 239

Anonymous Coward writes "A new issue of the Phrack Magazine, #60 has been released today. It details some decent technique about kernel exploitation (OpenBSD), Cisco remote exploit, how to backdoor a core bzimage kernel and other stuff. The ascii based magazine is available at phrack.org."

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fp (-1, Offtopic)

lommer (566164) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975171)

karma to burn

Re:fp (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975176)

What is MS working on these days?

Re:fp (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975182)

i have no fuckin idea

Re:fp (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975199)

Hi, Fuck You.

Re:fp (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975210)

fuck you too, asshole troll/flamer...

Re:fp (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975262)

I own this place and I think you are wrong.

Gota SEX! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975217)

http://goatse.cx [goatse.cx]

big peNIS (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975183)

all i have to say is big boobies on matt havener

Re:big peNIS (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975190)

you are gay

Re:fp (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975198)

haha, u burned it baaad too posting @ +1...

sucker

Most first posts in a thread? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975232)

there are more posts in this fp thread than in the rest of the article at the moment...

well here's another one :-)

Slow Day? (0, Troll)

Cyno01 (573917) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975172)

Wow, a new issue of phrack is out whoopdie friggin doo!

Re:Slow Day? (1)

bergeron76 (176351) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975194)

Dude, I don't know about you, but Phrack brings back some _intense_ memories for me.

(reminiscing about my first beige box experience - dial tone!)

I tend to think that the news here is more along the lines of "Phrack is back" than they've released a new issue. If you don't appreciate Phrack, you're probably either too young or too old.

Re:Slow Day? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975240)

(reminiscing about my first beige box experience - dial tone!)

Whoo boy! You must be getting all tingly?

Of course everyone knows that a beige box is a regular telephone with the plug chopped off the end and alligator clips attached. WOW! You are so l33t, dude. What amount of brainpower did it take to hook that up? Hope you didn't cum all over yourself thinking about it.

Re:Slow Day? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975377)

Hope you didn't cum all over yourself thinking about it.
I hate to disappoint you but you should see the mess in here.

And fond memories they are! (5, Interesting)

murky.waters (596967) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975376)

I remember back in the day, I was on an internship at a local comp-sci research center. Of course I was only given a lowly user account, actually even worse than that. Anyhow, I had fun exploring Solaris, creating a lot of core dmps mainly, and came about the new issue of phrack.

I had looked through a few issues before after reading about it in Bruce Sterling's "Hacker Crackdown". I had perused the all-time favorites: how to build a bomb, a gun, how to break into cars, and so on. Back then, phrack was already archieved on the www, but the newest issue was only available as tarball. After lunch break, the admin asked me if had been reading phrack, he refered to it as "hacker stuff"---yes, I said, annoyed about him snooping around.

But then I actually read the new issue.

There was an article in it about how to get root on a Solaris workstation, exploiting the availability of FORTH on Sparc machines.

I was sitting in front of a Solaris workstation.

I smiled.

I kept smiling.

Four days and a lot of experimentation later, the administrator found a new file in his personal TODO directory (yes, he had actually called it that). It read


*""""""""""""""""""*
[pHraCK]

MAYBE YOU SHOULD READ IT, TOO.
*""""""""""""""""""*


The link to the phrack article [phrack-don...t-dmca.org] .

Re:And fond memories they are! (5, Interesting)

The Tyro (247333) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975481)

Yep, Phrack has come to my rescue too.

Was talking to a systems guy where I was working (where they still use VMS), and inquired why we hadn't migrated to something else... His reply was that VMS had never been hacked.

Never been hacked?? That piqued my curiousity... fortunately, I knew just where to look (from my misspent youth). A short search of the Phrack archives turned up not one but several VMS hacks. They were mostly social engineering hacks rather than code expoits, but they were legitimate hacks.

Rather than getting annoyed at an amateur (which I was, and still remain), the systems guy actually read the articles with some interest. The ability to learn something from someone who's clearly your tech inferior, without any ego getting in the way... gotta admire that.

Re:Slow Day? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975552)

Yeah, 'ascii based', no pictures, no flash, no animations, nothing. Who needs this anyway. Bah.

brain cells too huh? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975174)

dumbass

I dont mean to bait the flames... (0, Offtopic)

packeteer (566398) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975180)

... But isn't micheal going too far?

look at his last couple of articles... they are just plain weird...

i dunno what it is and im not saying its really horrible to get some change but im just curious why these articles have shown up all of a sudden...

Perhaps... and I'm not meaning to troll either... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975201)

But did you ever consider the possibility that michael is a fucking idiot/asshole/nincompoop/[fill in your favorite adjective here]?

Gee, Mikey boy, I wonder how many script kiddies you're filling with this wonderful knowledge, jackass.

Re:I dont mean to bait the flames... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975223)

PMS. Don't worry, it'll pass.

Re:I dont mean to bait the flames... (5, Insightful)

kinnunen (197981) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975333)

I have never been a big fan of micheal, but if I he can bring some fresh air in to this stinkhole then more power to him. I've been reading slashdot for several years and I'm pretty damn sick of the endless stream of stories about DMCA, RIAA, MPAA, anything about MS that immediately has a score 5 comment about how unstable windows95 is, how some company in Canada that I've never heard of is doing a linux feasibilty study, a new 1000TB storage technology that will never hit the stores, etc etc. It's always a variation of some basic story that we've already heard a thousand times - the following discussion usually has NO variation. Everyone agrees Jack Valentini is an asshole, and about 50% of readers think MS can go to hell and the other 50% thinks they are just another big corp that sometimes does stuff we don't like but should be tolerated. Even "weird" is an improvement over the same old tired shit.

Re:I dont mean to bait the flames... (1)

dagbrown (126362) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975362)

Wow, bitching about how Slashdot has nothing but all this nerdy crap?

Boy are you in the wrong place.

Re:I dont mean to bait the flames... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975384)

I don't know about him, but for me, it just irritates me that EVERY SINGLE FUCKING REPLY is incredibly predictable and easily fits into one of several category of responses that is inevitable to any story. It's just getting old.

Re:I dont mean to bait the flames... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975399)

Why don't you do something out of the ordinary so Slashdot can post an article on it? Then all of the articles will be a little less predictable than you already think they are.

Re:I dont mean to bait the flames... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975395)

This is not that weird. phrack 58 was published in Dec. 2001, 59 in August. The website was up and down sporadically and some didn't think it was going to be around anymore. So issue 60 is news, at least to some people.

Local Man Has Same Name (2, Offtopic)

eln (21727) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975189)

Slow News Day Grips Springfield

Re:Local Man Has Same Name (0, Redundant)

eln (21727) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975207)

Great, now this is destined to be modded down as redundant.

ASCII (-1, Offtopic)

CommieBozo (617132) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975216)

So how is Phrack more "ascii-based" than, oh, say, Slashdot?

Re:ASCII (2, Insightful)

kingkade (584184) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975234)

So how is Phrack more "ascii-based" than, oh, say, Slashdot?

Well, I think it means there is no layout or formatting information such as in, oh, say, Slashdot.

Re:ASCII (5, Funny)

JPriest (547211) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975269)

"So how is Phrack more "ascii-based" than, oh, say, Slashdot?"

Because Slashdot is in fucking HTML you nimrod.

Re:ASCII (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975299)

Looks to me like this HTML is encoded as ASCII, smart guy.

Re:ASCII (2, Funny)

anothy (83176) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975353)

um... well, /. is indeed HTML, and the original question may well have come from a nimrod, but you're not actually providing any useful information. you can do html in ascii, y'know? an earlier reply to the same question managed to answer the question (suggesting that the phrase was meant to imply the lack of html-like formating) without getting overly nasty.
of course, a more useful - and more correct - observation would have been that /. in fact isn't based on ascii, but can use international characters as well.
you nimrod.

Re:ASCII (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975507)

Oh, cool: a response hand-crafted out of pure Nerdonium. To anyone with even the vaguest grip of what's going on, PHRACK is in pure text, with no formatting or graphics. Slashdot, well, it has graphics. Simple as that.

I can almost hear the spittle come out of your mouth and onto your screen as you twirl your pale little finger going "but TECHNICALLY the HTML source code is constructed of ASCII so it's technically ASCII itself, can't you see..."

No. A house with modern materials that has a wood floor is not a house made of wood. A house made of wood is a house made of wood.

Nimrod^2.

Re:ASCII (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975281)

Phrack text files are pure ASCII.

Phrack.Org, as well as Slashdot.Org, are both HTML.

Re:ASCII (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975352)

Well, I've seen some foreign chars on here, so I'd guess Slashdot is actually ISO-8859-1, which is a superset of ASCII.

As for why they said "ascii" instead of "plain text", I dunno. I guess they think you'll open up the file in a hex editor and read the raw bytes someday, and they just wanted to make sure you knew how to interpret those raw bytes!

Hopefully Phrack will submit their next issue in EBCDIC, and give us all a little excitement in our dreary lives.

È@@@@@ÅÂÃÄÉÃK@èk@¦@\£\@@k@}£@¦o%%

Phrack. (0, Offtopic)

nizcolas (597301) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975219)

Man, they don't make em like they used to. Is F.U.C.K. (fucked up college kids) still around?

Re:Phrack. (4, Informative)

packeteer (566398) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975246)

They stopped making their zine a long time ago... some of the ppl frmo F.U.C.K. formed www.attrition.org [attrition.org] where you can find all the old copies of F.U.C.K.

Re:Phrack. (4, Informative)

gir (546369) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975549)

What do you mean they don't make them like they used to?

Surprisingly enough, the textfile scene is quite alive!

Both www.textscene.com [textscene.com] and scene.textfiles.com [textfiles.com] do what they can to stay on top of the newest tfiles.

Wow... (1, Interesting)

JPhule (170787) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975225)

I remember reading phrack back in the day. It gave me fun things to do friends and foes before I realized how stupid a lot of it was. Building red, blue, biege etc. boxes and turning off my nieghbors phone. It was mostly juvenile stuff that just turned me into a little delinquent but it got me interested in the tech industry and I apprieciate that.


Linux Users suck penises. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975227)

Every single one of 'em.

IN SOVIET RUSSIA (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975238)

Penises suck linux users.

man, wouldn't that be grate

Re:IN SOVIET RUSSIA (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975344)

Soviet Sad Man is sad penises suck linux users.

42 to 60... (0, Redundant)

SoSueMe (263478) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975228)

... wooohooo, this is a Big Numbers NewsDay!

"..recent vulnerabilities in the OpenBSD kernel.." (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975229)

"We will focus on 2 recent vulnerabilities in the OpenBSD kernel as our case studies."

4... 5... 6... 7... 8 seconds without hole in the default install, and counting!

(not that BSD wouldn't be alive and well, however...)

Re:"..recent vulnerabilities in the OpenBSD kernel (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975506)

know the difference between "local" and "remote" genius?

obviously not....

L33T SK1LZ (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975230)

1 CA|\| SH0 J00 HO\/\/ 2 0WWN04 A C0PY OF PHR3AK W1TH A P3NC1L!!!

Anyone notice... (2, Informative)

Dillon2112 (197474) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975245)

...that the link is to phrack.org but when you actually go there, their current site name is a bit different? =P
I like some of what they stand for (intellectual curiosity, hacking (in the real sense) and freedom) but a lot of what they *do* with those ideas is a bit dissapointing. In this case however, its not only right on target, but funny as well.

guess... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975550)

phreak/hack?

Cool domain (5, Interesting)

alfaiomega (585948) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975248)

The gzipped tarball of Phrack #60 is available at http://www.phrack-dont-give-a-shit-about-dmca.org/ archives/phrack60.tar.gz [phrack-don...t-dmca.org]

Nostalgia... (5, Interesting)

alfaiomega (585948) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975291)

After looking at Phrack #1 [phrack.org] from 1985 I decided that I just have to run
for i in `seq -w 1 60 | tac`; do wget http://www.phrack.org/archives/phrack$i.tar.gz; done
and spend this day on reading Phrack issues backwards. It's going to be a hellova nostalgic New Year for me... :_)

Re:Nostalgia... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975304)

You sir are in dire need of a life. But look at me posting to slashdot at 2:30 am.

Re:Nostalgia... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975400)

Damn your shell-specific command line!

Personally, I'm a
seq -w 60 1 | sed 's@.*@http://phrack.org/archives/phrack&.tar.g z@' | wget -i-

kinda guy myself!

(apologies for any slashdot code mangling)

This is Phrack? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975264)

root@phrack.org:/var/log > grep '\.mil' httpd_access.log | uniq | wc -l
248
root@phrack.org:/var/log > grep '\.gov' httpd_access.log | uniq | wc -l
937

Am I wrong in assuming that httpd_access.log contains a lot more information per line than just the contacting domain(timestamps, commands, etc)? And is httpd_access.log sorted? Is there another version of uniq that I don't know about?

Re:This is Phrack? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975354)

> Am I wrong in assuming that httpd_access.log contains a lot more information per line than just the contacting domain(timestamps, commands, etc)?

Yes. And your point is? (Of course you do understand the meaning of grep '\.gov' httpd_access.log, now don't you?)

> And is httpd_access.log sorted?

Of course it's sorted, why wouldn't it? Did you think it's being shuffled after every line written?

> Is there another version of uniq that I don't know about?

I'm sure there is. Do you know about uniq 2.0 form GNU textutils? 1.0? 1.4? Maybe BSD version? Solaris? AT&T? Older SunOS? Perl Power Tools? Minix? System V?

Do you have any more intelligent questions? Good. Now go play outside with other stupid kids, because there is no place for you in front of a computer.

Re:This is Phrack? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975546)

> Yes. And your point is?

My point? Well, two lines that look like this:

someplace.gov [29/Dec/2002:03:45:00 -0500] "Get ...
someplace.gov [29/Dec/2002:03:45:05 -0500] "Get ...

Will both show up with grep '\.gov' and neither are unique though both are likely to be coming from the same session.

Or how about:

someplace.gov [29/Dec/2002:03:45:00 -0500] "Get ...
anotherplace.gov [29/Dec/2002:03:45:03 -0500] "Get ...
someplace.gov [29/Dec/2002:03:45:05 -0500] "Get ...
anotherplace.goc [29/Dec/2002:03:45:07 -0500] "Get ...

Now you have two sessions that will all show up as four unique connections.

> (Of course you do understand the meaning of grep
> '\.gov' httpd_access.log, now don't you?)

Yes, as a matter of fact, I do.

> Of course it's sorted, why wouldn't it?

Is it really? Log entries usually occur when an event happens. I suppose it is sorted by time but that wouldn't really help a utility that does string comparisons, now would it?

> Do you know about uniq 2.0 form GNU textutils?
> 1.0? 1.4? Maybe BSD version? Solaris? AT&T?
> Older SunOS? Perl Power Tools? Minix? System V?

I know some of those but not all. The ones I know about don't work the way they are intending it to work. If they are looking for unique sessions then the entries need to be sorted by session and everything but the host needs to be stripped before being passed to uniq. If they are looking for unique host access then everything but the host needs to be stripped and the whole file needs to be sorted alphabetically before being passed to uniq. As it stands, the only way those commands will work from them is if they use custom logging to log only host names and if no .mil or .gov IP's try to access their site at the same time.

> Do you have any more intelligent questions? Good

I'm still waiting for an intelligent reply. Maybe there is one after your post.

> Now go play outside with other stupid kids,
> because there is no place for you in front of a
> computer

My goodness! Such strong words for someone who knows so very little.

Re:This is Phrack? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975382)

"Am I wrong in assuming that httpd_access.log contains a lot more information per line than just the contacting domain(timestamps, commands, etc)?"

sweet zombie jesus! you mean there's more in httpd logs than millions of lines containing a dot and a tld?! fuck me in my anus with a 10 inch dildo without a foreplay, you're right!

Re:This is Phrack? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975407)

grep '\.gov' httpd_access.log | uniq | wc -l

Am I wrong in assuming that httpd_access.log contains a lot more information per line than just the contacting domain(timestamps, commands, etc)? And is httpd_access.log sorted? Is there another version of uniq that I don't know about?


perl -nle'print$1 if/([\w.]+\.(gov|mil))/' httpd_access.log|sort -u|wc -l

you skript kiddies these days can't even count domains in a log file? then how the fuck do you think you will clean the logs after your intrusion, heh? god, what have i done to deserve living on a moron planet?!

Re:This is Phrack? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975421)

"This is Phrack?"

Yes, it is. It's a zin for script kiddies (oh, sorry! I mean 31337 h4x0r5). What's your point?

Re:This is Phrack? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975489)

You don't have to sort before you apply uniq. All it does is filter out identical consecutive lines. So it just eliminates obvious duplicates, like someone hitting reload or clicking the link twice quickly or something.

how to get 4 @ ][ 0 r Skillz (0, Flamebait)

sickboy_macosX (592550) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975274)

Wanna be a mster haxor man, read Phrack and 2600 and write cool Password Grabbers in Perl man I wish i could be as leet as everyone else

Re:how to get 4 @ ][ 0 r Skillz (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975441)

Yeah, and I guess you don't just listen to music either, you write all your own. 'Cause listening to someone else's would be, like, soooo lame and unleet.

And of course you build your own TVs that you watch your own programming on. You built your own house with tools YOU made from trees YOU chopped down... I think you get the point.

Why goatse will soon be gone (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975277)

I am progressivly training myself in the art of ass-streching. In a few months, my anus will be able to strech 2x the size of goatse's with no tearing, and little discomfort to me. Watch this space for the new goatse comming in Q3 2003

Does all this training hurt your ability to spell? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975287)

Or were you just born retarded?

All flames aside, I am looking forward to this new and improved goatse.

Re:Does all this training hurt your ability to spe (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975300)

I think he's really drunk, no one in their right mind would do this. Nothing is going to happen, the real goatman [goatse.cx] lives on.

Mirrored in advance. (2)

SHEENmaster (581283) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975283)

ASCII sucks! In the future, we will all be using AMAZA-COLOR ANSI graphics!

Aside from its dull graphics, phrack is a cool magazine and I recommend that everyone download it. If, by some act beyond our understanding, it gets /.ed, you can use my mirror here [dnsart.com] .

Great. (1)

monoqlith (610041) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975290)

Like many others, I don't give a phrack.

Took them long enough (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975314)

It's too bad it took them so long. There are no good ezines left. It was nice back in the day when everyone had ezines. I remember rushing to d/l issues of phrack on my 2400 baud modem and then distributing them back to the local bbses. Hopefully phrack will be around for another hundred years and hopefully they'll produce issues more regularly..

Traffic Lights (4, Interesting)

sharph (171971) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975323)

Theres an article about hacking traffic lights. Do you think that now that the information is now open to a wide public, we will see traffic lights doing weird things?

Re:Traffic Lights (5, Funny)

Phroggy (441) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975383)

Theres an article about hacking traffic lights. Do you think that now that the information is now open to a wide public, we will see traffic lights doing weird things?

No, not really.

Re:Traffic Lights (2)

Evil Adrian (253301) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975392)

The information on building incendiary devices (that's "bombs" for any morons that may be reading this) is open to a wide public on the internet, too, but we don't see explosions all over the place... so most likely, no.

Re:Traffic Lights (2)

geek (5680) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975403)

Considering traffic lights wont blow up on you, people may find it more entertaining.

Fewer people would fuck with bombs than traffic lights

Re:Traffic Lights (2)

Pyromage (19360) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975412)

I'd be not so sure. A lot of kids are fearless about personal injury, but I think there are more reckless young pyros than adolescents with no fear of authority. Sure, most thumb their nose at the Man often enough and give independance plenty of lip service, but anyone who gets caught fscking w/ traffic signals will be majorly fucked, and more kids will acknowledge that than their mortality, I think.

IN SOVIET RUSSIA (0)

Old Wolf (56093) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975415)

Traffic lights hack you

Re:IN SOVIET RUSSIA (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975504)

Soviet Sad Man is sad traffic lights hack you.

yikes (2)

Tumbleweed (3706) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975420)

You know what, the first time some idiot messed with traffic lights and gets a family killed because of it, you'll see the first capital murder case from hacking in the U.S. The only possible 'safe' hacking you could do of traffic lights would be to turn them all red. You better hope you don't accidentally turn them all green, though, or even yellow.

Stick to defacing web sites, kids, especially if you live in Texas. Yeesh.

actually (4, Funny)

commodoresloat (172735) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975431)

I recall a story in an old 2600 about someone who managed to get caught hacking not traffic lights but those signs on freeways with giant LEDs telling people there is a traffic jam or whatever. Seems this guy changed the text to read "FUCK YOU ALL." Pretty funny, and relatively harmless, imho. But yeah it's not the same as messing with a traffic light, which could be really dangerous.

Re:yikes (3, Informative)

thogard (43403) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975536)

There is very little you can do with trafic lights. Most of them use physical relay lock outs to keep two of the signals going green in different directions at the same time. About all that could be done that could cause a problem is dropping the yellow time to close to zero but there should be a minium time for that as well. Other than that, you've got exactly the same risk as when the power goes out. Too bad in that case most people think they have the right of way on the main road and no company has been smart enough to put in some battery backed flashing LED's to hint to people that its tuned into a 4 way stop. Of course 99% of all intersections with traffic lights could be replaced with round-abouts and increase saftey but that won't ever happen.

life imprisonment (2)

SHEENmaster (581283) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975492)

if your traffic hack results in someones death, you can be faced with a life sentence under modern U.S. law.

If you don't live in America, we'll just threaten your government until they let us extradite. I firmly believe that hacking is art, but some things should just be left alone. That said, I throughly read and enjoyed it; keep em coming phrack!

And in other news.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975339)

There is a new "free kevin" bumper sticker out.

cDc are 31337.

The Power Rangers is back on.

Puberty has been postponed again.

great!!! (1)

Superfarstucker (621775) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975340)

can i subscribe to the 'i wanna be a hacker' club too? aww darn.. well LoL

What ever did happen toi Craig Neidorf? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975346)

Ya know....the phrack editor who defrauded AT&T of many $$$$$$$, only it turned out to be $19.95?

Re:What ever did happen toi Craig Neidorf? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975364)

Still working at UUnet...er, Worldcom, AFAIK.

Re:What ever did happen toi Craig Neidorf? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975389)

What ever did happen toi Craig Neidorf?
In grand Phrack tradition, here's a prophile [yahoo.com] of what he's been doing with himself lately.

Re:What ever did happen toi Craig Neidorf? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975524)

So you're saying he's in prison, then?

Tip: when using a redirect, make sure it's long enough to hide the "goatse.cx" past the link preview. That is all.

~~~

Gray hat? (5, Interesting)

arvindn (542080) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975378)

Phrack is perhaps a good example of the line between black hat and white hat "hackers" being blurry. The articles are informative and well-written, and by intelligent people, not your typical 14 yr old cracker on ecstasy who launches DDOS attacks from haX0r'd machines. I've done a compilers course, but still found a lot to learn about compilers from a phrack article on buffer overflows. Also check out the essays at SANS [sans.org] .

Re:Gray hat? (5, Informative)

SuperDuG (134989) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975429)

I think the one thing that people need to get out of their heads is the common misconception of a "black hat hacker or cracker". The terminology is quite specific as:

- "sript kiddie" refers to someone with little or no maturity that uses an automated exploit scan program that makes hacks a matter of happenstance if anything else.

- "cracker" is one step higher from a script kiddie as this is a person who actually has a target in mind, but is not randomly screening. Usually a cracker will gain access by acquring a password (hence cracker). There are many ways to do this, but the more calculated attacks are usually by a cracker that is persistent.

- "black hat hackers" these are the guys you rarely hear about as they're main goal in life is to be where they shouldn't be and make sure that they're the only ones that know what they are doing. This is the sexiest of illegal hackers as these are the types that actually get into the "unbreakable" systems and really do know their shit. These people work for the government usually (and not just American) and some are even employed without wanting to be (part of a plea bargain). These are the type of people that you want to not be interested in your system as with a certain amount of time they will get into your system.

I'm not implying you don't know this, I was meerly trying to elaborate further on your post. And not everything these "Evil Hackers" do is all that bad. Many "script kiddie" tools are useful in testing your own systems for holes or exploits, if you have the same toys as they do, they can't beat you.

Grey hats are where most all computer type people belong, where we all usually do good, but we do know some tricks of the trade. Like an automechanic who knows how to hotwire a car or jimmy a lock open, does that make him a criminal? Same goes for anyone who is a professional locksmith (make the best theives?), doctors (make the best killers?), and bomb squad officiers (make the best bomb builders?). The joy of being a grey hat is knowing enough to protect yourself because you've been there before.

Case-In-Point ... the most secure server is one that is unplugged and buried in the middle of the earth, and that's still questionable.

Re:Gray hat? (0)

Arimus (198136) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975461)

"Case-In-Point ... the most secure server is one that is unplugged and buried in the middle of the earth, and that's still questionable."


I'd guess that in the middle of the earth it would be pretty secure as it would have melted :) not to mention the potential for a volcano where you drilled through the crust releasing pressure...

Re:Gray hat? (1)

LucidityZero (602202) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975493)

I have been calling myself a "grey hat" for a while now.

Point: my email address is greyhathacker@ that really popular hotmail thing.

old paul gave rap a cold call (-1)

YourMissionForToday (556292) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975393)

the caucasoid had the whole block annoyed it took big gilded gold balls, to smile at terror, and trial, and error...

Whoever guesses what that quote's from will win a piñata. By the way I support drug use. QOTD servers are leet!

er... (1, Insightful)

ronaldcromwell (596642) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975397)

i just glanced over the mailbag section, and while some of the reader letters are indeed pretty lame, do they really have to be that elitest in their replies? ugh... yeah yeah, flamebait, i know- but it had to be said.

haiku (1)

bobtheprophet (587843) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975408)

This would be stupid
But hacking traffic lights is
mentioned. Traffic lights!

OpenBSD exploit... (0, Flamebait)

dietlein (191439) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975416)

After reading through the OpenBSD exploit, I came to the end:
Greets to: optyx, dan, dave aitel, gera, bind, jeru, #convers
uberhax0r, olympos and gsu.linux ppl

Most thanks of all to goes to Asli for support, help and her never-ending
affection. Seni Seviyorum, mosirrr!!

Look at the names. Look at those words. They are the Al Queda!

Phrack? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975424)

this site sucks ass until it bleeds purple. I advise everyone to use drugs, even the ones who haven't tried it. Drugs will enrich your life.
Oh and to make this on topic: Pour your fucking mod points down my pants, tribble. It turns me on. No seriously, it does. I dare you to try it.

Microsoft (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975446)

their Visual Studio.Net tour gives me a hardon. And the fact that it's "free"-well, it's almost enough to make me fakejaculate!

Finally (0)

SpIKeAKAThEONe (534505) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975460)

Something geeky :D.

oh lord (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975463)

we have the hax0rs on one side, and barney rubble on the other side. I had no idea that fred was s uch a l33t ha40xr.!!!!

Phrack rules. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4975477)

I love phrack. What an informative digest. It's like Readers Digest for the... well .... poser hacker d00ds.

Don't get me wrong, bugtraq and phrack are about the coolest thing since ... fire.

Gotta love that stuff. Soon you, too, will be using a halmark card to make long distance calls to your own favorite overseas terrorist organization.

EOL

Phrack? (1)

dupper (470576) | more than 11 years ago | (#4975490)

What the phruck?

Don't worry, I'll do it myself.
/me pimpslaps himself

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