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Tai Chi Robots

timothy posted more than 11 years ago | from the en-garde dept.

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dknight writes "It seems that Chinese scientists are currently developing a robot which is capable of doing tai chi. The robot is being developed by the Beijing University of Science and Engineering, and is touted to be a great breakthrough in worker safety, as these robots could be used to perform dangerous work. They are supposedly able to sense changes in the slope of the earth around them (hills, etc.) and balance themselves out."

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fp (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4991162)

get it in ya.

happy new year.

IN SOVIET RUSSIA (-1)

handybundler (232934) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991347)

Tai Chi Robot get's IT in YOU.

Ummm... (5, Funny)

peacefinder (469349) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991167)

I wonder how they're gonna get 'em to breathe right?

Re:Ummm... (2)

Ravagin (100668) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991204)

Yeah, really. I can see them making a robot that can execute the forms, but that's not really what doing tai'chi is all about. Ah well, i guess it sounds good for PR purposes.

Re:Ummm... (2)

mindstrm (20013) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991543)

I think the point is about the thing's ability to balance itself in a natural manner.

If it can handle easily being progrmamed to do tai'chi, something even many humans can't do easily, it has great usefulness.

play (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4991487)

How exactly do you "play tai chi" as the article puts it?

Re:play (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4991504)

Could be the translation, in certain contexts the word for 'do' in chinese, literally means (in english) 'play'.

Re:Ummm... (1)

Threni (635302) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991521)

And are the commies gonna persecute them too? or is that just falun gong?!

So...slow... (5, Funny)

Stillman (185591) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991170)

So if you gave them a faster processor, could they do other martial arts? ;)

>

Re:So...slow... (5, Funny)

Kierthos (225954) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991226)

*insert 2.5 Ghz processor*
Robot: Whoa. I know Kung Fu.

Kierthos

Re:So...slow... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4991423)

Who the FUCK moderated this as flamebait???
It was, at worst, a bad joke?

Does /. let any drunken moron, or Dubbya voter moderate?

Uh.. (2, Insightful)

pilot1 (610480) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991178)

whats the point of a robot that does martial arts? I doubt one would ever be able to defeat anyone, since the robots can't "think".

Re:Uh.. (2, Insightful)

Stillman (185591) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991187)

Balance. Coordination. Grace.
Things that are pretty damn impressive for a robot.

Re:Uh.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4991188)

Try reading at least the entire blurb on Slashdot if you aren't going to read the article. Such robots can be used to do dangerous work that would otherwise be done by humans.

Re:Uh.. (3, Interesting)

Yuan-Lung (582630) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991251)

This is not a cartoon battling robot we are talking about.

The point is to have a human-shaped robot that is able to balance itself on uneven terran, while in various positions.

I am guessng that they picked tai chi becuase it's collection of forms with emphsis on balance, besides using it as a gimmick.

Re:Uh.. (1)

Beebos (564067) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991506)

Uh...

I don't believe Tai Chi is a Martial Art.

Re:Uh.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4991523)

What you believe has no particular relevance, and its about time you figured that out.

Re:Uh.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4991519)

Never seen BattleBots, have you?

That's nothing... (-1)

NocturnalWarrior (19198) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991185)

I'm working on a beowulf cluster of soviet russian kung fu grit-heating robots

Sense of Balance (5, Funny)

FocaJonathan (163913) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991186)

They are supposedly able to sense changes in the slope of the earth around them (hills, etc.) and balance themselves out.

Why not just put the chinese robot on a Segway?

Standards (1)

zabieru (622547) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991189)

Hmm... That's actually a pretty good measurement of the ability to act like a human, physically. Sounded aweful silly when I read the headline, but any robot that could meet the standards of flexibility and balance I'd want if it was gonna be doing something I cared about could probably do tai chi as well...

Tai Chi (0, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4991190)

Four years ago I was buying fireworks at a local place. The guy working there wanted $1.99 for a bottle rocket. I told him that some day I would be able to buy a wintel computer for my kids for $599. He laughed and said, "LOL, Tai Chi Robots".

mmmmmk (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4991321)

This is a one-day-only joke, right?

Get it all out before the year's done.

Re:Tai Chi (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4991425)

I've seen this in a couple of threads today, can someone please explain where it's from ?

Now all they need... (0, Offtopic)

Julian Morrison (5575) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991191)

...is Kung Fu robots!! and then they'll be able to take over the wooorld!!!! bwahahahah

With 2 billion ppl... (2, Insightful)

SunPin (596554) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991439)

They couild take over the world without robots.

HEY SLASHDOT, FUCK YOU! ASSLICKERS! GAY ASS FAGS (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4991196)

Can this site get any more fucking lame??

Re:HEY SLASHDOT, FUCK YOU! ASSLICKERS! GAY ASS FAG (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4991219)

You must be new here, wait, ugh...

Worker safety ? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4991199)

Imagine a Beowulf ... err, union of these

I need one of these... (5, Funny)

DwarfGoanna (447841) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991207)

I'm too lazy to do Tai Chi myself. What a perfect example of robots doing repetitive tasks for us. We really do live like the Jetsons. =)

heh (1, Troll)

grub (11606) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991221)


It's good to see that when they aren't busy making draconian filters and firewalls that they are doing something useful with their time.. Tai Chi robots. Sweet...

[/sarcasm]

Re:heh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4991411)

In Soviet Russia, the caps use you!

i am such an ass. i did the stupidest thing yesterday. live and learn.

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So when the robot gets to old for (4, Funny)

nlinecomputers (602059) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991228)

...martial arts is it going to become a bad actor and do martial art/cop shows.

I can see it now:

Robbie the Robot
Texas Ranger


Re:So when the robot gets to old for (1)

Herz (93540) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991513)

Or move to USA and be president

Hmm (4, Funny)

cethiesus (164785) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991230)

Now if they could only build a robot that could do some mean Chai-Tea...

*ba-dum-chee*

Re:Hmm (1, Troll)

BitHive (578094) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991485)

"Chai" means "Tea", so you are, in effect, asking for a robot that makes Tea Tea. It's like talking about DSL lines and PIN numbers.

Re:Hmm (0)

cpthowdy (609034) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991526)

At least he's not asking for a robot that makes Pee Pee.

Tai Chi Balance? (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4991232)

What's the point?

A walking robot that can perform VERY complex motion sequences, balance itself, and respond in real-time to dangerous situations. These robots (or a later generation) could be used to perform rescue tasks in damaged buildings after an earthquake, when the danger of aftershock is still very high-so if the building did collapse, a robot would die, not an extra human being.

Thank god I've been rescued... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4991493)

... AAAHHHH, SPACE ROBOT!

Dumbest idea ever (2, Funny)

L. VeGas (580015) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991234)

Ok, of all the things you can get a robot to do.. tai chi? Geez, Loueez that's lame! What are they thinking? "Let's make a robot that moves reeeeaaaaal slow."

Lift one foot.

Raise an arm.

Even when I was a kid I had a toy robot that had machine guns shoot from its chest. Now that's a robot! At least make it a girl robot and have it do yoga or backbends or something.

Re:Dumbest idea ever (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4991271)

Fuckwad. Tai Chi, when wielded by a master of that method, is one of the more deadlier forms [micro-net.com] of martial arts.

Think before you speak, dimwit.

Re:Dumbest idea ever (2)

I Am The Owl (531076) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991311)

Ah, grasshopper, you have much to learn of the art of English grammar.

Re:Dumbest idea ever (0)

cpthowdy (609034) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991497)

And after you master the English grammer, you can begin learning the Engrish grammer.

Ok, I know you're going for the joke, but. . . (2)

kfg (145172) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991357)

if it's so easy to lift one foot, raise one arm, reeeeaaaaaaal slow, why does it seem so hard for me to get a human student to do it without falling right over?

This is a *major* advancment in humanoid robotics if they've actually pulled this off.

KFG

Re:Ok, I know you're going for the joke, but. . . (2)

L. VeGas (580015) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991400)

if it's so easy to lift one foot, raise one arm, reeeeaaaaaaal slow, why does it seem so hard for me to get a human student to do it without falling right over?

Is this a riddle? I know! Because you only teach one-legged students.

DEAR SIR, WE REGRET TO INFORM YOU THAT YOU SUCK. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4991432)





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Credible? (5, Informative)

Grip3n (470031) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991241)

I've looked on Google, Yahoo!, and even tried to find the information from other sites containing news from the source AFP [afp.com] (which the site credits the information from) and there is literally no other even mention of this robot on the web. I can't help but wonder about the credibility of this article.

Re:Credible? (3, Informative)

theCat (36907) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991509)

I had a doubt too. I searched on the name of the professor, Kejie Li, and not only is that a real professor in China (at one time Professor at Beijing Institute of Technology, China) Kejie Li even gave a talk to the 2001 IEEE International Symposium on Computational Intelligent for Robotics and Automation, in Banff National Park, Canada, titled "Humanoid Walk Control with Feedforward Dynamic". OK, so they didn't advertise a robot doing Tai Chi at the symposium but they've clearly been up to something. Pretty cool if you ask me.

ATTENTION: (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4991245)

If you haven't already entered the new year, please turn off the computer, leave the house, find a party, have some drinks and whatever recreational drugs suit you, and CELEBRATE!

DO NOT spend this new years eve behind a computer at home.

Peave and love in the new year,

metachris

why not? (1)

SweetAndSourJesus (555410) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991473)

That's what I did last year.

and the year before...

and the year before...

and the year before...

Ok, maybe you've got a point.

Anyone have more (1)

snitty (308387) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991254)

The article was a bit lacking. I have to assume it was a bip-ped, but given that top animatronics engineers can't figure out how to make a free standing movable bi-ped, I'm kind of surprised that someone else can, even if it only moves at a thrilling 33cm a step.

And it has to be able to make 50 step a minute to do 1 km/hour. That's a fairly impressive statistic for a self balancing bi-ped.

Does anyone have more info, or story from a reputable news site?

Forget that (3, Funny)

Znonymous Coward (615009) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991256)

I don't want a robot that co do Tai Chi. What we need is a robot that can do Karma Sutra [amazon.com] .

Yup. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4991478)

And she needs to look like this. [nyu.edu] Anatomically correct? Well, that kinda just goes without saying. . .

Re:Forget that (0)

cpthowdy (609034) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991510)

We're halfway there: www.realdoll.com

Keanu (2)

limekiller4 (451497) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991257)

Imagine being the scientist working on this when Mister Roboto looks you square in the eyes and says, "Whoa... I know Tai chi."

I mean, do you suppose the robot will be able to kill him before he reaches the plug?

Sister Roboto (1)

SunPin (596554) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991496)

An old friend from U Florida built Sister Roboto [ufl.edu] which can beat the crap out of anything small. MP>> This was years ago. The Chinese have some catching up to do.

Quatrain (1)

bobtheprophet (587843) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991259)

They say the robot does dangerous jobs
And they say the robot can do tai chi
Maybe I'm just missing something, but
Tai chi doesn't seem dangerous to me.
---
It's a joke, laugh.

Happy New Year! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4991267)


Happy fucking new year, you muther fucking son of a bitches! Don't get all fucking sauced up tonight and stick your dick into some ugly cunt! See ya next year, you fucks!

They may have a problem... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4991270)

With all the fast processors around, will they be able to find one slow enough to do Tai Chi? Big problem.

I have a 286 chip lying around somewhere that I can donate.

My Obligations... (5, Funny)

bahwi (43111) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991279)

"The Chi is strong in this one..." ...NEXT!

They are supposedly able to sense changes in the slope of the earth around them (hills, etc.) and balance themselves out.

They also can sense the emotions and ambitions of the humans around them, slowly feeding off of their pain and misery, and always plotting against us.

Something different:

They can sense the coming of the Singularity [caltech.edu] by using their advanced meditation techniques. Slowly watching us they are, gathing information, to make the elimination of the humans that much more quick. ..NEXT!

Tai Chi Tamagochi Robots! If you feed them they'll grow into Tai Chi Masters, able to masterfully perform even the most difficult moves of Tai Chi.

COLLECT ALL 6 TODAY!!

(Only at Participating McHughs Restaraunts. While Supplies Last.) .NEXT!

It'd be cooler if they were powered by Chi.

NEXT!

"Li added that this type of robot would be able to take over some dangerous jobs from humans."

--As soon as I get my gun, I guess they'll have robotic telemarketers*. Now I need an EMP.

END!

New Movies Titles:
"Kung Fu Tai Chi Fighting Robots from Outer Space!"

"Tai Chi Robots from HELL!"

* I do not condone the shooting of telemarketers in this economy. But as soon as things improve and a better job opens up, say, anything, it'll be ok again.

Re:My Obligations... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4991376)

Oh, dear.

Does your mother know you're going to be alone tonight ?

Another Use (0, Offtopic)

E-Rock-23 (470500) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991280)

Program them to do all those insipid line dances such as the Macarena, Boot Scoot, Electric Slide, etc. Then have a group of them do the dances on international television so the wole world can watch and see how truely stupid they are.

Conversely, they could be programed to do traditional dances from many cultures and preserve these art forms in an extremely interesting way.

Some kid in 2140 wants to know how to do the Latin Hustle? Out comes the Tai-Bot and shows them how. Even play an OGG recording of K.C. And the Shunshine Band at the same time.

Re:Another Use (1)

The Turd Report (527733) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991459)

Even play an OGG recording of K.C. And the Shunshine Band at the same time.

Some things *should* be forgotten.

the most important thing (5, Funny)

pummer (637413) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991292)

are they going to get the robot's mouth to move totally independently of the sounds coming out of the speakers?

I'd only point out that. . . (5, Interesting)

kfg (145172) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991296)

Tai Chi is not "shadow boxing" as the basically uninformative blurb the story links to states. It's a legitimate martial art perfectly useful for beating the crap out of people.

Yes, it has it's solo forms, typically practiced in slow motion, just as other martial arts have *their* practice kata, and just as these other martial arts have kata with partners so does Tai Chi, as well as full out sparing.

Don't be fooled by the new age types teaching it badly to Granny in the park, and don't take lessons in it from any instructor not competent to teach it *as* a martial art. They don't know what they're doing.

That said, any robot that can go through a Yang Long Form with me is a *major* step forward in humanoid robotics. Hell, it takes a great deal of practice and training for a *human* to do it vaguely properly and I want to see this puppy in action.

I wonder how it would do in "pushing hands"? That would be the ultimate test.

KFG

Re:I'd only point out that. . . (2)

BluedemonX (198949) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991320)

Yeah right. Pit a boxer against a guy doing "flying phoenix pushing sky butt monkey hand" at four miles an hour to be in harmony with the universe is going to be panelled into next year.

Why in GODS NAME are they making a robot that can do Tai Chi? That's what old people are for.

Re:I'd only point out that. . . (4, Informative)

netsharc (195805) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991436)

Heh, you have never seen Tai Chi in fast forward. Move your hands forwards and upwards, that blocks the punch and forces the arm of the opponent upwards. One hand stays in front, the other pulls back towards the body. That hand just grabbed the attackers hand, and pulling him down as the other hand smacks him in the face.

It's all about taking the bad guy's force and using it against himself.

Re:I'd only point out that. . . (2, Interesting)

Kdr (637678) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991448)

If you knew anything about Tai Chi you would know that it is practiced much slower than when you would use it as a martial art. If you ever have the chance to see a true Tai Chi Master in combat you will see that they are more than a challenge for your boxer. What can your boxer do but throw punches? A Tai Chi expert would not need to throw a single punch.

Re:I'd only point out that. . . (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4991565)

Dude...

change your sig!

My Asimo style kung fu is unbeatable (5, Funny)

gelfling (6534) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991298)

Crouching diode hidden step motor.

Re:My Asimo style kung fu is unbeatable (1)

lhbtubajon (469284) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991518)

I'm sure you mean:
Crouching diode hidden servo.

Cause, I mean, no way an advanced robot uses stepper motors.

Robots replacing humans? (2, Interesting)

reynolds_john (242657) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991319)

"as these robots could be used to perform dangerous work."

Just think, eventually they will be able to perform all kinds of work, not related to dangerous occupations.
Certainly they will end up being cheaper than the human worker over time.
I look forward to the day when robots are able to do nearly everything we pay manual labor for now. Then what the hell will we do? What will spurn our economy? Will the average blue collar worker work for the robots instead?

Animation replaces actors/actresses, robots replace blue collar workers, etc. etc. It certainly will be interesting to know what an ever-growing population will do with themselves, and how our economy will change in the next 100 years.

Every company (and even our President) wants us to run purchase more and more, but the jobs are decreasing as we're replaced by efficiencies through technology. I guess in the end we'll just ask one another, "Would you like fries with that?"

Re:Robots replacing humans? (1)

Ace905 (163071) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991421)

"I guess in the end we'll just ask one another, "Would you like fries with that?"

You don't think a robot can do that?

Re:Robots replacing humans? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4991529)

I guess he's never seen Back to the Future 2... :P

Re:Robots replacing humans? (1)

feepness (543479) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991433)

Every company (and even our President) wants us to run purchase more and more, but the jobs are decreasing as we're replaced by efficiencies through technology. I guess in the end we'll just ask one another, "Would you like fries with that?"

No, in the end we'll just be asking each other "Would your Robot Master like fries with that?"

Karl Marx was actually prescient . . . (2)

kfg (145172) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991573)

in several regards. He fully foresaw the time when the "problem of production" was fully solved. He actually forsaw the problem this would present for a capitalist industrial economy and pretty much asked all the right questions. Unfortunately he came up with pretty much all the wrong answers. Went a bit loopy at the end too.

The point of the matter is though that it's been quite a while since virtually all rote labor has been able to be performed by robots better than humans. It's been the humans that have been insisting on continuing to do this mindless, and pointless, labor in order that they may have "a job."

This last is just one of the symptoms of a social atmosphere based on humans as machines and their output as "the economy." Me, if a machine can do the job, I *don't want it.* Really, just kill me now if you have to. I'd just curl up in a ball and die of ennui anyway if forced to perform such laborious, yet mindless, tasks.

So what the hell do we do when the machines are doing all such tasks, as I believe they *should*?

How about what humans do better than machines? Think.

Maybe then we'll start to realize that the value and the purpose of a human being isn't to be a robot.

There's going to be a shitload of "shakeout" before that comes to pass though. Batten down the hatches.

KFG

IN SOVIET RUSSIA (-1, Offtopic)

blackgasmask (631716) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991324)

robots develop chinese scientists capable of doing tai chi ON YOU!!

Now that it has mastered tai chi... (1)

malloci (467466) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991326)

it should be able to learn how to do the laundry, clean the dishes, fix dinner, and clean the house relatively easy.
Excellent...

holy cow (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4991329)

Wow, they can move!
So fucking what?

tai chi (1, Funny)

phantomwolph (552305) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991337)

the best line of defence if you are ever attacked in slooow motion

Segway? (2)

peterdaly (123554) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991367)

Too bad they are blocking useful research tools like Google. Otherwise they would know the Segway "scooter" beat them to some of these technological feats.

Can a human ride on the robot's back and still have it sense and adapt to changing surface angle...like the segway.

On the other hand, the segway doesn't do tai chi.

-Pete

Re:Segway? (2)

Xtraneous (594376) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991389)

True, the segway does not do tai chi, but you are forgetting the fact that this new 'tai-chi' robot is a biped.

You kiddin' me? (3, Funny)

minitrue (213792) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991469)

You wanna go around rescuing people from earthquake rubble on a frikkin' scooter?

I wonder.... (2, Funny)

brandonY (575282) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991375)

if performing tai chi is one of the dangerous jobs that the workers could have.

Re:I wonder.... (2)

Lord Bitman (95493) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991393)

Have you every tried some of those advanced moves? I always said that kind of stuff shouldnt be done by humans.

big deal (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4991380)

What so big deal about it. We make robots to kill people. Shoot Saddam's eyes out. Tai Chi, dumb move. In the Lord of Rings, we make trees move too. We will let our trees do the killing and fighting for us from now on.

They better not ad any AI... (2)

Chris_Stankowitz (612232) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991412)

or else this robot may learn Falun Gong [faluninfo.net] and they would have to kick its ass.

Who ya gonna call? (2)

teamhasnoi (554944) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991426)

GhostBustersRobots! [netlocity.net]

Let's see the Tai Chi robots take on Slimer!

Why not merge technologies? (3, Funny)

jafiwam (310805) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991428)

Now if I could get one of the tai chi robots to clean my toilet and do other household tasks, oh, and a better exterior [realdoll.com] would be nice....

Reputible? (3, Interesting)

Chris Canfield (548473) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991441)

A less than one page press release, uncorroborated on the Net, that says that Tai Chi is a form of shadow boxing and that this thing will "Play" Tai Chi? All I can assume that means is that it is capable of moving a second limb in order to balance a first limb, without any sort of major locomotion, but the author's grasp of the subtlety of Tai Chi seems a little tenuous. With the broad scope of this posting, it could be the next revolution in computing or a new program for the Sony Aiboman.

Can anyone find another source for this story?

-C

Re:Reputible? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4991549)

It is possible that the press report was translated (poorly) from the original chinese

Shadow Boxing...FROM MATEL! (1)

Zapaanese.Whore (315742) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991479)

So not to sound crass or disrespectful to the 'shadow boxing' arts (sorry, sorry, I couldn't resist, I mean good lord, SHADOW BOXING?!), but if you had two of these things going at it and one of them hit the other in the head, does it's head go "SPROING!", extend another foot and suddenly stop moving? :D

- Z

Re:Shadow Boxing...FROM MATEL! (1)

Herz (93540) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991537)

Eh..It's

Jeff Goldblum... (2)

snilloc (470200) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991486)

... appears to be doing Tai Chi...

(Courtesy of the SNL Celebrity Jeopardy skits - No, I couldn't resist.)

It's not the first time for Tai Chi & robotics (1)

AnMai (637679) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991501)

Tai Chi's pushing hands (not sticking hands as this article says) has been used before [bbc.co.uk] [news.bbc.co.uk], and someone seems to think the Sony SDR-4X can already do it [tokyodv.com] [www.tokyodv.com].

Even though the SDR-4X doesn't look like it's doing an awful lot (apart from walking and vaguely "holding the ball"), it's at least got better structure than half the people hawking videos ;-)

I Will (1)

KillerKane (260666) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991503)

Defeat your Tai Chi with my Ctl-Alt-....oh, nevermind....

Uh oh.... (0)

cpthowdy (609034) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991553)

I think we had better get that Robot Insurance (http://snltranscripts.jt.org/95/95foldglory.html) now before they start learning Tae Kwon Do.

Foundation for modelling body movement (0)

NewAccount (633131) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991562)

Tai Chi is an excellent foundation for reproducing basic human movement! Although there are walking robots around, they tend to imitate specific legwork, as opposed to (humanoid?) total body movement. I imagine any martial art would do, but the rapid movements of most martial arts would add unnecessary complexity. For practical usage, I imagine using an insect model would be better than an odd upright primate, though. The question is will Disney sue over infringement on Animatronics copyrights?

OK... (5, Interesting)

Mac Degger (576336) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991564)

I see lots of disparaging comments on this one. But I remember seeing Asimo (the Honda robot...please, no SFII jokes) in action and thinking "Jesus, look at that!". Imagine Moore's law applied to that.

Asimo already looked pretty much like a granny in slightly slo-mo. Now add taichi into the mix...that's a complex balancing act most humans can't even do (try it once, before you joke about it...stand on one leg, have the other in the air to the front, put both arms to the side of your body that has the leg in the air...what, you fell down? That's why it's hard. Now add movements to it, all the while balanced and controlled. And sloooow. Get it now?).

I tell you, the Japanese and the Chinese have a big thing here...hardly anyone in the west is taking this seriously (excluding some at for example MIT who are considered slightly strange), and consequently the west will have a HUGE disadvantage when housekeeping robots come out in ten, fifteen years time.
And this time, they're not kidding; look what's been done in 5 years time...from barely crawling (infant) to selfsufficient, internal powersource, full balance, near full range of motion (granny). The processing power is there, now it's just a matter of application and cost. And products like Aibo (which I hate, too) will cover dev costs.

This is a bit of a ramble, I know (champange has that effect on me :P ) but hear this: robots (Asimov's, to be precise) are coming, and the Aseans have a lead on the rest of the world because they took the long view. They have the patents because they took the time and money to develop something not deemed feasable...but looky here, it's slowly but surely turning out to be not only feasible, but thanks to Aibo (and production robots like the ones FIAT makes &uses thanks to the Asians) profittable too.

Thank god someone had the foresight...my IIIc made me feel I was living Star Trek, the next Asimo might make me think I'm living in Asimov's world. I love technology :)

Excellent... (1)

qat (637648) | more than 11 years ago | (#4991574)

Yea wow this robot would be pretty excellent. Great, However I have a question :). How could this be applied to a real life scenario? I mean, can this robot crawl? What stops magnets from messing it up? Or maybe an EMP attack? (Yes, I was watching Oceans 11 last nite, sorry :-\). I suppose it could aid in a bomb threat situation, but why would it need to know Tai-Chi? Oh well, ignore my pesismisticism (is that really even a word? :-P), I just think that too much money is being wasted on stupid shit.
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