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Dow vs. Parody

michael posted more than 11 years ago | from the no-sense-of-humor dept.

News 363

tres3 writes "I stumbled across this item on Wired about Verio cutting off The Thing's Internet access after seven years of service. It seems that The Yes Men have upset DOW Chemical with their parody press release concerning a poison gas leak at the Union Carbide plant (now owned by Dow) in Bhopal, India, in 1984, that killed thousands. It was posted by RTMark.com, one of hundreds of customers (mostly artists and political activists) of The Thing, but has gone missing following the DMCA claims by DOW. Some European sites are now hosting the site here and here (slightly different). What really sent me into orbit was Dow's response to all of this. While writing this submission I noticed that I have become a victim of The Yes Men and "Dow's" response is actually one of their parodies! :-) The story is still valid but the only thing I could find that really came from DOW was the DMCA complaint (pdf) to Verio. To add insult to injury (and death (pun intended)) Dow has committed a reprehensible act, even for corporate America, by suing the survivors for ten years of income ($10,000) for protesting Dow's failure to clean up the mess. Greenpeace has set up a site for you to protest this action." We did an earlier story on this.

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Have you seen The Thing? (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4994009)

That guy's made of rock or something! And he's got a budd that's made of fire, plus that stretchy guy and invisible girl. If I were an ISP, I wouldn't be messing around with superheroes like that!

The real reason Dow is upset (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4994035)

It wasn't some "cosmic storm" that made them that way, it was living next door to the Dow chemical plant. Reed Richards used to work there as a scientist. (But he was a good scientist who only tested on evil animals... like cats.)

fp (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4994013)

word!

Michael (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4994015)

I won't even bother reading the story because it mentions green peace and a corporation. Coming from Michael we know what this is going to be: an orgy of socialism. Fuck off Michael, you stupid liberal fuck.

in soviet russia.... (-1, Offtopic)

rainman31415 (576575) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994017)

....oh who cares.....


rainman

who cares? (1)

joeszilagyi (635484) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994052)

About the abuse of America through the DMCA, or the abuse of the people by Dow overall? Lots of people, I'd wager.

Re:in soviet russia.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4994056)

This is offensive. Don't you know that Bhopal tragedy is ...well... very very tragic?

Re:in soviet russia.... (1)

spazoid12 (525450) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994089)

I think rainman does care, but he's upset that he was close to first-post...but not quite.

Take it easy rainman, you'll get your chance someday.

Their Thing? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4994019)

I stumbled across this item on Wired about Verio cutting off The Thing's

Did anybody else read this as "Verio cutting off their Thing"?

Well (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4994049)

They obviously don't have any balls (testicular fortitude).

uh, no (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4994054)

I think most of us know how to read.

Is this the best whoring you could do? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4994076)

Here I am fresh out of -1 stupids for you.

Re:Is this the best whoring you could do? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4994084)

That's why you shouldn't use them on yourself.

I wonder if the framers of the constitution... (4, Insightful)

UpLateDrinkingCoffee (605179) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994021)

...had foreseen what corporations have become if they wouldn't have put a few special clauses in especially for them.

Re:I wonder if the framers of the constitution... (1)

Twirlip of the Mists (615030) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994144)

I'm sure they would have. Probably something about how a free society naturally has consequences. Something like that.

Always remember, guys. In a free society, you are allowed to do pretty much whatever you like, and the rest of us take responsibility for picking up the pieces afterwards. In a totalitarian society, you are told what you can and can't do from the outset so nobody has to pick up the pieces afterwards. Whether you would prefer to live in a totalitarian society or a free society is up to you, but be careful never to confuse the two.

Re:I wonder if the framers of the constitution... (5, Interesting)

UpLateDrinkingCoffee (605179) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994198)

Im talking about the trend these days to value corporate freedom above individual freedom. I mean, when did a *corporation* get the right to free speech? The people that make up and run that corporation certainly have that right, but this trend of treating corporate entities as individuals is getting out of hand.

Forcing a number of (presumably) individuals with something to say off the web with the stroke of a pen doesn't seem totalitarian to you? Due process isn't even an option due to the cost.

Re:I wonder if the framers of the constitution... (1, Informative)

Twirlip of the Mists (615030) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994226)

I mean, when did a *corporation* get the right to free speech?

You're asking that question backwards. There's nothing in US law that grants a right to free speech to anybody. The law just assumes that that right exists for all persons, individual and corporate alike.

A better way to ask the question would be, why should corporate persons not enjoy free speech?

Forcing a number of (presumably) individuals with something to say off the web with the stroke of a pen doesn't seem totalitarian to you?

Nope, for two reasons. First, they didn't have the right to say what they said in the first place; false representation and defamation are illegal, and are not protected by free speech. (Parody is, of course, but this work was not a parody. It was fraud.) Second, this activity wasn't a government action at all; the government was never involved. Rather, Dow complained to Verio and asked that they enforce their AUP, and Verio complied. The rules were laid down right from the beginning; Thing.net chose to ignore them, so they lost their service.

Re:I wonder if the framers of the constitution... (1)

UpLateDrinkingCoffee (605179) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994344)

The right to free speech in the U.S. is granted to "persons" by the constitution. It transcends the law. You are right that the law assumes corporations have this right, but only because somewhere along the line the supreme court decided corporate entities were "persons".. I'm submitting that corporate persons have the same rights as individuals because of supreme court precident and *not* the intent of the framers of the constitution.

As far as this not being a government action, wasn't the DMCA applied? Verio complied under threat of the consequences of the law, which is given power by the government.

I agree with you that false accusation and defamation are not free speech. If they broke the law, then they should be held accountable. I'm just trying to point out how easy it is for corporate entities to steamroller the rights of individuals (in this case, the right to due process and possibly the right to free speech).

Re:I wonder if the framers of the constitution... (2)

Waffle Iron (339739) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994351)

A better way to ask the question would be, why should corporate persons not enjoy free speech?

Mabye it's because the term "corporate person" is an oxymoron.

Re:I wonder if the framers of the constitution... (1)

shepd (155729) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994238)

>In a free society, you are allowed to do pretty much whatever you like, and the rest of us take responsibility for picking up the pieces afterwards.

Isn't that the definition of an Anarchist society?

In all free societies I know of, I always thought one's freedom extended up until you step on my property, or got within an arms length of my person.

They keep going on about (0, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4994027)

"Corporate Free Speech". Shouldn't it work both ways? Shouldn't parodies be allowed? Not allowing parodies is a violation of invidual Free Speech, surely?

Re:They keep going on about (2, Insightful)

jwilcox154 (469038) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994262)

Shouldn't it work both ways? Shouldn't parodies be allowed? Not allowing parodies is a violation of invidual Free Speech, surely?

Not According to G.W. Bush, he himself said "There ought to be limits to freedom" when he was talking about Parodies of his campaign website.

OMFG (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4994047)

That was the most incomprehensible story summary I've ever read.

There was the group, and we'll give them some forgettable name, and they did some stuff, and DMCA, and ow what hit me, the end.

Re:OMFG (1)

spazoid12 (525450) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994126)

I thought this was pretty funny. So often it's the wrong stuff that scores 5:funny.

Re:OMFG (4, Funny)

Shalome (566988) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994165)

Heh.. you forgot the "Oh, but wait, as I'm writing this I realized that the first half of my submission was utterly ridiculous and actually wrong, but I'm continuing anyway..." and the "Oh wait, we already said this" from the Slashdot editors. ;)

Re:OMFG (2)

Negadecimal (78403) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994172)

Coffee helps a little. But not enough.

how is this different from the earlier story? (1)

avi33 (116048) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994050)

OK, here I go again, grousing about my stories that get rejected, but apparently all I need to do is dig up a previously covered story and link it all to hell.

There's really nothing new here, other than to say 'wired picked up a story that we did two weeks ago.'

RTFA (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4994069)

"We did an earlier story on this." -- TFA

Re:how is this different from the earlier story? (2, Funny)

spazoid12 (525450) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994102)

I've noticed that lately all you need to do is read back-issues of Wired magazine, and in particular, PopSci magazine.

And then hope that either Timothy or ChrisD is on duty.

But, of course, I'm wrong and this is just trollish flamebait. And so in an effort not to get modded down let me add: I found this article to be insightful and informative. I particularly found the Greenpeace link inspiring and have made a mental note to someday, possibly, visit that link...if nothing else, just to see what a bunch of Zodiac owners are up to now.

Re:how is this different from the earlier story? (5, Insightful)

Zeinfeld (263942) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994168)

There's really nothing new here, other than to say 'wired picked up a story that we did two weeks ago.'

The news that Dow is suing the Bopahl survivors to try to silence their protests over Dows failure to clean up is news to me.

The Union Carbide disaster at Bopahl was due to sheer negligence and greed. Dow still refuses to clean up the site of the disaster and has yet to pay compensation to most of the victims.

Perhaps if students stopped and considered the wisdom of joining a company that could kill 800 people with its negligence and not care a damn Dow might have a lot more difficulty recruiting on campus.

If you are choosing an employer in the chemical business their safety record should be your first concern. If you work for a company like Dow that is saying that they can kill 800 people, create pollution that will kill even more and they just don't care you are quite litteraly putting your own life on the line for their corporate profits.

The same goes for communities that have Dow installations near them, or planned to be built near them. Make sure that your representatives are aware that Dow cannoit be trusted.

Re:how is this different from the earlier story? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4994204)

They killed 800 mud-people. It is not as if they killed 800 humans/whites. Get over it. Fucking towel-heads breed like bunnies. 800 mud-babies replaced the dead 800 within the next day. No loss at all.

Re:how is this different from the earlier story? (1)

avi33 (116048) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994268)

...actually if you check out all of the links on the first story, you would have discovered this lawsuit, and written your congressperson using the link (as I did).

Again, my point is, it's just a better-linked version of the original post.

Pretty convincing (1)

Milo Fungus (232863) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994057)

I read through the original discussion. It was really interesting, especially posts like this one [slashdot.org] and its replies. [slashdot.org] The parody site is pretty convincing.

Go to bed micheal! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4994066)

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hundred seventy seven trecentvigintilliard, one hundred ninety four trecentvigintillion, five hundred twenty four trecentnovemdecilliard, six hundred seventy three trecentnovemdecillion, three hundred ninety five trecentoctodecilliard, eight hundred nineteen trecentoctodecillion, two hundred eighty one trecentseptendecilliard, four hundred eighty six trecentseptendecillion, six hundred sixty eight trecentsexdecilliard, five hundred seventy six trecentsexdecillion, three hundred eighty four trecentquindecilliard, nineteen trecentquindecillion, five hundred ninety trecentquattuordecilliard, seven hundred twenty trecentquattuordecillion, one hundred seventy nine trecenttredecilliard, four hundred thirteen trecenttredecillion, three hundred forty nine trecentdodecilliard, five hundred eighty two trecentdodecillion, nine hundred seventy trecentundecilliard, three hundred nineteen trecentundecillion, three hundred ninety three trecentdecilliard, eight hundred eighty four trecentdecillion, three hundred eighty eight trecentnovemtilliard, eight hundred ten trecentnovemtillion, four hundred ninety four trecentoctotilliard, five hundred forty six trecentoctotillion, forty trecentseptentilliard, three hundred forty two trecentseptentillion, eighty seven trecentsextilliard, five hundred thirty six trecentsextillion, five hundred sixty three trecentquintilliard, six hundred twenty eight trecentquintillion, three hundred thirty two trecentquattuortilliard, one hundred fifty two trecentquattuortillion, seventy three trecenttretilliard, one hundred eighty one trecenttretillion, six hundred fourteen trecentdotilliard, three hundred trecentdotillion, seven hundred twenty one trecentuntilliard, seven hundred sixty nine trecentuntillion, three hundred seventy one trecentilliard, four hundred twenty six trecentillion, two hundred thirty eight ducentnovemnonagintilliard, five hundred seventeen ducentnovemnonagintillion, five hundred forty ducentoctononagintilliard, five hundred twenty ducentoctononagintillion, eight hundred forty five ducentseptennonagintilliard, two hundred fourteen ducentseptennonagintillion, six hundred sixty five ducentsexnonagintilliard, three hundred thirteen ducentsexnonagintillion, three hundred one ducentquinnonagintilliard, one hundred eighty three ducentquinnonagintillion, five hundred fifty one ducentquattuornonagintilliard, nine hundred sixty two ducentquattuornonagintillion, five hundred ninety one ducenttrenonagintilliard, eight hundred forty nine ducenttrenonagintillion, five hundred fifty eight ducentdononagintilliard, nine hundred thirty eight ducentdononagintillion, four hundred ninety nine ducentunnonagintilliard, twenty five ducentunnonagintillion, three hundred forty eight ducentnonagintilliard, seven hundred eighty ducentnonagintillion, three hundred seventy six ducentnovemoctogintilliard, seven hundred sixteen ducentnovemoctogintillion, four hundred seventy seven ducentoctooctogintilliard, seventy three ducentoctooctogintillion, nine hundred thirty ducentseptenoctogintilliard, six hundred thirty four ducentseptenoctogintillion, four hundred thirty six ducentsexoctogintilliard, eight hundred forty ducentsexoctogintillion, eighty four ducentquinoctogintilliard, four hundred sixty eight ducentquinoctogintillion, two hundred fifty five ducentquattuoroctogintilliard, nine hundred thirty seven ducentquattuoroctogintillion, four hundred forty three ducenttreoctogintilliard, four hundred fifty one ducenttreoctogintillion, six hundred ninety ducentdooctogintilliard, three hundred fifteen ducentdooctogintillion, nine hundred ninety nine ducentunoctogintilliard, three hundred forty nine ducentunoctogintillion, one hundred thirty seven ducentoctogintilliard, six hundred sixty four ducentoctogintillion, six hundred thirty eight ducentnovemseptuagintilliard, nine hundred sixty eight ducentnovemseptuagintillion, nine hundred seventy two ducentoctoseptuagintilliard, six hundred fourteen ducentoctoseptuagintillion, one hundred ninety nine ducentseptenseptuagintilliard, fifteen ducentseptenseptuagintillion, three hundred four ducentsexseptuagintilliard, nine hundred six ducentsexseptuagintillion, five hundred forty seven ducentquinseptuagintilliard, eight hundred nineteen ducentquinseptuagintillion, fifty six ducentquattuorseptuagintilliard, two hundred twenty seven ducentquattuorseptuagintillion, one hundred seventy one ducenttreseptuagintilliard, two hundred twenty four ducenttreseptuagintillion, nine hundred forty seven ducentdoseptuagintilliard, seventy ducentdoseptuagintillion, seven hundred thirty nine ducentunseptuagintilliard, seven hundred sixteen ducentunseptuagintillion, three hundred ducentseptuagintilliard, nine hundred fifty three ducentseptuagintillion, seven hundred seventy five ducentnovemsexagintilliard, seven hundred forty three ducentnovemsexagintillion, four hundred forty one ducentoctosexagintilliard, three hundred seven ducentoctosexagintillion, nine hundred twenty ducentseptensexagintilliard, five hundred one ducentseptensexagintillion, eight hundred sixty three ducentsexsexagintilliard, five hundred thirty two ducentsexsexagintillion, two hundred thirty four ducentquinsexagintilliard, four hundred sixty six ducentquinsexagintillion, five hundred forty five ducentquattuorsexagintilliard, six hundred forty five ducentquattuorsexagintillion, six hundred ninety five ducenttresexagintilliard, seven hundred seventy four ducenttresexagintillion, three hundred thirty one ducentdosexagintilliard, eight hundred eighty five ducentdosexagintillion, forty four ducentunsexagintilliard, nine hundred seventy eight ducentunsexagintillion, two hundred fifty ducentsexagintilliard, one hundred forty eight ducentsexagintillion, six hundred sixty three ducentnovemquinquagintilliard, four hundred sixty seven ducentnovemquinquagintillion, three hundred seventy two ducentoctoquinquagintilliard, one hundred thirty ducentoctoquinquagintillion, three hundred ninety two ducentseptenquinquagintilliard, ninety nine ducentseptenquinquagintillion, eight hundred ninety four ducentsexquinquagintilliard, eight hundred fifty two ducentsexquinquagintillion, one hundred forty five ducentquinquinquagintilliard, one hundred ninety ducentquinquinquagintillion, nine hundred ninety eight ducentquattuorquinquagintilliard, two hundred thirty two ducentquattuorquinquagintillion, eight hundred seventy eight ducenttrequinquagintilliard, seven hundred seventy two ducenttrequinquagintillion, four hundred eighty six ducentdoquinquagintilliard, six hundred fifty ducentdoquinquagintillion, five hundred thirteen ducentunquinquagintilliard, ten ducentunquinquagintillion, eight hundred sixteen ducentquinquagintilliard, seven hundred sixty nine ducentquinquagintillion, nine hundred two ducentnovemquadragintilliard, eight hundred ninety two ducentnovemquadragintillion, five hundred eighteen ducentoctoquadragintilliard, seven hundred nineteen ducentoctoquadragintillion, two hundred fifty ducentseptenquadragintilliard, sixty six ducentseptenquadragintillion, nine hundred forty seven ducentsexquadragintilliard, two hundred fifteen ducentsexquadragintillion, seven hundred six ducentquinquadragintilliard, five hundred thirty six ducentquinquadragintillion, two hundred sixteen ducentquattuorquadragintilliard, two hundred forty eight ducentquattuorquadragintillion, six hundred ninety six ducenttrequadragintilliard, two hundred forty ducenttrequadragintillion, five hundred sixty nine ducentdoquadragintilliard, two hundred fifty six ducentdoquadragintillion, eight hundred sixty five ducentunquadragintilliard, five hundred fifty four ducentunquadragintillion, two hundred ninety six ducentquadragintilliard, two hundred twenty one ducentquadragintillion, five hundred fifty two ducentnovemtrigintilliard, two hundred eleven ducentnovemtrigintillion, five hundred sixty ducentoctotrigintilliard, four hundred twenty seven ducentoctotrigintillion, seven hundred seventy eight ducentseptentrigintilliard, six hundred sixty two ducentseptentrigintillion, five hundred forty five ducentsextrigintilliard, nine hundred thirty six ducentsextrigintillion, nine hundred ninety eight ducentquintrigintilliard, eight hundred one ducentquintrigintillion, seventy ducentquattuortrigintilliard, one hundred eighty six ducentquattuortrigintillion, one hundred sixty two ducenttretrigintilliard, six hundred one ducenttretrigintillion, four hundred seventy six ducentdotrigintilliard, four hundred seventy four ducentdotrigintillion, two hundred ninety three ducentuntrigintilliard, four hundred fifty nine ducentuntrigintillion, eight hundred thirty ducenttrigintilliard, one hundred eighty three ducenttrigintillion, six hundred fifty one ducentnovemvigintilliard, two hundred seventy three ducentnovemvigintillion, three hundred sixty three ducentoctovigintilliard, four hundred sixty two ducentoctovigintillion, seven hundred thirty two ducentseptenvigintilliard, six hundred seventy five ducentseptenvigintillion, eight hundred eighty three ducentsexvigintilliard, sixty ducentsexvigintillion, seven hundred one ducentquinvigintilliard, four hundred ten ducentquinvigintillion, three hundred fifty nine ducentquattuorvigintilliard, two hundred fifty four ducentquattuorvigintillion, eight hundred twenty nine ducenttrevigintilliard, one hundred forty nine ducenttrevigintillion, seven hundred seventy four ducentdovigintilliard, three hundred thirty nine ducentdovigintillion, two hundred ninety seven ducentunvigintilliard, one hundred seventy three ducentunvigintillion, six hundred eighty ducentvigintilliard, seven hundred sixty five ducentvigintillion, six hundred ten ducentnovemdecilliard, nine hundred fifty nine ducentnovemdecillion, five hundred ninety nine ducentoctodecilliard, nine hundred eleven ducentoctodecillion, three hundred nine ducentseptendecilliard, one hundred eighty nine ducentseptendecillion, seven hundred eighty eight ducentsexdecilliard, two hundred thirty eight ducentsexdecillion, three hundred fifty ducentquindecilliard, one hundred thirty one ducentquindecillion, six hundred thirty five ducentquattuordecilliard, six hundred seventy two ducentquattuordecillion, six hundred sixty one ducenttredecilliard, four hundred thirty five ducenttredecillion, nine hundred sixty nine ducentdodecilliard, two hundred eighteen ducentdodecillion, two hundred thirty nine ducentundecilliard, nine hundred seventy seven ducentundecillion, one hundred ninety six ducentdecilliard, nine hundred thirty three ducentdecillion, eight hundred seventy four ducentnovemtilliard, three hundred ninety five ducentnovemtillion, four hundred three ducentoctotilliard, nine hundred ninety six ducentoctotillion, six hundred twenty three ducentseptentilliard, six hundred seventy five ducentseptentillion, five hundred eighty ducentsextilliard, five hundred twenty eight ducentsextillion, two hundred eleven ducentquintilliard, two hundred seven ducentquintillion, one hundred thirty six ducentquattuortilliard, three hundred ninety six ducentquattuortillion, three hundred seventy ducenttretilliard, eight hundred fifty eight ducenttretillion, fifty six ducentdotilliard, fifty one ducentdotillion, one hundred sixty ducentuntilliard, seven hundred eighty one ducentuntillion, seven hundred seventy ducentilliard, nine hundred eighty five ducentillion, four hundred fifty two centnovemnonagintilliard, five hundred seventy six centnovemnonagintillion, nine hundred eighty eight centoctononagintilliard, thirty two centoctononagintillion, three hundred thirty three centseptennonagintilliard, eight hundred twelve centseptennonagintillion, nine hundred thirty nine centsexnonagintilliard, two hundred seventy two centsexnonagintillion, seven hundred fifty two centquinnonagintilliard, one hundred one centquinnonagintillion, nine hundred forty four centquattuornonagintilliard, six hundred twenty nine centquattuornonagintillion, five hundred twenty seven centtrenonagintilliard, four hundred ninety centtrenonagintillion, three hundred thirteen centdononagintilliard, eight hundred thirty five centdononagintillion, five hundred fifty one centunnonagintilliard, nine hundred eighty five centunnonagintillion, one hundred ninety seven centnonagintilliard, ninety five centnonagintillion, nine hundred twenty eight centnovemoctogintilliard, eight hundred eighty five centnovemoctogintillion, two hundred thirty six centoctooctogintilliard, four hundred fifteen centoctooctogintillion, three hundred one centseptenoctogintilliard, seven hundred eighty nine centseptenoctogintillion, two hundred eighteen centsexoctogintilliard, six hundred seventy five centsexoctogintillion, one hundred forty one centquinoctogintilliard, fourteen centquinoctogintillion, five hundred forty one centquattuoroctogintilliard, two hundred three centquattuoroctogintillion, ninety six centtreoctogintilliard, one hundred ninety one centtreoctogintillion, two hundred seventy centdooctogintilliard, nine hundred thirty four centdooctogintillion, three hundred sixty nine centunoctogintilliard, thirty nine centunoctogintillion, five hundred twenty two centoctogintilliard, ninety eight centoctogintillion, two hundred eighty centnovemseptuagintilliard, three hundred seventeen centnovemseptuagintillion, six hundred sixty eight centoctoseptuagintilliard, nine hundred forty two centoctoseptuagintillion, sixty one centseptenseptuagintilliard, three hundred twenty five centseptenseptuagintillion, five hundred seventy two centsexseptuagintilliard, three hundred forty nine centsexseptuagintillion, six hundred forty three centquinseptuagintilliard, six hundred thirty eight centquinseptuagintillion, four hundred three centquattuorseptuagintilliard, fifty six centquattuorseptuagintillion, four hundred eighty seven centtreseptuagintilliard, three hundred forty nine centtreseptuagintillion, two hundred ninety centdoseptuagintilliard, eight hundred eighty four centdoseptuagintillion, two hundred twenty three centunseptuagintilliard, seven hundred eighty six centunseptuagintillion, two hundred ninety two centseptuagintilliard, eight hundred eighty seven centseptuagintillion, four hundred seventy two centnovemsexagintilliard, two hundred thirty one centnovemsexagintillion, two hundred nineteen centoctosexagintilliard, thirty two centoctosexagintillion, three hundred eighty five centseptensexagintilliard, two hundred eighty one centseptensexagintillion, thirty four centsexsexagintilliard, ninety one centsexsexagintillion, eight hundred twenty four centquinsexagintilliard, three hundred six centquinsexagintillion, six hundred eighteen centquattuorsexagintilliard, nine hundred forty seven centquattuorsexagintillion, seven hundred forty centtresexagintilliard, seven hundred twenty seven centtresexagintillion, two hundred sixty five centdosexagintilliard, five hundred twenty four centdosexagintillion, two hundred eighty four centunsexagintilliard, eight hundred ninety three centunsexagintillion, three hundred four centsexagintilliard, four hundred seventy four centsexagintillion, eight hundred sixty one centnovemquinquagintilliard, four hundred fifty four centnovemquinquagintillion, nine hundred forty two centoctoquinquagintilliard, seventy six centoctoquinquagintillion, seven hundred ninety nine centseptenquinquagintilliard, forty one centseptenquinquagintillion, seven hundred thirty nine centsexquinquagintilliard, four hundred forty seven centsexquinquagintillion, one hundred sixty five centquinquinquagintilliard, eight hundred thirty eight centquinquinquagintillion, two hundred eighty one centquattuorquinquagintilliard, six hundred seventy one centquattuorquinquagintillion, four hundred ten centtrequinquagintilliard, four hundred thirty five centtrequinquagintillion, eight hundred thirty one centdoquinquagintilliard, two hundred six centdoquinquagintillion, seven hundred ninety centunquinquagintilliard, five hundred one centunquinquagintillion, nine hundred fourteen centquinquagintilliard, five hundred twenty seven centquinquagintillion, three hundred twenty six centnovemquadragintilliard, two hundred eighty seven centnovemquadragintillion, three hundred seventy centoctoquadragintilliard, three hundred thirty nine centoctoquadragintillion, nine hundred seventy four centseptenquadragintilliard, seven hundred seven centseptenquadragintillion, two hundred six centsexquadragintilliard, sixteen centsexquadragintillion, eight hundred eighty two centquinquadragintilliard, five hundred sixty two centquinquadragintillion, eight hundred twenty seven centquattuorquadragintilliard, four hundred four centquattuorquadragintillion, two hundred seventy centtrequadragintilliard, one hundred seventy centtrequadragintillion, three hundred twenty two centdoquadragintilliard, six hundred six centdoquadragintillion, seven hundred twenty seven centunquadragintilliard, nine hundred eighty centunquadragintillion, three hundred forty three centquadragintilliard, four hundred seventy nine centquadragintillion, three hundred twenty six centnovemtrigintilliard, four hundred twenty five centnovemtrigintillion, seven hundred thirty centoctotrigintilliard, ninety one centoctotrigintillion, eight hundred thirty nine centseptentrigintilliard, eight hundred thirteen centseptentrigintillion, seventy seven centsextrigintilliard, seven hundred nineteen centsextrigintillion, three hundred twenty two centquintrigintilliard, four hundred fifty five centquintrigintillion, three hundred ninety four centquattuortrigintilliard, seven hundred sixty three centquattuortrigintillion, nine hundred sixty centtretrigintilliard, six hundred six centtretrigintillion, five hundred eighty eight centdotrigintilliard, two hundred fourteen centdotrigintillion, three hundred twenty six centuntrigintilliard, six hundred three centuntrigintillion, one hundred fifty six centtrigintilliard, one hundred forty one centtrigintillion, four hundred ninety centnovemvigintilliard, seven hundred forty centnovemvigintillion, five hundred fifty seven centoctovigintilliard, six hundred ninety eight centoctovigintillion, fifty five centseptenvigintilliard, one hundred sixty six centseptenvigintillion, two hundred sixty three centsexvigintilliard, forty four centsexvigintillion, four hundred forty seven centquinvigintilliard, five hundred eighty three centquinvigintillion, seven hundred fifty six centquattuorvigintilliard, seven hundred eleven centquattuorvigintillion, five hundred sixteen centtrevigintilliard, four hundred ninety centtrevigintillion, one hundred eighty one centdovigintilliard, one hundred ninety three centdovigintillion, four hundred forty two centunvigintilliard, two hundred thirty six centunvigintillion, eight hundred fifty nine centvigintilliard, four hundred twenty four centvigintillion, one hundred fifty one centnovemdecilliard, eight hundred forty three centnovemdecillion, seven hundred ninety five centoctodecilliard, three hundred eighty nine centoctodecillion, three hundred thirty five centseptendecilliard, seven hundred sixty five centseptendecillion, four hundred thirty two centsexdecilliard, one hundred twenty nine centsexdecillion, nine hundred forty four centquindecilliard, fifty four centquindecillion, eight hundred fifty five centquattuordecilliard, three hundred forty five centquattuordecillion, one hundred fifty five centtredecilliard, eight hundred fifty nine centtredecillion, two hundred seventy three centdodecilliard, four hundred twenty four centdodecillion, five hundred sixty one centundecilliard, eight hundred twenty five centundecillion, one hundred forty six centdecilliard, eight hundred thirteen centdecillion, seven hundred fourteen centnovemtilliard, seven hundred twenty centnovemtillion, six hundred six centoctotilliard, two hundred eighty seven centoctotillion, seven hundred eighty one centseptentilliard, twenty one centseptentillion, two hundred forty centsextilliard, nine hundred twenty three centsextillion, seven hundred eight centquintilliard, twenty one centquintillion, four hundred ninety two centquattuortilliard, two hundred ninety eight centquattuortillion, three hundred forty nine centtretilliard, six hundred thirty five centtretillion, one hundred seventy nine centdotilliard, five hundred twenty seven centdotillion, two hundred seventy centuntilliard, three hundred two centuntillion, nine hundred sixty two centilliard, nine hundred seventy centillion, one hundred fifty six novemnonagintilliard, nine hundred twenty seven novemnonagintillion, six hundred eighty six octononagintilliard, five hundred eleven octononagintillion, six hundred thirty five septennonagintilliard, fifty septennonagintillion, eighty sexnonagintilliard, four hundred seven sexnonagintillion, two hundred eighty two quinnonagintilliard, six hundred seventy four quinnonagintillion, two hundred fifty two quattuornonagintilliard, three hundred sixty two quattuornonagintillion, six hundred forty four trenonagintilliard, six hundred ninety five trenonagintillion, seven hundred ten dononagintilliard, seven hundred sixty nine dononagintillion, seven hundred sixty eight unnonagintilliard, eight hundred sixty six unnonagintillion, one hundred thirty seven nonagintilliard, three hundred two nonagintillion, seven hundred eighty nine novemoctogintilliard, three hundred thirteen novemoctogintillion, six hundred nine octooctogintilliard, six hundred seventy four octooctogintillion, three hundred eighty two septenoctogintilliard, seven hundred nineteen septenoctogintillion, seventeen sexoctogintilliard, three hundred eighty five sexoctogintillion, five hundred eight quinoctogintilliard, four hundred eighty four quinoctogintillion, six hundred sixty three quattuoroctogintilliard, three hundred seventy three quattuoroctogintillion, four hundred seventy six treoctogintilliard, one hundred twenty treoctogintillion, eight hundred forty three dooctogintilliard, five hundred sixty seven dooctogintillion, nine hundred eighty three unoctogintilliard, sixty five unoctogintillion, fifty nine octogintilliard, five hundred fifty eight octogintillion, seventy two novemseptuagintilliard, nine hundred thirty five novemseptuagintillion, one hundred ten octoseptuagintilliard, six hundred thirty seven octoseptuagintillion, five hundred forty four septenseptuagintilliard, two hundred forty septenseptuagintillion, eight hundred seven sexseptuagintilliard, three hundred fifty sexseptuagintillion, six hundred sixty seven quinseptuagintilliard, eighty two quinseptuagintillion, nine hundred eighty seven quattuorseptuagintilliard, two hundred thirty three quattuorseptuagintillion, seven hundred seventy nine treseptuagintilliard, seven hundred sixty eight treseptuagintillion, eight hundred seventy four doseptuagintilliard, nine hundred thirty eight doseptuagintillion, nine hundred 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six novemquinquagintilliard, one hundred forty seven novemquinquagintillion, two hundred sixty seven octoquinquagintilliard, nine hundred ninety nine octoquinquagintillion, seven hundred sixty two septenquinquagintilliard, four hundred ninety six septenquinquagintillion, seven hundred nine sexquinquagintilliard, eight hundred fifty two sexquinquagintillion, seven hundred sixty nine quinquinquagintilliard, five hundred three quinquinquagintillion, five hundred thirty five quattuorquinquagintilliard, seven hundred thirty three quattuorquinquagintillion, nine hundred twenty four trequinquagintilliard, four hundred sixteen trequinquagintillion, two hundred two doquinquagintilliard, six hundred fifty seven doquinquagintillion, seven hundred twenty unquinquagintilliard, seven hundred forty one unquinquagintillion, two hundred forty eight quinquagintilliard, six hundred eighty three quinquagintillion, five hundred ninety two novemquadragintilliard, two hundred two novemquadragintillion, eight hundred twenty eight octoquadragintilliard, nine hundred eighty three octoquadragintillion, three hundred eleven septenquadragintilliard, one hundred forty septenquadragintillion, eight hundred thirty three sexquadragintilliard, nine hundred twenty three sexquadragintillion, three hundred two quinquadragintilliard, four hundred thirty three quinquadragintillion, nine hundred seventeen quattuorquadragintilliard, seven hundred ninety seven quattuorquadragintillion, nine hundred seventy six trequadragintilliard, nine hundred ninety trequadragintillion, three hundred eleven doquadragintilliard, four hundred twenty five doquadragintillion, eight hundred forty three unquadragintilliard, six hundred nineteen unquadragintillion, three hundred fifty quadragintilliard, nine hundred thirty six quadragintillion, seven hundred fifty four novemtrigintilliard, four hundred eighty three novemtrigintillion, eight hundred eleven octotrigintilliard, one hundred ninety four octotrigintillion, four hundred eight septentrigintilliard, eight hundred twelve septentrigintillion, seven hundred sixty three sextrigintilliard, three hundred eighty eight sextrigintillion, eighty four quintrigintilliard, two hundred four quintrigintillion, four hundred fifty one quattuortrigintilliard, eight hundred four quattuortrigintillion, nine hundred twelve tretrigintilliard, four hundred fifty four tretrigintillion, three hundred eighty three dotrigintilliard, eight hundred eighty four dotrigintillion, one hundred eighty untrigintilliard, eight hundred untrigintillion, nine hundred forty five trigintilliard, two hundred seventy five trigintillion, six hundred twenty six novemvigintilliard, six hundred sixty eight novemvigintillion, fifty seven octovigintilliard, six hundred twenty eight octovigintillion, nine hundred fifty four septenvigintilliard, seven hundred sixty three septenvigintillion, three hundred eighty four sexvigintilliard, six hundred forty one sexvigintillion, three hundred five quinvigintilliard, one hundred seven quinvigintillion, seven hundred fifty three quattuorvigintilliard, seven hundred seventy three quattuorvigintillion, two hundred forty seven trevigintilliard, eighty two trevigintillion, four hundred ninety five dovigintilliard, eight hundred four dovigintillion, five hundred thirty three unvigintilliard, three hundred fifty five unvigintillion, seven hundred seventeen vigintilliard, four hundred eighty one vigintillion, nine hundred sixty five novemdecilliard, twenty five novemdecillion, seventy octodecilliard, eight hundred nineteen octodecillion, seven hundred thirty septendecilliard, four hundred sixty six septendecillion, four hundred twenty two sexdecilliard, eight hundred twenty six sexdecillion, one hundred five quindecilliard, six hundred ninety seven quindecillion, five hundred ten quattuordecilliard, five hundred sixty four quattuordecillion, two hundred eighty nine tredecilliard, seven hundred ninety eight tredecillion, nine hundred fifty one dodecilliard, one hundred eighty two dodecillion, one hundred ninety two undecilliard, eight hundred eighty five undecillion, nine hundred seventy six decilliard, three hundred fifty two decillion, two hundred twenty nine nonilliard, fifty three nonillion, eight hundred ninety eight octilliard, nine hundred forty eight octillion, seven hundred thirty seven septilliard, six hundred fourteen septillion, six hundred forty two sextilliard, one hundred thirty nine sextillion, nine hundred ten quintilliard, nine hundred eleven quintillion, five hundred thirty five quadrilliard, eight hundred sixty four quadrillion, five hundred five trilliard, eight hundred eighteen trillion, nine hundred ninety two billiard, six hundred ninety six billion, eight hundred twenty six milliard, two hundred twenty five million, seven hundred fifty four thousand, one hundred eleven

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spazoid12 (525450) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994137)

hahaha. That one is pretty funny, too. Oh man, I wish I were the only one with mod points to correctly score these. Somebody is being far too sensitive... often, a trollish flamebait is appropriate and funny. here's one.

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Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4994151)

four quadringentsexoctogintillion, seven hundred eighty two quadringentquinoctogintilliard

Shut the fuck up you stupid fucking limey.

Leave it to the fucking Brits, after a thousand years of continuous civilization, to still have trouble with the decimal system.

These types of stories need MORE publicity (4, Insightful)

ThresholdRPG (310239) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994067)

This is the kind of stuff that threatens to GUT one of the most important benefits of the internet. The ability to ridicule a company or government for things it has done to cause real harm to others is quite possibly one of the most important types of freedom of expression.

It is absolutely vital to the continued existence of the internet as a medium of free speech that large corporations are NOT allowed to squelch opinions that do not cast them in a favorable light.

There is, however, a place where the line should be drawn. When creators of parody sites or critical sites start publishing people's real life names, home addresses, and other personal information against their will, then they have gone to far. At that point, they are putting actual people and their families at risk. When you create a parody or critical web site, you do not know what kind of people will visit the site. Some of the people who visit the site may be very unstable individuals capable of all sorts of terrible things. For a host of reasons, they might decide to utilize the personal information in order to cause real physical harm to the person being criticised or that person's family.

Perhaps the web site riled up their anger, or perhaps they thought the site was so amusing that they want to "thank" the creators by going out and causing real harm to the targets of the web site. This kind of stuff DOES happen folks, so don't blow it off as mere paranoia.

The reason I even bring up this issue is because of this part of the article:

> "We even put down James Parker's real home
> address! Very funny, right? Yes! Funny!"
> the Yes Men said in a statement.

Actually no, that is not funny. The only funny part about that was that James Parker was able to seize the domain name by presenting his drivers license and proof that he was the James Parker in question. ;p

> "But on Dec. 4, James Parker himself, with the
> help of a team of Dow lawyers, sent a Xerox of
> his driver's license and a letter by FedEx to
> Gandi.net, saying, basically, "This domain
> belongs to me. See, that's my home address,
> too. Give it to me!"
>
> According to rules established by the Internet
> Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers --
> an organization responsible for, among other
> chores, Internet address disputes -- Parker was
> correct and Gandi.net had no legal choice but
> to hand over Dow-Chemical.com to James Parker.

That part I find absolutely hilarious =).

So while it is absolutely IMPERATIVE that governments and corporations NOT be allowed to squelch parody sites or sites that are critical of their behavior, it is equally important that the creators of such sites be prevented from distributing personal information about individuals.

The dangers inherent in the former put our freedoms at risk, just as the dangers inherent in the latter put lives at risk.

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Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4994078)

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is mersenne prime #21

Do not pass go, do not collect $200 (3, Insightful)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994081)

I think for once, the parody artists have gone too far and I have to line up on the side of the big business.

Even the /. poster admits that he got fooled into thinking the "response" from Dow was really from The Yes Men. That's over the line. It's one thing to be critical of Dow's actions, but it's another thing all together to confuse people into thinking you are Dow while making statements that Dow doesn't want make.

Yeah, Dow was a little underhanded to make the phone call after business hours, but The Thing could have blocked that trick simply by having a 24/7 answering service and an admin with a beeper. It's hard for them to try to claim that they aren't responsible for striking a website when they are told that what the site owners are doing is against the law, and I don't see why doing exactly what they were doing should be legal.

Re:Do not pass go, do not collect $200 (2)

Fastolfe (1470) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994105)

I agree.. the parody site and press release were a little too convincing. They either needed to go a little further with the site and the release so that it was obvious, or add a disclaimer.

While some (most?) of us could probably tell that it was a parody anyway (or at least be suspicious that it was), we're in the minority here. It needs to be obvious to the layperson.

Re:Do not pass go, do not collect $200 (5, Insightful)

Tom (822) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994122)

The entire point of the Yes Man's actions has always been that it is confused with the real thing. They've done a couple things that make you really think about it, and they could only do it the way they did.

If corporations have free speech, why can't the Yes Men? Honestly, what's the worse crime - poisoning a couple thousand people, or impersonating someone who isn't even a person?

Re:Do not pass go, do not collect $200 (3, Insightful)

Twirlip of the Mists (615030) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994175)

There is a line between parody and fraud. It's obvious that the group in question went out of their way to make their site look as much like an official Dow site as possible in order to defame Dow Chemical. That's not parody. That's intentional misrepresentation.

Free speech does not give you the right to say whatever you want and damned be the consequences. It doesn't work that way.

Honestly, what's the worse crime - poisoning a couple thousand people, or impersonating someone who isn't even a person?

Ah, the classic "But they started it!" defense. That always works so well in the courts.

Re:Do not pass go, do not collect $200 (2)

rking (32070) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994291)

Agreed, they even put the kind of totally outrageous statements that only a corporation run by people with no sense of morality could make. How could anyone be expected to distinguish this from the real Dow Chemical?

Re:Do not pass go, do not collect $200 (2)

Henry V .009 (518000) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994313)

Have you ever seen "just kidding" notices on the Onion? Goddamn, but a lot of people get fooled by the Onion. I've seen articles about how the mainstream press picks up on it every now and then. So, since the Onion goes out of its way to make its articles look real (hint: that's why they're funny), the Onion should be sued?

If you want the courts to step in here based on the "some people will be fooled" line, that is a very slippery slope.

Re:Do not pass go, do not collect $200 (3, Interesting)

MrHanky (141717) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994324)

There is a line between parody and fraud. It's obvious that the group in question went out of their way to make their site look as much like an official Dow site as possible in order to defame Dow Chemical. That's not parody. That's intentional misrepresentation.
It might be argued that Dow are misrepresenting themselves, and that The Yes-Men are helping Dow to express more truthfully what they stand for. Not that this matters at all. All these pranks are meant to last for some time, then get a lot of attention as the corporation sends their army of lawyers, then closed down. But some still work, like gatt.org [wto.org] , a parody of wto.org [gatt.org] . They are so alike that I almost don't see the difference myself. This one's been up for more than a year.

You have to be joking (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4994128)

One needs to read only a few lines of "Dow's" response to realize that it's just a very well done frameup, and by the time you're into the 2nd and 3rd paragraphs it's hard to keep from gagging in hysterics.

You can't be serious that anyone would really think that this geniunely came from Dow. Come on.

Re:You have to be joking (2)

EvanED (569694) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994272)

Look over this site; I've seen easily half a dozen people who were taken *and posted the dowethics site as an actuial dow release*. I cannot claim innocence here; I was fooled as well. Now, I found it incredible that anyone--even Dow--would come up with that release seriously, but until someone replied saying it was the parody site, that didn't even cross my mind.

Re:Do not pass go, do not collect $200 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4994246)

Possibly there should be two versions of the site, an American version with "THIS IS A PARODY" blinking across the screen, and with the references to DDT, to financial considerations outweighing taking responsibility for a disaster in which thousands die because of financial considerations etc. underlined, and an international verion for countries not populated by drooling imbeciles.

Corporate Freedom of Speech .... (2, Interesting)

dougmc (70836) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994087)

Corporate Freedom of Speech [google.com] only shows up 42 times in google (web) and only 8 [google.com] times in google groups.

Yet according to Dow's press release, Corporate Freedom of Speech is one of our most precious Freedoms [dowethics.com] .

Obviously it's one of those freedoms that nobody except Dow talks about. (In fact, many of the google links are about Dow.)

Of course, the troubling part is that obviously it's more important than `generic' Freedom of Speech. At least according to Dow.

Their press release alone reads like a parody. I really hope it is. And if it's not, I hope they get spanked hard for it.

Re:Corporate Freedom of Speech .... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4994096)

OMG. You don't see that it is a parody ?

This means that in 10 years it could be real, you would probably not protest....

Re:Corporate Freedom of Speech .... (1)

delfstrom (205488) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994109)

The entire dowethics.com [dowethics.com] website is a parody. The submitter of the slashdot story itself says that he got taken in by it. Obviously you did, too.

Re:Corporate Freedom of Speech .... (2)

dougmc (70836) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994159)

Obviously you did, too.
Obviously I did.

Had I just found it by itself, I'd have attributed it to parody (I did mention that it reads like a parody, after all), but the /. story *said* it was from Dow --

What really sent me into orbit was Dow's response to all of this
and I took that at it's word. Perhaps I should have made a New Years Resolution to not take people I don't know at their word, especially when it just looks wrong.

Which makes it a very good parody indeed -- not just from The Yes Men, but also from the user `michael' on Slashdot. He told us that this was from Dow, and since we're all ready (me too) to believe that the mighty Corporation is out to get us, I believed him, even though it was somewhat absurd.

Let's hope that Dow doesn't get *too* sue-happy over this -- now they could go after michael too.

I don't see where the DMCA comes into play here, but there's still plenty of other things that Dow could use to make The Yes Men and michael's life unpleasant.

Re:Corporate Freedom of Speech .... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4994184)

Dude, you really need to work on those reading comprehension skills.

Re:Corporate Freedom of Speech .... (2)

Doppleganger (66109) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994192)

What really sent me into orbit was Dow's response to all of this. While writing this submission I noticed that I have become a victim of The Yes Men and "Dow's" response is actually one of their parodies!

Perhaps you should have made a New Year's Resolution to raise your reading comprehension.

Especially since you somehow think michael told you anything was from Dow, when the Slashdot article clearly states that tres3 was the writer... the only portion not quoted from tres3 is the last seven words: "We did an earlier story on this."

Re:Corporate Freedom of Speech .... (2)

dougmc (70836) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994223)

Ok then ...
Posted by michael [mailto] on Wednesday January 01, @11:31AM
from the no-sense-of-humor dept.
tres3 [mailto] writes "I stumbled across this
(that didn't quite quote correctly. Oh well.)

I went after the bold stuff. A simple enough mistake. Still, I'd suggest changing the format ... what's more important -- that michael posted this, or tres3 actually wrote it?

My reading comprehension is fine, when I apply it properly. A better resolution would be to remember to double (and triple) check everything before I make silly mistakes in public. I've made a few so far, and the year is only a few hours old :)

Re:Corporate Freedom of Speech .... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4994285)

A corporation is not a natural person. It is a legal fiction. A corporation should have none of the rights extended to real people.

And this was true until 1886 when the US Supreme Court, using the fairly recently enacted 14th Amendment to the Constitution (the amendment that says any person is equal to any other person) decided for no apparent reason that a corporation is a person, too. This decision (Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad Company [118 U.S. 394 (1886)]) had no basis in precedent and, in fact, ran counter to previous rulings by the Court.

Since that time corporations have gained the same rights as the rest of us but without the responsibilities. Corporations can commit crimes, but never go to jail (maybe an officer or two, but never the corporation). Corporations are immortal and never even have to think about paying inheritance taxes. Corporations can earn large incomes but not pay taxes (they get to write off things real persons can't). Corporations can avoid or minimize state taxes by incorporating in certain states (e.g. Delaware) or by simply moving their place of incorporation offshore (e.g. Bermuda).

Would you like to be able to avoid taxes by simply erasing the place of birth on your birth certificate and changing it to Bermuda while retaining all the rights and privileges of US citizenship.

Me too.

But, did you know the net is only for commerce? (5, Interesting)

tizzyD (577098) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994107)

(If anyone says "who cares," when they dump the chemicals in your neighborhood and your kid is born with flippers, realize that the great wheel has come full cirle. You get back what you deserve!)

What gets me here is that, get this, from Dow's own web site:
The provider, Verio, graciously complied with our letter citing the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA). Not only did they shut down Dow-Chemical.com, but as a good corporate citizen, they agreed to shut down an entire network (Thing.net) of websites many of which, while unrelated to dow-chemical.com, appear to serve no commercial purpose, being dedicated to the unproductive analysis and critique of society and corporate behaviour.
Yep, that's right, sports fans. If you serve no commercial purpose, you have no right to exist. Such corporate arrogance is horrid. In true W-esque fashion, unless you consume, you're worthless. What do these guys want? Web sites for companies only? What a yawn that would be. Remember the article a while back, noting that the web has been growing in capabilities and innovation not by big corporate bozo's but by, yep, web porn. We may not like it, but those sleazy guys are the ones Dow can sell fiber in the first place!

Lastly, I am so pleased to have Dow no inform me as to the unproductive analysis and critique that Thing.net was providing. Before, I considered it merely satire or commentary. Now I see what it truly was . . . a communist plot to keep Dow from cleaning our water and preserving our precious bodily fluids. Thanks Dow!

SHEEP COUNT (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4994116)

four whatthefucktillion, seven hundred eighty two quadringentquinoctogintilliard, two hundred two quadringentquinoctogintillion, seven hundred eighty eight quadringentquattuoroctogintilliard, fifty four quadringentquattuoroctogintillion, six hundred twelve quadringenttreoctogintilliard, twenty nine quadringenttreoctogintillion, five hundred twenty eight quadringentdooctogintilliard, three hundred ninety two quadringentdooctogintillion, nine hundred eighty six quadringentunoctogintilliard, six hundred quadringentunoctogintillion, fifty nine quadringentoctogintilliard, ninety seven quadringentoctogintillion, four hundred fourteen quadringentnovemseptuagintilliard, nine hundred seventy one quadringentnovemseptuagintillion, seven hundred twenty four quadringentoctoseptuagintilliard, twenty two quadringentoctoseptuagintillion, three hundred sixty five quadringentseptenseptuagintilliard, eight quadringentseptenseptuagintillion, five hundred thirteen quadringentsexseptuagintilliard, three hundred forty five quadringentsexseptuagintillion, one hundred nine quadringentquinseptuagintilliard, nine hundred eighteen quadringentquinseptuagintillion, three hundred seventy eight quadringentquattuorseptuagintilliard, nine hundred fifty quadringentquattuorseptuagintillion, nine hundred forty two quadringenttreseptuagintilliard, six hundred sixty two quadringenttreseptuagintillion, nine hundred seventy quadringentdoseptuagintilliard, two hundred seventy eight quadringentdoseptuagintillion, nine hundred twenty seven quadringentunseptuagintilliard, six hundred eighty six quadringentunseptuagintillion, one hundred twelve quadringentseptuagintilliard, seven hundred seven quadringentseptuagintillion, eight hundred ninety four quadringentnovemsexagintilliard, five hundred eighty six quadringentnovemsexagintillion, eight hundred twenty four quadringentoctosexagintilliard, seven hundred twenty quadringentoctosexagintillion, nine hundred eighty one quadringentseptensexagintilliard, five hundred twenty four quadringentseptensexagintillion, two hundred fifty six quadringentsexsexagintilliard, three hundred nineteen quadringentsexsexagintillion, three hundred six quadringentquinsexagintilliard, five hundred eighty five quadringentquinsexagintillion, fifty two quadringentquattuorsexagintilliard, six hundred seventy six quadringentquattuorsexagintillion, eight hundred thirty four quadringenttresexagintilliard, eighty seven quadringenttresexagintillion, four hundred eighty quadringentdosexagintilliard, eight hundred thirty four quadringentdosexagintillion, four hundred twenty nine quadringentunsexagintilliard, four hundred thirty three quadringentunsexagintillion, two hundred sixty four quadringentsexagintilliard, seven hundred ninety seven quadringentsexagintillion, four hundred twenty five quadringentnovemquinquagintilliard, eight hundred ninety three quadringentnovemquinquagintillion, two hundred forty seven quadringentoctoquinquagintilliard, six hundred twenty three quadringentoctoquinquagintillion, six hundred eighty eight quadringentseptenquinquagintilliard, three hundred thirty one quadringentseptenquinquagintillion, twenty one quadringentsexquinquagintilliard, six hundred thirty three quadringentsexquinquagintillion, two hundred eight quadringentquinquinquagintilliard, nine hundred fifty four quadringentquinquinquagintillion, eight hundred forty seven quadringentquattuorquinquagintilliard, three hundred fifty four quadringentquattuorquinquagintillion, eight hundred five quadringenttrequinquagintilliard, seven hundred ninety nine quadringenttrequinquagintillion, nine hundred forty three quadringentdoquinquagintilliard, three hundred forty one quadringentdoquinquagintillion, three hundred nine quadringentunquinquagintilliard, eight hundred twenty five quadringentunquinquagintillion, nine hundred eighty nine quadringentquinquagintilliard, thirteen quadringentquinquagintillion, seven hundred forty three quadringentnovemquadragintilliard, eight hundred six quadringentnovemquadragintillion, one hundred eighty seven quadringentoctoquadragintilliard, one hundred nine quadringentoctoquadragintillion, five hundred eighty one quadringentseptenquadragintilliard, forty three quadringentseptenquadragintillion, one hundred forty eight quadringentsexquadragintilliard, six hundred eighty quadringentsexquadragintillion, eight hundred thirteen quadringentquinquadragintilliard, seven hundred seventy eight quadringentquinquadragintillion, three hundred twenty one quadringentquattuorquadragintilliard, five hundred thirty quadringentquattuorquadragintillion, four hundred ninety six quadringenttrequadragintilliard, seven hundred fifteen quadringenttrequadragintillion, six hundred one quadringentdoquadragintilliard, five hundred sixty three quadringentdoquadragintillion, two hundred eighty two quadringentunquadragintilliard, six hundred twenty four quadringentunquadragintillion, four hundred fourteen quadringentquadragintilliard, forty quadringentquadragintillion, three hundred ninety eight quadringentnovemtrigintilliard, one hundred forty three quadringentnovemtrigintillion, two hundred seven quadringentoctotrigintilliard, six hundred twenty two quadringentoctotrigintillion, thirty six quadringentseptentrigintilliard, two hundred seventy two quadringentseptentrigintillion, one hundred ninety quadringentsextrigintilliard, four hundred eight quadringentsextrigintillion, five hundred ninety quadringentquintrigintilliard, seven hundred ninety quadringentquintrigintillion, five hundred thirty seven quadringentquattuortrigintilliard, two hundred three quadringentquattuortrigintillion, four hundred seventy five quadringenttretrigintilliard, two hundred fifty six quadringenttretrigintillion, one hundred five quadringentdotrigintilliard, five hundred sixty four quadringentdotrigintillion, seventy one quadringentuntrigintilliard, five hundred seventy nine quadringentuntrigintillion, two hundred sixty three quadringenttrigintilliard, eight hundred sixty seven quadringenttrigintillion, eight hundred seventy five quadringentnovemvigintilliard, two hundred forty quadringentnovemvigintillion, nine hundred eighty five quadringentoctovigintilliard, five hundred seventy three quadringentoctovigintillion, three hundred fifty six quadringentseptenvigintilliard, five hundred twenty two quadringentseptenvigintillion, six hundred fifty six quadringentsexvigintilliard, one hundred eight quadringentsexvigintillion, five hundred forty two quadringentquinvigintilliard, one hundred twenty eight quadringentquinvigintillion, five hundred seventy seven quadringentquattuorvigintilliard, three hundred twenty one quadringentquattuorvigintillion, fifty seven quadringenttrevigintilliard, eight hundred seventy nine quadringenttrevigintillion, fifty two quadringentdovigintilliard, three hundred twenty eight quadringentdovigintillion, eight hundred sixty five quadringentunvigintilliard, thirty five quadringentunvigintillion, three hundred fifty five quadringentvigintilliard, eight hundred seventy three quadringentvigintillion, six hundred fifteen quadringentnovemdecilliard, six hundred seventy nine quadringentnovemdecillion, three hundred sixty three quadringentoctodecilliard, six hundred fifty five quadringentoctodecillion, eight hundred eighty nine quadringentseptendecilliard, nine hundred twenty five quadringentseptendecillion, seven hundred eleven quadringentsexdecilliard, five hundred seventy four quadringentsexdecillion, four hundred twenty quadringentquindecilliard, one hundred fifty three quadringentquindecillion, eight hundred thirty two quadringentquattuordecilliard, ninety one quadringentquattuordecillion, seven hundred fifty two quadringenttredecilliard, four hundred twenty two quadringenttredecillion, eight hundred forty three quadringentdodecilliard, forty six quadringentdodecillion, nine hundred eighteen quadringentundecilliard, eight hundred eleven quadringentundecillion, four hundred twenty seven quadringentdecilliard, four hundred quadringentdecillion, six hundred sixty two quadringentnovemtilliard, one hundred thirty five quadringentnovemtillion, five hundred fifty nine quadringentoctotilliard, three hundred three quadringentoctotillion, five hundred sixteen quadringentseptentilliard, eight hundred fifty three quadringentseptentillion, seven hundred three quadringentsextilliard, nine hundred seventy six quadringentsextillion, eight hundred twelve quadringentquintilliard, six hundred eighty six quadringentquintillion, three hundred eighty five quadringentquattuortilliard, seven hundred fifty quadringentquattuortillion, three hundred seventy six quadringenttretilliard, two hundred twenty seven quadringenttretillion, seven hundred eighty seven quadringentdotilliard, nine hundred forty nine quadringentdotillion, five hundred eighty quadringentuntilliard, five hundred eighty two quadringentuntillion, eighty one quadringentilliard, eight hundred thirty one quadringentillion, two hundred sixty one trecentnovemnonagintilliard, seven hundred twenty five trecentnovemnonagintillion, seven hundred one trecentoctononagintilliard, three trecentoctononagintillion, four hundred ninety eight trecentseptennonagintilliard, two hundred six trecentseptennonagintillion, five hundred twelve trecentsexnonagintilliard, three hundred twenty nine trecentsexnonagintillion, eight hundred seventy two trecentquinnonagintilliard, six hundred seventy seven trecentquinnonagintillion, two hundred thirty three trecentquattuornonagintilliard, four hundred eighty nine trecentquattuornonagintillion, five hundred ten trecenttrenonagintilliard, nine hundred fifty three trecenttrenonagintillion, four hundred sixty nine trecentdononagintilliard, three hundred seventy five trecentdononagintillion, six hundred eighty three trecentunnonagintilliard, thirty seven trecentunnonagintillion, thirty eight trecentnonagintilliard, three hundred seventy three trecentnonagintillion, nine hundred ninety nine trecentnovemoctogintilliard, six hundred ninety six trecentnovemoctogintillion, seven hundred seventy one trecentoctooctogintilliard, five hundred eighty five trecentoctooctogintillion, seven hundred eighty eight trecentseptenoctogintilliard, nine hundred five trecentseptenoctogintillion, six hundred thirty nine trecentsexoctogintilliard, one hundred fifteen trecentsexoctogintillion, five hundred twenty two trecentquinoctogintilliard, six hundred thirteen trecentquinoctogintillion, four hundred five trecentquattuoroctogintilliard, four hundred ninety five trecentquattuoroctogintillion, seven hundred seven trecenttreoctogintilliard, one hundred eighty four trecenttreoctogintillion, five hundred twenty four trecentdooctogintilliard, one hundred fifty eight trecentdooctogintillion, two hundred nineteen trecentunoctogintilliard, two hundred eight trecentunoctogintillion, two hundred twenty three trecentoctogintilliard, seven hundred sixty six trecentoctogintillion, four hundred forty two trecentnovemseptuagintilliard, fifty nine trecentnovemseptuagintillion, fourteen trecentoctoseptuagintilliard, five hundred ninety three trecentoctoseptuagintillion, three hundred thirty trecentseptenseptuagintilliard, six hundred fifty seven trecentseptenseptuagintillion, nine trecentsexseptuagintilliard, seven hundred twenty two trecentsexseptuagintillion, one hundred fifty three trecentquinseptuagintilliard, nine hundred sixty two trecentquinseptuagintillion, three hundred seventy six trecentquattuorseptuagintilliard, eight hundred fifty three trecentquattuorseptuagintillion, four hundred twenty three trecenttreseptuagintilliard, seven hundred seventy trecenttreseptuagintillion, four hundred eighty six trecentdoseptuagintilliard, one hundred thirty eight trecentdoseptuagintillion, five hundred seventy eight trecentunseptuagintilliard, eighty nine trecentunseptuagintillion, seven hundred seventy five trecentseptuagintilliard, six hundred twenty one trecentseptuagintillion, three hundred one trecentnovemsexagintilliard, one hundred sixty seven trecentnovemsexagintillion, eight hundred eleven trecentoctosexagintilliard, two hundred ninety nine trecentoctosexagintillion, one hundred sixty six trecentseptensexagintilliard, four hundred seven trecentseptensexagintillion, three hundred sixty one trecentsexsexagintilliard, seven hundred forty six trecentsexsexagintillion, six hundred six trecentquinsexagintilliard, six hundred ninety seven trecentquinsexagintillion, eight hundred eight trecentquattuorsexagintilliard, one hundred eighty six trecentquattuorsexagintillion, seven hundred fifty seven trecenttresexagintilliard, nine hundred sixty six trecenttresexagintillion, nine hundred fourteen trecentdosexagintilliard, six hundred seventy one trecentdosexagintillion, two hundred forty six trecentunsexagintilliard, seventy three trecentunsexagintillion, seven hundred twelve trecentsexagintilliard, nine hundred four trecentsexagintillion, two hundred trecentnovemquinquagintilliard, five hundred eighty eight trecentnovemquinquagintillion, four hundred eight trecentoctoquinquagintilliard, nine hundred twenty three trecentoctoquinquagintillion, one hundred eighty six trecentseptenquinquagintilliard, three hundred eighty seven trecentseptenquinquagintillion, seven hundred thirty seven trecentsexquinquagintilliard, eight hundred eighty seven trecentsexquinquagintillion, six hundred seventy five trecentquinquinquagintilliard, two hundred ninety two trecentquinquinquagintillion, eight hundred eighty six trecentquattuorquinquagintilliard, nine hundred fifty three trecentquattuorquinquagintillion, seven hundred ninety seven trecenttrequinquagintilliard, sixty six trecenttrequinquagintillion, nine hundred eighty trecentdoquinquagintilliard, nine hundred sixty seven trecentdoquinquagintillion, four hundred six trecentunquinquagintilliard, fifty three trecentunquinquagintillion, five hundred thirty trecentquinquagintilliard, one hundred twenty two trecentquinquagintillion, eight hundred fifty three trecentnovemquadragintilliard, five hundred thirty nine trecentnovemquadragintillion, thirty six trecentoctoquadragintilliard, nine hundred sixty five trecentoctoquadragintillion, four hundred ninety trecentseptenquadragintilliard, two hundred twenty four trecentseptenquadragintillion, seven hundred eighty four trecentsexquadragintilliard, nine hundred twenty four trecentsexquadragintillion, six hundred forty nine trecentquinquadragintilliard, seven trecentquinquadragintillion, nine hundred fifty four trecentquattuorquadragintilliard, eight hundred ninety eight trecentquattuorquadragintillion, six hundred seventy eight trecenttrequadragintilliard, five hundred three trecenttrequadragintillion, three hundred fourteen trecentdoquadragintilliard, six hundred fifty five trecentdoquadragintillion, five hundred forty six trecentunquadragintilliard, four hundred seventy five trecentunquadragintillion, five hundred four trecentquadragintilliard, five hundred one trecentquadragintillion, six hundred eighty six trecentnovemtrigintilliard, one hundred eighty seven trecentnovemtrigintillion, three hundred fifty four trecentoctotrigintilliard, eight hundred sixty six trecentoctotrigintillion, nine hundred sixty four trecentseptentrigintilliard, three hundred seventy four trecentseptentrigintillion, five hundred fifty two trecentsextrigintilliard, six hundred fourteen trecentsextrigintillion, one hundred twenty trecentquintrigintilliard, six hundred forty trecentquintrigintillion, seven hundred eighty two trecentquattuortrigintilliard, nine hundred forty nine trecentquattuortrigintillion, six hundred twenty two trecenttretrigintilliard, four hundred fifty two trecenttretrigintillion, twenty seven trecentdotrigintilliard, seven hundred eighty eight trecentdotrigintillion, nine hundred sixty two trecentuntrigintilliard, one hundred thirty eight trecentuntrigintillion, six hundred two trecenttrigintilliard, six hundred sixty five trecenttrigintillion, nine hundred thirty three trecentnovemvigintilliard, one hundred forty seven trecentnovemvigintillion, six hundred eighty seven trecentoctovigintilliard, six hundred ninety six trecentoctovigintillion, three hundred twenty two trecentseptenvigintilliard, eighty nine trecentseptenvigintillion, five hundred four trecentsexvigintilliard, two hundred seventy eight trecentsexvigintillion, seven hundred ninety one trecentquinvigintilliard, six hundred twenty four trecentquinvigintillion, six hundred fifty one trecentquattuorvigintilliard, five hundred nineteen trecentquattuorvigintillion, three hundred twelve trecenttrevigintilliard, three hundred twenty seven trecenttrevigintillion, eight hundred thirty one trecentdovigintilliard, seven hundred fifty six trecentdovigintillion, five hundred fifty three trecentunvigintilliard, seven hundred seventy nine trecentunvigintillion, three hundred seventy seven trecentvigintilliard, one hundred ninety four trecentvigintillion, five hundred twenty four trecentnovemdecilliard, six hundred seventy three trecentnovemdecillion, three hundred ninety five trecentoctodecilliard, eight hundred nineteen trecentoctodecillion, two hundred eighty one trecentseptendecilliard, four hundred eighty six trecentseptendecillion, six hundred sixty eight trecentsexdecilliard, five hundred seventy six trecentsexdecillion, three hundred eighty four trecentquindecilliard, nineteen trecentquindecillion, five hundred ninety trecentquattuordecilliard, seven hundred twenty trecentquattuordecillion, one hundred seventy nine trecenttredecilliard, four hundred thirteen trecenttredecillion, three hundred forty nine trecentdodecilliard, five hundred eighty two trecentdodecillion, nine hundred seventy trecentundecilliard, three hundred nineteen trecentundecillion, three hundred ninety three trecentdecilliard, eight hundred eighty four trecentdecillion, three hundred eighty eight trecentnovemtilliard, eight hundred ten trecentnovemtillion, four hundred ninety four trecentoctotilliard, five hundred forty six trecentoctotillion, forty trecentseptentilliard, three hundred forty two trecentseptentillion, eighty seven trecentsextilliard, five hundred thirty six trecentsextillion, five hundred sixty three trecentquintilliard, six hundred twenty eight trecentquintillion, three hundred thirty two trecentquattuortilliard, one hundred fifty two trecentquattuortillion, seventy three trecenttretilliard, one hundred eighty one trecenttretillion, six hundred fourteen trecentdotilliard, three hundred trecentdotillion, seven hundred twenty one trecentuntilliard, seven hundred sixty nine trecentuntillion, three hundred seventy one trecentilliard, four hundred twenty six trecentillion, two hundred thirty eight ducentnovemnonagintilliard, five hundred seventeen ducentnovemnonagintillion, five hundred forty ducentoctononagintilliard, five hundred twenty ducentoctononagintillion, eight hundred forty five ducentseptennonagintilliard, two hundred fourteen ducentseptennonagintillion, six hundred sixty five ducentsexnonagintilliard, three hundred thirteen ducentsexnonagintillion, three hundred one ducentquinnonagintilliard, one hundred eighty three ducentquinnonagintillion, five hundred fifty one ducentquattuornonagintilliard, nine hundred sixty two ducentquattuornonagintillion, five hundred ninety one ducenttrenonagintilliard, eight hundred forty nine ducenttrenonagintillion, five hundred fifty eight ducentdononagintilliard, nine hundred thirty eight ducentdononagintillion, four hundred ninety nine ducentunnonagintilliard, twenty five ducentunnonagintillion, three hundred forty eight ducentnonagintilliard, seven hundred eighty ducentnonagintillion, three hundred seventy six ducentnovemoctogintilliard, seven hundred sixteen ducentnovemoctogintillion, four hundred seventy seven ducentoctooctogintilliard, seventy three ducentoctooctogintillion, nine hundred thirty ducentseptenoctogintilliard, six hundred thirty four ducentseptenoctogintillion, four hundred thirty six ducentsexoctogintilliard, eight hundred forty ducentsexoctogintillion, eighty four ducentquinoctogintilliard, four hundred sixty eight ducentquinoctogintillion, two hundred fifty five ducentquattuoroctogintilliard, nine hundred thirty seven ducentquattuoroctogintillion, four hundred forty three ducenttreoctogintilliard, four hundred fifty one ducenttreoctogintillion, six hundred ninety ducentdooctogintilliard, three hundred fifteen ducentdooctogintillion, nine hundred ninety nine ducentunoctogintilliard, three hundred forty nine ducentunoctogintillion, one hundred thirty seven ducentoctogintilliard, six hundred sixty four ducentoctogintillion, six hundred thirty eight ducentnovemseptuagintilliard, nine hundred sixty eight ducentnovemseptuagintillion, nine hundred seventy two ducentoctoseptuagintilliard, six hundred fourteen ducentoctoseptuagintillion, one hundred ninety nine ducentseptenseptuagintilliard, fifteen ducentseptenseptuagintillion, three hundred four ducentsexseptuagintilliard, nine hundred six ducentsexseptuagintillion, five hundred forty seven ducentquinseptuagintilliard, eight hundred nineteen ducentquinseptuagintillion, fifty six ducentquattuorseptuagintilliard, two hundred twenty seven ducentquattuorseptuagintillion, one hundred seventy one ducenttreseptuagintilliard, two hundred twenty four ducenttreseptuagintillion, nine hundred forty seven ducentdoseptuagintilliard, seventy ducentdoseptuagintillion, seven hundred thirty nine ducentunseptuagintilliard, seven hundred sixteen ducentunseptuagintillion, three hundred ducentseptuagintilliard, nine hundred fifty three ducentseptuagintillion, seven hundred seventy five ducentnovemsexagintilliard, seven hundred forty three ducentnovemsexagintillion, four hundred forty one ducentoctosexagintilliard, three hundred seven ducentoctosexagintillion, nine hundred twenty ducentseptensexagintilliard, five hundred one ducentseptensexagintillion, eight hundred sixty three ducentsexsexagintilliard, five hundred thirty two ducentsexsexagintillion, two hundred thirty four ducentquinsexagintilliard, four hundred sixty six ducentquinsexagintillion, five hundred forty five ducentquattuorsexagintilliard, six hundred forty five ducentquattuorsexagintillion, six hundred ninety five ducenttresexagintilliard, seven hundred seventy four ducenttresexagintillion, three hundred thirty one ducentdosexagintilliard, eight hundred eighty five ducentdosexagintillion, forty four ducentunsexagintilliard, nine hundred seventy eight ducentunsexagintillion, two hundred fifty ducentsexagintilliard, one hundred forty eight ducentsexagintillion, six hundred sixty three ducentnovemquinquagintilliard, four hundred sixty seven ducentnovemquinquagintillion, three hundred seventy two ducentoctoquinquagintilliard, one hundred thirty ducentoctoquinquagintillion, three hundred ninety two ducentseptenquinquagintilliard, ninety nine ducentseptenquinquagintillion, eight hundred ninety four ducentsexquinquagintilliard, eight hundred fifty two ducentsexquinquagintillion, one hundred forty five ducentquinquinquagintilliard, one hundred ninety ducentquinquinquagintillion, nine hundred ninety eight ducentquattuorquinquagintilliard, two hundred thirty two ducentquattuorquinquagintillion, eight hundred seventy eight ducenttrequinquagintilliard, seven hundred seventy two ducenttrequinquagintillion, four hundred eighty six ducentdoquinquagintilliard, six hundred fifty ducentdoquinquagintillion, five hundred thirteen ducentunquinquagintilliard, ten ducentunquinquagintillion, eight hundred sixteen ducentquinquagintilliard, seven hundred sixty nine ducentquinquagintillion, nine hundred two ducentnovemquadragintilliard, eight hundred ninety two ducentnovemquadragintillion, five hundred eighteen ducentoctoquadragintilliard, seven hundred nineteen ducentoctoquadragintillion, two hundred fifty ducentseptenquadragintilliard, sixty six ducentseptenquadragintillion, nine hundred forty seven ducentsexquadragintilliard, two hundred fifteen ducentsexquadragintillion, seven hundred six ducentquinquadragintilliard, five hundred thirty six ducentquinquadragintillion, two hundred sixteen ducentquattuorquadragintilliard, two hundred forty eight ducentquattuorquadragintillion, six hundred ninety six ducenttrequadragintilliard, two hundred forty ducenttrequadragintillion, five hundred sixty nine ducentdoquadragintilliard, two hundred fifty six ducentdoquadragintillion, eight hundred sixty five ducentunquadragintilliard, five hundred fifty four ducentunquadragintillion, two hundred ninety six ducentquadragintilliard, two hundred twenty one ducentquadragintillion, five hundred fifty two ducentnovemtrigintilliard, two hundred eleven ducentnovemtrigintillion, five hundred sixty ducentoctotrigintilliard, four hundred twenty seven ducentoctotrigintillion, seven hundred seventy eight ducentseptentrigintilliard, six hundred sixty two ducentseptentrigintillion, five hundred forty five ducentsextrigintilliard, nine hundred thirty six ducentsextrigintillion, nine hundred ninety eight ducentquintrigintilliard, eight hundred one ducentquintrigintillion, seventy ducentquattuortrigintilliard, one hundred eighty six ducentquattuortrigintillion, one hundred sixty two ducenttretrigintilliard, six hundred one ducenttretrigintillion, four hundred seventy six ducentdotrigintilliard, four hundred seventy four ducentdotrigintillion, two hundred ninety three ducentuntrigintilliard, four hundred fifty nine ducentuntrigintillion, eight hundred thirty ducenttrigintilliard, one hundred eighty three ducenttrigintillion, six hundred fifty one ducentnovemvigintilliard, two hundred seventy three ducentnovemvigintillion, three hundred sixty three ducentoctovigintilliard, four hundred sixty two ducentoctovigintillion, seven hundred thirty two ducentseptenvigintilliard, six hundred seventy five ducentseptenvigintillion, eight hundred eighty three ducentsexvigintilliard, sixty ducentsexvigintillion, seven hundred one ducentquinvigintilliard, four hundred ten ducentquinvigintillion, three hundred fifty nine ducentquattuorvigintilliard, two hundred fifty four ducentquattuorvigintillion, eight hundred twenty nine ducenttrevigintilliard, one hundred forty nine ducenttrevigintillion, seven hundred seventy four ducentdovigintilliard, three hundred thirty nine ducentdovigintillion, two hundred ninety seven ducentunvigintilliard, one hundred seventy three ducentunvigintillion, six hundred eighty ducentvigintilliard, seven hundred sixty five ducentvigintillion, six hundred ten ducentnovemdecilliard, nine hundred fifty nine ducentnovemdecillion, five hundred ninety nine ducentoctodecilliard, nine hundred eleven ducentoctodecillion, three hundred nine ducentseptendecilliard, one hundred eighty nine ducentseptendecillion, seven hundred eighty eight ducentsexdecilliard, two hundred thirty eight ducentsexdecillion, three hundred fifty ducentquindecilliard, one hundred thirty one ducentquindecillion, six hundred thirty five ducentquattuordecilliard, six hundred seventy two ducentquattuordecillion, six hundred sixty one ducenttredecilliard, four hundred thirty five ducenttredecillion, nine hundred sixty nine ducentdodecilliard, two hundred eighteen ducentdodecillion, two hundred thirty nine ducentundecilliard, nine hundred seventy seven ducentundecillion, one hundred ninety six ducentdecilliard, nine hundred thirty three ducentdecillion, eight hundred seventy four ducentnovemtilliard, three hundred ninety five ducentnovemtillion, four hundred three ducentoctotilliard, nine hundred ninety six ducentoctotillion, six hundred twenty three ducentseptentilliard, six hundred seventy five ducentseptentillion, five hundred eighty ducentsextilliard, five hundred twenty eight ducentsextillion, two hundred eleven ducentquintilliard, two hundred seven ducentquintillion, one hundred thirty six ducentquattuortilliard, three hundred ninety six ducentquattuortillion, three hundred seventy ducenttretilliard, eight hundred fifty eight ducenttretillion, fifty six ducentdotilliard, fifty one ducentdotillion, one hundred sixty ducentuntilliard, seven hundred eighty one ducentuntillion, seven hundred seventy ducentilliard, nine hundred eighty five ducentillion, four hundred fifty two centnovemnonagintilliard, five hundred seventy six centnovemnonagintillion, nine hundred eighty eight centoctononagintilliard, thirty two centoctononagintillion, three hundred thirty three centseptennonagintilliard, eight hundred twelve centseptennonagintillion, nine hundred thirty nine centsexnonagintilliard, two hundred seventy two centsexnonagintillion, seven hundred fifty two centquinnonagintilliard, one hundred one centquinnonagintillion, nine hundred forty four centquattuornonagintilliard, six hundred twenty nine centquattuornonagintillion, five hundred twenty seven centtrenonagintilliard, four hundred ninety centtrenonagintillion, three hundred thirteen centdononagintilliard, eight hundred thirty five centdononagintillion, five hundred fifty one centunnonagintilliard, nine hundred eighty five centunnonagintillion, one hundred ninety seven centnonagintilliard, ninety five centnonagintillion, nine hundred twenty eight centnovemoctogintilliard, eight hundred eighty five centnovemoctogintillion, two hundred thirty six centoctooctogintilliard, four hundred fifteen centoctooctogintillion, three hundred one centseptenoctogintilliard, seven hundred eighty nine centseptenoctogintillion, two hundred eighteen centsexoctogintilliard, six hundred seventy five centsexoctogintillion, one hundred forty one centquinoctogintilliard, fourteen centquinoctogintillion, five hundred forty one centquattuoroctogintilliard, two hundred three centquattuoroctogintillion, ninety six centtreoctogintilliard, one hundred ninety one centtreoctogintillion, two hundred seventy centdooctogintilliard, nine hundred thirty four centdooctogintillion, three hundred sixty nine centunoctogintilliard, thirty nine centunoctogintillion, five hundred twenty two centoctogintilliard, ninety eight centoctogintillion, two hundred eighty centnovemseptuagintilliard, three hundred seventeen centnovemseptuagintillion, six hundred sixty eight centoctoseptuagintilliard, nine hundred forty two centoctoseptuagintillion, sixty one centseptenseptuagintilliard, three hundred twenty five centseptenseptuagintillion, five hundred seventy two centsexseptuagintilliard, three hundred forty nine centsexseptuagintillion, six hundred forty three centquinseptuagintilliard, six hundred thirty eight centquinseptuagintillion, four hundred three centquattuorseptuagintilliard, fifty six centquattuorseptuagintillion, four hundred eighty seven centtreseptuagintilliard, three hundred forty nine centtreseptuagintillion, two hundred ninety 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is mersenne prime #21

Re:But, did you know the net is only for commerce? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4994119)

that's from the parody web page you ...

Re:But, did you know the net is only for commerce? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4994136)

Hence the problem. People that don't pay attention get confused easily.

Re:But, did you know the net is only for commerce? (5, Insightful)

outsider007 (115534) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994161)

basically this whole story is a troll and people will be falling for it for the next 24 hours or so.

good times.

Re:But, did you know the net is only for commerce? (2, Informative)

PNut_Head (631216) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994179)

What gets me here is that, get this, from Dow's own web site:

Actually, that is not from 'Dow's own web site'. It's from a site that is set up to look almost exactly like one sponsored, maintained or supported by DOW. It's not. It's an example of parody gone too far. There doesn't even seem to be a disclaimer about the entire site being parody.

The original post does however mention that the submitter was fooled as you were. It seems you did a good job and RTFA, but should have spent a little more time to RTFP more carefully.

Re:But, did you know the net is only for commerce? (5, Insightful)

mat catastrophe (105256) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994274)

Um, no. The above quotations are from DOW Ethics.com [dowethics.com] , which is obviously one of the parody sites.

I say obviously, because I do not for one hot second think that anyone here can or should defend DOW Chemical in this matter. Yes, The Onion is an obvious parody, but not because of the disclaimers or the site design, but because of the content. And don't pull out your tired and elitist "Joe Average" arguments, because Joe Average is probably not surfing the DOW chemical websites anyway. Those sites are for investors and business types and if they aren't smart enough to tell when they are being had, well, fuck 'em.

These are very strange times we live in today, and strange times call for strange measures. Yes, the parody people took some extreme steps (ripping off corporate design, registering similar domain names) but that's what it might take to get attention. And it certainly did get some attention, now didn't it? How many of you would even be thinking about the policies and procedures of DOW chemicals today if it weren't for this story? Probably three of you. Certainly not me, I'm nursing a headache from lack of sleep.

This is interesting... (4, Interesting)

craenor (623901) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994125)

I happen to think that for the most part you have the right to put anything you want on your website. If you want to run a parody of Dow, the Pope or John Lennon, go for it.

However, with that being said. Your ISP doesn't necessarily have to put up with that. They also have a right to decide what content they will host on their servers. If they take offense at your postings or bow to pressure from a corporation or the government, that's well within their right.

They run a business. Just because you want to take a risk with something you choose to write. Doesn't meant they have to take the risk with you.

Re:This is interesting... (2)

Henry V .009 (518000) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994232)

Should the government (or corporations maliciously using the legal system-->therefore government) be able to pressure ISP's about content?

Re:This is interesting... (2)

craenor (623901) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994276)

They can certainly try. Bluffing is not against the law. Corporations, government, lobbyists, lawyers, churches, private individuals ... all of these groups will at times attempt to pressure others with legalize, bad press and the like.

Re:This is interesting... (2)

Henry V .009 (518000) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994333)

Ah, but what about frivilous law suits and spurious DMCA ceast and desist letters. You don't see how that might have a chilling effect [chillingeffects.org] on speech?

The Yes Men could be at fault (5, Interesting)

fermion (181285) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994140)

OK people, let take a chill pill and look at the situation. In my opinion a parody should be an original creation, be distinct from the object of satire, and not be deceptive. The Onion [theonion.com] is an excellent example of effective and creative satire.

In the case of the "Yes Men" the attempt seems to be using parody and satire to effect social activism. This, in itself, is not a bad or uncommon thing. However, if one is going to do this, one has to make sure the creation is actually satire.

The main tool that they use on the web appears to be 'Reamweaver', a tool to copy a website and modify in small ways. From the Reamweaver website we have
Reamweaver has everything you need to instantly "funhouse-mirror" anyone's website, copying the real-time "look and feel" but letting you change any words, images, etc. that you choose.
and
Use Reamweaver for fun, or, if you like, for lots of fun... by obtaining speaking opportunities on behalf of your adopted organization. Here's how to that:
1. (Optional) Register a domain not too different from your target's domain - e.g. we-forum.org, world-economic-forum.com, wtoo.org, rncommittee.org .
2. Put Reamweaver on your domain.
3. Tell search engines about your domain.
4. When invitations arrive, accept them!

This does not seem to a tool conducive to satire. This appears to be a tool that is to be used to misrepresent, decieve, and ultimately allow an individual to go into the community as the perceived representative of the company under attack.

Social activism is good. Trying to create a better world is good. However, when you invite a person from Dow Chemical to your office, one would expect that the person is actually from dow chemical. Furthermore, I am not sure I would equate the Reamweaver technique to a person who registers a slightly misspelled domain name and then puts up tons of pop ups and installs viruses when some unsuspecting visitors accidently hits the site.

I understand that the intention of the Yes Men are probably just. I understand that they are probably good people,. However, copying someone else's website and representing it as your own is not good. It is one thing to rip other artists CDs for personal use. It is another thing to rip those CDs and then sell the copies. It is yet another thing to rip those CDs change a few seconds, and then represent the tracks as your own. What they are doing might be peaceful disobendience. It does not seem to be satire

Re:The Yes Men could be at fault (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4994189)

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quadringentquattuorvigintilliard, eighty seven quadringentquattuorvigintillion, five hundred fifty eight quadringenttrevigintilliard, two hundred fifty seven quadringenttrevigintillion, four hundred eighty eight quadringentdovigintilliard, four hundred seventy quadringentdovigintillion, four hundred eighty nine quadringentunvigintilliard, three hundred eighty four quadringentunvigintillion, two hundred forty three quadringentvigintilliard, nine hundred eighty nine quadringentvigintillion, two hundred seventy quadringentnovemdecilliard, two hundred thirty six quadringentnovemdecillion, eight hundred eighty four quadringentoctodecilliard, nine hundred seventy eight quadringentoctodecillion, six hundred forty three quadringentseptendecilliard, sixty three quadringentseptendecillion, ninety three quadringentsexdecilliard, four quadringentsexdecillion, four hundred twenty two quadringentquindecilliard, nine hundred thirty nine quadringentquindecillion, six hundred three quadringentquattuordecilliard, three hundred seventy quadringentquattuordecillion, ten quadringenttredecilliard, five hundred forty six quadringenttredecillion, five hundred ninety five quadringentdodecilliard, three hundred eighty six quadringentdodecillion, three hundred two quadringentundecilliard, nine quadringentundecillion, seventy three quadringentdecilliard, forty three quadringentdecillion, nine hundred forty four quadringentnovemtilliard, four hundred eighty two quadringentnovemtillion, two hundred two quadringentoctotilliard, five hundred fifty nine quadringentoctotillion, ninety seven quadringentseptentilliard, four hundred six quadringentseptentillion, seven hundred quadringentsextilliard, five hundred ninety seven quadringentsextillion, three hundred thirty quadringentquintilliard, five hundred seventy quadringentquintillion, seven hundred ninety nine quadringentquattuortilliard, five hundred seven quadringentquattuortillion, eight hundred thirty two quadringenttretilliard, nine hundred sixty three quadringenttretillion, one hundred thirty quadringentdotilliard, nine hundred thirty eight quadringentdotillion, seven hundred thirty nine quadringentuntilliard, eight hundred eighty five quadringentuntillion, eighty quadringentilliard, one hundred ninety eight quadringentillion, four hundred sixteen trecentnovemnonagintilliard, two hundred fifty eight trecentnovemnonagintillion, six hundred thirty five trecentoctononagintilliard, one hundred ninety four trecentoctononagintillion, five hundred twenty two trecentseptennonagintilliard, nine hundred thirteen trecentseptennonagintillion, forty two trecentsexnonagintilliard, five hundred sixty two trecentsexnonagintillion, nine hundred thirty six trecentquinnonagintilliard, six hundred seventy nine trecentquinnonagintillion, eight hundred fifty nine trecentquattuornonagintilliard, five hundred eighty seven trecentquattuornonagintillion, four hundred ninety five trecenttrenonagintilliard, seven hundred twenty one trecenttrenonagintillion, thirty one trecentdononagintilliard, one hundred seventy three trecentdononagintillion, seven hundred forty seven trecentunnonagintilliard, seven hundred ninety six trecentunnonagintillion, four hundred eighteen trecentnonagintilliard, eight hundred ninety five trecentnonagintillion, sixty trecentnovemoctogintilliard, seven hundred one trecentnovemoctogintillion, nine hundred forty one trecentoctooctogintilliard, seven hundred seventeen trecentoctooctogintillion, five hundred six trecentseptenoctogintilliard, one trecentseptenoctogintillion, nine hundred thirty seven trecentsexoctogintilliard, one hundred fifty two trecentsexoctogintillion, four hundred thirty trecentquinoctogintilliard, thirty two trecentquinoctogintillion, three hundred sixty three trecentquattuoroctogintilliard, six hundred thirty one trecentquattuoroctogintillion, nine hundred thirty four trecenttreoctogintilliard, two hundred sixty five trecenttreoctogintillion, seven hundred ninety eight trecentdooctogintilliard, five hundred sixteen trecentdooctogintillion, two hundred thirty six trecentunoctogintilliard, forty seven trecentunoctogintillion, four hundred fifty one trecentoctogintilliard, two hundred nine trecentoctogintillion, eighty nine trecentnovemseptuagintilliard, eight hundred sixty four trecentnovemseptuagintillion, seven hundred seven trecentoctoseptuagintilliard, four hundred thirty trecentoctoseptuagintillion, seven hundred eighty trecentseptenseptuagintilliard, three hundred sixty two trecentseptenseptuagintillion, two hundred ninety eight trecentsexseptuagintilliard, three hundred seven trecentsexseptuagintillion, thirty eight trecentquinseptuagintilliard, one hundred ninety three trecentquinseptuagintillion, four hundred forty five trecentquattuorseptuagintilliard, four hundred eighty six trecentquattuorseptuagintillion, four hundred ninety three trecenttreseptuagintilliard, seven hundred fifty six trecenttreseptuagintillion, six hundred forty seven trecentdoseptuagintilliard, nine hundred ninety one trecentdoseptuagintillion, eight hundred four trecentunseptuagintilliard, two hundred fifty eight trecentunseptuagintillion, seven hundred seventy five trecentseptuagintilliard, five hundred seventy four trecentseptuagintillion, nine hundred seventy three trecentnovemsexagintilliard, eight hundred thirty three trecentnovemsexagintillion, nine hundred three trecentoctosexagintilliard, three hundred fifteen trecentoctosexagintillion, seven hundred thirty five trecentseptensexagintilliard, eighty two trecentseptensexagintillion, eight hundred ninety one trecentsexsexagintilliard, twenty nine trecentsexsexagintillion, three hundred ninety two trecentquinsexagintilliard, three hundred fifty nine trecentquinsexagintillion, three hundred fifty two trecentquattuorsexagintilliard, seven hundred fifty eight trecentquattuorsexagintillion, six hundred seventeen trecenttresexagintilliard, one hundred eighty five trecenttresexagintillion, nineteen trecentdosexagintilliard, nine hundred forty two trecentdosexagintillion, five hundred fifty four trecentunsexagintilliard, eight hundred thirty four trecentunsexagintillion, six hundred seventy one trecentsexagintilliard, eight hundred sixty one trecentsexagintillion, seventy four trecentnovemquinquagintilliard, five hundred forty eight trecentnovemquinquagintillion, seven hundred seventy two trecentoctoquinquagintilliard, four hundred thirty nine trecentoctoquinquagintillion, eight hundred eighty trecentseptenquinquagintilliard, seven hundred twenty nine trecentseptenquinquagintillion, six hundred six trecentsexquinquagintilliard, two hundred forty four trecentsexquinquagintillion, nine hundred eleven trecentquinquinquagintilliard, nine hundred forty trecentquinquinquagintillion, sixty six trecentquattuorquinquagintilliard, six hundred eighty trecentquattuorquinquagintillion, one hundred twelve trecenttrequinquagintilliard, eight hundred twenty three trecenttrequinquagintillion, eight hundred twenty four trecentdoquinquagintilliard, ninety five trecentdoquinquagintillion, eight hundred sixteen trecentunquinquagintilliard, four hundred fifty eight trecentunquinquagintillion, two hundred sixty one trecentquinquagintilliard, seven hundred sixty one trecentquinquagintillion, eight hundred sixty one trecentnovemquadragintilliard, seven hundred forty six trecentnovemquadragintillion, six hundred four trecentoctoquadragintilliard, thirty four trecentoctoquadragintillion, eight hundred two trecentseptenquadragintilliard, fifty six trecentseptenquadragintillion, four hundred sixty six trecentsexquadragintilliard, eight hundred twenty three trecentsexquadragintillion, one hundred forty three trecentquinquadragintilliard, seven hundred eighteen trecentquinquadragintillion, two hundred fifty five trecentquattuorquadragintilliard, four hundred ninety two trecentquattuorquadragintillion, seven hundred eighty four trecenttrequadragintilliard, seven hundred seventy nine trecenttrequadragintillion, three hundred eighty trecentdoquadragintilliard, nine hundred ninety one trecentdoquadragintillion, seven hundred forty nine trecentunquadragintilliard, five hundred eighty trecentunquadragintillion, two hundred fifty five trecentquadragintilliard, two hundred sixty three trecentquadragintillion, three hundred twenty three trecentnovemtrigintilliard, three hundred twenty six trecentnovemtrigintillion, five hundred thirty six trecentoctotrigintilliard, four hundred fifty seven trecentoctotrigintillion, seven hundred forty three trecentseptentrigintilliard, eight hundred ninety four trecentseptentrigintillion, one hundred fifty trecentsextrigintilliard, eight hundred forty eight trecentsextrigintillion, nine hundred fifty three trecentquintrigintilliard, nine hundred sixty nine trecentquintrigintillion, nine hundred two trecentquattuortrigintilliard, eight hundred eighteen trecentquattuortrigintillion, five hundred thirty trecenttretrigintilliard, fifty seven trecenttretrigintillion, eight hundred seventy trecentdotrigintilliard, eight hundred seventy six trecentdotrigintillion, two hundred twenty nine trecentuntrigintilliard, three hundred twenty nine trecentuntrigintillion, eight hundred three trecenttrigintilliard, three hundred thirty eight trecenttrigintillion, two hundred eighty five trecentnovemvigintilliard, seven hundred thirty five trecentnovemvigintillion, four hundred nineteen trecentoctovigintilliard, two hundred twenty eight trecentoctovigintillion, two hundred fifty nine trecentseptenvigintilliard, twenty two trecentseptenvigintillion, one hundred sixty nine trecentsexvigintilliard, six hundred two trecentsexvigintillion, six hundred sixty five trecentquinvigintilliard, five hundred thirty two trecentquinvigintillion, two hundred ten trecentquattuorvigintilliard, eight hundred thirty four trecentquattuorvigintillion, seven hundred eighty nine trecenttrevigintilliard, six hundred two trecenttrevigintillion, fifty one trecentdovigintilliard, six hundred eighty six trecentdovigintillion, five hundred forty six trecentunvigintilliard, eleven trecentunvigintillion, four hundred sixty six trecentvigintilliard, seven hundred thirty seven trecentvigintillion, nine hundred eighty one trecentnovemdecilliard, three hundred six trecentnovemdecillion, fifty six trecentoctodecilliard, two hundred forty seven trecentoctodecillion, four hundred eighty trecentseptendecilliard, fifty five trecentseptendecillion, seventy one trecentsexdecilliard, seven hundred eighteen trecentsexdecillion, two hundred fifty trecentquindecilliard, three hundred thirty three trecentquindecillion, seven hundred thirty seven trecentquattuordecilliard, five hundred two trecentquattuordecillion, two hundred sixty seven trecenttredecilliard, three hundred seven trecenttredecillion, three hundred forty four trecentdodecilliard, one hundred seventy eight trecentdodecillion, five hundred twelve trecentundecilliard, nine hundred fifty trecentundecillion, seven hundred thirty eight trecentdecilliard, five hundred ninety four trecentdecillion, three hundred thirty trecentnovemtilliard, six hundred eighty four trecentnovemtillion, three hundred forty trecentoctotilliard, eight hundred two trecentoctotillion, six hundred ninety eight trecentseptentilliard, two hundred twenty eight trecentseptentillion, nine hundred sixty three trecentsextilliard, nine hundred eighty six trecentsextillion, five hundred sixty two trecentquintilliard, seven hundred thirty two trecentquintillion, five hundred ninety seven trecentquattuortilliard, one hundred seventy five trecentquattuortillion, three hundred seventy two trecenttretilliard, eighty seven trecenttretillion, two hundred ninety five trecentdotilliard, six hundred forty nine trecentdotillion, seventy two trecentuntilliard, eight hundred thirty trecentuntillion, two hundred eighty nine trecentilliard, seven hundred forty nine trecentillion, seven hundred seventy one ducentnovemnonagintilliard, three hundred fifty eight ducentnovemnonagintillion, three hundred thirty ducentoctononagintilliard, eight hundred sixty seven ducentoctononagintillion, nine hundred fifty one ducentseptennonagintilliard, five hundred eight ducentseptennonagintillion, seven hundred ten ducentsexnonagintilliard, eight hundred fifty nine ducentsexnonagintillion, two hundred sixteen ducentquinnonagintilliard, seven hundred forty three ducentquinnonagintillion, two hundred eighteen ducentquattuornonagintilliard, five hundred twenty two ducentquattuornonagintillion, nine hundred eighteen ducenttrenonagintilliard, eight hundred eleven ducenttrenonagintillion, six hundred seventy ducentdononagintilliard, six hundred thirty seven ducentdononagintillion, four hundred forty eight ducentunnonagintilliard, four hundred ninety six ducentunnonagintillion, four hundred ninety eight ducentnonagintilliard, five hundred forty nine ducentnonagintillion, ninety four ducentnovemoctogintilliard, four hundred thirty ducentnovemoctogintillion, five hundred forty one ducentoctooctogintilliard, two hundred seventy seven ducentoctooctogintillion, four hundred forty four ducentseptenoctogintilliard, seventy nine ducentseptenoctogintillion, four hundred seven ducentsexoctogintilliard, nine hundred eighty nine ducentsexoctogintillion, five hundred thirty nine ducentquinoctogintilliard, eight hundred fifty seven ducentquinoctogintillion, four hundred sixty nine ducentquattuoroctogintilliard, four hundred fifty two ducentquattuoroctogintillion, seven hundred seventy two ducenttreoctogintilliard, one hundred thirty two ducenttreoctogintillion, one hundred sixty six ducentdooctogintilliard, five hundred eighty ducentdooctogintillion, eight hundred eighty five ducentunoctogintilliard, seven hundred fifty four ducentunoctogintillion, three hundred sixty ducentoctogintilliard, four hundred seventy seven ducentoctogintillion, four hundred eight ducentnovemseptuagintilliard, eight hundred forty two ducentnovemseptuagintillion, nine hundred thirteen ducentoctoseptuagintilliard, three hundred twenty seven ducentoctoseptuagintillion, two hundred ninety two ducentseptenseptuagintilliard, nine hundred forty eight ducentseptenseptuagintillion, six hundred ninety six ducentsexseptuagintilliard, eight hundred ninety seven ducentsexseptuagintillion, four hundred ninety six ducentquinseptuagintilliard, one hundred forty one ducentquinseptuagintillion, six hundred fourteen ducentquattuorseptuagintilliard, nine hundred nineteen ducentquattuorseptuagintillion, seven hundred thirty nine ducenttreseptuagintilliard, eight hundred forty five ducenttreseptuagintillion, four hundred thirty two ducentdoseptuagintilliard, eight hundred thirty five ducentdoseptuagintillion, eight hundred ninety four ducentunseptuagintilliard, three hundred twenty four ducentunseptuagintillion, four hundred seventy three ducentseptuagintilliard, six hundred one ducentseptuagintillion, three hundred eighty seven ducentnovemsexagintilliard, six hundred nine ducentnovemsexagintillion, six hundred forty three ducentoctosexagintilliard, seven hundred fifty ducentoctosexagintillion, five hundred fourteen ducentseptensexagintilliard, six hundred ninety nine ducentseptensexagintillion, two hundred fifteen ducentsexsexagintilliard, thirty two ducentsexsexagintillion, six hundred eighty three ducentquinsexagintilliard, seven hundred forty four ducentquinsexagintillion, five hundred twenty seven ducentquattuorsexagintilliard, seventy one ducentquattuorsexagintillion, seven hundred eighteen ducenttresexagintilliard, six hundred eighty four ducenttresexagintillion, ninety one ducentdosexagintilliard, eight hundred thirty two ducentdosexagintillion, one hundred seventy ducentunsexagintilliard, nine hundred forty eight ducentunsexagintillion, three hundred sixty nine ducentsexagintilliard, three hundred ninety six ducentsexagintillion, two hundred eighty ducentnovemquinquagintilliard, sixty one ducentnovemquinquagintillion, one hundred eighty four ducentoctoquinquagintilliard, five hundred ninety three ducentoctoquinquagintillion, seven hundred forty six ducentseptenquinquagintilliard, one hundred forty three ducentseptenquinquagintillion, five hundred eighty nine ducentsexquinquagintilliard, sixty eight ducentsexquinquagintillion, eight hundred eleven ducentquinquinquagintilliard, one hundred ninety ducentquinquinquagintillion, two hundred fifty three ducentquattuorquinquagintilliard, one hundred one ducentquattuorquinquagintillion, eight hundred seventy three ducenttrequinquagintilliard, five hundred ninety five ducenttrequinquagintillion, three hundred nineteen ducentdoquinquagintilliard, one hundred fifty six ducentdoquinquagintillion, one hundred seven ducentunquinquagintilliard, three hundred nineteen ducentunquinquagintillion, one hundred ninety six ducentquinquagintilliard, seventy one ducentquinquagintillion, one hundred fifty ducentnovemquadragintilliard, five hundred ninety eight ducentnovemquadragintillion, four hundred eighty eight ducentoctoquadragintilliard, seventy ducentoctoquadragintillion, twenty seven ducentseptenquadragintilliard, eighty eight ducentseptenquadragintillion, seven hundred five ducentsexquadragintilliard, eight hundred forty two ducentsexquadragintillion, seven hundred forty nine ducentquinquadragintilliard, six hundred five ducentquinquadragintillion, two hundred three ducentquattuorquadragintilliard, sixty three ducentquattuorquadragintillion, one hundred ninety four ducenttrequadragintilliard, one hundred ninety one ducenttrequadragintillion, one hundred sixty six ducentdoquadragintilliard, nine hundred twenty two ducentdoquadragintillion, one hundred six ducentunquadragintilliard, one hundred seventy six ducentunquadragintillion, one hundred fifty seven ducentquadragintilliard, six hundred nine ducentquadragintillion, three hundred sixty seven ducentnovemtrigintilliard, two hundred forty one ducentnovemtrigintillion, nine hundred forty eight ducentoctotrigintilliard, one hundred sixty ducentoctotrigintillion, six hundred twenty five ducentseptentrigintilliard, nine hundred eighty nine ducentseptentrigintillion, thirty two ducentsextrigintilliard, one hundred twenty seven ducentsextrigintillion, nine hundred eighty four ducentquintrigintilliard, seven hundred forty eight ducentquintrigintillion, eighty one ducentquattuortrigintilliard, seventy five ducentquattuortrigintillion, three hundred twenty four ducenttretrigintilliard, three hundred eighty two ducenttretrigintillion, six hundred thirty two ducentdotrigintilliard, ninety three ducentdotrigintillion, nine hundred thirteen ducentuntrigintilliard, seven hundred ninety six ducentuntrigintillion, four hundred forty four ducenttrigintilliard, six hundred sixty five ducenttrigintillion, seven hundred ducentnovemvigintilliard, six hundred one ducentnovemvigintillion, three hundred ninety one ducentoctovigintilliard, two hundred seventy eight ducentoctovigintillion, three hundred sixty ducentseptenvigintilliard, three hundred twenty three ducentseptenvigintillion, two ducentsexvigintilliard, two hundred sixty seven ducentsexvigintillion, four hundred thirty four ducentquinvigintilliard, two hundred ninety five ducentquinvigintillion, one hundred ninety four ducentquattuorvigintilliard, three hundred twenty five ducentquattuorvigintillion, six hundred seven ducenttrevigintilliard, two hundred eighty ducenttrevigintillion, six hundred sixty one ducentdovigintilliard, two hundred sixty ducentdovigintillion, one hundred nineteen ducentunvigintilliard, three hundred seventy eight ducentunvigintillion, seven hundred nineteen ducentvigintilliard, four hundred five ducentvigintillion, one hundred fifty one ducentnovemdecilliard, four hundred ninety seven ducentnovemdecillion, five hundred fifty five ducentoctodecilliard, one hundred eighty seven ducentoctodecillion, five hundred forty nine ducentseptendecilliard, two hundred fifty two ducentseptendecillion, one hundred thirty four ducentsexdecilliard, two hundred sixty four ducentsexdecillion, three hundred ninety four ducentquindecilliard, six hundred forty five ducentquindecillion, nine hundred sixty three ducentquattuordecilliard, eight hundred fifty three ducentquattuordecillion, nine hundred sixty four ducenttredecilliard, nine hundred thirteen ducenttredecillion, three hundred nine ducentdodecilliard, six hundred ninety seven ducentdodecillion, seven hundred seventy six ducentundecilliard, five hundred thirty three ducentundecillion, three hundred twenty nine ducentdecilliard, four hundred one ducentdecillion, eight hundred twenty two ducentnovemtilliard, one hundred fifty eight ducentnovemtillion, three ducentoctotilliard, one hundred eighty two ducentoctotillion, eight hundred eighty nine ducentseptentilliard, two hundred seventy eight ducentseptentillion, seventy two ducentsextilliard, three hundred sixty eight ducentsextillion, six hundred two ducentquintilliard, one hundred twenty eight ducentquintillion, nine hundred eighty two ducentquattuortilliard, seven hundred ten ducentquattuortillion, three hundred six ducenttretilliard, six hundred eighteen ducenttretillion, one hundred fifteen ducentdotilliard, one hundred eighteen ducentdotillion, nine hundred sixty four ducentuntilliard, one hundred thirty one ducentuntillion, eight hundred ninety three ducentilliard, six hundred fifty seven ducentillion, eight hundred forty five centnovemnonagintilliard, four hundred centnovemnonagintillion, two hundred ninety six centoctononagintilliard, eight hundred sixty centoctononagintillion, twelve centseptennonagintilliard, four hundred twenty centseptennonagintillion, three hundred ninety one centsexnonagintilliard, three hundred seventy six centsexnonagintillion, nine hundred sixty four centquinnonagintilliard, six hundred seventy centquinnonagintillion, one hundred eighty three centquattuornonagintilliard, nine hundred eighty three centquattuornonagintillion, five hundred ninety four centtrenonagintilliard, nine hundred fifty four centtrenonagintillion, one hundred twelve centdononagintilliard, four hundred eighty four centdononagintillion, five hundred sixty five centunnonagintilliard, five hundred ninety seven centunnonagintillion, three hundred twelve centnonagintilliard, four hundred sixty centnonagintillion, seven hundred thirty seven centnovemoctogintilliard, seven hundred ninety eight centnovemoctogintillion, seven hundred seventy seven centoctooctogintilliard, ninety two centoctooctogintillion, seventy one centseptenoctogintilliard, seven hundred six centseptenoctogintillion, seven hundred ten centsexoctogintilliard, eight hundred twenty four centsexoctogintillion, five hundred three centquinoctogintilliard, seven hundred seven centquinoctogintillion, four hundred fifty seven centquattuoroctogintilliard, two hundred twenty centquattuoroctogintillion, one hundred fifty five centtreoctogintilliard, fifteen centtreoctogintillion, eight hundred ninety nine centdooctogintilliard, five hundred ninety one centdooctogintillion, seven hundred sixty six centunoctogintilliard, two hundred forty four centunoctogintillion, nine hundred fifty seven centoctogintilliard, seven hundred sixty eight centoctogintillion, six centnovemseptuagintilliard, eight hundred two centnovemseptuagintillion, four hundred eighty two centoctoseptuagintilliard, nine hundred seventy six centoctoseptuagintillion, six hundred seventy three centseptenseptuagintilliard, nine hundred twenty centseptenseptuagintillion, three hundred ninety two centsexseptuagintilliard, nine hundred ninety five centsexseptuagintillion, four hundred ten centquinseptuagintilliard, one hundred sixty four centquinseptuagintillion, two hundred twenty four centquattuorseptuagintilliard, seven hundred seventy six centquattuorseptuagintillion, four hundred forty five centtreseptuagintilliard, six hundred seventy one centtreseptuagintillion, two hundred twenty two centdoseptuagintilliard, one hundred forty nine centdoseptuagintillion, eight hundred three centunseptuagintilliard, six hundred fifty seven centunseptuagintillion, nine hundred twenty seven centseptuagintilliard, seven hundred eight centseptuagintillion, four hundred twelve centnovemsexagintilliard, nine hundred twenty five centnovemsexagintillion, five hundred fifty five centoctosexagintilliard, five hundred forty two centoctosexagintillion, eight hundred seventeen centseptensexagintilliard, forty five centseptensexagintillion, five hundred seventy two centsexsexagintilliard, four hundred thirty centsexsexagintillion, eight hundred forty six centquinsexagintilliard, three hundred eighty nine centquinsexagintillion, nine hundred eighty eight centquattuorsexagintilliard, one hundred twenty nine centquattuorsexagintillion, nine hundred sixty centtresexagintilliard, five hundred nineteen centtresexagintillion, two 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six centdoquinquagintillion, eight hundred seventy nine centunquinquagintilliard, eight hundred seventy five centunquinquagintillion, six hundred ninety four centquinquagintilliard, three hundred fifteen centquinquagintillion, seventy eight centnovemquadragintilliard, six hundred fifty four centnovemquadragintillion, four hundred twenty centoctoquadragintilliard, fifty five centoctoquadragintillion, six hundred three centseptenquadragintilliard, four hundred sixty nine centseptenquadragintillion, six hundred twenty five centsexquadragintilliard, three hundred nine centsexquadragintillion, three hundred ninety nine centquinquadragintilliard, six hundred fifty three centquinquadragintillion, nine hundred fifty five centquattuorquadragintilliard, nine hundred thirty two centquattuorquadragintillion, three hundred ten centtrequadragintilliard, four hundred sixty six centtrequadragintillion, four hundred thirty centdoquadragintilliard, thirty nine centdoquadragintillion, one hundred forty 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is mersenne prime #22

Re:The Yes Men could be at fault (2, Flamebait)

Henry V .009 (518000) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994221)

Oh, God. Copying a website and changing it in small ways for humorous result. That wouldn't be something called parody would it? I've heard of parody. It sounds awful. I hope it's banned. I'm going to write my Congressman asking for a new division of the police force especially designed to break into people's houses looking for this thing called parody. I mean, a company could actually lose PROFIT over a thing like this!

Re:The Yes Men could be at fault (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4994247)

You must be the funny guy who ran the "parody" website http://www.paypaI.com right, which "parodied" the graphics and login of http://www.paypal.com ? Damn that was hilarious when you stole all those people's money. Ha ha ha. Information wants to be free!

Re:The Yes Men could be at fault (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4994256)

Oh, shit. Copying a website and changing it in small ways for silly result. That wouldn't be something called misrepresentaion would it? I've heard of misrepresentaion. It sounds bad. I hope it's outlawed. I'm going to write my Congressperson asking for a new division of the police force especially designed to bust into people's houses looking for this thing called misrepresentation. I mean, a company could actually lose PROFIT over a thing like this!

-- ...in the Fox News-Wall Street Journal editorial page-Rush Limbaugh echo chamber.--Martin Peretz, New Repubic

Re:The Yes Men could be at fault (2)

Henry V .009 (518000) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994282)

You, sir, have just found the root password to the first ammendment. I commend you. Let's outlaw parody just in case someone uses it for misrepresentation. In fact, hell, outlaw the internet too--I mean people use that for kiddie porn.

no dow = no computer. no greenpeace = better world (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4994166)

Without dow, you freaks wouldnt have computers, PDAs, cars, and blowup dolls.

Greenpeace does NOTHING good. Only thing Greenpeace does is suck the dick of PETA. PETA, the other company.

Shut the hell up, this all happened years ago. 20,000 people died. More thans that will die in car accidents today. I dont see the tree hugging bastards trying to make the roads safer.

I hate hippies

Re:no dow = no computer. no greenpeace = better wo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4994311)

Sad twat!

Potential Profits (1)

Alien54 (180860) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994167)

Another example of the corporate concern with possible and potential profits taking precicence over any sense of ethics.

the mafioso mentality continues to spread. It must be nice as a stock holder, to have someone like this, who will make money for you without any heavy duty ethical pondering on you part.

Flush the toilet before it backs up ..... oops, too late.

Didja all catch... (5, Insightful)

FFFish (7567) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994170)

...that bit about DOW suing the families that were destroyed/hurt by their Bhopal disaster?

A bunch of women marched on DOW HQ in India, delivering some of the contanimated soil and water from Bhopal. The protest lasted two peaceful hours. A single DOW employee greeted them.

DOW is now suing them for the equivalent of US$10K -- a helluva lot of money, particularly in India -- for "lost wages" because of the "work disruption."

Disgusting. First they slaughter hundreds and thousands of employees and families through cost-cutting, undertraining, and poor plant maintenance; then they refuse to clean up the mess; then they sue the very people who were hurt by the accident.

Sometimes it would be e'er so nice to be able to punish CEOs as if they'd committed the crimes themselves.

Re:Didja all catch... (2)

Lysol (11150) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994210)

Yah, and for compensation for the deaths, UC only paid out around $300-$400 each. Beyond sad.

Of course, you have to wonder what part the Indian govt. had to do with all this. I mean, they closed the case in '91 or whenever it was and stated that they thought it was fair.

Dow's corporate free speech thing is a load of garbage. However, one has to wonder, even tho they aren't the best, they bought someone else that did something and i'm not sure how i feel about them having to do deal with it. On the other hand, it only seems natural and a way to make them look like they really do care if they went in and pre-emptively made things better..

But of course, they is rarely the case for any global entity.

Re:Didja all catch... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4994334)

I think the funny thing is that the world press went along with this eco-terrorist attack against the chemical industry. The evidence of sabotage, while quite clear, was supressed.
The Bhopal plant was creating fertilizer. You know, the stuff used to prevent mass starvation by increasing food crops. However, mass starvation is a wonderfull tool for maintining power.
Now let the slashtards reply.

Re:Didja all catch... (3, Insightful)

MrResistor (120588) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994341)

When Dow bought UC, they bought their messes too, just like if you marry someone with bad credit.

Interesting point about the Indian government, though.

Re:Didja all catch... (2)

j3110 (193209) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994328)

You can, and it doesn't have to be an American citizen that got it either. As long as the board members are in the US, you can bring them up on charges. They'll pin them on an Indian exec, but the company will have to hold it's head in shame from the publicity. That's why there are conspiracy crimes (conspiracy to commit murder etc.) and accessory crimes (even if they know what would happen, they are accessories since they have the power to stop it).

Something is up here... (1)

BesigedB (632170) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994174)

If I posted this on my isp's webspace I would be the one to get in shit, not the ISP so forcing them to close down.

Its another case of a big company killing off an enemy/rival who cannt fight back, and the world will be worse for it.

"peaceful protest" (4, Insightful)

eyeball (17206) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994180)

... of 200 women survivors from Bhopal delivered toxic waste from the abandoned Carbide factory back to Dow's Indian headquarters in Bombay...

From reading between the lines of the article, it appears that they are suing the protesters, and not all the survivors, for what sounds like an irresponsible protest rather than a peaceful one. If someone showed up at my company's door with deadly chemicals, we'd have to shut the place down for security reasons, at a cost to the business.

Dow may be wrong or negligent in compensating the survivors, but protesters causing a business to loose money to gain their attention or try and get them to change their action is about as effective as spanking a child when they don't eat their peas. They're just going to grow up hating those that spank them.

Re:"peaceful protest" (3, Insightful)

phorm (591458) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994325)

If someone showed up at my company's door with deadly chemicals, we'd have to shut the place down for security reasons, at a cost to the business.

However, Dow is dumping those same chemicals on somebody else's doorstep. They're just being nice enough to return them for analysis...

Re:"peaceful protest" (1)

bheerssen (534014) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994339)

You shouldn't anthropomorphize corporations so much. It only encourages them ;)

But seriously, what other way is there to get a corporation's attention? Corporations, by their very nature, are only interested in making money. Sometimes by every means available, however nefarious, as is the case regarding Union Carbide in Bhopal. In order to effect social justice and corporate responsibilty, the corporation must be penalized fiscally or they will never change. The profit motive is lacking otherwise. And that, sadly, is the only motive that corporations respond to.

I am truly disgusted (2)

theolein (316044) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994185)

Dow chemical suing people who have a yearly income of $1000 for $10000 after the tragedy in Bhopal (which still hasn't been cleaned up) is so low and disgusting that one wonders what kind of snarling inhuman lunatics run that company.

It is this kind of thing that breeds terrorists and whips up frenzy amongst people who have no recourse to medical care, much less fat corporate lawyers.

I can't carry on because I am absolutely speechless with disgust at those fucking bastards.

Play a little devils advocate. (3, Insightful)

bm_luethke (253362) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994187)

First off there seems to have been a genreal uproar over dows "response" link, notice even the author raelised it was a parody and not in any way from dow, so you can't really fault dow for that peice (though the author says " While writing this submission I noticed that I have become a victim of The Yes Men and "Dow's" response is actually one of their parodies! :-) The story is still valid " - umm, dow didn't write it but lets hate them for it anyway? plenty of reason to hate dow but using a parody to hate them really weakens your position.)

I don't really know why the copyright violations in this are DMCA, it seems that normal copyright and trademarks cover thier violations, and yes they are violations. They were before DMCA and still will be if the DMCA is repealed. Though this should not have forced the whole site down, just the removeal of the copyrighted/trademarked images (hey, make some parody version of them - that's legal, but you can't just copy thier images and pretend to be them). Plus they quote cybersquatting statutes, they don't really seem to be cybersquatting (though using dow-chemical is iffy on copyright, had they used something like dow-chemical-sucks they would have easily been in the parody/protest stuff, but they seemed to have intentionally tried to fool someone into thinking they were dow to get them there).

And lastly "Dow has committed a reprehensible act, even for corporate America, by suing the survivors for ten years of income ($10,000) for protesting Dow's failure to clean up the mess." No, even according to the greenpeace article the survivors carried contamited material to thier site - that's not legal. While I greatly sympathise with them (and definatly think they got screwed royally) that doesn't give you the right to do that. As neither does being rich give someone the right to pollute with impunity. Much like in the US many protestors seem to think that the first amendment gives them the right to trasspass and destroy property, it doesn't - gather on public land all you want, don't block traffic and not only are you legal but you garner much more sympathy.

In sum, they have a very legitimate complaint, dow chemical did some VERY bad stuff and deserve to be raped in court, and never have and probably never will. But that doesn't give you the right (in the US, or apparently india either) to do whatever you feel (eye-for-an-eye, tooth-for-a-tooth isn't in the constitution). Plus my final complaint is that we have only heard one side, greenpeace isn't really know for being exactly unbiased and giving complete stories. There are much more effective ways to try and get something, they failed, now all they do is make people much less sympathetic overall to their cause (maybe it makes them feel better though).

Re:Play a little devils advocate. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4994197)

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forty six quadringentquattuortrigintillion, nine hundred ninety seven quadringenttretrigintilliard, one hundred ninety four quadringenttretrigintillion, one hundred twenty six quadringentdotrigintilliard, nine hundred twenty one quadringentdotrigintillion, two hundred eighty four quadringentuntrigintilliard, three hundred thirty six quadringentuntrigintillion, two hundred six quadringenttrigintilliard, four hundred sixty three quadringenttrigintillion, three hundred thirteen quadringentnovemvigintilliard, eight hundred fifty nine quadringentnovemvigintillion, five hundred thirty seven quadringentoctovigintilliard, five hundred seventy seven quadringentoctovigintillion, two hundred quadringentseptenvigintilliard, four hundred sixty two quadringentseptenvigintillion, four hundred forty two quadringentsexvigintilliard, twenty nine quadringentsexvigintillion, sixty four quadringentquinvigintilliard, six hundred eighty one quadringentquinvigintillion, three hundred twenty six quadringentquattuorvigintilliard, eighty seven quadringentquattuorvigintillion, five hundred fifty eight quadringenttrevigintilliard, two hundred fifty seven quadringenttrevigintillion, four hundred eighty eight quadringentdovigintilliard, four hundred seventy quadringentdovigintillion, four hundred eighty nine quadringentunvigintilliard, three hundred eighty four quadringentunvigintillion, two hundred forty three quadringentvigintilliard, nine hundred eighty nine quadringentvigintillion, two hundred seventy quadringentnovemdecilliard, two hundred thirty six quadringentnovemdecillion, eight hundred eighty four quadringentoctodecilliard, nine hundred seventy eight quadringentoctodecillion, six hundred forty three quadringentseptendecilliard, sixty three quadringentseptendecillion, ninety three quadringentsexdecilliard, four quadringentsexdecillion, four hundred twenty two quadringentquindecilliard, nine hundred thirty nine quadringentquindecillion, six hundred three quadringentquattuordecilliard, three hundred seventy quadringentquattuordecillion, ten quadringenttredecilliard, five hundred forty six quadringenttredecillion, five hundred ninety five quadringentdodecilliard, three hundred eighty six quadringentdodecillion, three hundred two quadringentundecilliard, nine quadringentundecillion, seventy three quadringentdecilliard, forty three quadringentdecillion, nine hundred forty four quadringentnovemtilliard, four hundred eighty two quadringentnovemtillion, two hundred two quadringentoctotilliard, five hundred fifty nine quadringentoctotillion, ninety seven quadringentseptentilliard, four hundred six quadringentseptentillion, seven hundred quadringentsextilliard, five hundred ninety seven quadringentsextillion, three hundred thirty quadringentquintilliard, five hundred seventy quadringentquintillion, seven hundred ninety nine quadringentquattuortilliard, five hundred seven quadringentquattuortillion, eight hundred thirty two quadringenttretilliard, nine hundred sixty three quadringenttretillion, one hundred thirty quadringentdotilliard, nine hundred thirty eight quadringentdotillion, seven hundred thirty nine quadringentuntilliard, eight hundred eighty five quadringentuntillion, eighty quadringentilliard, one hundred ninety eight quadringentillion, four hundred sixteen trecentnovemnonagintilliard, two hundred fifty eight trecentnovemnonagintillion, six hundred thirty five trecentoctononagintilliard, one hundred ninety four trecentoctononagintillion, five hundred twenty two trecentseptennonagintilliard, nine hundred thirteen trecentseptennonagintillion, forty two trecentsexnonagintilliard, five hundred sixty two trecentsexnonagintillion, nine hundred thirty six trecentquinnonagintilliard, six hundred seventy nine trecentquinnonagintillion, eight hundred fifty nine trecentquattuornonagintilliard, five hundred eighty seven trecentquattuornonagintillion, four hundred ninety five trecenttrenonagintilliard, seven hundred twenty one trecenttrenonagintillion, thirty one trecentdononagintilliard, one hundred seventy three trecentdononagintillion, seven hundred forty seven trecentunnonagintilliard, seven hundred ninety six trecentunnonagintillion, four hundred eighteen trecentnonagintilliard, eight hundred ninety five trecentnonagintillion, sixty trecentnovemoctogintilliard, seven hundred one trecentnovemoctogintillion, nine hundred forty one trecentoctooctogintilliard, seven hundred seventeen trecentoctooctogintillion, five hundred six trecentseptenoctogintilliard, one trecentseptenoctogintillion, nine hundred thirty seven trecentsexoctogintilliard, one hundred fifty two trecentsexoctogintillion, four hundred thirty trecentquinoctogintilliard, thirty two trecentquinoctogintillion, three hundred sixty three trecentquattuoroctogintilliard, six hundred thirty one trecentquattuoroctogintillion, nine hundred thirty four trecenttreoctogintilliard, two hundred sixty five trecenttreoctogintillion, seven hundred ninety eight trecentdooctogintilliard, five hundred sixteen trecentdooctogintillion, two hundred thirty six trecentunoctogintilliard, forty seven trecentunoctogintillion, four hundred fifty one trecentoctogintilliard, two hundred nine trecentoctogintillion, eighty nine trecentnovemseptuagintilliard, eight hundred sixty four trecentnovemseptuagintillion, seven hundred seven trecentoctoseptuagintilliard, four hundred thirty trecentoctoseptuagintillion, seven hundred eighty trecentseptenseptuagintilliard, three hundred sixty two trecentseptenseptuagintillion, two hundred ninety eight trecentsexseptuagintilliard, three hundred seven trecentsexseptuagintillion, thirty eight trecentquinseptuagintilliard, one hundred ninety three trecentquinseptuagintillion, four hundred forty five trecentquattuorseptuagintilliard, four hundred eighty six trecentquattuorseptuagintillion, four hundred ninety three trecenttreseptuagintilliard, seven hundred fifty six trecenttreseptuagintillion, six hundred forty seven trecentdoseptuagintilliard, nine hundred ninety one trecentdoseptuagintillion, eight hundred four trecentunseptuagintilliard, two hundred fifty eight trecentunseptuagintillion, seven hundred seventy five trecentseptuagintilliard, five hundred seventy four trecentseptuagintillion, nine hundred seventy three trecentnovemsexagintilliard, eight hundred thirty three trecentnovemsexagintillion, nine hundred three trecentoctosexagintilliard, three hundred fifteen trecentoctosexagintillion, seven hundred thirty five trecentseptensexagintilliard, eighty two trecentseptensexagintillion, eight hundred ninety one trecentsexsexagintilliard, twenty nine trecentsexsexagintillion, three hundred ninety two trecentquinsexagintilliard, three hundred fifty nine trecentquinsexagintillion, three hundred fifty two trecentquattuorsexagintilliard, seven hundred fifty eight trecentquattuorsexagintillion, six hundred seventeen trecenttresexagintilliard, one hundred eighty five trecenttresexagintillion, nineteen trecentdosexagintilliard, nine hundred forty two trecentdosexagintillion, five hundred fifty four trecentunsexagintilliard, eight hundred thirty four trecentunsexagintillion, six hundred seventy one trecentsexagintilliard, eight hundred sixty one trecentsexagintillion, seventy four trecentnovemquinquagintilliard, five hundred forty eight trecentnovemquinquagintillion, seven hundred seventy two trecentoctoquinquagintilliard, four hundred thirty nine trecentoctoquinquagintillion, eight hundred eighty trecentseptenquinquagintilliard, seven hundred twenty nine trecentseptenquinquagintillion, six hundred six trecentsexquinquagintilliard, two hundred forty four trecentsexquinquagintillion, nine hundred eleven trecentquinquinquagintilliard, nine hundred forty trecentquinquinquagintillion, sixty six trecentquattuorquinquagintilliard, six hundred eighty trecentquattuorquinquagintillion, one hundred twelve trecenttrequinquagintilliard, eight hundred twenty three trecenttrequinquagintillion, eight hundred twenty four trecentdoquinquagintilliard, ninety five trecentdoquinquagintillion, eight hundred sixteen trecentunquinquagintilliard, four hundred fifty eight trecentunquinquagintillion, two hundred sixty one trecentquinquagintilliard, seven hundred sixty one trecentquinquagintillion, eight hundred sixty one trecentnovemquadragintilliard, seven hundred forty six trecentnovemquadragintillion, six hundred four trecentoctoquadragintilliard, thirty four trecentoctoquadragintillion, eight hundred two trecentseptenquadragintilliard, fifty six trecentseptenquadragintillion, four hundred sixty six trecentsexquadragintilliard, eight hundred twenty three trecentsexquadragintillion, one hundred forty three trecentquinquadragintilliard, seven hundred eighteen trecentquinquadragintillion, two hundred fifty five trecentquattuorquadragintilliard, four hundred ninety two trecentquattuorquadragintillion, seven hundred eighty four trecenttrequadragintilliard, seven hundred seventy nine trecenttrequadragintillion, three hundred eighty trecentdoquadragintilliard, nine hundred ninety one trecentdoquadragintillion, seven hundred forty nine trecentunquadragintilliard, five hundred eighty trecentunquadragintillion, two hundred fifty five trecentquadragintilliard, two hundred sixty three trecentquadragintillion, three hundred twenty three trecentnovemtrigintilliard, three hundred twenty six trecentnovemtrigintillion, five hundred thirty six trecentoctotrigintilliard, four hundred fifty seven trecentoctotrigintillion, seven hundred forty three trecentseptentrigintilliard, eight hundred ninety four trecentseptentrigintillion, one hundred fifty trecentsextrigintilliard, eight hundred forty eight trecentsextrigintillion, nine hundred fifty three trecentquintrigintilliard, nine hundred sixty nine trecentquintrigintillion, nine hundred two trecentquattuortrigintilliard, eight hundred eighteen trecentquattuortrigintillion, five hundred thirty trecenttretrigintilliard, fifty seven trecenttretrigintillion, eight hundred seventy trecentdotrigintilliard, eight hundred seventy six trecentdotrigintillion, two hundred twenty nine trecentuntrigintilliard, three hundred twenty nine trecentuntrigintillion, eight hundred three trecenttrigintilliard, three hundred thirty eight trecenttrigintillion, two hundred eighty five trecentnovemvigintilliard, seven hundred thirty five trecentnovemvigintillion, four hundred nineteen trecentoctovigintilliard, two hundred twenty eight trecentoctovigintillion, two hundred fifty nine trecentseptenvigintilliard, twenty two trecentseptenvigintillion, one hundred sixty nine trecentsexvigintilliard, six hundred two trecentsexvigintillion, six hundred sixty five trecentquinvigintilliard, five hundred thirty two trecentquinvigintillion, two hundred ten trecentquattuorvigintilliard, eight hundred thirty four trecentquattuorvigintillion, seven hundred eighty nine trecenttrevigintilliard, six hundred two trecenttrevigintillion, fifty one trecentdovigintilliard, six hundred eighty six trecentdovigintillion, five hundred forty six trecentunvigintilliard, eleven trecentunvigintillion, four hundred sixty six trecentvigintilliard, seven hundred thirty seven trecentvigintillion, nine hundred eighty one trecentnovemdecilliard, three hundred six trecentnovemdecillion, fifty six trecentoctodecilliard, two hundred forty seven trecentoctodecillion, four hundred eighty trecentseptendecilliard, fifty five trecentseptendecillion, seventy one trecentsexdecilliard, seven hundred eighteen trecentsexdecillion, two hundred fifty trecentquindecilliard, three hundred thirty three trecentquindecillion, seven hundred thirty seven trecentquattuordecilliard, five hundred two trecentquattuordecillion, two hundred sixty seven trecenttredecilliard, three hundred seven trecenttredecillion, three hundred forty four trecentdodecilliard, one hundred seventy eight trecentdodecillion, five hundred twelve trecentundecilliard, nine hundred fifty trecentundecillion, seven hundred thirty eight trecentdecilliard, five hundred ninety four trecentdecillion, three hundred thirty trecentnovemtilliard, six hundred eighty four trecentnovemtillion, three hundred forty trecentoctotilliard, eight hundred two trecentoctotillion, six hundred ninety eight trecentseptentilliard, two hundred twenty eight trecentseptentillion, nine hundred sixty three trecentsextilliard, nine hundred eighty six trecentsextillion, five hundred sixty two trecentquintilliard, seven hundred thirty two trecentquintillion, five hundred ninety seven trecentquattuortilliard, one hundred seventy five trecentquattuortillion, three hundred seventy two trecenttretilliard, eighty seven trecenttretillion, two hundred ninety five trecentdotilliard, six hundred forty nine trecentdotillion, seventy two trecentuntilliard, eight hundred thirty trecentuntillion, two hundred eighty nine trecentilliard, seven hundred forty nine trecentillion, seven hundred seventy one ducentnovemnonagintilliard, three hundred fifty eight ducentnovemnonagintillion, three hundred thirty ducentoctononagintilliard, eight hundred sixty seven ducentoctononagintillion, nine hundred fifty one ducentseptennonagintilliard, five hundred eight ducentseptennonagintillion, seven hundred ten ducentsexnonagintilliard, eight hundred fifty nine ducentsexnonagintillion, two hundred sixteen ducentquinnonagintilliard, seven hundred forty three ducentquinnonagintillion, two hundred eighteen ducentquattuornonagintilliard, five hundred twenty two ducentquattuornonagintillion, nine hundred eighteen ducenttrenonagintilliard, eight hundred eleven ducenttrenonagintillion, six hundred seventy ducentdononagintilliard, six hundred thirty seven ducentdononagintillion, four hundred forty eight ducentunnonagintilliard, four hundred ninety six ducentunnonagintillion, four hundred ninety eight ducentnonagintilliard, five hundred forty nine ducentnonagintillion, ninety four ducentnovemoctogintilliard, four hundred thirty ducentnovemoctogintillion, five hundred forty one ducentoctooctogintilliard, two hundred seventy seven ducentoctooctogintillion, four hundred forty four ducentseptenoctogintilliard, seventy nine ducentseptenoctogintillion, four hundred seven ducentsexoctogintilliard, nine hundred eighty nine ducentsexoctogintillion, five hundred thirty nine ducentquinoctogintilliard, eight hundred fifty seven ducentquinoctogintillion, four hundred sixty nine ducentquattuoroctogintilliard, four hundred fifty two ducentquattuoroctogintillion, seven hundred seventy two ducenttreoctogintilliard, one hundred thirty two ducenttreoctogintillion, one hundred sixty six ducentdooctogintilliard, five hundred eighty ducentdooctogintillion, eight hundred eighty five ducentunoctogintilliard, seven hundred fifty four ducentunoctogintillion, three hundred sixty ducentoctogintilliard, four hundred seventy seven ducentoctogintillion, four hundred eight ducentnovemseptuagintilliard, eight hundred forty two ducentnovemseptuagintillion, nine hundred thirteen ducentoctoseptuagintilliard, three hundred twenty seven ducentoctoseptuagintillion, two hundred ninety two ducentseptenseptuagintilliard, nine hundred forty eight ducentseptenseptuagintillion, six hundred ninety six ducentsexseptuagintilliard, eight hundred ninety seven ducentsexseptuagintillion, four hundred ninety six ducentquinseptuagintilliard, one hundred forty one ducentquinseptuagintillion, six hundred fourteen ducentquattuorseptuagintilliard, nine hundred nineteen ducentquattuorseptuagintillion, seven hundred thirty nine ducenttreseptuagintilliard, eight hundred forty five ducenttreseptuagintillion, four hundred thirty two ducentdoseptuagintilliard, eight hundred thirty five ducentdoseptuagintillion, eight hundred ninety four ducentunseptuagintilliard, three hundred twenty four ducentunseptuagintillion, four hundred seventy three ducentseptuagintilliard, six hundred one ducentseptuagintillion, three hundred eighty seven ducentnovemsexagintilliard, six hundred nine ducentnovemsexagintillion, six hundred forty three ducentoctosexagintilliard, seven hundred fifty ducentoctosexagintillion, five hundred fourteen ducentseptensexagintilliard, six hundred ninety nine ducentseptensexagintillion, two hundred fifteen ducentsexsexagintilliard, thirty two ducentsexsexagintillion, six hundred eighty three ducentquinsexagintilliard, seven hundred forty four ducentquinsexagintillion, five hundred twenty seven ducentquattuorsexagintilliard, seventy one ducentquattuorsexagintillion, seven hundred eighteen ducenttresexagintilliard, six hundred eighty four ducenttresexagintillion, ninety one ducentdosexagintilliard, eight hundred thirty two ducentdosexagintillion, one hundred seventy ducentunsexagintilliard, nine hundred forty eight ducentunsexagintillion, three hundred sixty nine ducentsexagintilliard, three hundred ninety six ducentsexagintillion, two hundred eighty ducentnovemquinquagintilliard, sixty one ducentnovemquinquagintillion, one hundred eighty four ducentoctoquinquagintilliard, five hundred ninety three ducentoctoquinquagintillion, seven hundred forty six ducentseptenquinquagintilliard, one hundred forty three ducentseptenquinquagintillion, five hundred eighty nine ducentsexquinquagintilliard, sixty eight ducentsexquinquagintillion, eight hundred eleven ducentquinquinquagintilliard, one hundred ninety ducentquinquinquagintillion, two hundred fifty three ducentquattuorquinquagintilliard, one hundred one ducentquattuorquinquagintillion, eight hundred seventy three ducenttrequinquagintilliard, five hundred ninety five ducenttrequinquagintillion, three hundred nineteen ducentdoquinquagintilliard, one hundred fifty six ducentdoquinquagintillion, one hundred seven ducentunquinquagintilliard, three hundred nineteen ducentunquinquagintillion, one hundred ninety six ducentquinquagintilliard, seventy one ducentquinquagintillion, one hundred fifty ducentnovemquadragintilliard, five hundred ninety eight ducentnovemquadragintillion, four hundred eighty eight ducentoctoquadragintilliard, seventy ducentoctoquadragintillion, twenty seven ducentseptenquadragintilliard, eighty eight ducentseptenquadragintillion, seven hundred five ducentsexquadragintilliard, eight hundred forty two ducentsexquadragintillion, seven hundred forty nine ducentquinquadragintilliard, six hundred five ducentquinquadragintillion, two hundred three ducentquattuorquadragintilliard, sixty three ducentquattuorquadragintillion, one hundred ninety four ducenttrequadragintilliard, one hundred ninety one ducenttrequadragintillion, one hundred sixty six ducentdoquadragintilliard, nine hundred twenty two ducentdoquadragintillion, one hundred six ducentunquadragintilliard, one hundred seventy six ducentunquadragintillion, one hundred fifty seven ducentquadragintilliard, six hundred nine ducentquadragintillion, three hundred sixty seven ducentnovemtrigintilliard, two hundred forty one ducentnovemtrigintillion, nine hundred forty eight ducentoctotrigintilliard, one hundred sixty ducentoctotrigintillion, six hundred twenty five ducentseptentrigintilliard, nine hundred eighty nine ducentseptentrigintillion, thirty two ducentsextrigintilliard, one hundred twenty seven ducentsextrigintillion, nine hundred eighty four ducentquintrigintilliard, seven hundred forty eight ducentquintrigintillion, eighty one ducentquattuortrigintilliard, seventy five ducentquattuortrigintillion, three hundred twenty four ducenttretrigintilliard, three hundred eighty two ducenttretrigintillion, six hundred thirty two ducentdotrigintilliard, ninety three ducentdotrigintillion, nine hundred thirteen ducentuntrigintilliard, seven hundred ninety six ducentuntrigintillion, four hundred forty four ducenttrigintilliard, six hundred sixty five ducenttrigintillion, seven hundred ducentnovemvigintilliard, six hundred one ducentnovemvigintillion, three hundred ninety one ducentoctovigintilliard, two hundred seventy eight ducentoctovigintillion, three hundred sixty ducentseptenvigintilliard, three hundred twenty three ducentseptenvigintillion, two ducentsexvigintilliard, two hundred sixty seven ducentsexvigintillion, four hundred thirty four ducentquinvigintilliard, two hundred ninety five ducentquinvigintillion, one hundred ninety four ducentquattuorvigintilliard, three hundred twenty five ducentquattuorvigintillion, six hundred seven ducenttrevigintilliard, two hundred eighty ducenttrevigintillion, six hundred sixty one ducentdovigintilliard, two hundred sixty ducentdovigintillion, one hundred nineteen ducentunvigintilliard, three hundred seventy eight ducentunvigintillion, seven hundred nineteen ducentvigintilliard, four hundred five ducentvigintillion, one hundred fifty one ducentnovemdecilliard, four hundred ninety seven ducentnovemdecillion, five hundred fifty five ducentoctodecilliard, one hundred eighty seven ducentoctodecillion, five hundred forty nine ducentseptendecilliard, two hundred fifty two ducentseptendecillion, one hundred thirty four ducentsexdecilliard, two hundred sixty four ducentsexdecillion, three hundred ninety four ducentquindecilliard, six hundred forty five ducentquindecillion, nine hundred sixty three ducentquattuordecilliard, eight hundred fifty three ducentquattuordecillion, nine hundred sixty four ducenttredecilliard, nine hundred thirteen ducenttredecillion, three hundred nine ducentdodecilliard, six hundred ninety seven ducentdodecillion, seven hundred seventy six ducentundecilliard, five hundred thirty three ducentundecillion, three hundred twenty nine ducentdecilliard, four hundred one ducentdecillion, eight hundred twenty two ducentnovemtilliard, one hundred fifty eight ducentnovemtillion, three ducentoctotilliard, one hundred eighty two ducentoctotillion, eight hundred eighty nine ducentseptentilliard, two hundred seventy eight ducentseptentillion, seventy two ducentsextilliard, three hundred sixty eight ducentsextillion, six hundred two ducentquintilliard, one hundred twenty eight ducentquintillion, nine hundred eighty two ducentquattuortilliard, seven hundred ten ducentquattuortillion, three hundred six ducenttretilliard, six hundred eighteen ducenttretillion, one hundred fifteen ducentdotilliard, one hundred eighteen ducentdotillion, nine hundred sixty four ducentuntilliard, one hundred thirty one ducentuntillion, eight hundred ninety three ducentilliard, six hundred fifty seven ducentillion, eight hundred forty five centnovemnonagintilliard, four hundred centnovemnonagintillion, two hundred ninety six centoctononagintilliard, eight hundred sixty centoctononagintillion, twelve centseptennonagintilliard, four hundred twenty centseptennonagintillion, three hundred ninety one centsexnonagintilliard, three hundred seventy six centsexnonagintillion, nine hundred sixty four centquinnonagintilliard, six hundred seventy centquinnonagintillion, one hundred eighty three centquattuornonagintilliard, nine hundred eighty three centquattuornonagintillion, five hundred ninety four centtrenonagintilliard, nine hundred fifty four centtrenonagintillion, one hundred twelve centdononagintilliard, four hundred eighty four centdononagintillion, five hundred sixty five centunnonagintilliard, five hundred ninety seven centunnonagintillion, three hundred twelve centnonagintilliard, four hundred sixty centnonagintillion, seven hundred thirty seven centnovemoctogintilliard, seven hundred ninety eight centnovemoctogintillion, seven hundred seventy seven centoctooctogintilliard, ninety two centoctooctogintillion, seventy one centseptenoctogintilliard, seven hundred six centseptenoctogintillion, seven hundred ten centsexoctogintilliard, eight hundred twenty four centsexoctogintillion, five hundred three centquinoctogintilliard, seven hundred seven centquinoctogintillion, four hundred fifty seven centquattuoroctogintilliard, two hundred twenty centquattuoroctogintillion, one hundred fifty five centtreoctogintilliard, fifteen centtreoctogintillion, eight hundred ninety nine centdooctogintilliard, five hundred ninety one centdooctogintillion, seven hundred sixty six centunoctogintilliard, two hundred forty four centunoctogintillion, nine hundred fifty seven centoctogintilliard, seven hundred sixty eight centoctogintillion, six centnovemseptuagintilliard, eight hundred two centnovemseptuagintillion, four hundred eighty two centoctoseptuagintilliard, nine hundred seventy six centoctoseptuagintillion, six hundred seventy three centseptenseptuagintilliard, nine hundred twenty centseptenseptuagintillion, three hundred ninety two centsexseptuagintilliard, nine hundred ninety five centsexseptuagintillion, four hundred ten centquinseptuagintilliard, one hundred sixty four centquinseptuagintillion, two hundred twenty four centquattuorseptuagintilliard, seven hundred seventy six centquattuorseptuagintillion, four hundred forty five centtreseptuagintilliard, six hundred seventy one centtreseptuagintillion, two hundred twenty two centdoseptuagintilliard, one hundred forty nine centdoseptuagintillion, eight hundred three centunseptuagintilliard, six hundred fifty seven centunseptuagintillion, nine hundred twenty seven centseptuagintilliard, seven hundred eight centseptuagintillion, four hundred twelve centnovemsexagintilliard, nine hundred twenty five centnovemsexagintillion, five hundred fifty five centoctosexagintilliard, five hundred forty two centoctosexagintillion, eight hundred seventeen centseptensexagintilliard, forty five centseptensexagintillion, five hundred seventy two centsexsexagintilliard, four hundred thirty centsexsexagintillion, eight hundred forty six centquinsexagintilliard, three hundred eighty nine centquinsexagintillion, nine hundred eighty eight centquattuorsexagintilliard, one hundred twenty nine centquattuorsexagintillion, nine hundred sixty centtresexagintilliard, five hundred nineteen centtresexagintillion, two 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six centdoquinquagintillion, eight hundred seventy nine centunquinquagintilliard, eight hundred seventy five centunquinquagintillion, six hundred ninety four centquinquagintilliard, three hundred fifteen centquinquagintillion, seventy eight centnovemquadragintilliard, six hundred fifty four centnovemquadragintillion, four hundred twenty centoctoquadragintilliard, fifty five centoctoquadragintillion, six hundred three centseptenquadragintilliard, four hundred sixty nine centseptenquadragintillion, six hundred twenty five centsexquadragintilliard, three hundred nine centsexquadragintillion, three hundred ninety nine centquinquadragintilliard, six hundred fifty three centquinquadragintillion, nine hundred fifty five centquattuorquadragintilliard, nine hundred thirty two centquattuorquadragintillion, three hundred ten centtrequadragintilliard, four hundred sixty six centtrequadragintillion, four hundred thirty centdoquadragintilliard, thirty nine centdoquadragintillion, one hundred forty six centunquadragintilliard, four hundred sixty five centunquadragintillion, eight hundred five centquadragintilliard, four hundred fifty two centquadragintillion, nine hundred sixty five centnovemtrigintilliard, fourteen centnovemtrigintillion, forty centoctotrigintilliard, nineteen centoctotrigintillion, four hundred twenty three centseptentrigintilliard, eight hundred ninety seven centseptentrigintillion, five hundred fifty two centsextrigintilliard, six hundred seventy five centsextrigintillion, five hundred thirty four centquintrigintilliard, seven hundred sixty eight centquintrigintillion, two hundred forty eight centquattuortrigintilliard, six hundred twenty four centquattuortrigintillion, six hundred thirty one centtretrigintilliard, nine hundred fifty one centtretrigintillion, four hundred thirty one centdotrigintilliard, four hundred ninety three centdotrigintillion, one hundred eighty eight centuntrigintilliard, one hundred seventy centuntrigintillion, nine hundred five centtrigintilliard, nine hundred seventy two centtrigintillion, five hundred eighty eight centnovemvigintilliard, seven hundred eighty centnovemvigintillion, one hundred eleven centoctovigintilliard, eight hundred fifty centoctovigintillion, two hundred eighty one centseptenvigintilliard, one hundred ninety centseptenvigintillion, five hundred fifty nine centsexvigintilliard, seventy three centsexvigintillion, six hundred seventy seven centquinvigintilliard, seven hundred seventy one centquinvigintillion, one hundred eighty seven centquattuorvigintilliard, four hundred thirty two centquattuorvigintillion, eight hundred fourteen centtrevigintilliard, eighty eight centtrevigintillion, six hundred seventy eight centdovigintilliard, six hundred seventy four centdovigintillion, two hundred eighty six centunvigintilliard, three hundred two centunvigintillion, one hundred eight centvigintilliard, two hundred seventy five centvigintillion, one hundred forty nine centnovemdecilliard, two hundred fifty eight centnovemdecillion, four hundred seventy seven centoctodecilliard, one hundred one centoctodecillion, two hundred ninety six centseptendecilliard, four hundred fifty one centseptendecillion, eight hundred thirty three centsexdecilliard, six hundred fifty one centsexdecillion, nine hundred seventy nine centquindecilliard, seven hundred seventeen centquindecillion, three hundred seventy five centquattuordecilliard, one hundred seventy centquattuordecillion, nine hundred centtredecilliard, five hundred five centtredecillion, six hundred seventy three centdodecilliard, six hundred forty five centdodecillion, nine hundred sixty four centundecilliard, six hundred ninety six centundecillion, three hundred fifty five centdecilliard, three hundred thirty one centdecillion, three hundred sixty nine centnovemtilliard, eight hundred nineteen centnovemtillion, two hundred ninety six centoctotilliard, two hundred sixty seven centseptentilliard, three hundred eighty nine centseptentillion, five hundred eighty three centsextilliard, two hundred eighty nine centsextillion, two hundred ninety nine centquintilliard, one hundred twenty six centquintillion, seven hundred thirty eight centquattuortilliard, three hundred forty five centquattuortillion, seven hundred twenty six centtretilliard, nine hundred eighty centtretillion, three hundred twenty five centdotilliard, nine hundred ninety eight centdotillion, nine hundred fifty five centuntilliard, nine hundred ninety seven centuntillion, five hundred one centilliard, one hundred seventy six centillion, six hundred sixty four novemnonagintilliard, two hundred one novemnonagintillion, forty two octononagintilliard, eight hundred eighty eight octononagintillion, five hundred forty six septennonagintilliard, eighty five septennonagintillion, six hundred ninety nine sexnonagintilliard, four hundred forty six sexnonagintillion, four hundred forty two quinnonagintilliard, eight hundred thirty four quinnonagintillion, one hundred ninety five quattuornonagintilliard, two hundred thirty two quattuornonagintillion, nine hundred forty eight trenonagintilliard, seven hundred eighty seven trenonagintillion, four hundred eighty eight dononagintilliard, four hundred ten dononagintillion, five hundred ninety five unnonagintilliard, seven hundred fifty unnonagintillion, one hundred ninety seven nonagintilliard, four hundred thirty eight nonagintillion, seven hundred eighty six novemoctogintilliard, three hundred fifty three novemoctogintillion, one hundred nineteen octooctogintilliard, two hundred four octooctogintillion, two hundred ten septenoctogintilliard, eight hundred fifty five septenoctogintillion, eight hundred four sexoctogintilliard, six hundred ninety two sexoctogintillion, four hundred sixty quinoctogintilliard, five hundred eighty two quinoctogintillion, five hundred thirty three quattuoroctogintilliard, eight hundred thirty two quattuoroctogintillion, nine hundred sixty seven treoctogintilliard, seven hundred seventy one treoctogintillion, nine hundred forty six dooctogintilliard, nine hundred eleven dooctogintillion, four hundred fifty nine unoctogintilliard, nine hundred one unoctogintillion, nine hundred twenty one octogintilliard, three hundred twenty four octogintillion, nine hundred eighty four novemseptuagintilliard, nine hundred sixty eight novemseptuagintillion, eight hundred ten octoseptuagintilliard, twenty one octoseptuagintillion, one hundred eighty nine septenseptuagintilliard, nine hundred sixty eight septenseptuagintillion, two hundred eighty four sexseptuagintilliard, nine hundred forty one sexseptuagintillion, three hundred thirty one quinseptuagintilliard, five hundred seventy three quinseptuagintillion, one hundred sixty four quattuorseptuagintilliard, fifty six quattuorseptuagintillion, three hundred four treseptuagintilliard, seven hundred twenty five treseptuagintillion, four hundred eighty doseptuagintilliard, eight hundred sixty eight doseptuagintillion, nine hundred twenty one unseptuagintilliard, eight hundred twenty three unseptuagintillion, four hundred forty two septuagintilliard, five hundred thirty eight septuagintillion, one hundred ninety nine novemsexagintilliard, five hundred ninety novemsexagintillion, three hundred eighty three octosexagintilliard, eight hundred fifty two octosexagintillion, four hundred twelve septensexagintilliard, seven hundred eighty six septensexagintillion, eight hundred forty sexsexagintilliard, eight hundred thirty three sexsexagintillion, four hundred seventy nine quinsexagintilliard, six hundred eleven quinsexagintillion, four hundred nineteen quattuorsexagintilliard, nine hundred seventy quattuorsexagintillion, one hundred one tresexagintilliard, seven hundred ninety two tresexagintillion, nine hundred seventy eight dosexagintilliard, three hundred fifty five dosexagintillion, six hundred fifty three unsexagintilliard, six hundred fifty unsexagintillion, seven hundred fifty five sexagintilliard, three hundred twenty nine sexagintillion, one hundred thirty eight novemquinquagintilliard, two hundred ninety eight novemquinquagintillion, six hundred fifty four octoquinquagintilliard, two hundred forty six octoquinquagintillion, two hundred twenty five septenquinquagintilliard, three hundred forty six septenquinquagintillion, eight hundred twenty seven sexquinquagintilliard, two hundred seven sexquinquagintillion, five hundred three quinquinquagintilliard, six hundred six quinquinquagintillion, seven hundred forty quattuorquinquagintilliard, seven hundred forty five quattuorquinquagintillion, nine hundred fifty six trequinquagintilliard, nine hundred fifty eight trequinquagintillion, one hundred twenty seven doquinquagintilliard, three hundred eighty three doquinquagintillion, seven hundred forty eight unquinquagintilliard, seven hundred seventeen unquinquagintillion, eight hundred twenty five quinquagintilliard, nine hundred eighteen 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octotrigintilliard, fifty five octotrigintillion, eight hundred forty nine septentrigintilliard, seven hundred twelve septentrigintillion, three hundred seventy seven sextrigintilliard, nine hundred seventy eight sextrigintillion, nine hundred eighty four quintrigintilliard, nine hundred twenty one quintrigintillion, eight hundred thirty nine quattuortrigintilliard, nine hundred ninety seven quattuortrigintillion, thirty seven tretrigintilliard, four hundred fifteen tretrigintillion, eight hundred ninety seven dotrigintilliard, six hundred seventy four dotrigintillion, one hundred fifty four untrigintilliard, eight hundred thirty untrigintillion, seven hundred eight trigintilliard, six hundred twenty nine trigintillion, one hundred forty five novemvigintilliard, four hundred eighty four novemvigintillion, seven hundred twenty four octovigintilliard, five hundred thirty six octovigintillion, seven hundred twenty four septenvigintilliard, five hundred seventy two septenvigintillion, six 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eighty eight quattuordecillion, one hundred ninety six tredecilliard, two hundred tredecillion, fourteen dodecilliard, eight hundred sixty eight dodecillion, five hundred seventy five undecilliard, six hundred forty undecillion, two hundred thirty three decilliard, one hundred thirty six decillion, five hundred nine nonilliard, one hundred forty five nonillion, six hundred twenty eight octilliard, one hundred twenty seven octillion, one hundred ninety one septilliard, three hundred fifty four septillion, eight hundred fifty eight sextilliard, two hundred seventy five sextillion, eighty three quintilliard, nine hundred seven quintillion, eight hundred ninety one quadrilliard, four hundred sixty nine quadrillion, nine hundred seventy nine trilliard, nineteen trillion, four hundred twenty six billiard, two hundred twenty four billion, eight hundred eighty three milliard, seven hundred eighty nine million, four hundred sixty three thousand, five hundred fifty one

is mersenne prime #22

Thing needs help (1)

somebaudy (594704) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994202)

Feel like defending the right to parody, free speech, etc? Grab your Paypal and push that loading bar [thing.net] to the right.

Toss this nutjob in prison. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4994211)

The guy running that site that was shutdown is a criminal under the DMCA and he needs to be punished harshly for this severe infraction. Folks, the law is the law and as such must be obeyed at all times, minus the exemptions for government employees and media corporations of course. This is a socialist country and you are here to serve the state. Before you start complaining, socialist systems have been proven to be the best. Anyone who belittles anyone in the ruling class needs to be punished. Just pay your taxes, obey and support all laws, and shut the hell up.

Umm... (1)

Spazntwich (208070) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994214)

Is anyone else more than a little confused about what is and isn't a parody in all of this?

Dow killed lots of people and released a press release about it and now people have made a parody of it but the parody supposedly infringed on the DMCA and DOW released another press release but that was just a parody but DOW is really suing people but that's a parody of a parody and now the DMCA has grown arms and a mouth and is devouring babies?

Re:Umm... (1)

Profane Motherfucker (564659) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994298)

Not just babies. Entire fucking villages! The DMCA will be, according to some extremely fucking well-placed sources, classified as a weapon of mass destruction. Anyone carrying documents invoking it, or viewing PDF files related to it across international borders will be circumsized and anally raped, as they are Enemies of the State.

You heard it here first. I scooped that Drudge Motherfucker too.

Dow's Responses (5, Insightful)

backtick (2376) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994227)

Far be it from me to think walking away from an ecological disaster is a good thing, but from what I can see, according to both the US and Indian courts, Dow has done everything they said they'd do relating to this, and everything the lawsuits against them said they had to do.

The paid ~$500 million to the Indian Government for ongoing cleanup, to create a medical program for anyone who lives in the affected area, and to cover things like ongoing monitoring of the chemical creep. They also paid out an additional ~$20 million to build and maintain a new hospital specifically in the area to handle any related medical claims. They also added an additional ~$55 million dollars to the hospital support funds when they bought out UCI.

They actually have paid out far more than the lawsuits against them in US courts originally stated (where the Indian government received a ruling for ~$350 million). I think all told that Dow has produced over $600 million for cleanup and ongoing support and healthcare.

All in all, most of the cleanup, treatment and monitoring of chemical contamination in the area is supposed to be handled by the Indian Government, not by Dow directly. If those hundreds of millions of dollars are being spent somewhere else, are people asking the government (or whoever they've appointed to handle the situation) where it's going?

This is especially apt as many of the court cases have focused on Dow's liability, and the majority still uphold the 'reasonable doubt' that Dow was criminally liable (which is why they still haven't tried very hard to get Warren Anderson shipped their for homicide charges), and even some went so far as to support the findings of 3rd party teams that the chemical release was a result of a deliberate act by a disgruntled worker.

Now, it's been 18 years, and I don't personally have any knowledge of anything to do with Bhopal beyond what I can read. However, based on that information, I think a lot of this is the result of PR by Greenpeace and others who conveniently ignore the things that Dow *has* done.

As an aside, I don't work for Dow, have any relatives who work for Dow, or own stock in Dow (unless one of those pathetic 401k funds that are basically WORTHLESS right now has shares, in which case I don't give a damn). I just see a lot of knee-jerk reactions and wonder if a lot of people who 'know about bhopal' have ever done more than read 1 website or less? Could Dow be a tool of Satan designed to make life on Earth a living hell, run completely by unfeeling demons who want to kill and maim innocent people? Sure. Is it probably that black-and-white? I really doubt it. It's only fair to research both sides.

Whither Globalization? (4, Insightful)

teetam (584150) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994228)

I grew up in India and whenever I think back to the Bhopal tragedy, I still feel nauseated. American politicians today who scream about Iraq gassing its own people should take a look at this.

A negligent American company releases poisonous gases in a third-world country and kills or injures tens of thousands of (dark-skinned) people. You would think the world would be outraged.

No. Suddenly, Dow chemicals was no longer a global company - it was an American company, run by American citizens who are bound only by American laws! The Indians had to struggle very hard to bring these people to court - it is still not over, 18 years after the 'accident'.

Globalization is a wonderful thing, but only if all such aspects are dealt with. People tend to forget that free markets in countries like the USA work well only when the companies are governed by law and regulated by watchdog organizations. While the West aggressively pushes for global free markets, they don't seem to realize that there is no global law and no global watchdog or regulatory body.

What Dow chemicals did is an extremity, but there are many other simpler violations. Think about it - Coke sells cans in USA, among hundreds of other countries. That is great. But, how many of these countries have proper recycling facilities? Many third world countries are being pressurized by the world bank to open up to MNCs and are they are all becoming dumping grounds for these multi national companies. Heck, most of these countries don't even have proper drinking water for its population, but Coke and Pepsi are available everywhere!

Re:Whither Globalization? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4994254)

The difference between Dow and Iraq is one of intent. Hussein did it PURPOSELY to kill those people. Dow did it accidentally. Does that mean they are blame free? Of course not, but it's the same line between manslaughter and murder. Different crimes with different consequences, yet both result in someone else's death.

People always point to globalization as a problem. Globalization already happened. It's over. The real problem is corporatism. Do you know how many globalization protestors eat chinese food and never realize that's globalization too?

Re:Whither Globalization? (2)

teetam (584150) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994288)

I am not protesting globalization. As I said, it is a wonderful thing.

What I am concerned about is why steps are not being taken by the advocates of globalization to ensure corporations and its executives are held responsible for its actions?

Why is Nike able to get away with sweat shops in Indonesia where people work in inhuman conditions?

Why are the other junk food companies are held responsible for the amount of garbage they generate?

Are there effective pollution checks in place all over the world, just like in the West?

Sure, most of the responsibility lies with that country itself. But, let's face it - some of these countries haven't even solved their basic problems of food and water yet!

In the place of corporate appeasement, if the West starts to have real capitalism, may be these things will be resolved. Till then, companies will use "globalization" as an excuse for circumventing wage laws, pollution control laws and consumer safety laws.

USA - the world's biggest polluter. So what's new? (1, Flamebait)

WIAKywbfatw (307557) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994264)

The United States is the world's biggest polluter. This isn't trolling. This isn't flaming. This is fact.

Four percent of the world's population, 25 percent of the pollution. Way to go, USA.

Recent American achievements in the "who cares if your kids got asthma?" race:
  • Torpedoing any serious effort to curb greenhouse gas emissions in the 1997 Kyoto agreement (thanks, Bill Clinton).
  • Later reneging on America's commitment to ratify that agreement, despite the fact that 178 other nations have done so (thanks, George W. Bush).
  • Failing to tackle arsenic pollution in its own drinking water (currently at levels way above those that would be illegal in Europe and elsewhere) until 2004 (thanks again, Bill).
  • Attempting to reverse that legislation, only to have it blow up in his face (thanks again, Dubya).
  • Allowing Alcoa, the world's third largest Aluminium maker, to profit from a loophole in Texas environmental laws by further polluting that state with 60,000 tons of sulphur dioxide each year (from which Paul O'Neill, Dubya's Secretary to the Treasury profited).
  • Cutting funding for research into cleaner, more fuel efficient cars by 28% (Dubya again).
  • Reversing an age-old bi-partisan policy of demanding more fuel effieciency from car makers (Bill again).
  • Carrying on that policy (Dubya again).
  • Exempting SUVs from having to meet the same minimum mileage requirements of other cars (Bill again).
  • Cancelling the 2004 deadline for car makers to develop prototype high-mileage cars (Dubya again).
  • Breaking a campaign promise to invest $100 million into rain forest conservation (Dubya again).
  • Vetoing a proposal to increase public access to information about the potential consequences of chemical plant accidents (Dubya again).
  • Refusing to honour an international accord to enforce a 1972 treaty banning germ warfare (Dubya again).
  • Cutting $500 million from the Environmental Protection Agency's budget (Dubya again).
  • Ignoring campaign promises to regulate carbon dioxide emissions (Dubya again).
  • Proposing the opening up of previously unspoilt national monuments in Alaska and elsewhere in the hunt for yet more coal, oil and gas (Dubya again).
  • Permitting oil and gas developments off the coast of Florida and in Montana forests (Dubya again).
  • Attempting to reverse legislation protecting 60 million acres of national forest from logging and road building (Dubya again).
  • Promoting the development of "mini-nukes, in direct violation of the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty (Dubya again).


  • The list goes on and on.

    Not only is the US the world's biggest polluter, it's also the world's biggest consumer. Per capita, Americans use more energy, more oil, more gas than any other nation in the world.

    Even the most patriotic simpleton has got to see that this isn't something to be proud of - if nothing else, the shit's going to hit the fan sooner or later. Why not try and do something about it?

Re:USA - the world's biggest polluter. So what's n (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#4994295)

You just don't get it, do ya Scott?

It's simple really. We use up all the oil, THEN we release our new super energy source only available from the United States, and BOOYAH! 3rd subjugation for the next 100 years!

How many people... (2)

RenQuanta (3274) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994340)

...are going to use the Greenpeace letter generator [greenpeace.org] to send a complain to the Dow CEO? It'd be interesting to get a gauge on how much mail he'll be getting...

In Soviet America (0, Troll)

DarkKnightRadick (268025) | more than 11 years ago | (#4994348)

The Corporation says "FUCK OFF!"
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