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Discovering New Music?

Cliff posted more than 11 years ago | from the seeking-a-new-sound dept.

Music 572

captainclever asks: "As an avid music fan, I'm keen on discovering new artists that I will like. I have discovered a few by listening to internet radio, and writing down the names of songs that take my fancy. I had a play with The Digital Music Network, but it was very intrusive, full of adverts and only worked in Windows. I found it quite a hard topic to google for as there is so much stuff about music. Has anyone come accoss a decent system that can suggest some good artists to me based on my existing listening habbits?" Word of mouth, of course, is the tried and true method of promoting a new group. Are there weblogs that allow users to discuss music much like Slashdot discusses "news"?

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IN SOVIET RUSSIA (-1)

IN SOVIET RUSSIA (621411) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010610)

New music discovers you!

FP! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5010615)

First post, now thats a good band :-)

my post is first (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5010616)

and the post being first is what makes me specialler than you

News? (5, Funny)

keesh (202812) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010624)

Are there weblogs that allow users to discuss music much like Slashdot discusses "news"?
You mean a weblog with lots of duplicate entries about last year's music?

Re:News? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5010702)

And lots of Spears vs Aguilera flamewars?

Re:News? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5010759)

>> last year's music

Funny comment, but this phrase bugs me. It makes it sound like music is some sort of fashion show and you have to have the latest and greatest to be cool. In fact, some of the world's greatest music was created before you were born. To be fair, some of it is also probably being created today, but this sort of poser attitude is irritating.

Re:News? (2, Insightful)

DaytonCIM (100144) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010774)

Hmmmm... yup yup. Yahoo groups has lots and lots of music "discussion" groups. Problem is most only want to discuss POP music divas and what Britney or Shakira wore to [insert one of thousands of POP awards shows].

A decent system? (-1)

perl_god (578135) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010627)

Has anyone come accoss a decent system that can suggest some good artists to me based on my existing listening habbits?

Sure. It's called HAVING FRIENDS.

Re:A decent system? (1)

Goldberg's Pants (139800) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010756)

Given some of the crap tastes my friends have, that's not always a good method though. For every great band a friend has introduced me too, they've tried to get into a crap one.

I'm currently getting into Japanese music, and that's REALLY hard to find decent recommendations for.

Amazon (4, Informative)

mocker (197762) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010629)

Go to amazon and see what other people have bought based on a music selection. I've used this before and found some great new music.

Why don't you start one? (1)

8282now (583198) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010631)

Hey that's a great idea. Don't know if one exists either but then again... why don't you start one??

You could even use ... shall I say it... SLASH?

Tried this? (2)

Cali Thalen (627449) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010633)

launch.yahoo.com

Used to be launch.com, but they got taken over by Yahoo. You need to go through a hoop or two to set it up well, but then you can get similar or 'recommended' songs.

It's not bad, there are a few ads, and the player is proprietary (and I can't vouch for Mac support), but it's been pretty good to me.

Re:Tried this? (3, Informative)

imcclure (630440) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010688)

Try this site: www.gnoosic.com. Based on what you like, it will give you similiar artists.

Re:Tried this? (2)

airuck (300354) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010795)

I did try it and no matter what band I entered "Omara Portunundo" was recommended. Gee, that band must really have universal appeal. It would be really ironic if the slashdot effect caused the sudden popularity of this band.

Re:Tried this? (2)

SquadBoy (167263) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010802)

Very good I found a new band that I might like. They are called Switchblade Symphony. Now if there was only a way I could download a couple of tracks to listen I'd most likely go out and buy a couple of CDs. Oh well too bad Napster is dead.

Too much trash out there for me to risk my money without being able to get a handful of tracks. :(

Re:Tried this? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5010689)

Yep launch is great. Has anyone ever managed to get it to work under linux?

I still love Groove Salad (5, Informative)

sulli (195030) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010635)

on SomaFM [somafm.com] . Donate as it's 100% non-profit.

Re:I still love Groove Salad (2, Informative)

Nutrimentia (467408) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010717)

Me too! I didn't realize that they were back on the air though following the CARP debacle that forced them to shut down. This makes me so happy!!!

Shoutcast (0)

Gene303 (610986) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010636)

www.shoutcast.com a project of Nullsoft lists many many internet radio stations you can listen to using either Winamp, Itunes, or XMMS. Basically anything that supports streaming mp3s. I have used this system to write down the names of many great artists, and for Winamp there is even a plugin to capture the stream if you like it. Although, that is probably illegal.

Depending on music (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5010638)

Best bet is to hit the clubs and try to talk to the DJs...I've been able to talk w/ Mixin Marc (chicago DJ for those who don't have a clue)..also ministryofsound.com also has good info if ur into that type of music...

test (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5010641)

test

Audiogalaxy was the best (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5010642)

...and was, of course, slaughtered by Big Audio. The mix of mp3 browsing by group coupled with a mini-forum on the same page was a great way to get word-of-mouth suggestions.

Writing about music is like dancing to a book... (3, Interesting)

dagg (153577) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010644)

I often run across blogs that discuss music, but most of them are specialized (lots of metal). And even from what I find, I've found it increasingly difficult to read about what others think about a particular song. I mean, writing about music is like dancing to a book.

Re:Writing about music is like dancing to a book.. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5010703)

You say that, but really you're just a 14-year-old gaybo whose balls haven't dropped yet.

Best new group: Johnny and the Niggers (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5010647)

They really rock!

Re:Best new group: Johnny and the Niggers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5010683)

you should probably be shot.

Re:Best new group: Johnny and the Niggers (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5010760)

I should shoot your mother... in the face... with my jizz...

Tool (2)

dlur (518696) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010649)

It may not be the answer you were looking for, but Tool [toolband.com] covers just about everything I look for in music.

Of course if you were looking for other stuff that doesn't come from a record company then this place [mp3.com] has a pretty decent search feature of downloadable mp3s.

Re:Tool (1)

ZenBased (593709) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010728)

agree on the tool thing.. but erm mp3.com is great, it also has stuff from record companies. And sometimes you can download music for free. I actually discovered some nice artists there and bought their album after listning some mp3s.

why based on your listening habits? (3, Informative)

ceejayoz (567949) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010652)

If you want to discover new music, why do you want something to give you suggestions based on stuff you already know?

Ask your friends what they like... download random songs, etc. One of my favorite ways is to browse other users' files on file sharing programs. Who knows, you might find something completely new and unexpected.

That's how I discovered Apocalyptica [apocalyptica.com] - rock'n'roll on cellos - and Our Lady Peace.

Re:why based on your listening habits? (2)

nomadic (141991) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010720)

Ask your friends what they like...

Most of the time you'll just hear about what bands THEY like. A lot of them will be truly awful garage bands your friends like just because they know someone in the band.

"Here, listen to this!"

"Good grief, that's awful! Just a lot of hackneyed grunge rock with substandard production values, an overly loud drummer, and a guitarist who plays the same 3 chords over and over again."

"Yeah, doesn't that sound sweet? -I- know the drummer, he's a good friend of mine."

www.digitallyimported.com (2, Informative)

pshuman (68722) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010654)

DI [digitallyimported.com] is a great site with a variaty of music styles. I have found a number of "new to me" artists and DJs here.

The web site has comment sections for discussing the current play list. The streamed mp3 format works great in Windows, Solaris, Linux, and Mac.

Re:www.digitallyimported.com (1)

pshuman (68722) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010691)

make that a small variety

Have you tried P2P? (2)

hoegg (132716) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010657)

I have discovered many good new artists using my favorite P2P software. In fact, 5 of the 7 CDs in my last order were artists I discovered that way. You just search for stuff you like, and then look through the collections of the people that have the music you like.

Of course, I bet this works a lot better for smaller artists than the huge ones, so YMMV

mp3 + cddb + p2p (1)

dazdaz (77833) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010659)

Some clever of interfacing with freecddb and possibly p2p and possibly a commercial entity (shop) would be very interesting.

So you select piano, and then go into artists etc.

Does anything like this exist?

College Radio! (5, Insightful)

RumGunner (457733) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010660)

No matter what city I go to, there's usually a college radio station.

I'm actually in college, and I volunteer at one, so I'm probably a little biased, but college radio is by far the most progressive of all radio.

Re:College Radio! (2)

rmohr02 (208447) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010784)

college radio is by far the most progressive of all radio
<sarcasm>What about ClearChannel?</sarcasm>

College Radio! (4, Insightful)

hiryuu (125210) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010663)

If you can stomach newswires being read by teenagers who barely have any grasp of proper English or public speaking skills, college radio is a great way to find stuff off the mainstream, particularly if it's a station with a good-sized audience, like WSOU from Seton Hall [wsou.net] . For those outside the central-NJ area, they do web-cast.


CD Baby (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5010666)

CD Baby [cdbaby.com]

I like their feature where you can search for artists similiar to popular artists you may like.

New Music (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5010667)

Imagine a beowulf cluster of these!

SoulSeek (2, Informative)

CharlesV (22919) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010669)

Soulseek [slsk.org] has done me well on the finding new music department. It's windows chiefly with some kind of broken mac and linux ports, but on the windows side, at least, allows you to browse users files and there's also a section in the userinfo for your favorite artists. Search for your favorite albums and browse the folders and download random crap.

Taste isn't a science, you can't break it down. Just experiment.

Non-band specific parts of band-specific boards (2, Informative)

ethank (443757) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010670)

You should try this. Go to a site for a band you like, and see if their discussion boards have non-specific music forums.

For REM you have my site, murmurs.com which has a HUGE non-REM music section with very diverse tastes.

U2 has interference.com

Radiohead used to have greenplastic.com for boards, but I think ateaseweb is the best.

Most big fansites have something similar. You'd be surprised what you find.

Ethan

olympus d380 (-1)

blackgasmask (631716) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010672)

Two weeks ago I was buying an olympus D-380 at Circuit City. The manager wanted $223.99 for it. I informed him that I had just bought just such a camera the previous week at a competing store for $120.59. I also told him that some day I would be able to buy a 14 gigapixle Fuji over the Internet for $399. He turned with a twinkle in his eye that caught me off my usual guard, laughed and said, "Discovering new Music?".

um....this may be obvious, but (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5010673)

...radio?

pitchforkmedia.com (1)

tr0tsky (207672) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010674)

It leans toward the indie-rock scene, but pitchfork media [pitchforkmedia.com] is a good source for up-and-coming music that tends to be rather good (imho).

Trademark, please (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5010675)

> "I found it quite a hard topic to google for"

That's a trademark buddy. Even if you're referring to the Googleplex Star Thinker [internode.net] the word still deserves a capital G.

Try KEXP radio station (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5010676)

www.kexp.org

It's a station from the University of Washington and supported by the Experienced Music Project (Paul Allen's thing) that broadcasts on the internet (they stream in mp3 and a cd quality stream). They play every damn thing you can imagine. They archive all their shows and have live playlists so you can see who is being played at anytime. This station has introduced countless new bands and genre's of music to me.

You really will find new stuff listening here.

SBC Yahoo DSL (2, Funny)

TexTex (323298) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010679)

SBC Yahoo DSL told me that I might like salsa music. My wife didn't even know that I liked salsa music.

Try cdbaby.com, they have samples on-line (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5010680)

http://www.cdbaby.com

It's a small independent web-based distributor with a cool way for people to get hold of great music. They have lots samples and the money gets pretty darn directly to the artists (as opposed to those recording with the RIAA).

Do it the old fashioned way, (5, Insightful)

codexus (538087) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010681)

talk to people. Find forums and IRC channels related to artists or musical genres you like and start making friends. Chat with them about the music you like and I'm sure you'll find people with lots of suggestions on what to try.

How About Getting Outside? (1)

Pave Low (566880) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010684)

I find the Internet is great for finding music that I already like, but nothing beats going out the bars, clubs, concerts or whatever venues you dig to discover something new.

Getting word of mouth from the live crowds, bands, and promotors certainly any systems you'll find online.

Outside? (2)

codexus (538087) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010751)

Did you say "Outside"? Another heretic!! Burn him!!!

allmusic.com (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5010686)

Try allmusic.com . Type in an artist you like and it will have other similiar artists and grouped by styles etc. It also has other info about their albums and bio.

cdnow / amazon (1)

bigskinnee (155373) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010690)

I always found cdnow to be great at this. You tell it what albums you own, and it recommends other albums/bands that you might like. I have bought and loved many new CD's with this feature.

However now that CDNOW is part of Amazon some of this functionality is no loger there. I have not found the option to tell Amazon what CD's I already own. But just by viewing a bunch of CD's I have, Amazon was able to recommend new stuff to me.

Re:cdnow / amazon (2, Informative)

bigskinnee (155373) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010721)

I almost forgot.

I like Indie Rock / Emo / Punk / Hardcore and I have found that just by browsing alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.indie I have found lots of new, very good music to listen to and explore.

Interpol just rocks the Casba

Here's one I like (3, Informative)

core plexus (599119) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010693)

http://artists.iuma.com/ [iuma.com] and for an example here is a page where you can download the songs, etc. here [iuma.com]

Re:Here's one I like (2)

SomeoneGotMyNick (200685) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010764)

You beat me to the post.

IUMA is a great place to get info and music samples from new artists (unsigned) from almost every genre. It's surprising that not too many know of it (maybe that's a good thing). It's been around since before 1996 when I first found it.

Amazon lists, Band sites (2, Informative)

Nutrimentia (467408) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010697)

Amazon does a decent job of recommneding stuff that you might like based on other people's purchasing habits. One method that I've found useful is to create a wishlist of albums that you want or like (or even own). Amazon wil provide a list of other artists requested or purchased by people who requested or purchased the same thing you just did. Plus using the wishlist is an easy-to-access way to keep track of the stuff you want, but it is also pretty easy to get carried away. I have something like 250 books, music, and dvds on my list...

Also check out interviews with band members and check their homepages. They often talk about other bands they like or people who have influenced them. Depending on the music you like, certain members may play in a few different bands, or may sit in on concert sets of other bands. I listen to a lot of live music [etree.org] and many of the artists I like to collect I discovered by grabbing shows that an artist I already knew about sat in on.

Message boards and fan sites probably make decent ways to hear about people, as well as topical magazines (ie, GuitarPlayer, BassPlayer, maybe ComputerMusic, etc.).

Don't forget to ask other people at the shows you see what they listen to. CHeck out the local listings of bands in the area. Take the plunge and go see a show of an unknown that plays in a club that often hosts music you like.

Etc, etc, ad nauseam, and so on.

Participatory new music: songfight! (1)

Great_Jehovah (3984) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010699)

meanwhile.songfight.net [songfight.net]

Check out the archives and the discussion board.

gnod (2)

netsharc (195805) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010701)

Well, while looking for info about Massive Attack , I came upon this.. not sure if it really works, try it and see - gnod [gnoosic.com] .

audiogalaxy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5010705)

back when audiogalaxy was around, they would take your shared library then match it with others and offer suggestions...

it was the best ever.

for jtechno i listen to www.gwm.com (mp3)
and i love mc chris... www.mcchris.com (mp3)

Napster (5, Funny)

ka9dgx (72702) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010706)

I like this program called Napster, since using it I bought a ton more CDs, and you can see what other people have in their collections... it's truely the future of music, the artist must love it, it's been boosting the hell out of their sales.

Of course, it's been a while since I used it, so your experience may vary.

--Mike--

Shameless plug (1)

cblood (323189) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010766)

Lots of independent record labels have websites like mine http://www.sonictrout.com/bands

Try this. (1)

imcclure (630440) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010714)

If you want to find out the names of new artists, try gnoosic.com. Based on artists you enter, it will give you lists of artists you might like.

Live 365 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5010715)

http://www.live365.com [live365.com]
Lots of theme-based radio stations, search engine and best of all: they pay the RIAA tax^H^H^Hfee. Those stations won't be shut down by the Evil Powers that Be.
I've discovered quite some bands I happened to like.

Best band of the new millennium... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5010716)

http://baptisi.com/artists/tbr/

I think the music just speaks for itself, duuuude

The All Music guide (1)

senbei (86600) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010719)

The All Music Guide [allmusic.com] is definitely a good start to find new music. Even the most obscure releases are usually reviewed if they're somewhat interesting. They also show the hilights songs for almost every albums, allowing users to easily retrieve a few good songs from p2p application in order to find out if the cd is worth buying.

But their most useful feature is the way you can easily find similar artists, genre, and easily browse through them.

A must have site for your bookmark :).

Borders (3, Informative)

TekkonKinkreet (237518) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010722)

At the Borders near me they have a setup with a pair of headphones and an infrared bar code scanner. You can pick any CD off the shelf, scan it, and can then listen to a minute or so of any track. I believe the system imposes a very faint intermittent beep over the audio, too, for obvious reasons--I couldn't hear it on all tracks.

It made for a very pleasant and educational half hour of music browsing for me (annoying, though, that about 2/3 of the stations were mal/nonfunctioning).

Oh, i know this one (5, Interesting)

balog (13684) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010723)

It's gnod [gnod.net] .

From the page:

Gnod is a self-adapting system that learns about the outer world by asking its visitors what they like and what they don't like. In this instance of gnod all is about music. Gnod is kind of a search engine for music you don't know about. It will ask you what music you like and then think about what you might like too. When I set gnod online its database was completely empty. Now it contains thousands of bands and quite some knowledge about who likes what. And gnod learns more every day. Enjoy :o)

Re:Oh, i know this one (2)

dlur (518696) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010794)

This site was pretty cool, although when I put my 3 suggestions in, it just came up with a list of artists I already had. I tried again with several different scenarios, but it always came up with stuff I already have and like. I wasn't able to get it to give me anything that I had never heard of before.

allmusic.com (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5010725)

allmusic.com

reviews, guides, discographies, 'sounds similar to', etc etc

rivaled only by amazon.com

meat space (1)

neverkevin (601884) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010729)

I hear that there are these things called clubs. From what I understand lots of local performer play music there. If you live in a big town, they probably clubs that play just one type of music, even one type that you maybe interested in. Some of the people even sell cds of their work or let you record it for FREE.

But I have only heard of these things cause I am chained to this computer :(

Discovering New Music? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5010730)

Discovering New Music?? More like CELDA!

In Russia Soviet... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5010731)

you make new music!

or...er...

p2p suggestion (2)

GuyMannDude (574364) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010733)

This doesn't help you at all but I've always wished that people would fill out the "description" field of mp3's they trade on p2p services like KaZaA with suggestions of similiar artists. After all, there's not much need for a description field for an mp3 file anyhow -- it's just free space to write something. I'd personally love it if people would take the time to write something along the lines of "Very similiar in style to Band1, Band2 and Band3" or Song1, Song2, etc.

What I've resorted to is using Amazon.com to look at what other bands could be similiar and then search KaZaA and seeing for myself. You know how Amazon lists "people who bought this item also bought albums by Artist1, Artist2, etc.", right? Of course, this method wouldn't work for artists so obscure that amazon doesn't feature them.

I'm interested to see what other suggestions people come up with here. But I think filling out those description fields for mp3s on p2p services would really help a lot.

GMD

It's like your spefically refering to gnoosic.... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5010734)

Gnoosic http://www.gnoosic.com offers a service where you input three of your favorite artists and it then refers you to a new artist whom you then state whether you like or dislike. Using your input and the input of others before you it will give you a bunch of new artists to check out...

stories like this make you miss iuma.com (1)

hudsonhawk (148194) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010739)

Thanks for reminding me that iuma.com got sold out. Before napster, mp3, and all that crap, Internet Underground Music Archive was the ultimate resource for finding independent music online.

But that was so long ago that, at that time, ubl.com was actually useful too.

Scott

suggestions (2)

dirvish (574948) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010740)

I find a lot of music on IUMA [iuma.com] and the Synthesis [synthesis.net] . Neither have an abundance of adverts. As for a system of reccomendation or news/discussion I can't be of much help. Maybe you should start something like that!

My site [3fingersalute.net] has an artist of the month section but we just started it a few months ago so there isn't much there yet.

Where I listen to music (1)

dbombarc (208030) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010741)

There are quite a few online "labels" that just release in mp3 format. Often times, the anarchist side of corporate folk.

I recommend:

Subverseco [subverseco.com]
Illmatic Vibes [illmatikvibes.com]
and strangely enough, my own... :> Deathbomb Arc [deathbombarc.com]

Have fun, all thsoe sites have links galore to more music.

The Semiotics of modern 'Popular' music (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5010747)

As /. readers familiar with the writings of Ronald Barthes will know, that whenever we read a book, or watch a movie, or listen to some music we are engaging in a discourse. Sometimes this process is obvious, for example when watching a didactic or political TV program.

At other times it is more insidious such as the subtle brainwashing and psychological manipulation of 'calming' elevator music. As we consume the media, we interpret it and make our own mark upon it, in much the same way as an animal marks its territory by means of urination.

In this post, I will be discussing the signifiers and iconography of 'Spinning Around' by the diminutive pop diva Kylie Minouge, and explaining how a seemingly innocuous piece of music can carry a deeper meaning which is perhaps far less paletable than the happy-go-lucky music would suggest. One which is quite frankly sickening and disgusting.

Kylie Minogue.

Although few unsophistcated American music fans have heard of her, Australia's most famous export to date has been in the limelight now for over ten years. Her story is one of continual re-invention, of highs and lows. From fresh-faced tomboy in a highly respected tv drama, to bubblegum pop princess, to raunchy sex-symbol to gay icon, Kylie changes her image more often that some people change their underwear, and it seems that her fans simply cannot get enough of her

The thing about Kylie is that her seemingly innocent 'bad-but-not-too-bad girl' image appears to cover a covert agenda.

That agenda is the liberalist one of 'normalizing' heterosexual anal sex. I won't go into the details of why the liberals want to promote buggery. Their fixation with making sodomy acceptable and their reasons for doing so are well documented elsewhere. I will simply provide some uncontrovertable semiotic evidence to show that Kylie is (either wittingly or unwittingly) contributing to this highly controversial and questionable cause.

Spinning Around - Kylie Minogue

I'm spinning around
Move outta my way
I know you're feeling me
'Cos you like it like this


The signs here are very clear. "Spinning around" refers to the act of turning over onto all fours, the conventional position for reciving an act of anal stimulation. "Move out of my way" - She does not care about disapproval from the community at large in effect this is a big 'mind your own business' comment. "you like it like this" - like what exactly ? Kylie does not spell it out explicitly, but the semiotic intent is clear. "like this" referrs to 'anal' rather than vaginal. So we can see from the chorus, this song is heavily promoting an "analist" agenda.

I'm breaking it down
I'm not the same
I know you're feeling me
'Cos you like it like this


"breaking it down" - this refers to the breaking of taboos. In this case the taboo of anal sex. Kylie is breaking down the taboo in order to promote an analist outlook on life. "I'm not the same" - well obviously she is 'not the same' as the large percentage of the population who find the act of anal sex perverse, disgusting and dangerously depraved. This line almost revels in the perversion, its almost as if Kylie is saying a big 'fuck you' to the vast majority of normal people who would find this behaviour extremely distasteful.

Traded in some sorrow
For some joy that I borrowed
From back in the day
Threw away my old clothes
Got myself a better wardrobe
I got something to say
I'm through with the past
Ain't no point in looking back
The future will be
And did I forget to mention
That I found a new direction
And it leads back to me, yeah


Some more signs here "joy that I borrowed". Kylie has borrowed her sexual technique from the gay community amongst whom she enjoys a large following . "found a new direction" - well that is another way of saying that conventional heterosexual vaginal intercourse is no longer enough, the new direction Kylie appears to have found is an anal one.

I'm spinning around
Move outta my way
I know you're feeling me
'Cos you like it like this
I'm breaking it down
I'm not the same
I know you're feeling me
'Cos you like it like this

The mistakes I've made
Have given me the strength
To really believe
That no matter how I take it
There's no way I'm gonna fake it
'Cos it's gotta be real
I've got nothing left to hide
No reason left to fight
'Cos the truth's given me
A new freedom inside
Getting rid of my desire
Do you like what you see


"no matter how I take it" - anally or vaginally. "no way I'm gonna fake it" - The symbolism here is not even very well hidden. The song describes how the singer is not going to fake an orgasm, presumably this means that if she cannot obtain satisfaction from conventional clitoral stimulation, then she will have to resort to unnatural anal activities in order to reach a climax. A clear validation of the liberal-analist agenda.

"Do you like what you see" - well clearly we do. Kylie's attraction is one of her key selling points. Indeed many people would probably not have heard of Kylie were it not for her provocative videos in which she prances around waving her backside in our faces as if to say "look, here is my back door, please make tender passionate love to me through it".

I won't bother with the rest of the song, its all pretty much the same, with thinly veiled references to sodomy all over the place, set to a pulsating and thumping disco beat.

The problem seems to be endemic in pop music. We have songs encouraging promiscuity, masturbation, fornication and all perversions known to man played continuously on radio and TV. Anything goes it would seem, except normal heterosexual intercourse between two married partners in the missionary position.

Our children are being indoctrinated with the liberal-analist mindset as part of the growing battle to undermine family values, indeed research has shown that by the time a child is 16 he/she will have heard over 70000 veiled references to the act of anal copulation, from pop music alone.

It is not clear what can be done about this, if anything. The very nature of the sneaky techniques of the liberals is that by the time we normal people realise what the true meaning of the song is, our children are running around happily singing about adult topics which are best saved for the marital bed.

This song by Kylie is but one example of this creeping phenomenon. I am sure that any of you out there who regularly listen to 'Top40' radio stations could give hundreds of others.

Kylie is a very talented singer and songwriter as witnessed by her best album yet, recorded with the help of James Dean Bradfield of the Manic Street Preachers. However if she continues to promote anal sex in this subversive and secretive way, she will soon be added to my ever-growing list of 'artists to be avoided' along with the likes of the thong-twanging Sisqo the extra-marital-affair promoting Shaggy and the simply annoying beyond belief So Solid Crew.

Please God... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5010752)

'habbits' Teach the slashdotters to spell. Famine, war, boy bands... all of them are bearable... I beg you Lord!

KEXP where the music matters (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5010753)

KEXP in Seattle has a great webcast, in various formats including MP3 and a great website with playlists that update constantly as the songs play plus you can get them emailed to you. www.kexp.org [kexp.org]

www.allmusic.com (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5010755)

www.allmusic.com

duh

My favorite sites... (1)

madgeorge (632496) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010758)

I've got a 25 GB MP3 collection, all ripped from my own CDs. Still, even with that much music, I get bored. I've fallen in love with Live365 [live365.com] . Has a downloadable Windows streaming client, or works seamlessly with any number of MP3 players (including XMMS). For research, AMG [allmusic.com] is top freaking notch. I've got a loooong wish list from that site. No one has every detail about every artist who ever was, but these guys have information on some of the most obscure artists I could think of and things about your favorite artists that you may not have known.

AllMusic.com (1)

Jester@TheHouse (79585) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010762)

Allmusic.com [allmusic.com]

They have many reviews, essays and maps of how a style of music came to be. I enjoy being able to look up a song and hunt down what album it was on. They seem to be a one stop answer for most question on music.

They also have sister sites that are for Games [allgame.com] and Movies. [allmovie.com]

Plus I like to support a company in home state.

Re: (2)

rmohr02 (208447) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010763)

Are there weblogs that allow users to discuss music much like Slashdot discusses "news"?
You can make your own using this [slashcode.com] .

CD Baby (1)

elykyllek (543092) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010775)

CD Baby [cdbaby.com] is a site that sells independent music. They have a "Sounds Like" search that you can put a famous artist into and it will come up with artists that you might like.

Michael Roberts of Lindows is XBOX hack donor (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5010776)

Michael Roberts of Lindows is XBOX hack donor

Audio Galaxy (5, Informative)

Patrick13 (223909) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010781)

Actually, before AudioGalaxy [audiogalaxy.com] got sued into ashes [slashdot.org] , they had a great feature in their search mechanism that when you searched for an artist or title, it would show what other people who searched for that title had also search for.

I really like the drum n bass duo Lamb [amazon.com] and thanks to this feature at audio galaxy I was introduced to the Sneaker Pimps [amazon.com] and Hooverphonic [amazon.com] .

Err, I mean I rushed right out to my local national chain music store and purchased the CDs.

You kind of get this when you browse through Amazon.com's [amazon.com] "other people purchased" links.

Simply do a search... (1)

DaytonCIM (100144) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010785)

on Google for web radio stations and college radio stations. If you want new music: that's where it's at.

A crap load of new music [sonoma.edu] everyday...

GNUtella is helpful. (1)

Sensei_knight (177557) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010786)

I used to watch the incoming requests on the GNUtella network(Limewire), when I saw what looked what sounded like a new artest I would do a search to see what they have to offer. Now I use Shareaza that only has a packet dump feature thats too hard on the eyes th catch somthing promising.(hint hint) It would also be cool if it compiled satistics on the incoming requests and hits.

Suggesting music based on listening habits (2, Informative)

bongobongo (608275) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010787)

http://www.besonic.com/ [besonic.com] does this

besonic is a site mostly populated by obscure artists, a heap of them electronic music makers, too. if you sign up for a listening account with them, they'll email you once a week (or something?) with tracks and artists they think you'll like based on how many tracks in different genres you've listened to. it's not a very intelligent system, but it kind of fits what is being asked about.

of course, sites like besonic (and the original big one, mp3.com) are dying off. the most promising new one is electronicscene.com [electronicscene.com] . any electronic musician can sign up to have their tracks on electronicscene. there are ample links between genre pages and artist pages so that if you find one artist or genre you like, you can easily find another similar one... or lists of the artists and genres that influenced them. provided you like electronic music, it's an excellent place for finding new stuff.

www.allmusic.com (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5010790)

just check it out, i need not say more.

www.allmusic.com

allmusic (1)

mojogojo (577421) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010791)

There used to be a site that let you enter a list of groups you like, and it listed more spiraling out (inner being most like your sound) - and in one direction was music more in the mainstream but with similar sound, and the other direction spiraled out list of bands not so well known.

I think it was called Firefly. unfortunatly, the site is no longer.

However, here is a very comprehensive site that has a similar feature (but only for one particular band at a time):

http://www.allmusic.com/ [allmusic.com]

Find a band, then check the "Similar/Related" tab.

The Wire - it's a magazine (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5010792)

their website is http://www.thewire.co.uk/

if Slashdot were a music site ... (1)

Bobtree (105901) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010798)

it might be somewhat like this one:
www.staticbeats.com

Overclocked Remix (0)

liquidflare (463694) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010799)

If you want to hear some unique sounds, check out Overclocked Remix [overclocked.org] . This is a growing community of enthusiasts who remix original game soundtracks, sometimes creating stuff far better then the original. They have many varieties of remixes that would fall under the categories of techno, industrial, and jazz. Tons of talent there, definately worth checking out.

use an expert system, of course (5, Interesting)

StandardDeviant (122674) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010803)

like this [gnoosic.com] . it's a really cool engine somebody built that takes information on what you like and suggests other bands. definitely click the "related bands" link under the suggested band it pops out. i realize that this is probably dooming somebody's server to a firey death, but maybe go back in a week or so. ;-) take what it suggests and pop over to shoutcast [shoutcast.com] to look for stations streaming those (sorts of) bands. if you like what you hear, go to your local independent CD shop and buy it, making sure to tell them "yeah, I heard this music online from an mp3 station and now i want to buy it from you". most of the record store owners I know think that mp3s are satan incarnate, helping them see the benefits of fluid, low/no-barrier music preview and discovery would be a good thing long term...

When it came to discovering new music... (2)

foqn1bo (519064) | more than 11 years ago | (#5010807)


Audiogalaxy couldn't be touched. Not at all. Back before the restructuring I would download music that I was curious about, deciding whether or not it was worth purchase. I deleted the stuff I didn't like, and bought a few CDs. As I'm not a mass consumer of recorded music, this is saying a lot. And a handful of those CDs I would have never heard about if not for the "If you like Sunny Day Real Estate* try this other band" feature. (*Insert name of band you actually like here) At least one of the bands had legitimate hosting on AG with a few legal music samples, but I downloaded other tracks in the normal manner in order to get a better feel for the quality of the album I was looking to buy. As far as I know AG still has their categories, suggestions and forums, but the lack of free access to gablilitizillions of mp3s puts a bit of a damper on this method. Of course, I also rejected a few CDs by this technique, in finding that there were not very many good tracks other than one I'd heard before. This is the only purpose I used AG for that would probably piss off the RIAA, and in that case it's definitely worth thinking about. I doubt they're too keen on consumers getting to rate their merchandise before purchase.

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