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Still Hope for Farscape

CmdrTaco posted more than 11 years ago | from the but-not-a-lot-of-it dept.

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An anonymous reader wrote in to say that the "Save Farscape" campaign thinks there is still hope. If the next 11 episodes (starting Friday, January 10 on the SciFi Channel) pull the right numbers ). According to this interview with David Kemper:"If we were to do 2s, straight across the boards for these eleven eps, I would be expecting to have phone conversations with people immediately..." Of course that is pretty unlikely- but my household won't miss an episode. To bad the cats don't count in the nielsons ;)

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Fist Sport! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5028874)

Fuck Sci-Fi. Let's get our money together and finance Farscape ourselves!

Re:Fist Sport! (1)

GuardianBob420 (309353) | more than 11 years ago | (#5028962)

Damn strait!!! My cats like Farscape as much as the Cmdr's, how about an all-cat stand-in cast... we'll get one of them hairless ones to play Scorpy...

Re:Fist Sport! (-1)

cyborg_monkey (150790) | more than 11 years ago | (#5029140)

Get a fucking life, you ignorant fuck. Go outside, breath some fresh air.

Here is another helpful hint:

Farscape is just a tv show. It does not matter if it never airs again.

Fucking clueless shitbag.

Geeks Unite! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5028875)

There is still hope! Pasty white geeks can give a sigh of relief.

Why save it? (1, Insightful)

DevilM (191311) | more than 11 years ago | (#5028881)

"kill your television" and live life to its fullest

Re:Why save it? (5, Insightful)

clutch110 (528473) | more than 11 years ago | (#5028898)

So on the same token, should we stop going to plays or operas and live life to the fullest?

Isn't this the same thing, one person or group of people showing their creative vision to the world?

I agree, most of television is crap, but to disregard it on the whole is a mistake.

Re:Why save it? (4, Insightful)

DevilM (191311) | more than 11 years ago | (#5028952)

If you treat TV in a similar vain as say a play then I can see your point. However, most people just plop down in front of the tube and waste their life away.

Make TV a special event to be enjoyed socially with friends and strangers a like and then you'll have something. Until then, even the most creative content from TV can be better found somewhere else.

Re:Why save it? (1)

clutch110 (528473) | more than 11 years ago | (#5028987)

To this I will agree. I almost never watch television alone. There are the shows that I enjoy that my wife and family do not, but hardly ever do we waste away in front of it.

The kids would much rather play or read a book than watch something that is of no value to them.

Re:Why save it? (0, Flamebait)

DAldredge (2353) | more than 11 years ago | (#5028955)

It's not the same thing.

The people puting on the plays and operas have talent.

Re:Why save it? (1)

Seek_1 (639070) | more than 11 years ago | (#5028925)

Why save it?

Because Farscape just happens to be THE BEST SCI-FI show ever created! If you've watched it for longer than two episodes in a row, you'd probably realize this and come to the same conclusion.

SAVE FARSCAPE!

Re:Why save it? (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5028940)

I think the US Constitution is a bit more important than fucking Farscape. How about everybody fights the Patriot Act instead?

Re:Why save it? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5029025)

I think the US Constitution is a bit more important than fucking Farscape.

The US Constitution is alive and well, and doing just fine, thank you very much. If it needs your help, believe me, you'll know it.

Re:Why save it? (1, Flamebait)

DAldredge (2353) | more than 11 years ago | (#5028977)

Why does Farscape do the same thing to viewers that the 'Whacketts' show did to viewers in Max Headroom?

Re:Why save it? (5, Insightful)

Anonvmous Coward (589068) | more than 11 years ago | (#5029001)

"Because Farscape just happens to be THE BEST SCI-FI show ever created!"

No, Doctor Who was the best Scifi show ever created.

Efforts to get that show played on Scifi-Channel would be better rewarded. 25+ years of eps without the derivitive dribble.

Label me a troll if you like, but there's a reason that Farscape's being canned. There's an even better reason why DrW went on for so long.

Re:Why save it? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5029047)

Actually I agree with you that Dr. Who is one of the best sci-fi shows ever created, but farscape is right up there.

One of the reasons that Dr. Who went on so long is because it was done on PUBLIC tv (BBC). It continues to air in America on PBS.

Viacom continues to demonstrate a great ability to swallow up once great cabel channels and gut them.

What is the point of having 500 channels if they all target mainstream crap.

Re:Why save it? (3, Interesting)

entrylevel (559061) | more than 11 years ago | (#5029148)

I wouldn't go so far as to say BEST.SCIFI.SHOW.EVER, although how people can compare it to SG-1 is beyond me. "Powering up 100 percent! Captain. sir. Ti'lk, are you OK?" WTF?! Apparently it translates badly from the original whatever-the-hell-language it was originally dubbed in. My loss I guess. (I also don't care much for Anime.)

I much prefer dialog like "You have knowledge of time and the ability unravel events. I should kill you just for that." Does anyone remember that episode? In one scene Crichton gets thrown back to the first day he set foot on Moya, everyone except him is acting exactly the same, with the same camera footage and everything, but he reacts to everything differently. Just when you've had enough of the scene, he turns around, points to the back of his neck, mutters "tongue.", and Dargo wallops him in the back of his neck with his tongue. Then it cuts back to him face down on the island in the void with the Ancient. I thought that was some creative shit. Anyway...

If Farscape goes off the air I think it will be a loss. I'm no Farscape zealot (I'm lots of things, not just Farscape!), but if the SciFi channel cancels it only to replace it with Braveheart (I like the movie and all, but how is it SciFi?) and the X-Files (hello, I saw every good episode 6 times!), they will have just confused away another dedicated viewer. I won't boycott SciFi just for cancelling a cool (IMHO) show, but I can't watch channels whose programming choices give me a headache just trying to comprehend them.

Anyway, I'll watch all the new episodes when they air, or I'll tape them if I'm out. I truly hope anyone who enjoys the show even a little will do the same.

(On a side note: does anyone think Neilsen boxes actually exist (anymore)? Wouldn't it be easier to just put some kind of chip in the TV. I dunno, maybe call it a "V-Chip"?)

Re:Why save it? (0, Troll)

TheSimkin (639033) | more than 11 years ago | (#5028934)

No cartoons? They killed The Lexx. but cartoons still have some value!

Re:Why save it? (1)

TheTick (27208) | more than 11 years ago | (#5028960)

Should we avoid cinema too?

How about theater?

Should we throw away our books?

I'm curious: how much culture do we have to shed before we can "live life to the fullest"?

Re:Why save it? (2)

DevilM (191311) | more than 11 years ago | (#5028976)

If you get your culture from TV then I can't really help you.

Re:Why save it? (2)

Twirlip of the Mists (615030) | more than 11 years ago | (#5029042)

Snob. Everything around you comprises your culture. The Bible, Shakespeare, and Milton are culture, but so are "I Love Lucy," Titanic, and Nirvana.

Re:Why save it? (2)

Evil Adrian (253301) | more than 11 years ago | (#5029155)

It's not snobbish; just because something is a part of our culture doesn't make it good for the culture. Drugs would be a good example. So would the "everybody for themselves" mentality. Among other things.

Re:Why save it? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5029044)

No, just TV would be fine, since it's such a watered-down, brain-numb MASS MEDIA. And popular magazines too, while you're at it. Everything else is okay..

Re:Why save it? (1)

PhoenixFlare (319467) | more than 11 years ago | (#5029093)

Or maybe you could live life to its fullest, and stop whining about people wasting time on television?

At least write a letter to your local newspaper or something, instead of posting on Slashdot, of all places...

This might suprise you, but fanatically loving one show does not a couch potato make. A huge amount of people watch TV in moderation, something you should practice rather than saying "kill your television" over one cause/show.

Re:Why save it? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5029143)

Maybe you should try whining on Slashdot for yourself; it doesn't get any better than this!

Re:Why save it? (1)

toopc (32927) | more than 11 years ago | (#5029146)

"kill your television" and live life to its fullest

Spend your time posting worthless comments on discussions boards instead! Now that's living life to its fullest!!

Re:Why save it? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5029182)

Maybe if the editors stopped watching so much TV they would learn when to use "too" instead of "to."

Claudia black is hot (1)

Nicholas_D (548536) | more than 11 years ago | (#5028892)

she may be 30 something..but she sure is cute!

Re:Claudia black is hot (2)

Ribo99 (71160) | more than 11 years ago | (#5028979)

She's only 29 [imdb.com] . At least according to IMDB.

I agree with your appraisal of her cuteness though ;) Plus she's a damn fine actress. If you have a chance you should check out the Farscape episode The Way We Weren't, one of my faves. She's spectactular in it.

Re:Claudia black is hot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5029159)

Check out recent issue of Sci Fi magazine (Feb 03, I think); real hot full page pic of Claudia on page 61. Nice stomach-revealing, midriff outfit. Yum.

ZIP? (2)

Roadmaster (96317) | more than 11 years ago | (#5028894)

is the kemper interview long enough that they just *HAD* to put it in a zip file? or is it yet another ploy to counter the slashdot effect?

Re:ZIP? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5028920)

The interview is supposedly over an hour in length, some sort of compression is prudent...

Re:ZIP? (1)

jx100 (453615) | more than 11 years ago | (#5029037)

then it should've been gzip, so at least some of us could read it directly in our browsers.

Jesus Fucking CHRIST, Taco! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5028899)

It's Nielsens [nielsenmedia.com] you moron.

Enlarge your anus (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5028900)

Enlarge your anus the natural way [goatse.cx] .

Re:Enlarge your anus (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5028923)

I'll take the unnatural way [klerck.org] if it's all the same with you!

Nielsen (5, Informative)

CySurflex (564206) | more than 11 years ago | (#5028904)

Nielsen ratings only apply to nielsen households which is a small percentage of the american public. If your TiVo or your cable set-top box was allowed to send back viewing habits info to the cable provider, the media companies would have much better numbers to go by.

I never understood why people always get so riled up by that prospect.

Re:Nielsen (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5028949)

Nielson may be too sparse - but Tivo would be too focused on a certain demographic (elitist). Until all TV exists on a digital 2-way interface will TV be planned exclusively for the masses.

To our chagrin, I imagine.

Re:Nielsen (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5028975)

and if I didn't put the phone on mute before I walked off to take a piss, the telemarketer on the other end would KNOW that I don't give a rats ass about saving money on my long distance calls.

Re:Nielsen (5, Insightful)

SirWhoopass (108232) | more than 11 years ago | (#5028992)

I don't know how keen I am on having every ad agency in the country know my viewing habits, but you are right. The Nielsen rating only apply to a very small number of households. I would bet a lot of groups are underrepresented. How many single college kids living in apartments/dorms do you know with Nielsen boxes?

It would be interesting to see what happened if you could suddenly get viewing data from all those TiVos, digital cable boxes, and satellites out there. It might be like when album sales became directly tied to the sales register instead of clerk reporting. It was discovered that country music accounted for far more sales than was credited.

Re:Nielsen (3, Insightful)

msobkow (48369) | more than 11 years ago | (#5029027)

Personally I don't care what ad companies target a show -- I fast forward through the crap unless it catches my interest anyhow.

Here's a hint for the advertisers: make it amusing. I'll actually watch an amusing ad, even if I have no interest in the product. IBM, Blockbuster, and a few others seem to have grasped that; corps like GM, Chrysler, Ford, etc. are still under the misguided belief that their ads have anything to do with which vehicle I end up buying.

Re:Nielsen (3, Insightful)

JordoCrouse (178999) | more than 11 years ago | (#5029066)

I don't know how keen I am on having every ad agency in the country know my viewing habits, but you are right.

I don't know how much I care about that. In my opinion, if they are going to broadcast an ad anyway, they might as well use something that appeals me as well as something applicable to my life situation (hint: more beer commercials, less tampon commercials).

I have yet to hear a compelling argument why targeted advertising is so bad, but if anyone out there wants to give it a shot, I'm all ears...

Re:Nielsen (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5029003)

I never understood why people always get so riled up by that prospect.

because it's private information that they would rather not share with the world?

Check ad viewing (2)

Gorimek (61128) | more than 11 years ago | (#5029030)

In that case they could also check who zaps through the commercials on the Tivo, and just don't count them for the ratings.

If I ran a network or was a customer of one, I would definitely want that info.

Re:Nielsen (1)

Da w00t (1789) | more than 11 years ago | (#5029032)

Actually, the TiVos -- all of them (except those without service) send back to TiVo what you watch. And, if you know where to look you see a build tag "NEILSEN_LOGGING" in the release version file, much like Red Hat's /etc/redhat-release.

Re:Nielsen (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5029080)

That's quite an interesting statement, coming from someone who watched "Hot Topixxx 17" three times last week, each time watching intently and uninterrupted until the foot orgie scene, and then abruptly turning the show off even though 37 minutes remained.

Although we're still not 100% about your demographic on that one, you're definitely getting some extra-strength tissue ads later this week, with a few hand-lotion spots thrown in.

Re:Nielsen (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5029098)

If Television (and to a greater extent Radio) broadcasters knew that I violently protest thought pollution, they would also know that I do so by refusing to allow any station/channel to be tuned anywhere that commercials are playing.

That's right, I go flipping the moment a commercial airs. Why? Because they piss me off. Radio pisses me off because they intentionally air the most commercials when you're most likely listening, as if the music they play wasn't bad enough. Television pisses me off because more likely than not you're already paying for the video feed with an overpriced cable or satalite bill, yet they feel the need to tack on extra means of income by trying to force you to watch commercials that most likely you don't give a shit about.

If you want me to watch commercials, I better be getting that signal for free. I'm not, so fuck your god damned commercials. As for the Radio, I realize that's what keeps them on the air, but fuck those, too. If only a few commercials were all I had to worry about, then maybe I would leave my favorite station (ugh) tuned. Instead, you hear a song then 10 minutes of bullshit. Rather, they want me to, but I don't.

Fight Thought Pollution. Violently Refuse To Watch and Listen.

Re:Nielsen (1)

amuro98 (461673) | more than 11 years ago | (#5029138)

Your Tivo by default will tell Tivo the company what it is recording. Tivo the company uses this to compile aggregated data of what their subscribers are recording. This means they can say how many subscribers recorded Friends last night, but not which ones.

You can request that Tivo the company not collect this data from you.

Even so, I suspect the viewing habits of most folks here would just cause most marketting companies to throw out our data as "abberations" or "noise."

Still Hope For BeOS (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5028906)

An anonymous reader wrote in to say that the "Save BeOS [beunited.org] " campaign thinks there is still hope. If the next 11 quarters (starting Friday, January 10 on the Palm Channel) pull the right numbers). According to this interview with David Kemper:"If we were to use NetPositive, straight across the Palm site, for these eleven quarters, I would be expecting to have phone conversations with people immediately..." Of course that is pretty unlikely- but my household won't miss a chance to resurrect BeOS. To bad the cats can't point and click ;)

Re:Still Hope For BeOS (2)

joe_bruin (266648) | more than 11 years ago | (#5029008)

didn't you hear, beos is already saved [openbeos.org] . no money needed, but feel free to contribute code. in about a year, they'll be where Be was 3 years ago (which was pretty good, for 3 years ago). finally, a descent gui for my p2-266! now if they only had nfs. and a descent web browser. god knows they have enough irc clients.

yes, i'm offtopic. but i'd rather save beos than waste my time watching tv (and trying to save a tv show so i can waste more time watching tv).

Uh huh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5028907)

"We're gonna cancel this show if you don't watch"

"Seriously, we're gonna cancel this show if you don't watch"

"Okay, this is the last chance. We're gonna cancel if you don't watch"

"Okay, for real this time. If you don't watch, we're gonna cancel!"

Does this strike anyone besides me as the plan all along? "Cancel" the show to hype it into the stratosphere, then hold it for hostage to make people watch... "or we'll shoot this dog!"

Re:Uh huh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5029078)

"Does this strike anyone besides me as the plan all along?"

Nope, I really don't think it does...

Nielsens (5, Funny)

szcx (81006) | more than 11 years ago | (#5028909)

Of course that is pretty unlikely- but my household won't miss an episode. To bad the cats don't count in the nielsons ;)
Unless you have a box, you count for about as much as your cats.

you count for about as much as your cats. (1)

kfg (145172) | more than 11 years ago | (#5029026)

Or maybe less, judging from commercial content.

KFG

Farscape at its heart was good.. (2)

Hott of the World (537284) | more than 11 years ago | (#5028911)

But for the life of me I couldnt get past all the freakiness.

My 2 cents.

Re:Farscape at its heart was good.. (1)

steeleye_brad (638310) | more than 11 years ago | (#5028965)

"But for the life of me I couldnt get past all the freakiness"

Thank God, I'm not the only one. I could never quite make sense out of Farscape. I must say, though, it had terrific special effects. The puppets and makeup was fantastic. But the plot was too oddball for me.

Re:Farscape at its heart was good.. (2)

thelexx (237096) | more than 11 years ago | (#5028988)

It was the freakiness that kept me coming back! ;)

What about (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5028916)

What about things like human rights violations? A war over oil in Iraq? Why are people so fucking gung-ho about saving a TV show, yet wouldn't lift a finger to help another human being?

Re:What about (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5028936)

who cares? .. i don't, at any rate

Re:What about (1)

Seek_1 (639070) | more than 11 years ago | (#5028944)

People like Farscape because it's different. There's nothing out there that even remotely comes close to it in terms of storylines, and originality in costumes. Besides, everyone knows the war in Iraq isn't over oil. ;)

Re:What about (4, Funny)

DAldredge (2353) | more than 11 years ago | (#5028998)

No. People like Farscape because they did too many drugs while watching the Muppet Show.

Re:What about (5, Funny)

Twirlip of the Mists (615030) | more than 11 years ago | (#5028945)

Why are people so fucking gung-ho about saving a TV show, yet wouldn't lift a finger to help another human being?

Because nearly all other human beings suck.

Next question?

Re:What about (2)

Evil Adrian (253301) | more than 11 years ago | (#5028963)

Especially those that don't care about what happens to other human beings.

Re:What about (2)

Twirlip of the Mists (615030) | more than 11 years ago | (#5029000)

How many homeless shelters have you visited this week, Evil Adrian? How many meals have you given out?

Look, at least I'm honest about it. Generally speaking, I don't spend a whole lot of time worrying about other people. Neither do you. The difference is that I admit it freely, while you seem to be ashamed of the fact.

Re:What about (1)

wurp (51446) | more than 11 years ago | (#5029132)

Yes, which means you have almost no chance of ever improving, while Evil Adrian might be redeemable.

Re:What about (2)

willith (218835) | more than 11 years ago | (#5028951)

Hey, it's easier.

Re:What about (1)

AeternitasXIII (628171) | more than 11 years ago | (#5028994)

You have thus struck upon the one truth of the human condition: only your condition and those you rely upon matter, despite what the millions of hypocrites out there continue to believe. Hate to be the cynic, but someone had to say it. Entertainment matters because it makes these people happy; a war with a bunch of people who were better off as tribal nomads than as slaves to Western oil interests doesn't make anyone happy...well, maybe Bush and Cheney, but we can scarcely count them as humans, let alone people.

Well, aren't they helping. . . (1)

kfg (145172) | more than 11 years ago | (#5029046)

the cast and crew to continue to be able to feed their families? Helping starts with one child and one family at a time.

Support Farscape, for the children.

KFG

Re:What about (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5029100)

watching television helps fight terrorism.

if you turn off your box, you'll just be helping bin laden and his cronies.

first post!11 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5028926)

this is a post ,m and best of all it is first1

nielsens: /. resilient (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5028929)

it's a crying shame that the nielsen ratings attempt to track the viewing habits of the general population.

Can you imagine how popular farscape (not to mention baywatch) would be if the nielsens v2.0 was implemented using an (anonymous) web poll?

tits and lasers 24x7. thats what I want. and I know I'm not alone.

Interesting show on cable (Trio) (4, Interesting)

Microsift (223381) | more than 11 years ago | (#5028931)

"Brilliant but Cancelled" described fan efforts to save cancelled shows, noting it is nearly impossible, once the final decision is made. They did cite one example of a show that was cancelled and brought back because of fan support, "Cagney and Lacy." The show was out of production and the actors and actresses had been released from their contracts, but they managed to get everyone back.

If Farscape is officially canceled, there's probably not much hope. One notable difference is that the shows featured on "Brilliant..." were all on one of the major networks, so Sci-Fi may play it differently.

Dont rely on viewer count machines (4, Insightful)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 11 years ago | (#5028966)

Everyone still call/write si-fi after each episode and ask for more...

Be sure to mention content in each weeks show so they KNOW you are really watching..

We have a chance here, lets not blow it.

Re:Dont rely on viewer count machines (3, Informative)

jmoriarty (179788) | more than 11 years ago | (#5029110)

We have a chance here, lets not blow it.

I share your pain, but we have no chance. In geek-speak, it's the Kobayashi Maru, we ain't Kirk.

The Trio channel ran an interesting series of "Brilliant But Cancelled" shows in December. (Including my much lamented favorite, Profit) They also ran a documentary on cancelled TV shows, and talked about Fan campaigns to save shows. The bottom line, straight from the horse's mouth, is that they just won't work. Period. Every case except the original (ST:TOS) where a show has risen from the grave was due to some other force at work. Even the show's producers said "Thanks, but save your energy."

Ratings = $. Letters = recycling.

and |======D~~~~~ to you too! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5028968)

Accept it (3, Insightful)

core plexus (599119) | more than 11 years ago | (#5028970)

I know some peole will get their knickers in a twist over this, but here's The Ugly Truth: Everything Dies. Just like the post about the science programme on BBC going off the air after more than 30 years, it has to end sometime. Best advice: Go out with a bang, don't wither and whimper. One more thing: less TV, more life.

Man Gets 70mpg in Homemade Car-Made from a Mainframe Computer [xnewswire.com]

Re:Accept it (2, Insightful)

grinwell (138078) | more than 11 years ago | (#5029108)

Best advice: Go out with a bang, don't wither and whimper. One more thing: less TV, more life.

Ah, but what if instead of going out with a bang, it goes out with a never-resolved cliffhanger??? That's what Farscape fans despair of.

And one more thing: less good TV, more CRAPPY TV

Re:Accept it (3, Informative)

gwernol (167574) | more than 11 years ago | (#5029179)

Everything Dies... Best advice: Go out with a bang, don't wither and whimper. One more thing: less TV, more life.

Agreed, except that Farscape was written to be a five season show. One of the things that makes Farscape so exceptional is that it has a huge story arc running over all five seasons. Killing the show after the end of season four is particularly brutal because the storyline will never be resolved. They only had one season to go.

Amazing (5, Funny)

Twirlip of the Mists (615030) | more than 11 years ago | (#5028980)

So they're hoping and praying for Farscape to pull in a 2 rating? Astounding. Firefly consistently drew around a 2.4, and yet Fux dropped it faster than... a... um... fast dropping thing.

Sorry. I'm having a figurative language problem today. I can do personification and synecdoche, but I can't pull off metaphor or simile. It's like....

Re:Amazing (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5029038)

This is due to the differences between broadcast and network television. While Fox is a broadcast channel that essentially every television in the US can get, the Sci-Fi Channel is only available to those who have cable, and in some cases not available with the basic package.

This means that there a fewer potential viewers for a show that is on cable instead of broadcast television, and expectations for ratings are different. If Farscape was on Fox it is extremely likely that it could get a 2.4 or higher rating.

Re:Amazing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5029048)

Fox thinks it's a real network, and holds the bar a little bit higher than an offbeat cable network like SciFi. The WB would've killed for Firefly's ratings, but Fox needs a bigger pull, like Celebrity Bachelorette Boxing. (Is it just me, or are these reality show titles sounding more and more like keyword metatags from a porn site?)

Farscape will not be renewed and here's why (5, Informative)

loggia (309962) | more than 11 years ago | (#5028981)

USA Networks (which owns channels like Sci-Fi and USA) is following the current trend of "own your own shows and make more money."

USA Networks does not own Farscape.

USA would rather pump out garbage like Tremors: The Series, The Dream Team with Anna and Michael and other crap... because they own it and would reap the windfall if the shows become syndicated later on.

Now I did not say this plan makes sense. It doesn't. Disney has tried this with ABC and fallen to the bottom of the ratings heap. Far to the bottom. So much so that they are losing a tremendous amount of money on ABC. How is this better than working with a variety of production companies to create hits and making money the old way? It isn't.

But that is the current wisdom.

Also, USA Networks thinks showing the same programs on USA and Sci-Fi is a good idea and so is showing cheap black-and-white shows that get low ratings.

This is "smart."

Re:Farscape will not be renewed and here's why (2)

geekoid (135745) | more than 11 years ago | (#5029087)

Actually, they cut it so they could run Takken.

Nielsons ratings (2, Interesting)

Ragetech (97458) | more than 11 years ago | (#5029009)

I'm so pissed... I got called to record my viewing habits for a week for the Nielson ratings, but my week I'm supposed to "diary" what I watch is from last Thursday until this coming Thursday. I was kind of hoping to be able to record the new Farscape episode -- at least I got to put a blip on for last Friday's repeats, but...

Farscape is the only show I've watched, in the past five years, that I've followed religiously. It's hard to explain it to anyone how much you can get into it, but it was sooo well done; it's cancellation by SciFi really made me loose interest in T.V. -- besides The Simpsons, what shows are out there that are long lasting?

My girlfriend's Japanese, and she was telling me of this soap she used to watch that her father watches, that was on for literally 20 years. Unfortunatly, the tv execs don't invest in shows that much here. They want quick, easy cash... and eventually it's going to hurt them.

Ok, I'm rabling... go Farscape!

The Guiding Light premeired, on radio. . . (2)

kfg (145172) | more than 11 years ago | (#5029116)

in 1937. It's still going strong on television.

Maybe you just need to take up watching soaps?

KFG

Re:Nielsons ratings (1)

DeepRedux (601768) | more than 11 years ago | (#5029158)

Twenty years is nothing for a soap opera. The US soap opera Days of Our Lives has been on since November 8, 1965 [soapcity.com] .

Slashdot the SciFi Channel (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5029012)

If the SciFi Channel [scifi.com] is planning to nix Farscape, we can at least demonstrate some interest by browsing their site. :)

Did anyone catch their "original movie" Dragon Fighter last weekend? What a cookie-cutter of a plot, predictable and silly. I swear these folks wouldn't know science fiction if Harlan Ellison tattooed it across their butts. Farscape may not have been high art (what on the tube is?), but they did manage to pull off an original episode once in a while.

A Nielsen Point... (4, Informative)

geddes (533463) | more than 11 years ago | (#5029019)

A Nielsen point is the percentage of televisions in the US that tuned into the show. So a 2 would mean that 2% of the households with televisions in the united states (or roughly 2 million televisions) had tuned into the show. (More information at the Nielsen FAQ [nielsenmedia.com] .

For reference, the most popular TV show last week was CSI, followed by Monday Night football. CSI got 13 points, Monday Night Football 11 (data here [yahoo.com] ). So though a 2 isn't blockbuster (the lowest scoring show in the top twenty got a 6), it is still impressive. I don't know if farscape can do it.

Priorities first. (5, Insightful)

Anonvmous Coward (589068) | more than 11 years ago | (#5029022)

Futurama.

Re:Priorities first. (5, Funny)

NanoGator (522640) | more than 11 years ago | (#5029107)

"Priorities first."
"Futurama."

My kingdom for a mod point.

Suicide by Cable Provider? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5029028)

I *tried* to get the Sci-Fi channel on my local cable several years ago. I was told I had to buy it as an part of an expensive package of five "premium" channels, of which SFC was the ONLY one I wanted. I declined to spend ten dollars/channel on four channels I didn't want, and, with nothing else on cable worth watching either, have retired to the wonderful world of DVDs.

If the Sci-Fi channel wants to get viewer numbers, first don't let the cable operators drive your customers away.

I have no Cable, were do I send the Tabasco? (1, Offtopic)

lugonn (555020) | more than 11 years ago | (#5029039)

I wish I could watch Farscape I really do. But the Gods have conspired to take away my illegal cable connection.

The John and Erin(sp?) romance is kinda getting stale anyway. I just want to scream "Fuck already David and Mattie!"

See what happens when you cancel a good TV show on a impressionable 10 year old? They grow up and expect TOO much from their sci-fi.

I can't wait to see Jersey Girl. I hate Kevin Smith.

The sets have been destroyed. (4, Interesting)

fava (513118) | more than 11 years ago | (#5029053)

Not taken down and put into storage but destroyed with chainsaws and taken to the dump. Rebuilding all the sets would be very expensive, the ratings would have to be very good to justify it.

Yes, save Farscape! (2)

Scrameustache (459504) | more than 11 years ago | (#5029055)

I don't watch it (mostly because the theme song is about as sweet to my ears as the sound of a cat sliding down a blackboard), but save Farscape, and then save Firefly , wich I do like : )

pleaaaase!

Never mind Farscape, save Firefly! (2, Insightful)

jefp (90879) | more than 11 years ago | (#5029113)

Far superior program.

Re:Never mind Farscape, save Firefly! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5029135)

Firefly blows shit. It replaced the superior Dark Angel. Still pissed off about that one.

Re:Never mind Farscape, save Firefly! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5029169)

It's not an either-or proposition. I'd like to see both series succeed, if for no other reason than it'll show Hollyweird that there is interest and profit in these types of shows.

Unfortunately, there apparently isn't enough interest or profit, so instead we end up with "reality" TV. So if the programming is in a downward spiral, why exactly do I need HDTV? Hmm...

No hope (2, Informative)

grinwell (138078) | more than 11 years ago | (#5029154)

SCIFI has no intention of renewing Farscape. The 2.0 would not only exceed any of Farscape's ratings so far, but would be the highest of any SCIFI series (except the "Taken" miniseries).

Someone even Graphed the Ratings [farscapeweekly.com]

Farscape Category? (0, Flamebait)

evilviper (135110) | more than 11 years ago | (#5029161)

Hey, if Farscape is going to be getting mentioned every week, why not make it into a category so it can be ignored by those of us who think that Farscape jumped the shark by about the second season?

If you don't like hearing me complain (I've got karma to burn, do your worst), just think, if Farscape had a category that I could choose to ignore, I wouldn't be here....

The Ramen Noodle Conspiracy (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5029177)

Notice how as the economy has worsened, that not only has the supply of Ramen noodles increased, but the price has dropped? I saw them today for 10 cents a pack.

How can anyone make a profit on 10 cents a pack? The answer is, profit is not a factor... its a government funded welfare program. The federal government is subsidizing the production of Ramen noodles during this period of economic decline.

Farscape is lame. (-1, Flamebait)

R_V_Winkle (186128) | more than 11 years ago | (#5029188)

Just my opinion but this has to be one of the most retarded science fiction shows I have ever seen. I will be glad when they get rid of it and hope they come up with something more interesting and profitable for themselves.

How about a lord of the rings series :)
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