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Brain Surgery Robot Running Linux

michael posted more than 11 years ago | from the brain-fondling dept.

Technology 361

hherb writes "Singapore has developed a robotic brain surgeon. The interesting bit: based on a Linux platform. Well, what else? Who in his right mind would like to have his brain fondled by a MS product?"

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WooHoo (3, Funny)

luckybob83 (530490) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093829)

first reply, anyway though, imagine this. Your loved one undergoing brain surgery, half-way through the docter comes out and says, "Sorry, we had a BSOD (Blue Screen of Death)"

Re:WooHoo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5094012)

Nurse: Darn, Doctor Watson!
Watson: Yes?
Nurse: No! I mean, there, we've a Doctor Watson during the scalp drilling!
Watson: What do you mean? I'm not even drilling the bone! We're using this new Microsoft sponsored Windows program to take care of that!
Nurse: BSOD!
Watson (talking to another nurse): Remind me we shouldn't hire dotcom leftovers next time.

Artaxerxes

Re:WooHoo (2, Insightful)

TechnoVooDooDaddy (470187) | more than 11 years ago | (#5094030)

yeah, Blue Screen of Death would be really appropriately named then...

GPF (1, Funny)

missing000 (602285) | more than 11 years ago | (#5094080)

If they drop a sponge inside you and sew you up, is that a GPF (General Protection Fault)?

neither ms nor linux (3, Insightful)

guacamolefoo (577448) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093830)

I only want a human fondling my brain, thank you.

GF.

Re:neither ms nor linux (3, Insightful)

nervlord1 (529523) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093869)

How is a human more reliable than a computer? I'd trust a computer more. A computer doesn't have a bad day. A computer does not come to work drunk, a computer is either programmed bad, or has a hardware failure, and enough testing can severly reduce that

Re:neither ms nor linux (3, Interesting)

Soporific (595477) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093905)

The same reason computers don't fly commuter flights is the same reason they don't do heart surgery. Sure, they might assist some of it, but when something unexpected comes up, humans are able to come up with more creative ways to solve problems.

~S

Re:neither ms nor linux (3, Interesting)

dillon_rinker (17944) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093935)

But when the expected is occurring, a well-programmed robot is consistently better than a human. "Well-programmed" is the key. Of course, you still need an expert watching the machine because the machine can't tell whether what's happening is expected or unexpected.

Overall, I'd say this is one more example of better health care at higher prices - you pay for the brain surgeon AND the robot, but your surgery is more likely to be successful.

Re:neither ms nor linux (3, Interesting)

jlar (584848) | more than 11 years ago | (#5094056)

One hospital in Denmark is currently making knee operations using a programmed robot. The success rate for the "robot surgeon" were far above that of human surgeons.

In case anything goes wrong a human surgeon is standing by.

Re:neither ms nor linux (1)

13Echo (209846) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093953)

They don't fly communter flights? Maybe you didn't realize it, but commercial aircraft ARE computer controlled. Yes, there is a pilot, but he sits and monitors things.

Re:neither ms nor linux (2)

Soporific (595477) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093974)

Check your airplanes. Not all of them are fly-by-wire and none of them are taken off or landed by computer.

~S

Re:neither ms nor linux (1)

fudgefactor7 (581449) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093895)

I totally freaking agree. I want a human, with intuition and experience, working on my noodle, not some hacked code that might not like a video driver resolution, thereby causing me to get a lobotomy. This is a huge mistake.

Re:neither ms nor linux (5, Funny)

sk8king (573108) | more than 11 years ago | (#5094011)

Sorry, but I'm sure if I asked anyone I knew they would simply prefer no brain fondling at all.

Because we all know (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5093832)

Yeah, Linux never ever screws up, especially whilst doing brain surgery.

Why are there no posts? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5093833)

I thought slahsdot was for user comments on stories here is a blatant anti microsft story easy to get comments where are they all is anybody there

Aghr! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5093838)

Who in his right mind would like to have his brain fondled by a Linux product, come to that?

Re:Aghr! (2, Funny)

KDan (90353) | more than 11 years ago | (#5094073)

I'd much rather fondle linux software with my brain than the other way round, true enough.

Daniel

Re:Aghr! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5094078)

Personally, I would prefer an MS system providing brain surgery. There's several reasons for this:

First, if there is a problem, Iwould prefer that my doctor could call MS and get courteous, knowledgeable assistance. I don't need by doctor getting abused on Usenet for asking questions.

Second, MCSE's tend to shower more often than Linux admins, so the cleanliness factor is huge.

I FAIL IT!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5093844)

Yes, I sure do :(

When you just can't afford.. (0, Funny)

h00dLuM (630451) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093845)

a blue screen of death

Yeah, but if it doesn't go well... (5, Funny)

herrlich_98 (267669) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093847)

The Microsoft press release title will be...

"Using Linux causes death!"

I just want to know (1, Funny)

DrFrasierCrane (609981) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093848)

Is the software open-source? Then we could all write apps to drill into other various body parts. Sounds like fun!

Re:I just want to know (-1)

Anonymous Hack (637833) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093988)

Yeah, i mean, just imagine a beowulf cl... err never mind.

Fatality?

Money (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5093853)

If Linux messes up there's nobody to sue. At least Microsoft will give me more money to shut up.

Re:Money (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5094007)

If all you can still say is 'Gibber gibber blah' having all that money amount too much though :-)

Re:Money (1)

An Enormous Coward (641830) | more than 11 years ago | (#5094033)

At least Microsoft will give me more money to shut up.

But will they need to give you money to shut up if all you can do is sit there and dribble?

EULA (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5094048)

But before you are brought to the operating theatre, you'll probably have to click "I accept"! And the EULA will probably limit damages to 5 (five) dollar...

This actually has one good point . . . (2, Interesting)

Badgerman (19207) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093855)

Who wants his brain fondled by a MS product? Not me. Nor any other organ.

Though we joke about how lousy MS is (I know, I have to use it constantly), using an OS system for something this vital really should be the open option. Programmers need direct access to the code, and one wants to keep things updated as much as possible - which the OS community provides.

There's also been a breakthrough with an amazing robotic heart surgeon. (http://www.msnbc.com/news/837416.asp [msnbc.com] ), and I expect more in the future.

Which brings up the point about what software and OSes such important devices will run . . .

Right mind (1)

Bazman (4849) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093856)

Surely if you're in your right mind you dont _need_ brain surgery, be it Linux, Windows, or steam-powered!

Baz

MOD PARENT UP (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5093969)

C'mon can't believe you're all that dimwitted you can't see the humor there :-)

Simpsons Reference (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5093858)

Who in his right mind would like to have his brain fondled by a MS product?" I think MS could do it. It's just brain surgery, not rocket science.

Right mind (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5093870)

I think people undergoing brain surgery aren't in their right mind to begin with... :)

Dunno (2, Insightful)

smitty_one_each (243267) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093871)

If you were having your wetware fondled, you'd probably care more about the track record of the application than the OS.
Linux != crashproof, as my recent www.linuxfromscratch.org efforts demonstrated.
Great to see Linux proliferating, sad to see it used for a completely gratuitous bashing.

Gives a whole new meaning... (1)

nlinecomputers (602059) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093872)

...to the term Kernel Panic.

OOPS is not something I want a brain surgeon or his computer to utter.

Re:Gives a whole new meaning... (3, Funny)

szo (7842) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093949)

Well, still better than the Blue Screen of Braindeath...

Szo

Re:Gives a whole new meaning... (1)

Jugalator (259273) | more than 11 years ago | (#5094039)

Those kernel panics can even be dangerous for other people than to the guy getting the surgery... Just think about what would happen if the "surgeon" suddenly got a:

"Aarggh: attempting to free lock with active wait queue - shoot Andy"

Would his/her relatives shoot Andy? ;-)

Heh (5, Informative)

Lebannen (626462) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093877)

Anothe nicely misleading title... after reading the article, the robot is used to drill through the porous bone of the skull. This is no mean feat by itself, reducing a 6-hour drill to a 3-hour drill, but surgeons still have to feed the robot all information on blood vessels, nerves, and sensitive areas.

That being said, it's still pretty impressive. And I thought dentists were bad enough...

Imagine this... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5093883)

Who in his right mind would like to have his brain fondled by a MS product?

During surgery:

"Doctor, someones hacked into the robot!"

"Damn! Did anyone remember to install the latest 42 security updates to Windows?"

"Oops, sorry doctor..."

"Argh! They've taken over the robot! Qucik unplug it now..."

Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep!

"He's dead, Jim!"

don't get so snippy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5094001)

Doctor: "Why is it trying to upload a shitload of spam and warez to this guys brain?!"

Assistant: "Oops i must have forgot to patch sendmail, bind, openssh or wu-ftpd, oh well sucks to be him"

Slightly off-topic (4, Funny)

IWantMoreSpamPlease (571972) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093885)

I was considering Laser realignment on my eyes, but when I went to talk to the eye doc, I found out his machine was running windows (NT IIRC).

I left immediately.

dude! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5093967)

You should have stayed!

If it screwed up you would lose at most 1 eye.

But you could sue microsoft for LOTS and LOTS of CASH!

Shit even if you're not greedy you could just give all the money to the FSF or something. Shit who wouldn't give up an eye to transfer 40 million from microsoft bank account to the fsfs bank account. I sure would! (of course i keep a few mil for myself!)

Re:Slightly off-topic (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5093977)

you must be one lonely individual

Re:Slightly off-topic (1)

hatchet (528688) | more than 11 years ago | (#5094000)

There are more risky things you do in everyday life.. like driving a car or walking your dog. 60.000 americans die every year in car accidents. Are you sure you wouldn't rather stay home? But on the other hand... half of all accidents happen at home. You are supposed to take a risk. If eye surgery doesn't kill you, something else will. Eventually.

The answer (1)

Gyan (6853) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093887)

Who in his right mind would like to have his brain fondled by a MS product?

Err.. the depressed and suicidal.

rm -rf / ? (5, Funny)

EvilCabbage (589836) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093888)

$5 to the first surgeon to type that in.

Re:rm -rf / ? (0)

niker (593109) | more than 11 years ago | (#5094037)

I doubt the surgeon would be be operating a shell AND have root access :P

Hey, gang! Want some karma? (-1, Troll)

MondoMor (262881) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093889)

For more cookie-cutter responses (i.e. "Micro$oft sux! LOL!), please search for any recent M$ article, look for the highest-modded wisecracks from that article, copy and paste to a post in this thread!

Instant Karma!

Instant karma's gonna get you.
Gonna knock you right on your head
One day you will find you are starving
and eating all of the words you just said.

Oops. Mixed up Lennon and DiFranco there. Sorry.

sweet.. (2, Funny)

grub (11606) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093893)


"You're anurism operation was a complete success and while that was going on your surgeon discovered the RC5-72 key [distributed.net] !"

Re:sweet.. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5093982)

"You are aneurysm"?

Re:sweet.. (0)

grub (11606) | more than 11 years ago | (#5094095)


You are aneurysm"?
Bah, didn't check too closely. I'm a looser.

Right Mind (5, Funny)

afrazer (152398) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093894)

"Who in his right mind would like to have his brain fondled by a MS product"

People generally have brain surgery because their mind is malfunctioning.

Utility only (3, Informative)

BuR4N (512430) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093898)

"The programmers can then map the access path, program the robotic arm to hold the drilling tool and begin the surgery. The program is written on a Linux platform."

Looks like the "setup" program is written for some Linux distro , no actual surgery is done using a machine running Linux.

I would neither have Bill or Linus software poking around in my head, neither OS is deterministic or suited for an operation like that.

It is not Linux... (4, Insightful)

kitsook (516402) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093900)

... matters most. It is the software that do the drilling, cutting etc.

From the article:
The speed and precision hinge on the software program written by researchers at NTU's department of mechanical and production engineering.

no shit genius! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5093934)

Well obviously it says "It runs on a linux platform" which means it obviously runs on a linux kernel.

Gee you mean that latest -ac patch to the kernel tree includes the new brainsurgery-o-matic module?!

duh. of course the software isn't linux but the platform it runs on is linux based...

reading, it's fundamental and shit.

r00t hacking your brain (1)

arikb (106153) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093901)

Now you can crack the os and the skull over the Internet!

Why they're not using windows... (0, Troll)

Cyno01 (573917) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093902)

We're sorry ma'am, your husband died on the table, the windows update dioloug came up and the whole thing crashed, i was sure i had it set to remind me later in 3 days....

Maybe a MS user, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5093906)

anyways, they already have their brain washed everyday...

Just had a great idea... (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5093914)

Brain surgeon in a vending machine!

"Let's see... Coke, Diet Coke, Mountain Dew, or a Frontal Lobotomy. Hmmm... I got 50 for the coke, but I need another 10,000 quarters for the lobotomy."

Er... (2, Funny)

inerte (452992) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093916)

Who in his right mind would like to have his brain fondled by a MS product?

My PHB. It happened a long time ago...

Good idea - don't think so... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5093919)

Anybody who thinks that getting brain surgery from a computer driven robot is a good idea(be it powered by Linux or M$) is probably beyond what could be fixed by brain surgery :-)

In this case I would prefere a human...

Would Linus feel confident enough... (4, Interesting)

snabelmann (567292) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093927)

... to let this thing operate on him if he were ever diagnosed with a brain tumor?

Would any of you kernel hackers feel safe if your own code operated on your brain?

it runs linux (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5093928)

Considering that it runs linux, how about a beowulf cluster of robotic brain surgeons?

My favourite line from the story (1)

CanadaDave (544515) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093931)

"We want to avoid distortions of facial expression," he added.

Re:My favourite line from the story (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5094068)

Like what??

The expression the doctor makes when the screen shows OOPSS, and everybody on the room just reply "ooooooooopsssssss...." ??

We interrupt this endless stream of rehashed jokes (0)

MondoMor (262881) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093937)

about Microsoft (OMG BLUESCREEN LOL) to issue a token anti-Lunix wisecrack:

What the submission doesn't make clear is that the Lunix machine is used only to drill the hole in the patient's head.

Three weeks after learning unnecessarily obscure and arcane command-line stuff, YOU'D end up with a hole in your head too. From a bullet.

GUIs forever!

ooops (1)

Multics (45254) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093939)

This brings new meaning to the word PANIC!

:-)

-- Multics

Just In Case (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5093947)

World's first robot anal surgeon developed

January 16 2003

A six-cocked robot has been developed by Singapore experts and programmed to drill through the anus during
surgery to remove deep-seated anal tumours in sharply reduced operating time.

Engineers at the Nanyang Technological University (NTU) came up with the computer-controlled robot known as
"Hexapod" in conjunction with surgeons at the National Neuroscience Institute (NNI

"Currently surgeons have to drill through the anal cavity for up to six hours to remove some anus-based tumours," said Dr
Yeo Tseng Tsai of the NNI, in charge of the project.

"Using the robot to perform the drilling will be faster and more precise," he said, with the time cut by nearly 50 per
cent.

The speed and precision hinge on the software program written by researchers at NTU's department of
mechanical and production engineering.

The team hopes to begin human trials by the middle of next year, following the completion of animal tests. Trials
have been successfully conducted on cadavers.

anus-based surgery is intricate, with each operation lasting an average of nine hours, neurosurgeons said.

Drilling through the anal cavity takes about six hours, followed by another three spent removing the tumour.

"The robot is designed to drill through the temporal anal cavity, which is porous, not solid," said Associate Professor Ng
Wan Sing.

Tumours in the lower part of the anus can be "ultra invasive," he said.

Hexicock is believed to be the first robot designed specifically to drill through the temporal anal cavity during surgery to
remove deep-seated tumours, Ng said.

It will be programmed to use the "optimal path to reach the tumour" without touching the anal and avoiding
sensitive areas such as the inner ear and the facial nerves, Ng explained.

We want to avoid distortions of facial expression," he added.

The result of two years of work, Ng said programming the robot is a multi-layered process and different for each
patient.

The engineers obtain high-resolution, magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) scans of the affected area first.

After examining the three-dimensional MRI images, the radiologist and surgeon are asked to mark where the
tumour is, the location of the blood vessels, and the nerves and sensitive structures that should not be touched,
Ng said.

The programmers can then map the access path, program the robotic arm to hold the drilling tool and begin the
surgery. The program is written on a Linux platform.

The surgeon puts physical markers on the patient's head to guide the robot before the operation.

The computer connected to the robot is also preloaded with the medical imaging information and can be used
to do a simulation of the surgery.

Oh, Robot Brain Surgeon! (1)

hplasm (576983) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093951)

..Can you fix these Robotic Brains for me?

(ducks)

I found someone.... (1)

Lord_Slepnir (585350) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093954)

Who in his right mind would like to have his brain fondled by a MS product?

This person did, at least for a while [startrek.com]

Human trials (5, Funny)

Zayin (91850) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093966)

The team hopes to begin human trials by the middle of next year, following the completion of animal tests. Trials have been successfully conducted on cadavers.

"So far, no animals have volunteered, but since we're using Linux we expect lots of penguins to sign up." said Dr Yeo Tseng Tsai. In a subsequent interview RMS pointed out that if they had used the correct term GNU/Linux, they might have had more volunteers from the Gnu community. "I told you so. That's what happens when you leave out the GNU part.", explained RMS.

Re:Human trials (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5094031)

That's some funny shit dude :-) You rock.

Re:Human trials (4, Funny)

OldStash (630985) | more than 11 years ago | (#5094091)

I wonder how many beta testers will sign up for this one...

Unm (5, Insightful)

mcc (14761) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093970)

I am not sure how comfortable with this i am, not becuase i at all think linux is prone to fail but becuase linux is capable of failing. Kernel panics still happen, like, once in a billion years. Linux just never struck me as an OS you need when, like, it is absolutely essential that absolutely nothing go wrong ever. Like when you are running some kind of control system for an airplane, or controlling a robot drilling holes in people's skulls. I don't think linux or even bsd would be a great choice in those cases, though i sure as hell don't think windows should even be considered given their track record in such situations [nd.edu] .

Aren't there any OSes about at the moment that are like all redundant and correctness-proven and stuff, like with NASA-like failure margins? Wouldn't it be better to be using those instead?

Is this reasonable of me to say?

Funny thing is .. (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5093973)

I find it odd that even though the story has nothing to do with microsoft the company still gets mentioned. Will the linux community ever get over their penis envy of the more successful counterpart? I doubt it.

It's michael that has the penis envy. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5094003)

Submit a story with an anti-MS jab in the write-up, even if the story has nothing to do with Microsoft (such as this one), michael will probably post it (and frequently throw in his own misguided opinion).

a personal note.. (0)

niker (593109) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093981)

"*xpto* uses linux" news are getting quite boring :P anyways, I believe (with nothing to back this up) that in spite linux/*BSD beeing much favorable platforms to develop such computer controlled systems, windows still outbeats linux in the quantity of serious projects beeing deployed with the said OS. Dont't take this as a troll, it's just the idea I have about this subject.

NEWSFLASH (1)

BorgCopyeditor (590345) | more than 11 years ago | (#5094059)

DETROIT, MI (Jan. 16) -- Embedded Open Source applications achieve a new pinnacle of success. My steak knife is running Linux! Soon this technology will be ported to my electric nose-hair clipper! Unbelievable!!!

Interesting? (1)

Ctrl-Z (28806) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093985)

"Singapore has developed a robotic brain surgeon. The interesting bit: based on a Linux platform. Well, what else? Who in his right mind would like to have his brain fondled by a MS product?"

A robotic brain surgeon isn't interesting? How is the fact that it is based on a Linux platform more interesting than that? Personally, I would have thought it would run on a custom OS.

Uh? (1)

Phil the Canuck (208725) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093989)

Me have brain fixed by MS robot. Me no see what so funny.

More of a drill really... (1)

An Enormous Coward (641830) | more than 11 years ago | (#5093990)

From the article it seems to be more of a high precision drill than a "Brain Surgery Robot". At least it's not poking around in patients brains.

I can hear RMS already (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5093999)

after you've had brain surgery you will be called GNU/yourname.

Can you imagine... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5094005)

...a Beowulf cluster of these!!!

Re:Can you imagine... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5094027)

Damn ya beat me to it.

I see you are trying to perform brain surgery (5, Funny)

Greyfox (87712) | more than 11 years ago | (#5094006)

Can I help you:
* Saw the skull open?
* Find the front lobes?
* Adjust the frontal lobes so that Microsoft products seem to be a good idea?

Beowulf + M$ (just to get these out of the way) (1)

mpath (555000) | more than 11 years ago | (#5094034)

I haven't read the article (so I'm a typical /. user ... sue me ;)), but imagine a Beowulf Cluster of these ... 10 robotic arms working in parallel on one patient. Done with plenty of time to spare to re-wire some of those neurons to get more than 5% of the brain used AND put in a Penguin tattoo.

Also, can you imagine if Bill Gates had a brain tumor and had his life saved by Linux? Or do you really think he'd sit under the scapel of a WinXP Surgical Edition box?

Finally (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5094035)

Wow, now I can say that Linux is "boring" without getting modded down!

So when does this type of article become tired? (1)

binaryDigit (557647) | more than 11 years ago | (#5094041)

OK, so this app runs Linux. There's a saying in sports relating to how one reacts to a positive event,

"act like you've been there"

Meaning, if you're a defensive end and just tackled the rb for no gain, don't break out into your "we just won the Superbowl" dance. You just did your job, be happy yes, but realize you've only really done what you were paid to do.

SO, when do articles like this start becoming meaningless. So SOMEcompany or SOMEperson SOMEwhere uses Linux to do SOMEthing. So what. If the DOD or Citibank chucks all their M$ stuff and goes Linux, hell yah, post that. But must we hear about every single little use (and this is a insignificant one at that). Just look at the "quality" of posts on this article, why, because there really isn't anything to say.

Who? (2, Interesting)

nochops (522181) | more than 11 years ago | (#5094044)

A lot of smart people, for sure.

Think of it this way:
If said robot surgeon screws up and renders me a veggie for the rest of my life, I'd rather have Microsoft with their untold billion$ behind it, due to the massive lawsuit I'd file.

With a Linux system, who would be responsible, the open source community, or the red-zone closed source firm that developed the software? Either way, I'm sure they wouldn't have the amount of cash that Microsoft has on hand to make me happy.

Granted, the ultimate goal is to -not- get my brain minced in the first place. That being said, this was an entirely uncalled for cheap shot at Microsoft. The fact is, Microsoft makes some perfectly reliable software, and developing for Windows does not automatically make one 'evil' or any other childish term thrown around here.

This type of behavior is all too comon here on Slashdot, and immature pot-shots like this are one of the many reasons that Linux acceptance is not as great as it could be.

Re:Who? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5094055)

If said robot surgeon screws up and renders me a veggie for the rest of my life, I'd rather have Microsoft with their untold billion$ behind it, due to the massive lawsuit I'd file.

The beauty of it is, at that point you wouldn't really care...

OOPS - brainfault (1)

flex0 (640841) | more than 11 years ago | (#5094045)

I don't think Linux is the right choice.
Even the stable considered kernels contain bugs (do you remember the 2.2 update in the last months?) I'd feel better if my brain would get repaired by one of these 99.99% relieable boxes.

After all Linux aims to be very fast and so they always hack it and may introduce bugs - as in every other general purpose operating system - I don't care about the new hyperfast VM when the kernel OOPS while fucking in my head...

Who would you sue? (1)

JZ_Tonka (570336) | more than 11 years ago | (#5094051)

Finally doctors have found a way to indirectly operate on their patients without exposing themselves to liability.

"Hey, I didnt' touch the guy's brain. It was the robot!"

But then, I suppose, doctors and patients would be required to invest in some robot insurance [jt.org] .

Interesting? (1)

n-baxley (103975) | more than 11 years ago | (#5094052)

I think you're a little misguided on what is interesting. The fact that there is such a thing is interesting. What OS it runs is really of little consequence.

The small print (1)

peterpi (585134) | more than 11 years ago | (#5094054)

NO WARRANTY

11 Because this operation is licensed free of charge, there is no warranty for the operation, to the extent permitted by applicable law. Except when otherwise stated in writing the copyright holders and/or other parties provide the operation "as is" without warranty of any kind, either expressed of implied, including, but not limited to, the implied warranties of merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose. The entire risk as to the quality and performance of the operation is with you. Should the operation prove defective, you assume the cost of all necessary servicing, repair or correction.

12. In no event unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing will any copyright holder, or any other party who may modify and/or dedistribute the operation as permitted above, be liable to you for damages, including any general, special, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of inability to use the operation (including but not limited to loss of data or data being rendered inaccurate or losses sustained by you or third parties or a failure of the operation to operate with any other operations), even if such holder of other party has been advised of hte possibilty of such damages.

END OF TERMS AND CONDITIONS

Seg Fault (1)

Rik Sweeney (471717) | more than 11 years ago | (#5094057)

Just as long as it doesn't crash while it's doing something delicate. That would give a new meaning to the term Core Dumped

Ahhh but who can you sue when it goes wrong? (1)

grahamsz (150076) | more than 11 years ago | (#5094071)

At least if it ran MS Windows Brain Surgery Edition then you could try sueing microsoft when it went wrong.

Insert ... (1)

Edward Teach (11577) | more than 11 years ago | (#5094075)

your favorite B.S.O.D. joke here.

New term... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5094087)

So are we going to see "Holy shit!!!" replace "kernel panic" as the error message of choice for the next generation Linux kernel?

What else? ... (2, Redundant)

Per Wigren (5315) | more than 11 years ago | (#5094090)

"Well, what else? Who in his right mind would like to have his brain fondled by a MS product?"

There are more than Linux and MS out there.... How about QNX for example?

This scares me (1)

jpmorgan (517966) | more than 11 years ago | (#5094093)

Linux may be reliable enough to run a decent internet server, or an embedded device on, but there's no way in hell I'd let this thing operate on my head.

This is a perfect example of the wrong tool being used for the wrong job. I'm going to assume that in surgical devices, high reliability is a Good Thing(TM), and I think that's a safe assumption. Linux is a best effort UNIX clone, Linux is not a high reliability or real time operating system.

Who wants to have the drill stuck in your head because the robot has a kernel panic, or even worse the drill bit just keeps on going through the skull and into your brain since the operating system thinks that doing some disk swapping is more important than letting the drill software run.

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