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Buy a Moller SkyCar Prototype on eBay

michael posted more than 11 years ago | from the make-you-heirs-happy dept.

Technology 178

HobbySpacer writes "Moller International has announced that it will offer its first working Skycar for sale on eBay starting January 31st - Press Release. The M400P prototype has repeatedly flown short hovering flights on tethers in tests since 2001 (see videos). The company warns that although '[a]ll systems are operational. Potential buyers are cautioned that this is a prototype model and considered an experimental aircraft.' Also, 'the Skycar has not yet been approved as a road vehicle.' A more powerful 2nd gen production version is currently under construction for longer untethered test flights this year."

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So, u can buy a jestson's car now? (2, Funny)

Pionar (620916) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158434)

How very Hanna-Barberaish.

Re:So, u can buy a jestson's car now? (0, Redundant)

TalonKarrde989 (637177) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158436)

Interesting. I want one =)

Re:So, u can buy a jestson's car now? (3, Informative)

droopus (33472) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158589)

Uh huh. What I don't get is once it collapses into a briefcase, how did Moller reduce the mass so you can actually lift the briefcase?

In case the sarcasm tag wasn't on, I no more believe that Moller can actually make a reliable flying car that gets 28mpg (running on good old Texaco Regular of course) @ 350mph @ 20k feet @ 65dba than they could accomplish the aforementioned mass-reduction-briefcase trick.

What they will offer is a hunk of red, expensive vaporware that sits in your garage like the Russian shuttle [floridatoday.com] they tried to sell on ebay a year or so ago.

Maybe ebay should have a "got too much money sitting around?" section....

FP (0, Funny)

Fake Pie (555572) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158435)

Think 5 bucks will win the auction?

I hear the next version... (1)

Mr. Smoove (160347) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158441)

...is based on the DeLorean!

Re:I hear the next version... (2, Funny)

rusty0101 (565565) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158505)

With or without the Flux capacitor, or the underseat accessory packages?

Re:I hear the next version... (2, Funny)

EricV314a (581711) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158695)

Do you mean it will be funded by cocaine trafficking?

cool! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5158444)

I'd like to have one, but what's the point if its illegal to taker 'er out for a spin?

walk (-1, Troll)

Want Some Shoes (640625) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158638)

If you cant drive, you can always walk. I'd be happy to provide you with some shoes if you want.

Re:cool! (1)

RPI Geek (640282) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158752)

I'd like to have one, but what's the point if its illegal to taker 'er out for a spin?

Being classified as an experimental aircraft, it'd be legal to take out for a flight, but you would have to have the appropriate pilot's certificate (My guess, as I'm still waiting for the pictures of the thing to download is a 'rotorcraft' endorsement).

Question (5, Funny)

jdkincad (576359) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158450)

Why would a flying car need to be approved as a road vehicle?

Re:Question (2, Funny)

lexarius (560925) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158495)

You probably get better mileage if you don't have to expend lots of fuel keeping the thing up.

Two lane highway. Two trucks taking them up. Can't pass horizontally - pass vertically!

Re:Question (1)

r00zky (622648) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158624)

>Two lane highway. Two trucks taking them up. Can't pass horizontally - pass vertically!

get in the way of some high voltage cables, and then crash into a bridge over the highway. 25 deaths and 20.000 persons without electricity for 2 days

Better not have to pay an assurance for a vehicle like that...

Re:Question (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5158500)

Because dumb poeple like you asking such stupid questions shouldn't be allowed on the road.

Ebay link? (1, Redundant)

TenderMuffin (319798) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158452)

Anyone have the link to the car on ebay?

Re:Ebay link? (1)

Remik (412425) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158481)

Read the post, it says it won't be up on e-bay until next week.

-R

OK.... (3, Funny)

KimiDalamori (579444) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158455)

So, basically I can buy a car that is perfectly legal to leave in my garage and never take out. Wicked, I can see it now: "Dad, can I have the keys to the skycar?" "No, son, we're not sure yet whether or not it will blow up." ... I say if someone has the extra money to buy this thing, he can give it to me instead, I'll put it to better use.

Re:OK.... (2, Interesting)

Maniakes (216039) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158545)

So, basically I can buy a car that is perfectly legal to leave in my garage and never take out.

You can drive it on your own property (or any private property w/approval of the owner), and you can fly it over international waters . I would think that you could fly it below a certain altitude over your own property, but I can't find a link.

So yes, completely useless for transport (unless you're Ted Turner [turnerfoundation.org] and own millions of acres of land), this isn't much use as transport. But there's always the "Cool! I have a flying car!" factor, plus if Moller actually attains commercial success their prototype will have huge collector's value.

Re:OK.... (2, Informative)

PurpleFloyd (149812) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158931)

Experimental private aircraft are perfectly legal to fly (at least in the US); they just don't go through all the really heavy test-to-destruction stuff that the FAA requires for some components. Of course, they still need to be approved as airworthy, follow maintinance schedules, and have a big "EXPERIMENTAL" sticker posted on the side, but if you could prove it's airworthy, you could fly it to your heart's content.

<DISCLAIMER TYPE="LONGWINDED,DUMB">
Note that I am not an FAA representative; if you want to license your airplane, talk to someone who is. I take no responsibility for anyone trying to replicate the Spruce Goose in their spare time, then flying it, crashing, and saying "It's OK, I read it on Slashdot"! Don't be a moron. Please.
</DISCLAIMER>

Right after MOO3... (5, Funny)

TrixX (187353) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158456)


So I guess Duke Nukem Forever is coming out soon.

Re:Right after MOO3... (1)

nEoN nOoDlE (27594) | more than 11 years ago | (#5159000)

but where are my damn bubble cities?

The flying Exoeskeleton (2, Interesting)

ToKsUri (608742) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158461)

Any relationship with the flying exoskeleton also sold at ebay? Are all thie flying vehicles prototypes ending at ebay? Is no one succeeding to end in a real shop?

Re:The flying Exoeskeleton (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5158604)

Laugh, submitted that story to Slashdot..., they rejected it like all the buyers too!!!

No. (1)

Goonie (8651) | more than 11 years ago | (#5159053)

No connection, except that they're both trying to build personal VTOL craft.

As for whether anyone has succeeded, well, the closest thing you'll find is probably this Japanese mini-helicopter [engineeringsystem.co.jp] that was featured on /. a while ago. It flies, but from all reports it's not exactly the safest gadget ever made...

Question (2, Interesting)

unterderbrucke (628741) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158464)

Why would anyone buy this?

It isn't approved for traffic, and it's pretty much a useless prototype.

oh well, ebay auctions are great for slashdot articles at least...

Re:Question (1)

Camulus (578128) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158542)

Well if it works out they way they want it to (ex. car of the future), the first prototype could be a pretty valuable commodity for collectors or museums. Besides, maybe some one just wants to give the company so capital and get something in return. Have you ever seen what some people buy at a charity auction?

Um... why? (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5158465)

Why on earth would a company with something as groundbreaking as a flying car sell the prototype, especially a functional version?

Surely it would be the one that you'd want to keep and the one that has the most company history in it so to speak. In any case, selling the prototype off seems very strange...

Re:Um... why? (2, Insightful)

lexarius (560925) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158516)

Because the prototype is useless. Oh, sure, it flies and all, but what is a company going to do with a prototype? It's the designs that matter. The prototype is just to prove that the designs work and find where the flaws are. After that, it is an asset that isn't doing any work. So they turn it into money so they can afford to make the next version.

Re:Um... why? Close... (1)

Bullseye_blam (589856) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158830)

On their webpage, Moller said something about using the money generated from the car to fund its production. It looks like the link to that quote died, though...

Re:Um... why? (4, Funny)

JohnFluxx (413620) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158549)

Personally I think it's all about insurance.

It said that it can't do untethered flight because the insurance would go way up. Also they haven't yet tried any manned flights for the same reason.

What they want is for someone to fly it. They are banking on that someone who pays $1m for a flying car is actually going to want to use it.
Then they just check the darwin awards every day to see how long it lasts... :)

Re:Um... why? (1)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158773)

Actually, I read from a place or two that despite Moeller's assertions that it is a stable airplane, the FAA believes otherwise and wouldn't let him fly it unteathered.

The sources I've read also paint the man as not much more than a politician crossed with a used car dealer (read: big fat liar).

Take that however you like it.

Re:Um... why? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5158586)

Because it is a completely useless concept with no future?

It is poweree by 4 rotary engines, and if any one fail, you will fall to the ground. The engine is a new and not very well tested type. Let's assume you are lucky, and each engine only fails every 4000 hours, your skycar will suffer a catasrophic crash every 1000 hours. And that is just the engines!!. A plane and even a helicopter can glide to a controlled ground impact. This will not.

Statistically you will be much safer as a bull rider in a rodeo.

Re:Um... why? (1)

syadasti (26390) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158606)

Nah, in theory, the M400 can fly with only 2 operational engines. At least thats what its creators say. And its 3 onboard computers can take over each others operations if one or two of the three happen to fail. It has a parachute system and crumple zone nose cone.

Re:Um... why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5158731)

no, there are 4 nacells with 2 engines each. 2x4 is 8. Eight engines. I believe their site gives some information about if x ammount of engines went out, and that you would still be alright. I believe that a sky car with 7 functioning engines would have amuch safer 'glide' or controlled drop than a chopper.

I want one... (3, Funny)

Kshu (608394) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158468)

And anyone who knows how roads in Romania look like will agree with me...

Willy Wonka Where Are You? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5158469)

I'd like to see a Chocolate Factory up for sale on eBay, that would make my day, then I could finally make chocolate gold pressed latnum bars!

Oompa Loompa world!

Affordable? (5, Interesting)

theNote (319197) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158470)

The site says the car is "personally affordable".

Then, when you click on the purchase link [moller.com] you find out it costs $1,000,000.

Re:Affordable? (1)

tjowatonna (620270) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158584)

that's only if you want one of the first 100 produced. If you don't care until after 400 have already been shipped it's only $500,000. [/satire]

Re:Affordable? (1)

Sgs-Cruz (526085) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158628)

"The number of UHNWIs rose 2.6% to just over 57,000 people at the end of last year." (Ultra-HNWIs have financial assets of more than U.S. $30 million.) "

(See here [ml.com] for the details.)

Of those 57,000 people, I'm sure one of them can afford a flying car :) I know I would if I had that kinda cash...

Re:Affordable? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5158744)

(Ultra-HNWIs have financial assets of more than U.S. $30 million.)


I think that source is a little confused. "Assets in excess of $30 mil" and "Net worth in excess of $30 mil" are two very different things. So... which are they talking about?

Re:Affordable? (1)

pummer (637413) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158753)

If I had that cash, I'd get me one of these [ussubs.com] . W00T! 213' personal luxury submarine!

Re:Affordable? (1)

Bodrius (191265) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158796)

To me that just means the author of the quote (inventor/webmaster/marketeer) can personally afford the car.

I don't see where's the confusion.

Doh! (4, Funny)

JohnFluxx (413620) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158473)

I was all set to place a bid, and had my millions ready to put down. I complied with everything they wanted, then I saw right near the end it said:

"You must be 18 years of age or older to Bid."

dammit.

Sweet If I get this... (1)

slothbait (2922) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158476)

... I can act out stuff from, Kevin Smith's The Flying car [viewaskew.com]

if 1000 slashdot readers jump on the car (3, Funny)

deft (253558) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158477)

will it come down as fast as the server came down when 1000 slahsdot readers jumped on it?

Re:if 1000 slashdot readers jump on the car (1)

sheean.nl (565364) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158705)

Due to the fact that it's not legal to fly this thing, it will probably not even come up....

...but 1000 slashdot readers jumping on it will probably turn it into a multi-million dollar piece of high-tech compacted metal.

Re:if 1000 slashdot readers jump on the car (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5158797)

Considering the average weight of a slashdotter is about 300 pounds, it won't take anywhere near 1000 of you losers to bring this thing down.

Re:if 1000 slashdot readers jump on the car (1)

Bodrius (191265) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158820)

For some strange reason this beckons the idea of someone-less-than-brilliant putting a web server in one of these things.

Which would beg the question of what happens first:

- 1000 simulatenous HTTP request bring the car down.
- 1000-cumulative-pounds of slashdot readers bring the car down (physically).
- 1 slashdot reader makes a Bewoulf cluster of 1000 of these things.

Ah. eBay. (3, Funny)

Big Mark (575945) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158484)

I'm seriously tempted to put a bid in for this and not pay. I'd get the mother of all negative feedback then!

Negative from SkyCar: Seller didn't pay and is a cunt. E-
Response by ukmarkyboy: Admit it. You're the goatse man.

-Mark

Looks like (2, Funny)

gearheadsmp (569823) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158488)

they'll have to use the income from the sale on e-bay to buy a new web server after this Slashdotting.

Moller...bwahahahahaha (4, Insightful)

Alioth (221270) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158494)

Moller's Skycar has been "six months away from flight" for longer than I've been alive. The thing is a nightmare from an inteference drag standpoint, and his figures for fuel consumption are totally unrealistic (especially as the BSFC for the type of engine he's using is worse than traditional spark-ignition reciprocating engines).

Based on Moller's track record, the thing will _never_ fly. All it does is suck investment money. He's even worse than Bede (at least a few of Bede's aircraft actually flew and were successful).

Re:Moller...bwahahahahaha (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5158563)

Totally agree.



More importantly, the design is flawed. The first basic rule of any aircraft design should be "can it glide back to earth in the event of a complete power failure?" Conventional aircrafts can glide and helicopters autorotates, the Moller Skycar will just drop like a rock.

Re:Moller...bwahahahahaha (1)

brucet (42348) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158650)

The first basic rule of any aircraft design should be "can it glide back to earth in the event of a complete power failure?"

So what happens to a helicopter in the event of a complete power failure?

Re:Moller...bwahahahahaha (1)

Tyler Eaves (344284) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158670)

Autorotation. The blades don't just stopped. It''s basically a glide.

Re:Moller...bwahahahahaha (3, Informative)

jerryasher (151512) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158908)

The way autorotation works on a helicopter (not a gyrocopter) is truly amazing. It converts stored energy (height) into rotational energy (you rotate (twist) the blade to decrease their angle of attack "bite" so they spin really fast). Meanwhile you plummet. That's not true. You don't plummet. (But it sure looks that way.)

When you get close to the ground (one chance!) you convert the rotational energy into lift. You retwist the blades generating enough lift to slow you to landing speed.

I've only watched practice sessions. But I think the next step is to change your shorts.

Re:Moller...bwahahahahaha (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5158673)

It autorotates usually ending in a relatively decent landing.

see included link:
http://www.kyosho.com/glossary-heli.html

Re:Moller...bwahahahahaha (1)

tadheckaman (578425) | more than 11 years ago | (#5159017)

gee, if you READ the web page, it says right there: 2 parachutes AND it has 8 engines total... So IF this thing dies at 20000 feet, you sorta aim it for the ground and level off at 5000 feet or something and pop the parachutes...

Re:Moller...bwahahahahaha (1)

TerryAtWork (598364) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158583)

BSFC definition at

http://www.westechperformance.com/pages/Tech_Lib ra ry/Understanding/bsfc.html

Re:Moller...bwahahahahaha (1)

rindeee (530084) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158677)

Hey mister...you had better change that .sig and I mean NOW! It's not Palladium it's "next-generation secure computing base."

Re:Moller...bwahahahahaha (1)

TerryAtWork (598364) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158711)

This ok?

Re:Moller...bwahahahahaha (1)

Jaysyn (203771) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158805)

I guess you have to change your sig.

Jaysyn

Re:Moller...bwahahahahaha (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5158747)

um? wtf do you know, have you seen the plans? did you work on it with him? stfu.

Moller , decades of vaporware (1)

Animats (122034) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158887)

Moller's Skycar has been "six months away from flight" for longer than I've been alive.

Yeah. I have Moller's brochure from 1974. His "Discojet" was supposed to be about a year from commercial delivery. That was 29 years ago.

His "Skycar" doesn't fly. Hovering while suspended from a crane doesn't qualify as flying.

In three decades Moller hasn't produced a free-flying prototype. That's inexcusable. Such things were built in the 1950s, after all. The AvroCar and the Hiller Flying Platform both flew in the 1950s. Stability was lousy, range was lousy, and fuel economy was lousy, but they flew. VTOL is only hard if it has to work well enough to be useful. If all you need is a cool demo, it's straightforward. But he can't even do that.

Moller also claimed in 2001 to have a contract [skyaid.org] with CALTRANS for an unmanned "Aerobot" for bridge inspection, but that project doesn't seem to have been heard from since.

Is there any other footage of the tests? (1)

I Am The Owl (531076) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158514)

They seem to be all in Real Media format, and I refuse to install that spyware-ridden piece of crapware called "RealOne". Links would be much appreciated, even to WMVs.

Re:Is there any other footage of the tests? (1)

JohnFluxx (413620) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158530)

mplayer plays them. I know, I just tried.
You might need to compile it in tho.

Re:Is there any other footage of the tests? (1)

I Am The Owl (531076) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158618)

Are you sure? I was reading the mplayer FAQ the other day for just this reason, and it said you needed to install RealOne to get the use of their libraries.

Re:Is there any other footage of the tests? (1)

JohnFluxx (413620) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158737)

Probably. Or you could just find someone with the libraries and use that.
All you are after is the codecs. You could always install it, copy over the codecs, and delete it again :)

Re:Is there any other footage of the tests? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5158607)

ummmm... did you try mPlayer?

Uhm... (1)

andbutso (637818) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158518)

Potential buyers are cautioned that this is a prototype model and considered an experimental aircraft

If it is still a protype and experimental then why don't they just wait until it is far more developed rather than offering a mediocre imitation of what they promise which will probably make itself very apparent as such?

Re:Uhm... (1)

JohnFluxx (413620) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158565)

They are selling it as a sort of piece of history in the making.
If they improved it then sold it, it wouldn't be the first version, now would it?

Re:Uhm... (2, Interesting)

Catbeller (118204) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158691)

They need the money. Seriously need it.

All the power to them: Moeller's been at this his whole life and he deserves to win one.

And Kevin Smith should buy the freaking flying car!

Re:Uhm... (2, Informative)

RPI Geek (640282) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158832)

If it is still a protype and experimental then why don't they just wait until it is far more developed...

Well, the fact that it's considered an experimental aircraft does not necessarily mean it's unsafe. Just by the fact that it's flown (tethered or not) I'm sure that they've gone through the design process many times over.

I used to fly Cessnas, and while I was at the airport, I'd frequently see a canard-style plane that was rated as experimental simply because it was a kit plane and the owner built it in his garage. The plane was not unsafe; the owner told me that it had excellent stall characteristics, that it gave a smoother ride than most conventional small planes he's been in, and that it was generally easier to fly because it had better visibility in all directions. Also, a friend of my father is building an amphibious plane in his garage, and once he gets it flying, it will be also be considered experimental simply because it's a kit plane. The plans for the particular model he's making are constantly changing, and many of the minor changes are his doing because he found better ways to build it as he progressed.

Sorry for such a long post, I just wanted to clear up any confusion you had about 'experimental' meaning 'untested', because they are VERY different terms.

Ok... (4, Funny)

Cyno01 (573917) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158521)

But when are we going to get the flying cars?!? Oh wait...

Not road legal? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5158528)

it is not road legal

Okay, is it just me or does the thing FLY.

Test pilot (3, Funny)

duckpoopy (585203) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158536)

This is their way of tricking some fool into paying to be the test pilot.

Does it come with... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5158539)

a prototype of Duke Nukem Forever as well?

*ducks*

Pilot's License... (1)

SwedishChef (69313) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158554)

Experimental aircraft (even experimental gliders) require a pilot's license. Good luck finding an instructor for this little gem.

Pigs are flying... (5, Funny)

spac (125766) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158574)

First MOO3, now a flying car?

Can you hear that? It's hell... freezing over.

Why is it..... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5158592)

That all the cool flying devices lately seem to be unable to um....how do i put this politely.....fly?

Just you wait (1)

sulli (195030) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158594)

until the San Francisco Board of Supervisors gets a hold of this idea.

Vaporware no more? (2, Insightful)

bandwidthsignal (600344) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158599)

It's funny, I thought that Duke Nukem Forever would come out before flying cars did...

So what .. you can probably buy your grandma.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5158609)

on eBay.

Nothing to see really. Move along.

Count me out (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5158625)

Even though everyone and their Grandma has to go to university these days just to get a living job, I don't think people in general are disciplined and smart enough to handle a flying car.

Roads? Where we're going... (3, Funny)

mraymer (516227) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158648)

...we don't need roads!

[cue Back to the Future theme]

Now, someone please tell me... when can I get my hands on a damn Mr. Fusion?! Ugh...

I love my Job (1)

jlechem (613317) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158660)

It's so nice to see my POE benefitting humanity in such a good way. The weird shit I see pass through here everyday. Flying cars, frankenstein squirrels, there isn't anything some sucker won't buy or sell.

But really I think they want the buyer to be the one to suffer the consequences if the thing explodes in midair. And I've always wondered when I was going to get my flying car!

Legal to fly (4, Interesting)

mikewas (119762) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158674)

This falls within the experimental aircraft catagory. This includes just about any aircraft that didn't come off of an assembly line including one-of-a-kind or kit-built aircraft as well as aircraft not designed for commercial use like warbirds.

The Experimental Aircraft Asscociation [eaa.org] is a group of people interested in these types of aircraft. There's a large airshow hosted by them in Osh Kosh [airventure.org] .

These aircraft are subjected to thorough inspection by certified mechanics and FAA inspectors during their construction or restoration. In addition, owners of this type of aircraft tend to be more knowledgable than your average privat pilot. The result is that aircraft certificated (it's an FAA term, not a typo) as experimental aircraft have an excellent safety record. You can fly them anywhere any other private aircraft may be flown.

Re:Legal to fly (1)

asparagus (29121) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158776)

Loosely related, but my dad's RV-7 is almost done [jpkoonce.net] .

Gots to love the chain to the truck and the gas can kept in place by blocks. It's all in the details.

-Brett

Saw at the Texas State Fair (Dallas) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5158679)

No kidding, it had several computer screens - they were C64s running on them. WTF. The function keys, from the keyboard were mounted to the left/right of each display.

Re:Saw at the Texas State Fair (Dallas) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5158697)

Nothing wrong with C64s. Tons more reliable than Win CE running in a BMW, wouldn't you say?
I know, I know, everyone has to go to university to get a living job these days, so everything *has* to be super complex in order to create all the jobs required by this marvelous system.

Based on old technology (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5158685)

Pages are extremely slow? I wonder why :). Show me a vehicle based on anti-gravity or magnitec technology... then that will impress me.

Segway (1)

Esion Modnar (632431) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158714)

I'd sooner buy a Segway, and I ain't buying a Segway. Travelling on highways is hairy enough without having to worry about power lines, birds, and oh yeah, that ever present assh*le who knows nothing about how to drive a flying car. Just a bad idea.

You really want these things flying overhead? Home insurance would go up because of these things falling through your roof.

I suspect that if flying horses ever once existed, we killed them off after the umpteenth horse turd ripped through our shingles.

Let's say these machines.... (2, Interesting)

Effofx (640933) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158736)

become legal.

Will there be a need for "flying" insurance?
Will "fly-by" shootings get an extra ordinary amount of media attention like their grounded counterparts.
Will fast food "fly-throughs" replace drive-up windows?
How will the government tax - air space tax?

is it just me (2, Funny)

andih8u (639841) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158745)

or does that thing look like it could transform into an autobot? --

It appears . . . (1)

maxentius (603949) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158768)

the website hasn't flown untethered either.

Who would want one? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5158891)

How the hell is this ever going to replace the automobile? Listen to the noise that thing makes! It's like a couple dozen chainsaws all in chorus. The people who are near the testflights have to wear ear protectors and some kind of face masks to keep dust and other debris out of their mouth while breathing.

Conversation of the future:

Dad: OK kids! Let's get ready to fly! Don't forget your ear plugs and dust masks!
Kids: Yay!

Coool, i like this kind of crazy inventors (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5158906)

i don't think this is an investment fraud. These people just believe in their inventions. Cool.

Oh Great! (1)

the eric conspiracy (20178) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158953)

Now I can chase down those @#$$~~! birds after they shit on my newly waxed car!

Cool toy except... (1)

praedor (218403) | more than 11 years ago | (#5158978)

They are not designed so that you can really fly them. They were/are designed to fly themselves. You tell it where you want to go and it handles the rest.


I have followed this thing since its inception years ago. They were looking to create a means for travel for more than just a few people (though the cost ensures that only a few trust-fundies will ever own one so it doesn't matter as much). They knew it would make the skies too dangerous for most yahoos with a car to transfer into the air, plus it would be an FAA licensing nightmare. Thus, they intended to take it out of the owner's hands and make it automatic. You may "drive" it out of the garage and taxi a ways, but when it comes time to fly somewhere, the intent is you enter the destination and let it rip. It takes you there, flown by itself with inputs from a still nonexistent system for air traffic control. You as the passenger would simply sit there and read, look out the window, play video games, etc, until the thing got to the destination and landed - then you could have it to taxi/drive to a parking spot.


Give me total control over it - let ME fly the thing - and it becomes cool. Otherwise, its richboy trash.

How to get prototype pilots... (1)

haggar (72771) | more than 11 years ago | (#5159061)

..that will even pay for the privilege!?
This is the mother of all cunning ideas!
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