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BSDCon 2003 - Call for Papers

Hemos posted more than 11 years ago | from the get-your-papers-together dept.

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Dan writes "Usenix's Alex Walker announces that BSDCon 2003 Program Committee invites you to contribute original and innovative material on BSD and Open Source topics ranging from embedded BSD application development & deployment, BSD kernels & desktop, internet, security and network services, systems administration and much more. You can check here for more information and submission guidelines."

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First BSD Rulz Post! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5222332)

BSD Rulz!!!!!

My Paper: reviving BSD (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5222444)

I'll discuss supplimental oxygen, steroids, and the ever popular flamefests on the mailing lists.

Seriously, has any one ever studied the cycle of open software participation: initiation, contribution, contenion, frustration, reconciliation, repeat, eventual departure?

Look at who leaves after lengthy time at being involved. Is there something smelly at the Bazaar?

Yeah, right (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5222511)

There will be like, six people at this conference. They'll all be wearing Perl shirts and have not showered for days.

Note (Was Re:Yeah, right) (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5222721)

There will be like, six people at this conference. They'll all be wearing Perl shirts and have not showered for days.

No this is BSD CON. You're thinking about LUG meetings.

Former developer lashes out: What Killed FreeBSD (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5223656)

The End of FreeBSD

[ed. note: in the following text, former FreeBSD developer Mike Smith gives his reasons for abandoning FreeBSD]

When I stood for election to the FreeBSD core team nearly two years ago, many of you will recall that it was after a long series of debates during which I maintained that too much organisation, too many rules and too much formality would be a bad thing for the project.

Today, as I read the latest discussions on the future of the FreeBSD project, I see the same problem; a few new faces and many of the old going over the same tired arguments and suggesting variations on the same worthless schemes. Frankly I'm sick of it.

FreeBSD used to be fun. It used to be about doing things the right way. It used to be something that you could sink your teeth into when the mundane chores of programming for a living got you down. It was something cool and exciting; a way to spend your spare time on an endeavour you loved that was at the same time wholesome and worthwhile.

It's not anymore. It's about bylaws and committees and reports and milestones, telling others what to do and doing what you're told. It's about who can rant the longest or shout the loudest or mislead the most people into a bloc in order to legitimise doing what they think is best. Individuals notwithstanding, the project as a whole has lost track of where it's going, and has instead become obsessed with process and mechanics.

So I'm leaving core. I don't want to feel like I should be "doing something" about a project that has lost interest in having something done for it. I don't have the energy to fight what has clearly become a losing battle; I have a life to live and a job to keep, and I won't achieve any of the goals I personally consider worthwhile if I remain obligated to care for the project.

Discussion

I'm sure that I've offended some people already; I'm sure that by the time I'm done here, I'll have offended more. If you feel a need to play to the crowd in your replies rather than make a sincere effort to address the problems I'm discussing here, please do us the courtesy of playing your politics openly.

From a technical perspective, the project faces a set of challenges that significantly outstrips our ability to deliver. Some of the resources that we need to address these challenges are tied up in the fruitless metadiscussions that have raged since we made the mistake of electing officers. Others have left in disgust, or been driven out by the culture of abuse and distraction that has grown up since then. More may well remain available to recruitment, but while the project is busy infighting our chances for successful outreach are sorely diminished.

There's no simple solution to this. For the project to move forward, one or the other of the warring philosophies must win out; either the project returns to its laid-back roots and gets on with the work, or it transforms into a super-organised engineering project and executes a brilliant plan to deliver what, ultimately, we all know we want.

Whatever path is chosen, whatever balance is struck, the choosing and the striking are the important parts. The current indecision and endless conflict are incompatible with any sort of progress.

Trying to dissect the above is far beyond the scope of any parting shot, no matter how distended. All I can really ask of you all is to let go of the minutiae for a moment and take a look at the big picture. What is the ultimate goal here? How can we get there with as little overhead as possible? How would you like to be treated by your fellow travellers?

Shouts

To the Slashdot "BSD is dying" crowd - big deal. Death is part of the cycle; take a look at your soft, pallid bodies and consider that right this very moment, parts of you are dying. See? It's not so bad.

To the bulk of the FreeBSD committerbase and the developer community at large - keep your eyes on the real goals. It's when you get distracted by the politickers that they sideline you. The tireless work that you perform keeping the system clean and building is what provides the platform for the obsessives and the prima donnas to have their moments in the sun. In the end, we need you all; in order to go forwards we must first avoid going backwards.

To the paranoid conspiracy theorists - yes, I work for Apple too. No, my resignation wasn't on Steve's direct orders, or in any way related to work I'm doing, may do, may not do, or indeed what was in the tea I had at lunchtime today. It's about real problems that the project faces, real problems that the project has brought upon itself. You can't escape them by inventing excuses about outside influence, the problem stems from within.

To the politically obsessed - give it a break, if you can. No, the project isn't a lemonade stand anymore, but it's not a world-spanning corporate juggernaut either and some of the more grandiose visions going around are in need of a solid dose of reality. Keep it simple, stupid.

To the grandstanders, the prima donnas, and anyone that thinks that they can hold the project to ransom for their own agenda - give it a break, if you can. When the current core were elected, we took a conscious stand against vigorous sanctions, and some of you have exploited that. A new core is going to have to decide whether to repeat this mistake or get tough. I hope they learn from our errors.

Future

I started work on FreeBSD because it was fun. If I'm going to continue, it has to be fun again. There are things I still feel obligated to do, and with any luck I'll find the time to meet those obligations.

However I don't feel an obligation to get involved in the political mess the project is in right now. I tried, I burnt out. I don't feel that my efforts were worthwhile. So I won't be standing for election, I won't be shouting from the sidelines, and I probably won't vote in the next round of ballots.

You could say I'm packing up my toys. I'm not going home just yet, but I'm not going to play unless you can work out how to make the project somewhere fun to be again.

= Mike

--

To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. -- Theodore Roosevelt

What's that smell? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5227682)

Did something die? It smells like something's dead.

RIPPER DRUG OVERDOSE VIDEO!!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5228177)

You can find it here:

[Ed: illegal content snipped.]

BSD IS DEAD! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5231608)

It is official; Netcraft now confirms: *BSD is dying

One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

You don't need to be a Kreskin [amazingkreskin.com] to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.

FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.

Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

Fact: *BSD is dying

Re:BSD IS DEAD! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5231779)

I cant believe there still are people (hmm. trolls) that take
the "scientific" paper on http://www.samag.com/documents/s=1148/sam0107a/010 7a.htm
seriously.

Look at the Kernel Tweaks for High Performance
section when they write:

On FreeBSD: Append to /etc/sysctl (or you can use sysctl -w to add these):

kern.maxfiles=65536
kern.maxfilesperproc=32768

They are rediculous.

Oh fuck this section is funny (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5248352)

Only one comment that is rated at a one or above.
The rest are trolls.

Not only is *BSD dead, the trolls are pciking the carcass clean.

You'd only get a roll of 4 ply toliet paper from me.

Yep, this is another troll.

Re:Oh fuck this section is funny (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5249063)

> Yep, this is another troll.

you are not fucked up enuf.
(are you running linux or something?)

Re:Oh fuck this section is funny (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5255692)

Fuck I run Mac os X at work (and Windows 2000) and Windows XP at home (along with Debian).

I just can't decide.

LOL.

Conference is looking for papers. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5251841)

Maybe you should submit that as a paper? "BSD: Dead or Undead?"

Just what I thought.. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5250629)

BSD is dead.

*BSD is dead (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5269235)

It is official; Netcraft now confirms: *BSD is dying

One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

You don't need to be a Kreskin [amazingkreskin.com] to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.

FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.

Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save terminally ill *BSD at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

Fact: *BSD is dying

ha ha! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5270920)

http://www.linuxisforbitches.com/bsdvlinux.php

Yea, tell me again how there are only going to be geeks wearing perl shirts there?

Re:ha ha! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5283609)

Shemale geeks are still geeks, and I'm sure he has a perl shirt underneath the slutsuit.

B - S - D - E - A - D (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5285849)

Subject line says it all.

BSD is EAD??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5292175)

Seems like you haven't been paying attention around here much.

Is there any way that somebody could mod down (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5292200)

everything to -1? That would be really funny.

Thanks

P.S. To get you started: BSD is dead, etc.

stick a fork in it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5310673)

It's dead. Fini. Kaput: *BSD is dead
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