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IPv6 Application Competition - win $10,000

chrisd posted more than 11 years ago | from the 32-bits-are-not-enough dept.

Programming 217

sneekz writes "The IPv6 Promotion Council of Japan has announced a competition for developers of IPv6-enabled applications. Various prizes up to $10,000 for ideas and actual implementations, and you keep the rights to your work. From their site: 'The contest will award developers of applications and software which helps to create new possibilities in the Internet world.'"

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FIRST I LIKE MEN (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268320)

FP!

First Post? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268324)

Gotcha!!

Read The Story Guys (-1, Funny)

Slashdotess (605550) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268327)

This story should be renamed "the only-working open source business model."

Re:Read The Story Guys (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268346)

You're lucky you chose to post this in 2003 or down the troll-shoot you would go!

Re:Read The Story Guys (-1)

GhostseTroll (582659) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268356)

A professor at the University of Mississippi is giving a
lecture on the supernatural. To get a feel for his
audience, he asks: "How many people here believe in
ghostses?" About 90 students raise their hands.

"Well, that's a good start. Out of those of you who
believe in ghostses, do any of you think you've ever seen
a ghostse?" About 40 students raise their hands.

"That's really good. Has anyone here ever talked to a
ghostse?" 15 students raise their hands.

"That's great. Has anyone here ever touched a ghostse?" 3
students raise their hands.

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further... Have any of you ever made love to a ghostse?"
One student way in the back raises his hand.

The professor is astonished and says, "Son, in all the
years I've been giving this lecture, no one has ever
claimed to have slept with a ghostse. You've got to come
up here and tell us about your experience."

The redneck student replies with a nod and a grin, and
begins to make his way up to the podium. The professor
says, "Well, tell us what it's like to have sex with a
ghostse."

The student replies, "Ghostse?!? From ah-way back there ah
thought yuh said "goatse." [goatse.cx]

Re:Read The Story Guys (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268559)

ALL topics of discussion were trivial and uninteresting! And this was because they were invariably hand-chosen by autocratic, petty people with difficult-to-pronounce names! Dissenters who pointed out the weaknesses in the system were slapped down and rarely heard from again!
After a while, we WELCOMED THE REDUNDANCY!!! OH, THE HUMANITY!!!
Fortunately the system was eventually destroyed! Now Moscowdot is a paradise! Come as a touristroll, and bring your fat western walletkarma! There are no ex-KGB gangstertacos holding gunbitchslaps to my head forcing me to write this!
Also, tere ar no secret messages urking within this ost!

but... (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268333)

who's actually using IPv6? I know some use it privately within their org, but are there any publicly using it?

Re:but... (5, Informative)

BJH (11355) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268348)

The Japanese. Many Japanese ISPs will give you your own IPv6 subnet right now, for not very much money.

Re:but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268443)

Can you get one in the United States?

Re:but... (1)

BJH (11355) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268489)

No (not from the Japanese ISPs, anyway).

Or IPv6 Tunnel Broker (5, Informative)

fv (95460) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268534)

> Many Japanese ISPs will give you your own IPv6 subnet right now, for not very much money.

And even if your ISP won't assign you an IPv6 subnet, you can always utilize a free Tunnel Broker [tunnelbroker.net] to obtain a huge IPv6 address space of your very own (tunneled to your IPv4 IP). I used this recently when adding basic IPv6 support to the Nmap Security Scanner [insecure.org] . My announcement [insecure.org] also provides a concrete example of IPv6 being used to subvert firewall rulesets.

A ton of useful IPv6 information is available from Kame.Net [kame.net] -- once your setup is working, the turtle on the top of that page starts to dance :). I also found the Linux IPv6 HOWTO [tldp.org] to be incredibly helpful.

-Fyodor
Concerned about your network security? Try the Free Nmap Security Scanner [insecure.org]

Re:Or IPv6 Tunnel Broker (1)

Wesley Felter (138342) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268575)

Those manual tunnel brokers are obsolete; 6to4 is simpler and more efficient.

IPv6 info (5, Informative)

phreak03 (621876) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268379)

from ipv6.org IPv6 is short for "Internet Protocol Version 6". IPv6 is the "next generation" protocol designed by the IETF to replace the current version Internet Protocol, IP Version 4 ("IPv4"). Most of today's internet uses IPv4, which is now nearly twenty years old. IPv4 has been remarkably resilient in spite of its age, but it is beginning to have problems. Most importantly, there is a growing shortage of IPv4 addresses, which are needed by all new machines added to the Internet. IPv6 fixes a number of problems in IPv4, such as the limited number of available IPv4 addresses. It also adds many improvements to IPv4 in areas such as routing and network autoconfiguration. IPv6 is expected to gradually replace IPv4, with the two coexisting for a number of years during a transition period. It prevents spoofed UDP backets (no more easy, D.O.S attacks, and spoofted packets) It makes the amount of posible adresses so large that worms that use simple seek algotrithems (such as slammer) would take like 20 years to infect enough systems to do any damage and would allow for all the future embedded apps, to get their own ip's.

Re:IPv6 info (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268399)

Dear Lord,
Please guide this troll to +5 Informative.

Amen

Re:IPv6 info (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268420)

Nice karma whorin'. I particularly like the unattributed copy-and-paste straight from the horse's mouth [ipv6.org] .

You should really try turning your powers to trollin'. Slashdot needs more users with your skillz.

Re:IPv6 info (-1, Offtopic)

phreak03 (621876) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268459)

A bunch of schools run a internet2, system with a dedicated bandwidth allotment to ipv6, they use this for shareing of resoureses, testing out some cool streaming vid tech, and other stuff that needs dedicated bandwith that all the warez l33chers would shut down if they were allowed on that pipe. yah, yah i admit i was karma whoreing, but if you noticed the first 4 words of my post, i DID mention the source (sheesh, first is was not read teh story's now people don't even read the posts) and the last 1/3 of it was origional (or from my memory of other posts on the slammer worm. most people don't have a clue what IPv6 is for, or why we need it, so before all the stupid jokes came out i figured i'd try to get a early karma whore out, on why it rulz

Re:IPv6 info (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268516)

Unattributed?

"from ipv6.org"

Alright, it's not a footnoted citation, but what did you expect?

Re:IPv6 info (1)

brain159 (113897) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268518)

this is the style of "unattributed" where he starts off by saying "from ipv6.org..."?

Re:but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268514)

$ nslookup -q=AAAA www.v6pc.jp

Non-authoritative answer:
www.v6pc.jp IPv6 address = 2001:218:1f02::11

i even get a "You are using IPv6" banner on the top of the page

Re:but... (1)

redcliffe (466773) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268594)

Yep. I'm using it.

Re:but... (4, Informative)

grid geek (532440) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268618)

Some of the UK academic network [ukerna.ac.uk] has started an experimental IPv6 network [ja.net] for researchers to play with.

How about one that creates the slightest interest (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268334)

In big corp/gov users to move to IPv6

holocaust (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268337)

suck me granny

e=mc^2

Well i didnt know that 10k was (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268338)

incentive enough i thought it was 200k

My idea... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268345)

An IPv6 application competition, with a $5,000 prize! That should help promote IPv6, no?

More of everything (3, Funny)

plierhead (570797) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268350)

My suggestions...

.. would be just MORE of everything. Like:

- increased timewasting at the office due to faster, clearer, saucier porn downloads

- even greater levels of theft and destruction of the capitalist system as we know it by illegal music sharing

- yet more time spent deleting bucketloads of crap from our inboxes as spam increases to unprecedented levels

Yeah, its pretty revolutionary stuff all right.

27th post!!!!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268351)

LOLZ i posted good today yeah bitches!

Obligatory joke (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268359)

Grogan enabled router with lucky supersmart happy packets.

In Soviet Russia, IPV6 CONTROLS You! tsarkon (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268365)

In Soviet Russia, IPV6 CONTROLS You!

Re:In Soviet Russia, IPV6 CONTROLS You! tsarkon (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268377)

you sir, are so faggot!

Re:In Soviet Russia, IPV6 CONTROLS You! tsarkon (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268405)

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I like to pick me bum like 'twas me nose. (-1)

GhostseTroll (582659) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268368)

A blonde walks into a penis...

Anybody wanna... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268370)

post this at openchallenge.org and split the $$$ with the developer???

Re:Anybody wanna... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268432)

For a second there I thought you were offering to split $$$$$exyGal. Assuming s/he's into it.

For Idea Contest... (2, Informative)

robbyjo (315601) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268374)

Aren't there enough papers [nec.com] already on IPv6? Especially on purpose #1 (i.e. increasing the internet experience).

For #2 (i.e. promoting widespread), it's highly debatable, IMHO...

my idea (0, Funny)

Gizzmonic (412910) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268380)

An version of IP v6 stack that works in all those ancient Cisco routers, and replaces DNS! What do you think?

All packets are created equal (3, Funny)

dnoyeb (547705) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268381)

I will not support a protocol where all packets are not created equal. I wish to be treated with respect, not my game of quake slowed to a crawl because its deemed unessential. I fail to see the need.

although a bit more address space would do nicely...

Re:All packets are created equal (0)

alpha17 (90584) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268569)

Who deems the packets importance? the application or isp?

if it was application than wouldnt Games always make its packets highest priority?

I'm too lazy to read up on ipv6..

Re:All packets are created equal (3, Informative)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268638)

IPv4 already has a TOS field which specifies whether one wants to optimize for latency, bandwidth, both, or neither, and one can filter packets based on this with sufficiently advanced rules processing. (Linux has this, of course. I've never done it with anything else but I assume most advanced packet filters have TOS matching.)

Re:All packets are created equal (5, Insightful)

gawk (23512) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268672)

Better quit using TCP, then ...
unless you (and your ISP) are manually setting all of your TOS bits to 0, that is.

Protocols are mechanism, not policy. The reason why you haven't complained as yet of your IPv4 traffic being "slowed to a crawl" is that TCP's QOS features (minimal though they are) are typically only used when needed and ignored otherwise.

I would rather have the possibility open to shape traffic, should I want to, than to pre-emptively close the door because others might use it in ways I disapprove of. There are plenty of legitimate uses for QOS besides pissing off gamers (though I consider that an important activity in its own right :) -- and if their games are bandwidth hogs, maybe widespread QOS will force game-designers to write more efficient protocols.

Re:All packets are created equal (1)

gawk (23512) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268699)

Whoops ... s/TCP/IPv4/g; TOS bits are in the IP header, not the TCP header. *bonk*

Time for my fifth time through Stevens in as many years... :)

I have this idea... (4, Funny)

Hugonz (20064) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268387)

You know...I have this idea for IPV6...you set up a server, then write a client...people register whatever songs they have in MP3...then...oh, nevermind.

Re:I have this idea... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268666)

It depends on the judge, but note rule #5
"Please submit entries after ensuring that the submission does not invade any copyrights or related rights of others. When copyrighted or related rights materials, such as art, motion picture, photography or music are used, please ensure approval from the rights holders before applying. If an invasion of rights or compensation for loss is insisted by a third party, the applicant must take full responsibility and handle the issue. The contest host will not be held responsible for such issues" -- From the Rules for Application page.

You might get away with the submission, but it is agains the rules. Keep in mind who is sponsoring this thing (a bunch of corporations) and the care against violating copyrights is probably "better safe than sorry".

Woohoo! (4, Funny)

Duncan3 (10537) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268393)

$10,000 for recompiling with -lipv6 and changing some u32's to u128's in the structs... oh yea.

For high level languages like Python, I imagine all the work has been done for me already.

exchange rates... (2, Funny)

Lord_Slepnir (585350) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268395)

Award for Planning: 5 works, 50,000 yen each

So that's like what, 50 bucks total?

Re:exchange rates... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268457)

$US400 each, you feckless moron.

Re:exchange rates... (2, Informative)

Nexx (75873) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268474)

closer to $400.

Why /. doesn't allow me to reply a quick one-liner is beyond me. *sigh* :P

My contest (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268397)

I'll offer twice that much to the first IPv6/IPv4 based application for automating troll posts to slashdot! That libtroll post was lying! I was so bummed!

slashdot is so forward-thinking and hip, now, happening, that I just know it'll be a major IPv6 player! And we'll all need better trolling tools to keep up! Because, dammit, trolling is HARD WORK. It's like, geez, I don't know, rowing some damn wooden boat on rough seas towing a 300lb test line with some gullible luser attached to the other end! Well, no, that would be harder.

But only a little!

Figures are off (5, Informative)

Niadh (468443) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268401)

Grand Prize is 1,000,000 yen... thats 8,306.775 USD not $10,000.

Award for Promotion 5 works 150,000 yen each (1,246.03 USD)
Award for Planning 5 works 50,000 yen each (415.332 USD)

Grand Prix 1 work 1,000,000 yen (8,306.775 USD)
Award for Excellence a few works Total 1,000,000 yen
Award for Fine Works a few works Total 500,000 yen (4,153.15 USD)

So they are paying people to port applications to IPv6 now? hmp.. I would have thought that the ISP's and telicos would have ported to it automaticly when Internet IP's started to dry up.

Re:Figures are off (1)

zedge (133214) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268433)

I just checked 2003.02.10 04:22:21 GMT and 1,000,000.00 Japan Yen = 8,305.604 USD so the prize seems to be decreasing as we discuss it.

Re:Figures are off (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268532)

I think its already starting to happen. A few weeks ago I was going to do some online gaming with a friend of mine, but it wouldn't work because, as we discovered, his ISP had given him a 10.x.x.x IP. And I was behind my NAT router, so neither one of us could conect to each other. So forgive me when I say that its about time IPv6 came about.

Just be patient... (1)

TopShelf (92521) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268700)

If you look here [yahoo.com] , you'll see that the yen's gained about 10% over the last year. Unless our economy picks up soon, the prize will grow further!

1st IPv6 based worm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268407)

And OMG, it would just keep on finding hosts forever.. and ever and ever... and ever. .and ever.. it would never work

IPv6 (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268408)

I'll use it as soon as it works on platforms other than the VAX.

Re:IPv6 (1)

LogicFlow (643300) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268490)

Like Net/Open/FreeBSD, Linux kernel and by extention most distros that throw in IPv6 apps, Windows, and all the hardware they support? Hell, probably MacOS too.

I'll shoot myself the day a troll bothers to log in.

Sponsors (5, Informative)

BJH (11355) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268409)

Take a look at the sponsor list:

NTT Communications Corporation
A subcompany of the NTT group; the country's largest ISP.

Fujitsu Limited
One of Japan's largest manufacturers of PCs and servers.

Impress Corporation /. users should know this one - it runs the Akiba PC Watch site.

Internet Research Institute, Inc.
A company founded to take advantage of academic research. Funded by Yahoo Japan/Softbank (Softbank's one of Japan's largest Internet-related companies, and actually runs Yahoo Japan).

KDDI CORPORATION
Japan's #2 phone company after NTT.

Matsushita Electric Works, Ltd.
Japan's largest manufacturer of electronic goods.

Nokia-Japan Co., Ltd.
Need I say more?

Mitsubishi Research Institute, Inc.
The Mitsubishi group's research organization.

The reason Japan's so hot for IPv6 is that it got rather shortchanged in the IPv4 handout - the ratio of IPv4 addresses to users is much worse than in the US.

Re:Sponsors (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268535)

the ratio of IPv4 addresses to users is much worse than in the US.

What is the ratio in the US? What is the ratio in Japan? The suspense is killing me.

Re:Sponsors (5, Informative)

BJH (11355) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268619)

Well, based on the ARIN stats [arin.net] and APNIC stats [apnic.net] that are made available to the public...

IP addresses (US): 1,847,483,219
IP addresses (Japan): 41,943,663
IP addresses (Canada): 61,747,968

The number of users is debatable, but make it, say, around 30% of the population of each country.

Users (US): 250 million x 0.2 = 50,000,000
Users (Japan): 120 million x 0.2 = 24,000,000
Users (Canada): 30 million x 0.2 = 6,000,000

Which means the ratio of IP addresses to population is:

US: 36.95 IPs/person
Japan: 2.573 IPs/person
Canada: 10.29 IPs/person

So, as you can see, Japan's getting a little desparate... hell, even Canada has five times more IPv4 addresses per user.

Re:Sponsors (1)

BJH (11355) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268632)

Urgh... of course, that should have said 20% of the population.

Re:Sponsors (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268648)

Which means the ratio of IP addresses to population is:

US: 36.95 IPs/person
Japan: 2.573 IPs/person
Canada: 10.29 IPs/person

So, as you can see, Japan's getting a little desparate... hell, even Canada has five times more IPv4 addresses per user.

Clearly, we should BLAME CANADA! BLAME CANADA!

Otoh... (1)

autopr0n (534291) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268727)

If you figure the market is 80% of the population, which is probably a lot closer, especially for Japan, then you end up with less then 1 IP per user.

Obviously, a huge problem.

Re:Sponsors (1)

puto (533470) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268647)

NTT shortchanged? Not really, they bought Verio for the marketshare in the US and the some 60 odd other countries that have Verio offices.

Each office that Verio had was done through a buy out. So Verio has an immense amount of IPv4 adresses. Hence NTT has them.

NTT is just being smart, thats all.

Puto

Re:Sponsors (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268650)

You do realise that NTT can't just shift those blocks of IP addresses between countries, don't you?

What's the point? (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268413)

IPv6 was stillborn 5+ years ago

PRIVATE PILE! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268423)

THIS IS MY RIFLE. There are many like it, but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I master my life.

My rifle, without me is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will....

My rifle and myself know that what counts in this war is not the rounds we fire, the noise of our burst, nor the smoke we make. We know that it is the hits that count.

We will hit...

My rifle is human, even as I, because it is my life. Thus I will learn it as a brother. I will learn its weakness, its strength, its parts, its accessories, its sights, and its barrel. I will ever guard it against the ravages of weather and damage. I will keep my rifle clean and ready, even as I am clean and ready. We will become part of each other. We will...

Before God I swear this creed. My rifle and myself are the defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life.

So be it, until there is no enemy, but Peace!

THE CREED OF THE U.S.M.C.

Re:PRIVATE PILE! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268482)

The USMC - never has such a large collection of knuckledragging rednecks been collected together before. Truly, an organization that will go down in history (probably as "the group with the lowest average IQ").

Wait a second... (0)

ScriptGuru (574838) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268424)

I'm on IPv4, they want IPv6, what happened to IPv5!?!

Re:Wait a second... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268472)

It was an internal spec only, I believe, and never released as a standard.

Re:Wait a second... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268494)

Odd IPvx numbers won't sustain symmetrical transmit/receive, so naturally, they are skipped.

hmm (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268426)

hmmm

nostalgia (4, Funny)

God! Awful 2 (631283) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268441)

Sigh... remember when a good idea used to be worth $40 million?

-a

Re:nostalgia (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268504)

Remember when $40 mil used to be worth $40 mil?

-b

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Re:Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet! (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268529)

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Re:Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268640)

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My entry (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268500)

An application that keeps tabs on all information of everyone according to their unique IPv6 number, and then ranking them on an anti-american scale.

-John Ashcroft

Re:My entry (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268588)

Under the Patriot Act II, I could be hauled off in the middle of the night for saying something like that. This ain't your grandfather's America.
This is something else.

Heil the Homeland!

Great Idea! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268508)

1) IPV6 Application Implementation
2) ???
3) Profit!!

History of IPv6.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268519)


All about IPv6 and more [slashdot.org]

Is it only me or... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268531)

or do you see the /. links changing colors today as well ???

Or something in slashcode [slashcode.com] changing....

money savings (1)

adamruck (638131) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268523)

do they get the rights to anything submitted in the contest?

It seems like a good idea to me. Having a contest and offering a small lump sum is probably cheaper then hiring a whole bunch of developers to think up some applications. Not only will it get people to dream up ipv6 apps, but get more people to understand what its all about.

I must say that this seems to be a great idea on the ipv6 promotional councils part

Re:money savings (2, Interesting)

cervo (626632) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268685)

To answer your question on do they get the rights do anything submitted here is rule #7 from the rules page "The applicant will maintain all applicable intellectual, technology and design copyrights for the entries submitted to the contest, but the right for disclosure and distribution of entries submitted will belong to both the applicant and the contest host.".

It appears you get all the copyrights but they are allowed to disclose and distribute your product whatever that means. It could mean they can sell it or give it to whoever they want. The terms sound a bit iffy to me. Any lawyers out there want to offer up an interpretation?

Re:money savings (1)

jericho4.0 (565125) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268712)

I admit to sometimes posting without reading the article, but come on,man, you didn't even make it to the second sentence of the post.

Back on topic, I think offering contests to promote tech and keeping the rights is a great idea for buisness. Google does that with their contests.

RIAA may hate me for saying this.... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268551)


Imagine a world with IPv6 enabled devices.
Now when someone receives a subpoena from RIAA with the IP address, they can always reply back that there was a mistake because that IP address belongs to the microwave or the toilet bowl cleaner scheduler device..

what this contest proves (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268561)

A consortium of some 300 individuals and corporations interested in the promotion of IPv6 have to offer significant amounts of money just to generate interest in this new protocol. A decent Internet protocol should not be forced on the public cum pecunia; it should be developed openly and freely under the currently-existing RFC standards. If there were any real, useful applications of IPv6 to the whole world, then an open, free-entry consortium would be overseeing the transition from IPv4 to IPv6 now.

However, there is no desperate shortage of IP addresses under the current scheme. While there are less IPs than theoretically possible (256^4 = 4,294,967,296), thanks to overhead and mismanagement (MIT getting its own Class A subnet makes perfect sense...NOT), nevertheless there is no current need for this initiative.

The fact is, this contest is simply a ploy by these companies to get your intellectual capital at a fraction of its potential worth. Do the world a favor and make your ideas and code snippets public and free (or GPL'd). Death to corporate tyranny!

Re:what this contest proves (3, Informative)

Tailhook (98486) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268736)

The folks at the receiving end of customer demands solved the IP shortage issue years ago. They simply subnet the last octet. I personally think the IETF could better serve us all by revising some of the early "over" allocations of netblocks to institutions like MIT, but that runs counter to the IPv6 agenda.

The desire for point-to-point connectivity is nothing more than that; a desire. The real-world Internet doesn't really care all that much if it can't touch millions or billions of anonymous hosts behind NAT. The fact that it can't means, for example, that Slammer was only able to infect the routable hosts. Imagine the effects of something like Slammer if every single MS SQL server was actually routable from the public network. Yes, I know, NAT is not security. Until the IETF invents a way to force network operators to care enough about security to be worthy of allowing all their hosts to be routable, I'll remain pretty appreciative of the benefits of NAT in the real world.

Claims that IPv4 is inherently doomed due to the demands placed on routers I find difficult to believe. The size of the graph that is the Internet will not get smaller with IPv6. If IPv6 provides a more efficient means for "routers" to comprehend that graph, why can't that solution also apply to IPv4? Routers get faster right along side all other computing devices. Routers are also becoming a figment of the IETFs imagination. The old fashioned IP Internet is quickly being supplanted by ATM et al, and most of the "routing" is being done via virtual circuits between IP endpoints. IP "routing" is being relegated to the edges of the core.

The commercial world solved the IPv4 problem. IETF just doesn't care to notice.

Plagarize a submission (3, Funny)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268562)

I'd like to submit lain - just watched it last night and they clearly said that it was development of the sixth gen protocol that made the creation of lain possible.

For those who have no idea wth I am talking about, go an google, "serial experiment lain" then watch it. Some acid might make it clearer on your first viewing too.

No! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268576)

This is absolute rubbish, and a waste of money. I have nothing else to remark on the matter.

J. Koizumi.

How about... (1)

DanThe1Man (46872) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268586)

a way to actually put IP addresses on toasters.

How to get up and running (4, Informative)

tialaramex (61643) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268607)

If the upstream router from you (whether that's a $20k rack box from Cisco or some Pentium Linux box) has IPv6 connectivity then all you need to do on your hosts is turn on IPv6 and the rest happens automatically.

e.g RH Linux, set NETWORKING_IPV6=yes in /etc/sysconfig/network and restart networking

If you don't have upstream IPv6 then (1) Tell your provider that you think they should look into it sooner rather than later (2) round up the OS specific documentation for a technology called "6to4" tunnels.

A 6to4 tunnel can be created from any fully operational IPv4 host, even if it's a dialup link on some mom&pop ISP. Like the rest of IPv6 this is autoconfigured, you set a few options according to the documentation from your OS vendor and then it Just Works (TM).

If you have a typical small office/ geek house NAT setup with a single router & a lot of hosts spread around a building, the 6to4 tunnel will let you give all those hosts unique IPv6 addresses too, by assigning a /48 to each subnet in the building.

To check that it's working visit e.g. http://www.kame.net/ for visual confirmation. You may have to restart your browser if IPv6 wasn't installed when it was first started.

Re:How to get up and running (1)

tialaramex (61643) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268635)

"by assigning a /48 to each subnet in the building"

Doh! That really would be excessive. I meant to say that you'd assign a /64 to each subnet. Still sounds like a lot, but it's really not when you consider how IPv6 autoconfig works.

Re:How to get up and running (1)

Tailhook (98486) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268675)

So, if we go and get /64s, aren't we wasting vast amounts of the address space?

How about..... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268629)

.....I invent a website using IPv6 that won't get slashdotted?

Proposal (5, Funny)

BinBoy (164798) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268654)

I propose an IPv6 protocol app that allows you to browse other sites on the internet. Each site will store one or more files in a standard markup language. The app will download these files and render the text and images in a desktop window. The markup language should include links to other sites and files, creating a sort of "web." It could be useful for scientists who want to exchange research data.

Paging Linksys... (3, Interesting)

TheSHAD0W (258774) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268670)

We should push Linksys (and other cable/DSL router manufacturers) to write firmware capable of creating an IPv6 intranet, as opposed to the typical class C. Better still, I'm sure they could add support for something like TunnelBroker [tunnelbroker.net] (as mentioned above [slashdot.org] ) and map one's intranet into genuine IPv6 space. Yes, you could do the same thing with a 486 running BSD or Linux, but I think using a nice, small, energy-efficient box would be more elegant.

How about... (2, Funny)

jeeryg_flashaccess (456261) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268671)

...all porn stars get IPv6 addresses? Now THAT'S revolutionary!

Hmm, creative way to win... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268695)

Perhaps a creative way to win would be to develop the first IPv6 worm?

Welcome to the party pals...

Re:Hmm, creative way to win... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5268703)

Even if they accepted it, you would be leading government employees in suits with powerful sidearms to your doorstep by entering.

Hrm... (3, Insightful)

Myuu (529245) | more than 11 years ago | (#5268730)

/me starts thinking that the net will move to ip v6 about the same time the US moves to metric.
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