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Microsoft Switcher Ads: Part 2

pudge posted more than 11 years ago | from the i-vote-for-pathetic-flattery dept.

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burgburgburg writes "We all recall Microsoft's last attempt to emulate the Apple Switch ads. Well, it seems they're at it again. MacNN reports that Microsoft has sent out emails to those who have recently registered MS products, looking for candidates for their 'Sensible Solutions' campaign, which will 'highlight computer professionals that have recently converted from Apple Computer products to Microsoft based systems.' Do you qualify? You must be 'a US resident with a minimum of 3 years experience as a computer professional. You must have used an Apple Computer product and a Microsoft based system as part of your work'. So when does it just stop being the sincerest form of flattery and just become utter, pathetic laziness?"

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Fat Club (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300191)

The First Rule Of Fat Club Is ....

Re:Fat Club (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300246)

The first rule of fat club is that you don't eat the donuts!

Mac User (5, Funny)

AyeFly (242460) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300197)

I have been using computers since the late 80's. In fact, in the beginning we used AppleIIs, for artwork etc... now that im 17 years older, I have switched to Photoshop on a WinXP platform.

would that count O:-)

Re:Mac User (1)

AyeFly (242460) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300224)

--I especially like the drawing program we had in elementary school with the little turtle

Re:Mac User (-1)

caferace (442) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300232)

I'm sorry. You were using a Mac when you were 2 or 3 for artwork? Dang. Yeah, you'd be a good candidate.

Re:Mac User (0)

jericho4.0 (565125) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300258)

17 years older, not 17 years old.

Re:Mac User (2, Informative)

gh0ul (71352) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300240)

photoshop for OSX seems a lot more stable and less bloated on my mac then it does on my windows machine, (windows machine = 1ghz with 1gig of ram, mac = 500mhz with 768 of ram)

Re:Mac User (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300262)

I started off with a VIC 20 in 1984 when I was 7 years old. Then I moved to a DOS based 80286, 80386, 80486 in the late 80's (very earliest 90's) running DOS.

In the late 90's I went to an AMD K5, then K6-2 running DOS and eventually Windows 3.11. In about 1998, I finally gave Windows 95, then 98 a shot.

Currently, I have four various Sparcs running Solaris 2.5, 2.6, 2.8 and 2.9, two machines running win2k, a laptop running win98, two servers running Debian/testing, one machine running slackware and another running RedHat (ugh).

Finally, I have recently purchased a top-end powerbook and TONS of kick ass Apple hardware/toys. I'm totally pleased with OS X. I love this beeyatch. It goes against a lot of what I always believed about Apple/Macs (having had only the 1980's mid 1990's experience with them at all and not realizing how cool OSX with BSD was).

With all these machines, my PowerBook is the most fun and easiest to use. I may be a hard-ass long-time geek, but that doesn't mean I want to screw with my sound card for a week and spend 4 days configuring my VPN connection. With Apple, SHIT JUST WORKS. And that gives me more time to geek-out on more important things, like writing code.

More requirements (5, Funny)

yuckf00 (644870) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300199)

You must also have a picture on a photo library CD.

Like (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300201)

It like.. evaporated! Like.. All gone.. Like. But Windows has a start button, though. Schweet.

When does it start being pathetic? (5, Funny)

Senjutsu (614542) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300206)

Right about ... now.

negroes (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300210)

Look, the fact of the matter is, no one likes a negro. Thank you.

Re:negroes (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300367)

Except for white women. You're welcome.

Hi, my name is Bob... (5, Funny)

Sp00nMan (199816) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300211)

I recently switched to Windows XP, because my Mac Powerbook is broken. So while I wait for that to get fixed, I borrowed a PC from work. I can't wait to get my Mac back.. oh wait, was I not supposed to say that? Do I still get paid?!

Re:Hi, my name is Bob... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300261)

This is NOT a test. This is real, so wake up and SHOUT AT THE TOP OF YOUR LUNGS!!

Bush did it. 911 was an inside job [sigacanada.com]

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http://www.lightscion.com/Sounds/g_b_ruppert.mp3

http://energycrisis.org/de/lecture.html

Maybe it just works (5, Interesting)

doomdog (541990) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300212)

Why insist on calling it laziness? Maybe the switcher ads just work -- and it's always good sense to copy what is known to work well...

If Microsoft knows the ads are working for Apple, they'd be stupid not to use them themselves....

Re:Maybe it just works (3, Interesting)

cposs (545553) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300254)

It may "just work" for Apple, but if microsoft does it too then it's dilution of message. Anyone who's seen an apple add will probably discount it instantly, unless Microsoft finds some really good stories. Copying a proven design works for products, and sometimes in advertising, but not for competing products.

Re:Maybe it just works (4, Insightful)

jericho4.0 (565125) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300265)

The switch adds work because the're true to how people (user types) feel about computers. I have a hard time imageining XP adds with the same appeal.

People _feel_ about their Macs.

Of course! (-1, Flamebait)

autopr0n (534291) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300320)

Apple is the only computer maker who makes people "_feel_"! For example, Apple users got to _feel_ constant crashes from a non-preemptive, non-protected-memory OS for decades. Mac users get to _feel_ slow ass machines!

Anyway, apple makes me _feel_ like throwing up. Those information-free switch ads do nothing but insult my intelligence (just like almost all of apple's marketing I've seen)

Maybe some people just want to have a computer that does what they want, and think *gasp* they might be better served by a PC.

Re:Of course! (4, Interesting)

jericho4.0 (565125) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300361)

Ok, I'll bite.
Yes. Macs are slow. The ads are meant to sell to user types. As far as crashing goes, yes they used to,or so I hear, but my G4 hasn't crashed in 8 months. Windows sucked just as bad back then too.

You (and this is assuming you have the brains to make an informed, bias free decision), have the right to choose what's right for you. My choice of what's right ranges from Blade servers to Intel/Linux to Onyx's but the Mac is my workstation, and it's staying.

One size does not fit all (5, Insightful)

kfg (145172) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300273)

Or at least, one size does not fit all *well.*

It's not at all unusual for an advertising stratagy that works for one company to fail miserably for another, even one the same line of business.

Avis was made a major player in the car rental business by their " We're number two, so we try harder" ads.

Hertz did not counter with a "We're number one, so we try harder" campaign. It wouldn't even have made sense.

In this case Apple is the smaller, "nicheier" and less obvious choice for most professionals. Apple users are also known for being devoted to the product line.

MS products are the "obvious" majority choice that even it's own users "love to hate."

The "switch" approach makes sense for Apple and just looks a bit pathetic on the side of an outfit that already has over 90% of the market rapped up.

Goliath trying to make himself out to be the underdog just isn't pretty.

KFG

Re:Maybe it just works (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300274)

Hmmm Microsoft Copy Apple? Nah... ;-)

Re:Maybe it just works (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300333)

"If Microsoft knows the ads are working for Apple, they'd be stupid not to use them themselves...."

True enough. MS took pretty much the same approach when it ripped off the Mac OS.

RPN Example (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300213)

sqr (3 * 5) =

7 keystrokes

RPN: 3 Enter 5 * sqr

5 keystrokes

Re:RPN Example (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300307)

sqr (3 * 5) =

WRONG!

The correct way is 3 * 5 sqr

4 keystrokes.


Godfuckit people, thats like saying 2 * 2 =

4 keystrokes

5 Enter 5 Enter 4 Enter 2 Enter * * * /

12 Keystrokes

So since Apple's market share is now below 3%... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300214)

Are they just being a utter, pathetic, lazy copy of Commodore?

When does the editorial bullshit stop and the reporting begin? Did Bill Gates rape you as a child or something?

Re:So since Apple's market share is now below 3%.. (5, Funny)

punkmanandy (592682) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300322)

well, if you were under 18 when Windows ME came out, then, yes, Gates did rape you as a child.

But, can Microsoft top THIS? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300217)

I was writing a paper, and it was, like, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep.

And then, like, half of my paper was gone.

And I was, like, heh. It devoured my paper.

It was a really good paper. And then I had to do it again and I had to do it fast so it wasn't as good.

It's kind of a bummer.

apple vs microsoft (3, Interesting)

gh0ul (71352) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300219)

Microsoft is basically afraid because Apple has openly admitted their old OS wasn't so great, and the new MacOS has everyone switching to a Mac.. I used to hate mac's but now I use one for every day tasks, even work.. Microsoft may try a switch campaign, and they will get people to do it.. but for every switch ad microsoft makes, 500 more people just bought a mac and ditched their old PC's which can't run XP.

Re:apple vs microsoft (2, Informative)

Turing Machine (144300) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300249)

Absolutely. OS X is wonderful. I never even considered owning a Mac before, but now I have an OS X machine right next to my Linux box and my (generally started only for games) Windows machine.

Re:apple vs microsoft (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300291)

Totally. I have been a windows user (occasionally) and a windows/mac *basher* very wholeheartedly. Especially bashing macs.

When my friend forced me to go to an Apple store and play with the newest full-power TiBook running OS X, my jaw dropped. A beautiful, slick, friendly GUI with a powerful BSD engine... If I want to just do shit, there is the slick GUI to baby me. If I want to pull up vi and edit some code or fire up telnet or ncFTP, I can do that. It's just completely bad ass that we have the best of both worlds like that.

I went from not even needing/wanting a new laptop to deciding to get the powerbook on the spot. I do not regret it for one single moment.

Everyone's switching! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300314)

LOL. Where did you read that? They can barely get Mac users to switch to OS-X, let alone grab a significant number of Windows users.

I got.. (0, Troll)

Sp00nMan (199816) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300222)

your "Sensible Solution" right here in my pants!

Re:I got.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300250)

It's the new Microsoft Windows Pocket PC!

Or tablet, if you have big pants.

Re:I got..Rebootable underwear. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300290)

"I got... your "Sensible Solution" right here in my pants!"

First time I ever seen a pair of pants, bluescreen before.

Ellen "MS" Feiss (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300226)

What Microsoft needs is an Ellen Feiss equivalent. How are they going to get her if they ask for 3 years experience as a computer professional?

Re:Ellen "MS" Feiss (1)

gh0ul (71352) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300264)

apple needs to get Tenacious D, Microsoft needs to get Bill Clinton and that guy from 7-11 down the street..

Re:Ellen "MS" Feiss (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300328)

It's all falling into place

Steven "dell dude" has had advance warning of the MS Switch ads, and decided to cook up a better reputation than Ellen, in the hope he can get on the Microsoft payroll!.

Now all he needs is a sex change and to look cute, I'm sure he'll get just as many geeks lusting after him

Admit it, Microsoft makes the best OS. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300227)

Whether it be 98, ME, or even Windows NT, they are all the most friendly, powerful, original, and easy to use OS's of all time. ..as for XP - that is by far the most advanced and secure OS ever developed.

I say good luck to Microsoft, and may George Bush and all americans be nuked out of existence by Osama and Suddam.

MICROSOFT ADS ON SLASHDOT (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300230)

Shut up you stupid wankers.

You lost the right to run these kinds of articles around the time you sold out to Microsoft.

And the MPAA. And ...

I actually met a reverse switcher today. (5, Interesting)

Hawthorne01 (575586) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300233)

Went to the local Apple store, and at the Genius Bar there was a man dejectedly putting a brand-new 15" TiBook back into his briefcase. The websites he visits are all optimized for Windows and the software he uses daily (he's a financial planner) comes in Windows-only (and yes, he tried Virtual PC, to no avail). He's selling his TiBook and going back to Windows. The lack of software I can almost understand, but companies that refuse to make their websites accessible and usable to anything other than WIndows IE are demonstrating either major ignorance on customer service, a blatant disregard for standards, or both.

Re:I actually met a reverse switcher today. (2, Interesting)

caferace (442) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300266)

The websites he visits are all optimized for Windows...

That's a nifty trick. FUD?

Re:I actually met a reverse switcher today. (1)

Hawthorne01 (575586) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300284)

His words, not mine. Although there certainly are some out there [uat.edu] .

Re:I actually met a reverse switcher today. (1)

eatdave13 (528393) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300319)

Looks fine on my Gentoo-1.4-rc2/Mozilla-1.2.1 box.

Stupid, but rendered properly at least.

Re:I actually met a reverse switcher today. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300347)

Click a link. Any link. On OS X with IE, Safari and Mozilla, I get squart.

Re:I actually met a reverse switcher today. (1)

tevman (613659) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300355)

ahhhhhh ... why did you send me to that horrible horrible site? ahhhhhh.... *whimper*

Re:I actually met a reverse switcher today. (1)

Malcontent (40834) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300356)

And they offer a major in Web site production!.

From their web site.

"The College of Technology Commerce offers a Bachelor of Science and an Associate of Science in Technology Commerce. Majors are E-Commerce Marketing, Entrepreneurship, Technology Management, and Web Site Production."

Yeah right.

Re:I actually met a reverse switcher today. (2, Informative)

myov (177946) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300349)

A few sites I use on a regular basis don't work with my preferred browsers (Safari and OmniWeb) . My online banking refuses to work with anything other than Netscape 4 (including Mac IE!). I can spoof as Windows IE for some sites, but with others (such as the banking site) I usually receive an error when I actually try to do something. Maybe they're trying to check for 128-bit security, but since my browser works on some of their pages (and it's a server side error when it does blow up), my browser is capable of handling their app.

There are many "webmasters" who develop on IE, serve the site with IIS, and either assume or don't know that there are browsers other than IE on windows.

I develop most of my sites using Omniweb (it has the best view source feature I've ever seen), but I test them against IE and Netscape whenever I make major changes. I also check my logs to see what browsers are actually being used (and I appear to be the only non-IE user)

Re:I actually met a reverse switcher today. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300269)

That's why I love my powerbook. I don't need to spend money on tons of software that is hard to find. I can just compile any of the unix software out there that I want to use. Why spent $190 on fucking BBEdit when I can just run vi, emacs, nano, pico, ae, vim or any number of other kick ass apps?

Re:I actually met a reverse switcher today. (1)

sonamchauhan (587356) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300278)

The websites he visits are all optimized for Windows

Just curious - won't IE on Apple's OS' suffice for him? Do the sites he uses embed ActiveX controls? Are there a lot of ActiveX controls that are available for Windows, but not on Apple's platforms?

Re:I actually met a reverse switcher today. (5, Insightful)

KiahZero (610862) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300281)

It's not so much blatent disregard of standards as believing that IE is the standard. Most people, if you point out that Mozilla or Opera or any other browser does not display a page properly, will ask what's wrong with the browser. After all, the browser that came with the system shows it just fine!

What I'd really like to know is why Microsoft even bothers to spend money on advertising for their OSs. Seriously... they have a monopoly in the desktop market that they've effectively leveraged to ensure that it stays that way for the foreseeable future. So long as all the applications that Joe Everyman needs to run, as well as all the games his kids want to play, are Windows only, what are the odds that he's going to switch to any other OS?

Re:I actually met a reverse switcher today. (5, Interesting)

Dominic_Mazzoni (125164) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300282)

The websites he visits are all optimized for Windows

This is going to change fast, thanks to Safari. Whenever a page looks incorrect or doesn't function in Safari, click the little bug icon in the upper-right corner, and it pops up a dialog where you can send feedback directly to Apple's Safari team. It can optionally include a screenshot of the page.

Trust me, if enough people report problems with the same site, Apple WILL figure out a way to fix it. Safari has already improved dramatically in the beta version from last month to the one released this week.

Anyway, I too have been frustrated by web pages that are optimized for Windows, but thanks to Safari, and also thanks to standards-compliant browsers like Mozilla/Netscape 7, things are finally starting to change.

Re:I actually met a reverse switcher today. (2, Insightful)

Buck2 (50253) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300300)

Does the dialog box also send a report to the relevant "bad-designer" party?

It appears to me that this method only addresses the symptoms.

Re:I actually met a reverse switcher today. (5, Funny)

Stu May (64028) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300318)

Trust me, if enough people report problems with the same site, Apple WILL figure out a way to fix it.

Am I the only one envisioning Apple doing a cost-benefit analysis of a code fix vs. sending hired goons to visit the offending website's developers?

Re:I actually met a reverse switcher today. (5, Insightful)

NewtonsLaw (409638) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300297)

but companies that refuse to make their websites accessible and usable to anything other than WIndows IE are demonstrating either major ignorance on customer service, a blatant disregard for standards, or both

The sad truth is that most companies don't design or implement their own websites -- they hire a web designer to do the job for them.

Unfortuantely, a growing number of web designers are incompetent and/or just plain lazy when it comes to building sites that work with browsers other than IE.

There is no excuse for building a site that won't at least provide basic navigation and information with even the simplest of browsers.

I get real ticked off when I keep having to turn Javascript back on just so I can see some "clever" designer's pull-down menus, or have to fire up IE because a site is MS-specific.

Even more annoying are those sites that use Active-X components so that if you're a *smart* websurfer who has disabled Active-X, you keep getting little dialog boxes and beeps advising you that the page may not display properly.

Then there's those sites built almost entirely from Flash. The worst of these even force you to have Javascript enabled before the Flash code will load as well.

Listen-up smarty-pants web designers. I don't want to be entertained, I don't want to be blown away by your fancy tricks -- I just want to be able to access the information and navigate without a whole lot of fuss, and without wearing the great big "kick me" sign that IE paints on your back when you're surfing unknown URLs.

Here is a start from myself (Bill Gates) (5, Funny)

Billly Gates (198444) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300234)

Look here! [macboy.com]

Oh shit I am suppose to say how I switched to XP. Uh, nevermind.

Re:Here is a start from myself (Bill Gates) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300317)

That was great :)
but the startup animation was stolen from pixar...

Re:Here is a start from myself (Bill Gates) (1)

eatdave13 (528393) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300353)

F'ing awesome! I laughed so hard I almost fell down. Somebody please mod this one up so the other sheeple know to check it out!

I thought about it... (-1, Flamebait)

Latrommi (615673) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300237)

I thought about switching a couple weeks ago, but since those darn PCs have so many buttons on their mice and don't come in pretty colors I just couldn't handle it. I'd much rather have something that looks good on my desk than have something thats actually useful.

Not a chance.... (4, Interesting)

jericho4.0 (565125) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300238)

I think there are lots of good reasons why proffesional types could choose Windows over Mac. Price/performance, availability of software, ease of interoperability, etc.

But the adds will never have the pure appeal of the Mac switch adds. "TCO amoritized over the year saved us $$" is not "bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep, gone!"

I have an expensive Mac. It strikes me as slow, sometimes. I get annoyed when software comes out for the PC first. But I'm not giving it up for anything.

Which is lamer... (5, Funny)

SchnauzerGuy (647948) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300239)

  • Microsoft, for seeking people who register Microsoft software for their "switcher" ads.
  • People who actually register Microsoft software.

Re:Which is lamer... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300352)

People who actually register Microsoft software

But don't you have to have your privacy violated^H^H register and activate Microsoft software before you can even use it these days?

Strategy... (1)

ath0mic (519762) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300243)

I suggest trying to find someone who is somewhat inebriated and/or high.

Switch? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300244)

When you control 95% of the OS and office-suite markets, who else do you have to convince?

The remaining fringe is going to avoid MS no matter what.

Are they just trying to save face against semi-influential Apple ads?

Re:Switch? (1)

interiot (50685) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300329)

Well, MS is looking for people who have been in the field for three years or more... so they're only going for the server market perhaps? Or developers developers developers?

Talk to Jobs. It's his fault. (-1, Flamebait)

Dolemite_the_Wiz (618862) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300252)

He's the one that set the course of Apple's history, in the days of Apple ][e, by not allowing any 3rd party developers to create technologies.

Macs aren't business systems and never will be.

Macs are strictly multimedia platforms.

By sticking with the focus of the Mac only on multimedia technologies, Jobs is once again sealing the fate of the Mac.

This time around, the fate may be a one way trip to the grave for Apple.

Dolemite

Re:Talk to Jobs. It's his fault. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300286)

>Macs are strictly multimedia platforms.

Bwahaha. Okay the irony in this statement alone is dumbfounding. Like, erm, yeah, and what the fuck do you call being able to listen to sound, see motion and click on different thingies? Audiomotorinalia?

These days, ~all computers~ are multimedia platforms.

That is of course, unless you're still using that old h4xx9r3d Amiga. Foo.

Re:Talk to Jobs. It's his fault. (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300293)

What "business" software do most people run that can't be run on a mac? Excel? Quickbooks? Quicken? Word? I mean I know people have personal preferences but honestly, I don't get it, whats so 'un business like' about a mac? Is it the fact that they don't look dull and boring like office supplies and cubicles?

Re:Talk to Jobs. It's his fault. (2, Interesting)

NetDrain (167337) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300308)

But honestly now, how many times has the death bell "tolled' for apple? Every other year, it seems. I remember a quote right after Jobs released the iMac, something to this effect: "The iMac may be doing well, but it's just a momentary rise in the otherwise downward trend of apple. They're doomed."

I wonder when people will realize that Apple is the only tech company in this time actually doing well and not drowning in red ink. Apple will never die as long as it it has its hardcore section of fans.

Hell, they control more market share than Subaru, and they've been around since at least the seventies. No one's saying they're going bankrupt.

Re:Talk to Jobs. It's his fault. (2, Interesting)

zapfie (560589) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300315)

Uh.. do a little research into a tiny thing called NeXTStep.. It was quite robust for development of serious business apps. You are, quite frankly, pulling comments out of your ass.

I'd like you to provide some examples of why Macs are unsuitable for business.

You are misinformed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300354)

Go take a look at what's available for Macs these days, and then try to tell me that a machine/OS that can run M$ Office (though I prefer OpenOffice, even on Windoze) PLUS a ton of GNU stuff PLUS -- if you really realy need it a whole fookin PC or two [connectix.com] .

I'm running Win2K Server (for SQL Server crap) and, just because I *can*: FreeBSD 5.0. Oh -- all at the same time.

I'm not one of those "creative" types, either -- I just wanted the best machine I could buy for getting stuff done, and after more than a decade of rolling my own PC hardware, I Switched(tm). Apple finally put something together that, taken as a whole, can't be matched on any other platform.

Sure... (5, Funny)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300253)

Depends how much MS will pay me.

I've got a PC with XP sitting here, right next to my TiBook, 17" iMac, CRT iMac, G3 Powerbook, OS X Servers...

I'm sensable, I use my PC for the same things my GameCube and PS2 are for...games.

Silly People (0)

fireklar (533430) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300255)

If they've copied everything else from Apple, why not copy their advertisements?

Mac - PC - Mac (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300259)

Well....I was using Mac and old Apple II for over 10 years and my current work is mostly on Windows platform. So I've been using PC's for 7 years now and I'm currently looking to go back to the mac.

So, what I'm wondering is....How much time will the switcher MS find will stay on MS platform?

Apple user are loyal users and I rarely found people moving to windows and staying there.
But, the other way around is also true.
So, I think it's really more a idea of being used to a platform....trying the other one and not finding what you are used to find...then moving back.

This is pretty sad (4, Insightful)

amigaluvr (644269) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300260)

I think this is sad on Microsofts part. Their copying apple with a succesful campaign but coming too late to the party. A lot of it is in the timing and I think Apple's switch has done all it can in mindshare

The biggest part of the apple campaign is that people have left the common world of windowsk, one that people dont think of leaving because they see nothing else but MS MS MS everywhere. Then to switch to Apple or indeed anything smaller is a big task and it can be seen as an active choice

For a switch to windows sounds like 'I used to use X but then I joined the herd' and gave in to peer pressure. Its hardly the same thing

note: the slashdot user 'danamania' is a transexual. beware

Re:This is pretty sad (4, Funny)

Malcontent (40834) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300337)

"Their copying apple with a succesful campaign but coming too late to the party. "

Don't you know the meaning of "innovation"? it means "we copy other peoples stuff and put our own name on it". MS has a right to "innovate" you know.

Re:This is pretty sad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300341)

"I'm an individual too, just like everyone else!".

I'm a switcher... (3, Funny)

NetDrain (167337) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300263)

So like, I had this Mac. But I started hanging with this "other" crowd, and they were all PC users, so like, I am too now. It's been good. But now I have leprosy. Is that supposed to come with WinXP? Is it a feature or something? My name's night, and I'm a bell-jingling diseased rodent. : D /my Karma has just committed suicide.

Hey Michael... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300270)

...YOU'RE A JERK!

Re:Hey Michael... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300362)

-1 Redundant ;)

When? A long, long time ago. (1)

Shinzaburo (416221) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300275)

When does it just stop being the sincerest form of flattery and just become utter, pathetic laziness? A long, long time ago. You would think a company that has roundly trounced their chief rival wouldn't need to keep pursuing the same simian mimicry strategy over and over again. Isn't market share in excess of 90% about the time that blatant rip-offs are no longer necessary? It's amazing that the paranoia that has allowed Microsoft to succeed has become so ingrained as to be utilized in an effort to stave off a competitor with what... 3% global market share? Pathetic was indeed the right word to describe this shameless copycat behavior.
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making copycat switcher ads . . . . (1)

kraksmoka (561333) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300279)

sure seems to beat the pants off of making stable, transparent, lean software that only does what the computer user asks it to do.

i mean, how else can you show off all the money you have, but by using lots of expensive stock photography from the photo library you absorbed.

is it just me, or is m$ just like Cartman's Trapper Keeper?? windows, combine with crappy media player, windows insorping . . . . . .

yes, this is what happens when you post at 3 am after you came home from a bar.

I switched (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300280)

From an Apple 2 to a C64 and then to a PC have been using various flavors of Windows since then, then came XP and the day my machine locked me out because I switched too many hardware components I had to call Microsoft to justify what I have done to my computer because their software locked me out was the day I bought a SuSE box. Does that count, I switched from Apple to Microsoft and then away.

Cynical Reply (5, Funny)

LongJohnStewartMill (645597) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300292)

They'll probably get some confession like,
"Well, I've been using a Macintosh Plus for about 17 years now, and I decided it was high time I got an upgrade. One meg of RAM can only take you so far..."

Switcher's Story Grammar File (4, Funny)

robbyjo (315601) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300299)

I found out that the switcher's story is recursively enumerable. Below is the grammar. Feel free to use this for your application essay.

Hi, my name is <IDENTIFIER>. I am (a|an) <IDENTIFIER> [from <IDENTIFIER>].

I used (Apple|Macintosh) version <FLOAT_LITERAL> for <INTEGER_LITERAL> (years|months) doing (documents | spreadsheets | databases | video editing | MP3 listening | surfing the net | <OTHER_FUN_JOBS>)+. It was all (fun | very nice | pleasant experience) at the beginning.

But, later on I discovered that (it has only one mouse button | some software I bought wasn't supported | their hardwares are so expensive | <REASON_WHY_IT_SUCKS>)+. Since I was only (a yet another broke graduate students | an unemployed bum | a clueless luser | <REASON_WHY_I_SUCKS>)+, I found out that their solution is [completely | absolutely] unviable.

(Enter | Here comes) Microsoft. They provide me (MS Office | MS Windows | <OTHER_MS_SOFTWARE>)+. It is really (a panacea | working like magic | <REASON_WHY_ITS_GREAT>)+. Now I can (surfing a lot faster | do my spreadsheet even better | <OTHER_PRAISES>)+. Even more, I can get added bonus, like (the great blue screen | DRM constricted media player | compulsory activation | <OTHER_STUFF>)+, which makes my computer eXPerience even better.

Now that I switched. How about you?

so, they are looking for... (1)

bob@dB.org (89920) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300306)

someone that has used a mac for at least 3 years, then switched to windows, and has something nice to say about microsoft products!

they will have to send a whole lot of mail to reach one of those 3!

Lazyness? (-1, Troll)

autopr0n (534291) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300310)

Yeah, god forbid Microsoft should actually defend themselves using the same medium, I mean, that's just pathetic laziness.

But we all knew that, Apple is the most innovative company in the world! All their products are amazing, and far more powerful then PCs with several times the core clock! Anything any-bit like apple is simply derivative.

It's the notebooks (1)

hikousen (636819) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300311)

It's because nobody else but Apple can make anything as cool as this [apple.com] .

Apple leads. Anyone else watch the Macworld 2003 speech? Notebooks, Safari, Keynote, Firewire 800, etc. Sheesh.

(And I don't even use a Mac.)

Switch me -- harder ! (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300316)

Dear Apple,

I am a homosexual. I bought an Apple computer because of its well earned reputation for being "the" gay computer. Since I have become an Apple owner, I have been exposed to a whole new world of gay friends. It is really a pleasure to meet and compute with other homos such as myself. I plan on using my new Apple computer as a way to entice and recruit young schoolboys into the homosexual lifestyle; it would be so helpful if you could produce more software which would appeal to young boys. Thanks in advance.

with much gayness,

Father Randy "Pudge" O'Day, S.J.

Re:Switch me -- harder ! (2, Funny)

cpsc2005 (629087) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300338)

Please come back to the Windows side.
The new Luna skin is just as colorful, and our new MSN 8 is even better.

It's better with the Butterfly!

with more gayness,

Bill Gayes
CEO, Microsoft.

Self-defeating (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300323)

They're only admitting how hard it is to find professionals who switch platforms by having to resort to mail-outs.

Apple responds ... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300324)

Dear Father O'Day:

Thanks for your letter. Being Catholic myself, I know exactly what you're talking about! It has always been our plan here at Apple Computer Inc to revolutionize personal computing with our high-quality and highly gay products.

I'm happy to answer your letter by letting you know that YES we will be releasing an entire hLife ("homo-life") software line. You'll be able to recognize it in stores by the small stylized logo depicting a large cock entering a tight anus with an Apple logo on it. ("Suddenly it all comes together" indeed!).

Anyway, I hope you and other members of our community will join us on our mission, and purchase the exciting new hLife boxed set. Only the boxed set comes with translucent cock rings!

Sincerely,

Harry Rodman
Vice-president
Homosexual Liaison Services
Apple Computer, Inc.

I made the switch. (5, Funny)

mikeophile (647318) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300326)

I'm a computer tech for a large office.

When we were using Apple computers, my job was in serious danger of being downsized. They were easy to use and almost never crashed.

Fortunately, due to Microsoft license incentives, my company switched to PC's running Windows.

What a relief! The stress I was suffering over job security is gone! In fact, I just got a fat raise because the bosses have seen how hard I've been working.

Sure, I'm busier now, and I may not have the spare time to check Slashdot incessantly, but that's why they call it work, right?

Switch Ads (for Linux) (0, Flamebait)

DraconPern (521756) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300332)

Macs are for technically-challenged,
and Windows is for computer professionals.

So, why not have Switch Ads for Linux?

Here's some ideas.

'Linux is for system administrators'
'My server wasn't secure until I installed Linux'
'I didn't realize how powerful my computer was until I switched to Linux'

Re:Switch Ads (for Linux) (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300342)

This is NOT a test. This is real, so wake up and SHOUT AT THE TOP OF YOUR LUNGS!!

Bush did it. 911 was an inside job. [sigacanada.com]

http://www.copvcia.com/

http://www.lightscion.com/Sounds/g_b_ruppert.mp3

http://energycrisis.org/de/lecture.html

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/Lyn n0 12303/lynn012303.html

Re:Switch Ads (for Linux) (1)

Shippy (123643) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300357)

This is actually already being done (in a way). You're not going to see someone come out and say 'Hi, I'm the spokesperson for Linux. Switch' or whatever. Instead, you see companies like IBM coming and doing commercials about their 'IBM Servers' that happen to run Linux. If RedHat had the money to do a national commercial campaign, I'm sure they'd come out with a campaign, too. There's competition within the Linux field as well with different distros. RedHat may try someday to get people to switch from Windows or Mac using commercials, but I also see them trying to get people to switch from IBM or another server-level Linux OS. They'll claim that theirs is easier to use, more secure, better support, etc. compared to the "other Linux".

It isn't worth it?!? (3, Insightful)

vandel405 (609163) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300339)

Apple, is advertising to 95% of the market. They have a large domain of possible targets. Microsoft would be targeting 3% of the market. It would seem much too small to be worth the effort.

If MicroSoft played the AD on TV, say 1 million Apple users will see it. When Apple plays the same style add, and PAYS the SAME amount, 95 million people see it.

This seems like a good way for microsoft to waste its cash. GO FOR IT!

Best of both worlds (3, Interesting)

thryllkill (52874) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300351)

I currently have two operating computers. My desktop system is a painfully old PIII 800Mz running Win2k(it duel boots to SuSE 8 when I want to dabble and learn). But my laptop is an iBook 700mhz, and I love it.

My reasons are: PIII)Want games, want to add hardware when I want from just about whatever source I want. The PIII is mostly a frankenstein of parts either bought or traded from friends. Unfortunatly I could not do this with a Mac.

But...

iBook) Want small, only 12.1 inch screen, the thing is tiny, fits in my backpack no prob. My friend's dell required him to buy a new "laptop" backpack. Want tough, magnesium caseing, rubber mounted hard drive, the thing is like a small tank in the laptop world. Want Unix, without all the trouble linux causes in laptops. Yeah I know it is very possible to have a very workable linux laptop, but I don't think it is possible to have a very workable linux laptop that works out the box, and I can send back to the company when the DVD-CDRW drive goes kaput.

Would I own a Mac desktop, at the moment, hell no! They would need to be more competative in both the speed and the price arenas for me to even consider it.

But my point is this, there are people out there who have weighed the differences and made the choice of both. OSX is easy, and fast, and pretty. Win2K (sorry don't know about XP) is where most of my professional experience lays so troubleshooting it easy, and it plays games, and it was hella cheap ($50 OEM version when I bought my HDD).

I'm glad I didn't buy another Mac (1)

Stu May (64028) | more than 11 years ago | (#5300359)

The thought of another Microsoft switch campaign strikes me funny, as I spent a good portion of my day trying to get XP to stop crashing every 5 minutes or so. I'm so very happy that I didn't spend the extra money and buy another Mac. *sigh*

duh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5300365)

and it was like expensive hardware and all coloured and stuff and i was like duh so i bought a PC and it's like way cooler cuz it dumps physical memory all the time and i thought thats cool and stuff but all my friends were like who cares which monopoly you give the money too when you just send like email and some AIM messages and i was like duh as if i could use an old dumb pengiun computer like my brother my friends might think im like a nerd or something /roll eyes
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