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"Clone Wars" Cartoon Shorts on Cartoon Network

CmdrTaco posted more than 11 years ago | from the well-isn't-that-interesting dept.

Star Wars Prequels 233

snilloc writes "Starwars.com announces that Cartoon Network will carry "Star Wars: Clone Wars" cartoon shorts in order to bridge the gap between Episodes 2 and 3. I guess this means we won't be seeing the Clone Wars in Ep3, as many of us had hoped. On the bright side, we get our SW fix in twenty 2-3 minute shorts. We can only hope against hope that they won't suck."

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What a friggin rip!!!! (1)

s88 (255181) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360643)

I have been waiting for the Clone wars since ep I came out. I kept tellin myself...well it must be in the next one. I should have known.

Re:What a friggin rip!!!! (1)

SystematicPsycho (456042) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360781)

This guy (George Lucas) doesn't listen to anyone anymore. I remember in an interview, he said that in 4,5 & 6 since it was the studios money he had to do what the studio told him - and he didn't like it because he never got to shoot it the way he wanted. I think it is safe to say now - that was done for a good damn reason. Since it's his money in the first 3 he's been listening to no-one and is quiclkly sinking. He might as well b0rk ep3 real quick and get it over with.

Hope... (1)

Visaris (553352) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360645)

We can only hope against hope that they won't suck.

That's what I'm thinking... They never seem to get these kind of things quite right...

Re:Hope... (1)

whereiswaldo (459052) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360745)

If the producers of the last two movies are listening: NO MORE CG & NO MORE WELL-KNOWN ACTORS!

Using CG and popular actors are the two biggest flaws of the last two films. Stop-motion photography was much more convincing because you can't fake all the subtleties of real life that make it real.
It's hard to believe a movie in another place and time when you have all these well-known actors and actresses in the movies. Get rid of them! You don't see David Hasselhoff in the Lord of the Rings, do you? Sheesh.

Re:Hope... (1)

nomadic (141991) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360779)

LotR used a CG actor quite skillfully.

But I agree with you regarding the well-known actors part; better to go with respected actors who aren't well-known to the general public.

Re:Hope... (1)

Grieveq (589084) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360832)

LotR used two well known actors and they both did a marvelous job. It wasn't the well known actors or CG that fucked up Episodes I and II.

cop out (5, Insightful)

madhippy (525384) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360647)

sounds like they didn't get enough of the story told in ep1 and ep2, with ep4 a known entity they were either going to have a really long and sprawling ep3 or miss a huge amount of what happened between ep2 and ep3 or ep3 and ep4....

Re:cop out (1)

Drakin (415182) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360796)

Well duh. There's going to be a fair chunk of time between Ep3 and Ep4... think about it... probably oooh... 20 years if the rumor about Luke and Leia being born in Ep3 is true.

*snorts* Not much should happen that you can't guess though... Empire grips the galaxy, people are turned agsint the Jedi, Jedi are killed, the independant rebel groups start, the Corellian Treaty is signed, creating the Alliance to Restore the Republic...

It's a dark time, and one that when you think of it'd make a rather dull movie... they're probably going to end Ep3 with a feeling of knowing what will happen in the span between the movies, without going into details.

this story stinks geekyness (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5360650)

I guess this means you won't be seeing outside your mom basement any time soon.

Cartoons????? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5360654)

They expect some kids' show to "fill in the gap" between episodes 2 and 3??

I think that the audiance for star wars is much, much greater than the audiance for a cartoon.

Re:Cartoons????? (2, Insightful)

SystematicPsycho (456042) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360751)

This is about reaching a _new audience, since most of the old audience have given up on Star Wars anyway, like me.

Re:Cartoons????? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5360834)

You spend an awful lot of time on slashdot for you to be from the 'old audience!' Nuff said

This is horribly stupid (5, Interesting)

kaltkalt (620110) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360657)

99% of people (or even Star Wars fans) are not going to watch the cartoon network to see 2-3 minute cartoons which are apparently necessary for Episode III to make sense. Yes, I'm sure that Lucas will stick all the cartoons on a $24 DVD for sale a week or so before Ep3 comes out, but that aside, this is simply idiotic. If he doesn't want to film the clone wars, or other necessary plot devices, that's fine (a shame, but fine) - just allude to them in the movie. Have a character talk about it and fill us in. But 2-3 minute cartoons on an obscure cable channel? What is Lucas smoking?

Re:This is horribly stupid (2, Insightful)

MoTec (23112) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360690)

Nonsence, I'm sure Lucas will simply do both. In III he'll still allude to the events that happen in this micro-series. This just gives him an opportunity to milk a bit more from the cash cow that is StarWars.

Re:This is horribly stupid (1)

kaltkalt (620110) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360810)

How many commercials can you stick in a 2-3 minute cartoon? Not too many. And commercials on the cartoon network don't generate tons of money anyway. The viewership (even with necessary star wars plot info being doled out) is not that large. Were they half-hour cartoons, I'd probably agree with you.

Re:This is horribly stupid (2, Insightful)

los furtive (232491) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360995)

How many commercials can you stick in a 2-3 minute cartoon?

The answer is anywhere from 3 to 6. I will use Hockey Night in Canada's Coach's Corner as an example:

  • Commericals 1 and 2: At end of first period, anouncer says: stay tuned for Coach's Corner. Then they play one or two commercials.
  • Commercial 3: Intro/theme to Coach's Corner is played, and they will announce that Coach's Corner is brought to you by Ford of Canada.
  • Commercials 4 and 5: After the theme, one or two more commercials are played before we actually get to the Coach's Corner segment.
  • Commercial 6: At the end of the segment, theme music is played again and at the end Ford of Canada get's its logo printed on the screen.

Actually, even after the closing theme and display of Ford logo, they show a (you guessed it) Ford commercial, so you could count that as a seventh commercial, but if you're like me by then you've already changed the channel. It's not much of a stretch to apply the same methodology to a 3 minute cartoon.

Re:This is horribly stupid (1)

Reverberant (303566) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360699)

What's to say that he can't do both?

The cartoons could be there for the hard-core fans to view, and EPIII can still include references to those events. People who don't watch the cartoon won't miss anything, and those who watch the cartoon get a little bonus.

Re:Obscure??? (5, Insightful)

JaxGator75 (650577) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360722)

I would hardly call Cartoon Network obscure. Everyone with basic cable has heard of them, and those of us with non-food-stamp cable get it without exception. . . I still can't believe that people are continued to be shocked and appalled by Lucas' next moves. He's gonna do what he wants with his legacy, and we're stuck with the choice of watching or ignoring. My PERSONAL philosophy is that it's pretty cool if you don't try to take it so very literally (and dissect it with an electron microscope). E.G. Go get Ep 1 and Ep2, smoke a HUGE fatty and tell me it wasn't cool... They have LIGHTSABERS! C'mon. . . (PS - I'm an adult, not a 12-yr-old fanboy)

Re:Obscure??? (1)

kaltkalt (620110) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360798)

Yes, to put something as important as necessary plot information to the Star Wars franchise (not just to the next movie) on anything but primetime, network television (after "Friends" or something) is per se obscure. I would argue that even putting it on NBC right after "Friends" is still not good enough.

We have another choice aside from "watching" or "ignoring." We can complain and make our voices heard. I hope you don't feel the same way about copyright issues (e.g. cave in to the RIAA/MPAA or just ignore them).

Re:Obscure??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5360961)

It's Lucas' vision and art, we have no right to tell the bastard how to go about showing it to people.

No matter how much you complain your voice won't be heard. This is America we're talking about. If your voice is heard, the words you say will be crushed under a sea of moronic wails.

Re:This is horribly stupid (1)

SystematicPsycho (456042) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360765)

Maybe filming it in a cartoon will cut down on the super-special effects budget that it would take to film the "clone wars"? Also, it will cash in on a new generation of Star Wars fans and maybe try to do something new to generate interest in Star Wars again? (as I have lost the faith too)

It's all about the MERCHANDISING. (1)

patrixmyth (167599) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360799)

A huge amount of profits from the original trilogy came from product tie-ins, action figures, toys and clothing. Other than a few light-sabers, the newest series hasn't generated the same merchandising. I remember even in the first giddy rush of optimism for ep. 1, finding star wars stuff on the clearance rack.

These cartoons are intended to turn that around, and catch the attention of kids, who frankly think of star wars as their parent's creepy idea of fun, and could care less. Once that fails (miserably), I suspect they will miraculously decide to "restore" the clone wars to Ep. 3, due to overwhelming fan demands, to which I respond... whatever!!!!

At this point, I'd rather see a good Stargate (best movie to show adaptation ever!) or Bladerunner sequel, and finally put Star Wars and Star Trek, out of my misery.

Re:This is horribly stupid (1)

cvd6262 (180823) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360873)

If he doesn't want to film the clone wars, or other necessary plot devices, that's fine (a shame, but fine) - just allude to them in the movie.

You hit on an interesting point:

Why were the first Star Wars movies so cool? I'll give you a hint: It also has to do with the attraction of Dune, Harry Potter, and Lord of the Rings.

All of these franchises have stories that begin long before we are first introduced to them. Part of their allure is that the reader/viewer is discovering things along the way.

Forgive my including this in with the others, but "Sweet Home Alabama" drew much on this same principle. The whole story was made possible by choices the main character had made years before the "story" began. And the viewers were left to discover it, just like the love interest of the film.

Now with the Star Wars prequels, we are no longer guessing or inferring what happened so many years ago, exactly how Luke was related to Lars, or what kind of service Obi Wan was during the Clone Wars. It really kind of spoils it.

Now, by jumping past the Clone Wars into Episode 3, Lucas might recapture some of that mystery. But by releasing it as a TV comic book, he supplys the rabid fans (are there any left) with all the info they crave, but leaves most of us to enjoy putting the peices together between Episode II and Episode III. Much like Lord of the Rings fans can read the Silmarillion.

Re:This is horribly stupid (1)

redtail1 (603986) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360912)

Are you kidding? Samurai Jack is awesome! Dexter's Laboratory is very good too. Given the poor writing in Lucas' last two movies, and the fact that someone else is having a hand in at least the direction of these shorts, these may very well be more interesting than any of the prequels.

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Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5360658)

We can only hope against hope that they won't suck (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5360659)

That's not A New Hope!

I knew it! (4, Interesting)

natron 2.0 (615149) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360662)

I knew something like this was going to happen somewhere in the first three episodes...

It is hard to write prequels for movies that have such a long expansive storyline. I think Lucas thought he could do it all in just three prequels, but now he has realized that he has got in over his head and these clone wars cartoons are just him saving grace. I doubt it will work though. I just hope the transitions from film to cartoon and back to film are seamless.

Not a sermon, just a thought.

Re:I knew it! (1)

Bu5h (632079) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360720)

Maybe we'll get lucky and they will throw in a surprise movie somewhere, and we might actually get to see some of the Clone Wars. Not counting on it, though.

Re:I knew it! (1)

iomud (241310) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360726)

One thing is clear, a lot of shit has to happen in the next movie to properly set up the rest of the story. I have a weird feeling about it though, if it's done right it could be one of the best in the entire series. Then again, there is already evidence that it could suck namely EP1.

Re:I knew it! (1)

Bu5h (632079) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360780)

I feel that the animators and artists will do a hell of a job in making it look good, let's just hope that Lucas has a good storyline for us.

Re:I knew it! (-1)

PedoPeteTownshend (641098) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360973)

let's just hope that Lucas has a good storyline for us.

Ha!

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Oh, pardon me, yes. Lucas capable of writing a good storyline. Yes. Perfectly belie-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

The guy's even worse of a hack than Kenny Russell.

He could have (1)

ACNeal (595975) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360797)

If he would have focused less on the half ass love story, just alluded to it, and spent less time on tracking down the bounty hunter.

It is such a huge expanse of time with a lot of stuff that we already know had to have happened. The question is, what do we want to see, what is important to actually experience, more than just knowing something happened?

I feel he could have elluded to the love affair in the beginning of this movie, and moved closer, if not right into the fall of Anakin right at the end. The over all fact that he was in love in the princess and cast away his Jedi Knighthood for her isn't what I would call an necesary part of the story, especially with as much time that was spent on such a bad example of a love story. I wasn't drawn into the love story, and every scene was painful to watch, a waste of movie footage (bytes, as it were) if you ask me.

I'm a conservative! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5360664)

Oh, I'm a Republican
I got a small schling
I like to bomb niggahs
and make a lot o' bling

I got a bunch o' friends
in high up places
They helps me get dem
government graces.

You think I'm smart
I just know who's who
I couldn't run a fruit stand
without the red white & blue

I'll drop some crap
about Jesus the Christ
You'll buy it all
and vote for me twice

'Fact, Jesus is comin'!
Real soon, now!
So we gotta prop up Israel
That ol' sacred cow

Don't need no history
Don't need no schoolin'
I got my ideology
To keep me a shootin'

Liberals! Faggots!
Commies and queers!
Socialist hippies
Full o' pussy tears

Propaganda's m'friend
But I calls it "fact"
Even though I don't read
'Cept for Chick tracts

Facts? No! Don't need em here!
We're conservatives! We work on FEAR!
Don't like what we say?
Well FUCK YOU, bud!
We'll shove it down yer throat
and tell ya it's good!

Re:I'm a conservative! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5360676)

What'a s "schling"? My dictionary lacks that word.

Lucas just wants money (4, Insightful)

papasui (567265) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360668)

He figure's it millions of dollars cheaper to have the cartoons show the clone wars rather than to film it all. That way he can make ep3 for a lot less and continue to milk all the money from Star Wars geeks with his crappy movies.

Re:Lucas just wants money (1)

kaltkalt (620110) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360826)

Yes that sums it up quite well, I'd just like to add that the next crappy movie will be even crappier because lucas will expect/demand everyone watch the cartoons to fully understand what's going on in Ep3.

What's worse than bad acting and bad dialogue? Plot holes that can only be filled by watching 2-3 minute cartoons on cable tv.

Will roak (5, Interesting)

bytor4232 (304582) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360675)

Given Genny's work on Samauri Jack I think it will rock hard. I am looking forward to it big time.

Re:Will roak (2, Funny)

jcsehak (559709) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360843)

I agree. And given Lucas' work on eps 1 and 2, I expect ep 3 will indeed roak.

Re:Will roak (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5360881)

give me a break...this will be so lame.

Common, honestly (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5360679)

Honestly, how many of you think that the star wars story is good? It's ok to have good and bad forces, and even better to see bad producing good (a budhistic yin-yan reference) but.. "the force" is only in the possesion of few that are born that way. That reminds of "good blood" and "bad blood" references of recistic beliefs.

Re: recistic (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5360767)

I did not recognize that word. I feel better that google did not either.

Hnuh?? (1)

LaDanserie (603476) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360681)

"We can only hope against hope that they won't suck."

Given the quality of Episodes I and II, we may need to do a little more than hope against hope.



...so this is what trolling feels like...

Re:Hnuh?? (1, Redundant)

Guppy06 (410832) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360917)

"Given the quality of Episodes I and II, we may need to do a little more than hope against hope. "

Maybe that's why ep 4 was titled "A New Hope". :)

Old News! (5, Informative)

Amsterdam Vallon (639622) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360683)

Go to START > RUN > and type "telnet://blinkenlights.nl"

They have an animated Star Wars Episode IV in ASCII text!

George W. Lucas is evil (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5360686)

'nuff said.

Translation: Episode 3 will suck, too. (2, Insightful)

nate.sammons (22484) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360698)

So I guess the moral of the story is that Episode 3, which I had hoped would be dark and actually good, with no shouts of "Yippee!" or "Yousa gonna...", will actually suck just like Episodes 1 and 2.

At least we have The Matrix 2 and 3 the look forward to.

-nate

Re:Translation: Episode 3 will suck, too. (1)

Damned (33568) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360802)

If I had mod points I'd mod you up. I was, like you, hoping that Episode 2 or 3 would show us the beginnings of the Empire. After 2, I was looking forward expectantly to the turn to evil of the Republic's clone armies. We would see the jedi slowly realize that the armies were being used for evil and be decimated in the struggle to defeat them and the, now overtly named, emperor.

But no, instead we get some cartoon. Not that cartoons are bad, it just doesn't fit. Also, why this cartoonist? Why not the people behind Blue Sub 6? As far as the actual movies go, I can only assume that we are going to go from the final shots of the Empire's ships being filled with clone soldiers and taking off to an already established empire and virtually no jedi. With the way this is going, Episode 3 will have half or more of the movie spent with Amidala hanging out with Jar Jar and friends under water so the Emperor won't find her before Obi Wan can spirit away the children. Terrible

Hmm... (4, Insightful)

neurojab (15737) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360700)

You're holding your breath for a Lucasfilm "Star Wars" cartoon that doesn't suck? Let's see where there's precedent. You've got the short in the Holiday Special, which actually seems good (even though it isn't) next to the wretched filth of the rest of the special. Then you've got "Ewoks" and "Droids", both of which that despite being based on the immensely popular star wars world and characters, failed miserably due to general suckage.

Now, after "Phantom Menace" and "Attack of the clones", you expect these new shorts to be good? Sorry, the writing is on the wall, and that's not what it says. I'm not going to bother.

Keep holding your breath though... it saves oxygen.

Re:Hmm... (3, Insightful)

ryepup (522994) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360784)

the thing is, Lucas isn't doing these. The animators behind Samuri Jack are in creative control. That means it will be Good. I think Lucas came up with some great ideas, but he lacks on the execution. Which was the best original movie? Which one did he have the least involvement in?

Oh dear... (2, Interesting)

moronga (323123) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360706)

The character designs look TERRIBLE. [starwars.com] :(

Apparently, they got the Samurai Jack / Dexter's Laboratory guy to do the shorts. Who the hell made that decision? His goofy style is totally inappropriate, imo. I'll watch them, but I'm not too optimistic.

If they had to pick someone totally out of left field, they should have gotten the Sealab 2021 guys to do it. :D

Damn straight (4, Funny)

0xdeadbeef (28836) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360756)

I mean, WTF? There aren't any saucer-eyed girls in school uniforms. You call that animation?

Uh, Star Wars has always been for CHILDREN (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5360761)

There are no complicated plots, there are no serious new philosophies, and there definetly was never any adult content.

Star Wars is for Children. And Children love cartoons. And most children have two parents, even if they don't live together. Potentially, that is two incomes the kid has, so this is perfectly logical. Have you intelligent nerds not realized that everything is marketed towards children? Especially 10-13. Check for it.

Re:Uh, Star Wars has always been for CHILDREN (1)

Dr.Enormous (651727) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360915)

Except that, even if you are willing to conceed that Star Wars is for children, it was for children 25 years ago. Who are now...

...adults! Adults who actually have their own money to spend. Adults who have some sentimental attachment to the series. Adults who don't like Lucas acting as if his fan base is still made up of 10-year-olds.

Re:Oh dear... (1)

Drakin (415182) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360835)

You know, I'd like to see these cartoon shorts done as a proper cartoon series, done by someone who can do it justice... (some anime artists could certainly pull off an epic feel for it, like cowboy bebop...hell, even the folks that do Justice League would be better)

But come on... Samurai Jack, while decent enough as a story... is bad on the visuals. I've seen more interesting visuals in Flash movies... looking at the promo pic someone linked to... this'll be the same style... ugh.

Special Edition DVDs (1)

Speedfreak515 (652663) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360709)

I'm thinking this will be put on a Extra Special Super Edition after the whole series has been released on DVD. Then there will be a remake of it and it will be put on the Second Extra Special Super Edition DVD.

Cartoons??????? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5360711)

First off, WOW has the quality of illustrations in cartoons gone down, this guy seriously needs to take some lessons from the guys who did cartoons when I was a kid, because his illustrations are pretty bad compared to what I was used to (aka cartoons that looked semi real)

Second... cartoons? What the heck? As if the star wars universe wasn't already diluted enough! So the little kids will get some fun, but a *fix* for us adults? Come on people...

Star Wars As Domestic Abuse (5, Funny)

gonerill (139660) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360712)

"We can only hope against hope that they won't suck."

I'm sure that, by now, the relationship between George Lucas and his fans is a standard case study in counseling handbooks, codependence manuals, psychotherapy training, etc.

Fans (to counselor): I love him, he's really wonderful deep down, I know he means well and is a decent man.

(Cut to videotape) Lucas: Take this, you stupid bitch! [Smack! Punch! Ewoks! Jar-Jar!]

Fans (Sobbing): It must be my fault --- I just can't seem to please him. I know he doesn't mean to hurt me like this....

It's awful, really.

Look At It This Way... (4, Funny)

superdan2k (135614) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360732)

How much suckitude can George Lucas cram into a 2-3 short? There's only so much bad dialogue and plot loopholes you could cram into that amount of time...

Re:Look At It This Way... (1)

kaltkalt (620110) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360851)

The question isn't how much the cartoons will suck, but rather how much the cartoons (with necessary plot info/devices) will cause Episode 3 to suck. That's the issue here. I could give a rat's ass if the cartoons suck.

Re:Look At It This Way... (1)

battis (317725) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360868)

Yeah... but think about the fact that he's got Genndy Tartakovsky helping him suck. If they tag-team it, the could cram a lot...

Why bother (4, Informative)

gmhowell (26755) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360736)

This is hardly worth the time. First, it's listed in the 'expanded universe' section of the website. That means it's not canon; it doesn't count. Second, there isn't even going to be a proper cartoon of ~30 minute length. These are 2-3 minute shorts that will be shown as filler between shows. Finally, they only expect 20 of them. Less than one hour.

Why bother?

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MySQL Troll (651354) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360984)

No kidding. Not something worth going out of your way for. I predict the most popular way of viewing these will be back to back cut and pasted together in Windows Movie Maker from a download off of a p2p network.

Why? (0, Interesting)

Pedrito (94783) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360741)

Is anyone actually going to go see Episode 3? I mean, Lucas is directing it, right? At least he had the sense to let Kershner and Marquand direct "Empire" and "Return". The acting was significantly better because of it.


I saw Episode 2 recently because a friend told me it was good (I will no longer trust his judgement in movies) and because I had heard there was less Jarjar in it. The acting was so flat and emotionless, this from some really good actors too. It was pathetic. When one good actor does poorly in a movie, you can blame the actor. When all the good actors in a movie do poorly, there's only one person to blame: The director.


Lucas created an amazing story, and made a huge breakthrough with Star Wars. When he handed the director's chair over in Episodes 5 and 6, it only got better. Then, for reasons I'll never understand, he decided to sabotage his masterpiece by taking back the director's chair.


Look, Lucas did a great job with American Graffiti. That was the one and only movie where he ever did a good job directing actors, though. And now his direction of CGI generated characters is even worse. George: Get out of the director's chair. Produce, write, but please, for the love of God, Don't Direct!

People actually care about Episode 3? (4, Insightful)

SystematicPsycho (456042) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360743)

After George Lucas single handedly ruined episode 1 & 2 from poor directing and producing, not taking any advice from anyone as he was forced to do in 4,5 & 6 - I'm certainly not going to be lining up when 3 comes out. I'll go see it in order to say the line "and now his failure is complete". I recently caught episode 1 on tv, with the exception of roughly 10 scenes, every scene in the movie is poorly directed, the dialogue is horrible and does not pack the punch 4,5 & 6 half did.

I certainly do think that the Lucas franchise has exploited viewers beyond any other films in history. This even beats the 10 versions of Blade Runner and Jurassic Park merchandise. A cartoon series to bridge the gap between numbers 2 & 3 shows they are aiming for a new generation of fans.

I heard that he will be redoing 4,5 & 6 too, is this true?

Re:People actually care about Episode 3? (1)

Galvatron (115029) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360872)

I heard that he will be redoing 4,5 & 6 too, is this true?


Um, he already did. It was called the Special Edition, remember?

Hope against hope? (1)

osgeek (239988) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360753)

We can only hope against hope that they won't suck.

Besides that one Yoda battle in EP2, exactly what part of the Star Wars universe hasn't sucked since TESB?

Re:Hope against hope? (1)

Hadlock (143607) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360865)

natalie portman pouring hot grits down my pants :-D

no seriously though, you're right, without the exception, these "first" three episodes royally suck ass. jury's still out on ep 3 but most likely it'll be the least bad of the three. the only thing the "first" three have going for them is natalie portman and hans christiansen as attractive spokespeople for the series, the only thing really dragging people in to see these things, besides, of course, their legacy. was ROJ that bad? i'll have to watch it again, it's been a while.

Star Wars Franchise is as bad as Star Trek (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5360762)

TNG aside, the Star Wars spinoffs are getting as bad as the Star Drek stuff.

We weren't going to see the clone wars anyway... (2, Informative)

djtremel (651082) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360766)

Lucas and TPTB (Rick McCallum and others) have said in interviews that the final climactic battle of the clone wars takes place at the beginning of EP III. If they want to give us some insite as to what actually happens during the clone wars then so be it. It's not like any of this stuff was going to be on film anyway! Don't get me wrong, it would be nice to see it in full CG with the power of ILM behind it but that's not going to happen so get over it and accept that Lucas has chosen to do anything at all.

Clone Wars? (2, Funny)

AnonymousCowheard (239159) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360783)

Lemme guess...the movie won a mere battle, but the war rages on! I despise hollywood's logic; anything to continue slugging kids' cereal boxes with wookies, jarjar, and pokemon...

Now Slashdot Wars...that'll be one hell of a cereal box! It would be rockin' if I get buy a box of "Quaker Oaties" and I would receive..."Quake4:william_pen's_alien_outhouse!" or open a box of "William Wonker's Nerdz" and receive a free 30-day add-less subscription to "Slashdot: News for Nerdz, stuff that matters a bit!"

That'll be the day...*cries*

what about dvd? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5360806)

Why won't they release the original episodes on DVD? Are they afraid they may over-commercialize the Star Wars name?

I'm still holding out for Space Balls II: The Search For More Money.

This makes good sense. (4, Funny)

Syncdata (596941) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360809)

After all, the only parts I liked in Ep:1 and ep:2 were roughly 2-3 minutes long. The opening chase in ep:2, yoda knife fight, all about 2-3 minutes long. The rest of the movie could have been cut all together. As a matter of fact, I nominate there not be a EP3: at all, that lucas just show a quick montage of lightsabers turning on, women with odd haircuts, and planets/planetoid bodies exploding. Maybe set it to techno music, rather than the john williams score. 10 minutes long, in total, no muss, no fuss, just give me my noisy splosions in space.
I'm so tired of the train wreck of the star wars universe, I'm not even going to bother to preview this post before clicking submit.

And these are different from commercials how?? (1)

Unknown Poltroon (31628) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360812)

REally? A one time only cartoon movie/episode would make sense, but this is just idiotic.

Would you rather watch a 6 hour movie? (3, Interesting)

vgaphil (449000) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360841)

If Lucas didn't do this Episode III would be about 6 hours long. It's a cheesy idea, but at least George is trying to fill in the gaps. I just hope I don't end up fighting over the remote with my 5 year-old. She loves SpongeBob on Nickelodeon, but who doesn't?

Cartoon SW?! Ack! (1)

cmburns69 (169686) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360842)

Can anybody say "Star Wars Christmas Special"?!

Will we be able to watch these cartoons in 2 years without barfing?

Re:Cartoon SW?! Ack! (1)

ideonode (163753) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360904)

Good call. And given that the cartoon element in the Star Wars Holiday Special was about Boba Fett [bobafettmp.com] , it could be that the Holiday special was 25 years ahead of the game.

Star Wars Trek (4, Interesting)

Helpadingoatemybaby (629248) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360853)

Just like with Star Trek, another franchise that was exploited right down the toilet, Star Wars has performed poorer and poorer with each outing.

Mark my words, when the franchises are really on the ropes, and no movies have been made for a few years, someone in Hollywood will propose "A combined Star Trek vs. Star Wars battle where Princess Leia has to fight against Jean Luc Picard" which thankfully will go nowhere. (Or worse yet: "Princess Leia falls in love with Jean Luc Picard...")

Don't believe me? Remember "Alien vs. Predator" or "Superman vs. Batman"? Both projects that came at the ends of the franchises.

Now that Hollywood has come out with just a few too many comic book movies (the Hulk, coming soon, with Archie and Veronica even being proposed) the whole comic trend will eventually collapse and like all good Hollywood things, will have been exploited to death.

Cases in point: the meteor movie trend, that's cratered, the "virus" movie trend (Outbreak et al) has died, the space adventure (Star Wars, Star Trek) lasted longer than most, but appears to be having the air sucked out of it's lungs, and now the comic book movie trend is crumpling.

The nice thing about Hollywood is that it is very predictable... almost as predictable as the mass market viewers.

What's the next movie bandwagon? I predict five years of dog movies. :)

(insert witty "you insensitive clod" reference) (1)

OSUJoe (549620) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360854)

Yeah... my roommates WOULD decide to get rid of cable now, of all times.

It's time for a little apartment mutiny.

Re:(insert witty "you insensitive clod" reference) (2, Funny)

Politburo (640618) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360910)

You're right! There's absolutely no way they could transmit a 2-3 minute cartoon across the internet for easy viewing. Kill em all!

Grassroots Advertizing/Distribution (3, Interesting)

X-rated Ouroboros (526150) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360882)

20 two to three minute shorts...
Bet you those will be all over the P2P networks soon enough.
Bet you that's exactly what was intended, too.

It's nice to see someone finally tapping into a viral distribution model. Let's hope that they don't suck and the mocking spoofs don't become more popular than the originals.

Make a good movie (1)

sidb (530400) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360885)

I would rather see Episode 3 be a good movie than have it connect every plot thread between 2 and 4. I'm not sure whether Lucas agrees with me here, though.

The cartoons could help free up time to make a good movie, yet still (somewhat) satisfy fans who demand Clone War action. Really, though, it's probably just marketing to scoop up kids in preparation for a movie that will squander the extra time it gains anyway. Sigh.

Maybe the should just call it Episode III: The Return of Jar-Jar and be done with it.

Sick thing (2, Interesting)

Picass0 (147474) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360887)


It would be ironic if these cartoons turned out to have better charater and story development than the EPs 1-3. I've thought for a long time that Lucas' directing is part of the problem, and now we will see what these characters can do in somebody else's hands.

i don't get it. (1)

Kewjoe (307612) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360891)

here is what i don't understand.. assuming Ep. 3 is going to be the movie standard 2 hours in length.. and these 20 short clips add up to almost an hour.. why not just lengthen Episode 3 to three hours ? you kill two birds with one stone.

with all the recent 3 hour movies, you won't hear too many complaints about the length (unless the movie will suck)

Won't this just be the plot of the video game? (1)

ewg (158266) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360930)

How will these stories be different from the plot of the Star Wars: Clone Wars console video game?

Clones are dupes (1)

1u3hr (530656) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360932)

Tatologically, this story is a dupe. [slashdot.org]

Posted by CmdrTaco [cmdrtaco.net] on Monday November 18, @12:00AM
from the you-gotta-be-kidding dept.
NeoCode [mailto] writes "There were rumours and speculations [aintitcool.com] first. Now it looks like its a done deal [aintitcool.com] . Harry Knowles, of AintItCool.com [aintitcool.com] has reports on an animated version of Star Wars set after AOTC but before episode 3. This series is produced by Genndy Tartakovsky (Dexter's Lab, Powerpuff Girls, Samurai Jack). The cartoons will be a series of short films. Could this infuse Star Wars with a new life or is this just another merchandising plot? Nevertheless, this could be quite interesting." Yeah look what good Ewoks & Droids did for the SW universe ;)

I just hope... (1)

rsilvergun (571051) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360950)

this means I'll be seeing more action figures at my local toy shops. Me and my bro both collect, but lately I'm seeing nothing new except from scalpers (who I won't buy from. It's ridiculous to pay more for a new figure than for a 25 year old vintage figure). Am I the only one not seeing any of the newer toys?

The art style has me worried though, can't say I like it. Oh well.

Hopefully, This Won't Be Too Bad (1)

E-Rock-23 (470500) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360974)

Alright. So, alot of us are in agreeance that Episodes I and II sucked ass. While the original Trilogy is still considered among the greatest in history, the last two movies have put a sour taste on the Star Wars sweetness.

With Genndy Tartakovsky at the helm of the animated project, I really can't see this as being all too bad. While Genndy and his team probably won't have much of a say story wise (which is where this might fail), we can bet that the animation will be slick and stylish. Genndy is a damned genius, and that was proven when Samurai Jack hit the scene.

So here I am, with cautious optimism that the top animator in America can salvage a franchise that's quickly swirling down the toilet bowl. If anyone can do it, it's Genndy Tartakovsky. Here's hoping that something good can come out of the modern Star Wars paradox...

I've Got a Bad Feeling About This... (1)

Cyno01 (573917) | more than 11 years ago | (#5360980)

Because we all know how great Star Wars cartoons are... *thinks of holiday special, curls up in fetal position*
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