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Retro-Computing with FPGAs

michael posted more than 11 years ago | from the overkill dept.

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zoid.com writes "I ran across a couple of really interesting projects using Field Programmable Gate Array (FPGA) processors. First is the C-ONE project that is a reconfigurable computer. The default mode is a C64 compatible one, but the machine just boots the FPGA from an IDE device at power on, so it could theoretically be pretty much anything. The second one is the FPGA Arcade. This site is about recreating gaming hardware from the past in modern programmable devices. They currently have Pacman, Space Invaders and Galaxian implemented in FPGAs."

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Kreskin and "Hypno Duck" (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363590)

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YOU FAIL IT! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363667)

This is not the first post. Go perform cunnilingus on your mom's ass. Lick that shithole good, fail-reamer.
YUO AER TEH FAIL!!!11111

Any point? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363595)

Is there any usefull application of this technology besides being able to play C64 Games?

Re:Any point? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363645)

The word is USEFUL. You know, to describe something that could be of use.. like a goddamned dictionary maybe?

cheers! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363782)

While I'm all in favor of the elimination of idiocy on slashdot, I think you're wasting your time correcting morons like this one.

Re:Any point? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363852)

Maybe they can run linux on it.

Re:Any point? (4, Insightful)

Wildstar128 (646634) | more than 11 years ago | (#5363984)

Hallo, the C-One can be many things. Lets not think so outright that the C-One is strictly about "Retro-Computing". It is in ways as ultra-modern by concept that hardware can be reconfigurable. One chip that can be turned into different kinds of hardware. That is a feat that will take incredible CPU power to make as virtual machines. With FPGAs its not virtual and its not emulated. Think of an array of silicon gates that can be rewired on the fly without use of soldering gun or expensive fabrication labs. The C-One's C-64 mode and compatibility is a feat about retro but think of tha past and the future being put into one point. Futuristic hardware concepts can literally be "proven". Now we can make hardware alot like we can make software. We can make efficient hardware with the same efficient principles of efficient software programming with understanding of hardware. What about real-world prototyping. Developers will love this. In all reality, we can even be a DVD Player as well. The future of the C-One would be the use of FPGA technology and a new revolution of software that incorporates hardware add-ons on CD-ROM. Now imagine this, I have this super fancy SuperNintendo cartridge, I can now incorporate a SuperFX chip all on CD-ROM. How, it is called VHDL the revolutionary bridge between software and hardware. Our ability to reprogram the hardware via software. The ability to incorporate our very own hardware in every CD-ROM we sell. Now, we can distribute hardware in 10-15 cent CD-R disc (CD-ROM). This is some of many possibilities we can see. This is only the beginning. Reconfigurable hardware is used in even modern DVD Players and digital setop boxes and other luxeries and state of the art products.

oh my god (-1, Troll)

c.emmertfoster (577356) | more than 11 years ago | (#5363596)

I just heard a radio report that Billy Joel is dead... what a tragedy. This is really offtopic, but he was such a great musician. He will be missed by all.

Re:oh my god (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363605)

Even if you didn't enjoy his music, you've got to acknowledge his contribution to... never mind, fuck it. Let's go bowling.

Re:oh my god (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363625)

Fuck sympathy! I don't need your fuckin' sympathy, man, I need my fucking johnson!

Re:oh my god (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363662)

I need my fucking johnson!

It's up your ass where you left it, Dumbshit.

Re:oh my god (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363632)

Check out CNN Headline News. Billy Joel is really dead. His car skidded off the road into
Long Island Sound. Road conditons were reported as icy with heavy fog at the time. Bummer.

Hardware emulation (2, Redundant)

gpinzone (531794) | more than 11 years ago | (#5363597)

How is this different from what MAME does?

Re:Hardware emulation (4, Insightful)

cuddles (586189) | more than 11 years ago | (#5363634)

Quick quiz: What is MAME? Software, right. Second question: What's an FPGA? Field Programmable Gate Array - a chunk of reconfigurable silicon. Now you tell me :--) Gordon

Re:Hardware emulation (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363644)

There are a number of inaccuracies in Mame's mspacman emulation. This has the possibility of being perfect. Also a chip is a lot cheaper than a computer and good pac boards are getting scarce.

Re:Hardware emulation (1)

jericho4.0 (565125) | more than 11 years ago | (#5363706)

Priced out a FPGA recently? Not cheap.

Re:Hardware emulation (2, Insightful)

tazan (652775) | more than 11 years ago | (#5363731)

Yes I have and in this case it's less than a computer with an interface to an arcade cabinet and about the same as a used 25 year old board from ebay. I'd much rather have a new board.

Re:Hardware emulation (5, Informative)

dmaxwell (43234) | more than 11 years ago | (#5363653)

MAME uses software to simulate arcade hardware using general purpose computing hardware.

FPGA's are a different beast altogether. An FPGA is similar to a ROM in that patterns can be burned into it but they are far more versatile. FPGA's can have logic burned into them which makes them malleble hardware. An FPGA with a 6502 processor and supporting logic burned into it is NOT emulating say Pac-Man. It is a re-implementation of Pac-Man.

This guy is implementing an Atari 2600 on an FPGA:

http://www.mindspring.com/~2600onachip/

If he pulls it off, one could do neat things like make a super battery efficient handheld. The FPGA is for all intents and purposes a 2600 so there isn't the overhead a StrongARM chip running at 200Mhz would have.

Re:Hardware emulation (4, Funny)

whereiswaldo (459052) | more than 11 years ago | (#5363675)


So far, gaming companies have been pretty generous about letting people copy very obsolete games from the C64 era. I hope that by creating hardware platforms for these obsolete games becomes more widespread, the gaming companies don't start changing their minds. I guess as long as people don't start making a lot of money at it?

Did someone say $$? (1)

Andorion (526481) | more than 11 years ago | (#5364061)

I'll sell you my original copy of Ultimate Wizard for $50... just don't tell EA.

~Berj

Or not. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5364068)

There seems to be a very healthy market [ebay.com] for Commodore 64 products...

~Berj

Re:Hardware emulation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363681)

"FPGA is for all intents and purposes a 2600"

WRONG! FPGAs consume a great deal of power and dissipate a great deal of heat. Logic cells aren't free.

Re:Hardware emulation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363737)

"FPGA is for all intents and purposes a 2600"

WRONG! FPGAs consume a great deal of power and dissipate a great deal of heat. Logic cells aren't free.


Actually, it is. All of the logic of a 2600 can be reproduced inside a modern FPGA. And I'm sure it dissipates less power and heat than an original 2600. Just look at a 2600's logic board!

Re:Hardware emulation (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363718)

An FPGA is similar to a ROM in that patterns can be burned into it but they are far more versatile. FPGA's can have logic burned into them which makes them malleble hardware

Close. You're actually describing a PAL. An FPGA is more similar to RAM. Think of it as the high speed memory of programmable logic devices. When it loses power, it loses it's programming. An FPGA usually reads it's configuration on power-up from ROM or a PC's parallel port if you're prototyping. There's really no "burning" involved.

Re:Hardware emulation (1)

videodriverguy (602232) | more than 11 years ago | (#5364023)

Not all FPGAs lose their programming on power off. Some have an internal flash rom that backs up the ram (or even dispenses with it completely). Field Programmable Gate Array means exactly that - it CAN be programmed in the field, but doesn't have to be.

You arrogant bastard (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363770)

Who are YOU to assume we don't know what FPGA is?

How fair do you think the great game of Golf would be if they didn't let females play? Hmm?

Re:You arrogant bastard (1)

Wildstar128 (646634) | more than 11 years ago | (#5364006)

Correct, for the acroymn - WRONG subject. Get into computers terminologies. Hints: It's not Fantasy Players Gaming Association. It stands for "Field Programmable Gate Array".

Re:Hardware emulation (1, Insightful)

Wildstar128 (646634) | more than 11 years ago | (#5363999)

Guess what with FPGA - it can even be the SNES in one chip and also include all the cartridges and all the VHDL implementation of every hardware add-on included in the cartridges and added in on the fly on little Flash Cards the size of a PS2 memory card. Now we may call this the Nintendo Advance - No. Its one chip, and may use less power and still equal ther performance. You could even build your own Gameboy Advance like device with one FPGA. Have 1280 x 1024 resolution. All you need is a 300 K gate logic device. You can even use the Nios core that is built in to such FPGAs as the CPU.

Re:Hardware emulation (-1, Flamebait)

c.emmertfoster (577356) | more than 11 years ago | (#5363658)

fuck MAMEs! All the computer game industry is, is a patriarchal construct meant to provide surrogate women for men who never have a chance at getting real pussy in their life. We can no longer be held for responsible for the socially inept! All of the "fake" women (ie Laura Croft)serve as mastrabatory outlets for erect penises either too latent to find the gay anus they really desire or too foul for real cunt. Down with video games! Down with opression!

Re:Hardware emulation (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363663)

If ever there was a man in need of a blowjob it is surely you.

Nice. (3, Funny)

cybermace5 (446439) | more than 11 years ago | (#5363606)

All I can say is: this is the best use of FPGA technology ever.

Re:Nice. (1)

jericho4.0 (565125) | more than 11 years ago | (#5363726)

Well, if you mean that, I hope you enjoy your $200 C-64. :-)
IMO, there are lots of _very_ cool FPGA devices about to hit market, and they are going to change how we use computers. Gaming not the least.

Re:Nice. (1)

jafuser (112236) | more than 11 years ago | (#5363864)

I'll say...

Last I heard of FPGAs they were being touted in the same realm of likelyness as FMD or MRAM... I had no idea they are out there and working in reality already...

Amazing =D

Re:Nice. (1)

Majik Sznak (230190) | more than 11 years ago | (#5363894)

When was this?

The first I heard of FPGAs was in University. We got to play with them for a project course. Fun stuff. I still have a dev board from Altera kicking around. It even has a VGA port.

Anyway, One guy made a fully functional Arkanoid clone for his project. Someone who graduated a year or two after me had the idea of emulating old arcade systems in an FPGA.

Pac-man with an FPGA? (2, Funny)

absurdhero (614828) | more than 11 years ago | (#5363607)

And I thought a binary calculator on an FPGA was really cool. With classic arcade games running on everything but toasters, no wonder arcades are having trouble staying in business.

Re:Pac-man with an FPGA? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363854)

maybe they wouldn't have that problem if they had fun games, not the standard crappy capcom fighter clones.

what about decimal . ? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363614)

How much time is wasted converting to and from decimal? Decimal is bad.

I must have masturbated too much! (-1, Troll)

Amsterdam Vallon (639622) | more than 11 years ago | (#5363621)

I knew I should've listened to my mom. If I had, I'd be able to read the text on the damn site [c64upgra.de].

Take this as a warning kids -- STOP OR YOU'LL GO BLIND!

Re:I must have masturbated too much! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363670)

It helps if you highlight it first.

your efforts (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363790)

at karma whoring on this article have failed miserably.

at least you're not still posting 'Linux?' posts, I guess.

VAGINAS (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363629)

clam ass

dupe (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363630)

isn't the news about the C-One a duplicate? That was posted a few weeks ago and it said about the same thing. It's still nice to know, though.

Slashdot runs using these processors... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363633)

That accounts for the general slowness of this blog.

This has been posted before (2, Informative)

caouchouc (652238) | more than 11 years ago | (#5363641)

This is a dupe [slashdot.org].
I remember people mentioning that this thing is uneconomical compared to an emulator because of how expensive FPGAs are.

FPGAs are no more uneconomical (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363830)

The cost of an altera cyclone fpga is $1.50 per 1000 logic elements and falling. It will become cheaper by the day. Moreover, fpgas offer the flexibility in hardware, which is IMHO revolutionary.

Another colossal (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363677)

waste of time. The PC has become the ubiquitous cheap fast and powerful all-purpose hardware. What's the point of this little exercise? "Saving" 300$ as compared to buying a PC? The thing is, everyone already HAS a PC, and you need a lot of equipment that not a lot of people have to get a FPGA running.
If you want to be 1337 with hardware, why don't you build a time machine and travel to the 70s when someone gave a damn?

Re:Another colossal (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363909)

You are not in the target audience. The target audience is the type of person that finds this cool.

Secondly, don't be stupid. The board has all the equipment to get the FPGA running - in fact, for a typical end user, the fact it's FPGA rather than convetional silicon is pretty much irrlevant. It's not very much extra anyway.

Thirdly, hell, for somebody, this is a project in learning FPGA's that beats "building a calculator" or anything that boring.

You, sir, are no hacker.

Jeez! (2, Funny)

sakusha (441986) | more than 11 years ago | (#5363678)

You know, they STILL make 6502s, what's the point of doing it the hard way?

Re:Jeez! (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363688)

Do they make 6502s that can also be 8080s, 6800s, RCA 1802s... just by rebooting? No? Then you're completely missing the point.

Not that that's anything new for Slashdot.

Re:Jeez! (2, Insightful)

tazan (652775) | more than 11 years ago | (#5363707)

The problems not the cpu, z80's are less than $2. Having a 12" x 18" circuit board made and populated with the other 150 chips on the board gets expensive.

Re:Jeez! (1)

sakusha (441986) | more than 11 years ago | (#5363733)

Ah.. Well, it was my understanding that they're making new chips with full code compatibility but smaller support systems. IIRC, I saw a full Z80 system with video out that could be done with 5 chips, but that was a long time ago. I haven't worked with that sort of hardware in ages, so my memory could be wrong, of course.

Re:Jeez! (3, Informative)

Wildstar128 (646634) | more than 11 years ago | (#5364024)

65c02 not 6502. There are some differences. 6502 which is the NMOS fabricated model made by MOS Technology aka Commodore Semicondictors (CSG later used). C64 used 6510. The C-1 uses a 65c816 and the 6510 special features are cored into the FPGA (I think) Yet, the two FPGAs have to "emulate" (if you want to call it that) are the VIC-II and SID chip which are *NOT* made anymore. Jeri Ellsworth made special features known as the Super VIC and Monster SID mode on top of the classic features. These include the full enhanced sound and enhanced video modes like 1280 x 1024 resolution and 65536 colors. (More then your eyes can distinctively tell in an animated motion) Dithered imaging - hehehe lets look at 4 Billion RGB Chroma values. Hope you can tell.

C64 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363690)

Recently spent some Googletime finding interfaces for my bank of 64's. This cannot be bad. What I'd like is for some nice sware to Beowulf them all...

Top 5 reasons to become a retro-computer geek (2, Funny)

Amsterdam Vallon (639622) | more than 11 years ago | (#5363697)

5 -- Your outdated computers will go really well with your outdated hairstyle

4 -- Reducing costs by purchasing old stuff is an essential part of the 1, 2, 3, Profit! scheme

3 -- Go back in time and invent the Internet before Al Gore gets around to it

2 -- 1337 + 666 = 2003, which is a sure sign that now is the time to become a retro geek

1 -- Being an R.C.G. is a lot like playing an R.P.G., only without the whole play-3-days-straight-get-up-puke-in-bathroom-die-s oon-thereafter routine

Remember that you can always get free blogging for life at *nix.org [starnix.org]

MODERATE PARENT +1 FUNNY!!! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363762)

YES!

NOT HIM AGAIN! MOD DOWN!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363784)

For christ's sake those top 5 lists should be dead, like dinosaurs! i mean look at his history and youll see the karma whoring!!!!

you know what fucks me up? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363798)

I'm actually a member at *nix.org, and seeing you post such shite here reminds me why I shouldn't visit that site.

FPGAs are cool... (4, Informative)

metlin (258108) | more than 11 years ago | (#5363715)

...and cheap. A half decent FPGA can be obtained for about a dollar and odd in most parts of Asia. And that gives you a whole lot more malleability to play around, and you could mess up without really worrying much :-)

One really cool application is the implementation of various crypto algorithms for realtime simple uses, like this [eleves.ens.fr].

There is also something called the FPGA Design Contest [sharif.edu] - amazing stuff!

Games are entertaining I guess, but if we could implement crypto algos and cool AI stuff at home using FPGAs, nothing quite beats that :-)

Re:FPGAs are cool... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363911)

Google Cache [216.239.57.100] of the FPGA Design Contest page linked above.

Damn second-level Slashdot effect =)

In Soviet Russia... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363717)

We have to create our own processors.

P.S. Troll Tuesday is going hardcore this week. Get ready for it.

I HAVE MARKED MY CALENDAR (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363810)

don't let me down, negro.

Tuesday is TACO Tuesday (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363898)

Save $0.10 on tacos at Taco Bell.

Confusion Over Sponsorship (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363920)

I thought Troll Tuesday was brought to me by the friendly people at Subway Sandwiches [keenspace.com].

Transmeta (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363720)

wasn't code morhping technology supposed to be this?

Re:Transmeta (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5364071)

No, code morphing translates machine code to suit the hardware pipeline you're using. With a FPGA you can create any hardware pipeline you need to natively execute your machine code.

Re:Transmeta (4, Informative)

Anne Thwacks (531696) | more than 11 years ago | (#5364077)

wasn't code morhping technology supposed to be this?

No -the opposite - code morphing dynamically adapts the software to fit the hardware- an FPGA dynamically adapts the hardware to fit the software.

If you want to play with FPGA stuff, then one of the best is the Quickstart Technology board [quickstart...nology.com] - this includes the download/programming interface and power supply on board - you just plug the board into your parallel port, and you have hardware that can be anything. Powerful enough to do a VAX. (You also have to download the software to do your design, but that's free as in beer!

Size... (0, Redundant)

OneFix (18661) | more than 11 years ago | (#5363722)

That's nice...but, this will not be very useful compared to todays apps and emulators...now if they could get the hardware down to size, this would be a great PDA...

Looking at the pictures & specs, it requires an ATX case & power supply...

And it's listed at ~$200 for just the board...there isn't even a real SID chip in there...you have to add your own SID chips to get the "authentic experience"...by comparison, the same $200 should get you an AMD-based motherboard+cpu+ram combo in the 2-2.5 GHz range...which should be more than enough power to run any 6502 emulator...

What's worse is listed at the end of this page [c64upgra.de]...

** Floppy/IDE Interface
In the initial release these interfaces will not have any support software (with the exception of 1581 emulation), it is hoped that with the ease of interfacing to the floppy and IDE drives a more 'software oriented individual' will develop the necessary support software for these devices.


Translation: You'll only be able to use the 3.5 floppy drive emulation...and we couldn't get anything else to work with it...we hope you can write the software...

I'll wait for the next generation...or maybe the generation after that...

Re:Size... (3, Insightful)

Orion_ (83461) | more than 11 years ago | (#5363768)

That's nice...but, this will not be very useful compared to todays apps and emulators...now if they could get the hardware down to size, this would be a great PDA...

You've entirely missed the point... this is not meant to be a "useful" machine, but rather a hobbyist machine. Something for people who want to be able to tinker and play with a computer with a relatively simple design that allows a programmer to have more or less complete control of the machine. Modern PCs are much too complex to fit this niche.

Think of it as something like a more advanced version of the C64 (or other 8-bits). Not something for people trying to do serious work -- that's what your desktop computer is for -- but something for people that like really get into the guts of the system.

Re:Size... (0, Flamebait)

OneFix (18661) | more than 11 years ago | (#5363789)

Not something for people trying to do serious work -- that's what your desktop computer is for -- but something for people that like really get into the guts of the system.

How so? Umh, you can't get into the "guts" of a desktop? There were certainly a lot of hacks for the old C= 64...but this is going to be a piece of compatable hardware...many of the old "hacks" will be impossible with this new hardware...in that case, wouldn't it be better for them to make a new system?

Re:Size... (1)

Thowllly (529311) | more than 11 years ago | (#5363775)

Who are 'They'? The C-ONE was made by a single woman as a hobby project.

Re:Size... (0)

OneFix (18661) | more than 11 years ago | (#5363814)

Well, then I'm mistaken...that's even worse...

I'm going to pay $200 for a system that was designed by 1 person???

I think not...how much debugging has she done? Has she tested with alternate configurations? How do I know there aren't any bugs in the hardware? What about software bugs??

Custom SETI@Home chip. (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363750)

So, could it be done? A FPGA chip reprogrammed to crunch SETI code via hardware?

Re:Custom SETI@Home chip. (5, Informative)

swmccracken (106576) | more than 11 years ago | (#5363922)

Yep, if SETI@Home cared to release such code.

Open Core's project list [opencores.org] gives a list of cores you can download *right now* under the *GPL* and do stuff with. Shows you the kind of things you can do. (I believe you can combine multiple cores onto one FPGA as well, if they'll fit, and they can intercommunicate.)

I have heard of people talking about a PCI card with a few FPGA's on it; so dedicated programs could download their own accellerator programs to them. It's just an idea at the moment, AFAIK, but hey.

FPGA: Faggot Putz Gay Anus (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363763)

Rectal-computing with FPGA - Faggot Putz, Gay Anus

Another fine service of Slashdot home of the Gays

Hey Michael... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363778)

..UR teh Sux0r

53? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363783)

Is this 53rd FPGA post?

Maybe...

Maybe not.

Whatever the case, it is a slashdot post, as any other slashdot post. It has Subject, Comment, someone will maybe reply and someone will moderate, I'm sure. Most people won't even see it but it will affect life of at least 1 person - moderator who prefers to waste mod points on crap like this, instead of rewarding clever, funny and all around intelligent slashdotters.

That was the purpose of this 53rd post.

Re:53? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363803)

You, sir, have just been nomminated for the STOTY Award! Congratulations!

What is STOTY?

  • Short Troll Of The Year

dear larry (-1, Offtopic)

Letter (634816) | more than 11 years ago | (#5363799)

dear larry,

when we met on-line the other day i felt some new and exciting, a feeling i haven't had for a long time. i've been lonely ever since laquesha left me for the slashdot guy, cowboy neal. i was cooking dinner, alone, (three hot dogs, with chili, slaw, mayo, ketchup and mustard) when the bell rang on my outlook saying i received your e-mail. your poem was beautiful, like your back (sorry i was looking at it while we were in the sauna, please be flattered not offended). so, i wanted to ask if we could see each other again this friday? i know of a great place where we could pick up some biscuits and sweet tea, some chips and maybe some diet, to wash down the buffalo chips, and maybe we can rent a movie and bring it back to my place?? (fingers crossed ;) IM me or e-mail soon!

your new buddy,
jakob d.

[[OH]] [[MY]] [[GOD]] (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363815)

THIS SHIT IS BOLD!
Suck it.

It uses a CPU, not an FPGA (5, Informative)

udif (32355) | more than 11 years ago | (#5363829)

The site is currently slashdoted, but as far as I remember, it uses a WDC 65C816 instead of the C64's 6510 CPU. The FPGA is used only for emulating the peripherals such as the IDE interface, 6581 SID sound chip, 2x6526 CIA chips, VIC chip emulation, etc.

Re:It uses a CPU, not an FPGA (2, Informative)

swmccracken (106576) | more than 11 years ago | (#5363977)

It seems you're right; note that the CPU is on a seperate board and the system is desinged to allow you to switch it. (And since the main thing the CPU interfaces to is FPGAs, designing a new CPU board is easy because you can reconfigure the FPGAs to match the new CPU.) It also seems the FPGAs do the inteface the CPU to everything else bits as well.

It is still possible to emulate the Atari 2600 or whatever - but it involves switching the processor.

http://www.geocities.com/profdredd/commodoreone/ cm drone.html

It's not entirely clear where the "monster-sid" is located; it seems it's in (one of the two) FPGAs.

I think. Unless I'm rong. :-)

FPGA (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363840)

Why not call it the Fucking Programmable Gate Array?

you stink (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363846)

you all stink. Literally. Get showers, get haircuts and get lives. Please. Get some fresh air and get out in the sun for a change. It's that big yellow thing in the giant blue room.

You first (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5364029)

We'll follow along if you come back alive.

FPGA and bnp (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5363862)

The best way to preserve the FPGA is to [lycos.co.uk]
join the bnp!

Why not... (3, Interesting)

g4dget (579145) | more than 11 years ago | (#5363902)

Why not get one of these [mini-itx.com] and run this [t-online.de]? You can get a complete system with power supply and nice case for less than just the C-ONE board alone costs.

Re:Why not... (1)

great throwdini (118430) | more than 11 years ago | (#5363916)

Why not get one of these [miniITX systems] and run this [VICE emulator]?

In three words: no cartridge port.

There's a sublime physical value to plugging in a game cartridge instead of simply loading a ROM image. Then again, there were far more diskette or cassette based games for the C64, so I might as well shut up.

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