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International Connectivity

timothy posted more than 11 years ago | from the aim-high-pay-low dept.

The Internet 504

Steve Suppe writes "As an American who is going to be living overseas for a few years (Germany, to be more exact), I'm curious as to what advice/information Slashdot could provide people like me. How much can I expect to pay for dial-up/broadband, and from who? I'd be interested to hear how it differs around the world. Any good reference sites? Thanks!"

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An American in Germany? (-1, Troll)

Angry White Guy (521337) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420775)

You must be more hated there than I am on /.!

Re:An American in Germany? (0, Troll)

larien (5608) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420790)

Could be worse; could be France...

Re:An American in Germany? (5, Funny)

Angry White Guy (521337) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420814)

Hey I'm Canadian, and we're starting to get it here too. This is going to be labelled a troll, but one of our comedians wrote an apology letter for our recent behavior. Here's a copy:

A truly Canadian Apology to the USA...

Courtesy of Rick Mercer from This Hour Has 22 Minutes CBC Television

On behalf of Canadians everywhere I'd like to offer an apology to
the United States of America.
We haven't been getting along very well recently and for that, I am truly sorry.
I'm sorry we called George Bush a moron.
He is a moron but, it wasn't nice of us to point it out.
If it's any consolation, the fact that he's a moron shouldn't reflect poorly on the people of America.
After all it's not like you actually elected him.
I'm sorry about our softwood lumber.
Just because we have more trees than you doesn't give us the right to sell you lumber that's cheaper
and better than your own.
I'm sorry we beat you in Olympic hockey.
In our defense I guess our excuse would be that our team was much, much, much, much better than yours.
I'm sorry we burnt down your white house during the war of 1812.
I notice you've rebuilt it! It's Very Nice.
I'm sorry about your beer.
I know we had nothing to do with your beer but, we Feel your Pain.
I'm sorry about our waffling on Iraq.
I mean, when you're going
up against a crazed dictator, you wanna have your friends by your side.
I realize it took more than two years before you guys pitched in against Hitler, but that was different.
Everyone knew he had weapons.
And finally on behalf of all Canadians, I'm sorry that we're constantly apologizing for things in a passive-aggressive way which is really a thinly veiled criticism.
I sincerely hope that you're not upset over this.
We've seen what you do to countries you get upset with.

Thank you.

Re:An American in Germany? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5420889)

As a Canadian, I'd just like to apologies for that poster sucking most of the fun out of that very funny piece by delivering it on slashdot, instead of as it was intended to be seen (on 22 minutes). If you'd like to see it as originally intended, check your favourite filesharing network.

Re:An American in Germany? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5420940)

Humor is humor asswad, It's even funny here in Britan.

Re:An American in Germany? (2, Insightful)

swordgeek (112599) | more than 11 years ago | (#5421013)

Nice reply.

The parent is half right. The apology is funny on its own. The apology as delivered by Rick Mercer is downright hilarious.

Was that really worth calling someone an asswad for?

Re:An American in Germany? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5421023)

In Britain, we spell it humour, and Britain.

Re:An American in Germany? (0)

the eric conspiracy (20178) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420921)

I realize it took more than two years before you guys pitched in against Hitler, but that was different.

Good thing we finally did. What were you going to do? Invade Europe with hockey sticks, softwood lumber and beer?

Re:An American in Germany? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5420963)

Instead of the money the americans extorted out of europe before getting into the war?

Model of a Slashdot Personality (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5420780)

Don't know who wrote this, but they deserve continuous oral sex 'til completion.

to the tune of: "Model of a Modern Major General", with apologies to
Gilbert and Sullivan...

Model of a Slashdot Personality

I am the very model of a Slashdot personality.
I intersperse obscenity with tedious banality.
Addresses I have plenty of, both genuine and ghosted too,
On all the countless topics that my drivel is cross-posted to.
Your bandwidth I will fritter with my whining and my sniveling,
And you're the one who pays the bill, downloading all my driveling.
My enemies are numerous, and no-one would be blaming you
For cracking my head open after I've been rudely flaming you.

I hate to lose an argument (by now I should be used to it).
I wouldn't know a valid point if I was introduced to it.
My learning is extensive but consists of mindless trivia,
Designed to fan my ego, which is larger than Bolivia.
The comments that I vomit forth, disguised as jest and drollery,
Are really just an exercise in unremitting trollery.
I say I'm frank and forthright, but that's merely lies and vanity,
The gibberings of one who's at the limits of his sanity.

If only I could get a life, as many people tell me to;
If only Mom could find a circus freak-show she could sell me to;
If I go off to Zanzibar to paint the local scenery;
If I lose all my fingers in a mishap with machinery;
If I survive to twenty, which is somewhat problematical;
If what I post was more mature, or slightly more grammatical;
If I could learn to spell a bit, and maybe even punctuate;
Would I still be the loathsome and objectionable punk you hate?

But while I have this tiresome urge to prance around and show my face,
It simply isn't safe for normal people here in cyberspace.
To stick me in Old Sparky and turn on the electricity
Would be a fitting punishment for my egocentricity.

I always have the last word; so, with uttermost finality,
That's all from me, the model of a Slashdot personality.

Penis in your mouth (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5420782)

and frosty piss!

Talk to people that live there (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5420784)

They'll know far more about it than anyone on Slashdot. We don't even know where in Germany you'll be.

I do live here (5, Informative)

quizwedge (324481) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420856)

Actually, timothy, I'm an American living in Germany myself. Of course, it depends on where you are planning on living in Germany. I am signed up with freenet.de which has a couple of options. I am on the plan where it costs 89/100 of a euro cent (about 96 / 100 of a U.S. cent) per minute. There is no monthly fee, however, which means to hit the 20 US dollars per month you'd pay, I'd have to be on for about 37.5 hours. That seems to be the cheapest option for dial-up around here. http://www.einsundeins.com seems to have the best DSL rates. The DSL line will cost you about 20 euros per month (about 21.55 USD) and the service depends on what level you choose. Unlimitted is about 25- 30 euros, I've heard (26.94 USD - 32.32 USD), but I'd recommend looking into one of the time based of volume based plans. For me, it'd make more sense to get the 2GB per month plans for 9.90 euros (10.67 USD) as I can download files over the school's flat rate DSL for free, but I'll be leaving Germany in a few months (anyone know of any openings for an intro level tech job in the Moscow, Idaho area? :) ) and so I didn't want to pay an installation fee or anything like that.

Good luck.

Re:I do live here - Moscow, ID (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5420972)

I understand (from the news) there's a website there that has lost it's webmaster...

Re:Talk to people that live there (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5420867)

That's a pretty narrow-minded response. Are you trying to imply that the ONLY people that read slashdot are those that live in the US?

Re:Talk to people that live there (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5420888)

No, rather, I'm implying Germany is a big place. It'd be the same as if someone asked "I'm moving to New Mexico, what are my internet options?" It's going to vary a lot from location to location within that area. Some areas will have DSL and Cable, some will have dialup, some will have wireless, etc.

Re:Talk to people that live there (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5420873)

and you don't think there are people living in germany reading slashdot?

Re:Talk to people that live there (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5420897)

Germany is a large country. They don't have the sames things everywhere in the country. Where he is in Germany will matter.

I do live there too - there being France (2, Interesting)

asarva (520772) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420893)

The scoop on Paris is that the local cableco monopolist is your best source for high speed. I pay about $44/month (about euros40). The company is called Noos -- www.noos.fr Crazy thing is that the transatlantic connection is fast enough for my Vonage [vonagediscount.com] voice-over-IP phone to work perfectly -- that is, the phone dials over IP back to the New Jersey servers, where it gives me a local US phone line. I'd look into that if you want to save on calling chums back in the states.

Re:Talk to people that live there (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5420904)

And most of us don't even know quite where Germany is on a map.

Is it near Germantown? Or, um, Berlin? What is this "Europa" you speak of? Your alien ideas are frightening to me.

Re:Talk to people that live there (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5420933)

Given the population density in Germany, coverage tends to be pretty good everywhere. It's not like the US, where NYC and Montana are rather differently supplied.

Tsarkon Reports: Fucking Goats Asses = /. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5420785)

The Future of SLASHDOT.

2002. Slashdot publishes 1,000,000th rumor passed off as actual story. The story generates 480 comments, 263 of which agree with the article, and 107 of which point out it's a rumor and are modded down as redundant. The remaining comments are all "first posts." or posts that contain any rational insight are modded "troll."

2002. CmdrTaco married to a human female, reports are that she does not have 46 chromosomes, however. Fent does display tendency to retardation.

2002. Slashdot parent corporation VA Research^W Linux^W Software stock worth 35 cents. Rumors that AOL, Microsoft, or even Jimmy the hobo who lives under the Longfellow Bridge may buy it.

2003. VA Software bought by Microsoft for a cup of coffee and a donut. All Microsoft-critical articles mysteriously disappear from Slashdot. Bill Gates as Borg logo replaced with Bill Gates as God. (Taco suggested that in order to be "God," or his vision of God, Gates would have to be seen in a NAMBLA T-shirt. Luckily good taste prevails in favor of the old man image in glowing aura.)

2004. CmdrTaco loses virginity, well, not sex with men virginity, that's long since gone, and not sex with anime blow up dolls, this time, real sex.

2004. The WIPO Troll returns again, showering Slashdot in 45,000 copies of the same post: "Lick my crotch hairs." Slashdot, despite running on 18 redundant IIS/8.0Beta6 servers, buckles under the load. The term "Slashdotted" is replaced with "WIPO-Trolled."

2004. Slashdot officially shut down. Millions of screaming, unwashed geeks invade Redmond campus and lynch Bill Gates.

2005. Linus Torvalds and Anal Cox found dead along with six penguins, a tub of crisco and several used condoms. FreeBSD users are glad the insanity is dying.

2005. CmdrTaco rumored to have had sex again, even with constant Viagra therapy, it took this long. He complains, I can be ready to go again in five minutes if I was looking at a nude man, to the dyslexic Fent.

2006. CowboiKneel found dead in hotel room with 56 pizza boxes covering his bloated corpse. Three suffocated gay prostitutes are extracted from beneath his body as police remove it with a backhoe.

2007. CmdrTaco actually has sex again, this time plugging Fent in the ass for a more manlike feel.

2007. BSD is still officially "dying." No word on when its demise will take place. FreeBSD 9 is delivered in perfect working order in a coherent superior, commercially viable and useable fashion with real documentation, the same practice followed since inception. Linux lunatics, after the death of Cox, are still trying to perfect the Trident driver while ignoring the existence of the GeForce 9. Netcraft dies along with all the surveys they held on Microsoft and Linux servers are lost as well.

2007. CmdrTaco starts new weblog to replace Slashdot, creatively named Dotslash. Remainder of Linux users flock to the site and immediate WIPO-Troll it out of existence.

2007. Box running FreeBSD for 6 years sets world record for Unix uptime on consumer hardware.

2008. CmdrTaco has sex with his wife for the first time without thinking of men. He has dawned on the extra sexual pick me up for his twisted mind, small children.

A long long fucking time from now. Malda, fat, poverty-stricken, unrespected and unremembered and living in an appliance box in Michigan with a pickle jar for a toilet comes to a series of epiphanies. The 8.3 file system that made him truncate his nick to an 8 letter series of characters has long been forgotten, and he finally realizes he looks like a fag using it. He also realizes that men's asses look like tacos, especially with the beef pouring out and that his name sounds more like Commander of Ass, since one can command asses because the belong potentially to sentient or living things, it is difficult to command inanimate objects such as food , so one can only conclude he was commanding ass.

He also realized his site was a lame, fad, he sold out, he needed to refactor his shit code and never did it. He also realized that communites such as Fark don't have this complete asshole running it with gay lameness and compression filters and lame IP blocking bullshit and cheating, pissing and whining and barely anyone trolls it.

We hate you, Fucking Robbie;

he remembers as reams of pages of trolls cry for his expulsion. He also realizes he cant have a computer anymore because he hates the RIAA and MPAA but ran out and gave George Lucas and other shit media companies tons of money to ruin the laws in favor of the omnicorps. He also realizes his socialist and fascist fucking moderation system squelched all the real comments out of view. He also realizes that a full time crew "working" at Slashdot did a shittier job than anyone thought possible.

He also realized he didn't do SHIT for subscribers and punished them as he would anyone else with page limits, IP blocks, compression and lameness filters. He also realizes Signal 11 is a better man than him and that he is a fucking loser for throwing out S11. He realizes despite being an Open Source advocated, his horrible, unusable unreadable pile of shit called Slashcode was one of the worst projects ever. He realized that retarded journalists are better at reporting the news than Slashdot, that Slashdot news was often inaccurate and unverified.

He also realizes that Aprils fools jokes were really stupid and everyone hated them. He realizes bitchslapping, banner ads, ^H and ^W to show deletion and moderation $rtbl are fucking gay and lame. He realizes this all in a flash as the totalitarian regime he was a small part of constructing (through teaching mobocracy, populism as a rule, hordes of untrained and meritless swarms of people allowed to crucify those who would oppose the thinking of the state) determines his body is a waste of government resources and that he needs to be expelled to a concentration area of the worthless. I figures he would have been the first resident in the camp of the beings deemed worthless to society, along with Jon Katz, but the government, even as a fascist totalitarian regime takes a while to getting around to things.


CLITORIS CHOPPERS. Hi there you fucking Islamic career clerics, doctors of death, Waffen Schutzstaffel doctor Josef Mengele is a patron saint compared to you fucking ragheads. You suck. You aide and abet terror and death. You are partially responsible for the deaths of other fellow men. For this fratricide you shall pay dearly. Your soul is black with the stains of inaction, ineptitude and sympathies to those who walk the dark side. Your foul life is full of sins, not religious, just heinous, your karma is low, you don't confess, and you aren't in prison where you belong. You are your own dark, kept secret. I see through you, the worthless academic, the pseudo intellectual, the unproven unpublished un patented WASTE OF FUCKING FLESH. You are a drain on society, you are a member of the 1st world but pretend to not be. I hate you, you are a stained man.

Hi clitoris chopper, ISLAM supports clitoris carving. You are Islamic, and of course are a fucking animal. I hate you you pull-start camel jockey lover. Towelheads, Camel Jockies, Sand Niggers, Ackmids, Abeebs, Carpet Flyers, Dune Coons, Rag Heads, Sand Scratchers, Habeebs, Abba-Dabbas, Camel-Humpers, Demi-niggers, Fig-Gobblers, Hucka-luckas (hucka hlacka ghalcka ghugh), Lefties (If you steal, you lose the right hand so, since they are thieves...) Ocnods, Pull-Start-ables (imagine pull starting Ossama's dirty rag like a Briggs and Stratton), Roach-Ranchers (habibs cant kill roaches by a tenant of Is-slum), Sand Moolies.

Shut up all you dirty fucking Islamic pigfucking swinehundts and the pigs, the communist fuckin Islamic terrorist supporter.

Take your fucking Koran and cram it up your ass. The sooner the earth sees Islam leave it, the better off it will be. Your Koran is Goat Piss.

I hope if there is a God and a Hell, you have to drink the liquidy shit from a Pig's ass, and Jewish Rabbis defecate on you.

I hate the stupid ISLAM fucks who read into the trash they come up with. Saddam Hussein [who needs to take a dirt nap] is higher on my sanity list than fucking Muslim "clerics." In fact, I like Saddam more than most of the other Arab leaders because he is secular. We should fucking nuke the Saudis and Mecca and Medina and turn it into rubble, then tell Saddam to remove the heads of all the buttfucking "royalty" in the area.

I want to wipe my ass with Mohammad's shroud. I want to grind his body up into bone meal and fertilize my garden with it.

Our tortured dead scream out in HORROR, asking for vengeance:
  1. Kill all Camel Jockeys.
  2. Kill all Mohammedans.
  3. Kill all Dune Coons.
  4. Kill all Rag Heads.
  5. Kill all Towelheads.
  6. Kill all Arabs.
  7. Kill all Camel Rooters.
  8. Kill all Osama Bin Laden supporters.

Nuke their countries to hell.

Nuke them again.

Death to Islam.

I piss on Mecca. I wipe my ass with the Koran. I shit upon Mohammed. I wipe the cum for a freshly fucked pussy with Mohammed's shroud then throw it in the pig sty so it can mire in pig shit as it decomposes.

Re:Tsarkon Reports: Fucking Goats Asses = /. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5420956)

Well put! I couldn't have said it better myself. The bit about CmdrTaco's retarded girlfriend is great!

hahaha

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Advice (-1, Troll)

makapuf (412290) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420787)

As an American [...] I'm curious as to what advice/information Slashdot could could people like me

er... Use use the Preview Button ?

Re:Advice (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5420930)

Is there even a preview button when you submit a story? I could check, but I'd rather help maintain the S/N ratio that makes slashdot what it is.

Are you welcome there? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5420795)

Friday's WSJ had an article about how some people in Europe aren't happy to have Americans around.

Re:Are you welcome there? (2, Insightful)

stetsds (567259) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420831)

Don't believe everything you read.
(I assume with Americans you mean US-Americans?)

People over here can (and for the most part do) differentiate between the American people and their government.

However, be prepared for a few heated political discussions... :-)

Re:Are you welcome there? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5420946)

Yeah, they don't like having Americans like Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, or Ashcroft around. Most other Americans are welcome, even the ones from the US.

Niggers are filthy (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5420797)

Rob Malda is a 26-year old white male with a stocky build and a beard. His head is shaved. He responded to my ad to be interviewed for this article wearing only leather pants, leather boots and a leather vest. I could see that both of his nipples were pierced with large-gauge silver rings.

Questioner: I hope you won't be offended if I ask you to prove to me that you're a nullo. Just so that our readers will know that this isn't a fake.

Rob: Sure, no problem. (stands and unbuckles pants and drops them to his ankles, revealing a smooth, shaven crotch with only a thin scar to show where his genitals once were).

Q: Thank you. That's a remarkable sight.

(laughs and pulls pants back up). Most people think so.

Q: What made you decide to become a nullo?

(pauses). Well, it really wasn't entirely my decision.

Q: Excuse me?

The idea wasn't mine. It was my lover's idea.

Q: Please explain what you mean.

Okay, it's a long story. You have to understand my relationship with Michael before you'll know what happened.

Q: We have plenty of time. Please go on.

Both of us were into the leather lifestyle when we met through a personal ad. Michael's ad was very specific: he was looking for someone to completely dominate and modify to his pleasure. In other word, a slave.

The ad intrigued me. I had been in a number of B&D scenes and also some S&M, but I found them unsatisfying because they were all temporary. After the fun was over, everybody went on with life as usual.

I was looking for a complete life change. I wanted to meet someone who would be part of my life forever. Someone who would control me and change me at his whim.

Q: In other words, you're a true masochist.

Oh yes, no doubt about that. I've always been totally passive in my sexual relationships.

Anyway, we met and there was instant chemistry. Michael is a few years older than me and very good looking. Our personalities meshed totally. He's very dominant.

I went back to his place after drinks and had the best sex of my life. That's when I knew I was going to be with Michael for a long, long time.

Q: What sort of things did you two do?

It was very heavy right away. He restrained me and whipped me for quite awhile. He put clamps on my nipples and a ball gag in my mouth. And he hung a ball bag on my sack with some very heavy weights. That bag really bounced around when Michael fucked me from behind.

Q: Ouch.

(laughs) Yeah, no kidding. At first I didn't think I could take the pain, but Michael worked me through it and after awhile I was flying. I was sorry when it was over.

Michael enjoyed it as much as I did. Afterwards he talked about what kind of a commitment I'd have to make if I wanted to stay with him.

Q: What did he say exactly?

Well, besides agreeing to be his slave in every way, I'd have to be ready to be modified. To have my body modified.

Q: Did he explain what he meant by that?

Not specifically, but I got the general idea. I guessed that something like castration might be part of it.

Q: How did that make you feel?

(laughs) I think it would make any guy a little hesitant.

Q: But it didn't stop you from agreeing to Michael's terms?

No it didn't. I was totally hooked on this man. I knew that I was willing to pay any price to be with him.

Anyway, a few days later I moved in with Michael. He gave me the rules right away: I'd have to be naked at all times while we were indoors, except for a leather dog collar that I could never take off. I had to keep my head shaved. And I had to wear a butt plug except when I needed to take a shit or when we were having sex.

I had to sleep on the floor next to his bed. I ate all my food on the floor, too.

The next day he took me to a piercing parlor where he had my nipples done, and a Prince Albert put into the head of my cock.

Q: Heavy stuff.

Yeah, and it got heavier. He used me as a toilet, pissing in my mouth. I had to lick his asshole clean after he took a shit, too. It was all part of a process to break down any sense of individuality I had. After awhile, I wouldn't hesitate to do anything he asked.

Q: Did the sex get rougher?

Oh God, yeah. He started fisting me every time we had sex. But he really started concentrating on my cock and balls, working them over for hours at a time.

He put pins into the head of my cock and into my sack. He attached clothespins up and down my cock and around my sack. The pain was pretty bad. He had to gag me to keep me from screaming.

Q: When did the idea of nullification come up?

Well, it wasn't nullification at first. He started talking about how I needed to make a greater commitment to him, to do something to show that I was dedicated to him for life.

When I asked him what he meant, he said that he wanted to take my balls.

Q: How did you respond?

Not very well at first. I told him that I liked being a man and didn't want to become a eunuch. But he kept at me, and wore me down. He reminded me that I agreed to be modified according to his wishes, and this is what he wanted for me. Anything less would show that I wasn't really committed to the relationship. And besides, I was a total bottom and didn't really need my balls.

It took about a week before I agreed to be castrated. But I wasn't happy about it, believe me.

Q: How did he castrate you?

Michael had a friend who was into the eunuch scene. One night he came over with his bag of toys, and Michael told me that this was it. I was gonna lose my nuts then and there.

Q: Did you think of resisting?

I did for a minute, but deep down I knew there was no way. I just didn't want to lose Michael. I'd rather lose my balls.

Michael's friend restrained me on the living room floor while Michael videotaped us. He used an elastrator to put a band around my sack.

Q: That must have really hurt.

Hell yeah. It's liked getting kicked in the balls over and over again. I screamed for him to cut the band off, but he just kept on going, putting more bands on me. I had four bands around my sack when he finished.

I was rolling around on the floor screaming, while Michael just videotaped me. Eventually, my sack got numb and the pain subsided. I looked between my legs and could see my sack was a dark purple. I knew my balls were dying inside.

Michael and his friend left the room and turned out the light. I lay there for hours, crying because I was turning into a eunuch and there wasn't anything I could do about it.

Q: What happened then?

Eventually I fell asleep from exhaustion. Then the light switched on and I could see Michael's friend kneeling between my legs, touching my sack. I heard him tell Michael that my balls were dead.

Q: How did Michael react?

Very pleased. He bent down and felt around my sack. He said that it felt cold.

Michael's friend told me that I needed to keep the bands on. He said that eventually my balls and sack would dry up and fall off. I just nodded. What else could I do at that point?

Q: Did it happen just like Michael's friend said?

Yeah, a week or so later my package just fell off. Michael put it in a jar of alcohol to preserve it. It's on the table next to his bed.

Q: How did things go after that?

Michael was really loving to me. He kept saying how proud he was of me, how grateful that I had made the commitment to him. He even let me sleep in his bed.

Q: What about the sex?

We waited awhile after my castration, and then took it easy until I was completely healed. At first I was able to get hard, but as the weeks went by my erections began to disappear.

That pleased Michael. He liked fucking me and feeling my limp cock. It made his dominance over me even greater.

Q: When did he start talking about making you a nullo?

A couple of months after he took my nuts. Our sex had gotten to be just as rough as before the castration. He really got off on torturing my cock. Then he started saying stuff like, "Why do you even need this anymore?"

That freaked me out. I always thought that he might someday take my balls, but I never imagined that he'd go all the way. I told him that I wanted to keep my dick.

Q: How did he react to that?

At first he didn't say much. But he kept pushing. Michael said I would look so nice being smooth between my legs. He said my dick was small and never got hard anymore, so what was the point of having it.

But I still resisted. I wanted to keep my cock. I felt like I wouldn't be a man anymore without it.

Q: So how did he get you to agree?

He didn't. He took it against my will.

Q: How did that happen?

We were having sex in the basement, and I was tied up and bent over this wooden bench as he fucked me. Then I heard the doorbell ring. Michael answered it, and he brought this guy into the room.

At first I couldn't see anything because of the way I was tied. But then I felt these hands lift me up and put me on my back. And I could see it was Michael's friend, the guy who took my nuts.

Q: How did you react?

I started screaming and crying, but the guy just gagged me. The two of them dragged me to the other side of the room where they tied me spread eagled on the floor.

Michael's friend snaked a catheter up my dick, and gave me a shot to numb my crotch. I was grateful for that, at least. I remember how bad it hurt to lose my balls.

Q: What was Michael doing at this time?

He was kneeling next to me talking quietly. He said I'd be happy that they were doing this. That it would make our relationship better. That kind of calmed me down. I thought, "Well, maybe it won't be so bad."

Q: How long did the penectomy take?

It took awhile. Some of the penis is inside the body, so he had to dig inside to get all of it. There was a lot of stitching up and stuff. He put my cock in the same jar with my balls. You can even see the Prince Albert sticking out of the head.

Then they made me a new pisshole. It's between my asshole and where my sack used to be. So now I have to squat to piss.

Q: What has life been like since you were nullified?

After I got over the surgery and my anger, things got better. When I healed up, I began to like my smooth look. Michael brought friends over and they all admired it, saying how pretty I looked. It made me feel good that Michael was proud of me.

Q: Do you have any sexual feeling anymore?

Yes, my prostate still responds when Michael fucks me or uses the buttplug. And my nipples are quite sensitive. If Michael plays with them while fucking me, I have a kind of orgasm. It's hard to describe, but it's definitely an orgasm.

Sometimes Michael says he's gonna have my prostate and nipples removed, but he's just kidding around. He's happy with what he's done to me.

Q: So are you glad Michael had you nullified?

Well, I wouldn't say I'm glad. If I could, I'd like to have my cock and balls back. But I know that I'm a nullo forever. So I'm making the best of it.

Michael and I are very happy. I know that he'll take care of me and we'll be together always. I guess losing my manhood was worth it to make that happen for us.

How about.. (4, Interesting)

THEbwana (42694) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420798)

Same question - different country:
- Does anyone know about the connectivity in Jamaica?
I understand you can get ADSL - but is it available everywhere or just in a few areas. Any alternatives to ADSL (I hate using modems)..?

Re:How about.. (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5420868)

With that much weed and hot women, you got time for surfing?

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Credit (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5420800)

Keep a US credit card and drier's license, for when you return! Otherwise, TRW etc. forget who you are!!

German DSL (5, Informative)

peteypooh (465922) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420808)

The Deutsche Telekom [t-online.de] sells flat-rate "T-DSL" for about 55 euros a month. The service is extremely reliable as compared to what I was used to in the states. However, it is a bit of pain to get the parts (three separate boxes) and get it turned on. Get some help from a German-speaking friend or soldier. (as a side bonus, with the flat DSL, you can call the US for 4 cents a minute)

They also sell time-based access cards on post, and on the economy, if you don't want always-on access.

Good luck!

Re:German DSL (1)

quizwedge (324481) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420886)

or you can dial 01081 and get a rate of (currently) 3 euro cents per minute. 01024 sometimes works (not sure the rate) and I've heard 010023 works as well.

comparable rates from US to Germany? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5420914)

Does anybody know of how to get that kind of rate from the US to Germany? US phone companies seem to charge around 13 US cents per minute even with a monthly subscription (!).

Re:comparable rates from US to Germany? (1)

germanbirdman (159018) | more than 11 years ago | (#5421031)

When I was in New Jersey in Winter 2000/2001, I used WorldXchange.

They have great rates, I paid 8 cents per minute, but that was then.

Basically I used mysimon.com to find the cheapeast carrier in my area.

I know from a friend in CA who pays 5cents to Germany.

Note that that it is usually a different rate calling a landline than it is calling a cell phone.

Some carriers still have old agreements, where they are charged the same (which was the case back then with WorldXChange (worldxchange.com), but more and more you now have to pay around 20 for a call to a German cell phone.

Re:German DSL (3, Informative)

peteypooh (465922) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420909)

One more comment, for linux users: You will need to know how to get linux working with the PPP protocol to get "T-DSL" up and running. One good website I've seen is this one [physics.ubc.ca] . Not sure which distributions work with it off the bat, but I know it wasn't too easy for me. The telekom provided directions for getting it to work, but in German unfortunately, and I cannot translate German and linux at the same time yet!

Re:German DSL (1)

daniel23 (605413) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420949)

It was a matter of minutes for me to set up T-DSL on a SuSE

Re:German DSL (5, Informative)

genus babbage (630038) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420917)

>> However, it is a bit of pain to get the parts (three separate boxes)

sounds like you got ISDN too (?). It took me a long time to convince them that I didn't really need T-ISDN in order to get T-DSL; It seems as though a lot of their sales staff don't understand this either, and may not believe you for a while - keep at it - you really don't want ISDN :)

That 55euro tarrif rings a bell r.e. ISDN too; I'm reasonably sure I pay around 49euro, and I don't have ISDN (or the 3 extra boxes you see in most houses - my DSL plugs in the phone socket, as you'd expect).

Note that you buy DSL from your telco, and then an account (which needs to be a DSL account if you want DSL) from your ISP; this is different to the UK, no idea how it compares to USA.

They have a confusing list of available taffifs - you can easily end up paying per minute if you're not careful; flat rate is almost certainly the best option, IMO, unless you have very low useage.

I also think the service is very reliable, and have been happy with them so far (I'm a brit, been here about 7 months now).

Either T-Online or T-DSL drop the line every 24 hours as well, if this is a problem you'll need to check other suppliers.

T-Online is anoying in that it won't let you use a "From" address other than your t-online one (it will replace whatever you put with a long string of numbers at t-online.de; I presume these numbers are my account number or something) - it doesn't strip "reply to", but it's damn anoying. Might be worth checking out other ISPs if this would anoy you too, unless someone here knows a way around this.

Re:German DSL (1)

peteypooh (465922) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420952)

I think you are right about the ISDN part, I'll have to look at that when I get back... unfortunately, starting tomorrow, I'll be looking for access in another, less hospitable place...

but anyway, try this link for the email name question - link [t-online.de] . I got it out of an english-translation for the setup instructions. It will as for your t-online password (a 8 or 10 digit number IIRC), then you should prompted for a user name (all in german of course). Hit "Andern" to accept. (Hadn't tried it myself, I just use yahoo.)

Re:German DSL (1)

Wudbaer (48473) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420965)

You can either define a proper email address under the t-online domain using the t-online Web site (however, I don't know if they offer it in English) or use the T-Online smtp relay server which regrettably costs 2,90 EUR/month since March 1st, 2003 (before it was for free).

But you can also use any other freemail or payed email provider of your choice with T-Online, popular in Germany are GMX and web.de, and certainly the usual suspects like hotmail or AOL.

a message to all my German friends (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5420811)

Dear Brothers and Sisters in Germany,

Let me take this moment to wish you all a very joyful and hearty Heil Hitler !

with Aryan love,

Your American Cousin

You cant do a Google search? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5420815)

Try typing in 'German Broadband' you bum.

Use the web (-1, Flamebait)

/ASCII (86998) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420823)

Sounds like you've never heard of Google [google.com] . Google is a so called search engine, it lets you search millions and millions of websites, looking for pages matching criterions specified by you. If you find it useful, please tell your friends about it, and maybe these search engines will catch on.

Find the local telephone companys and cable companys websites for a start. The find local computer magazines, they ought to have reviews of the local ISPs.

Re:Use the web (2, Insightful)

THEbwana (42694) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420961)

Maybe he doesnt speak German? That was the problem when I moved to Switzerland - I found tons of pages, but it would take me hours to decipher what they meant. I found that the easiest way to get some info was to ask on the LUG groups of zurich, using irc. /m

connectivity seems good (4, Informative)

g4dget (579145) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420828)

From traveling in Germany, my impression is that you are likely to be able to get DSL perhaps more easily than in the US. The computer stores also seemed to have comparable kinds of gadgets, at comparable prices, although technology still tends to be released in the US before Europe (but sometimes it's the other way around). In some technology areas, such as cell phones, Bluetooth, and wireless Internet access, it actually seems a bit better. Dial-up is also very easy, with a choice of no-subscription pay-as-you-go dial-ins and subscriber based services. Again, it seems like more choice than we get in the US.

Re:connectivity seems good (-1, Troll)

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Simple answer. (-1, Redundant)

grub (11606) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420829)


Everyone knows: Google is the Answer to Everything so remember these simple rules:

You use google.com [google.com] in the U.S., use google.de [google.de] whilst in Germany.

Re:Simple answer. (0)

QuMa (19440) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420900)

google.us [google.us]

UK (5, Informative)

cs02rm0 (654673) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420837)

ADSL Guide UK [adslguide.org]

Re:UK (5, Informative)

Doomrat (615771) | more than 11 years ago | (#5421045)

More importantly, in terms of realism regarding UK broadband connectivity:

ADSL-For-Ipswich [adsl-for-ipswich.co.uk] | Barnt Green, Birmingham [broadbandb...reen.co.uk] | Edenbridge, Kent [getedenbridgeadsl.co.uk] | Brinscall, Lancashire [broadband4...call.co.uk] | Chafford Hundred, Grays [ch100broadband.info] | Broxburn/Uphall, Scotland [broadbandbroxburn.co.uk] | New Mills, Stockport [broadband4newmills.co.uk] | Bradford-on-Avon [bradford-on-avon.info] | Antrim, Northern Ireland [adsl4antrim.co.uk] | Paddock Wood, Kent [broadband4paddockwood.tk] | Mossley, Greater Manchester [broadband4mossley.co.uk] | Maltby, Rotherham [broadband4maltby.co.uk] | Cudworth, South Yorkshire [geocities.com] | Pembury, Kent [demon.co.uk] | Telford, Shropshire [broadbandupdate.co.uk] | Totnes, Devon [totnesbroadband.com] | Caister on Sea, Great Yarmouth [cjb.net] | Broadband in the East of England [broadbandbrokerage.com] | Wargrave, Berkshire [wargrave.net] | Alton, Hampshire #1 [alton.org.uk] | Alton, Hampshire #2 [broadbandalton.co.uk] | Frodsham, Cheshire [connect.to] | Atherstone, Warwickshire [broadband4...one.org.uk] | Sleaford, Lincolnshire [adsl4sleaford.co.uk] | Neston, South Wirral [broadband4neston.co.uk] | Blackpool/Fleetwood, Lancashire [broadband4...ool.org.uk] | Colwyn Bay, Wales [broadband4...nbay.co.uk] | Whitby, Yorkshire [btopenworld.com] | Saltcoats/Ardossan/Stevenston, Strathclyde [visitsaltcoats.com] | Thornbury, South Gloucestershire [uk.com] | Dinnington, Sheffield [broadband4...gton.co.uk] | Irby, Wirral [broadband4irby.co.uk] | Colwyn Bay/Old Colwyn/Rhos-On-Sea, North Wales [broadband4...nbay.co.uk] | Hednesford, Staffs [tga4.co.uk] | Connahs Quay/Flint/Mold/Sealand/Queensferry, North Wales [broadband4flintshire.com] | Eastham/Wirrall, Cheshire [broadband4eastham.co.uk] | Worle, North Somerset [broadbandworle.co.uk] | Dereham, Norfolk [broadbanddereham.info] | Leicester Kirby Muxloe, Leicestershire [fsworld.co.uk] | Bolton Westhoughton, Lancashire [westhoughton-adsl.tk] | Leek, Staffordshire [broadband4leek.co.uk] | Ivybridge, Devon [dmsserve.com] | Attleborough, Norfolk [adsl4attleborough.co.uk] | Whaley Bridge, Derbyshire [broadband4...idge.co.uk] | Montrose, Angus, Scotland [ruralstar.com] | Hurstpierpoint, West Sussex [adsl4hurstpierpoint.com] | Worcester/St Johns/Fernhill Heath, Worcester [worcesterb...and.org.uk] | Allerton, Liverpool (and surrounding exchanges) [liverpoolbroadband.com] | Buntingford, North Hertfordshire [www.surf.to] | Glastonbury, Somerset [broadband4...bury.co.uk] | St Budeaux, Devon [dpm.me.uk] | Fenland towns of Ramsey, Yaxley, Whittlesey, Chatteris, Ely and Soham [fenlandbroadband.co.uk] | Grimsby, North East Lincolnshire [broadband4grimsby.co.uk] | Pershore, Worcs [pershore.info] | Yarmouth, Norfolk [broadbandf...outh.co.uk] | Great Oakley, Corby, Northants [adsl4greatoakley.com] | South Woodham Ferrers, Essex [yi.org] | Goring & South Stoke, South Oxfordshire and Streatley & Lower Basildon, West Berkshire [broadband4goring.co.uk] | Kinross & Milnathort, Perthshire [get-adsl-f...oss.org.uk] | Bolsover, Derbyshire [adsl4bolsover.co.uk] | Elton, Ince and Helsby in Cheshire [broadband4helsby.co.uk] | Hanwell/Horley/Wroxton/Balscote/North Newington/Drayton, Oxfordshire [broadband4wroxton.org.uk] | Tonyrefail/Gilfach Goch and surrounding area, Mid Glamorgan [tonyrefail.net] | Rotherfield Greys/Rotherfield Peppard/Shepherds Green, Oxfordshire [broadband4...eld.org.uk] | Heath Hayes, Staffordshire [heathhayes.net] | Hednesford, Staffordshire [adsl4hednesford.co.uk] | Chipping Norton, Oxfordshire [broadbandchippy.net] | Adderbury (Nr. Banbury), Oxfordshire [adderbury.net] | Lydney, Gloucestershire [broadband4lydney.co.uk] | Knaresborough, North Yorkshire [broadband4...ough.co.uk] | Saltburn-By-The-Sea, Cleveland [btinternet.com] | Hebden Bridge, West Yorkshire [hebdenbridge.co.uk] | Churchdown, Gloucestershire [broadband4...down.co.uk]

From an european (-1, Troll)

Isbiten (597220) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420839)

xDSL is availble every where in european since there alot of people living here

Simple huh :)

Deutsche Telekom (5, Informative)

igotmybfg (525391) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420844)

The best deal for DSL seems to be from Deutsche Telekom. They have several different rate plans, so make sure you pick the flate rate one. It's like 25E/month. You'll probably get screwed anyway, b/c Telekom is basically the worst company on Earth. Instead of help and courtesy, you get insults and insolence. So be prepared. Also, if you want to get a mobile phone, make sure you get service from Vodafone, (aka D2/Arcor/Mannesman) not Telekom. Vodafone's cheaper, has better coverage, and is a multinational carrier, although you usually don't have any problems with that in Europe. Cheers!

Re:Deutsche Telekom (1)

moonbender (547943) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420898)

Considering how many cell phone services providers DTAG has bought in the past few years, they're most certainly a multinational carrier, too ...

Re:Deutsche Telekom (5, Informative)

FeloniousPunk (591389) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420943)

This needs to be emphasized more. I have never in my entire life had dealings with a worse pack of surly incompetents than Deutsche Telekom. They are utterly unreliable and chances are you are going to get plenty of overcharged bills and dealing with their customer service is harrowing, even if you speak fluent German. The only positive thing I have to say about them is that I got a free DSL modem from them as part of a promotion.
I left Germany from the States in November and cancelled my phone and DSL service before I left. Yesterday in the mail I get a bill from them for February. Ah, Telekom.
You have to deal with them to get the DSL line, but you should look into getting a different ISP. Depending on where you live, there are other broadband ISPs. Since your e-mail address is af.mil, I'm betting that you're off to Ramstein. That's not so good, as the only other choice is AOL.de. You have to live in the bigger cities to have a choice.
I second igotmybfg's recommendation on cell phones - I had Vodafone D2 and was pleased with them. In fact, I like them better than my current US carrier, Verizon.
Sorry to say, but you'll be pining for your Cox.net cable broadband in no time.

Re:Deutsche Telekom (1)

germanbirdman (159018) | more than 11 years ago | (#5421043)

It is true that the German Telekom sometimes takes 3 attempts to get things right :-(
Old former monopolist.

But in 90% of Germany, you simply have no other choice :-(
And they are getting a lot better.

My advice (2, Redundant)

$$$exy Gwen Stefani (654447) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420849)

As an American who is going to be living overseas for a few years (Germany, to be more exact), I'm curious as to what advice/information Slashdot could provide people like me.

My advice is this: don't go.

I have a close friend who got fed up with the constant state of (declining) flux here in the American technology job market. He'd had enough and figured to jump ship (no pun intended) and head over to Germany because everyone always said how nice Europe, especially Germany, was to work and live.

Unfortunately, he soon found out that meager pay (relative to the cost of living) was very common, and bad benefits were even more common. He was pulling in barely $32,000 USD per year and was living week to week trying to get by paying bills and taking care of his wife and baby girl.

I would advise you to please consider staying home. "The grass is always greener on the other side" as the popular saying goes. In this case, it firmly holds true.

Re:My advice (1)

igotmybfg (525391) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420870)

Well, you have to spend money to make money. While it is true that the cost of living in Europe is higher, you have to understand that you need different things to live in Europe vs. living in America. In Europe, you probably don't need a car - public transportation is basically ubiquitous. Also if you're moving overseas, it's a better idea to maybe stay with some friends, or just go by yourself and then send for your wife or whatever, once you're all set up.

Re:My advice (1, Interesting)

Avakado (520285) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420925)

Best places to live in the world (according to the UN):

1. Norway
2. Australia
3. Canada
4. Sweden
5. Belgium
6. United States
7. Iceland
8. Netherlands
9. Japan
10. Finland
11. Switzerland
12. Luxembourg
13. France
14. UK
15. Denmark
16. Austria
17. Germany
18. Ireland
19. New Zealand
20. Italy

good internet in germany (5, Informative)

Dylan2000 (592069) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420859)

I pay (I think) around 30 euros per month for 768/128 ADSL flatrate. I'm only not sure how much cause my girlfriend takes care of all of that stuff since I'm far too important (and it's all too complicated for me cause I'm also too dumb).

check out T-DSL [t-dsl.de] , the service offered by the German Telekom, which is the phone company and also the biggest ISP. We got our cable modem thrown in for free when we signed up, don't know if they'll still give you that and they gave us a good price on a router/ISDN system/hub/ISDN modem/USB NIC wonderbox bursting with flashing lights too.

The german might be a problem when filling out the forms but most of the support people on the phone will be able to speak english

You'll want to be running SuSE (5, Informative)

earthforce_1 (454968) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420862)

This much I know. They have some built in ready to run config scripts for most German ISPs, including dial-up, cable and DSL. (From a somebody which runs SuSE on their server) Too bad they were useless to me, as I live in Canada.

In Soviet Russia... (-1)

-1bynextweek (642604) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420864)

Americans asking stupid questions live overseas!!!

You have just entered room "Fat cock." 1 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5420866)

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Broadband in UK (3, Informative)

Boss, Pointy Haired (537010) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420874)

ADSL where available [bt.com] either direct from BT [bt.com] or [clara.net] several [freeserve.com] resellers [demon.net] (there are loads more). 512 down / 128 up costs about GBP 30.00 / month give or take.

There are two major cable operators in the uk, ntl: [askntl.com] and Telewest [telewest.co.uk] . Both offer cable modem in almost all areas of their networks for about GBP 25.00 / month for 512 and 40.00 / month for 1M.

ntl couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery [nthellworld.com] .

Who cares? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5421047)

Who cares about the UK? We are talking about Germany...

Re:Broadband in UK (1)

farnz (625056) | more than 11 years ago | (#5421051)

Just to nitpick; as ADSLGuide.org.uk [adslguide.org.uk] makes clear, UK DSL is 512k down, 256k up for the home service (theoretical 50:1 contention, although I've never seen it here on a DSL line in Durham). Business services are 512k, 1M or 2M down, 256k up, at a theoretical 20:1 contention. They did trial ADSL services with higher uplinks, but never released them.

what are you talking about? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5420876)

Dude, I don't know what you've been reading/smoking, but no one hates Americans in Germany. There are a lot of people who strongly dislike the policies of the current Bush administration (and/or previous administrations), but that is not the same at all as hating Americans. And btw, you will also find a considerable amount of people in Germany who fully agree with Bush's policies and who disagree with their own governments' stance on that issue (even though they probably get hardly any coverage in the US). An anonymous German in exile in Britain ;-) (I've been waiting for my new account's password to be mailed to me, but the mail just doesn't seem to come through).

Re:what are you talking about? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5421029)

Maybe you don't hate americans, but there are countless of us who have had it with all that overbearing noise and misplaced ego. It's especially fun when they, upon hearing any sentiment that doesn't wave the u.s flag, start in with how they "could nuke [fill in country] back to the stone age," while the u.s education system becomes more of a laughingstock virtually every day. Nothing like having those priorities together. Hate is a pretty strong word, but there are a whole host of really good reasons why usians wear other flags while travelling.

Italy: 10Mbit optical fiber for $70/mo (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5420878)

If you live Italy, in one of the following cities:
Milan and province, Rome, Turin, Bologna, Naples and Genoa, thanks to FastWeb [fastweb.it] you can get 10Mbit optical fiber Internet access for about $70/mo (67 euros/mo).

Quite cheap and works like a charm :-)

Germany: (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5420890)

Over here in Germany, connectivity is actually no real problem:

Wired:
- Analoge and Digital (ISDN) lines, while ISDN is much more popular nowadays. Deutsche Telekom provides most of the normal telephone connections. Visit http://www.telekom.de . Prices for a regular ISDN line are about 25/$ a month for 2 phone lines with a total of 3 phone numbers. Setup is around 50/$.
- ADSL is a widely available option for either analoge or digital phonelines. Deutsche Telekom provides an ADSL-line for about 10 a month on top of your phonebill.
- Flatrates for ADSL are around 20-30 on top of the phonebill which already includes the charge for your ADSL-line.

Wireless:
-WLAN hotspots are coming up everywhere in big and small cities since some months. It's quite amazing how many nodes you can find within a day of WarDriving around Frankfurt, i.e.
-CellServices provide almost a complete coverage of the whole country. GPRS is widely available but still a little on the pricy side: 5cent for 10kb with my cell-provider "O2". Cell rates are usually 10-20 a month, calling-costs not included (average bill around 50 , if you don't hug the phone 24/7)

Hope this helps.

To get into much more detail visit:

http://www.billiger-surfen.de (cheaper-surfing)
http://www.onlinekosten.de (onlinecost)
http://www.mobileaccess.de
http://w ww.telekom.de
http://www.heise.de

or go

http://www.google.de

and help yourself. ;-)

enjoy germany!

-benny

Pretty good. (1)

Martigan80 (305400) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420895)

You will get pretty damn good pricing, if you go to the right area that offers it. Down here in Italy we have to wait for the Phone company to decide if they want to install it or not. I know around Frankfurt you can get a 100k connection for around 18 Euros.

Second Thought (1)

Martigan80 (305400) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420911)

Since your in the AF or work for them, why not ask your sponser? I'm sure they would have that info and if not the local housing office will.

Some Info (5, Informative)

germanbirdman (159018) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420913)

OK,

When you get a phone, get at from the Deutsche Telekom and not from any other local carrier.
Why? Their rates might suck, but only if you use Deutsche Telekom can you use ALL call by call carriers which are billed by the normal telephone bill. The majority you can use without registering at the other phone company, so basically you check out which operator is the cheapest for a call, pick up the phone, and dial.

Calls to the US start at 4 cents per minute using Call by Call.

To check the cheapest rate and which call by caller operator to use, checkout www.teltarif.de

ISDN phone lines are very popular over here, you can get a special rate that calls on Sunday are free within Germany. These can also be used to call up an internet provider with "normal" telephone number. www.teltarif.de also has a list of these which you can use together with usernames/password.

Local phone calls are NOT free.

Internet dialup you also usually use call by call ones. Check out www.billiger-surfen.de to find out which operator is cheapest. Cheap ones start like 1 cent per minute. That's about the best rate you can get.

Flatrates for internet dialups do not exist.

Broadband:

DSL is the way to go, you need to get the DSL line from the Deutsche Telekom. And in addition to that, you must subscribe to an Online service, either the Deutsche Telekom's own (T-Online) where a 768kbit down/128kbit up costs 29.99 Euros per month with no limit regarding time or bandwidth. Note that this flatrate is not available if you use the 1500up/192kdown service. 1und1 (www.1und1.de) has better deals if you have less traffic.

Basically, for an ISDN telephone with the calls free on Sunday plus DSL 768Kbit, you would pay 41.27 Euros a month. Add to that the online rate (29,99 for t-online dsl flat)

If you sign up at 1und1.de you get a free USB DSL Modem, for 9.95 you get an ISDN telephone switch to which you can connect analogue phones to, and they pass on your request to the Deutsche Telekom. You also have to pay a setup fee, which is charged by the Deutsche Telekom, but doing it with 1und1 currently offers the best deal.

Hope this helps.

Re:Some Info (1)

germanbirdman (159018) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420938)

2.9 cents/minute cheapest carrier to the USA currently.

Prices change all the time.

Broadband Reports (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5420920)

Broadband Reports [broadbandreports.com] Specifically their forums [broadbandreports.com] and more specifically the international section [broadbandreports.com] of their forums

As someone who's done this recently ... (2, Informative)

torpor (458) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420928)

I'm an Australian who lived in America for most of my life and there became a bandwidth junkie, but now I live in Germany.

The transition has been totally smooth. German Deutsche-Telekom sell flat-rate DSL, and it's pretty good in my region - at least as good as what I was used to in LA.

There is less after-market competition - i.e. small regional ISP's, but some parts of Germany have good regional nets. Not really here in the Ruhr, my understanding is that its mostly DT.

cheap calls back to usa (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5420932)

Almost certainly not relevant, but you can call the USA from the UK for the price of a local call, if you use this dialthrough (also many other countries):

08452 445 445

http://www.telediscount.co.uk

Japan (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5420944)

Just got home from there, and connectivity is nice. Heck, even the mobile phones can get 384k and videoconference.

Serious Answer (4, Informative)

tigersha (151319) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420947)

Geez Louise,

This thread is really getting on me ninnies...

Anyways, I live as an expat in Germany. DSL is trivial to get, try Deutsche Telekom although I do not not know if they are exactly the cheapest.

There is a website that contains a list of all the
German DSL providers (there are loads) but it is in German. Google for it (try DSL Deutschland). 768/128 DSL is available almost anywhere, and some providers (yahoo) does 1500 as well.

As far a cellphones are concerned the service is very good, but do yourself a favour and get a contract from Viag Interkom (now O2). They are the best, especially with their Genion at Home thingie. That is quite cheap.

It is possible to dial fairly cheap. www.billigtelefonieren.de should give you all the details you want on that, again, in German. You usually dial with a prefix code to get the different providers.

If you do not want to go DSL, ISDN is very much more wide-spread and cheap than in the US and pay-per call may be mucho cheaper than a DSL, depending on how much you are online. Now that DSL is getting very popular you can get cheapo ISDN cards second hand. ISDN is pretty OK for most things anywa, and with it you can call for free on Sundays for a few Euros per month extra.

Telekom does take a few weeks to install DSL due to a serious demand-driven backlog (and the !"!"ers do NOT tell you that they have done it, you have to try to see if it works!) but ISDN install is fairly quick (2 days in my case)

Telekom has been banned as of last year to give away DSL modems for free (it was stifling competition) so now you have to pay, a small DSL box with a router with 4 ports that can do masquerading and set with a web box is available for about 70 Euros, and one with a wireless port as well for about 200 (At media markt). I picked up an old Pentium 100 for 25 euros and Linux it and put up a ethernet card and a hub to use as a DSL router behind Deutsche Telekom DSL, works fine but at that time the routers were still expensive so a crouter is probably the cheapets way to go.

You can also get a hosted server (a complete Linux box with full root control) for 39 Euros per month.

Computers are generally more expensive than in the states but not too much. You can pretty much find everything you need, try www.arlt.com to get a feel for prices. (I buy there, do not work for them).

If you wish to know more, drop my a line on my home page.

Prices (1)

Knuckles (8964) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420955)

Last I looked (9 months ago) you had to add ~30 EUR/mon for a fixed network phone to Deutsche Telekom's price of ~55 p. month for flat rate ADSL (768 up IIRC, may be 1024 now), because they only sold it together with that.
Ping times in Telekom's network have been notoriously bad, though that may get better. Service is terrible.
QSC has ADSL (1024 up) for ~80 EUR/mon (flat rate) with fast pings. This includes no news server and only 1 email address though. Then there is Arcor and lots of local network providers, prices don't differ much I think, service may

Re:Prices (3, Informative)

germanbirdman (159018) | more than 11 years ago | (#5421019)

Many are complaining that ping times are bad in the telekom DSL network, that is because they do not use fastpath.

But downloads are pretty speedy. Mostly you do get to download at 80K/second which I think is quite nice.

Ping time to a cable modem in PA in the US from my German DSL connection is about 140ms.

(Another) Same Question... Different Country... (1)

thecampbeln (457432) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420958)

I too am an American going to live abroad, but in Canberra, Australia. How much for DSL? Who should I get it thru? And whgat the hell is the deal with metered accounts there?!? Everyplace I've been able to find thus far allows 500megs a month for a reasonable rate, then gouges you to high hell for anything over that!? What gives! Oh yea, and thanks!

Re:(Another) Same Question... Different Country... (1)

HuguesT (84078) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420970)

DSL is a disaster area in Australia, at least in Sydney where I live. You'll want to check cable prices when you get there.

Re:(Another) Same Question... Different Country... (1)

crimsontiger6 (559189) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420984)

Its good here and I live in the sticks, maybe its because we have an Army and Airforce base here

Re:(Another) Same Question... Different Country... (1)

crimsontiger6 (559189) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420974)

I pay about $50 US a month and have a 5 gig cap. I've got ADLS 128 upload 512 download. I'm with iprimus and have only experienced one or two problems in about 6 months.

Re:(Another) Same Question... Different Country... (1)

nukem1999 (142700) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420976)

While I've never been there myself, one guy I know in Canberra says broadband is a joke. Expect to be sucking it on down through dialup.

Re:(Another) Same Question... Different Country... (1)

crimsontiger6 (559189) | more than 11 years ago | (#5421006)

Yeah right, troll

Try looking here (3, Informative)

Hecatonchires (231908) | more than 11 years ago | (#5421016)

http://www.broadbandchoice.com.au/

It is a subsite of http://www.whirlpool.net.au/
Whirlpool was originally a user bitch forum for Telstra Bigpond, but expanded to cover most of Australia's broadbnad ISP's. The forums at whirlpool are a good measure of customer satisfaction.

Stay away from Telstra - they prefer to use a sandpaper condom on their phallus.

Here's an idea, stay off the Internet! (1, Offtopic)

Microsift (223381) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420981)

Man, you're going to Europe, and your big question is how do I stay connected? Here's some better advice

Visit the Champagne region in France, the caves are incredible

Go to Paris and visit the Louvre and the Jeu de Pomme, and the L'Orangerie, and the Musee D'Orsay and the Pompidoux, and probably a hundred other museums

Go to Munich and visit the Science museum there.

If you're in Strasbourg, go eat a Tarte Flambee

Soak in the culture, don't waste your time online!

Just my two centimes

Re:Here's an idea, stay off the Internet! (1)

Gothmolly (148874) | more than 11 years ago | (#5421017)

Culture? You mean the yogurt.

Re:Here's an idea, stay off the Internet! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5421049)

Wow a science Mu-sea-um, we sure don't got those round these parts!

Broadband or Autobahn (4, Funny)

PSL (519746) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420983)

Forget broadband... rent a nice MB/BMW/Audi and hit the fastest roads in the world.

Re:Broadband or Autobahn (0)

crimsontiger6 (559189) | more than 11 years ago | (#5421018)

Forget Audi, go for a BMW M3 or any Mercedes SL

1.5 MBit/s for $68 / month (1)

PatSmarty (135304) | more than 11 years ago | (#5420992)

Arcor is pretty nice, they have ADSL going for ?68, which is roughly $68. Here's more [arcor.net] (german page).

Broadband (1)

payndz (589033) | more than 11 years ago | (#5421022)

UK cable unlimited broadband (128K) via NTL - £15 a month, compared to £10 pm for 56K dial-up. Not the fastest around, but since I'm not spending 24 hours a day downloading movies, I can live with it!

Any leads for Costa Rica? (1)

unorthod0x (263821) | more than 11 years ago | (#5421033)

What is the connectivity situation in Costa Rica?

Waht about Japan? (1)

hoser (95281) | more than 11 years ago | (#5421034)

I'll be moving to Japan -- probably Tokyo -- in the fall and will also be looking for a broadband connection. What are the services like over there? Any good (English) websites on ISPs in Japan someone can recommend?

I don't know if this matters or not, but I'll probably be using a Mac laptop by then. Will that be a problem over there in terms of internet access?

On a related note, does anyone know about what wireless coverage is like in Tokyo? I wonder if it would be worth getting an AirPort card.

More general advice (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5421037)

Keep your American status as low-key as possible. People will obviously be able to tell that you're from the US or Canada (or at least SOME english speaking country), but people are generally willing to accept you as a good (or bad) person regardless of your home, unless you make comments about how "America is saving the world."

Think this post is stupid? I've seen it happen too often. While wandering through the streets of Paris, I heard an American traveller comment to her husband about how "these people can't even get a Big Mac right!" Other countries have the same problem with their citizens abroad (England is a close second, Germany third in my opinion) but the US has a reputation for it and people will NOT give you a second chance if you make an arrogant comment.

Aside from that, have fun and soak up the culture.

Just tell them (0, Offtopic)

Snaller (147050) | more than 11 years ago | (#5421052)

..you are american and Bush will invade their country if they are not nice to you. They'll probably believe it ;)
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