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The t68i Replacement is Here

CmdrTaco posted more than 11 years ago | from the phones-to-lust-after dept.

Hardware 432

interdigitate writes "The new T610 was been unveiled today by Sony Ericsson. This is the t68i replacement and its supposed to improve on it in every aspect. It has a 16bit color screen, Polyphonic ringtones, a built in digital camera, GPRS, Bluetooth (ofcourse), and most importantly it has Synchronization which should mean it will work with apple's iSync! " So... pretty. Must... resist.

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TROLL TUESDAY, BITCHES! (-1)

I VOMIT ON FAILURES! (652124) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432578)

Do I have to vomit on myself?

WHO CARES ABOUT APPLES ISYNC (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5432753)

1) Its not open sores.
2) It doesnt run linux.
3) Its Apple and its very overpriced and slow.
4) IsYnC sucks my balls.
5) How about a beowulf cluster of them?
6) Dont mod me up.

siiick... (1)

ludeyork (571198) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432585)

I wonder how long it will be before AT&T makes this phone available...

very gay - for faggots only (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5432589)

Read no further if you are normal. This story is for butt pirates only.

That is all.

Unfortunately... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5432592)

The telephone aspect of the phone had to be removed to save space.

Re:Unfortunately... (3, Insightful)

McWilde (643703) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432738)

Yeah, I was wondering how polyphonic ringtones, a built-in camera and 16 bit color display are "supposed to improve" a telephone. For me if it goes [BEEP] it's probably someone trying to reach me, I can read their name or number in black and white just fine. If I have nothing better to do I'll pick up and talk to them.

Re:Unfortunately... (1)

lc_overlord (563906) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432829)

Figures, but what the heck, nobody ever calls me anyway. It just feels nice to have something totaly useless that costs to much in the pocket.

Read the specs (5, Interesting)

rf0 (159958) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432593)

Looking at the Specs [sonyericsson.com] half way down there is apparently DRM (Digital Rights Management). Does this mean that I can't have WAV's as ringtones now? :P

Rus

Re:Read the specs (5, Insightful)

Sheetrock (152993) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432642)

By DRM, I think they're referring to the protection on a user profile of files (not that you'd store many on here), messaging ID, and e-mail account. It probably implements enough of their DRM API to sync with things like Palladium when it comes out later to sufficiently protect a computer sync of the phone's databases over infrared (assuming that's an addon to this model) as well.

It's a good thing in this context.

Re:Read the specs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5432754)

Wow, sounds like the 'lect property people are now making up uses for DRM to entice the consumer to his death. Sure, sure infrared transmissions are in such danger of being intercepted. You see, that's why we have DRM, ma'm, to protect you and your loved ones address book against the underpants gnomes which hide between your phone and the infrared connection on the syncing computer. Pay no attention to that loss of fair use. Your ring tone royalty payment will only be $.10 per incoming call. What a steal!!

Re:Read the specs (5, Insightful)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432806)

DRM isnt an evil term. You've read too much slashdot.

When you use a password on an secure connection to your banks website to transfer funds, that's a form of DRM.

Putting a BIOS password on your own machine so noone but you can boot it up, is DRM.

You have digital stuff, you have rights to it, you want a way to manage access to it, that's DRM - Digital Rights Management.

The problem isnt the fact that stuff can be secured, the problem is the question of ownership. The RIAA/MPAA members think they own the songs on the CD you bought. MSFT thinks it owns all the IP on your desktop, etc.

It's not the technology at fault, it's the IP system and the many vague definitions of 'ownership'.

Saying DRM is evil or wrong is like saying "ping" is a hacking tool.

Re:Read the specs (1)

bumby (589283) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432673)

If you want wave's as ringtones, buy a sony cmd-j5. It's cheap too :) It's not exactly wave's, but you can record 5*10 seconds with the internal mic, and use as ringtones. I have had lots of fun with it ;)

*ring ring* PICK UP THAT DAMN PHONE!!! *ring ring* [loop]

Re:Read the specs (3, Interesting)

b96miata (620163) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432741)

Or you could get any phone from sprint that supports pcs vision [pcsvision.com] . Qualcomm makes a free tool [cdmatech.com] to convert wav's into ringers you can download right to your phone (they're bigger than midi ringers of course) Anyone who's into cool new phones and wants a service that won't charge you an arm and several legs for data use should check out the above. I don't wanna count the hundreds of dollars I'd owe if I'd used the same amount of data on at&t's network that I have on my $10 unlimited data plan.

But... (5, Interesting)

Kshu (608394) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432594)

How about a model that lets you chat via IRC? That one I'll buy for sure.

Re:But... (2, Insightful)

emir (111909) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432709)

well just buy any java enabled phone out on market and download irc client.... it might be wise to buy java phone with gprs as without gprs your phone bill will probably ruin you.....

Re:But... (3, Interesting)

horza (87255) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432771)

With the size of the screen, and the speed of typing on a numeric keypad, it doesn't sound useful for IRC except in the deadest of channels. Even with a normal monitor the text flies off the screen in around a second when the conversation gets heated. If you are really such a masochist, I guess you can load in a Java applet that tunnels over port 80 to a gateway you are running at home.

Phillip.

it has J2ME (Re:But...) (2, Informative)

alch (30445) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432775)

Hey - it has J2ME !! You can write it yourself !!

J2ME gives you control over some SMS aspects, the GPRS data channels. If you want an example - head over to http://www.wireless-village.org to how they implement some of this over the SMS channel.

First HP post! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5432595)

rpn rules, you fags.

Swell.... (1)

imac.usr (58845) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432596)

.... and it'll only be offered with a 2-year contract, which doesn't guarantee I get to keep my number or even my phone if I switch to another plan, and requires me to jump through all kinds of hoops to get the features and rates I want, plus requires me to pay for incoming *and* outgoing calls, and that's not even counting the lousy service coverage once you go fifteen miles outside a major city....

I'd love to replace my landline with a cell phone, but not until the U.S. catches up to the rest of the world in service.

Re:Swell.... (1)

binaryDigit (557647) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432675)

Well AT&T has a reasonable hardware upgrade policy. We just upgraded my wife to gsm and got the same price on the phone as we would have if I had purchased it and a plan from scratch. So now she has a new phone with a better calling plan and her same old number with a one year contract, a pretty good deal if you ask me.

Re:Swell.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5432703)

and man does that new phone work fine! I just called your wife and phone sex is better than ever was :)

Re:Swell.... (3, Funny)

binaryDigit (557647) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432769)

and man does that new phone work fine! I just called your wife and phone sex is better than ever was :)

Well luckily for you they increased the size of the microphone hole another .5mm to allow for your increased sexual satisfaction.

Re:Swell.... (1)

steelerguy (172075) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432680)

As long as you get a phone that works at home you at least have the functionality of your land line...I mean your land line is not going to help you much 15 miles outside a major city.

Even with the crappy coverage it is still pretty painless to go completely wireless as long as you find out the best provider in the area you live in.

For Troll Tuesday.. (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5432599)

CmdrTaco, Just Shut Up!!!!!!!

Silent is good (5, Insightful)

cindik (650476) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432603)

I'm very happy to see more wireless communications which don't require people to be chattering all the time. If they're too bored to watch the movie, participate in church, watch the play, etc., now they can busy themselves silently.

OTOH, is this going to be banned from theaters and other venues where cameras are prohibited? At what point do we end up with unenforceable "no camera" rules?

Re:Silent is good (1)

binaryDigit (557647) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432706)

At what point do we end up with unenforceable "no camera" rules

With the slim size of modern digital cameras, any no camera rules are pretty much unenforceable anyway (at least proactively). We were just at a kids show that had a no camera rule during the performance (good luck trying to get parents to keep the cameras at home when the kiddies are involved). Several people insisted on taking snaps during the performance. During the intermission their cameras were taken away. We had our Sony (boo, hiss, evil) DCR-PC120 and could have easily recorded the entire show had we wanted to.

Re:Silent is good (4, Informative)

Hal-9001 (43188) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432779)

At what point do we end up with unenforceable "no camera" rules?
Forget about unenforcable--most "no camera" rules are rubbish. I can understand "no flash photography" because the flash damages ancient artwork or distracts performers, but passive recording of an image causes no real harm. The only damage that could result from passive photography is the dilution of intellectual property, but that is an abstract, socially-constructed danger--there is no real damage to property or safety.

It looks kinda big. (1)

BgJonson79 (129962) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432604)

I can see it now:

Is that a T610 in your pocket or are you happy to see me?

Re:It looks kinda big. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5432645)

Its not big... its the same size as a T68i. Its a very sleek phone, check one out. The screen is amazing!

Re:It looks kinda big. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5432684)

When all you have is a 3-inch hammer, everything looks big

please please please (5, Insightful)

rhs98 (513802) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432607)

I have a t68, and hope to god they have fixed the awful speed of the predictive text messaging. It is truly slow, and not much difference if any from the t68i.

Here's hoping

Re:please please please (4, Informative)

Darren Winsper (136155) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432843)

I found there was a considerable difference in the T68i version. The T68 was intollerable, but the T68i is just fine for me.

Finally! (3, Interesting)

Mindjiver (71) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432611)

Finally a decent phone from Sony-Ericsson. Hopefully this will help to stop Ericsson from bleeding to death.

Too bad I can't afford this. But maybe it's just as good as I would just destroy it after too much beer.. =)

LOOK AT THIS! IT'S UNBELIEVABLE! (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5432628)

I herewith declare you the person with the lowest ID I've ever seen!

Um, I think you mean I.Q. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5432735)

Now who's the dumbass?

Java! Finally! (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5432613)

Lack of java midlets was only thing to make me go Nokia last time. BTW T68i was nicer looking than this one.

Maybe now I wont get the Siemens sx-56 (1)

wwwssabbsdotcom (604349) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432616)

I miss having my IPAQ with CDPD on it, but $54 a month from AT&T was just too much. AT&T with the siemens I beleive is $29 for the phone, and $39 for the data portion of the bill. I'll have to look into it, and since its not running Palm (from what Im reading), I might seriously consider it.

Verizon (2, Insightful)

walt15 (154554) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432619)

But what I want to know is why I can't use it with my verizon service. Everyone I talk to says none of the ericson(sp) phones are not compatible with the network here in MI.

Re:Verizon (4, Informative)

Smitty825 (114634) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432785)

Verizon (and Sprint) uses a different network standard (called CDMA) than AT&T (and Cingular/T-Mobile) do (GSM). To avoid a vi/emacs level flame war, let's not discuss which one is better :-)

There is a model very similiar that is coming out for Sprint (and other CDMA providers). It looks the same, but it doesn't include the built in Camera. It does have bluetooth, though. It is called the T608.

Verizon has quasi-announced that they aren't going to be supporting any new bluetooth phones, until they can charge for the data transfered between the phone and the external device (according to a Verizon Insider on HowardForums.) They get there own version of this phone called the T606, which supports BREW, but does not have the built in camera or bluetooth support.

If you go to Phone Scoop [phonescoop.com] , they have pretty informative pieces on each of these phones...plus a giant preview of all of Sony Ericssons new phones!

Re:Verizon (1)

alch (30445) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432823)

Verizon uses CDMA technology ... most of the new ericsson phones (Noka as well) are GSM/GPRS for "the larger market" (GSM: 100's of million of users, CDMA: 10's of millions ).

I also think the SIM cards help in user adoption - ie: I can easily switch phones WITHOUT asking the phone company. I have 3 phones - a business phone, a fun phone, a basc phone - changing from one to another is as simple as pulling out a card and placing it in the new phone.

Dammit! (1)

mschoolbus (627182) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432622)

I should have waiting on my Sony Ericsson i300 picture phone (or whatever model it is)...

Wow! 2Mb! (5, Funny)

Joel Rowbottom (89350) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432623)

Wow! Up to 2mb of memory available! I almost wet myself, I could store almost two floppy disks on there!

(oh, wait...)

Re:Wow! 2Mb! (1)

rf0 (159958) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432649)

Wonder how many pictures that is? I can get about 30
on my 7650 (shared with other apps admitally). Least with the P800 you can upgrade the memory

rus

The Reason For Releasing It At This Time (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5432626)

They are only releasing this because I bought a T68i last week! The tech equivalent of washing your car to bring on the rain...

synching (1)

Erwos (553607) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432630)

Sure, it works with isync... But does it work with multisync?
http://multisync.sf.net

-Erwos

Polyphonic ringtones (3, Insightful)

BWJones (18351) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432631)

Please!!!! No more ringtones. How many more versions of electronic renditions of Beethovens 9th do we have to listen to ?

Re:Polyphonic ringtones (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5432800)

That's why my phone plays the Super Mario Bros theme. Sounds just like the original.

this is why S-E is so far in front of Nokia (4, Interesting)

hype7 (239530) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432634)

The thing I love about Sony-Ericsson, and the reason why I will continue to buy their phones over Nokia's which I otherwise prefer to use, boils down to this:

Bluetooth.

S-E are putting it in a lot of their phones; Nokia are putting it in very few. You haven't seen how cool Bluetooth is until you run iSync with a mac, or get Romeo [irowan.com] controlling your mac from the other side of the room through your phone.

It's very cool :)

-- james

Re:this is why S-E is so far in front of Nokia (0, Flamebait)

Viol8 (599362) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432722)

Wowww , so you can control your mac using a phone???
Man thats almost like ... uh , a remote control. Yawn.
So f*cking what? I want things that are useful , not technology for its own sake that only impresses teenage geeks.

Re:this is why S-E is so far in front of Nokia (1)

TopShelf (92521) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432794)

controlling your mac from the other side of the room through your phone.

Okay, that sounds nifty, but after the initial "gee whiz" factor wears off, would this ever be a useful feature?

Re:this is why S-E is so far in front of Nokia (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5432815)

Bluetooth: goood!
Design: Baad!
Design > Bluetooth

still waiting for the t69its (-1)

Horny Smurf (590916) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432638)

because i'm a horny smurf, and it's troll tuesday

A most disappointing "feature" (3, Interesting)

no_such_user (196771) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432643)

From the specifications [sonyericsson.com] :

Features
o DRM (Digital Rights Management)

Again, when did DRM become a *feature* for end users? And exactly what are they using DRM for here... ringtones?

Re:A most disappointing "feature" (1)

syle (638903) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432716)

I can think of a few uses on a mobile phone. For instance, on my Sprint PCS, applications can "expire" anywhere from 1-3 months after you pay for them, and not work until you pay again.

Isn't it a beautiful world we live in?

Re:A most disappointing "feature" (1)

binaryDigit (557647) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432730)

And exactly what are they using DRM for here... ringtones?

Games as well? I think the "feature" may be to entice content providers to create apps and content "secure" in the knowledge that the phone offers a way to "protect" that content. Right now ringtones and some games, tomorrow, who knows?

So much for my buying it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5432782)

Thanks for pointing that out, you just saved me a few hundred dollars.

I haven't read precisely what the DRM is used for, though I sure have my suspicions. But regardless, I am not going to purchase anything that tries to make the term "DRM" sound like it's fashionable.

Re:A most disappointing "feature" (1)

Draoi (99421) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432788)

So, I had a dig around on their site & there's very little on DRM (it's not in their extensive glossary). I found this press release [sonyericsson.com] from 2002, tho' ...

Imaging and messaging applications.

Sony Ericsson's collaboration with Sony Pictures (with titles such as Men In Black, Charlie's Angels, Stuart Little 2 and the upcoming Spiderman), Sony Music Entertainment (one of the world's largest music companies) and Sony Style Imaging (Sony's digital imaging community on the Internet) constitute the core of Sony Group's entertainment content group. The collaborations will focus on three key areas:

Technology - to ensure optimization of content delivery on Sony Ericsson products, technology standardization, Digital Rights Management and strategic technology review forums. Sony Ericsson is fully committed to the open standards in the mobile environment and is a principal driver of many open standards initiatives. In addition, the collaboration with the Sony group delivers a powerful mobile entertainment solution to the consumers.

[snip]
For the consumers, these collaborations will result in the possibility to personalize their phones with exciting content from the rich world of Sony. Examples are wallpapers and screensavers with motives from movies, personal images, downloadable ringtones from Sony's top musical artists and branded games.
So there ya go. Partner with Sony, guarantee DRM in future phones & peddle DRM-restricted ringtones, images, etc. Cha-chinnng!! $$$

Re:A most disappointing "feature" (1)

fredrikj (629833) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432816)

Hmm, maybe they want to restrict you from using your phone to download warez with. After all, it has a shocking 2 MB of storage.

Re:A most disappointing "feature" (1)

Hal-9001 (43188) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432826)

when did DRM become a *feature* for end users?
Besides being a misnomer, digital-rights management is not an end-user feature--it's a built-in design flaw. :-p

Lots of memory! (2, Informative)

steelerguy (172075) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432648)

Wow, according to their web site it has plenty of memory also to store photos and other garbage. A whopping 2 MB! That tremendous number is 7% the size of my hard drive back in 1992. Why do they even bother wasting space with a camera? My 3 year old digital camera could barely fit one picture on there.

OK, enough complaining, the phone actually looks cool. Just don't get the camera in the phone thing.

Re:Lots of memory! (1)

Viol8 (599362) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432755)

You'll probably find its NVRAM so the photos and other information doesn't disappear as soon
as you change your battery. In which case 2Mb is quite a lot!

plus/minus (1)

bumby (589283) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432651)

Not very goodlooking imho. 16-bits 128x160 pixels display is very nice though. Too bad those color-displays tend to be very slow, aspecialy when they are cold. It makes the whole "feel" of the phone slow and bad.

Fantastic! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5432654)

How much does it cost to actually talk to someone on it? Oh in that case, keep it.

Toys (1)

lazyl (619939) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432655)

The constant urge many consumers have to buy new toys always amazes me. Sure, it may be "cool", but what the hell do I need all that crap for? I'm not interested. Thanks, but I'll keep my money in the bank.

Re:Toys (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5432721)

I'm with you. I'll stick with my Ericsson T28w, which is pretty much the last Ericsson phone made before Sony started making all of them look like cheapo Nokias.

That thing is UGLY (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5432656)

Looks like a mini tape recorder. Ugh.

funny joke (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5432659)

Q:What's grosser than gross?


A: goatse [gostse.cx] with diarrhea!

Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5432660)

Why would anyone need these features? It's a phone fer chrissakes. Is this anything more than just a new toy for the "I earn more than you" brigade?

Open Source & synchronization (3, Interesting)

MnO-Raphael (601885) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432661)

the T610 is fully compatible with any computer. Your phone books and calendars will stay synchronized and updated

Sounds promising, but is this also true for the various open-source calendar software? I've tentatively been looking for non-Windows synchronization software for my t39m without any luck.

Re:Open Source & synchronization (4, Informative)

phil-trick (24853) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432745)

Well, look no further than:

Multisync @ Sourceforge [sf.net]

Works great with my T68 and evolution.

Phil

Does it run Linux? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5432662)

Does it run Linux?

T68 does work with iSync... (2, Insightful)

Serff (183148) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432665)

I have a T68m and it works great with iSync...So I don't know what you mean by that. Phone looks pretty sweet. But will we see it in the US before 3G phones come out???

Audio (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5432676)

What, no Dolby 5.1?

The feature list doesn't look much more than what my t68i does (GPRS, Bluetooth, address book, organizer, calculator, games, and it can even be used to make phone calls!).

Now just hope that it does all those things better, because frankly, my old cheap T twenty-something was a better phone.
The only thing my t68i is good (and really good) at, is its battery life (at least if you turn bluetooth off when you're not using it).

Interesting ... (2, Interesting)

Draoi (99421) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432681)

From the specifications [sonyericsson.com] ;

DRM (Digital Rights Management)

It's got this 'Music DJ' function, but just how capable is it if it's got DRM. Is it crippled beyond belief? And with e-mail and Java built-in, how long before we see the first T610 virus?

Re:Interesting ... (1)

binaryDigit (557647) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432756)

It's got this 'Music DJ' function, but just how capable is it if it's got DRM

Presumably as capable as the content provider and/or you wallet wants it to be (unless by capable you mean using the content in any way YOU see fit vs the provider).

nd with e-mail and Java built-in, how long before we see the first T610 virus?

Well that's the risk you run whenever you have a "full featured" system. I suspect that the script kiddies are out there as we speak looking for exploits. Next thing you know you're phone will be running a pr0n site and relaying for spammers.

Bluetooth (1)

zerocool^ (112121) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432683)

*obligitory comments*
1.) bluetooth is dead
2.) bluetooth is the future.

All that aside, one of the absolutely coolest things is the bluetooth enabled headset that goes with it. That is just cooler than anything i've ever seen.

Next project: make a NES emulator for it (hey, it's got 2MB rom!)

You got to love it (2, Funny)

cca93014 (466820) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432690)

Say what you like, but the SonyEricsson corporate branding is really fucking good.

No doubt they spent more on that logo than most people earn while they are taking a shit at work.

SELECT real_problem_with_society FROM /. (-1)

MySQL Troll (651354) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432694)

"The new T610 was been unveiled today"

Was been unveiled? What the hell is the matter with you? That is hands down the most unproper thing ever. Now I'm going to go download early morning pr0n from Kazaa.

Not the T68i replacement... (1)

mr.henry (618818) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432696)

It looks like it's actually the T600 replacement [esato.com] .

I think I've seen that design before... (0)

Natoi (615664) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432698)

in Nokia 2110 http://www.rogsm.go.ro/2110a.jpg , way back in the days... And it's still ugly :D

Hoped they improved... (5, Informative)

usmcpanzer (538447) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432705)

the antenna strength. I shutter when someone walks into my store to buy the t68i. It looks cool, everyone wants a color screen phone, but about two thirds of them are returned. Horrible reception compared to the Nokia gsm phones.

**This is with AT&T's new GSM network.

Built in CrimeCam (1)

SmackCrackandPot (641205) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432710)

Just think .. if one of these puppies gets stolen, you'll get a mugshot of the perpetrator.

Looks poor even for low-end phone (1)

horza (87255) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432726)

It states "Camera built-in" but doesn't say anywhere on the site what resolution it is. Obviously fairly crappy then.

One of it's listed top 'features' is "DRM (Digital Rights Management)" and mentions an application called "Music DJ"... but it doesn't appear to play MP3s.

It talks about Internet connectivity, but doesn't even have a web browser (only now-defunct WAP technology).

Other than a pretty screen, bluetooth and Java (the first I'd rather have the longer battery life, the second my PC connecting cable cost me $15 which is cheap, and the third you would have to show me something useful it can do) it doesn't seem any more advanced than my Sony J70, which came free with my mobile subscription.

I can see this one dying a slow death at the bottom of the 'freebie' phones.

In fact, anyone with spare cash would go for the Sony P800 [theregister.co.uk] .

Phillip.

Unsuitable for Unix people (1)

Stephen Williams (23750) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432727)

The Unix philosophy is "do one thing, and do it well". This phone-cum-kitchen-sink does lots of things; whether it does any of them well remains to be seen.

I like my landline phone. It allows me to make phone calls, and performs that task extremely well.

-Stephen (no, I've never owned a mobile phone)

Hrmmm.. (2, Funny)

dasmegabyte (267018) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432732)

So, GSM phone. That means it only works with "T-Mobile" in the states, right? The company with decent calling plans, but the shittiest service, worst calling areas, no roaming (that's what "no roaming fees!" means...you can't roam at all with an all-digital phone!) worst building penetration and no plans to improve any of these? The one that paid several million dollars for their spokesman, and it was Jamie Lee Curtis? No thanks, man. I'll stick with my POS $30 Kyocera and Verizon, where I spend a lot extra to get the basic level of service I should get with everybody -- service that works indoors, service that works in the mountains as well as in the city, service that works in Canada and Mexico and the peace of mind to say "no, go ahead and call me, my phone will be on, I get service everywhere?"

Re:Hrmmm.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5432750)

I have a GSM phone (Siemens S46) through AT&T. I can even use GPRS on it to talk to all my friends on AOL!

I've got a ti68 (1)

supergiovane (606385) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432744)

Sure, no Bluetooth, no 16 bit screen, no built-in digital camera, but it's damn fast at computing square roots!

SyncML on t68 as well (1)

alch (30445) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432748)

T68 has sync features as well (t39 also) - it is standards based SyncML (http://www.syncml.org) - iSync should work with most Ericsson phones since the T39, some just need cables (ie: no Bluetooth)

I think the cool thing is the J2ME on the phone !! eg: J2ME/Blutooth network games (GPRS as well, but that would incure costs and LAG)

Is this a Symbian OS phone? (1)

cacheMan (150533) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432752)

Can't find it anywhere in the specs. But I can't find it anywhere in the P800 specs, and I know that the P800 uses Symbian...

I've been waiting for this.. (1)

normaldude (555644) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432762)

WOW. I've been waiting a long time for a phone like this.

- Tri-Band GSM
- Built-in Camera
- Bluetooth
- No antennae sticking out
- Size of Ericsson T68i or smaller

I'll probably wait a while for the price to come down a bit, but this is almost certainly my next phone. I'll probably pay extra, and buy it "unlocked" (so I can use it with any GSM carrier, and prepaid SIM cards when overseas) from a vendor like digitalbynet.com, romeohifi.com, or mindlogic.com.

I used to think Bluetooth was useless (5, Interesting)

jht (5006) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432764)

Then I got a T68i last fall. Now I have a Bluetooth adapter for my Mac, a Jabra Bluetooth headset, and a Palm Tungsten T. Amazingly, it all Just Works together. I can sync the Mac to both the Palm and the T68i, use Bluetooth to copy themes and ringtones to the phone, leave the phone buried in my pocket and use the Palm to dial it (I keep more of the database in my Palm than I do in the phone - I only keep the 50 or so most likely numbers in the phone), and just use the Jabra to talk.

Once set up, Bluetooth is actually pretty neat stuff. Personally, it's now a feature I will look for going forward in phones, computers, and accessories.

This new T610 phone looks interesting, but I'm not sold on cameras in my phones. I'd rather save the size and go small.

Re:I used to think Bluetooth was useless (1)

normaldude (555644) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432798)

RE:"I'd rather save the size and go small."

The reason the T610 is impressive is because it has a built-in camera AND is small (about the same size as T68/T68i)

Ericsson T610: 102mm x 44mm x 19mm
Ericsson T68/T68i: 100mm x 48mm x 20mm

Well I /was/ excited... (2, Insightful)

FyRE666 (263011) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432799)

I've been keeping an eye on the Ericsson developers site for a while now, being a j2me developer and to be honest I'm a bit disappointed with this new phone. I'm sure it's great technically, but Ericsson are doing the bare minimum to support java developers. Their "emulator" for the P800 was simply a skin for the reference emulators in Sun's Wireless Toolkit, and since their documentation is little more than sales pitch (that I've found at least) it appears they have no extended APIs to take advantage of sound or other phone specific features.

So what this means is that people buying this, hoping to be able to download whizz-bang games are going to be a bit disappointed. There's no way of knowing whether it even supports image transparency for christ's sake. If you're interested in Java apps, then Nokia or Siemens are the way to go as both have pretty good APIs and very good documentation (Sprint java phones apparently have their own classes for sound too).

Why? (1)

rendle (152846) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432808)

I don't understand. Why would anyone want a thing that wasn't the P800?

Re:Why? (2, Informative)

normaldude (555644) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432845)

RE:"I don't understand. Why would anyone want a thing that wasn't the P800?"

Size. The P800 is a very wide brick. And since I carry my phone in my front left pocket along with my wallet, every cubic mm is important.

Ericsson T68/T68i: 100mm x 48mm x 20mm
Ericsson T610: 102mm x 44mm x 19mm
Ericsson P800: 117mm x 59mm x 27mm

It still looks ugly (3, Funny)

VEGx (576738) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432820)

It still doesn't look anything as nice as Nokia. It has Bluetooth, aye, but is it a requirement to look bloody ugly to have a bluetooth? :/

Looks like fun, but, (2, Interesting)

irving47 (73147) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432827)

There's not much point in upgrading from a t68i unless you've just gotta have the camera and polyphonic ringtones.


Someone mentioned unenforceable camera rules in theaters and the like. Add to that military personnel that will be unable to take this phone to work. I'd imagine intelligence agencies as well.

No screen protection? (3, Insightful)

MBraynard (653724) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432836)

That's a really pretty screen and I fear it getting scratched up against my pen or pocket knife. Why wouldn't it have a flip over protector?

Troll Tuesday Returns Y'all!!! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5432839)

Welcome back Subway lovers!!! Stay tuned for more of Jared's exploits, same time next week. And remember, Troll Tuesday is never more than a week away!



The Adventures of Jared, Vol. 1: A Cautionary Tale


It was a balmy 70 degree day as Jared Fogel stepped out of his small corner apartment and headed down to his local Subway (store #16977) for the weekly Troll Tuesday special. Jared had every reason to be happy: his toll-free hotline was open 24 hours a day, and his "Army" of former fatties, culled from the ranks of those who had lost over 100 pounds at Subway, dispensed justice with an iron hand. The days of irate customers and devious managers subverting the ideals of Subway for their own nefarious reasons were long since gone. Now he and every registered Slashdot user could have the satisfaction of ordering a sub, loaded with succulent fresh vegetables and hearty meats and cheeses, for the low price of only $3.49 every Tuesday. The friendly Subway staff knew that Jared always ordered a 6" turkey sub and a bag of baked chips for lunch, and a 12" veggie sub for dinner, with extra veggies and no cheese, oil or mayo.


Upon walking into the store, however, Jared suspected that something was amiss. The formerly bustling lunch line had dwindled to just a few people, and there was not a single teenaged slacker or wandering vagrant to be seen. The potato chip rack was empty, chairs and tables were scattered haphazardly around, and there was an odd stench in the air not unlike a motherboard stuffed inside a dirty gym bag. Sudenly, his worst suspicions were confirmed as he heard the muffled grunting and snickering coming from the small crowd assembled in front of the counter. Jared's eyes widened in horror as he beheld no less than 12 filthy bisexual Linux hackers, ALL with their pants around their ankles, engaged in a man-train gangbang front of his beloved lunch counter! Suddenly one of the deviants spotted Jared standing in the doorway. "FRESH MEAT!!!" he yelled as he and his entourage stumbled, giggling and farting, toward the horrified customer. Quivering with rage, Jared quickly grabbed the soda machine and, with superhuman strength, toppled it onto the pack of leering perverts. With a muffled crunch, the 500-pound soda machine rolled over the unsuspecting hackers, crushing them under its massive bulk. After a quick trip to the dumpster to dispose of the remains, Jared hosed the bloodstains off the floor and opened the windows to air out the stench of sweat and freshly soldered video card that still lingered in the air. Soon the local Subway branch was filled once again with happy customers.


Sadly, not all stories have a happy ending, and the fact of the matter is that most cases of GNU/Linux use end in tragedy. Scientific studies show that Linux has been linked to illegal drug use, pedophilia, bestiality, necrophilia, nymphomania, and venereal disease. If you or any of your loved ones has been experimenting with this lifestyle, encourage them to seek help NOW, rather than suffer the heartbreak of watching them slowly but inexorably turn into an unwashed, effeminate GNU hippie in a pink t-shirt. The time to act is now, not later. The beginnings of Open Source advocacy must be stamped out early before they have time to develop into something far worse. You have been warned.

P800 (2, Interesting)

elmo13 (252565) | more than 11 years ago | (#5432840)

This phone looks ok, but has anyone seen the P800?

The P800 is verily cool - I would get one if I wasnt a poor student (you can send me money if you want, cheers ;-). It can do just about everything the T610 can do + lots more. I think the only bad thing about it is the Sony memorystick instead of SD or something.

3G phones seem to almost be here (UK). I wonder what they'll be like. Anyone know S-E's pland for 3G? What I want is a phone that I use as a PC when I'm at home, not just on the move (with a contact lense screen of course).
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