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The Era Of Satellite News Gathering

timothy posted more than 11 years ago | from the compaction dept.

Media 243

swimgeek writes "The TV Technology for covering news as it happens is changing. This article specifically talks about the transition from ENG (Electronic News Gathering) to SNG (Satellite News Gathering). The American TV networks are close to spending $100 million for this transition, anticipating a possible war in Iraq."

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FIRST POST (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532672)

I claim this For CANADA>

Re:FIRST POST (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532694)

isn't it about time canada stopped playing "country" admitted they're really just a state? it's okay, we americans will take you back despite your indiscretions. together we can finally crush the frenchies and drive them from the american continent.

It's a great day to be an American (-1, Flamebait)

carlsbergtroll (653113) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532788)

Bush has just gone on TV to declare that islam shall be eradicated worldwide by 2008!

Destroy all religions! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532800)

Until humankind realizes that all religion sucks, we'll continue to have problems. Christianity is just as shitty as Islam.

Kill 1 Mad Guy (Bu$H) - Save 1 Mio. Lives (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532675)

Wake up, America! Your president is just about starting a war which will kill 1 Mio. innocent people and destabilize the whole world!!!

My advice:

Kill 1 mad guy (Bu$H) - Save 1 Mio. lives

Sodamn needs to be killed (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532809)

USA has a responsibility as the world power to keep the world safe. Do you suggest we let Sodamn be? Just sit back until he turns into Hitler, eh?

Kill Sodamn -- save 2 million lives.

President bush announces: no war in Iraq (4, Funny)

intermodal (534361) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532677)

PRESIDENT BUSH AGREES TO MORE INSPECTORS (AP) Washington DC 4:00 PM (EST),

President George Bush has made an announcement that we will not attack Iraq.

The President has announced that as of today, he is agreeing to additional inspectors to be deployed throughout the country of Iraq. We will be sending 250,000 additional inspectors into Iraq. The additional inspectors will include:

- 24,000 members of the 1st Infantry Division

- 15,000 members of the 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault)

- 15,000 members of the 82d Airborne Division

- More than 5,000 members of the 4th armored division with their "M1-A1 all-terrain vehicles"

- Additional U.S. Army personnel, as needed for inspections

- A variety of U.S. Air Force personnel for aerial recon missions and other "surveillance" activities.

- A significant number of United States Marines to aid with inspections

- United States Coast Guard personnel to inspect coastlines

- An undisclosed number of Rangers, Green Berets, Navy Seals, Recon Marines, Delta Force, and other:

- Special Operations personnel to inspect Iraqi "hide-aways"

- MOAB and Daisy-Cutter bunker access devices

- Special air deliveries to aid the inspections will be made by aircraft from the USS Constellation, USS George Washington, USS Abraham Lincoln and USS Enterprise.

_The President stated: "With these additional resources, the inspections should be completed in a few weeks (not months -- not years)."

Re:President bush announces: no war in Iraq (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532720)

Let's hope that jr, unlike his father, acts like a man, fully completes his task and cleans up his own damn mess.

YEAH RIGHT. Like that'll ever happen.

Re:President bush announces: no war in Iraq (0, Troll)

intermodal (534361) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532733)

we'll see. were it not an election year we mightve finished that shit off like we should have 10 years ago.

The GWB relection strategy: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532748)

I don't think tha American people have the stomach for a 2-month war, let alone a 20-month war!

Re:The GWB relection strategy: (1)

intermodal (534361) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532760)

you're mostly right. fortunately I suspect that Daddy Bush and his cohorts are really in charge, and they dont care if the people can stomach it.

Re:The GWB relection strategy: (1)

jmauro (32523) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532811)

I suspect it's just the cohorts. Bush I is on record as saying war now is a really, really dumb idea.

Re:The GWB relection strategy: (1)

milktoastman (572643) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532831)

It's all an evil conspiracy to ensure the continuance of American national security and global economic continuity. Those Sickos.

Re:President bush announces: no war in Iraq (2, Insightful)

h4x0r-3l337 (219532) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532915)

... and cleans up his own damn mess.

Seeing as how George has already stated he wants the international community to help rebuild Iraq, I'd say the US will just go in, secure "their" oil, and then leave the mess for others to clean up.

Re:President bush announces: no war in Iraq (5, Funny)

TopShelf (92521) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532782)

Meanwhile, Saddam Hussein and his band of adventurers are standing beside the Tomb of the Unknown Gulf War I Soldier, reading a crumbling old book that they found alongside:

we have barred the gates... can hold them off long if... horrible... suffer... They are coming. We cannot get out. Drums, drums, drums... they are coming."

Re:President bush announces: no war in Iraq (1)

robi2106 (464558) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532841)

Well Orcs do eat their own, in much the same way that Saddam kills his own (ie by brute force rather than civil law).

If the laws of the country, elected by the people, stipulated that people be put to death for speaking out about the government, then that would be a different thing (what nation would do that?). But Saddam pushes these rules on the people against their will.

robi

Re:President bush announces: no war in Iraq (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532849)

Drums, drums, drums... they are coming."

Ok, it's bugging me, I should know this, but my Zarus isn't hear yet (to keep track of things, ya know) What is this from? Lord of the Rings?

Re:President bush announces: no war in Iraq (1)

Sandcastle (563801) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532896)

Take a long hard look at yourself. What are you doing on slashdot if you have to ask that? LOTR - TFOTR Poser...

Re:President bush announces: no war in Iraq (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532972)

Take a long hard look at yourself. What are you doing on slashdot if you have to ask that?

Didn't read books until a couple months ago. Spent last 20 years coding, reading H2G2, playing BattleTech, mountain biking, accumulating more toys than you could shake an electronic sausage at, and burning out my retinas playing video games.

To be honest, LOTR is good, but I've been mired in BattleTech fiction for the last 10 years, now it's pretty poor stuff, but the early books were pretty good stuff.

Oh, and I have two sparc IPX boxen (one solaris, one RH Linux), and Amiga 2000, a laptop on loan to friends in Oz, and I'm typing on a home-made Athlon 2600+ system w/768MB (which oughta be enough for somebody) I figure I owe nobody an explanation (though I probably just gave one..) I'm easily the loser you are!

uh.. wait a sec.. whad i say?

Re:President bush announces: no war in Iraq (1)

Tackhead (54550) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532912)

> Meanwhile, Saddam Hussein and his band of adventurers are standing beside the Tomb of the Unknown Gulf War I Soldier, reading a crumbling old book that they found alongside:
>
>we have barred the gates... can hold them off long if... horrible... suffer... They are coming. We cannot get out. Drums, drums, drums... they are coming."

Ahem.

To the tune of "Five foot two, Eyes of Blue".

Five foot nine, just quit tryin'

Been outa sight for quite some time,
Has anybody seen Saddam?

The mouth that lied, is open wide,
Schwartzkopf's dick stuck deep inside,
Has anybody seen Saddam?

So if you run into a sand-monkey who
is shell-shocked with horror,
Maybe missing a limb, but according to him,
he just won the fuckin' war!

Fuck Iraq,
Fuck Iran,
Nuke 'em both back into sand,
Has anybody seeeeen Saddaaaammmmmmmmmmm?

- John Valby [johnvalby.com] , "Saddam", written for the first Gulf War.

I can only imagine what Dr. Dirty will have in store for his next album.

(Ah, fond memories of "Concerto for Voice, Piano, and 566 Screaming Assholes" and his various Christmas Albums. If you're in upstate New York and enjoy tasteless humor guaranteed to offend everyone, you've gotta see him live. :)

Re:President bush announces: no war in Iraq (1)

anzha (138288) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532976)

Happen to be a reference to this [geocities.com] . I do not share its view of the situation, but, it's still friggin hilarious...

Re:President bush announces: no war in Iraq (0)

uidzer0.org (659497) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532819)

/me adds one more reason not to believe everything you see on the internet.

Re:President bush announces: no war in Iraq (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532869)

That's an extremely poor taste joke considering that a lot of innocent civilians are about to be killed. I'm sure your attitude would be a *whole* lot different if you actually understood what the Bush administration's reasons [accessatlanta.com] are.

Re:President bush announces: no war in Iraq (1)

intermodal (534361) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532941)

on the contrary, i know that already and i still think its funny as hell. i realize many will die, and i think its worth it. We should have finished this shit a decade ago during Gulf War I, and regardless of how or why, I'll be glad to see it finished.

Gobbles Owns You (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532679)

Hello, this first post was brought to you by GOBBLES. Word.

Good News (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532685)

I'm all for it as long as we still get the same censored none-news we've always been getting. I wouldn't want to start getting actual news, that might be stressful.

not just oil (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532686)

good to see absolutly everybody is making money with the war.

Re:not just oil (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532705)

Right, the US is spending a trillion dollars between the war and proping up iraq after the war to keep oil prices low. That money could be used to subsidize the cost of oil until the world supply runs out.

You're a complete idiot.

Re:not just oil (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532959)

Why is this flaimbait? This post is absolutely right. Remember the Wired article post on Slashdot about the transition to the whole hydrogen economy. If the US were to spend the money needed to conduct a war on Iraq on reducing dependency on foreign oil and alternative energy sources, the US wouldn't need to go to war for oil's sake... The US and the rest of the civilised world could tell the towelheads to suck sand and watch them fall back into the stone age without Western money and technology.

Tubgirl theory #1: The OJ enema (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532688)

Here's my first theory regarding what the hell happened to tubgirl: Someone gave her an enormous orange juice enema. Probably pumped a gallon or two of Florida goodness into her colon. Then tubgirl turned over, pushed like she was giving birth to a watermelon, and hence the geyser of Old Faithful proportions. Any other theories?

Re:Tubgirl theory #1: The OJ enema (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532724)

Another theory is that it's a fountain of shit.

Re:Tubgirl theory #1: The OJ enema (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532751)

Hmm... it's too liquidy and orange to be shit. Plus I think I smelled some citrus in it.

yeeeeeeooooooooww! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532797)

Damn, that would burn like a mutherfukker!
I hope that at least put in a fifth of vodka while they were at it.

Re:yeeeeeeooooooooww! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532845)

Ah... the voice of experience speaks out.

Arse. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532693)

MAGIC eight BALL rules YOU all LIKE a GOD! FUCKERS!

Anybody... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532700)

Sense a conflict of interest? Wars are interesting stories, and to place reporters in with/as soldiers smacks of conflict of interest. Who's to say that the repoters won't intentionally slip up and start skirmishes and battles for better ratings?

Satellite pic of Mr Goat's car! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532708)

Here's a picture of Mr Goat's car [beaterz.com] . Notice the exhaust pipe has been stretched to unearthly proportions. Just the way the Goat man likes it.

Please contact Mr Goat if you'd like your exhaust pipe stretched to this diameter.

Where are all the St Paddie's day trolls?!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532777)

Thanks for sharing. Most impressive!

Re:Where are all the St Paddie's day trolls?!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532803)

WE ARE DRUNK AND PICKING FIGHTS

just like real irishmen.

except we have self government

Here's an irish car! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532828)

Check out this Irish car [beaterz.com] . What a beauty!

And I was just getting used to... (3, Funny)

UselessTrivia (653926) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532713)

...the crappy videophone reporting feeds

First Prime Factorization Post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532715)

100 million = 2^8 * 5^8

Bandwidth Issues (4, Funny)

rwiedower (572254) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532725)

Already, there are some glitches. Satellite traffic jams have been a frequent frustration. The other day it took Sanders almost two hours to get a high-speed connection to send his report. "Every crew from every network is often trying to get on the same bird at the same time," he said.

This is the modern equivalent of the old 1940s movies where twenty reporters would see a man shot, then all rush out to the same three telephone booths and all try to pile into the same one, closing the door on each other in the process while they were screaming "Operator, get me the Times!"

Re:Bandwidth Issues (1, Funny)

binaryDigit (557647) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532773)

Wow, even in war the most powerful weapon is the /. effect!

And if the Iraq war is over... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532726)

They'll be all ready to get for North Korea. Yeah!

SMG (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532727)

= Suck My Gnob.

or is that GNU/knob?

Well whatever. You know what it is, so suck it.

The plight of the oppressed. (2, Funny)

conner_bw (120497) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532730)

> The American TV networks are close to spending
> $100 million for this transition, anticipating a
> possible war in Iraq."

Is there really any doubt this war is for DEMOCRACY!

U$A! U$A! U$A!

Re:The plight of the oppressed. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532796)

Ask the Iraqi defectors who claim murder, rape, and terrorist support.

Re:The plight of the oppressed. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532815)

I will when *you* will spoon fed eater of propaganda.

Re:The plight of the oppressed. (1)

milktoastman (572643) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532843)

If it goes against the way you want the world to be, it's propaganda, but when it presents a world view you find agreeable...thank god those few noble souls were able to leak out the truth.

Re:The plight of the oppressed. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532897)

Remember the first Gulf war's "noble souls" like Nayirah?

http://www.counterpunch.org/cohen1228.html

Buddy, wake the fuck up. The track record says otherwise.

Will newscast for food. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532731)

OK $100 million. Now how does that translate into jobs for us poor SOBs out of work?

Re:Will newscast for food. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532838)

It doesn't.

USA! USA! USA!

Re:Will newscast for food. (1)

milktoastman (572643) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532856)

It makes you tire of sitting at home and watching TV and makes you overcome your pride and laziness so that you will go out and work at a hardware story while searching for a "good" job. I used to pollinate corn for a living in high school. I'll do it again if I can't find a job out of school.

Re:Will newscast for food. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532906)

Wow, I wondered what a cornhole was used for, and now I know.

I'm surprised! (2, Interesting)

djkitsch (576853) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532736)

I'm fairly suprised that this isn't more commonplace already. Considering the likelyhood of being able to find a working net connection (or whatever) in the average war zone, and the fact that satellite time is cheap compared to the average network's budget, this should have been done years ago.

Radio too! (4, Informative)

Theaetetus (590071) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532743)

I'm writing this while taking a short break - I work for a large NPR radio group in the engineering department, and I've spent most of the past three workdays running new video and audio feeds. We've wired in Al Jazeera TV, TV Israel, TV Asia, ESC (Egyptian), and Dubai Satellite television, in addition to CNN, CSPAN, and BBC. We're building a war-room too, with multiple computers, video and audio feeds.

ENG has definitely changed in the past decade - Gulf War I was the first to really have on-site video showing missiles launching and landing, and in Gulf War II: Die Harder, it'll be a necessity for any station that wants viewers - and we'll have several reporters in the gulf with satellite ISDN and satellite phones for on-location sound bites.

In terms of cost, we're not that big - not a national network, just 6 stations (with a few nationally syndicated programs) - but we anticipate spending upwards of $15k on equipment and at least $5k for phone/satellite bills.

Thing is, if you see CNN showing missiles launching and landing and your local news station with just a still photograph of Baghdad, which one will you watch?

-T

Re:Radio too! (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532876)

I wish I could remember whom to attribute the observation to, (Lenin? Stalin?) but ~~ control the press and you control the people.

No so meaning you prevent the press from distributing the truth, but you load it up with propaganda and all this jingoism and, well, next thing you know some Dixie Chick makes a horrible mistake, apologizing for an honest statement. That's control.

Re:Radio too! (1)

robi2106 (464558) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532907)

Well you won't find the Dixie chicks on NPR, unless Terry Gross interviews them. Thankfully.

robi

Re:Radio too! (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532990)

Honestly never heard them, myself. I just hate when some public person makes an honest, heartfelt statement, then has to recant themselves to save career. Hopefully those who threaten to make anti-war statements during the Oscars show more spine.

Re:Radio too! (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532883)

Missles "landing"?!?

Don't you mean exploding/detonating/impacting/killing/maiming/etc ?

Maybe you could fill us in about video of bullets "touching" enemy soldiers as well.

I'm glad you aren't in the broadcasting department :)

Re:Radio too! (1)

robi2106 (464558) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532891)

I usualy get my (reliable) news from the BBC and from radio: NPR / PRI provide all the news I need and I don't have to put up with any commercials (except durring pledge week) or annoying DJs / reporters (except for Echos host John Diliberto).

On 9/11 when every US media outlet's web portal was jammed the BBCs was still fully functional and had just as up to date news as the rest (more so since you didn't have to wait for the DL).

And I live in the Western USA.

robi

Re:Radio too! (1)

BuhSnarf (633686) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532934)

That's because the BBC does actually rock muchly for news :)

waste of money (4, Insightful)

Archfeld (6757) | more than 11 years ago | (#5533003)

Will read it on the net from a foreign news source just like I would anyways, anything else is so slanted and pre-digested as to be worthless for news anyways.

Yes.... you are absolutely correct (3, Interesting)

0x1337 (659448) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532766)

N0ne-news is a perfect word to describe news on channels such as CNN or FOX. They are passive, neutral. The avoid anything that might get the public's attention to the actual freakin' news in the world. They are ROT. Here are some of the stories you are likely to see ON NATIONAL NEWS 1) Laci Peterson lost for 2 months now. Had her husband Scott axed her? 2) Girl missing for 9 months found with a hobo and a prostitute. Whoo Whoo. 3) The latest from the newest rap band 4) The latest lamest movie 5) Weird psycho who set woods on fire sentenced for half of her life. 6) Latest psycho 50 year old soldier who feels like going to Iraq for the 3rd time " 'cause he's bored " 7) Crazy Wacko-Jacko sleeps with another 3-year-old. What you are NOT EVER GOING to see on these news 1) Actual news, as opposed to weird shit that sounds like it got pulled out of the "Enquirer" 2) News that explain current American and World events, as opposed to those that go something along the lines of " Disarm Iraq before carpet bombing me" 3) News that don't involve seedy "patriots" who are trying to get USA into a full-fledged 3rd world war. 4) News that have ANY FREAKIN' RELEVANCE to the lives of Americans. 5) Newscasters that are patriotic, as opposed to dancing to the flute of the gov't.

Re:Yes.... you are absolutely correct (1)

WatertonMan (550706) | more than 11 years ago | (#5533012)

I'd say that the majority of news is real news and relevant to Americans. The reason most news outlets put in the entertainment and "weird" stuff is because most people don't want to listen to news. I'm constantly amazed at how, with a likely war this week, how many people don't want to hear or talk about it.

There's even a strong group of people who encourage others to turn off the news. Sort of the "psychological peace by way of the ostrich."

Having said that though I think that by and large both CNN and Fox News do a fairly admirable job. My main complaint about Fox has been a dearth of international news. But I think that was in part due to it being a fairly new service. I think that, if anything, the current situation is helping Fox expand foreign relationships and start to compete with CNN in international coverage.

Also, while I personally dislike his approach to news, one must say that O'Reilly does tend to cover news that is relevant to the lives of Americans. I find that the "pithy" approach to news oversimplifies things and forces a "rush to judgment." But in terms of the stories he covers, I feel he does a good job in topics. I just wish he covered the topics the way NPR does.

Ha! (-1, Flamebait)

Metallic Matty (579124) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532805)

"...anticipating a possible war in Iraq."

Possible war with Iraq my ass. Its already been decided we're going to war; Bush decided that awhile ago. Now were just pussy footing around; trying to gather support and actual justification.

These news reporters are going to want all the technology they can get for their upcoming war stories. We're not even at war yet and they're talking about it more than I can stand.

Re:Ha! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532863)

mmm... puuuuuusy... arghhhhh...

just goes to prove.... (3, Insightful)

Lord_Slepnir (585350) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532807)

...that there are two things that drive techology forward: Porn and War. Before you laugh, think about this internet that you're on right now. It was a military network, set up so that we could maintain communications, even in the event of a nuclear attack. Then think about why it was expanded so much, because people needed more bandwith for streaming video, images, etc.

Think of all of those fancy moon rockets, which were produced on top of all the reasearch German Military engineers did. Even the safety glass in your car was invented for gas masks long before it was in a car.

When the next great leap in technology takes forward, it will be related either to (a)people killing each other or (b) people looking at each other naked.

Porn and War? (1)

conner_bw (120497) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532867)

So true!

People like Plato, Einstein, Skinner, and Hawkings are all just a bunch of warmongering porn addicts!

For shame.

Re:Porn and War? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532936)

Hey, everyone knows what Einstein had on his mind while with Marilyn (E=MC2 = Erection = Marilyns Carpet and 2 boobs)

Re:just goes to prove.... (4, Interesting)

geekoid (135745) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532940)

"It was a military network, set up so that we could maintain communications, even in the event of a nuclear attack"
no it was not, never was, absolutly can not handle an actual nuclear attack. The fact that you moderate as informative on a 'geek' site goes to show how powerfull an urban ledgend can be. sheesh.

The military has its own nation wide telcom infrastructre that was designed with ' All possible military needs' in mind.

porn may have utilized the net, but they never did anything that could be considered an innovation.

So which was it that lead Linus to begin Linux; porn, or war?

Re:just goes to prove.... (1)

conner_bw (120497) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532961)

> So which was it that lead Linus to begin Linux;
> porn, or war?

It was porn.

Re:just goes to prove.... (2, Funny)

NotAnotherReboot (262125) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532967)

So, in theory, battlefield porn is the next killer app?

Re:just goes to prove.... (1)

WatertonMan (550706) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532977)

...that there are two things that drive techology forward: Porn and War.

And with Playboy's Girls of the Armed Services pictorial, you get to combine the two!

Why satellites? (2, Interesting)

Honest Man (539717) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532810)

In my opinion - If I were a Country trying to defend myself against any military force today that depends on technology, I would attack the orbiting satellites immediately upon the onset of war.

Just my 10 cents though.

Re:Why satellites? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532842)

and how many countries have the capabilities to take out a sat in LEO? All that talk of WOMD (Weapons of Mass Destraction) aside, certainly not Iraq.

Re:Why satellites? (1)

The Bungi (221687) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532900)

The only country able to do that (or at least used to) is (was) the Soviet Union. They scrapped that program along with their Buran space shuttle.

Iraq can't even shoot down a U2, let a lone a satellite. I think we're safe.

Re:Why satellites? (1)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532938)

yeah, with these big 'lasers' and they would be used to destroy incoming missiles too.

War is definite, not possible. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532814)

...anticipating a possible war in Iraq

Tonight, Bush will reissue an ultimatum to Saddam Hussein. That ultimatum will state that if Saddam doesn't leave Iraq within (24? 72? depends on the news source), the US will declare war on Iraq [reuters.com] .

Saddam has already rejected that ultimatum [utusan.com.my] . We are going to war.

How is this NEW? (3, Interesting)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532836)

During the last Gulf War (1991?) Saddam Hussein kept up with what was happening by watching CNN. Understanding the power of satellite transmissions, countries like Iran, which keep a tight lid on what's in the news, have yanked satellite dishes from people, (also, as they claim, western TV corrupts the morals. Ha! Leaders ought to know...)

what does falco have to say about this? (1)

digifuzz (182844) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532865)

"Our love will shine so bright
when we're lovin' via satellite
lo-ove.
Satellite to satellite
lo-ove
satellite to satellite
lo-ove
"

Well, there ya go.

But How many reporters will Die? (1)

Montgomery Burns III (642155) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532886)

ok, so they are using all of this sweet technology.
Are there not systems (military) designed to trace and home in on communications and control centers?
If I were one of these reporters, I would want to make sure that I was well behind friendly lines. One surface to surface missle can ruin your whole day.

They're probably hungry as it is... (1)

cs02rm0 (654673) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532894)

"They'll bounce over the Iraqi dessert"

media coverage (2, Insightful)

Senator_B (605588) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532901)

Although all these new advances in technology are pretty cool, and the leap from what reporters were using last year is exponential, I still get the feeling that between all the media coverage, and the lack of sensitivity of most Americans, this "war" is going to turn into a Fox-style reality TV series. I do think that there should be media coverage, but the coverage needs to remain serious and unbiased (no, not Fox News unbiased, the real unbiased). I don't think this will happen in the near future, but if this trend continues, TV stations could start hyping induvidual battles just to boost ratings. This is similar to what the Romans did when they would recreate battles for the public to see.

All I can say about this is (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532913)

If You're Happy and You Know It, Bomb Iraq

by John Robbins
(to the tune of "If you're happy and you know it, clap your hands")

If you cannot find Osama, bomb Iraq.
If the markets are a drama, bomb Iraq.
If the terrorists are frisky,
Pakistan is looking shifty,
North Korea is too risky,
Bomb Iraq.

If we have no allies with us, bomb Iraq.
If we think somebody dissed us, bomb Iraq.
So to hell with the inspections,
Let's look tough for the elections,
Close your mind and take directions,
Bomb Iraq.

It's "pre-emptive non-aggression," bomb Iraq.
Let's prevent this mass destruction, bomb Iraq.
They've got weapons we can't see,
And that's proof enough for me,
If they're not there, they must be,
Bomb Iraq.

If you never were elected, bomb Iraq.
If your mood is quite dejected, bomb Iraq.
If you think Saddam's gone mad
With the weapons that he had,
And he tried to kill your dad,
Bomb Iraq.

Fall in line and follow orders, bomb Iraq.
For our might knows not our borders, bomb Iraq.
Disagree? We'll call it treason,
Let's make war not love this season,
Even if we have no reason,
Bomb Iraq.

And yet... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532916)

Not -one- American news media outlet covered what Robin Cook had to say in his personal statement to the House of Commons.

I'd say that's objective. Who 0wnz the US media?

The new york times had it on the website (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532951)

The new york times had it on the front of the site the minute it reuters. Doesn't mean new york times is good, but it's less sucky than the the McNews on TV. New York Times is basically the best mainstream news source in America. It's still not great but it's better than the rest of the shit.

correction: It did not carry the statement! sorry! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532971)

You where right! It just said he resigned but it didn't carry the unedited statement.

Differences between bidirectional, live, and fast (4, Informative)

benwaggoner (513209) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532921)

I've consulted on a few systems like this before. This article conflates a few different flavors of real-time broadcasting via bird.

The traditional mode uses bidirectional communciation, where the anchor can ask questions of the on-location talent. This has the advantage of being immediate (mostly). However, due to the latency of the encode and transmission, there is always a noticeable delay. These systems tend to use standards-based videoconferencing codecs like H.263. Bang for the bit isn't very good, so the quality is poor over most connections.

The next is real-time unidirectional, like a standard internet live broadcast. The video is transmitted in real-time, but the encoder uses a buffer in order to control data rate better. There can be a 15-20 second delay between something happening at it being seen on television. More modern or even proprietary formats/codecs like MPEG-4, QuickTime, and Windows Media 9 can be used. Thus, quality will be better than the bidirectional mode.

The next is "fast" where a file is compressed locally, and uploaded as a file. Most of the examples from the article of this type, encoding with tools like Movie Maker or Cleaner. The plus of this is that you can use as many bits as you want, so quality can be great, if you can afford the increased upload time. Also, since it uses TCP/IP, there isn't a risk of data corruption from dropped packets. This is fine for anything that isn't breaking news - expect at least an hour or so delay.
For video broadcast, ideally interlaced encoding would be used, but it doesn't sound like it is in these examples. Squeeze certainly can't handle interlaced output for QuickTime, although it can for MPEG-4. Getting the optimum settings for encoding is my area of specialty.

Still, only a few decades ago, the nightly news was produced by guys with film cameras shooting on actual film, and then rushing to get the film developed in time for broadcast. It's amazing how quickly things change.

Ten years from now, upload will probably be built into the cameras - no laptop needed, unless editing locally.

Live Porn From Iraq (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532928)

Does this mean one can broadcast live porn from Iraq? Where do I sign up?

Going once... (2, Funny)

El_Smack (267329) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532946)

"The American TV networks are close to spending $100 million for this transition, anticipating a possible war in Iraq."
Man, they better hurry.

Different vendors's products under stress: (3, Informative)

Ungrounded Lightning (62228) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532947)

Ok, so:

- NBC is using Apple G4 w/Final Cut Pro and Discreet Cleaner.

- CBS is using Windows PCs w/Avid (editing centers), Adobe Premiere (producers & photojournalists close to action), or MovieMaker 2 (for dumbkopfs?).

- CNN and Fox aren't talking, and ABC's tech wasn't mentioned.

So lets see who flakes out and compare quality and timeliness. B-)

(Note that we'll probably be able to find out what CNN, Fox, and ABC used after the fact, once the info won't give their competitors an advantage.)

Yes and... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532952)

Read, comprehend and truly understand this (from someone who covered the original Gulf War on NBC):

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2003/03/17/scu d_ stud/index_np.html

The US, who prides itself on democracy, has shown its true colours.

Democracy works so long as everyone agrees with the short-sighted American foreign policy.

If another WTC happens, your hands are covered in blood.

YAY FOR THE WORLD!!!

Slashdot spin (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532955)

Well, here's a spin. NBC vs. CBS.

According to the article, the NBC guy uses a Mac, CBS guy uses Win XP.

Now that's something slashdotters can argue about!

Further Incentive (1)

rev.felix (657179) | more than 11 years ago | (#5532969)

Oil companies are already backing Bush on this war, and why wouldn't they? Like any corporation, they're just seeking maximum profit. Now the news networks all have multi-million dollar incentives to ensure a war. It seems like we're caught in a catch 22 here. Every company that suspects a war is going to happen and thus "invests" in it, adds to the economic inertia which will ensure that it does in fact proceed.

that's capitalism baby! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5533023)

When you heard imperialism is the highest form of capitalism you thought it wasn't true?

CAPITALISM IS A SICK SYSTEM! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532993)

Can you believe news of the impending war is sending stocks surging!!

That's disgusting!

What kind of fucking system is this where mass slaughter and violence raises stock prices!

So this is bushes plan to revive wall street? Murder his way to a revived market?

Fuck that!

News Stations fund terrorists (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5532996)

How do you think FOX News and the rest of the so called pro-war stations are able to do their satellite links from Baghdad?

BY BRIBING THE OFFICIALS!

You, your patriotic propoganda machines are just as dirty as your executives.

USA - Home of the fee, land of the grave.

What about EMP weapons? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5533032)

Hmm, hasn't the US already stated its intention to use EMP weapons? If so, won't all this high-tech news gathering stuff be rendered useless?

It seems to me the US miltary isn't really going to want the eyes of the world watching its every move. What an easy way to silence any "uncensored" news. After all, the US has already warned journalists that they won't be able to post their stories from Iraq, and that they might as well go home now.

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