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fp (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5556869)

fire p05+!!!!!!

Bleh (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5556872)

Who cares.

Re:Bleh (1)

anthony_dipierro (543308) | about 11 years ago | (#5556917)

Anyone who ever buys oil. Anyone in Turkey. Anyone with a loved one in the United States 3rd Infantry. Anyone in the United States. Anyone in the Middle East. Anyone in France. Just about anyone.

YHBT YHL HAND (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5556972)

beotch

Re:Bleh (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5556985)

Not me. I've got more important things to worry about than the score to rednecks vs. towelheads.

First on major story! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5556873)

This is a first post on a major news story - already the other one climbed to the top of the hall of fame. Will this one follow? Stay tuned to my first post!

YOU BLEW IT (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5556896)

The chance for a firt post on a major news story, fame and fortune, and you BLEW IT!!!

Yup (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5556877)

Gotta protect that oil.

HUZZAH! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5556878)

Second strike! I mean Post!

Glorious! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5556880)

What a great day for freedom! America will now liberate all the other countries with dictators and weapons! Even those wihtout oil!

Hello? Hello? Anybody there?

Re:Glorious! (1, Interesting)

IXI (586504) | about 11 years ago | (#5557013)

Why does this remind me of the Soviet Union when they came to "help" their neighbour states?

Re:Glorious! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5557027)

They have to provide them with the weapons first. Next Stop, Afghanistan, to liberate it from the freedom fighters that tey gave the weapons to oust the Taliban to.

hey (-1, Offtopic)

simontek2 (523795) | about 11 years ago | (#5556888)

1st response? maybe. well i am not for the war, but if called upon, i will help anyway that i can

no fair (-1, Offtopic)

Venexiano (230225) | about 11 years ago | (#5556889)

first comment, no fair with irak people :( its a pity that depends of our birth place we have chances to live or not...

Where's the best info on the war? (5, Interesting)

floppy ears (470810) | about 11 years ago | (#5556890)

Serious question: where are y'all getting your info on the war? I'm talking in depth stuff like tactics, maps. Not just the CNN bs, but real stuff like great terrain maps and discussions of the weaponry.

Re:Where's the best info on the war? (5, Informative)

OrbNobz (2505) | about 11 years ago | (#5556940)

BBC has the only free live feed I can find.
They have great coverage (of what can be covered anyway).

- OrbNobz
And the rockets red glare...the bombs bursting in air...

Re:Where's the best info on the war? (1)

WildBeast (189336) | about 11 years ago | (#5556976)

I got Euronews, all American news channels, Arabic news channels and my friend got Israeli news channels. What more can I miss? Asian news perhaps.

www.blogsofwar.com (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5557002)

Good information, and quite up to date. It's a one man operation, and that guy has been working around the clock.

Re:Where's the best info on the war? (4, Interesting)

screwballicus (313964) | about 11 years ago | (#5557019)

For plain old news coverage, I depend on the CBC's (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation's) coverage, which I find more to the point and unembellished than CNN's coverage (not that it's hard to be).

For analysis, Strategypage.com [strategypage.com] is quite biased, but informative.

Re:Where's the best info on the war? (4, Informative)

rwiedower (572254) | about 11 years ago | (#5557040)

Noah Shachtman's website [defensetech.org] has a great deal of information on the war...this is the guy who single-handedly broke into Los Alamos a few weeks back. He's updating fairly regularly today, so check it out.

Re:Where's the best info on the war? (1, Interesting)

GMontag (42283) | about 11 years ago | (#5557045)

Some of us have several years of US, and other, military experience so we are already familiar with the weapons systems (specific or in general).

We are also familiar with the study of tactics, etc. So when we get the basic info of where forces are we can kind of guess some of what will happen and reserve judgement on other reports that do not ring true for some reason.

The above is the same sort of process the real sysadmins, engineers and others use comment on computing/networking/etc.

Other people on /. get their military knowledge from Pacifica radio, the Workers World Party and Emmanuel Goldstein of 2600 magazine on his Off the Hook and Off the Wall radio shows. This method is similar to the way newspaper reporters analize computer and other technical issues.

There are many odd twists in this world, the above are only a few.

War Update (2, Interesting)

rwiedower (572254) | about 11 years ago | (#5556893)

Any slashdotters in Iraq? That CNN reporter (Nick something?) who's giving videophone interviews (and running those night-vision cameras) is establishing some serious street cred. After the war, I'd hire the guy in a heartbeat for being one of the gutsiest journalists around.

Re:War Update (4, Informative)

EggMan2000 (308859) | about 11 years ago | (#5557006)

Nic is certainly a gutsy journalist. He was there for the original Gulf War, too. You should check out the HBO movie, "Live from Baghdad" [imdb.com].

I am watching a CNN feed on my desktop while I try to get work done. I must admit that I am quite a war news junkie.

As far as hiring him away. Nic Roberts is Senior Foreign Coorespondant for CNN. I think he is making pretty good dough.

Do you think these guys get hazard pay?

Re:War Update (4, Informative)

Octagon Most (522688) | about 11 years ago | (#5557016)

Here is a blogger in Baghdad.

http://dear_raed.blogspot.com/

If he stays online this could be an interesting viewpoint.

Re:War Update (1)

NickV (30252) | about 11 years ago | (#5557023)

Nic Robertson is fucking crazy and SO the man. Forget about Baghdad, he was the LAST reporter in Taliban Afghanistan and he only left when the Taliban put a GUN TO HIS HEAD and ESCORTED him out of the country.

Wherever there's serious danger, that's where he is. He's one of (if not THE) most important reporter at CNN.

saddam can (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5556897)

SUCK THIS almost First Post!!!!!!!

Maybe 3rd post?

Um, is this really News for Nerds? (2, Insightful)

Joel Rowbottom (89350) | about 11 years ago | (#5556898)

I realise that it's of great importance to everyone, but if I want updates on the media circus^W^Wwar, I'll tune to CNN [cnn.com], or news.bbc [bbc.co.uk] or somesuch, not Slashdot.

Just my 0.02.

Re:Um, is this really News for Nerds? (1)

buswolley (591500) | about 11 years ago | (#5557043)

yeah but we want to talk about it to other slashdotters. C'mon, this is a community. Posting at other sites is hardly as much fun.

Re:Um, is this really News for Nerds? (1)

spakka (606417) | about 11 years ago | (#5557044)

To do my bit to restore some relevance, I'll mention again that Slackware 9 is released [slackware.com], and get modded down to -1 again. My Karma resembles an Iraqi oil well.

Noooo! (-1, Offtopic)

Joe the Lesser (533425) | about 11 years ago | (#5556900)

I need that precious black gold for my SUV!!!!

Oh the humanity!!!

Re:Noooo! (0, Offtopic)

anthony_dipierro (543308) | about 11 years ago | (#5556967)

I need that precious black gold for my SUV!!!!

Or your VW bus, or your commuter train, or your hybrid vehicle.

Re:Noooo! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5557011)

but much much more for your SUV

Re:Noooo! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5557054)

But not my bicycle! Wheeee!

Oil prices dropped this morning (1)

artemis67 (93453) | about 11 years ago | (#5557039)

Also, Saudi Arabia has said that they will release more oil onto the market, if needed.

Oil? (1, Interesting)

Zerakith (607331) | about 11 years ago | (#5556902)

Hmmm, interesting how the oil gets mentioned, wouldnt put it above some corporations to use war as an excuse to up prices! They've been stockpiling for years and this war isnt about oil .. is it?

Re:Oil? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5556963)

... too bad oil prices wend DOWN with the start of the shooting.

Re:Oil? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5556971)

except the price plummeted yesterday, no?

Think you'll see this reflected at the pumps?

Re:Oil? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5557008)

The US gets 2% of its oil from Iraq...

Re:Oil? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5557048)

Heh, Ari Fleischer is on TV right now. He was just talking about the burning oil fields. He wanted to go out of his way to reassure the people that there would be "more than enough" oil to meet their demands. Apparently, he doesn't understand (or care) that there are severe environmental repercussions from this as well. Far be it from Mr. Bush to care about ecological disasters, though.

And it all could have been avoided... (0, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5556903)

if Saddam would have just given up his weapons of mass destruction when we asked him to.

Why is it that 200 years after the founding of the (admittedly flawed but still admirably fair) American democracy, billions of people around the world are still ruled by dictators who would rather destroy the country than give up their power?

Re:And it all could have been avoided... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5557046)

What weapons of mass destruction? Were any found? No. Either way, the U.S. was itching to go to war in Iraq if for no other reason than that King George II could get vengeance on Saddam by finishing his father's work...


Not to mention, there's the Israeli Question... "defend Israel at all costs..."

but Saddam (5, Funny)

thammoud (193905) | about 11 years ago | (#5556904)

said during the interview with Dan Rather that he will NOT set the wells on fire and I believed him. My trust in Saddam is now shattered. Going to see my shrink.

Tarek

I love the Internet (1)

Etcetera (14711) | about 11 years ago | (#5556906)


Sitting here at work, I must say that the only thing I really wish I could get would be a live cable feed of some of the news conferences.

All the opinions, perspectives, and breaking news information I could ever want is available online, with the help of places like Slashdot [slashdot.org], Fark.com [fark.com], and of course... Matt Drudge [drudgereport.com].

Re:I love the Internet (1)

rwiedower (572254) | about 11 years ago | (#5556987)

ABC News [abcnews.com] just launched a live 24 hour newsfeed service in conjunction with Real, so if you pay a few bucks and have a fat connection to the internet, you can watch the war as it unfolds on your computer. Now if only CNN would follow suit...I'd sign up for it.

Re:I love the Internet (1)

aallan (68633) | about 11 years ago | (#5557005)

Sitting here at work, I must say that the only thing I really wish I could get would be a live cable feed of some of the news conferences.

The BBC is carrying almost every conference live on BBC News 24, which they're streaming [bbc.co.uk] over the web. The White House spokes person has just finished and we've switched back to talking heads ontop of nightvision camera of fighting.

Unfortunately there its starting to get very heavily loaded and drop outs are increasing, so why am I posting it to Slashdot? I just unpacked a TV Capture card and threw it in a machine in the corner, I've got my own feed...

Al.

Bush said, and then turkey said, and then ... (5, Funny)

B3ryllium (571199) | about 11 years ago | (#5556907)

Dear Turkey,

All Your Base Are Belong To U.S.

Sincerely,

W

Re:Bush said, and then turkey said, and then ... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5556986)

Come on Slashdot mods, that was "Funny" not "troll". Get a grip. There are plenty of real troll posts on Slashdot, let's not mark down the ones we don't understand, eh?

I don't boycott USA, but... (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5556908)

I boycott news about Bush actions.

Lick my bunghole USian terrorists! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5556909)

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Air raid sirens in Baghdad (2, Interesting)

GMontag (42283) | about 11 years ago | (#5556912)

A reporter broke in on the Whitehouse briefing to report air raid sirens in Baghdad, moments ago.

Nuke Mecca! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5556914)

It's time to nuke Mecca, and really give those protesters something to whine about.

USA PR (5, Informative)

onthefenceman (640213) | about 11 years ago | (#5556915)

As a US citizen having spent the last 12 months outside the US, I can personally vouch for the fact that public opinion for the US has spiraled downwards recently. While I can see some justification for a conflict in Iraq, at what cost will it come?

Mmmm Oceans (4, Insightful)

Flamesplash (469287) | about 11 years ago | (#5557000)

Well regaurdless at least we have some big old Oceans between us and anyone we really could care about.

I oftern wonder if our stance would be different if we were part of Europe, or if England was originally part of North America and we had fled to what is now Europe.

Are we isolationists due to geography?

God Bless America (3, Interesting)

Pave Low (566880) | about 11 years ago | (#5556918)

I pray this war be short and quick, and our troops to come home as soon as we have finished the job.

I appreciate all they do to defend our freedoms, and save others as well.

MODERATORS (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5556925)

Please mod informative comments way up so that we can set our browsing level at 3 or higher as to skip the noice of hundreds of posts. That will limit the load on slashdot aswell as make important information easier to find for the readers.

Fire in the hole (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5556927)

As much as I despise Saddam, I equally despise Bush & Co. The two main reasons Bush & Co. have deployed US forces in Iraq at this moment are:

1) Oil (money)

2) Israel (US motto: protect Israel at all costs).


For a frightening read, see: http://www.newamericancentury.org/


Meanwhile, I can't help but actually applaud Saddam for burning the oil fields... poetic justice.

Re:Fire in the hole (1, Interesting)

wiggys (621350) | about 11 years ago | (#5557035)

The oil argument is beginning to annoy me.

Oil is important for the whole world - we use it for heating, generating electricity, running automobiles and factory machinery etc etc.

Without it you would have no ambulances, no computers, no fresh daily bread at your local supermarket and most likely a very poor economic outlook for you and your family.

So stop the whining, will ya? The governments want oil for THEIR PEOPLE not for themselves.

surprised? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5556932)

why? with comments about being dictator or "who cares what you think", it should be no surprise.

Hit them hard, and hit them fast (2, Flamebait)

Blaine Hilton (626259) | about 11 years ago | (#5556937)

I was against this before, but now its too late for that talk. I just hope they hit them hard, hit them fast and get Saddam out of there so we can come back home with as few killed as possible. Pray for the troops

Scud Missles launched (1, Insightful)

Picass0 (147474) | about 11 years ago | (#5556944)


Don't forget that Saddam's troups are launching Scud missles that the UN promissed us he didn't have.

The UN has discredited itself. Hans Blix is a tool.

News for nerds??? Stuff that matters??? (3, Insightful)

micahmicahmicah (600841) | about 11 years ago | (#5556945)

As if I wasn't getting enough of a bombardment of this news, now I have to read about it when I want my geek fix??? I'd like to smack whoever posted this with a large herring.

Re:News for nerds??? Stuff that matters??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5557042)

I'd like to smack whoever posted this with a large herring

How do you post something with a large herring?

What is the point of this? (2, Insightful)

cje (33931) | about 11 years ago | (#5556951)

Don't you think that Slashdot readers are intelligent enough to surf over to CNN or the BBC or (insert news site here?) These sites have all of the latest updates that anybody could want. What can Slashdot possibly contribute to this other than posting an article that is going to result in a whole lot of political flaming?

Just curious.

I just dont get it (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5556953)

I still dont see why Bush is attacking. Just because you dont like thier form of government does not give you the right to change it.

Who is it going to be next? ... God forbid its north korea... they actually have the equipment and man power to fight back.

War Blogs ... (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5556955)

[bbc.co.uk]
BBC blogs
Raed in Baghdad [blogspot.com]

What is this, though? Today post on explosions in Iraq and yesterday news the explosion of guest workers in the US. What's up, is slashdot getting serious or something? No news on some geek painting his computer case?

Well... (1)

Peterus7 (607982) | about 11 years ago | (#5556960)

I seriously doubt that the attack will stop, but I think this could cause some severe visability problems for the air force.

Wait, I forgot about their uber-radar technology, haha.

Still, it oughta be pretty demoralizing to all sides, seeing all that smoke and smelling the stench. I talked to a guy who was in the Persian gulf last time and he said he couldn't stand the stench of the oilfields burning.

But it figures, maybe this will be the last straw. Saddam has his back against a wall, so he's taking Iraq down with him. Now there's nothing for us or the future of his country. And he could try to blame us, I suppose, even though he gave the order.

Well, that was quite obvious, wasn't it? (1)

locknloll (638243) | about 11 years ago | (#5556962)

Now we're sort of back in 1991 again. I didn't really expect Saddam Hussein to give in without putting up with that kind of trouble. Let's just hope that the whole operation ends as soon as possible, saving as many innocent lives as possible.

Faster. Better. Just as Free(er) (5, Informative)

aengblom (123492) | about 11 years ago | (#5556969)

Washingtonpost.com has this page [washingtonpost.com] up carrying the latest news briefs of military and diplomatic action.

They seem to be keeping it pretty fresh.

Personally, it seems they'll do better than the Slashdot crew in the News for Everbody realm.

GULFWAR-2 list (1)

lucas_gonze (94721) | about 11 years ago | (#5556970)

Another potentially useful source of information; forwarded from Politech list.

--------------------

Introducing the GULFWAR-2 Discussion Group

(please feel free to redistribute)

As the war in Iraq enters its first full official day, I have decided to volunteer and establish GULFWAR-2, an email forum to give people around the world the opportunity to share news, questions and comments about the war directly with each other. I am especially interested in seeing the
discussion group used as a way of disseminating news from non-mainstream, alternative media outlets, though news from all sources will be welcome.

I am not setting up this list specifically as either a pro-war or anti-war forum, but merely a place where people can share information and ideas with each other and engage in constructive discussion. The forum itself is independent of any funding or political/organizational affiliation. For the immediate short term the list will be unmoderated in order to allow for the
most rapid distribution of news and information; if it becomes warranted later on, I may enlist a group of volunteers moderators to help manage the
flow of traffic.

To join the list, simply send an email to

gulfwar-2-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

You'll then be added to the list. You can also join the list or follow the discussion via the list's homepage on yahoogroups:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gulfwar-2/

Oil fields ablaze (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5556973)

Good for them. I would burn them all up too, just so Bush does not get control of them, since that is the sole reason Bushy-Boy is causing all of this mess.

I am all about cutting off the nose just to spite the face...

Taking bets (1)

Waffle Iron (339739) | about 11 years ago | (#5556977)

Is that guy in the video the real Saddam? Every individual detail looks similar to me, but the face as a whole seems fishy somehow.

And why would he wear dorky glasses and a hat unless he had something to hide? OTOH, maybe he just lost his contact lenses in the missile attack.

Defend your "Freedom" (-1, Troll)

ShwAsasin (120187) | about 11 years ago | (#5556979)

Defend your freedom IRAQ! In an illegal war, there are no rules, let the scuds fly! the oil burn! and invaders die.

I wouldn't normally be so critical but someone has to support the little guy...

Refreshing (0)

clbyjack81 (597903) | about 11 years ago | (#5556980)

President Bush made it very clear in his address to the nation Monday evening that Saddam Hussein and his sons have 48 hours to vacate Iraq. If they do not comply with this demand, the United States of America will have no choice but to enforce resolution 1441 of the United Nations Security Council and bring an end to the Iraqi regime. This call for war comes at a time when much of the world is crying out for peace. Three major members of the United Nations Security Council have promised to veto any resolution that would present Hussein with an ultimatum and protests are being held everyday in the U.S. and around the world with rallies reminiscent of the Vietnam conflict. But lets stop a minute and take a look at one of the cornerstone principles that this nation was built upon. Thomas Jefferson drafted the Declaration of Independence and presented these words to representatives of the thirteen colonies on July 4, 1776. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. From the very beginning of our nations history, with few exceptions, we have lived our lives under the umbrella of this liberty. We have also played a key role in helping other nations pursue the same freedoms that we often take for granted. Why then, is it such an outrage that we would again protect our autonomy and the freedoms of the rest of the world? Fighting for our rights and protecting the liberties of underdog nations are traits that every citizen of this nation should be proud of. Our nation, the United States of America, is a great nation. This country was built on honorable and spiritual doctrines that continue to influence our actions even today in an age of moral decay. The freedoms that we enjoy were fought for by patriots who believed in the cause of independence so much, that they laid down their lives without a second thought. Most likely our troops will be embroiled in battle by the end of this week. They will be fighting to protect the very freedoms that our forefathers proudly died for. Remember this and instead of crying for peace, rally for freedom. Let Freedom Ring! --- tjester

May free speach and free thought live on (4, Interesting)

Ghoser777 (113623) | about 11 years ago | (#5556989)

Even though half my students are against the war and the other half are for, they all are interested, involved, and informed. I've been grilled by my students with better questions than I have been by adults. There's a healthy population of students who want to protest the war, and a healthy bunch who see this war as something really important. Logarithms, exponentials? No, today, my students showed me that they can care about something, and I have nothing but confidence that some day my students will be critical thinking adults that make a difference in this country.

May free speech continue to live, in spite of the attempts of the far right to silence it, and the far left to exploit it.

F-bacher

break the record (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5556991)

With this post here now, we'll never break the record for most comments with that last post.
I'm curious why slashdot is covering the Iraq war. I want some news for nerds. I'll go to CNN or Google if I want Iraq news.

Operation: Annex East Texas (1)

mnemotronic (586021) | about 11 years ago | (#5556997)

What does it have to do with the normal Slashdot faire? Nada. There are other forums available for everyone to discuss their own hidden agendas. Let's try to stick to slashdottish topics please.

Listen to the War on Shortwave (1)

stealie72 (246899) | about 11 years ago | (#5556998)

If you really want up to date info from non Fox/CNN/Other talking heads, get thee a shortwave radio and check out these sources [radioenthusiast.com].

Does anyone else think it looks really bad to rush in because Iraq is destroying its oil wells? Bush is trying to tell everyone this isn't about oil, so doesn't that undermine this?

Don't get me wrong, I know everyone knows it's about oil, but they're not even being consistent in their bullshit.

al Samouds (0)

benntop (449447) | about 11 years ago | (#5556999)

CNN was reporting [cnn.com] earlier that Iraq has fired al Samoud missles at American forces and that Patriots were fired in an attempt to take them down. A total of four al Samoud missles were fired and Patriots were launched in response to two of them. During the Gulf War I remember many experts citing the poor accuracy of the Patriot. I am concerned that it is a continuing trend in Gulf War II - it took three Patriots to take down one missle. : \

WELLS != FIELDS (4, Insightful)

magarity (164372) | about 11 years ago | (#5557004)

Oil Fields ablaze in southern Iraq

A well is just one pump/tower combo. It is several of these that are burning. A field is a whole darn field full of the things. Several of these are NOT what has caught fire, which will be a major mess when (if) they do.

IN COMMUNIST AMERICA (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5557014)

Iraq invades YOU!

(anally)

(ha ha ha!) :-D

MSNBC (1)

Tuzy2k (523973) | about 11 years ago | (#5557020)

MSNBC has been doing live web broadcasts all morning. The link to these broadcasts can be found at the very top of the MSNBC page in a scrolling text block. I think CNN and FoxNews also both have live web broadcasts.

Of course, news.google.com is also a great source for up to the minute breaking news.

Astout question... (-1)

SlashdotTroll (581611) | about 11 years ago | (#5557022)

So, are they destroying Sudam Husein's property, or are they returning the subjective property back to the recently liberated subjects of Sudam Husein?

Yes, I dare you answer; because this is the most intelligent question that I, uber SlashdotTroll, can ask in order to improve thy depleted karma.

Qui desiderat pacem praeparat bellum (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5557026)

Let he who desires peace prepare for war... God protect our troops; God save the Queen; God save the president

Short, Victorious War... (3, Insightful)

craenor (623901) | about 11 years ago | (#5557028)

Some people seem to be indicating that they think Bush was after the Short, Victorious War. Over the ages many politicians, like Theodore Roosevelt, have indicated that this is a sure way to boost the economy and boost the flagging spirits of a country with nothing to do.

Maybe there is some of the Short, Victorious War thinking that lead to our current situation. Perhaps the politics of succeeding where his father had failed was motivation enough to lead a country to this point.

But I don't care, do you know why? Because the Son of a Bitch has it coming. I long ago gave up needing a reason to feel that Saddam Hussein had to be "removed" from the world scope.

If there was a shred of diplomacy, decency, reality or reasonability in the man, he would have, at one point in the past 12 years, delt fairly with the United Nations. How much rope do you give to someone, before you hang them with that rope?

Nah, screw it...it was time for War.

Craenor - Gulf War Veteran

It's like a movie...only better. (1)

Dr Tom Danger (621664) | about 11 years ago | (#5557029)

Last night, for the first time since 9/11 I was glued to my TV for a few hours watching the same old footage over and over, waiting for something to happen but instead, being subjected to CNN commentators saying the same thing over and over again. However, every time they'd show a live shot of Bagdad (sp?) I was waiting for something to blow up, fire to reign down from the sky...something. The point of this is - it all seems like a movie, it seems surreal as hell and I'm still not fully realizing the severity of what's happening with the troops over there, some of which are my friends.

Call me crazy, but no matter how real it is, I still can't "wait to see what happens next!" Gotta love the American mentality.

For the other perspective... (1)

grimsweep (578372) | about 11 years ago | (#5557032)

We all get out fill of Fox News, CNN, etc., but for those of you willing to keep an open mind and a salt shaker handy, I suggest poking around this news site [pravda.ru].


I can't say it's one of my favorites, but it's certainly a different perspective.

Thoughts From An American (5, Insightful)

spoonboy42 (146048) | about 11 years ago | (#5557034)

Personally, I have opposed this war for a long time. I agree absolutely with the Bush administration that Hussein is a terrible dictator, but I have a hard time grasping why we are not dealing with a fundamentally more dangerous situation in North Korea, or why we are at this very moment "allied" with a military government in Pakistan, a Monarchy which is only nominally friendly in Saudi Arabia (interesting note: about half of all Americans believe most of the September 11th hijackers were Iraqi, not Saudi). Anyway, I believe that supporting bad governments for short-term gain is only going to wind up hurting us in the long run (as it did with our support of Hussein in the 1980s).

Furthermore, it is impossible to declare war on one man. If we could truly only direct our action against Hussein and his thugs, this would be an entirely different matter. The fact is, though, that the Iraqi people, as well as the American and allied troops, are going to suffer terrible losses in this war. War is always hell, no matter what the reason, and if a war can be averted, and the noble goals of disarmament and democratization achieved through peaceful means, then the path of diplomacy, however difficult, should be pursued.

That said, it is now entirely apparant that we are at war. I, like the vast majority of anti-war Americans, support our troops. I am grateful that my country has so many brave young men and women who are willing to endure the horrors of combat for their country. I pray that their lives and the lives of the Iraqi people are spared. I still, however, disagree with my president's decision. As Theodore Roosevelt once said, it is even more important for the people of America to scrutinize their leader's actions of time of war than in time of peace. I hope for the best possible outcome to be salvaged from this conflict, but I am deeply saddened that it came to this.

watch fox news channel (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5557037)

Watch FNC. CNN blows

infrastructure destruction? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#5557053)

"The schedule has been accelerated due to infrastructure destruction." Translation: The Iraqis are destroying 'our' oil wells. This is not exactly surprising. I mean, if I were Saddam and I knew that I was about to be overrun by forces looking to loot the country of its natural resources, I would certainly make every effort to deny the invading forces their oil prize. It's amazing Saddam waited as long as he did before torching the fields.
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