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Office Depot: Windows XP Apps Must Be Microsoft-Approved

timothy posted more than 11 years ago | from the but-they-carry-non-windows-software-too dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "According to an article at The Inquirer, by May 30th Office Depot will only be carrying computer products that have been certified by Microsoft and carry the 'Designed for Windows XP' logo. This may be an initial glimpse at how Microsoft could introduce Digital Restrictions Management by ensuring all retail hardware and software products are approved by Redmond."

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First post (-1, Troll)

Scorchen (641292) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586119)

W00t! I got it! I got it!

YOU DID IT! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5586205)

Congrats, Presidente will be proud because YOU DID IT!

YOU DID IT, but YOU ARE STILL A DOUCHE (-1, Offtopic)

Znonymous Coward (615009) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586211)

Scorchen , you are the biggest douche in the universe [southparkstudios.com] .

Re:YOU DID IT, but YOU ARE STILL A DOUCHE (-1, Offtopic)

Scorchen (641292) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586341)

Sweet. Thats a damn funny cartoon.

Re:YOU DID IT, but YOU ARE STILL A DOUCHE (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5586355)

Thanks. I got karma to burn so I will keep whring and flaming.

I'm sure everyone's knees will jerk. (4, Insightful)

FreeLinux (555387) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586125)

But, this is simply a marketing decision. Most of the "lesser" applications, the ones without certification, usually aren't hot sellers at the depot.

Did you Vote [linuxsurveys.com] for Linux?

Re:I'm sure everyone's knees will jerk. (2, Insightful)

Angry White Guy (521337) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586136)

Uhmmm, What about Counterstrike?

Re:I'm sure everyone's knees will jerk. (1)

Rosonowski (250492) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586187)

Office Depot.
I can't imagine that games sell too well there, although they might have a small volume of sales.

Re:I'm sure everyone's knees will jerk. (3, Informative)

Angry White Guy (521337) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586310)

Office Depot's listed entertainment titles, mostly the big sellers and a bunch of time wasters. So now, just the big sellers.

1,000 Best Solitaire Games
300 Best Arcade Games
Age of Empires 2: The Age of Kings
Diablo II
Diablo II Expansion Set: Lord of Destruction
Disney's Lilo & Stitch
Empire Earth
Greeting Card Magic
Harry Potter And The Sorcerer's Stone
Hoyle Slots & Video Poker
Medal of Honor: Allied Assault(TM)
Microsoft® Flight Simulator 2002 Professional Edition
Microsoft® Zoo Tycoon
Print Perfect Gold
RollerCoaster Tycoon
SpongeBob SquarePants: Operation Krabby Patty
Star Wars Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast
The Sims: Hot Date Expansion Pack
The Sims: House Party Expansion Pack
The Sims: Vacation Expansion Pack
Warcraft III

I'm with you... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5586183)

It's not as if most consumers do their software shopping at Office Depot, Staples, or OfficeMax anyway.

This would be a bigger, and possibly more sinister, story if it had been about Best Buy, or Circuit City.

Re:I'm sure everyone's knees will jerk. (4, Interesting)

Computer! (412422) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586196)

From the article:


Please be aware that Office Depot is immediately requiring all products that connect to a Personal Computer and Notebook Computer must pass these Designed for Windows XP logo requirements to be considered for retail distribution through our stores.


I have never bought software from an Office Depot, but doesn't this mean that no MacOS or Linux products can be bought or sold there? That's a little alarming.

Re:I'm sure everyone's knees will jerk. (4, Informative)

arkanes (521690) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586323)

The logo is a scam - many of the apps that carry it, and even MS apps, don't follow the guidelines. There's lots of crap, and some of it is very dodgy - for example, you aren't permitted to have a link to your uninstaller in your start menu folder. There's a bunch of things you can and cannot do in the start menu, actually, along with more intelligent things like accessability support (very subjective, and many apps with the logo don't conform) and using system colors/fonts.

Re:I'm sure everyone's knees will jerk. (3, Insightful)

Anonvmous Coward (589068) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586349)

"I have never bought software from an Office Depot, but doesn't this mean that no MacOS or Linux products can be bought or sold there? That's a little alarming."

Is there even a such thing as a Linux app being sold on a store shelf? (pssst, that's partly why Linux isn't exactly ovewhelming people in the desktop world.)

As for Mac, according to OD's site, the only software they have is MS Office and TurboTax. Yep, Office Depot's really racking up the karma with Slashdot.

No. (3, Insightful)

conner_bw (120497) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586126)

This isn't a microsoft decision, it's an Office Depot decision.

Haven't we seen this in the past when 3.11 change to 95, 9x changed to 2000...

Move along.

Re:No. (1)

Gortbusters.org (637314) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586235)

The question is, did Microsoft - in any way shape or form - use their power to sway this decision? "If you don't stock XP certified only software, you will be the last on the list for getting new products" - Ouch.

Re:No. (5, Insightful)

Anonvmous Coward (589068) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586263)

This isn't a microsoft decision, it's an Office Depot decision.
Haven't we seen this in the past when 3.11 change to 95, 9x changed to 2000...
Move along.


I agree, this is hardly an MS Monopoly move. You all complain about software not working the way it should, but when a step is taken to light a fire under companies to make it work better with MS's big OS, the Bill Gates of Borg icon comes out.

You all really should figure out what you want from MS instead of taking the attitude that anything they do (or, in this case, somebody who's selling MS products) as negative.

Or.. (5, Insightful)

WittyName (615844) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586128)

It could mean Office Depot is sick of getting returns for software that "almost" works..

Re:Or.. (5, Funny)

LynchMan (76200) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586161)

But does the Windows XP package have 'Designed for Windows XP' on it?

From what I have heard, Win XP 'almost' works too...

Re:Or.. (2, Funny)

DJStealth (103231) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586188)

How about the returns by people saying "This software won't run on Windows 2000 or 98" because it is only certified for XP?

Re:Or.. (1)

Gortbusters.org (637314) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586199)

Or it's just Microsoft squeezing their hand of power a little. The /. community might not buy their software at Office Depot, but I'm sure there a lot of "mom and pop" shops that go there for everything.

Re:Or.. (1)

Evil Adrian (253301) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586314)

Or, it's not.

Has to be said... (2, Funny)

Skyshadow (508) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586131)

The more you tighten your grip, Gates, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.

shoulda hit "preview"... (1)

Skyshadow (508) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586157)

...I meant it to be just "the more systems", not "star systems". Oh well, you get my drift.

Re:Has to be said... or: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5586173)

The more you tighten your grip, Gates, the more your customers will choke and die from lack of oxygen.

Re:Has to be said... (4, Funny)

Fulcrum of Evil (560260) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586295)

The more you tighten your grip, Gates, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.

To quote Shatner: Get a life!

No (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5586132)

Microsoft isn't abusing it's monopoly power at all. Not one bit.

Re:No (5, Insightful)

d3kk (644538) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586163)

How is Microsoft abusing it's monopoly power? Don't get me wrong, I don't like them much either, but this seems like it's entirely an Office Depot decision as opposed to a Microsoft decision.

Re:No (1)

TheCeltic (102319) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586250)

I wouldn't count on this being an "entirely" Office Depot decision. Microsoft is VERY VERY good at twisting arms and forcing retailers to play the way they want....

Re:No (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5586264)

You don't think Office Depot is getting better terms out of the deal?

Re:No (2, Insightful)

Telastyn (206146) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586290)

*shrug* It's not a leap of imagination, or even too much conspiracy to think that Office Depot won't be getting any BSA visits in the near future... or a nice donation from their friends in Redmond... or a nice discount on their own windows software for being 'such good friends'

I agree that it's not an abuse of monopoly power, but to assume Office Depot does it out of the kindness of their hearts and not their wallets is perhaps naive.

That's great! (sarcasm) (1)

very (241808) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586134)

It would not matter too much because there are other stores to get windows softwares.
Assuming that you are using Windows OS.

Must be a slow news day at /. (4, Insightful)

jbellis (142590) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586139)

Microsoft may be a monopoly, but Office Depot is hardly the only place to buy software.

Re:Must be a slow news day at /. (1)

Dante333 (25148) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586202)

Damn straight!! And I am going to make sure they know that. Does this mean they won't sell linux?

Re:Must be a slow news day at /. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5586217)

Office Depot is hardly the only place to buy software.

Ha ha ha ha ha! I was thinking HOME DEPOT until this point in the discussion. I was wondering why no one was pointing out that they're supposed to be a HARDWARE store.

***Heads up for anyone else as silly as me.***

Might not be as bad as it's made out to be here (3, Insightful)

Random BedHead Ed (602081) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586140)

Software will still be available online, and from other vendors. As long as Microsoft doesn't require software makers to register with MS in order to make their products function properly on the OS, it can't be as bad as the article makes it out to be.

Re:Might not be as bad as it's made out to be here (1)

crazyphilman (609923) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586231)

I think I agree with you here... Besides, regardless of what mall outlets do, most true geeks buy their stuff from online catalogs, where they have a better selection, and better prices. Or, barring that, they pick up a giant quasi-catalog-magazine like Computer Shopper. And, then there are the computer shows -- oh, my, those computer shows...

Re:Might not be as bad as it's made out to be here (3, Insightful)

Mitreya (579078) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586326)

It is a first step... once that goes through, other things will follow. Do you really think that Microsoft wouldn't consider requiring registration of all software products?

Anyways, isn't that monopoly abuse? Again? Few months after the trial?

Just another Nintendo (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5586148)

Microsoft's attack on 3rd party developers over the years have made it pretty obvious, but I guess some people still haven't got the message: this is an invite-only party.

Can't do it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5586149)

It seems impossible for MS to require anyone to only stock certain software. If software is selling well and customers are demanding it, no amount of pressure from Microsoft will keep it off the shelves.

I guess this means... (0, Offtopic)

HotNeedleOfInquiry (598897) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586150)

They won't be carrying Redhat Linux any more.

Linux? (0, Redundant)

Grim Grepper (452375) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586151)

What does this mean for Linux sales? Will they stop selling it at Office Depot?

-1, troll. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5586265)

Who buys linux?

War is going badly (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5586152)

The war in Iraq is going badly. We have become an aggressor nation. Just like Japan and Germany, we too will someday have a much stronger economy.

So there

too bad (-1)

neal n bob (531011) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586154)

I like using half finished, unsupported crap open sores software instead.

Let em run with it... (3, Interesting)

TheCeltic (102319) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586156)

If they truly enforce this, then MS will lose market share the way Apple did when they stopped being the flexible environment for users. Fortunately for Apple, they have come back around. What OS will take the position? LINUX of course...

Re:Let em run with it... (1)

rigmort (584960) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586315)

I think you're dead on here, except for the Linux thing. They're trying to REDUCE confusion, not create it. But a little more to the point is the fact that (and Steve Jobs has even said this) Apple "owns the whole widget," meaning that because they write the OS and build the hardware, it all "just works."

As a sys admin, one of the hardest things to deal with is the literally billions of possible hardware combinations you could come up with using standard PC parts. Windows trys its best to handle this, but Mac OS simply doesn't have to, hence the ease of use and distinct feel.

I think that in a way, if this is enforced, headaches due to unsigned software would be considerably reduced, leading to less support costs, and hopefully ultimately the savings *just might* be passed along to the customer...

Honestly... (4, Funny)

Quaoar (614366) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586158)

How many people here can say they do their software shopping at Office Depot? Anyone? Bueler?

Re:Honestly... (1)

HotNeedleOfInquiry (598897) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586294)

Interesting that you should ask. The last software purchase I made at Office Max was about 2 years ago. It was a late-night emergency and I needed a full-up Win95se disk. I bought one at Office Max that turned out to be an oddball version that was incompatible with all the Win98se upgrade disks that I was using.

So no, I don't buy Windows software or Windows at Office Max.

Well, so much for (2, Funny)

BigGar' (411008) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586160)

buying anything at Office Depot. I'll take my business elsewhere.

Re:Well, so much for (2, Funny)

MisterFancypants (615129) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586268)

Well, so much for buying anything at Office Depot. I'll take my business elsewhere.

Were you already shopping at Office Depot?

If no..they've lost nothing

If yes...fucking dumbass.

Re:Well, so much for (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5586344)

I've shopped at Office Depot lately, mainly because they're in a better location than staples. If this is true, I won't buy anything from them anymore. The important thing is to tell them they've lost my business and why.

You're the fucking dumbass.

Well... (3, Interesting)

crumbz (41803) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586164)

Red Hat 9.0 anyone?
OpenOffice anyone?

I think Redmond is playing the card of trying to keep non-MS approved (i.e. open source and other ISV) software off of retail shelves. However, with retail giants like Wal-Mart only concerned with cost and sales, this could prove a losing strategy....especially outside of the U.S.

My two cents.

Conflict...Hmm (5, Interesting)

dmp123 (547038) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586165)

I detect a small conflict brewing between the last two stories...

Ofice Depot will only sell Designed for Windows XP products, yet the redhat.com page says RedHat Linux 9.0 will be available from.....(you guessed it!) Office Depot!

Well, this IS a turn-up for the books - who thought RH would manage to get a "Designed for Windows XP" certification!

David

Re:Conflict...Hmm (4, Funny)

Xformer (595973) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586278)

Slip of the keyboard...
"Designed for replacing Windows XP".

Suprised? (1)

Scorchen (641292) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586168)

Sorry for double post, But i actually read the news thread, and personally I'm not suprised by this. Microsoft is simply out there to eliminate competitors. I guess its too hard to just simply make superior software. Now they have to restrict what their resellers sell

Windows? What's that? (2, Funny)

cyberlemoor (624985) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586170)

I've decided that, in the interest of not becoming completely cynical, I'm just going to pretend Microsoft doesn't exist or went out of business or something. Who's with me? =P

Re:Windows? What's that? (1)

Scorchen (641292) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586313)

Amen to that. I want to pretend that they are gone, And since they provided us with the Play School theme with windows XP i'm sure they arnt opposed to imagination.

Fight this! (1)

Cyclone66 (217347) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586172)

Fight this, don't let this happen. When the time comes to get Palladium enabled motherboards and CPUs, make sure you get the ones where you can disable it and NEVER enable it. If it's not used it'll be abandoned.

Re:Fight this! (2, Insightful)

bwt (68845) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586320)


I disagree. Do NOT get the ones where you can disable it. Get the ones that do not include it at all.

Don't buy from them (1)

MrP- (45616) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586174)

"This may be an initial glimpse at how Microsoft could introduce Digital Restrictions Management by ensuring all retail hardware and software products are approved by Redmond."

Actually, it may be an initial glimpse at how I (and I hope others) will never go to Office Depot again (or at least until they change their policy)

Aggressive? (3, Interesting)

Johnny Mnemonic (176043) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586176)


I only use Windows when I have to, to be sure, so maybe I'm out of touch. But I sure didn't think the penetration of XP was that large, yet--is Office Depot really ready to sacrfice 75% of their customers?

I guess just because it's ready for XP doesn't mean that it won't work on older versions of winders. On the other hand, I see lots of users of win98 knowing what it feels like to use a Mac and go shopping for software in an office supply store...

Hint--they won't be paying $199 just to shop with you.

Re:Aggressive? (1)

TheOneEyedMan (151703) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586302)

Most (if not all non-.net) Windows XP applications will run on earlier versions of windows. Plus, XP certified apps are more likely to be certified for other versions.

piracy (2, Interesting)

obotics (592176) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586180)

Won't this just increase the rate at which software is pirated? Although the change would be small, any means of restricting the legal purchas of software will lead more people to pirate software. If someone who wanted to buy a legal copy of a piece of software that wasn't "Designed for Windows XP" (whatever that means) and they couldn't find it at Office Depot, they may just say "oh well I tried" and pirate it.

This is terrible! (2, Funny)

$$$exy Gwen Araujo (654821) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586181)

I do all my shopping for computer software at Office Depot! How am I going to get the latest Starworld Monkey Tetris 5.0 if Office Depot don't sell it?

Simple Solution (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5586190)

"Designed for Windows 2000; Windows XP can run all Windows 2000 applications"

People buy software in stores? (1)

eodmightier (208901) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586192)

People still buy software in stores? You don't see many stores that actually carry a large selection of software. A few nitch ones here and there and a few big guys to give those people who resist change some place to shop. No doubt Microsoft will push hard for DRM but I don't think that this is one of them. Sounds like marketting to me.

Linux distros? (1)

zm (257549) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586194)

So, any GNU/Linux distro sold by OfficeDepot after the deadline will be Microsoft certified, no?

free market (1)

Ubi_NL (313657) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586197)

If you don't like it, don't buy there.

It's also their choice if they decided to only sell stuff that starts with the lettter "A" if they want to.

Re:free market (1)

exp(pi*sqrt(163)) (613870) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586270)

We, the people, grant MS a monopoly only as long as it is in the interests of the people. As soon as that monopoly is no longer in our interest it will be terminated. They're free to abuse their monopoly, we're free to withdraw their right to hold the property that allows them to maintain that monopoly.

Re:free market (1)

yerricde (125198) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586283)

If you don't like it, don't buy there.

What if OfficeMax, Staples, Best Buy, and Circuit City adopt a similar policy? Then what national chain will be left?

Re:free market (2, Insightful)

alienw (585907) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586321)

If it was an Office Depot decision, it would be OK. If it was a decision made under pressure from Microsoft, it's not OK. Because monopolies have unprecedented power, they are subject to additional restrictions.

Office Depot XP (1)

The_Rippa (181699) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586208)

Well, at least I can still get Deer Hunter at Best Buy

Not just windows apps (1)

mrAgreeable (47829) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586209)

From the article:
"...all products that connect to a Personal Computer and Notebook Computer must pass these Designed for Windows XP logo requirements..."

Which sounds like hardware, but they mention applications in particular. If that's to be believed, they are saying no linux distros, no mac software as well.

Just wait until you have to give microsoft a slice (1)

digitalgimpus (468277) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586219)

Just wait until MS announces you have to give them 10% of all software sold that's Microsoft-Approved....

And joint ownership of code.

All your bases are belonging to gates.

I don't approve (2, Funny)

Subcarrier (262294) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586225)

And my opinion is the only one that matters to me.

Ummm.... (1)

PhoenixFlare (319467) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586232)

Do that many people really buy their software from an office supply store?

Let em' do what they want...I know the only software I buy lately is games, and there's not exactly a shortage of places to find those.

Most Microsoft software people use comes pre-installed, anyway, and for the (likely) specialized stuff that doesn't, Office Depot isn't exactly the first place most people think of.

Designed for Windows XP? How? (2, Interesting)

zonix (592337) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586245)

Slightly off-topic but, I'm wondering. How do you _really_ meet this criteria, for your app?

Would they ask to look at your code? :-)

z

Looks like it's for hardware ONLY (4, Informative)

yerricde (125198) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586249)

Please be aware that Office Depot is immediately requiring all products that connect to a Personal Computer and Notebook Computer must pass these Designed for Windows XP logo requirements

The specific use of the word "connect" smells strongly like the new policy applies only to hardware products, so that customers aren't scared when they bring home their products and get the "unsigned driver" alert. (Under Windows 2000 and Windows XP, installing an unsigned driver produces such an alert. Installing an unsigned user-mode application program does not produce such an alert.)

Monitors (1)

Student_Tech (66719) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586252)

The way it seems to be phrased even monitors are to be included in this

Please be aware that Office Depot is immediately requiring all products that connect to a Personal Computer and Notebook Computer must pass these Designed for Windows XP logo requirements to be considered for retail distribution through our stores.

I don't recall seeing a monitor with the "Designed for Windows logo on it," and the monitor certainly connects to the computer in a similar way that most mice and keyboards do (plug it in and it works with little to no setup)

Perfectly Fair (1)

mikeage (119105) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586256)

This has nothing to do with MS's domination-of-the-world (Copyright (c) 1975 Microsoft Corporation), and all to do with something (euphamistically) called Freedom. That's right, Freedom. Office Depot can sell what they want, at least, until they become a nationalized government sponsered vendor. As an aside, how is that different that a website only listing software that is FHS complient, or any other standard (let alone distro's like Debian (who I fully support, btw) who are extremely restrictive on what they package)?

Sounds like Ari Fleisher... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5586257)


This may be an initial glimpse at how Microsoft could introduce Digital Restrictions Management...

Just yesterday there was a news report stating that troops "captured a processing facility that may house chemical weapons" (proved false).

Documents attained by Bush Administration pointed to evidence that Iraq may have conspired with Al Qaeda (proved sketchy)

In other words the limiting of approved software by Office Depot may or may not have to do with anything. Try supplying some facts please.

Wouldn't this hurt Office Depot more? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5586259)

After all, according to a friend who works at Staples, for every one copy of Office or serious stuff they sell they sell 3 games and about 20 pieces of $10 old shovelware. Assuming the same is true at Office Depot, what are the odds that the shovelware is going to be, or bother to get, certified?

People are not going to start buying $60 games from you just because you stop selling the $10 games, they'll go to someone else selling the $10 crap.

DRM? I Think Not (1)

Cokelee (585232) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586271)

This may be an initial glimpse at how Microsoft could introduce Digital Restrictions Management by ensuring all retail hardware and software products are approved by Redmond.

Hmmm . . . to digitally protect what? Unless Microsoft does not allow the install of any P2P program how are they managing any digital rights?

Are you saying that all software must be purchased at a store--one store in this situation???

Business Alliances (3, Insightful)

FortKnox (169099) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586275)

Sweet crap people. Its called a "Business Alliance" and it happens an aweful lot, and not just in the IT industry.

Nobody else is going to do this (4, Interesting)

n1ywb (555767) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586285)

I don't have an Office Depot near me, so I don't know what they're selling right now. I do know that if you walk into Staples, Circuit City, or Best Buy, they have a TON of crap that "connects" to computers. They will NEVER follow Office Depot's example, they would lose a SHITLOAD of business. Do you really think that they'll pull every keyboard, joystick, printer, stick of RAM, etc that isn't XP certified? What about multimedia speaker systems? Are Alienware cases supposed to get XP certification?

Another good example is Radio Shack. Shit, are they supposed to get every FAN and HEATSINK and power supply Y-cable M$ certified for XP? Right... Office Depot is going to be the loser here. Nobody else is going to go along with this steaming pile of crap.

oh well (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5586287)

really .. who buys their computer from office
depot, anyway? .. i suspect microsoft has granted
them a goodly amount of concession in this
regard - a higher volume retailer wouldn't need
a bolstering of their hardware/software sales,
so bending to redmond pressure there wouldn't be
necessary. i've always found office depot to be
ridiculously overpriced.

but, then, i only buy games - for productivity,
i boot linux ;)

Microsoft Pressure (5, Interesting)

richwmn (621114) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586292)

I wonder who will be the first to come up with the leaked memo/e-mail/phone call from Micro$oft to Office Depot promising better discounts or support if this policy is implemented??

Who forced Office Depot to do that? Noone (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5586296)

Some idiots will flame Microsoft, but in the article obviously they don't show any evidence that says Microsoft forced Office Depot to take that decision. Just that some idiots will forget that they don't have such a power to force Office Depot for that.

This IS a big deal. (4, Insightful)

binaryDigit (557647) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586300)

If others start following suit (read Walmart, Best Buy, etc) then this could be a very big deal indeed. Esp. if these retailers extend this thinking to their online sales. Think of it this way, Microsoft could effectively control the release dates of it's competitors products (or at least retail release dates) by controlling exactly when they are granted "certificiation". They also have the advantage of ALWAYS having at least a bit of a heads up on any products that their competitors are about to release (no springing a new Office suite on'em). Once again, having the OS company also sells apps is just a bad idea. How long before the OS will refuse to run any apps that have not been "blessed" by Redmond themselves?

Boycott Office Depot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5586306)

In most places, you can always go to Staples [staples.com] or OfficeMax [officemax.com] . So if you don't like Office Depot's policy, spend your money on office supplies somewhere else!

let us not get ahead of ourselves (1)

Raven42rac (448205) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586308)

ok, this is one retailer, one that, quite frankly, not too many people use for their software needs, if this "drm" "secure computing" bullshit continues, which i very very seriously doubt it will, many people will make the switch to mac os, or linux, i know i will if it comes down to it. im already very high on mac osx, hell one of my friends has made the switch and is amazed how everything just "works", amazing isnt it? make a product that works, and people will like it.

OfficeDepot UK, not US, decision (5, Informative)

isdnip (49656) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586317)

Note that the initial article came from a British paper, indeed a very good one which I, like many on the left side of the puddle, read regularly. The article refers to Office Depot's UK stores, which have adopted the policy. It also suggests that US stores haven't yet done so, though they might at some point in the future.

I don't know how autonomous the different Office Depot divisions are, but many companies give a lot of autonomy to national divisions.

I sit two doors away from a Staples so I don't really go into an Office Depot much anyway....

Does it matter (1)

abcxyz (142455) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586325)

I'll buy some paper, school supplies, emergency ink cartridge... from HomeDepot -- but never software from there. Not that I don't like them, but I just tend to shop on-line for software. So they appear to be minimizing their risk (maybe), and if it doesn't work, and enough people complaing that they can't find package "X", the next memo could change that philosophy. If HomeDepot doesn't have what I need, there several other similar stores in the same shopping center.

Re:Does it matter (2, Funny)

abcxyz (142455) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586361)

Rick -- you Idiot, that's Office Depot, not Home Depot. I buy my real HARDWARE from Home Depot.

-- Rick

Glimpses (2, Insightful)

riqnevala (624343) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586342)

"This may be an initial glimpse at how Microsoft could introduce Digital Restrictions Management by ensuring all retail hardware and software products are approved by Redmond."

It could also be an initial glimpse at how I could suddenly switch to linux, if windows gets too restrictive..

Have you sent "installed linux today" -email to microsoft yet?

Dangit! (1)

MobyDisk (75490) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586346)

Where do I get a copy of Red Hat 8.1 that is Windows certified?

Please, RTFA, and then THINK about it, too (5, Informative)

Rary (566291) | more than 11 years ago | (#5586348)

Okay people, first, take a valium. Next, recognize a couple of important points here:
  • This is an Office Depot decision, not a Microsoft decision.
  • It does not necessarily mean they won't carry non-Windows software (ie. Red Hat Linux), just that all Windows software will have to be XP-certified.
  • Consider the source of this information. It's not exactly a shining example of quality journalism. Reading the "memo" in the article, there are a couple things that pop out that make it sound a bit like a fake, written to get all the ABMers riled up (and if so, it clearly worked).
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