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Review of the Sharp Zaurus SL-5500

michael posted more than 10 years ago | from the user-feedback dept.

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Gothmolly writes "After reading the story and comments on Slashdot, I went out and bought one from the Home Shopping Network. It's been a very fun and interesting jump into both the modern PDA (I owned the original Palm until this year) embedded Linux worlds. I've written a review about my experiences over the last few days with it. A lot of this information I found online, a lot is personal experience. HSN is now out of them, but they must still be available cheaply somewhere."

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172 comments

foist (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#5620204)

hoistery

Re:foist (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#5620413)

FIRST POST by someone with a life!

Why Do All These Homosexuals Keep Sucking My Cock? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#5620434)

Look, I'm not a hateful person or anything--I believe we should all live and let live. But lately, I've been having a real problem with these homosexuals. You see, just about wherever I go these days, one of them approaches me and starts sucking my cock.

Take last Sunday, for instance, when I casually struck up a conversation with this guy in the health-club locker room. Nothing fruity, just a couple of fellas talking about their workout routines while enjoying a nice hot shower. The guy looked like a real man's man, too--big biceps, meaty thighs, thick neck. He didn't seem the least bit gay. At least not until he started sucking my cock, that is.

Where does this queer get the nerve to suck my cock? Did I look gay to him? Was I wearing a pink feather boa without realizing it? I don't recall the phrase, "Suck my cock" entering the conversation, and I don't have a sign around my neck that reads, "Please, You Homosexuals, Suck My Cock."

I've got nothing against homosexuals. Let them be free to do their gay thing in peace, I say. But when they start sucking my cock, I've got a real problem.

Then there was the time I was hiking through the woods and came across a rugged-looking, blond-haired man in his early 30s. He seemed straight enough to me while we were bathing in that mountain stream, but, before you know it, he's sucking my cock!

What is it with these homos? Can't they control their sexual urges? Aren't there enough gay cocks out there for them to suck on without them having to target normal people like me?

Believe me, I have no interest in getting my cock sucked by some queer. But try telling that to the guy at the beach club. Or the one at the video store. Or the one who catered my wedding. Or any of the countless other homos who've come on to me recently. All of them sucked my cock, and there was nothing I could do to stop them.

I tell you, when a homosexual is sucking your cock, a lot of strange thoughts go through your head: How the hell did this happen? Where did this fairy ever get the idea that I was gay? And where did he get those fantastic boots?

It screws with your head at other times, too. Every time a man passes me on the street, I'm afraid he's going to grab me and drag me off to some bathroom to suck my cock. I've even started to visualize these repulsive cock-sucking episodes during the healthy, heterosexual marital relations I enjoy with my wife--even some that haven't actually happened, like the sweaty, post-game locker-room tryst with Vancouver Canucks forward Mark Messier that I can't seem to stop thinking about.

Things could be worse, I suppose. It could be women trying to suck my cock, which would be adultery and would make me feel tremendously guilty. As it is, I'm just angry and sickened. But, believe me, that's enough. I don't know what makes these homosexuals mistake me for a guy who wants his cock sucked, and, frankly, I don't want to know. I just wish there were some way to get them to stop.

I've tried all sorts of things, but it's all been to no avail. A few months back, I started wearing an intimidating-looking black leather thong with menacing metal studs in the hopes that it would frighten those faggots off, but it didn't work. In fact, it only seemed to encourage them. Then, I really started getting rough, slapping them around whenever they were sucking my cock, but that failed, too. Even pulling out of their mouths just before ejaculation and shooting sperm all over their face, chest, and hair seemed to have no effect. What do I have to do to get the message across to these swishes?

I swear, if these homosexuals don't take a hint and quit sucking my cock all the time, I'm going to have to resort to drastic measures--like maybe pinning them down to the cement floor of the loading dock with my powerful forearms and working my cock all the way up their butt so they understand loud and clear just how much I disapprove of their unwelcome advances. I mean, you can't get much more direct than that.

Re:Why Do All These Homosexuals Keep Sucking My Co (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#5620938)

Messier's on the rangers, fag

haha (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#5620205)

isn't there some type of PDA icon on slashdot? but theres a picture of a laptop...

Bah. (5, Funny)

0x7F (158643) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620213)

Zaurus 5500 reviews are so 2002. Why, this highly reputable site [slashdot.org] posted their first review nearly a year ago! I think I'll start reading it instead of Slashdot.

So long, suckers! ;-)

Chemical weapons likely to be used in Iraq war (-1, Offtopic)

Try to think about i (661547) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620220)

Not by Saddam of course, but by US forces. [basicint.org]

Re:Chemical weapons likely to be used in Iraq war (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#5620232)

So the US looks better if they carpet bomb a large group of people than if they tear gas them. That's stupid.

Re:Chemical weapons likely to be used in Iraq war (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#5620431)

hmmmm..... i wonder what the intentions of your comment were... whore. i really hate when fags like you do stuff like this. you're bad mouthing the US because they are trying to SAVE lives. You must be the biggest faggot i've ever come accross in my entire life. Tear gas will SAVE lives. Why the heck did you even post that? screw you and your communist fags.

Screw you, communist fags! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#5621131)


I feel much better about myself whenever I call someone I disagree with a fag.

Fag!

HOME SHOPPING NETWORK (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#5620235)

Is a gangbang for capitalists. Trying to fuck workers over at home when they come in from the sweatshops. I hope you all die soon.

I love michael. I think he is the smartest editor out there. He is willing to stick to his communist/socialist guns even in the face of capitalist-American pieces of shit.

Zaurus or penis? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#5620241)

The Zaurus looks very slick, a polished metal looking PDA. There's a translucent plastic flip-up lid over the touchscreen. The whole thing is about 1.5x the length of a deck of playing cards, and about as wide and thick. The stylus slides into a slot,

Wait, are you talking about the Zaurus or your penis?

Good stuff! (4, Funny)

djkitsch (576853) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620242)

I was gonna shell out for one of these for a little recreational..um...let's call it wireless network vulnerability testing...

Re:Good stuff! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#5620275)

The women must we waiting in line to hook up with you. You're so cool.

Re:Good stuff! (1)

djkitsch (576853) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620474)

I have a woman who was impressed by my other innumerable charms, so I no longer have to avoid this kind of thing to get the girls.

Buying a 5500 (3, Informative)

Black Cardinal (19996) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620249)

I missed the offer on HSN by a few hours, so I turned to Ebay. I managed to get one for a pretty good price ($220), but not as cheap as that HSN price.

I'm impatiently waiting for mine to arrive on Monday, according to UPS...

Re:Buying a 5500 (1)

AnonymousCowheart (646429) | more than 10 years ago | (#5621277)

The zaurus is NOT listed on the HSN site, however, if you call them at their 800 number, they can order for you (i just did!:)
1-800-284-3900
The product number is 694341, or they can look it up by keyword dont forget to get your 15% off if you're a new customer-coupons at deal news [dealcoupon.com]

HSN?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#5620257)

After reading the story and comments on Slashdot, I went out and bought one from the Home Shopping Network...

Michael, I think you've been trolled. No, make that I hope you've been trolled.

Dear God (1, Informative)

unterderbrucke (628741) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620260)

Whatever you do, don't buy from HSN. They have no return policy, nor do they have a warranty.

I learned this the hard way when I got my sexy new Palm V three years ago, don't repeat my mistake.

Re:Dear God (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#5620320)

Whatever you do, don't buy from HSN. They have no return policy, nor do they have a warranty.

I know, I know. I tell myself the same thing every night before going to bed. Yet the very next day I always find myself frantically dailing those numbers when the happy-faced person on the TV warns me that they only have a limited supply left and they're going fast!

Re:Dear God (1)

Blaine Hilton (626259) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620428)

Ive seen some "good" buys on there a few times, but have never made an actual purchise. The prices seemed too good and I don't know anyone with good comments, and only 1 person that has shopped with them.

Re:Dear God (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#5620527)

"I am a goat fucker."

-Blaine Hilton, 1996

Re:Dear God (1)

kotj.mf (645325) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620468)

Dunno... my girlfriend is kinda an HSN junkie, and she assures me that their return policy is the shit, if you're willing to call up and holler at them for awhile.

Not that I care, because I used her account to buy mine...

Re:Dear God (4, Informative)

fliplap (113705) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620581)

This is such a troll, a complete troll. They might not have had one 3 years ago, but they have an impressive one now. They take returns and will refund shipping as well. In fact, when I got my Zaurus from them they included a return shipping label!

Please research before you post 3 year old "facts"

MOD UP (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#5620603)

Read the post. Need I say more? Thanks.

Re:Dear God (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#5620661)

What was your first clue? The lie, or the username?
(German)unter der brucke = (English)under the bridge

Yo, moderators! Trolls live under bridges. Get it?
Fucking retards.

A new version of Open Zaurus is out! (5, Informative)

zackZ (649657) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620262)

Check it out at www.openzaurus.org! The GUI is much more slick than Sharp's.

Re:A new version of Open Zaurus is out! (2, Informative)

Minna Kirai (624281) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620835)

Hurray! A slick GUI, in the style of Microsoft Windows XP(tm).

Just look at the new icons [handhelds.org] compared to the old ones [handhelds.org] .

Check out the slick coloring- a cool translucent look for soothing, grey-on-grey symbols with gently blurred edges. They'll be especially good in bright conditions, when the LCD screens of a PDA will reflect back all the ambient light and remove all contrast.

In case he's hosting it on the Zarus (4, Informative)

Unregistered (584479) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620264)

This looks like the kinda site to get /.ed soon. Full article text. he didn't have any pics.

Review of the Sharp Zaurus 5500
Ed Schernau, ed at schernau.com

No, there are no screenshots. I don't have a digital camera. It's all 1 giant page. I don't know if this works with OSX, and I don't care at the moment. It supposedly works with Linux, but I haven't tried it. This review is NOT exhaustive. All copyrights are owned by their owners, blah blah blah, I'm not trying to piss people off.

As seen here on Slashdot, the Sharp Zaurus 5500 recently went on sale at HSN due to the newer, Zaurus 5600 being released. Being a cheap geek, I purchased the 5500 model. First, I'd like to say that I was impressed with HSN - very good pricing, and a 15% off coupon for first time orders. Their website is easy to navigate and quick, and provided accurate package tracking. I paid 178USD for it, delivered.

Here's what you get in the package:

The Zaurus 5500
battery (950 mAh)
Getting started manual
User manual
CD of software and drivers
AC adapter
USB Sync cradle/charger - the cradle has a DC jack that you plug the AC adapter into - it does NOT use the USB port for charging power.

Impressions
The Zaurus looks very slick, a polished metal looking PDA. There's a translucent plastic flip-up lid over the touchscreen. The whole thing is about 1.5x the length of a deck of playing cards, and about as wide and thick. The stylus slides into a slot, there is an IR and SD port on 1 side of the unit, and a headphone jack and CF slot on the top of the unit. The bottom of the unit has the DC power jack and 'Sharp IO port', which is where it mates with its cradle.

Hardware/OS
The Z 5500 runs on the Intel StrongArm processor, running a version of Lineo - embedded Linux. It has a 2.4.6 kernel. Because of this, any Linux software compiled for ARM (like the whole Debian arm tree) will run. You get 64MB of memory, 1/2 of which is locked away by the Z, so you have 32MB to run in. This has not proved to be a problem, yet. It runs Qtopia, an embedded GUI system on a 320x240 color screen. Almost any linux-y thing you can think of, you can do. It has a shell, you can even make swapfiles to increase running memory (at the expense of storage of course). There are init scripts. Repeat after me: It's a miniaturized Linux box. Everything runs as root. It uses ext2fs for main storage, and minix and cramfs for its own purposes. You can type 'mount' to see what's what.

Keyboard
The keyboard is excellent. You hold the Zaurus in both hands and type with your thumbs. Clever use of 'Shift' and 'Function' keys give you nearly QWERTY layout. You can get about 1 letter every 3/4 of a second.

Handwriting
It also does handwriting recognition, in a certain area of the screen. You enable this by hitting a small icon on the screen, and scribble away. I've not spent much time with it, yet. It's fiddly, but not as bad as Palm's Grafiti.

Backlight
Good, but not great. The screen is lit from a flourescent light on the side, which can look weird if you hold the Z at an angle. Some parts of the screen are brighter than others.

Sync
The Z connects to its host via IP over USB. Syncing occurs completely over IP. This is slick, if you get a CF Ethernet card for it, you can (in theory) sync with your system anywhere in the world. My old Palm had a serial cable, so USB seemed like warp speed to me. Save yourself headache - set the Zaurus to NOT use DHCP, likewise your PC system. It defaults to 192.168.129.201, your PC defaults to 192.168.129.1. There's a GUI to configure all of this on the Z.

GUI
Very cool. Touch once to run an app, touch and hold to bring up properties. A combination of thumb and thumbnail will get everything done.

I hooked it up and let it charge for a while, then loaded the software onto my PC. I have Windows2000 running on an ABit BP6 motherboard, with 2 USB 1.0 ports. This may be significant (see below).

Applications
It comes with an addressbook, calendar, to-do list, image viewer, media player and Word/Excel/Powerpoint viewers. The builtin email client is nice, it does IMAP, although it doesn't seem to understand the IMAP folder concept, at least on my CourierIMAP-based email server. It also comes with games - the Solitaire game card deck has penguins on it! Likewise, the icon for the built-in Image Viewer has a penguin on it.

While it was charging, I got online and downloaded some packages that I thought I'd want. Zaurus files come as .ipk files, which are binary packages, similar to RPMs (enhanced tarballs). I grabbed the following packages:

openssh--both client and server
mysql--yes, it really works
apache+php--this works too
perl
sambaserver--so you can plug into your local network
libncurses
smbmount--the Z kernel supports smbfs,
vorbis-plugin--Lets the builtin media play your oggs.
zaurus-fbvncserver--VNC Server for the Z, why type and click on the little screen if you don't have to
zlib
zsafe--An encrypted password protector.

When Windows 2000 detected the cradle, I told it to look for drivers on CD, it installed smoothly. I loaded the Sharp version of the Qtopia desktop apps.

The GUI of the Zaurus is very easy to navigate, and has an Add/Remove Software screen. You install software by dragging the .ipk files to the Documents window on the PC Qtopia desktop. Moments later, they're on the Zaurus. Open up the Add/Remove Software screen, and hit Install Packages, pick the ones you want, and you're done. Restart Qtopia on the Zaurus when you're finished. Obviously, you will run out of space if you dump too much on at once, so install some, go back into your Documents, clean them out, then install more.

OpenSSH was a tarball, so I needed to use the Terminal (not installed by default, its on the software CD) and the keyboard. Untar it, run the install script, you're done - it even tweaks inetd (yes, the Zaurus has inetd running) to start sshd.

You can install packages on the command line, here's a geeky example:

ssh into the Zaurus
smbmount //your.PC.IP.address/theshare /mnt/smb -o username=YourUserName
(now enter your password)
ipkg install /mnt/smb/vorbis-plugin
ipkg install /mnt/smb/zlib
ipkg install /mnt/smb/perl
etc.

On the Zaurus, under the Settings Tab, restart Qtopia. Done!

Internet Access
I'm behind a NAT firewall, here's what I did to surf the Web on the Zaurus (it comes with Opera)

adjust the registry on my Win2000 box to enable IP routing
adjust the IPTables rules on my firewall to permit 192.168.129.0/24 outbound
added a static route to the 192.168.129.0/24 network via my Windows2000 computer's Ethernet network IP address

ssh into the Zaurus
route add -net 0.0.0.0/0 gw 192.168.129.1
adjust /etc/resolv.conf to use a nameserver of your choice

Try surfing on the Zaurus. Don't take it out of the cradle, you'll lose your connection - do it via your SSH shell.

CF / SD / MMC Cards
Don't bother with CF memory cards - you'll need the CF slot for your NIC. They make both wired and wireless models. SD cards are a bit faster, and more robust, but tend to be more expensive. Shop around though. The Zaurus ignores any write protection and copyright protection on them, so they're just regular memory. Also, the Zaurus does not access SD cards in their 'fast' mode, so they are functionally identical to MMC cards. If you have another system, however, that reads SD cards at 'high speed' then it might be worth it. Again, look to the cost. Amazon.com has some pretty cheap cards at the moment. I haven't exhausted the storage on mine yet, with everything installed, I have about 14 out of 28 MB free. You lose about 4MB of storage to the Zaurus itself. If you're going to store mp3s or oggs, its another story.

Problems
Occasionally, the Zaurus will just 'go away' while plugged into my Windows2000 computer. It occurs more often when I am sending ogg or mp3 files to it - small file transfers seem OK. My sessions to the Z will die, and the SL 'network interface' on my PC will disappear. No amount of hitting the sync button or re-inserting the Zaurus will make it work. I have to reboot the 2000 machine to get it back. I'm thinking its a bad or weird USB port issue. 'dmesg' on the Zaurus shows all kinds of CRC32 receive errors and packet size errors. It runs fine on my Windows98 Compaq laptop. Go figure.

Once, it crashed - I was syncing some large files to the Zaurus, and it hung. The screen went weird, and the Zaurus completely locked. I had to do a hard reset - flip the battery switch from 'normal' to 'remove battery' and the power gets cut. Flip the switch back, and you can reboot. On reboot, it went through a traditional fsck routine, and rose like Lazarus.

I couldn't get Nmap to run - it always produced 'bus errors'.

There seems to be no way to do a text-file import into the Address book, only FROM the Address book (LDIF file). Annoying. It's all XML-based, so I could write a script to rewrite a CSV file into XML I guess.

OpenZaurus
This will completely replace the stock components with open source ones. There are some benefits, and some caveats. I haven't gotten this brave yet.

Websites
http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus Huge software archive
http://ipkgfind.handhelds.org Another huge archive
http://www.google.com Google is your friend

Conclusion
Loving it. It's been very entertaining. The Scrabble game is very smart. It's nice to have a good address book again. The color screen is a welcome upgrade from the Palm I had. If you can find one on clearance, grab it. Remember, its a tiny Linux machine - run a Webserver via a wireless CF card, run MySQL, run anything you want.

Page updated on March 27, 2003

Re:In case he's hosting it on the Zarus (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#5620576)

His page's HTML markup makes my head hurt. I've never seen anything so stupid in my life! He's using <span> and <big> with CSS markup instead of the less verbose, more appropriate structural markup. He separates his paragraphs with line breaks (<br>) instead of the <p> tag... shit, FrontPage would have done a better job than this.

Karma whore alert (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#5620577)

This is a karma whore. The site isn't showing any signs of being slashdotted. Why? Because it is a static page with no pictures or scripts. It is well known that the slashdot effect usually only affects pages with large amounts of pictures or an active script/database.

In short, mod down this karma whore.

Root? (1)

jmt9581 (554192) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620276)

Does everything really run as root? What's up with that?

Not anymore (as of the 5600) (2, Informative)

JeremyR (6924) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620296)

I don't know much about these devices (yet), but I do remember reading about the changes from the 5500 to the 5600, and one of them is that it's no longer necessary to run everything as root. The 5600 looks pretty sweet...

Cheers,
Jeremy

Re:Root? (3, Informative)

rusty0101 (565565) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620308)

Yes, everything runs as root. No need for a root kit, etc.

There is an app for th Z that gives you a login screen, I have not tested it, so I do not know if it provides user-id with different privledges than root.

This is functionally a single user multi-tasking device. It happens to run a multi-user capable OS, however that does not require that that feature be used.

Does this create potential problems? Sure. However the system files can not be removed by the user, though certain configuration files can. Even so, if you really care, you can reset the platform to it's original (or last flash rom) state by completely draining the battery. Make regular backups to cf memory.

-Rusty

Re:Root? (1)

Unregistered (584479) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620364)

It's considered ok since it's not connected to the net much. It's still a bad idea, especially if someone starts selling cell modems for it (or do such already exist). It does make the syste a lot easier to use for the average user, though. I think a system like apple has would be better, though.

Re:Root? (2, Insightful)

Minna Kirai (624281) | more than 10 years ago | (#5621025)

It is a very bad idea, because those devices are advertised [sharpmobile.com] as using frequent, wireless network access.

This is especially bad because the default root password is "". And changing the root password breaks the default sync software!

If you bring a Zaurus running the OEM software into a location offering 802.11b wireless, you can easily be rooted by any script kiddy who recognizes your PDA.

Zauruses are so obscure that this risk is low, today, but it's still a major design problem. Hopefully, the 5600 version has fixed this. The software patch for the prior model was inadequate.

Re:Root? (1)

gearheadsmp (569823) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620591)

The SL-5500 runs as root, but the newer SL-5600 [sharpusa.com] runs as a normal user.

Did it as well... (4, Informative)

FatRatBastard (7583) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620287)

I jumped on the HSN deal as well and incredibly short review: I like it. I'm not much of a PDA person (had a palm, played with it for a week, just sold it on eBay) but its worth its weight in gold for its wireless ability (with appropriate CF wireless adapter). My GF *always* grabs my iBook when she's at my place, now I can go back to surfing on the couch. Its also easier to carry to the local coffee shop (that has free access) so I can grab a cuppa tea and flame idiots on Plastic.

For me, for $160 (+$80 for the wireless card) it's been $$$ well spent.

Re:Did it as well... (1)

FatRatBastard (7583) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620328)

Oh, one niggly thing that does suck, the IMAP feature on the Mail app reads everything in my entire account (on my server), not just the mail files. As far as I can tell there's no way to subscribe/unsubscribe to all of the non-mail files that it tries to download. Anyone know how to get around this?

Re:Did it as well... (2, Informative)

spencerogden (49254) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620375)

Many times there is an option to set the mail root. Just set this to the directory your mail is stored in. I assume you mean it is downloading you whole home directory, and that you don't have random files in you mail directory.

Re:Did it as well... (1)

FatRatBastard (7583) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620393)

Unfortunatly there's no option at setting the mail root :(

Ms. Grabby-hands (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#5620387)

My GF *always* grabs my iBook when she's at my place...

Man, sucks to be you. My GF always grabs a certain something of mine that's way more fun when she's at my place!

Re:Did it as well... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#5620505)

Hahahahaha, fag. You have an iBook and you feel the need to mentiony ou have a girlfriend.
Admit you suck cock and take it deep in the ass.

I also bought an HSN special (4, Interesting)

Speare (84249) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620312)

I also grabbed a Zaurus 5500 from the HSN special. Guess those paid-u-tainment slash-vertisements work.

First thing I did was to look for the terminal package. One version came on the CDs, so I installed that.

Second thing I did was to find the OpenZaurus installer (now 3.1-rc3.1), but after finding with several problematic .ipk's from the Zaurus Software Index, I went back to the stock Sharp ROM image. Can you imagine holding the C and D chicklet keys on one side, and poking a recessed reset button on the other? All with the DC power plug attached? I had to do this operation a few times in my experiments, and I can safely say they chose a combination quite apt at avoiding the accidental re-flash.

I still haven't gotten the USB networking worked out. It apparently needs the usbdnet module, which is not in the Red Hat stock kernels (latest errata nor the last beta). I prefer to stick to my distro's official kernels, rather than rebuilding a kernel just so I can ssh to a pda. Maybe eventually.

I noticed that if I install a new ipk file, it restarts Qtopia, which loses the icons for any other already-running tasks. (ps aux) still shows the tasks, they just have no gui anymore.

I noticed that if I click an app button to switch away from the terminal, some key cruft like ~3 or ~4 appears in the terminal. Also, if the unit gets suspended (low power, power off button, etc.), then whatever console app was running gets sent to the background and I have to (fg 1) when I return. This screws up some console programs which don't have a convenient "redraw all" key for when you return. (Example app: frotz.)

I noticed that the text editor opens to what looks like an empty note which is ready for typing, but no, it's in a no-document state and you must tap for a "New" text document before starting.

I figured out how to retrain the handwriting, but not sure how often I'll use it. The real keyboard, virtual keyboard and pickboard are quite enough for text entry, thanks. Weird that you can tap the Fn key prefix then tap the desired key for a function, but you have to HOLD a shift key while tapping a letter. Supporting tap-shift-tap-letter would probably been nicer given the form factor.

I would never have purchased this kind of device anywhere near its original price-- it's a toy to me, not a tool. But it's worth the money I put into it.

Re:I also bought an HSN special (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#5620486)

Here's how I do it: hold C&D with your fingers, and put the stylus in your mouth and poke the reset button. Then gently put everything down.

Agree about the shift-letter thing .. sometimes I'm typing with one hand.

Hunt down the "tapboard" ipkg for an IBM-ATOMIK style onscreen keyboard that's organized so common letters are clustored together. Much faster once you are used to it.

Hunt down the embedded Konsole package with the wrap/ no wrap toggler, that's the best.

Also, buy a copy of tkcCard, which is a little mini-database that lets you make forms and fill them out with data. VERY handy and an app I use all the time, for shopping lists, todo lists, anything else that requires data collection.

Nice tech review of the Zaurus (4, Informative)

zackZ (649657) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620316)

http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=5902 and follow up on http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6184

But does it run Linux? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#5620318)

But does it run linux?

Re:But does it run Linux? (1)

MazTaim (1376) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620588)

Yes it does. Read..well..just about anything on www.zaurus.com/dev.

Re:But does it run Linux? (0)

master0ne (655374) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620778)

im gonna get one just to see if i can get linux to install on it! i bet it will run 10x better with linux on it.... oh wait, has that been done yet? i think im a little late......

Yeah... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#5620928)

... and just imagine a beowolf cluster of these things!

difference of opinion... (4, Interesting)

rusty0101 (565565) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620361)

In my own opinion, CF memory has two handy features that make it a reasonable purchase.

First of all, my Z runs with a wifi card in the CF slot most of the time. However I have several situations where that is of little or no use. My low-power cf card does not support Kismet, so I can not use it to scan for open nets. For the most part I do not need the additional battery drain either.

When I do not need the wifi card, I have found that having a couple of hours of music on a 128M cf memory card can help while away longer bus rides, without affecting how much application space is available on my SD card.

Also I have several CF interfaces for my computers, being able to read/write the CF to transfer stuff when I don't want to use a wifi card is also handy.

As noted in the article sd/mmc cards cost more and tend to have lower capacity than CF cards.

As a last note, there are bluetooth interfaces built to run in sd/mmc slots, which may be of interest to people using blutooth enabled network, phone, printer, or even headset devices. In that case the memory expansion opportunity would be the CF slot.

Then again, that's just my opnion. You will have to make up your own mind.

-Rusty

Re:difference of opinion... (1)

iabervon (1971) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620481)

Lots of people have digital cameras with CF storage, which means that the CF slot is, for me, a frequent swap with other people's cards, to get copies of pictures. I actually usually have a wifi card slightly out of the CF slot (to save power when I'm not actually using the network). I think the CF slot works best for swapping things around, whereas the SD card is my more serious storage. On the SD vs MMC front, I'd get MMC if I didn't already have one, because SD requires a close-source driver, which means you can't change the kernel version unless the driver maker happens to produce a new binary for the version you're switching to.

OpenZaurus (4, Informative)

jaaron (551839) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620363)

If you have a Zaurus, at some point you really should check out OpenZaurus [sourceforge.net] , which is a complete replacement ROM. If you have a CompactFlash card, then making the switch is very easy and if you don't like it, it's also trivial to switch back to Sharp's ROM. So my suggestion is to try it out early before you get too comfortable and spend a lot of time setting up the PDA just the way you like it.

Re:OpenZaurus (2, Insightful)

Zeinfeld (263942) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620462)

If you have a CompactFlash card, then making the switch is very easy and if you don't like it, it's also trivial to switch back to Sharp's ROM. So my suggestion is to try it out early before you get too comfortable and spend a lot of time setting up the PDA just the way you like it.

Err perhaps someone could explain to me what is better about openZaurus, I mean apart from knowing that nobody made any money out of writing the code why am i meant to think this a good thing?

Does it have a better version of mastermind? a better jpg viewer that might allow me to see large pictures direct off my digital camera in full screen mode (can't rotate is a lame excuse, like what stops the thing just swapping X and Y coordinates on display).

The problem I have with my zaurus is that is does not work with my wireless card. Damn thing simply won't recognise my home network.

Anyone ported PocketPC to Zaurus?

How about Microsoft Bob?

Re:OpenZaurus (3, Interesting)

jaaron (551839) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620536)

Err perhaps someone could explain to me what is better about openZaurus,

Let me put it this way: About two weeks ago I tried out the very latest ROM. I found the ROM itself was stable, but nothing installed properly on it and I ended up going back to Sharp's ROM because there were apps I simply had to have running. Final impression: OZ is really nice and I only plan on staying on a Sharp ROM until I find that OZ can run these other 3rd party apps (which should be now since the new release is out). I was extremely disappointed to find I couldn't use OZ right away, but I've been anxiously awaiting this latest release so I can move over to OZ permanently.

If you want to know all the specifics about why OZ is better, you should check out their site [sourceforge.net] . However, the biggest reason I would suggest OZ is because it's actively being developed. Sharp has only offered bug fixes for it's ROM. OZ is steadily getting better, which means you'll see improvements and new features. So as far as I'm concerned, Sharp's ROM is a dead end while OZ is quite alive.

Re:OpenZaurus (1)

Zeinfeld (263942) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620764)

If you want to know all the specifics about why OZ is better, you should check out their site [sourceforge.net].

Err, what makes you think I didn't. The site did not state one single benefit of openZaurus over the original install.

As for the 'stability' you state, I have never had a single stability problem with my Zaurus, the 802.11b card does not work but the system is 'stable'. So more stability but apps not running is not my definition of improvement.

Re:OpenZaurus (1)

Minna Kirai (624281) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620907)

The site did not state one single benefit of openZaurus over the original install.

They tried to give some reasons [openzaurus.org] , although it's true that their website design isn't perfect. It could easily be much more informative.

However, the official Zaurus support site [zaurus.com] is even more audience-hostile. (It's a litany of website-usability errors)

Re:OpenZaurus (3, Informative)

Minna Kirai (624281) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620894)

Err perhaps someone could explain to me what is better about openZaurus

For one thing, it can have reliable TCP/IP. It may depend on the specific networking hardware (USB to Linux, or WinXP, or a CF ethernet or 802.11b card) you're trying to use, but the Sharp-supplied ROMs often simply give up on transmitting after 100kB or so (and then won't re-initialize until after a reboot).

Other kinds of hardware compatibilty and stability were also improved in OpenZaurus (although the recent release-candiates introduced several random bugs, hopefully the 3.2 release has fixed them)

The major design change with OpenZaurus is that the main filesystem is stored in Flash memory, rather than just RAM like on the original ROMs (or on a Palm). This means that if your system crashes (or loses power), files like your addressbook and network card settings are preserved.

(The normal Sharp ROMs only write to flash during the special "reflashing" process to upgrade the ROM, but OpenZaurus can modify it at any time. This could possibly create a risk of hardware failure, as flash memory has limited reusability)

a better jpg viewer that might allow me to see large pictures direct off my digital camera in full screen mode

The viewer can scale and rotate. However, it's decompression algorithm might not be efficient enough to unpack a full 1600x1200 JPG without exhausting your system RAM. (There are commerical viewers which can definately cope)

The problem I have with my zaurus is that is does not work with my wireless card.

OpenZaurus is known to work pretty well with this. Of course, the Sharp ROMs often handled it decently too (although they split the network configuration across several applets, making you go through more steps to set it up)

Re:OpenZaurus (1)

Herodotus (66926) | more than 10 years ago | (#5621309)

"limited reusability" - this kind of scares me. What exactly does that mean?

Re:OpenZaurus (1)

josecanuc (91) | more than 10 years ago | (#5621299)

I was first hestant to install the OpenZaurus ROM on mine, having had it for only a few days. I took the plunge finally and the difference is quite astonishing, in my opinion.

One thing I noticed right off is that the GUI feels much faster and smoother than the stock Sharp ROM. The 'Patience' solitaire game has a card-flipping graphical cutesie and with the OZ ROM, it's definitely smoother.

Another change is that OpenSSH is pre-installed; a nice addition. I guess the main benefit is active development of the OZ system. It's good to know that you can really get in touch with the developers and get into real discussion about various features.

It's hard to really quantify, but just using the OZ ROM feels better, both from a PDA standpoint and a Linux-user standpoint. It's more familiar feeling.

Some useful links (4, Informative)

WotanKhan (150429) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620376)

I got in on the HSN deal and picked up a couple Zaurii? for me and a buddy. I'm absolutely thrilled with it. Currently working my way through this excellent guide [linuxdevices.com] (key tip: pipe is shift-enter).

Some more useful links:
Zaurus DevNet forums [zaurus.com]
The Zaurus Notebook (tips and tricks) [zaurus.com]
Zaurus Loves Linux [loveslinux.com]

Now what I really want, is a portable device to connect the usb cable from the phone described in this article [slashdot.org] to the Zaurus dataport.

Re:Some useful links (4, Informative)

jaaron (551839) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620388)

Don't forget this great documentation site (for developers _and_ users): Sharp Zaurus Developer Information [zaurus.com]

How about a review (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#5620377)

of the IBM WorkPad z50?

sheesh

Never mind the SL-5500 or SL-5600 (3, Interesting)

Microlith (54737) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620380)

Sometime while I'm in Japan for the next year I'm going to buy an SL-C700.

All the features of the SL-5600 with a nice big screen and full keyboard.

I know Dynamism wants $700 for theirs, but if you can get it for less, there are guides online that have reverse engineered their localization process. I don't know what their markup is but I've seen it put at around $200 (!!)

doh (1)

(startx) (37027) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620406)

I just bought mine at the same time, for the same reason, and I'm in the process of writing a review I was going to post to /., damn you! oh well, guess I can find better things to do...

i m wating for the sharp (1)

stonebeat.org (562495) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620409)

i m wating for the sharp that i saw in the linuxworld expo in NY. It was kinda slick, but too bad it is only available in Japan right now.

UK source? (1)

FrostedWheat (172733) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620425)

Does anyone know of a good source for these devices in the UK? They seem very expensive over here! (dabs.com @ £233 / $368 US).

I got one too (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#5620427)

I was in the market for a laptop so I could read email, surf, and SSH from anywhere (including when on the shitter). Wanted WiFi as well.

But then the HSN special came up, and DAMN I had to try it out.

It's a very cool device which is perfect for my needs but a little lacking as a general purpose PDA. However it has a LOT of potential.

Hint: don't bother with OpenZaurus unless you like to experiment. It breaks everything. Stick with the stock ROM if you want to use PIM functions. I had problems with Opera, Konqurer, TheKompany's apps, and pretty much anything that didn't come with OZ. Too bad, because the base components of OZ are much better than the stock ROM (for instance it actually shows how much battery you have left as %-age).

I set up wireless, set it up to do backups with rsync+SSH, and to NFS mount my MP3 directory. I have it running through my privoxy proxy, filtering out ads and cookies... Sweeeeeeeeet!

Hint: to set up your WCF12 card (if you have one of those), set up syslog to log somewhere, run syslog, and plug in your card. You'll see the necessary parameters to set up the card in the logs.

Another hint: DON'T EVER REBOOT FROM THE GUI .. about 1/10 of the time it will lock up and you have to hard reset (clears the memory!). Do the following:

1) quit Qtopia
2) while it's counting down, hit '/'
3) hit 'a' at the menu to get a console login
4) log in
5) type "telinit 6"

Be sure to back up often anyway, since your stuff is stored in a ramdisk.

Anyway this is LOTS of fun for linux geeks, I haven't had this much fun since I installed OS X (UNIX COMMAND LINE.. ON A MAC??? AND NOW ON A PDA??? *spurt*). In fact I often think to myself.. whoa...what if APPLE made one of these bad boys with Mac OS X and apps that "just work" .. that would rock.

Unfortunately it doesn't work with OS X / iSync but you can at least set up USB networking with this driver [lucid-cake.net] . Tell Apple you'd like them to support the zaurus, since many Zaurus geeks are probably also OS X geeks!

Anyway, these things are super-fun .. give 'em a couple more years to improve (software, processor speed, battery life) and they will positively ROCK. Hopefully now that more folks are using them there will be more software. I'm personally looking out for an RSS newsreader and a simple outliner (like OmniOutliner on the mac). Also an SFTP graphical client would be cool.

Re:I got one too (1)

iabervon (1971) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620495)

If you switch the battery change switch off and on, you'll reboot without clearing the ramdisk, which may or may not be sufficient. Didn't figure this out until I'd hard reset (with the button inside the compartment) several times.

There's something really weird about seeing a machine fscking a ramdisk.

Re:I got one too (1)

Poeir (637508) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620656)

1) quit Qtopia
2) while it's counting down, hit '/'
3) hit 'a' at the menu to get a console login
4) log in
5) type "telinit 6"

And it's just that easy! :)

OpenZaurus is the killer app (4, Informative)

AirLace (86148) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620439)

I've had my Zaurus 5500 for about a year now, but only recently switched to the OpenZaurus firmware. It's faster and more polished than the firmware that comes with the Zaurus, with the advantage of being constantly updated and running better Free Software equivalents like Konqueror Embedded. It's just a matter of copying the ROM images to CF and rebooting the Zaurus to flash the ROM; I'd recommend it to any Zaurus owner, including the author of the article.

where to get one cheap? (1)

DCZX (640106) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620453)

Anyone know where to find one cheap now? also, how much will the 5600 be?

but not as bad as Palm's Grafiti (1)

exp(pi*sqrt(163)) (613870) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620463)

What is he talking about? I bought my first Palm, 6 or 7 years ago, because of Graffiti and I'm yet to see such a reliable text recognition system on any other device. Admittedly it does take 30 minutes or so to learn and a reviewer too lazy to include a picture of the device being reviewed might not have the attention span for that.

Re:but not as bad as Palm's Grafiti (1)

Jacer (574383) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620685)

I think the reason that there wasn't a picture is because he wanted to avoid getting slashdotted. Even so, function over fashion, hombre.

I got 1 from HSN too (1)

WestieDog (592175) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620499)

I love my new $180 HSN zaurus! I love all of the remote admin tasks that I can use the zaurus for. Right now I'm addicted to playing doom (prboom) on it with full midi sound trak! I also get a kick out of runnig the doom server for other players to game on. :)

Zaurus 5600 (2, Informative)

YahoKa (577942) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620530)

FYA, your modern PDA is outdated ... out-dated [sharp-usa.com] .

Re:Zaurus 5600 (1)

Adam9 (93947) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620637)

RTFA. He said that he got a 5500 because its price was lowered from the announcement of the 5600.

I want! Dammit bothersome $$ (1)

miketang16 (585602) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620552)

If I were to get another PDA, I've had and sold 3, I would get a Zaurus without a second thought. I think it's the best looking PDA on the market, plus it runs my favorite OS ;) .
Alas, for the time being I must be confined to writing an imitation Linux shell for my Ti-89... =\ O well.. hopefully I'm getting paid soon... =)

Does the Zaurus support the Ratoc USB Host CF? (1)

sstidman (323182) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620579)

I also bought the SL-5500 on HSN. I am also very happy.

My one complaint is that I can't hookup the SL-5500 to my cell phone, a Samsung SPH-N400. My cell phone has no way to connect to a regular serial port, but it does have a USB cable to connect to a USB host. The host computer can than use the cell phone as a modem to connect to the Internet using Sprint PCS's Vision network. The only way I have thought of to connect the phone to the PDA would be to use this CF USB Host adaptor [ratocsystems.com] to give the Zaurus a USB host port. I can't find anything that suggests whether the Zaurus supports this device or not. Anyone have any idea if the Zaurus supports the Ratoc USB Host CF adaptor? I think that adaptor sells for $150, so I'm not keen on buying it until I have a reason to believe it will work.

Another "HSN special too!" And a great toy! (2, Interesting)

badfrog (45310) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620615)

I lucked out, and ordered mine a few hours earlier than the article came out on slashdot. (www.slickdeals.net - probably giving a good secret away.) I actually had 2 hours to research it before deciding to buy it.

Mostly I bought this since besides my old Palm III that I use for a remote control at home, I am PDA-less. The crowd at our M$ shop at work are all getting PocketPC's. So far I've been able to prove it's worthiness except to those with the brand-spanking-new ones. But for the price, I have them all whipped.

I immediately bought a 256MB SD card, since even if this turned out useless, I could find another use for the memory card. There was a spare CF wireless card at work (D-Link DCF-650W). It DHCP'ed instantly. My only complaint is that when it's in you have no access to insert or remove the stylus. I tried someone else's thinner 660W, which gives access to the stylus, and that worked equally as well.

I spent the first day with it getting Kismet to work, making the guy with netstumbler on his laptop jealous.

Next, I had to try the Quake port. Yes, it's neat, since it's Quake on a PDA, but don't bother doing anything with it other than saying "Look! It's Quake! On a PDA!"

I must say, the most novel thing is being able to telnet and VNC to it. I find Zsafe extremely useful. I've yet in my position to need access to e-mail on a PDA, since at home I already have access. Wardriving with it is great. This has proven to be an extremely worthwhile toy.

A terrorist weapon if I've ever seen one! (5, Funny)

Sir Network (183139) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620640)

I mean, read the review:
-Portable web server
-Wireless networking capable
-SSH
-Able to connect by USB or LAN

This will be a tool at the disposal of every al Qaeda foot soldier and Iraqi intelligence officer.
Sharp must be stopped and sanctioned for this negligence.
My God... think of the children, man!
Good thing I have Homeland Security on speed dial.

Re:A terrorist weapon if I've ever seen one! (0, Troll)

fdawg (22521) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620802)

You are the same kind of Soccer Mom, Flake, uninformed, nazi, biggot that I encounter daily driving in the left lane in a mini-van going 10 under the speed limit.

Terrorists are terrorists because they use TECHONOLOGY against you. Then again we "free" denizens of this fair country depend on TECHNOLOGY to protect us.

Its thinking like this that slows down innovation. How you've been modded to 3 blows my mind. I sometimes wonder if "Moderator" is just a code word for "uninformed".

If one was to actually believe you, then one would also be able to argue that cars should be abolished, the toaster can be used for biological warfare and should be outlawed, and that lawncare should be handed over soley to the government for fear of the misuse of fertilizer.

If i were you, Id get to the point and stick my head in the sand. You are probably better off that way and the world at large would thank you. Not to mention you'd be safe if the sky fell.

Re:A terrorist weapon if I've ever seen one! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#5620941)

Get this through your head. That was a troll. You have been trolled. Get over it. And get a brain!

Re:A terrorist weapon if I've ever seen one! (1)

NiceGeek (126629) | more than 10 years ago | (#5621161)

Sigh...it's sarcasm man...ever hear of it?

I took the plunge, too. (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620703)

I've put off getting a PDA for ages, usually what I like costs way more than I want to pay. Now I'm going to get all these little pieces of paper together and enter phone nums, email addrs, snailmail addrs, etc. into this baby. It's pretty cool, though the battery certainly has too short a life to play games on it. I've looked around and batteries are ~50$US. I figure I'll get one next month. Big project will be finding a way to connect it to my Garmin ETrex :-)

ROFL (-1, Offtopic)

2057 (600541) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620712)

LOL, You watch the home shopping network, worse u purchase electronics of it!

I owned one for three months (2, Insightful)

prostoalex (308614) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620725)

I used to own a Sharp Zaurus, but then sold mine used and got a Dell Axim. Here're some impressions:

What's wrong with Sharp Zaurus [epinions.com] - mainly battery life, applications crashing when dealing with lartge documents, inconvenient thumb keyboard.

What's good and bad about Dell Axim [epinions.com] - mainly problems with battery reporting, problems with ActiveSync and infamous battery reporting bug.

I'm another of the HSN-Zaurus people (1)

jasonditz (597385) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620827)

I wonder how many Zaurii HSN sold that day, everyone and their uncle seems to have acquired one.

Here's a little word to the wise if you're looking for 802.11b access. Do NOT buy a Linksys WCF12 card if you're planning on using the Sharp ROM. It doesn't work out of the box and requires a LOT of trial and error to get functioning. Save yourself a headache and get one that's listed in /etc/pcmcia/wlan-ng.conf

I wish I'd done that, would've saved me a couple hours of vi on that little tiny keyboard.

Word Game (1)

notjonny (172644) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620896)

A few reviewers have said they like the word game. It does not have the same letter values or frequency distribution as the "proprietary" cross word game, there are no blanks, you can't pass, it doesn't use OSPD3 and I don't see how to substitute your own word list. The other really annoying feature is the fact that relatively few different starting racks come up. The lack of randomness is pretty lame. ...and it is relatively easy to beat. You can add words by telling it to accept them as they come up, but it would take a while for it to learn that way. If you tell it to ignore the word, then it doesn't "know" that word giving you an advantage. I couldn't figure out who wrote this and if there is a more complete version available.... or better yet the source. Of course there is a good text version of Scrabble written for Linux, but the GUI is nice.

As for the Zaurus itself, its great, but why are the screen colors so washed out? It has almost no yellow. Is this just my particular unit or are they all like that?

OK, I need to get a life......

Re:Word Game (1)

badfrog (45310) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620942)

Heh, I haven't even gotten to the word game yet! Guess Kismet and quake was more of a priority. I'll have to try it.

New discovery, but old news to current PDA users. (1)

badfrog (45310) | more than 10 years ago | (#5620981)

Also, today I realized that while using this on the work wireless network (no URL monitoring)... I can use my Zaurus to browse Monster.com without it being displayed on my monitor as people walked by.
Instead I must have looked like I was worried about imminent tasks and appointments!

And now to the porno sites....

They're not sold out! (2, Informative)

bsa3 (200) | more than 10 years ago | (#5621028)

Call 'em up on the phone -- (800) 284 3100. Give them the item number (694341) and you can order. They've got thousands, but for some reason it's not on the web site right now. Unfortunately, the 15% off coupon is web-only, but you can use 594321 to get $15 off.

FYI (1)

AnonymousCowheart (646429) | more than 10 years ago | (#5621054)

The zaurus is NOT listed on the HSN site, however, if you call them at their 800 number, they can order for you (i just did!:)
1-800-284-3900
The product number is 694341, or they can look it up by keyword
dont forget to get your 15% off if you're a new customer-coupons at: deal news [dealcoupon.com]

Wah! (2, Funny)

MousePotato (124958) | more than 10 years ago | (#5621055)

I'm not buying one of these (or any pda for that matter) until it is smart enough to tell me that the stylus is more than three feet from it and is danger of being lost.

graffiti (1)

jalfreize (173125) | more than 10 years ago | (#5621080)

One cool thing I liked about the Zaurus was that the 'graffiti' mode also provided word completion, something which Palm's overlooked.

Alternatives to the SL-5500 (2, Informative)

sstidman (323182) | more than 10 years ago | (#5621108)

I just stumbled upon this page with some alternatives to the SL-5500:

That's the first I've heard of OpenPDA. Anyone know if their claim is true that the Sharp Zaurus uses their software?

Routing on W2K (1)

Hard_Code (49548) | more than 10 years ago | (#5621184)

Internet Access

I'm behind a NAT firewall, here's what I did to surf the Web on the Zaurus (it comes with Opera)

adjust the registry on my Win2000 box to enable IP routing
adjust the IPTables rules on my firewall to permit 192.168.129.0/24 outbound
added a static route to the 192.168.129.0/24 network via my Windows2000 computer's Ethernet network IP address

ssh into the Zaurus
route add -net 0.0.0.0/0 gw 192.168.129.1
adjust /etc/resolv.conf to use a nameserver of your choice

Try surfing on the Zaurus. Don't take it out of the cradle, you'll lose your connection - do it via your SSH shell.


Can somebody please elaborate on this. I would like to do the same but have read docs that say that "Internet Connection Sharing" doesn't work right, and I'd rather just not use it.

Are there step by step instructions for what to edit in the registry and how to add the routes to W2K?

Re:Routing on W2K (1)

Hard_Code (49548) | more than 10 years ago | (#5621253)

Ok, this url (http://www.wown.info/j_helmig/w2kprout.htm) shows how to enable routing. I *think* it is working (I see the blinkenlights in the taskbar), but I don't think packets are coming back from the nat/router...
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