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First Certified DivX/DVD Player Released

timothy posted more than 11 years ago | from the catch-and-press-release dept.

Hardware 272

An anonymous reader writes "According to this article, a company named KiSS Technology announced at CeBit that they are releasing the first certified DivX DVD players, the DP-450 and DP-500! They are supposed to be able to playback ALL versions of DivX content and digital rights management. I'm completely stoked on this, I would buy one of these in a snap. This could make the purchase of dvd burners slow down in my opinion." (And Yes, it plays Ogg Vorbis, too.) Ebay imports, anyone?

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Old News (5, Funny)

disneyfan1313 (138976) | more than 11 years ago | (#5622951)

I mean .. Come on.. Circuit City tried this years ago.. Silly Slashdot

:)

Hi (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5622974)

Is there some sort of reward for pointing out that something is "old news"?

I'm wondering because every single slashdot story has at least one person declaring the subject to be old news.

Re:Hi (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5622985)

Hi. That was called sarcasam.. Thus the :)

Re:Hi (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5622999)

It's a joke. There is Divx ;) and Divx or whatever the spelling is. One is a failed DVD rental system and the other is a hacked MPEG 4 codec.

Re:Hi (4, Informative)

David_Bloom (578245) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623053)

Actually, Divx;) is the name of the hacked MPEG4 codec (versions 3.x and below). Divx is the name of the rental system and the legal (versions 4.x and above) version of the codec, which isn't just a hack of Microsoft's MPEG4.

(Just a little clarification/correction)

Re:Old News (1)

sardonic2 (576701) | more than 11 years ago | (#5622994)

That was Divix, that crappy rent a dvd and dial in and if it verifies you can play it service. Keep the dvd and its just trash because after so many times it expires. That lasted about a week.

Re:Old News (1)

sardonic2 (576701) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623021)

yeah actually it was Divx sorry. It stopped in late 1999 so that is old news ;)

Excellent timing! (-1)

PedoPeteTownshend (641098) | more than 11 years ago | (#5622957)

I've just received several hardcore 'lolita' DivX files, containing girls no older than 12 being forced to fellate their fathers.

This now means I'll be able to watch them from the comfort of my own recliner whilst wanking.

It's truly a great time to be associated with Piracy Codecs.

Re:Excellent timing! (1)

noeffred (594971) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623051)

Even if this is going to ruin my karma, but, YOU'RE DISGUSTING YOU DUMB FUCK!

Yeah. Wicked. (3, Insightful)

torpor (458) | more than 11 years ago | (#5622958)

Nothing like being sold something you could build yourself in a few hours...

Re:Yeah. Wicked. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5623078)

Bullshit. %99 of people couldn't build this if they're life depended on it. And those that can, already have.

Re:Yeah. Wicked. (1)

torpor (458) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623127)


I bet that a fairly large % of the people that read /. could put this together.

Thus, it isn't bullshit. We're not talking about "people", we're talking within the context of /., which accounts for the %1 who can.

Re:Yeah. Wicked. (1)

su007 (530279) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623139)

True. However it would be nice to have a standard sized/colored unit that you do not have to wait to boot up, or worry about crashing. Especially if you are running Windows on your media box. Also hopefully you will not have to worry about things such as power supply problems, fans going bad, etc.

Re:Yeah. Wicked. (1)

eXtro (258933) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623168)

But can you build it in a form factor as small as a normal DVD player? Will it stick out like a sore thumb in your living room like a bog-standard PC would? Will the fan be incessantly humming? If you can really meet these criteria point me at the motherboard and especially the case.

Ok, I'll bite. (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5622962)

Why? Why do you need a player that plays DivX movies when the main thing people use DivX for is to rip DVDs and trade them? Are you going to rip your own DVDs and watch them in a crappier format?

Re:Ok, I'll bite. (5, Insightful)

igotmybfg (525391) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623000)

No. You'll download movies in DivX format, burn them onto CDR, and play those on this uber-player.

Re:Ok, I'll bite. (2, Funny)

JeffSh (71237) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623024)

ding ding ding, we have a winner.

Re:Ok, I'll bite. (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5623083)

But that's illegal!

Re:Ok, I'll bite. (2, Insightful)

Flounder (42112) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623214)

So is that MP3 player you use to play the downloaded music. What's your point?

Re:Ok, I'll bite. (1, Interesting)

gleam (19528) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623091)

except that the "scene" releases are now almost 95% of the time (or more) in xvid, not divx3. So, even though they can now do divx3, they're still behind the times. Unless they can come out with a quick firmware flash that will let it do xvid also, I'm not planning on touching it.

I'm also curious as to how many types of subtitles it supports. If it's just a linux box running mplayer, that'll be fine. Especially if I can ssh into it and muck with the config files.

Bonus points if I can play divx/xvid from a self-burnt dvd (burnt as iso9660, not udf).

-gleam

oh my (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5623132)

oh my, somebody needs to find jesus

u r illegal

Re:Ok, I'll bite. (1)

caino59 (313096) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623023)

um

maybe so you can watch those divx rips on a tv instead of your computer.

and why buy something you can build?

for the simple reason of NOT having to build it.

Re:Ok, I'll bite. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5623059)

Someone needs to read the article. It says clearly that digital rights management is a part of the device. Won't do them much good to use Divx that way......

Re:Ok, I'll bite. (1)

g4dget (579145) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623120)

In short, yes. DVDs take up lots of space; being able to reduce that is good. Another reason is that DVDs go bad. And yet another is for people who live in multiple places.

However, I think a HD is less hassle than a bunch of DVDs, and almost as cheap.

Re:Ok, I'll bite. (5, Insightful)

jilles (20976) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623123)

In addition to the obvious convenience for e.g. Kazaa users, one could use this as a cheap alternative to creating dvd's from your homemovies. Just convert your homemovies to divx, burn them on a cheap cdr (as opposed to still very expensive dvdrs) and you have nice cheap good quality video that you can watch on your vcr.

Second idea: cd companies could burn a divx video on along with the sound on a multisession cd. Should play just fine in any cd player and owners of PCs/Macs/Whatever or this cool device get a little extra.

There's plenty of legal uses for this device. I want one even though I don't own a video camera :-).

Re:Ok, I'll bite. (1)

ecchi_0 (647240) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623211)

But what about VCDs? Playable in most DVD players already. Plus they support scene selection and such :)

Re:Ok, I'll bite. (1)

milkki (561500) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623190)

I use DivX when recording shows from TV (as a replacement to VCR). It's nice to now that I'll be able to watch those Seinfelds and Simpsons without a computer.

If they just would create one with DivX RECORDING in it... I wouldn't need a computer in living room at all. Props to KiSS.

Sale of DVD Burners (1, Insightful)

chrisseaton (573490) | more than 11 years ago | (#5622963)

"This could make the purchase of dvd burners slow down in my opinion."

Why? You need a burner to make the DivX DVD, don't you?

Re:Sale of DVD Burners (1)

igotmybfg (525391) | more than 11 years ago | (#5622984)

no. why encode the DVD onto DivX, and then burn it onto a DVD-rom? Good DVD rips that fit onto 700mb CDs look great... you almost can't tell the difference. The reason to have a DVD burner is so that you can copy DVDs, not burn DivX rips of DVD movies onto DVD-r.

Re:Sale of DVD Burners (4, Informative)

Spazholio (314843) | more than 11 years ago | (#5622986)

No, you need a DVD reader to make the DivX, not a DVD burner. DivX files don't have to be on a DVD, they can be on a CDR(W).

Re:Sale of DVD Burners (1)

McDrewbie (530348) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623182)

i think the point is, why buy a dvd burner to pirate dvd's when you can just burn the DivX version on a CD and use that in this player to watch them on the TV

Re:Sale of DVD Burners (1)

snack (71224) | more than 11 years ago | (#5622997)

No, Not true.

You can burn a full length movie onto about 700 megs at a decent quality. Making people able to burn their movies on to CD instead of DVD.

So yes, the sale of DVD burners would slow down if people got more useage out of their regular cd-burners.

-Tim

Ah, I see (1)

chrisseaton (573490) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623014)

So why not say "DVD quality DivX movies"?

Re:Ah, I see (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5623037)

Because that's what a DivX is...a near DVD quality movie in a relatively small size

Divx! (1)

methangel (191461) | more than 11 years ago | (#5622965)

Now I can play my downloaded movies the way they were meant to be seen!

Re:Divx! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5622993)

dude you can't, can't you read "digital rights management" all over this player?

cebit == european (2, Insightful)

igotmybfg (525391) | more than 11 years ago | (#5622967)

good thing that it's not coming out in US, too, or the company that produces it (KiSS Technologies) would be sued out of existence.

Re:cebit == european (0, Flamebait)

netsharc (195805) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623092)

Yeah, it being european, they're just going to bomb it out of existence, because "you're either with us, or we'll bomb you!!!"

Re:cebit == european (1)

BeyondALL (248414) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623124)

Well, you can be glad it's not coming to the us - because Kiss makes really crappy products anyway, I'm shure this one is no exception.
It's like buying a dvd player at McDonalds for $5,95 ;-)

Re:cebit == european (1)

uradu (10768) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623187)

> because Kiss makes really crappy products anyway

You must be thinking of that other Target brand, KOSS.

Hi slashbots! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5622975)

I have power tools, miller lite, and a warm poontang I'm sticking my pee-due in tonight.

Piss off American wankers (-1, Offtopic)

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Re:Piss off American wankers (-1, Flamebait)

Pres. Ronald Reagan (659566) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623041)

Outstanding.

Re:Piss off American wankers (-1)

Fecal Troll Matter (445929) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623062)

Hey Ronny! Gotcher nose!

Why not Xbox (3, Insightful)

sardonic2 (576701) | more than 11 years ago | (#5622978)

I have a nice little black box that sits on my desk next to me that does DivX playback, Ogg, MP3. You name it. DVD playback works also. I can run MAME on it, and play console games from tons of different consoles including Xbox. Not to mention the ability to run Linux, doubt that dvd player can do that.

Re:Why not Xbox (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5623010)

The only thing with XBOX is, you need a mod-chip and its not divx certified (i.e. the quality will not be as good as).

But on the other hand, Xbox is a lot cheaper than this player.

Re:Why not Xbox (1)

sardonic2 (576701) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623043)

Yeah, You do need a mod-chip but join http://www.operationprojectx.com/ [operationprojectx.com] , they are trying to get around that by finding the key for the xbox programs. I don't know if divx "certified" necessarily means the quality is better, I'm sure that certification requires some "special" terms that a OSS project like Xbox Media Player [xboxmediaplayer.de] . I do believe that certified probably means less "problems" but as the XBMP project matures I am sure the divx decoding and playback will be just as good, if it isn't already.

Re:Why not Xbox (1)

GregorianChant (655460) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623042)

Do you mind posting the details of this all-in-one wonder box?? I would love to read the specs and how you built it! I was working on a similar project a few months ago with an old laptop of mine that had S-Video out. I threw FreeBSD on it and was using it as a DVD/DiVx/MP3/OGG player but could never quite find enough information on a viable XBOX/PS2 emulation option.

Re:Why not Xbox (2, Interesting)

sardonic2 (576701) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623074)

Well, the box is a Xbox (retail $200). I modded it with an Xecuter 2 Pro [extreme-mods.com] mod chip. This gives me the ability to boot up unsigned code (homebrew software). I then use Xbox Media Player [xboxmediaplayer.de] to do all media playback (excluding dvd currently) but you can find a program out there called Dvd-X that gives you full DVD playback (or if you bought the special adapter from M$ you can use the defualt DVD player). I dropped a 120GB IBM drive in there, so I have storage for games I copy over and so on. I can play files over the network, and I can stream music from a shoutcast server off the internet. It's a pretty cool little thing.
Good (More) Info can be found at Xbox-scene [xbox-scene.com]

Re:Why not Xbox (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5623068)

I have a nice little black box that sits on my desk next to me...
Since when was an Xbox little? Would be better to get a mini-ITX motherboard, small harddrive, DVD-ROM, case and install Linux on the thing. Then you have something that is actually useful and worth paying for.

OH YEAH (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5622982)

Now I can watch all the pr0n I download on a nice bigscreen TV instead of my 19" monitor. Ron Jeremy, here I come!!!

User reviews (1)

Meat Blaster (578650) | more than 11 years ago | (#5622983)

I was just looking for a player that could handle DivX and happened across this page [dvdrhelp.com] of comments from users who already have one of these units. Sounds interesting, although hopefully the codec support can be upgraded by the user.

OGM support? (2, Interesting)

redhat421 (620779) | more than 11 years ago | (#5622989)

I wonder if it will support playback of "ogm" files? If not, what format should I be using that can handle vorbis VBR audio and subtitles?

Divx-CD Standard (0)

chrispl (189217) | more than 11 years ago | (#5622990)

Lets hope it is flexible on how the CD is burned/formatted so it will work with my existing collection of single CD Divx movies. It would be a major pain to have to re-burn them with a standalone compatible disk structure.

Region Codes (1)

aerojad (594561) | more than 11 years ago | (#5622995)

Ebay imports, anyone?

If you buy a DVD player from another continent, which I assume is another region, won't that screw up your chances of playing the DvDs you bought in this country? I thought there was some sort of protection against that, or does this player get around that as well?

Re:Region Codes (1)

igotmybfg (525391) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623018)

you can f**k around with some DVD players to disable the region-locking. Some come with it disabled. Presumably someone will figure out how to do that for this player.

Re:Region Codes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5623035)

Akaik, it is easy to unlock the region on these players.

Re:Region Codes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5623076)

:-)

I bought a Toshiba SDM 1712 DVD drive last week for EUR 45 after my old drive died on me.
The first thing I did after bringing the new baby home was to fire up Google and look for firmware so I could play half of my DVDs that are US region coded.

It seems it is the same drive used in the KISS player so much of the firmware I found was made
for KISS. I found my trusty PCDOS 3.30 floppy's
since you need DOS or Windows or something to burn new firmware into these things (no piracy here, I actually OWN an original set including manuals)

So no worries, if you get one of these KISS things you should be able to make the thing region free with a minimum of hazzle.

(I would buy one of these things myself but since I dont own a TV it would be kind of silly.)

BR Coward the Duke ;-)

Oh great. (2, Insightful)

I Am The Owl (531076) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623003)

Please, everyone swarm to try and convince me that DivX players will be used to play something other than pirated DVD and VCD recordings. How transparent.

Re:Oh great. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5623070)

Perhaps if you had a TIVO-like device which could save shows to DIVX and had a CD burner. Then you could use it like a VCR to offload TV shows when the hard drive fills up.

Re:Oh great. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5623121)

this will lead to downloadable (legal) movie rentals.

hopefully.

Re:Oh great. (3, Insightful)

James_Duncan8181 (588316) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623178)

Why would I need a DivX player to play a VCD? It is already on a CD and I can't improve the quality by converting it to DivX, it would just be wasting cycles and a CD-R.

Re:Oh great. (2, Insightful)

eXtro (258933) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623213)

98% of the use will be for illegal content. I'd like to be able to burn an hour or so of video from a digital camcorder. I use a DVD-R right now but to be honest DivX is good enough for most things.

The shortcoming of this is that while I can record stuff with DivX on a CD-R most people won't have a similar machine, because of this sharing is less possible.

Personally, I wouldn't use it for pirated movies, if I like it I either buy it or rent it through NetFlix.

Homepage and a little info (5, Informative)

madsdyd (228464) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623007)

Company homepage is here [kissnordic.dk] .

One of my collegaues have actually ordered one. It is based on an arm processor running uLinux & IIRC you can actually flash the firmware youself, and it is running some sort of mplayer. (AFAIK, the software is somewhere to be found on their homepage.

The FAQ is
here [kissnordic.dk] .

And, a homepage for kissdvd (the player?) - you need flash [kissdvd.com] . So, that will probably survive a looong time...

Mads Bondo Dydensborg

Who "certifies" this? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5623009)

Like, I thought DiVX was either (a) a dll ripped off from microsoft or (b) a group of open source coders tracking a moving target. Who 'certifies' that this works?

Damn pirate formats (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5623011)

I stopped downloading DivX movies a couple years ago when I got a DVD player capable of playing SVCDs. The first generation of DivX movies came on 1 CD, but the high quality ones are 2 CD, the same for most SVCD releases. Still, SVCD is good enough for me.

Nothing new here (0, Redundant)

SiliconEntity (448450) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623016)

I've had a DivX DVD player for years. I got it cheap from CompUSA after DivX went out of business.

Oh, thatDivX...

Never mind.

WHY ISN'T THERE A REPLY BUTTON AT -1? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5623022)

While browsing at -1, there's no reply button or links. WHAT TEH FUCK?

*Drool* (1)

OmniVector (569062) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623036)

*Hears the sound of a thousand geeks screaming with joy*

The question is, with dvd burners, can this bad boy play a DVD burned full of ogg/mp3s? Can it play DVD full of DivX movies? I can fit between 5-6 movies or more on a DVD.

Re:*Drool* (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5623137)

You will be better off buying an xbox.

This is not a troll, but if you really want to play different types of media on a small portable box, the xbox is what you need. It's not exactly "small" but you get the idea.. True that you will need a mod-chip, but in return you can play just about every format you could possibly have. Furthermore, the xbmp is an on-going project which means when new formats are out, it can be changed to play those new formats. I am sure this new player has upgradable firmware, but there is a limit to how far it can go.

Remember however, xbox does have a downside. It will NOT play most cdr's :( . Which means you will either have to upload the media to the HD, or burn it on to a dvd (so far I have had it working flawlessly with dvd-r, dvd+r and dvd-rw).

Finally, lets not forget, the xbox will let you play games too :)

Re:*Drool* (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5623180)

YES

Could someone... (1)

EpsCylonB (307640) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623038)

could someone buy me one ?, pretty please ?

Re:Could someone...Sneak attack. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5623102)

"They are supposed to be able to playback ALL versions of DivX content and digital rights management. I'm completely stoked on this, I would buy one of these in a snap. "

Now we have the answer to "how will DRM be implimented?".
So does that fact make both you and Timothy "sheep"?

BTW Has anyone noticed that some posts you can reply to, while others you can not?

Approach with caution (5, Informative)

egrinake (308662) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623045)

I don't know too much about this specific player, but I bought my first DVD player from KiSS about three years ago - a cheap player, around $200, which also played mp3s, vcd and svcd. And it is probably the worst DVD player I have ever used.

The DVD image and audio quality was very, very bad (jerky playback, unclear image, lots of jitter etc), and it wouldn't even play half of the VCDs I tried. It also had a very "plastic" feel to it, and I suspect it used a standard IDE DVD ROM with some very cheap chips for playback.

This new player may be good, but after my experiences with their earlier products I would approach this one with caution.

Re:Approach with caution (1)

freeweed (309734) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623171)

My Apex AD-5131 also has a standard IDE DVD-ROM drive, and a rather plastic feel to it. Yet, it plays damn near everything I throw at it (save DivX, natch :) flawlessly. Can't always judge a book by its cover.

What about Xvid? (0, Troll)

xagon7 (530399) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623050)

What would be REALLY nice is a net connected player that could update its firmware when a new or better codec is announced. O, wait, there already is such a thing, its called a PC. Silly me.

Xbox Media Player - Cheaper / More features... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5623052)

= better. Nuff' said.

DivX SVCD? (5, Interesting)

Viral Fly-by (662186) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623067)

Considering even the cheapest PoS DVD player that redneck billy bob bought at Wal-Mart will play both VCDs and SVCDs that are burned on plain ordinary CD-Rs using any run-of-the-mill burner found in your HP Desktop that redneck billy bob also bought at Wal-Mart, the real question is:

Why? Why need support to play DivX format in a DVD player?

Is the DivX format any better quality than SVCD? Using standard CD-Rs, you are going to use close to the same amount of discs to get the same amount of video at the same quality.

DivX may have better audio than SVCD...but nothing will ever provide the DD 5.1, DTS, and 6.1(7.1???) sound quality of real DVDs.

Re:DivX SVCD? (1)

demmer (623592) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623170)

no,sir!

divx looks far better than svcd, even 1 svcds compared to 1 cd divx. svcd is just low bitrate mpeg2, how could that look nearly as good as mpeg4?!

Re:DivX SVCD? (1)

SiliconJesus101 (622291) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623177)

Unfortunately, that is not entireley correct. DD 5.1 can definitely be encoded and used on DivX, Xvid and Ogg encoded movies. I have seen several of these formats that used the AC3 codec on them and did in fact contain all 5.1 channels of audio. As for DTS, well...I imagine you should be able to do that as well. While I have not seen a DTS encoded DivX et al....I have seen DTS encoded audio in "wav" format.

Re:DivX SVCD? (2, Informative)

freeweed (309734) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623189)

Recent DivX versions are getting closer to SVCD quality. Sadly, not quite there yet. As for why?

Hmm.. 1 cd for almost any decent DivX rip. 2, 3, and even 4 cds for even the shortest movie encoded using SVCD. Not only do you save on cds (and the associated storage space), but you don't have to change discs midway into a movie (several times in some cases). Sucks if you don't have a changer, I'd imagine.

Oh, and as for every DVD player playing VCD/SVCD.. those claims are way overstated. AFAIK no Toshiba player handles SVCD. Many Panasonic models can't handle it either. I won't even go into the low end stuff like Samsung...

KiSS sounds familiar.. (1)

Czernobog (588687) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623077)

Scan [scan.co.uk] have had loads of offers of KiSS players in the recent past, here in the UK.
I can't quite remember if they were KiSS players per se or Scan ones, manufactured by KiSS.
Either way, I bet that these new players will be available there soon...

Theora (1)

David_Bloom (578245) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623085)

With all these Divx players coming out, I hope that there will still be a market for OGG/Theora (which, if you aren't already in the loop, is essentially VP3 [vp3.com] video plus Vorbis audio in a new file format that is MUCH more flexible than AVI) when it's released.

Just use an Xbox (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5623094)

Xbox $200
Modchip $40

For $240 you have yourself a little box that will play anything with Xbox Media Player. The biggest advantage of this is all you need to do is plug it into your router, and stream media off your computer. Cheap and effective.

DP-500 has 10/100 Ethernet (4, Insightful)

-tji (139690) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623122)


I don't know about divx.. the thing that is very interesting to me is the network port. So, I can theoretically access my Linux file server, which has my MiniDV movies, exported to DVD VOB format. Also, as part of my creation process, I can watch them over the network, rather than burning DVD's as tests. And, once I'm done, I can have an easily accessed home movie archive via the network server.

It could also access my MP3 library on that Linux file server.. Could be a nice, small, quiet media server to replace most of my HTPC (Home Theater PC) functionality (everything except the HDTV receiver/recorder).

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Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5623134)

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Buy one (1)

bob_dinosaur (544930) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623135)

from scan [scan.co.uk] in the UK if you fancy it. £257 equals about USD $400 + shipping.

So, not cheap, but if the guy's gotta have it...

Tomorrow? (1)

manseman (582150) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623146)

They are supposed to be able to playback ALL versions of DivX content and digital rights management.

Shouldn't that read all current versions???

Re:Tomorrow? (1)

Maxarlatan (627141) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623169)

Plays 3.x up to 5.03.

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You can already buy them (1)

Wirr (157970) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623148)

in the shops here in Germany. For 299 Euros in the MediaMarkt [mediamarkt.de] for example.

Definitely NOT the first. I've had one for months (3, Informative)

Maxarlatan (627141) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623154)

FWIW, they are absolutely not the first to produce these. Several companies has been OEM'ing these in China using the same Sigma 8500 decoder for months. Some answers to questions: 1. It it firmware upgradeable? Yes. 2. Region Codes? These units are 'all code' out of the box. Is this illegal? 'Kindof' 3. Can it play a DVD full of mp3's. divx movies etc? Yes. 4. Why this and not some crap from Walmart? Well, this is progressive scan, for one thing. (In built in the Sigma) 5. Can I send you one? No :)

Links, please (2, Informative)

forged (206127) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623156)

KiSS Technology [kiss-technology.com] DP-450 [kiss-technology.com] and DP-500 [kiss-technology.com] . There are even efforts underway [rpc1.org] to dezone the 450 and 500.

Trying to buy one (1)

Ella the Cat (133841) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623160)

I've had one on order for almost two weeks and the delivery date is slipping a day per day. Has anyone here actually got one?

DivX player? Bah (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#5623161)

I really dislike that these things are called "DivX" players when they should rather be called mpeg-4 players. As far as I'm concerned, DivXNetworks is still trying to appropriate all the goodwill/badwill generated from the old divx 3.11 codec through a weak trademark. 50 million downloads of DivX a month they claim. Alright, how many of that is Xvid and 3.11? Most of them.

PS2 Alternative (1)

dopaz (148229) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623197)

If you already own a PS2 and a network adaptor, you can play media files on your TV with Q-Cast Tuner [broadq.com] . However, this does require you to have your PS2 on the LAN with your PC. The files are streamed off of your computer to the PS2 which then decodes them and plays them on your TV.

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hmm? slow down burner sales? (3, Informative)

EddydaSquige (552178) | more than 11 years ago | (#5623204)

This could make the purchase of dvd burners slow down in my opinion.

Really? I can't say that I've seen too many people wanting a DVD burner to pirate DVD's. The things are so cheap (the DVD's, not the burners) that when you take into account the time it takes to rip the thing, well it's like that wise old saying, 'Linux is cheap if your time is worth nothing'.

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